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Israeli Military Brass - And American Jews - Support Iran Deal
Haaretz reports that an impressive list of top Israeli military brass support the deal with Iran. These military leaders wrote a letter to Netanyahu urging him to support the Iran deal.
Because it’s hard to read names jammed together without any organization, here’s a list of some of the military bigwigs (all now retired) who signed the letter:
- Shlomo Gaza, Chief of Intelligence, Major General
- Carmi Gillon, Director of Israel Security Agency
- Ami Ayalon, Vice Admiral, Director of Israel Security Agency
- Itamar Yaar, Colonel Deputy Israeli National Security Council
- Arie Pellman, Israeli Security Agency official
- Amiram Levin, deputy of the Mossad director, Major General
- Itzhak Barzilay, Mossad official
- Nathan Sharony, Major General, head of planning for the armed forces
Numerous admirals and generals signed the letter as well:
- David Ben Bashat, Vice Admiral
- Micha Ram, Vice Admiral
- Alex Tal, Vice Admiral
- Amira Dotan, Brigadier General, member of Parliament
- Uzi Eilam, Brigadier General, Director of Israel’s Atomic Energy Commission
- Aviezer Yaari, Major General
- Giora Romm, Major General
- Moshe Lichtman, Major General
- Amram Mitzna, Major General, member of Parliament
- Abraham Almog, Brigadier General, Medal of Courage
- Asher Levy, Brigadier General
- Yossi Gonen, Brigadier General
- Giora Inbar, Brigadier General
- Arie Keren, Brigadier General
- Yoram Cohen, Brigadier General
- Shlomo Egozy. Brigadier General
- Yosef Eyal, Brigadier General
- Asaf Agmon, Brigadier General
- Uriel Agmon, Brigadier General
- Yoram Agmon, Brigadier General
- Amos Amir Brigadier General
- Mordechai ‘Motke’ Ben Porat, Brigadier General
- Shaul Gavoli, Police Major Geneneral, LDF Brigadier General
- Ilan Paz, Brigadier General
- Yitzhak Rabin, Brigadier General
- Giora Ram (Furman), PhD, Brigadier General
- Yaron Ram, Brigadier General
- Gilad Ramot, Brigadier General
- Gilad Raz, Brigadier General
- lftach Spector, Brigadier General
- Benny Taran , Brigadier General
- Aharon Vardi, Brigadier General
- Shlomo Waxe. Brigadier General
- Izak Zamir, Brigadier General
- Gadi Zohar, Brigadier General
- Amnon Reshef, General
- Ran Ronen, General
- Danny Rothschild, General
In addition, numerous top Israeli military brass have previously come out in favor of the Iran deal, including:
- Efraim Halevy, Mossad Director; former head of National Security Council
- Shlomo Ben-Ami, Minister of Foreign Affairs and Internal Security
- Shlomo Brom, brigadier general; former director of IDF strategic planning division; former deputy national security advisor
- Uzi Arad, national security advisor
- Dov Tamari, military intelligence chief; former head of special operations
- Chuck Freilich, deputy national security advisor
- Yitzhak Ben-Yisrael, Chair of Israel’s space agency; former IDF general
- Uzi Even, lead scientist at Israel’s Dimona nuclear reactor
- Eran Etzion, Deputy Head of the Israeli National Security Council; former Head of Policy Planning at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
- Israel Ziv, major general
- Eli Levite, deputy director general of Israel’s atomic energy commission
Polls show that American Jews overwhelmingly support the deal with Iran.
For example, the Christian Science Monitor noted last November:
84 percent of American Jews would favor either strongly or somewhat a deal with Iran that would alleviate tough sanctions on the Iranian economy in exchange for Iran’s agreement to limit its nuclear program to civilian purposes and accept inspectors at its nuclear facilities.
The pro-Israel group J Street noted in June:
American Jews express strong support for a final agreement with Iran that increases inspections in exchange for economic sanctions relief. Fifty-nine percent say they would support such a deal, compared to 53 percent of American adults in an April CNN poll that asked the same question.
J Street reported last month:
A new national survey of 1,000 American Jews, conducted by GBA Strategies for J Street, finds that a large majority of Jews support the agreement recently reached between the United States, world powers, and Iran. The 20-point margin (60 percent to 40 percent) in favor of the agreement is consistent with the 18-point margin found in the LA Jewish Journal’s survey released last week, as well as the 18-point margin in J Street’s survey conducted prior to the agreement. Multiple surveys have shown with resounding clarity that American Jews firmly back the agreement, and now want Congress to approve it.
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Given the massive campaigns against the agreement that has been launched by AIPAC and the Republican Jewish Coalition, it is very clear that these high profile campaigns do not reflect the views of the majority of American Jews.
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Seventy percent [of American Jews] would support US engagement even if it meant stating US disagreements with both the Israelis and Arabs and 69 percent would support the US pressuring both parties to make the compromises.
And see this, this, this, this, this, this and this.
The head of the CIA also supports the deal.
Everyone - including the Iranian public - knows that the Mullahs of Iran are complete A$$H@les.
So why would Israeli military brass and American Jews support a deal with Iran? Perhaps because:
- Contrary to widespread claims, there is NO EVIDENCE that Iran is building a nuclear weapon. Even Israel admits that Iran has not decided to build a nuclear bomb (If you've heard otherwise, HERE'S WHY)
- Top American defense officials say that – despite its heated rhetoric (often mistranslated in the U.S.) – Iran is a “rational actor”
- Experts say that Iran poses very little threat to the West or Israel . Top American and Israeli military and intelligence officials say that – even if Iran did build a nuclear bomb – it would not be that dangerous, because Israel and America have so many more nukes. And see this
- Conversely, American military and intelligence chiefs say that attacking Iran would only speed up its development of nuclear weapons, empower its hardliners, and undermine the chance for democratic reform
- Iran has not started a war for at least 188 years (in the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq was the initial aggressor)
- The people pushing for war against Iran are the same people who pushed for war against Iraq, and said it would be a “cakewalk”. See this and this
- They've been pushing for another round of regime change in Iran for decades
- The CIA admits that the U.S. overthrew the moderate, suit-and-tie-wearing, Democratically-elected prime minister of Iran in 1953. He was overthrown because he had nationalized Iran’s oil, which had previously been controlled by BP and other Western oil companies. As part of that action, the CIA admits that it hired Iranians to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its prime minister
- If the U.S. hadn’t overthrown the moderate Iranian government, the fundamentalist Mullahs would have never taken over. (Moreover, the U.S. has had a large hand in strengthening radical Islam in the Middle East by supporting radicals to fight the Soviets and others)
- On the other hand, the most violent Muslims are Sunnis. America backs the Sunnis in their fight against the Shias. Iran is a Shia country, and 89% of Iranian people are Shia
- America’s decades-long wars are hurting our national security. A top Pentagon official say we’re no safer – and perhaps less safe – after 13 years of war. Indeed, war only PROMOTED the dramatic expansion of even worse terrorists
- Never-ending wars are also destroying our freedom. The Founding Fathers warned against standing armies, saying that they destroy freedom. (update). Perversely, our government treats anti-war sentiment as terrorism. But peace and international trade is the only way to save our country
- Top economists say that war is destroying our economy. But war is great for the bankers and the defense contractors, and some of the powers-that-be are worried that peace with Iran would be bad for business
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predictable strategy. pit jews gainst jews. i thought jews were smart. oh well.
Some Israelis are concerned about other Israelis who'll die to create a Greater Israel. http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2009/01/15/map-of-greater...
Likud depends upon settlers for its majority control. http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/05/06/likud-and-jewish-home-strike-coalit...
Jewish Home's leader says, “A Jew always has a much higher soul than a gentile, even if he is a homosexual,” http://www.timesofisrael.com/new-deputy-defense-minister-called-palestin... This is in conflict with other Jews. http://www.jewfaq.org/gentiles.htm
I'm waiting for GW to downvote you.
I'm sick of war.
alleviate tough sanctions on the Iranian economy in exchange for
Yea, that's an awfully big IF though, isn't it. Shit in one hand and wish in the other...
The "play" is all about concessions for Israel...more taxpayer dollars for them to increase their war machine in exchange for them "going along". When you consider the taxpayer dollars going to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and other Israeli-aligned countries, plus what we "give" Israel (and this is only the published amount), something tells me we'd have much better schools, roads, healthcare, etc in OUR COUNTRY instead of pissing it away for a third party.
Look at who occupies the White House. He is no friend of Israel.
Yeah man, but the bible says....
This conjures a vision of McCain, Cheyney and Graham standing around a turd with sticks in their hands;
red faced, stamping their feet, whiningly protesting, "But!, we wanted to play!!"
This conjures a vision of McCain, Cheyney and Graham standing around a turd with sticks in their hands;red faced, stamping their feet, whiningly protesting, "But!, we wanted to play!!"
The pieces of shit who constantly scream for war, lust for war, campaign for war and PROFIT from war are NOT the poor SOB's who fight or die in those wars ... or if they are lucky enough to come home in one piece, be disposed of by those same profiteers and warmongers ... and have nightmares for the rest of their lives.
The fact remains that Iran has not started a war in 150+ years. The Iranians, nuclear weapons or not, are NOT a threat to world peace - which is more than I can say about Israel and it's lapdogs and supporters in the US (again, none of whom will die or suffer in a war they create). What would the Iranians do? Launch one nuke and then get rained on by Israel, the US and every other zio-toadie nation. The Iranians are not stupid. They are not suicidal .... but the zionist-controlled media wants you to believe they are - so again, they can "justify" moar woar.
Zion actually the one behind the so-called deal.
There is a game a foot, I do not know exactly what, but I am sure that it will end with a command performance by the Dancing Mossads, more Goy blood spilt, and Israeli hegemony over the Middle East.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
KCRISIC I like you, can't believe this deal could pass if Bibi didn't want it, I am simply an observer, but nothing happens in the Western World that the interests that Bibi represents don't want! The idea that Obama could persue any independent course is ludicrous!
Exactly. It's a setup for that dirty nuke that DC's been hinting at for over a decade. Then comes a western invasion of Iran. If Iran's smart, they will spend some of their new found billions on defensive weapons.
I thought that's the reason for their nuclear program to marry with the ballistic missile program.
And what will Iran do with $100Billion + it will gain access too,plus relief from crippling sanctions????
First they will be thanking Allah for having Obama and Kerry across the N table....
Probably buy better anti-air defence in the short term. They are living near a country in which religious zealots will get their finger on the button of nuclear weapons in the not too distant future, self defence is a high priority.
I'm talking of course about Haredi becoming a majority in Israel.
how do you know what color the table was?
Who cares what color the NEGOTIATING table is.
OOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!! my bad! (he typed sardonically)
One year worth of bling for the top 10%. Mud cakes for the rest, as usual.
It is simple, they encourage Israel to get behind the deal, which they know Iran will not adhere to, which gives them the excuse to take out what ever they like.
Like it or not the Israeli's actually enforce their 'red lines'
And so do I mothafuk.
Any attempt at diplomacy is always welcome in my book.
How much did the joos pay GW to write this little fluff piece?
Niiiice fluffy job there Georgie.
Still... Israel is a democracy which means the majority of the citizens of Israel are against this deal.
The generals are not controlling Israel, only the elected P.M. which formed a coalition of several political parties is in charge.
Deal with that.
Isreal is a fascist apartied state....wake the fuck up
Bla bla fascist bla bla aparthaid bla bla racist bla bla spoken like a true 20 year old bra burning Berkeley resident who has never seen the world.
I bet you have black friends.
Blah blah blah...Call for peace in Gaza or in Rahmalla and see if you might just get yourself murdered by democractically elected Hamas and Fatah.
Israel Is NOT a Democracy
Just like you are not a pathetic anti-semite. obsessed, fuled by hatred and destined to be consumed by it.
It's the largest welfare state supported by the taxpayers of this nation. If only the average American learned what that sh*thole nation has done to the US of A.
You cannot support your opinion with any measure of factual persuasion. How many Arab MK's in the Israeli parliament? More than the number of Jews living in Gaza by a factor of 10.
Why can't Jewish people just live in Gaza? Cause they'll be instantly murdered, and it's legal via their legislature, where it is against the law for Jews to live in said place.
Those poor oppressed Arab/Muslims living in Israel since 1948, more than one million, haven't voted with their feet and left. Unlike the millions in Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq that have. In fact, Arabs in Israel have demonstrably far more "Democracy" and economic self determination than anywhere in a Arab Run Nation. Facts are facts. Please, I invite all dissenters to a fact based debate...to include Samaria and Judea (However, this historically Jewish area is under the thumb of the PLO). Literacy, per capita income, mortality rates, life expectancy, etc.
yes let's praise their oppression by finding others more so
so you'd welcome their second class citizenship on yourself?
have your kids been "blown away" at a soccer game?
Please, I thought we dropped this bullshit "democracy" game long ago
This is about resource and strategic position, nothing more
and like everything else in hisotry, it will fail by its own arrogance, selfishness, hatred and stupidity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ZfnpN4Dfc
Dead on, Falcon. Note the sound of crickets to your challenge...
The Iran deal is just the latest big move leading up to the Gog Magog War described in the Bible. The Lord God will draw Russia, Iran and several other countries from their places to attack Israel. Think The Bible is a bunch of fairy tales, try doing some serious research on prophecy fulfillment and you'll see otherwise. The below is worth a good read.
http://trackingbibleprophecy.com/gog_magog.php
Mud Bog McEdit...
We get a refund if the show doesn't start..oh...and when?
are we....molding vague ancient words to mean something completely...whatever
I think we are...
"...knows that the Mullahs of Iran are complete A$$H@les..."
Yeah, like Bibi and the rest of the Israeli government aren't a bunch of A$$holes. I've spent a fair amount of time in Israel and Palestine and have seen up close and personal just how tyrannical the IDF is. They are champing at the bit to draw Iran into a war. And they already have hundreds of nuclear weapons which they won't declare. Trust me, they don't give a damn about human life other than a very select few. The rest of humanity is nothing but dogs to them. Including Americans by the way.
Yeah, like Bibi and the rest of the Israeli government aren't a bunch of A$$holes .... The rest of humanity is nothing but dogs to them. Including Americans
+1
Exactly - it's not like Iran has a policy that says "If it looks like we're going to be destroyed, we'll destroy the entire world before we let that happen" Only the super-psychos of Israel can come up with something that arrogant and fucked up .... (the Sampson Option)
Aw shit, I give up, mesmerizing demons are too powerful, padlocks of the brain.
"...The Lord God will draw Russia, Iran and several other countries from their places to attack Israel..."
Read that website and substitute the current Israeli Khazar government for Gog and NATO for Magog, then tell me what REALLY makes more sense Rikki. Hell, I should do it myself and try to get it published here. But then I would never read ZH again if they published something like that.
While all the false prophesizers wait for the USSR to attack Israel, the REAL Jews (and everyone else) wait for modern Israel to be liberated from the evil Gog and Magog that are there today.
That's why my planet refuses to invade your earth - you people are all f'king insane!
i'm fairly certain the gog magog war was fufilled in the 9th century.
however, gog and magog are also spirits as is babylon, etc, etc. so gog and magog show up in revelation again with a 200 million strong army of demons fighting against the elect.. anyhow, what i just said tends to offend people, and when people are offended when you callenge their hope and trust in a particular interpretation, you really have to stay away from them, they are dangerous and will behave irrationally when a black swan shows up.
btw, "no interpretation of prophecy is given, when it is fufilled it is self evident"
the reason why is this "so that no man may say it was hidden from me"
anyone who can argue against this should note also Peter's warning that no prophecy of scripture is of private interpretation.
+1
The Russians are white Christians. The NeoCons and NeoLibs plus PNAC, AIPAC, et al are not Christians.
Russians were not dancing next to delivery trucks in NJ on 9/11.
NJ cop Sgt. Scott DeCarlo. American and a hero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-B2J7tp8eg
http://libertyfight.com/2012/dancing_israelis_sued_the_govt_but_lost_in_...
WWIII starts with Pakistan and India - all else follows, including the hangings and beheading.
PS any idiot that wants WWIII to start so they can go to 'heaven', ain't going to heaven.
They will most likely will end up living as an ISIS bitch - for a very long time.
Indo Pak relations have rarely been better than they are right now, so that seems
unlikely to say the least.They are in the love part of their love/hate relationship.
Not an unlikely scenario at all. Effing DC saved the Pakis from India during GWB's administration. India had its chance to end the threat, but were stifled by the US Gov't.
Sorry I couldn't hold my nose and bite my tounge long enough to get through that nonsense... extrapolate and apply words loosely much?
That said, I'm not looking forward to the deliberately planned destructive events that will more than likely happen at the end of the second week of September 2015.
Call it what you will you have a right to your own opinion. I've seen and read too much in my lifetime to discount it. The Lord works in mysterious ways is a phrase that has been well used in my travels.
the lords are more mysterious than the lord
and they dress better too
there's nothing wrong with religion
it's what humans do with it
The Lord works in mysterious ways is a phrase that has been well used in my travels
True ... when and if he's working, it's mostly a mystery ;)
"Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord" .... and I'm fond of saying that a little strategically placed "vengeance" now and then would go a long way toward bolstering my faith. I'm not asking for nations to be wiped out, just for a few strategically chosen banksters/bureacrats/politicians/industrialists to get struck by lightning, die in horrible house fires, crushed under collapsed bridges, have their dicks rot off - that kind of thing. Seems God's been on vacation for a long time ..... IMO of course ....