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America's Biggest Lie - Dictatorship Or Democracy?
Authored by Eric Zuesse,
The Deceit About Being A 'Republic' Versus A 'Democracy'
One of my recent articles at several sites, "Jimmy Carter Is Correct That the U.S. Is No Longer a Democracy” generated many reader-comments (such as here) saying things like, "The US has always been a republic. There are no true democracies in the modern world.” This will be my response to all who expressed that view:
You miss the point that Carter made, and that I there documented to be true, which is no semantic issue (“democracy” versus “republic”), but which instead concerns the basic lie about what the United States of America really is now:
Is this a representative democracy, such as its Founders intended and such as it was famous and honored throughout the world for being, until at least around 1980?
Or, is it instead a nation that’s ruled by a tiny elite, an aristocracy, which in this country consists of its 500 or so billionaires, who buy the politicians whom ‘we’ ‘elect’?
Is the U.S. now, basically, a fraud? Is it a dictatorship, instead of a democracy? Is it some kind of aristocracy, which controls the government here?
That’s not a semantic issue, at all. America’s first political party was called the “Democratic Republican Party,” but could as well have been called the Democratic Party or the Republican Party, because those two terms are essentially synonymous in any nation that has a large population, in which the public elect representatives to represent them, instead of directly vote on the policies that the government is to pursue — to place into its law, and to enforce by its duly authorized police or otherwise, and to adjudicate by democratically appointed judges and/or juries.
The only democracies that can exist, except for tiny ones, are representative democracies: they are republics. Republics are the only type of democratic nations that exist, practically speaking.
Where, then, does the apparently common misconception that there is a difference between the two terms arise?
I shall here present a theory about that: This widespread misconception arises because the rulers in a dictatorship — i.e., in an elite-controlled or “aristocratic” government, as opposed to in a government that authentically does represent the public — can thereby fool many people into misconceiving what the real issue, the real problem, there is.
The real issue is whether the country is controlled by its aristocracy (a dictatorship), or instead by its public (its residents).
Let’s be frank and honest: an aristocratically controlled government is a dictatorship, regardless of whether that “aristocracy” is in fascist Italy, or in Nazi Germany, or in Communist USSR, or in North Korea, or in the United States of America.
That’s what Jimmy Carter was talking about, and it's what I was documenting to be true.
To varying and rather extraordinary degrees throughout earlier U.S. history, this nation really was a democracy; that is to say, a republic. But we’re not actually like that any more (as I documented there).
If this problem is not faced — and honestly, not by means of semantic games and misdirections — then surely there will be not even a possibility to restore the democracy, the republic, the democratic republic, or whatever one prefers to call it, which our Founders had intended, and which lasted for around two centuries on these shores, and was widely admired and even (by some) envied throughout the world.
The aristocracy and its many fools might not want this enormous problem to be addressed, but Jimmy Carter clearly does. And so do I.
One of the ways to misdirect about this problem is to obsess about “good residents” (“citizens”) versus “bad residents” (“aliens”), because that nationalistic way of viewing things enables the aristocracy to split the public against itself and thereby to maintain its own grip on power against, actually, that entire public. Nazi Germany did this.
Another way they misdirect it is to buy control over all of the political parties that stand a chance of dominating the government, and so to create basically a ‘democratic’ or ‘republican’ controlled government which, in any case, is actually controlled by that aristocracy, even if, perhaps, by a different faction within it. Even if a different faction within the aristocracy takes control, it’s still the same dictatorship. Because the public is not in control.
There are many ways to deceive the public. There are many ways to rule the public. But all of them are aristocratic; all of them are elite — and typically monied-elite — dictatorships.
In a democracy (or republic) the government does not rule, the government represents. It represents honestly, because it doesn’t need to do so by misdirection, by deceits.
In an aristocracy (or dictatorship) the government does not represent — at least not honestly — because they don’t want the people to see how their sausages are made
Will a violent revolution be required to overthrow it? If so, then won’t the likelihood be high that it will merely replace one group who rule by force, by a different group who rule by force? For example: isn’t that what happened in the Russian Revolution and its aftermath?
Jimmy Carter challenged America to restore democracy. And he was right to do so. But can it be done? And, if so, then how?
It’s the great issue in 2016. Because if it’s not dealt with then, the dictatorship, the aristocracy that controls it, will become so deeply lodged that it won’t be able to be dislodged without great violence. And the outcome of that would not solve the problem, at all. It would be hell. But avoiding that hell by means of accepting continuance of aristocratic control would also be hell, because aristocracy would then become even more deeply entrenched.
America needs to deal with it, not postpone solving it.
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Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of They’re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010,and of CHRIST’S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity.
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IT'S A CONSTITUTIONALLY LIMITED REPUBLIC STUPID!
Amerika, land of the fleeced.
Home of the slave.
Serfs up.
I'm glad we're waiting until 016, that gives us 5 months to completely forget about it.
Eric, you forgot the sarcasim hash.
Unfortunately, they are ignoring the constitution.
It's more like "interpreted out of existence".
'It's just a piece of paper'
That's been broken.
Written by brave, thoughtful, men. Pissed upon by lesser opportunists.
It's SUPPOSED to be a Constitutional Republic, but it's not. It's neither a democracy nor a republic.
This might be tiresome but it's still worth quoting:
"Give me control of a nation's money supply and I care not who writes the laws" -- Amchel Rothschild
Who control America's money supply?
except it's more like the Roman Empire under Caligula
Who run bartertown?
Was.
Until their is restored a judiciary that reads, follows, and enforces the US Constitution, it was
It's ANARCHY. WE DON"T HAVE A GOVERNMENT, IT"S A CRIMINAL GROUP NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE, NO DIFFERENT THAN GREECE. TOTAL ANARCHY.
Eric Stick to novels you are no good at nonfiction
"IT'S A CONSTITUTIONALLY LIMITED REPUBLIC STUPID!"
It's obvious you didn't read the article.
No matter what it is called, his correct point is that it no longer represents YOUR wishes. Actually, it hasn't for a very long time, but has recently gotten worse, so some begin to notice who didn't notice before. Thus, all of this political discussion here about the major party empty suit candidates is pointless, just keeping the dweebs within their illusion that they actually have control on the most important issues. They don't.
It's going to go full retard soon. Prep now while you can.
The faster it collapses the quicker we can bring back a constitutional republic. Our governments has already gone full retard.
I awoke this morning got on my laptop...salon.com for a good laugh, briebart, huffiinton.....saving ZH for last of course.
Watched cnbc...got in my car to go get wine and cigs. Came home, watched Carly destroy the 5pm group waiting for Donald. Posted some booshiet facebook posts...all along didnt see any dictator...
Aristocracy is too good a word for the group. Financial Sociopaths is more descriptive and accurate. No empathy and no conscience.
kleptocracy
The US was NEVER a democracy, it has always been a republic. Aristotle said democracy is the perversion of polity, it is the tyranny of the majority over the minority, and as such is a wrong form of government. Aristotle also defined rule by the aristocracy, for their own interests, as oligarchy another perversion of right government. Aristotle also said that a republic, the blending of other right forms is the best form.
Read Nicomachean Ethics to understand what right government is, and what wrong government is.
The US hasn't been a republic at least since Lincoln.
All you need to do is research "who owns and controls the federal reserve" and you will realize we have a slowly implemented jewish communist takeover here.
I don't think the word "democracy" was ever mentioned by the Founding Fathers; I believe that is a jewish creation. 4CHAN has it right.
Ben and George had it right, too.
(This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin,was made in a "CHIT CHAT AROUND THE TABLE DURING INTERMISSION,"at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention of 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.)
"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.
"In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
"For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
"If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
"If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for alltime, your children will curse you in your graves.
"Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1787, at The Constitutional Convention, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
"One of the ways to misdirect about this problem is to obsess about “good residents” (“citizens”) versus “bad residents” (“aliens”), because that nationalistic way of viewing things enables the aristocracy to split the public against itself and thereby to maintain its own grip on power against, actually, that entire public. Nazi Germany did this."
Actually nationalism is the only thing that can save us. Those who are acting against the country and those who live in it must be addressed.
I seem to remember from history that the German people were never more united than under the national socialists. Even today the Germans have to exempt Hitler from any polls regarding Germanys most famous person. Sometimes they forget to exempt him and the results are always embarrassing.
I don't think nationalism can save the US. There is no ethnic or cultural bond anymore, and "America" culture is as phony as Americans themselves.
The real question is "is there any white nation on the planet that can resist the zionist vampires and their genocidal multiculturalism". At this point this seems very doubtful.
No record of such a declaration by Franklin exists before its appearance in the pages of William Dudley Pelley's Silver Legion pro-Nazi weekly magazine Liberation in 1934.
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, the supposed transcriber, wrote that he had kept a journal of the Convention, but it has never been found; no evidence exists for Pelley's claim that it was printed privately. The Franklin Institute has rejected his claims that it owns a manuscript copy of the prophecy.
Despite having been repeatedly discredited since its first appearance, the "prophecy" has proved a remarkably durable antisemitic canard. It has appeared most recently as a popular internet hoax promulgated on Usenet groups and antisemitic websites, where it is presented as authentic. On February 18, 1998, a member of the Fatah Central Committee revived this myth and mistakenly referred to Franklin as a former President of the United States. Osama Bin Laden used this canard briefly in his October 2002 "Letter to the American People". While its author is not known, many who have investigated the "prophecy" suspect Pelley of having penned it himself.
The U.S. Congress report Anti-Semitism in Europe: Hearing Before the Subcommittee on European Affairs of the Committee on Foreign Relations (2004) states:
The Franklin "Prophecy" is a classic anti-Semitic canard that falsely claims that American statesman Benjamin Franklin made anti-Jewish statements during the Constitutional Convention of 1787. It has found widening acceptance in Muslim and Arab media, where it has been used to criticize Israel and Jews...
Franklin was a friend to the Jews of 18th-century America, and contributed toward the building of Philadelphia's first permanent synagogue.
Similar antisemitic quotations have been attributed to George Washington and have been disproven. In 1790, in a marked sign of religious tolerance, Washington sent a letter to the Jewish community in Rhode Island, writing "May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants; while every one shall sit under his own vine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him afraid."
Use of 19th- and 20th-century antisemitic terminology (an anachronism) shows that the supposed "Franklin Prophecy" is a forgery, as Benjamin Franklin died in 1790.
I'm reading the Creture from Jekyll Island Island for the 3rd time, it's great becuse it makes me realize why things are the way they are.
The US is not a democracy; it has never been a democracy; it was not even founded as a democracy (it was supposed to be a constitutional republic, but even that has been a questionable claim).
The best euphemism right now would be "the biggest banana republic on earth", as opposed to the more accurate and fitting characterization of " a mixture of Plutocracy, Oligarchy, and Corporate Fascism ".
A Banana Republic With No Bananas
Not true GW. One only has to look at CNBS...
Must we repeat this again? The Republic, for which the flag supposedly stands, ended on or about 1861. Sheesh, some people just recognizing this now?
We cannot recall federal politicians.
So you're a human being and you are labeled as a cow. So you accept and now you are a cow. I am still holding on to this being a REPUBLIC whether it has been treated that way, whether it is pc, whether it has been forgotten, ignored or whatever.
It's a REPUBLIC and there I stand. Join me and stand for the Republic. Fuck all the other assholes who seek to destroy. Expand the narative and keep your chin up. United we stand and divided we fall.
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(Tight group)
All "democracies" or "republics", whichever name you prefer, eventually become what we have now, which is basically participatory fascism. The simple reason is that in any group of significant size there are always more stupid people than smart people. As the franchise is expanded, more less intelligent people get to vote, and they inevitably vote for the best liars and the sociopaths who are not ashamed to promise what they can't deliver and appeal to envy and the base instincts of the herd.
The only free society is a private law society (aka anarcho-capitalism) where there is no "public" sector that gets to make up the rules as they go along and force everyone else to pay for their schemes.
Baring this, the second best option would be a large number of small monarchies or true aristocracies where the entire land area (maybe up to the size of a small state like Rhode Island or Delaware) is owned by one family or group of investors and they make the rules, if you want to live there you agree to follow them, but there is always the option of moving a short distance away to another completely independent jurisdiction. This way at least competition for the most productive and able citizens would encourage the rulers to allow their subjects a greater degree of freedom.
As long as we have massive states where it is economically impossible for the average person to move to another completely independent jurisdiction we will have the cycle of growing tyranny, social and economic collapse, revolution, and either an attempt at creating a "limited" government that will eventually fail and cause the cycle to repeat or a bloody dictatorship that will either destroy itself in war or regress economically until it is conquered by another state.
A long-term dictatorship or tyranny without a significant free market sector within the economy is incompatible with modern, industrial or post-industrial civilization. China figured this out and had to incorporate some freedom into their economic system. These types of "mixed economies" are unstable and unless people wise up and give up on the delusion that they need "rulers" to take care of them will always tend toward tyranny and collapse, as above.
The ultimate decision for the human race is between a free society and extinction. Rule by force is incompatible with progress beyond the current level of social development, and if we continue with the current system long enough one of the psychos that claim to the right to rule will decide that they would rather nuke the world than give up their power.
www.usdebtclock.org
Investigative historian may want to understand that the Bolsheviks were funded by Wall Street (Rothschild), so it was a carefully staged-managed revolution if that and his question does not have validity if you understand what the power structure was up to. Read: Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Anthony Sutton.
AMERICA IS NOW THE NEW USSR ( RATHER USSA )
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I'm back in the USSA
You don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the USSA
Been away so long I hardly knew the place
Gee, it's good to be back home
Leave it till tomorrow to unpack my case
Honey, disconnect the phone
I'm back in the USSA
You don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the US, back in the US
Back in the USSA
Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the West behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on m-m-my mind
Oh, come on
I'm back in the USSA
You don't know how lucky you are, boys
Back in the USSA
Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the West behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on m-m-my mind
Oh, show me round the snow-peaked mountains way down south
Take me to you daddy's farm
Let me hear you balalaikas ringing out
Come and keep your comrade warm
I'm back in the USSA
Hey, you don't know how lucky you are, boys
Back in the USSA
Oh, let me tell you honey
SONGWRITERS
LENNON, JOHN WINSTON / MCCARTNEY, PAUL JAMES
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it is the money system that
has infested the hearts, that
is what is doomed.
It's the money, stupid!. ;)>
...and all that talk might have meant a lot more if it hadn't come from Carter, a Georgia peanut farmer who made large money from Big Govt. subsidies, and a rigged market.
PS I was going to send the article to every member of congress, but decided "fuck It", they don't even read the fucking Legislation they vote on...
There is no doubt that like all human beings Jimmy Carter is not perfect, and was President only because he served the purposes of TPTB at the time. That being the case however, whatever shortcomings Carter may have had as President, he looks really good compared to some of the assholes who have held the office since he was replaced by Reagan in 1980.
"an aristocratically controlled government is a dictatorship, regardless of whether that “aristocracy” is in fascist Italy, or in Nazi Germany, or in Communist USSR, or in North Korea, or" Russia under putin regime.
The murder of Boris Nemtsov, even more than previous assassinations of journalists and other figures deemed unhelpful to Vladimir Putin’s regime, feels like a moment of grim significance. It represents a watershed, dividing Putin’s past from his future.
It is true, for sure, that Putin has rarely bothered to conceal his darker side. True, too, that too many people are prone to forgetting his actions – or rather the actions of people close to and supportive of Putin – in the Moscow apartment bombings which eased his path to power. Nevertheless, for a long time now, many people have preferred to turn away from the reality of Putin’s Russia.
Reality is a heavy puncher, however, and after the Crimea and the Ukraine comes this. The assassination of a prominent opposition figure just yards from the Kremlin’s front door. It is the action of a regime that feels it need no longer pretend.
Of course, Putin remains popular. Revanchist populism and nationalist assertion never lacks a constituency. Doubtless he would not need to cheat to win an election (even so, more than a third of Russians voted for opposition candidates last time Putin braved the electorate) but, of course, he would cheat, just to make sure.
Which, again, is why this feels like a pivotal moment. In its suppression of opposition, in its thuggish aggression, in its capricious and rigged “justice”, Russia is crossing the line that differentiates between democratic authoritarianism and outright dictatorship. Indeed, Putin crossed that line some time ago.
The difference is that now no-one can honestly claim they didn’t know. The Kremlin payroll maintains its army of paid-for trolls, typing out hysterical pro-Putin propaganda online and doubtless in print there are still some ready to make whatever excuses are necessary but, still, the rest of us can see clearly.
Does anyone really think anyone else would be permitted to win an election in Russia were one held? Of course not.
Nor is Russia being isolated or threatened by the west. On the contrary, Russia is isolating itself. Even international politics is supposed to be governed by a set of rules. These are not, it must be said, the world’s most tightly-defined set of rules. Members of the club are permitted significant – perhaps too much – leeway. Time and time again Putin has overstepped the line.
There may be a dark irony in the fact that the greater Russia’s isolation the more probable it is his regime will continue to flaunt its disregard for international opinion. What else does Putin have to lose? If the price of his bravado is Russia’s immiseration then so be it.
And yet, even now, Putin makes a show, just for decency’s sake. There were the condolences he sent to Boris Nemtsov’s mother and the opposition’s rally was allowed to take place yesterday, unmolested. But these are just the outward appearances of normality, the occasional flickering of a civil order that’s designed to mask the reality of life in Russia. A Russia that, by design, all belongs to Putin and his allies.
Yet all this also disguises the weakness of Putin’s position. The conflict in the Ukraine rumbles on but it has become a small war in which Putin may achieve short-term and localised success only at the expense of a much more devastating and permanent defeat. Kiev will no longer look to Moscow and since keeping the Ukraine within the Russian, as opposed to the european, sphere of influence has been Putin’s objective it is not unreasonable to conclude he is losing the battle all along its wider, strategic, front.
And because, sensibly, no-one in the west has any desire to make matters on the ground in eastern Ukraine any worse, Russia must be reprimanded – and made to pay – in other ways. This is necessary even if it also has some unfortunate consequences. Because it is precisely the weakness of Russia’s international position that then requires a domestic crackdown and an increasingly hysterical, wagons-circling, approach to domestic politics, all the better to mask the regime’s blunders and weakness. The one compensates for the other.
Which is why, in the end, it doesn’t much matter if there’s a trail connecting Putin to Nemtsov’s assassination. The Russian president may well not have given the order but that is because, in large part, he didn’t need to.
There’s an old Russian joke which says it all. A man is arrested for distributing leaflets in Red Square. At the police station it is discovered all the leaflets are blank. ‘Why is this?’, the authorities ask. And the man replies: Everyone knows what is going on, so why bother to write it down?
Sorry, as a matter of principle. I don't like ad hominen, but you really are pathetic.
You are a pathetic shit or brains RETARD.
Give it up, you goddam Nazi asswipe.
Obviously Ukrainians don't agree with you:
"84% Ukrainians trust Putin more than Poroshenko"
Your "source" for such "opinion" is a web poll where anyone can create whatever result wanted by deleting a cookie and refresh. Or simply using a script can add 10000 or whatever votes needed. That is not a poll or survey - that is a scam. No one takes seriously such idiotic "poll" where result can be easily manipulated as needed - except putin regime trolls who created such "poll" to spam it worldwide.
VS
Opinion of Russia Largely UnfavorableUkraine 72% - Unfavorable to Russia; 21% - Favorable
*Rest had no opinion - if you as putin troll can understand that.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2015/08/05/russia-putin-held-in-low-regard-arou...What exactly you didn't understand?
That is frauded web poll where anyone could get any result he/she wanted by deleting cookie and adding another vote - but usin a script you can add 10 000 votes in no time.
Kapish?!
Troll as much as you want... that won't change reality :)
Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!
https://youtu.be/d_sTAhZv_rI
It's not frauded(?) as you claim. Provide evidence.
It all depends on the question that's asked.
'Polls' are a turnkey process.
I could ask you the same - prove that this poll is not a fraud! Especially knowing this site is anti Ukraine government. They could even add votes as much as they like – and no one would be able to check is it valid. That is why it’s complete BS. putin regime attacks and kills it’s citizens, people hate him and it’s reflected in surveys done by international agencies – than this anti Ukraine government web site comes around with it’s web poll in which they can make any result they want – and it’s completely different from reality from the ground. If there is really such idiot who believes such BS – than be it.
I understand that that is your audience.
My previous point was that "any poll" can produce whatever result you want.
this moron again? I really hope that someone will bother to read your diareah, and I hope you get payed or this. If not go to your bathroom mirror and repeat: I am a worthless piece of shit...
Dear "newsoutlet"
Hat Tip: whenever you copy/paste and quote another person's writings, it's courtesy to surround it with " " and to credit the author with having written what you are copying/pasting. Even better if you post a URL to the original instead of pasting yards of stuff.
...just saying :-)
Pure ukrainian stupidity in your post. Thank you, lil' monkey.
Have you ever been to Russia? Have you talked to Russians?
I have. I've even been within a couple hundred yards of Putin himself. Most Russians like Putin because he seems to represent Russia first, not foreigners, the UN, or any other non-Russian goal or organization. They (western Russians) hate the corruption that is common in any country with a lot of asian influence. Everyone I talked too did not recall "soviet times" in fond memories. They prefer freedom over tyranny. They are happier now than they used to be.
In the US people prefer security over freedom. They are less happy now than they used to be.
Here is one interesting (to me) observation. In walking around in Russia I saw many police. I did not see any police with firearms (IDK if they were armed but if they were the weapons were small and concealed) nor were they wearing body armor and paramilitary garb. There were a couple places where military men were guarding some installation or other such thing and they were very obviously armed. The latter did not patrol the streets as police but stood guard at a static location.
Back in the US, every policeman is armed and armored.
Based on the simple observations, who do you think has the police state (dictatorship)?
Have you ever been to Russia? Have you talked to Russians?
I have been in Moscow (that is an "island" in poor poor Russia), US (from coast to coast), Poland, Baltic states, Scandinavia, Germany, UK, Switzerland.. But, yes - I have talked to russians.
Most Russians like Putin because he seems to represent Russia first, not foreigners, the UN, or any other non-Russian goal or organization.
Seems is correct word, because he is not putting Russians and Russia in first place, because he:
Is that in interest of russians? I don't think so.
Working for that potato a little early today aren't you?
Let's see.. no argumentation - check! using same terminology for lousy "attack" as other putin regime trolls..check! mkey... I think you are good to go...to putin paid troll list. Thanks!
Fuck off you Latvian douche. I'm an American who is watching his own country go down the tubes. I don't have time, nor the inclination, to argue your anti Putin and anti Russia diatribes.
We get it, you hate the Russians. Give it a rest.
re USSA - Dictatorship or Democracy?
Post on bathroom mirror and recite daily - until it sinks in:
"[T]he quaint old forms—elections, parliaments, Supreme Courts(, Congress) and all the rest will remain. The underlying substance will be a new kind of totalitarianism. All the traditional names, all the hallowed slogans will remain exactly what they were in the good old days.
DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM will be the theme of every broadcast and editorial . . . Meanwhile the ruling oligarchy and its highly trained elite of soldiers, policemen, thought-manufacturers and mind-manipulators will quietly run the show as they see fit."
- ALDOUS HUXLEY
"Is this a representative democracy, such as its Founders intended and such as it was famous and honored throughout the world for being, until at least around 1980?"
This article from Mr Zeusse is nonsense.
Mr Zeusse: There is a difference between a Republic -vs- a Democracy. He simply doesn't understand it.
In a Republic, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, it's owned by The People and can only be altered by The People.
A Constitution is the law that governs government.
Without it, you have democratic fascism or despotism and the inalienable rights of citizens get trampled on (see Britain as an example, which is neither a republic nor a proper democracy).
With a proper Constitution, everything that happens, happens under its auspices, including the election of a limited-scope democratic government to manage day-to-day affairs of the nation.
What the US has drifted towards with sleight of hand, political cunning, fat wadges of corporate $$$, over successive generations is the democracy displacing the Constitution as the supreme law of the land. That is why we see growing numbers of blatant violations of the Constitution by the likes of GW Bush and now Obola. The Constitution is being trampled on and pushed aside by political elites who don't want to be limited in the powers they exercise.
The difference between the two is exactly why the American Constitution provides for citizens to bear arms, in the expectation that at some time it would be necessary to eject the democratic government for criminal abuse of power etc, in the knowledge that democratic governments always end up as despotic fascists. The founding fathers guessed right, absolutely.
The USA supreme Court overthrew any vestige of govt of the people when a couple of years ago they said it as okay for corporations to pay off Congressman
IN any other democracy its highly illegal to bribe elected officials.
You've all probably heard this before:
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner".
In just one important problem we face today in the economy, it is two recipents of government redistribution of wealth voting for more stuff taken (by threat of force) from the one other guy who works his buttocks off actually producing something.
You've also probably heard before:
"Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money".
I'd like to combine the two ideas:
"Democracy is great until you run out of other peoples money".
The United States of America is a pure police state Dictatorship. All elections are rigged by the rich and have predetermined outcomes. All the talk is meaningless about what candidate from which political front group will save the country is all illusion. Any candidate that dares point this out will be destroyed by the NSA and organs of political repression (e.g., the FBI, CIA, so-called Justice Department, etc.). The American People rising up to throw off the shackles of the dictatorial police state is the only force than can save the United States of America. That is because the job of the POSEDs* and POSERs** is to destroy the USA!
*POSEDs—Piece Of S*** Elitist Democrats
**POSERs—Piece Of S*** Elitist Republicans
Biggest Lie?
I would suggest that answer lies within understanding spherical trigonometery ..
Let's put it in this perspective:
"Some people claim there is no motive for such a grand-scale deception and that flat or a ball makes no difference. By removing Earth from the motionless center of the Universe, [we have been moved via TPTB] physically and metaphysically from a place of supreme importance to one of complete nihilistic indifference. If the Earth is the center of the Universe, then the ideas of God, creation, and a purpose for human existence are resplendent. But if the Earth is just one of billions of planets revolving around billions of stars in billions of galaxies, then the ideas of God, creation, and a specific purpose for Earth and human existence become highly implausible. By surreptitiously indoctrinating us into their scientific materialist Sun-worship, not only do we lose faith in anything beyond the material, we gain absolute faith in materiality, superficiality, status, selfishness, hedonism and consumerism. If there is no God, and everyone is just an accident, then all that really matters is me, me, me. They have turned Madonna, the Mother of God, into a material girl living in a material world. Their rich, powerful corporations with slick Sun-cult logos sell us idols to worship, slowly taking over the world while we tacitly believe their “science,” vote for their politicians, buy their products, listen to their music, and watch their movies, sacrificing our souls at the altar of materialism. To quote Morris Kline, “The heliocentric theory, by putting the sun at the center of the universe ... made man appear to be just one of a possible host of wanderers drifting through a cold sky. It seemed less likely that he was born to live gloriously and to attain paradise upon his death. Less likely, too, was it that he was the object of God’s ministrations.”
Nice work JC, I was confused, but it is obvious to me now, Man needs a new delusion, science has destroyed the old delusion, which underpinned our reverie about our place in the Heavens and our relationship with the Creator, we are no longer the center of the Universe, that is true, and now we know we never were, we just thought we were, on this plane, what we believe is of paramont inportance, belief is what opens the Gate of Heaven, right? We are having a difficult time now as nothing seems 'Believeable', but fear not, the next delusion is just around the corner and soon things will be 'OK' again and God will find us, at least for a while!
No news there. America is beyond salvation since there is no way it can lose a world war without destruction of the entire planet.
Best case, best case, America is rendered irrelevant in the world in the longer term, like so many former empires.
Americans are ruled by the threat or implementation of government force and violence.
The “elite” aka “Just Us” do not necessarily “rule” on a day-to-day basis but they do benefit from inside information, beneficial legislation, selective investigation, selective prosecution, corporate welfare and the transfer of risks and losses to the public (crony capitalism), etc...
Overall, the nation as a whole is ruled by stupidity, intellectual cowardice and ignorance.
Good points SMC, unfortunately it looks like self destruction is baked in the genes, the fruit of all human 'Progress' is the ability to destroy the Humans and their progress, was there a Noble purpose to it all? Nothing that my limited intellect can discern!
WRONG! The correct answer is IDIOCRACY.
Studies show the opinion of voters do not matter to the US puppet politico body. Call that what you want.
Princeton Study Confirms 'US Is An Oligarchy'
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-17/princeton-study-confirms-us-oli...
Anyone's misconceptions about the represenative nature of the US today ought to have been laid to test in 2008.
It is controlled by a tiny minority...even of billionaires...and primarily by bankers and foreign hereditary aristocrats.
But the citation of immigration as nothing more than a diversion could not be more off point. Immigration is the oligarchs tool to transform the US into post apartheid South Africa.
A representative democracy is subject to self-serving, lying and corrupt politians. This form of democracy was applicable 200 years ago but is no longer effecective. A Direct Democracy is a pure democracy as all decisions and laws are passed based on a referendum/vote held by the people. Switzerland has had a Direct Democracy for over 150 years and is recognized as the most democratic country in the world. Until such time as the US embraces political reform, it will be more of the same, just like a turd slowly spinning down the abyss of the toilet bowl.
Whatever its merits, Direct Democracy cannot replace the need for a strong Constitution.
It can only replace the current representative democracy systems that purport to operate in many countries but fail for the reasons you state, mostly corruption.
Dig a little deeper it is arisocracy versus serf always has been.
Then we seem to have a torrent of ism's, capitalism, socialism, communism, nationalism. All these ism's are bullshit propoganda by those in power to persuade you to follow them or dissuade you from straying from their way means simply "feed them for free". A little hint, all those ism's have formed in the last couple of centuries as mechanisation begins and the economic strife that goes with losing work hours to machines.
Now look at the structure of the economy in any nation or even globally. It does not add up. If you want to think you live in a capitalist society in the west think again with all your EBT cards! Handouts to those with very little is socialism. Now look at China, commy? fuck off it is the same crossbreed capitalism at the top the biggest parasites feeding off the socialist population.
Socialist actions are being used by "aristocracy" the capitalists to pacify the population "socialist sheep". This pacification by the aristocrats is let me keep capitalism to myself whilst all the others have to live a socialist way.
Now start writing down the names ... then tick the box against each name aristocrat or serf! GS, JPM, ROTHCHILD,me.
The odd one out is me I am a serf the rest are aristocrats. Do the same and realise your own category :-)
GONE SERF-IN!!!!
Dumb down, fatten, coddle, distract, entertain the society and they will take whatever is offered.
Since when was America ever a democracy? When genocidal wars against Indians were waged to take their lands? When the constitution said that blacks count as less than human for determining number of electoral seats per state? When the electoral college system was created and a candidate with 51% of the votes got 100% of the seats in a state? When blacks and women could not vote? When laws were enacted to ensure partisan figures operated elections on a county-by-county basis? When laws were enacted that effectively made it impossible to create a third political party that had fair access to being included on ballots? When Nixon scuttled the peace talks to defeat Humphrey? When the US overthrew a democratically elected government in (choose which country you want to put here - I was thinking of Chile)? When the US Supreme Court held that only direct, provable, quid pro quo bribery would constitute corruption in election financing? When Reagan convinced Iran not to release US hostages until after the Carter election? When Reagan sold arms illegally to Iran in order to finance an illegal war and coup in Latin America? When Bush's brother and cronies prevented votes from being counted and 5 US Supreme Court judges said that would be fine? When Diebold refused to count votes accurately in Ohio in the Kerry election? When the US Supreme Court said that money is speech and corporations are people? When the US Supreme Court said laws to protect against voter suppression are not constitutional? America was never a democracy and is not today.
Democracy can only exist in small communities where people know each other. It is never perfect, but can function in Greek polises. Nowdays even in Switzerland to some extent (can't control SNB though :), Iceland. In a big system democracy loses because nobody know anyone except through the TV, paper, net. Hence you vote for a number of strangers who belong to parties being funded by elites who also own the TV (public opinion). So what is the democracy of the 21. century? I believe there are only 2 options to decrease the influence of aristocracy. Basic though is always an increase in transperancy.
1)A dictator with absolute power elected every 10 years (include that all state debts incured during the term have to be repaid by the end of the term) with only limitation being giving up term if not relected. Not a fan of this
2)Internet democracy. Anyone who passes an online test with basic political knowledge, IQ test (make 100 min), information sourcing and similar can be a member of peoples assembly. Propose and vote on any bill. Everyone who doesnt pass the test or does not get involved in this democracy has a few choices. Login to your username and choose a representative (based on popularity, list of previous voting, idc) or chose to abstain from political process. Anyone's vote who does not change default is proportianly distributed to the representatives. There would be issues here as well such as paying political parties, however the democratic process would be much more complete and transperent. I can already see internet streamers transmitting their voting, hundreds of political blogs. Just give the power to chose important laws to people.
Clearly obviously DICTATORSHIP OF BY AND FOR THE PROLETARIAT HORDES,
PROOF IS ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS CONSTITUTE 60% OF GUMMINT SPENDING,
IE VOTE BUYING.
Latvian troll, a.k.a. viedoklis_lv, a.k.a. freedom123, a.k.a. newsoutlet
Latvia is a tiny shithole filled with gray skinned people with body odor and bad breath where their old people proudly
wear nazi waffen SS uniforms from World War 2. This tiny piece of shit country is nothing but a pimple on Russia's ass.
While Russia produces great scientists and cultural figures, Latvia produces clowns like newsoutlet
No. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. It was a republican confederation of anarchosyndicalist states, watching out for each other. Yes. No. What happened to Russia was a foreign covert operation. It was never a democracy it was a constitutional republic, Carter (CFR, TLC) and friends aren't going to ever tell the truth, forget him. You need more training.