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The Chart That No Stock Market Bull Wants To See

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The omens are not good when momentum and quality become highly correlated, warns SocGen's cross-asset research group.

 

Quality is now essentially price momentum and vice versa, and history tells us when these two strategies collide the omens are not usually good, as it is a phenomena usually associated with equity markets turning bearish. This becomes even more evident when they plug the factors into their bear market indicator...  

 

Simply put, we are in a bear market!

As ScoGen's Andrew Lapthorne notes,

...when you view the US equity market through the prism of investment style performance (which as we stated earlier is one of the useful features of factor indices), you can see that investors are positioning themselves EXACTLY as you would expect if faced with an economic deceleration. The 20 day correlation between our US quality style and commodity prices has averaged ca. 60% since November last year, and prior to that the correlation was effectively zero.

 

So as we have said many times, investors may be buying equities because they have few alternatives, but they are clearly economically bearish.

Source: Societe Generale

 

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Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:31 | 6401584 mtndds
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Oh man, those charts make my pants feel tight.

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:33 | 6401592 Hugh G. Rection
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I don't understand but agree thoroughly!

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:40 | 6401622 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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I don't have any idea what this chart means, but I think it's bullish...I'm going to increase my DOW holdings

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 14:15 | 6402011 indygo55
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That 401k money still pours into these peoples hands every week. They are required to put it to work. They have no choice other then to join the unemployed. 

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:41 | 6401624 NoDebt
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Often wrong, never in doubt.  Story of my life.

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:35 | 6401596 KnuckleDragger-X
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I gotta buy something and I got a real good deal on these magic beans......

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:43 | 6401630 Glass Seagull
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Probably a classification tree overfit by SocGen over too few business cycles, but, sure.

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:44 | 6401631 NoDebt
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I don't mean to point out the elephant in the room, but I think we're getting the much anticipated but not expected "10% correction" in stocks right now.

That should be sufficient to get Janet & Co. peeing in their Depends and starting to make noise about "lower for longer" again.

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:49 | 6401649 KnuckleDragger-X
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10% unless somebody panic's and that's becoming more possible every day. The driver will be the FED and where and how much money they throw at the problem which will decide how bad and how fast....

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:53 | 6401666 NoDebt
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Panic only sets in when the margin calls start flowing.  Or the debt rating covenants start being breached.  That's all I look for any more- anything that smells like systemic contagion.  Nothing less will make a lasting dent.

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 13:39 | 6401884 KnuckleDragger-X
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I'm kind of watching the carry trade, those people are starting to sweat a little, but really bonds is the ticking bomb that a lot players are edging away from......

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 13:02 | 6401709 TeamDepends
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You should see the special Extra-Strength model they had us (at gunpoint) design for them. We are sworn to secrecy (again at gunpoint) but let's just say titanium plays a significant role. And don't you worry, when the time is right we will swab them with a specially formulated flesh-eating bacteria.

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:46 | 6401642 Bill of Rights
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Is that second one a chart or a used maxi pad?

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:46 | 6401645 nosoeawe
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Well guess what Mr. Soc Gen MBA - a FUCKING BULL MARKET doesn't require 7 years of ZERO FUCKING INTEREST RATES. A bull market doesn't need the WHITE HAIRED GARDEN GNOME and her merry band of economic TWATS and CUNTS buying the FUCKING market with QE1, QE2, QE3 and soon to be QE4. What bull market said "HEY, GIVE ME SOME FUCKING TARP" so I can continue to be a bull. 

You know the shit house is about to burn when even educated (cough, cough) economists believe the SENILE COOT'S bull shit about a bull market. Bitch please.

 

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:54 | 6401677 NoDebt
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I feel like you're holding back.  Please feel free to tell us what you really think.

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 15:29 | 6402246 Ghostdog
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Quit sugar-coating this with politically correct bullshit!

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:51 | 6401661 Callz d Ballz
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The "market" didn't get the message.

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:54 | 6401675 Bill of Rights
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Something to consider

Withholding Tax Collections Have Collapsed But Unemployment Claims Are Still At Record Lows

http://wallstreetexaminer.com/2015/08/withholding-tax-collections-have-collapsed-but-unemployment-claims-are-still-at-record-lows/

 

The record lows in claims are inconsistent with the sharp drop in withholding tax collections. It suggests that regular weekly incentive pay, such as sales commissions at some retailers, auto dealers, and the like, has collapsed over the past month. If that is the case, then it won't be long until the layoffs begin.'

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 12:55 | 6401678 Squid Viscous
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NFLX the first $60 billion negative cash flow company in history, uncharted waters ...

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 13:08 | 6401734 Yancey Ward
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It is different this time.

Fri, 08/07/2015 - 13:42 | 6401895 lunaticfringe
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Bear markets are so 20th century. 

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