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Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Of Peace Is Central To The Message Of Freedom
Submitted by Llewllyn Rockwell via The Mises Institute,
Ronald Reagan used to be called the Teflon president, on the grounds that no matter what gaffe or scandal engulfed him, it never stuck: he didn’t suffer in the polls. If Reagan was the Teflon president, the military is America’s Teflon institution. Even people who oppose whatever the current war happens to be can be counted on to “support the troops” and to live by the comforting delusion that whatever aberrations may be evident today, the system itself is basically sound.
To add insult to injury, whenever the US government gears up for yet another military intervention, it’s people who pretend to favor “limited government,” and who pride themselves on not falling for government propaganda, who can be counted on to stand up and salute.
I had the rare honor of serving as Ron Paul’s congressional chief of staff, and observed him in many proud moments in those days, and in his presidential campaigns. But Ron’s new book Swords into Plowshares: A Life in Wartime and a Future of Peace and Prosperity, a plainspoken and relentless case against war that ranks alongside Smedley Butler’s classic War Is a Racket, is possibly the proudest Ron Paul moment of all.
It’s been calculated that over the past 5,000 years there have been 14,000 wars fought, resulting in three and a half billion deaths. In the United States, between 1798 and 2015 there have been 369 uses of military force abroad. We have been conditioned to accept this as normal, or at the very least unavoidable. We are told to stifle any moral qualms we may have about mass killing on the question-begging grounds that, after all, “it’s war.”
Ron, on this as on a wide array of other topics, isn’t prepared to accept the conventional platitudes, and a recurring theme in his book involves speculating on whether, in the same way the human race has advanced so extraordinarily from a technological point of view, we might be capable of a comparable moral advance as well.
There is much in this book for libertarians and indeed all opponents of war to enjoy – for starters, a refutation of the claim that war is “good for the economy,” a discussion of the dangers of “blowback” posed by foreign interventionism, and an overview of the War on Terror from a noninterventionist perspective. But there is a profoundly personal dimension to this book as well, as we follow Ron’s life from his childhood to the present and the evolution of his thought on war. I’ll leave readers to discover these gems for themselves.
Likewise, Ron relates some little-known stories of war. In one, it’s two weeks after D-Day, and Captain Jack Tueller decided to play his trumpet that evening. He was instructed not to do so: his commander explained that a German sniper had still not been captured from the day’s battle. Figuring the sniper was a frightened young man not unlike himself, he played the German song “Lili Marleen.” The sniper surrendered to the Americans the next day.
Before being sent off to prison, the sniper asked to meet the trumpet player. He said, through tears, “When I heard that number that you played I thought about my fiancée in Germany. I thought about my mother and dad and about my brothers and sisters, and I could not fire.”
“He stuck out his hand and I shook the hand of the enemy,” Tueller recalls. “He was no enemy. He was scared and lonely like me.”
Another story takes place just before Christmas 1943. Charlie Brown, a 21-year-old farm boy from West Virginia was on his first combat mission as a pilot when his B-17 was seriously damaged over Germany. With half his crew dead or wounded, he was struggling to get his plane back to England when a German fighter came within three feet of his right wingtip. But Franz Stigler, the German pilot, did not fire. Instead, he simply nodded, pointed, and flew off, allowing Brown to make his way back to England.
Some 46 years later, the two men met again. Brown finally got to ask Stigler why he had been pointing. Stigler replied that he was trying to tell Brown to fly to Sweden, which was closer. But since Brown knew only how to get back to England, that’s where he went.
The two men became close friends, even fishing buddies. Stigler said that saving Brown’s life was the only good thing that came out of the whole war for him.
You won’t be surprised to learn that in addition to human-interest anecdotes like these, Ron spends time in Swords into Plowshares linking central banking and war, one of his perennial themes over the years. It isn’t for nothing that again and again, countries abandoned the gold standard when they went to war.
We rarely pause to consider what that tells us. If they needed to abandon the gold standard to go to war, that means the gold standard was a barrier against war. Of course, the ease with which governments could abandon the gold standard serves to remind us of the need to separate money and state altogether, and that the state cannot be trusted to maintain a sound money standard.
As always, Ron is at his fiery best when he unleashes on the neoconservatives, whose every overseas fiasco becomes a justification for still another fiasco six months later. He invites us to consider a typical remark by neoconservative Michael Ledeen: “Paradoxically, peace increases our peril, by making discipline less urgent, encouraging some of our worst instincts, and depriving us of some of our best leaders.”
Note that it is peace, according to Ledeen, and not war, that encourages our worst instincts. This was the view of Theodore Roosevelt, loved and admired by progressives and neoconservatives alike, who considered prolonged peace a deplorable state that made a people flabby and otiose.
Neocons complain when libertarians describe them as “pro-war” – why, they favor war only as a last resort, they assure us, and only because there are bad people in the world – but how else can we describe the views of Ledeen, who to my knowledge has never been publicly taken to task by any other neocon?
(Perhaps my favorite of Ron’s collection of ghoulish neocon quotations, though, if only for its obliviously Orwellian quality, is George W. Bush’s remark from June 2002: “I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we’re really talking about peace.”)
Meanwhile, the American people have been indoctrinated into a cult of the veteran, whom evangelicals blasphemously compare to Jesus Christ, and whereby everyone is expected to salute, applaud, and offer ostentatious thanks for the veteran’s “service.”
Here, by contrast, is Ron:
“Service” in our military to invade, occupy, and oppress countries in order to extend [the] US Empire must not be glorified as a “heroic” and sacred effort. My five years in the Air Force during the 1960s did not qualify me as any sort of hero. My primary thoughts now about that period of time are: “Why was I so complacent, and why did I so rarely seriously question the wisdom of the Vietnam War?”
Ron calls upon the peoples of the world to resist their governments’ calls to war and to refuse to take part in violent conflict. “If the authoritarians continue to abuse power in spite of constitutional and moral limits,” he writes, “the only recourse left is for the people to go on strike and refuse to sanction the wars and thefts. Deny the dictators your money and your bodies…. The more this is a worldwide movement, the better.”
This is why Ron is such a fan of the song “Universal Soldier,” which he asked singer Aimee Allen to perform at his dramatic Rally for the Republic in 2008. The man who enlists in the military and simply goes along with the prevailing current of opinion is the universal soldier. If he refused to “serve” and to fight, there could be no wars. Even Ron, a flight surgeon who never fired a shot, looks back on his time in the military and asks himself: why did I not resist? Why did I go along?
Needless to say, few among our political class – people who, generally speaking, have rather more to repent of than mild Ron Paul – reflect seriously on their moral choices, or rebuke themselves publicly.
When people read Swords into Plowshares generations from now – and they will – they will marvel that such a man actually served in the US Congress, and defied every campaign of war propaganda right on the House floor. But what’s great about Ron is not just his honesty, but also his constant intellectual growth – with the passage of time he has become an ever-more radical champion of freedom. His evolution is especially plain in this book, as you’ll discover for yourself.
One of the most important things Ron accomplished in public life was to show that it’s possible to oppose war without being a leftist. He likewise explained that a foreign policy of peace and nonintervention was a central, indispensable feature of the message of freedom, and not just an odd personality quirk of Ron Paul – as the many people who said “I like Ron Paul except his foreign policy” seem to have believed.
Bernie Sanders pretends to be antiwar, but as usual with socialists, a closer look shows he doesn’t really mean it. But even if he did, as a socialist he simply wants to point the guns at different targets – the undifferentiated aggregates like “the rich” to whom he urges his followers to direct their uncomprehending hate. Ron, on the other hand, is calling on us to put the guns down, and for peaceful interaction both between nations and among individuals.
It is a position most people had never heard of before 2008, since election campaigns are all about grabbing the machinery of state and pointing its guns at whatever group the eventual victor despises. But Ron captured the imaginations of millions of intelligent young people, whose brains hadn’t yet been deformed by an American political culture designed to deprive them of humane possibilities.
Ron turns 80 this month, and continues his life’s work of truth-telling. Wish Ron a happy birthday by joining us for a celebration in Lake Jackson on August 15, and by reading this extraordinary book.
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freedom will be something only read about in illegal history books
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You mean like the first amendment? Gone. Look at how Hastings disappeared.
2nd - background checks and bans
4th - Rand Paul had to shout down politicians to even observe that they are violating the bill of rights
The Banks and the corporations know Ron Paul is right, which is why they ARE the state now.
I like Ron Paul's ideas... in fact, I donated to his "campaign" years ago. But, Ron Paul - the man - leaves a lot to be desired. He blew several chances to vehemently take charge when fraud and lies were rampant during his campaign. He mousily let all opportunities pass and thus - the millions of dollars in internet bomb fundraising went completely to waste. Now that he's retired (and safe), it's easy to bombast from the sidelines. He had his chance and could have raised a ruckus - and the media would NOT have been able to ignore him - had he vocalized all of these truths voraciously.
We need an untouchable leader with balls to carry the message. Where art thou?
Ideas are bigger than men.
Ron is a peaceful man. He knew if he raised a ruckus especially at the RNC when corruption was out in the open for everyone to see that it would have started a war. I mean a real war. The Ron Paul supporters would fight for Ron, and he he knew that. We would have been steam rolled and eliminated by the establishment.
Now, we live to continue to light fires in the hearts of man. We need to awaken more before it collapses, then we can rebuild a more peaceful country.
You cannot impose peace on others.
And that is why he didnt engage in violence. He is and has always lead by example.
Wasn't referring to him...just your thought that somehow you can awaken people to "rebuild a more peaceful country."
Gotcha. I meant that if you use violent revolution that the governemng and society that is established will be based on violence. Its time for civil disobedience.
Dont show up for wars.
Jury nullification.
Hopefully, soon a tax revolt.
Civil disobedience is a contradiction in terms. It is mass passive-aggressive behavior that at its roots is designed to provoke conflict. It is a precursor to violent revolution. Conflict is the nature of man. Rejection of that reality is one of the fundamental flaws in the libertarian doctrine.
So not paying taxes is passive aggresive? Yeah, let's blame people who join together and organize to not pay taxes for the violence that the IRS would try to commit on them!
Its not passive aggressive to live my own life by my own rules, as long as I dont harm anyone else. Non-aggression principal at its purest!
With opinions like yours, I am fearful for the future.
Thank you for making my point.
So how often do you beat your wife and kids? It's inevitable, right?
You usually make good comments Red - some of the best. But you're missing the point here. Soldier on.
It's sad such a perspective was missing from last nights debate. Those clowns were falling all over themselves to out neocon each other when talking about Iran and Russia. Could have been rands moment to shine, but he didn't, and likely won't. I haven't gotten this book yet, but I suppose id better. I like seeing ZH post stuff by lew Rockwell. His site is another one I check pretty much everyday.
America had it's chance for Ron Paul, and likely won't get another like him anytime soon. Now it gets what it deserves, a stage full of warmongering buffoons.
Funny. Thats what I said after last night's debate. Most Americans deserve to be hauled away to some fema camp. Hooting and hollering for more and more war and more security.
I thought Rand did very well last night. Especially on the Isreal question. They tried to paint him as a jew hater, but he said we shouldn't borrow money to give away. And that tehir leader agrees that Isreal needs to be sovereign. Great answer for American foreign policy.
An unfiltered Ron would have provided a better answer for thgose of us that are awake, but for those whose heads are still buried, this answer was awesome!
Watching the last RNC primary, and the treatment of Ron Paul, was the final catalyst for me to renounce voting in any national election. I'll still vote for local shit, but as far as any national position. I'm writing in Scrooge McDuck (though these days that's almost a vote for Trump).
~"You cannot impose peace on others."~
Bullshit. What part of Hiroshima and Nagasaki did you miss?
I believe that the deal reached after the 2 bombs were dropped was available before the 2 bombs were dropped. The US was unwilling to accept a surrender w/o trying the emperor for war crimes, at first. Of course, after the bombs, the emperor was left alone. The pre-bomb deal was accepted by the US.
You cannot impose peace on others.
Ahhh, but you can nullify the "government" The market for Liberty
I beg to disagree, RM...
Your comment, "The Ron Paul supporters would fight for Ron"... is exactly right. So, by being passive, are you saying that he WASN'T eliminated by the establishment for being wimpy?!
Lines need to be drawn. Most of RP's supporters were and are young. They NEED to be aggressive to overthrow the monstrosity of a system now in place. Peace will only come after great struggle and victory against the eternal adversaries.
Truth is all the ignition we need to awaken more people... and that truth was in his message. He should have fought for it - tooth and nail.
Peace through violence cannot be obtained. I do not see it possible. The whole system needs to collapse. We all that it will. Hopefully, those of us that are able to survive and thrie are able to rebuild our communities in a way that is localzed and peaceful.
I believe the USA and the world will not be recognizable in 10 years. Hopefully, by then the worst will be over. But as for now, we march toward more war and more control from gov't and the bankers.
I'm young and willing to participate in the revolution, but I'm waiting for a few million other people to join me. And that is the crux of the whole matter: anyone willing is waiting for someone else to start it.
RP: Have you ever read the read about the reasons they attacked us?
Santorum: We were not attacked because of our actions
RP: We've been attacked because we are over there
Santorum: They want to kill us because of who we are and what we stand for
RP: We're there, occupying their land, and if we think that we can do that and not have retailiation we're kidding ourselelves
McCain: That kind of isolationism, sir, is what caused WW2
Guiliani: It's an extroardinary statement who's live through the attack of 9/11 that we've invited the attack
RP: I believe, very sincerely, when the CIA teach and talk about blowback.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FFt2Uoz9Wo
"the media would NOT have been able to ignore him" The media was going to ignore him, no matter what.
Ron was trying to promote his ideas of America's founding principles in a sound logical manner. That is his way. The problem isn't with Ron, it is the masses who are more interested in political entertainment than sound logic. He did not want to lower himself to the existing politcal level.
I am amazed how many ZH'ers are duped by The Don and the role he is playing for his bankster pals. He is great political entertainment to snare the masses.
The MSM blackballed Ron Paul who was leading the GOP in the polls at that time. They refused to include him in the debates as well.
The truth is that Donald Trump is a political hack and anyone promoting him and believing in him is an idiot.
Flame away tools...
Christie is a fascist tool.
You mean like the first amendment? Gone. Look at how Hastings disappeared.
2nd - background checks and bans
4th - Rand Paul had to shout down politicians to even observe that they are violating the bill of rights
Christie is a fascist tool.
You mean like the first amendment? Gone. Look at how Hastings disappeared.
2nd - background checks and bans
4th - Rand Paul had to shout down politicians to even observe that they are violating the bill of rights
Christie is a fascist tool.
You really need to do something about that stutter.
You mean like the first amendment? Gone. Look at how Hastings disappeared.
2nd - background checks and bans
4th - Rand Paul had to shout down politicians to even observe that they are violating the bill of rights
Sorry for the duplicates. Computer problems. I guess I just bogged down the NSA a bit more :)
Christie is a fascist tool. oops. -- Rick Perry style.
Christie is a fascist tool.
It's really sad when the majority of population applies and defends the use of the freedom of speech only in the context of ridiculing others...
What would happen if the bankers had a war and no one showed up to fight?
God bless Ron Paul! He has done more for Liberty than just about anyone in American history.
He's a hero in a sea of lies.
God bless Ron Paul! He has done more for Liberty than just about anyone in American history.
Ron Paul has advocated and spoken about his ideas of liberty. He may have attempted to do things, but he has accomplished virtually nothing.
In terms of government control yes. In terms of changing the hearts and minds of men. He has been more influential than any man in the past century in America.
...and you know this because you have a bona fide scorecard of the hearts and minds of men? Are you a carpenter from the order of Melchizedek?
Maybe not, but clearly a far wiser man than you.
Well that depends not on your opinion, but rather on what is true. So how confident are you that my view is wrong, even if it does not sync with that of the legion of Ron Paul followers?
"Maybe not, but clearly a far wiser man than you." Mayhem's called out by Sages WIFE.
Way to jump in from the grandstands and offer something substantive. /s
I have always respected your comments but on this subject you are in deep outer space.
Likewise, Bay. But please do tell me WHY. Because I think you will struggle to do so.
I voted for him in the Straw Poll in 2011. The MSM refused to utter he had made second place, spare the fact he was just 152 votes behind the Waterloo frontrunner.
It's NOT that he hasn't accomplished anything. It's absolutely that he was not ALLOWED to achieve true greatness as President. Still, he continues on the public scene, showing up on TV as he remains in demand. I would say this alone speaks that he has a strong legacy to leave behind, despite what you think.
I figure that says more about our shitty system than it does Dr. Paul. History will vindicate his philosophy,
and see him as being in the vanguard of a movement that has yet to come into it's own.
anybody up for a tag team of ron and rand paul vs. the entire bush clan?
If they do this I will pay my IRS taxes. on any level they decide.
There is a similarity with RON Paul and Ben Franklin.
Ben Franklin's son was a Tory.
Franklin moved to London in later life and died there too.
Franklin moved to London in later life and died there too.
Franklin moved to London in later life and died there too.
My deal is that there aint gonna be a fair fight in any of this. Jeb and his daddy know where I live, but I don't have trillion dollors, nor can I grant them peerage titles so they won't show up, even though I could take them both with one hand behind my back.
The occultists (tax collectors) like Ben franklin also have thier limits. Blood from a stone an all other manner of bullshit.
But seriously, is anybody ready for an american president who will fire the first shot in any agression the tax code comes up with? Trump sounds like he is ready. Castro is about the same in the international rankings.
What would happen if the bankers had a war and no one showed up to fight?
better, what would happen if the bankers had a war and we made them fight it
Ron Paul is a simple-minded buffoon,
and so are you for believing in his delusions.
Do you have a reasoned argument to support these claims? Or are you just trolling?
Because........................
I see u upvoted yourself.......kinda like masterbating huh? u lonely? There r porn and dating websites u can visit...in fact the banker owned govern!ent probably will hire u for airport nsa or even a police officer...they love people with low iq
Good display of peaceful interaction, coast. Sorta like Ron Paul...or different?
I didn't handle it well and I apologize...I like Ron so I stick up for him. But I should do it in a more professional manner...I apologize to all...although I thought it was kinda humorous and a touch of creativity...not a fan of Ron's son tho and trump is a trump card for the bankers..the bankers sure r getting desperate tho...fun to watch the soap opera.........question for ya....why does Ukraine get all the money but Greece doest...and why does trump get so much media when Ron said it better and was shunned...
Admittedly Rand is weak tea, but I think he is doing what he has to in order to have a viable shot.
Once in office he'd probably remind you more of his dad, who would probably be a key advisor.
Do you know them both personally and intimately? I mean, enough to inform what you are saying? Or are you just waxing on about what you hope is the case?
I notice you ask a lot of questions.
That's what seekers of truth do. Rather than blindly accept the rhetoric, I probe into whether it has merit, whether doctrine followers have really thought about what they are saying, rather than just reiterating the meme.
The core issue here is the libertarian doctrine that we can proliferate peace if we exemplify it by peacefully tending to our own. That is based on a number of unsupported assumptions, chiefly that people are inherently good/peaceful.
In the tale of the scorpion and the frog, the scorpion doesn't try to convince the frog that he is not a scorpion - he just convinces him that he won't sting him. The Libertarian doctrine is akin to convincing the world that somehow their political ideology immunizes them against their own nature.
You lead by example. What are you doing on that front other than lobbing insults at Ron Paul and Libertarians?
Reread my comments, Bay. Is there an insult in there, or just a challenge to the thinking? Libertarians ate pretty quick to toss out labels like 'neocon' without hesitation. But someone actually challenges the tenets of Libertarian theology, and you assume it is an insult. I've asked countless times about Ron Paul's actual achievements...is that insulting him or simply pointing out what is factual?
Think about why you believe I'm insulting rather than probing.
You and realmoney are making the point - conflict is man's nature. People kill each other in blind flashes of rage. You simply lost your focus. It's the nature of man. Which is why the notion that peace can be proliferated by man is an illusion.
I didn't handle it well and I apologize...I like Ron so I stick up for him. But I should do it in a more professional manner...I apologize to all...although I thought it was kinda humorous and a touch of creativity...not a fan of Ron's son tho and trump is a trump card for the bankers..the bankers sure r getting desperate tho...fun to watch the soap opera
Go probe your self.
Is there any country in the world where the people are subjected to a more pervasive, aggressive, zionist-owned pro war media? The most intelligent people I know (master craftsman, entrepreneurs, university professors in electronics, etc) are all convinced that every military endeavor must not be questioned! USA USA USA! Military Heroes!
I greatly dislike people who proudly support the troops. Not because I hate soldiers individually. I don't have it in me to hate people.
I hate armies, and all the suffering they have caused through the ages. I view armies as a threat to my safety. I view people who support armies as dangerously delusional. Support the troops today, turn your nieghbor over to them tomorrow. Fuck that.
I have great sympathy for people who endure massive trama. However, I refuse to go along with the "hero" meme gushed upon the troops. It is pure propoganda! There are, of course, heroic acts (and not so much) committed during war. But these are kids, for the most part, who are unable to wisely discern what they sign up for. Not only that, but the majority simply have very few viable options out of high school. The reality of war is that they are fought by the common to benefit the elite. There are no Kings and Princes leading the men into battle for the good of mankind! There is no Game of Thrones or Lord of the Rings heroism!
Is there glory in death for your State? What god, or philosophy, or other authority defines good and evil to grant you that glory? Ancient Greek heroes were always compensated for their services. Modern heroes are compensated with glory and praise. Is unquestioning servitude noble?
“The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental , nor do they result from from ordinary hypocrisy: they are deliberate exercises in doublethink”
? George Orwell, 1984
At the heart of the tyranny that enslaves us, that murders others, lies the banksters' fiat-debt and counterfeit.
The first step toward peace is to end, and put to the guillotine, the banksters and their fraudulent-reserve grifting, their slither partners, and treasonous thug enforcers. The rest shall be encouraged to "return," as they now have a stolen land to shower their intellectual gifts upon.
Their tyranny would then collapse into the muck from which it came, and peace would then be permitted to walk the land again.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
Too bad Ron isn't running... this is the time he had the best chance...
Rand's perm damaged his brain last night.
here look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRPWLqc5T20
is there any way to get Ron to run in 2016.???.
I think the country is now ready for him.
Holy Shit! You have to check out this video interview of Stevan Segal - who seems to be a better and more well read political statesman than Obama? This is not a joke. This RT video interview of him - wow. He must be a ZHr! You are not going to see this on CNN that is for sure. I must admit I have a new found respect for him!
http://unreportedtruth.com/video/steven-seagal-about-obama-russia-and-th...
The book is excellent - well worth the buy
If they needed to abandon the gold standard to go to war, that means the gold standard was a barrier against war.
The trouble is, the gold standard was also a barrier against free and open trade. It's ridiculous for a trader to have to find someone with gold to back his trading promises ... especially when there's only one ounce of the stuff per person on Earth.
There is a far better way to properly manage any Medium of Exchange (MOE) without some artificial commodity backing. Gold "never" really backed any MOE. There was never enough of it to equal all in-process trading promises (and that "is" what money is). There has never been a time when gold was the "standard", where everyone could simultaneously take a recognized substitute for it (e.g. currency or accounting entries) and obtain gold. There has never been enough to do that and its value changes with its own supply and demand.
While you're singing the praises of the gold standard, how about telling us how it works.
How does a gold standard guarantee traders free access to money so they can effect their trades over time and space. How does it "guarantee" zero inflation ... everywhere ... all the time?
Regarding governments: Governments make trading promises with no intention to deliver. They just roll them over ... and that's default which must be immediately mitigated with an equal interest collection. There are far better ways to make governments deliver on their trading promises (or keep them from making them in the first place) than to impose a commodity standard on the MOE.
For any properly managed MOE, the governing relation is: INFLATION = DEFAULT - INTEREST = zero.
Gold can't guarantee that relation. Gold used the way the Mises Monks see it being used is just another commodity like silver, oil, or pork bellies. There's nothing inherently standard about it as its value must change as the supply and demand for it changes. To be a standard, its value must "never" change. Supply and demand for it must be perpetually equal ... all the time ... everywhere.
: his commander explained that a German sniper had still not been captured from the day’s battle.
Please ... most commanders can't keep track of their own troops, let alone how many snipers are out there against them and whether they are all accounted for.
Some 46 years later, the two men met again. Brown finally got to ask Stigler why he had been pointing. Stigler replied that he was trying to tell Brown to fly to Sweden, which was closer. But since Brown knew only how to get back to England, that’s where he went.
The two men became close friends, even fishing buddies. Stigler said that saving Brown’s life was the only good thing that came out of the whole war for him.
These tear jerking stories are pure fabrication ... just like the shoah.
Now ask yourself, what two pilots (who are thoroughly trained to hate their enemies and joined the military to protect their countries against the bad guys) in this moment of stress are going to collect enough data to make such a match up possible. Remember, that B17 likely bombed this guy's neighbors and friends.
These fairy tales have been proved fabrications over and over again. If we continually believe this kind of nonsense, we deserve what we get.
Brown knew only how to get back to England, that’s where he went.
Even if the navigator was one of the dead, "all" pilots can navigate to anywere. It's not like they drop bread crumbs and have to follow them back home.
Are we to believe these planes didn't carry charts to everything within their range? Pilots are like baseball players. They are running over in their heads what to do regardless of what the batter does. They know the best ditch points ... all the time ... and if Sweden was one of them, this pilot knew it.
And if the pilot didn't have access to those charts, for sure he didn't carry enough chart information in his head to fly home ... um, England's west and kind of kidney shaped isn't it?
While the, “the gold standard was a barrier against war” it also was a barrier against overpopulation that’s the main threat against the environment.
This factoid is finally going to be realized by the global masses as the central bank global bubbles deflate and terminal debt prevents any further bubble blowing.
We’ve finally run out of road to kick the can. No more counterfeited money for overpopulation or wars.
Throughout his 12 Terms in Congress Dr. Ron Paul displayed More Integrity than All of the rest of Congress Combined!
My "Ron Paul for President 2008" bumpersticker remains on my rear bumper to this day!