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"Teflon" Trump Remains Double-Digit Leader In Post-Debate Poll
Despite rumors, spin, Koch Brothers' spending, and FOX News' efforts, "Teflon" Donald Trump remains the clear leader in the first post-debate poll.
According to the latest NBC News Online Poll conducted by SurveyMonkey, Trump is at the top of the list of GOP candidates that Republican primary voters would cast a ballot for if the primary were being held right now.
The overnight poll was conducted for 24 hours from Friday evening into Saturday. During that period, Donald Trump stayed in the headlines due to his negative comments about Kelly and was dis-invited from a major conservative gathering in Atlanta.
None of that stopped Trump from coming in at the top of the poll with 23 percent.
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Carly Fiorina has surged into 4th place after her undercard victory this week and perhaps most stunningly for the 'establishment', Jeb Bush has dropped out of the Top 5.
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I love him 'cause they hate him.
Insult of insults: Peggy Noonan described Jeb as having a "low pilot light"
That is high praise in Common Corese.
God bless Donald Trump and keep him and his family safe from harm.
My previous comment on Carly ...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-06/gop-debates-post-mortem-fiorina...
That gal screwed HP over ... here is one (old) example ...
Making a big business deal to buy time because one has otherwise screwed things up. Leadership!
She is being fluffed in the press (I scanned a lot of headlines) while they are simultaneously bashing The Don as a misogynist as almost all his debate coverage is the Rosie O'Donnel bit, particularly in the left leaning press.
I actually read through a transcript of the whole debate and it does NOT match any of the coverage I am seeing at the major outlets AT ALL. Let's face it ... I said mean shit about my ex-wife and I am not a misogynist. This is just taking shit out of context and framing it to produce an emotion/opinion in a reader. They have no coverage on his immigration stance and other stuff, because people might actually want to know more about that! But, based on The Don's poll numbers the strategy to drive him under isn't working ... so expect them to really crank up the heat as this debate theater moves forward.
Regards,
Cooter
And Denniger has a hoot of a post on Meagan ...
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230490
Regards,
Cooter
The Queen is dead, long live the queen!
Amerikan peasants are so dense. Get it through your fucking skulls already, Hitlary the fucking cunt will be next POTUS. GET IT?
Trump aside, looks like Fox's attempt to coddle support for Bush backfired, even though they put his weiner in their...wherever...
No she won't.
Be honest, who will beat her? You can not look at this from the way we look at the world. She will be the next POTUS should we ever get to elections.
You don't know that, dick!
+1 Totally agree with absolutely everything Denninger said.
So glad Trump is still on top. What's disappointing is that
none of the other Republicans went out of their way to defend
Trump based on the same analytical logic as KD. In fact they
further disparaged them. Too bad, because I had high hopes
for Carson, Cruz or Fiorina as VP. Fuck those three stooges. I'm
in the same camp that the more the paid media denigrates
DT -- the more I love and support him. Go Trump -- who always
lands on his feetl.
I'm from Texas and I can tell you Cruz is a turd in the punchbowl. He promises to tell the truth but he stands for all the wrong things. Other than Trump only Walker looked half decent.
Walker is Koch's prime racehorse ya know
I used to keep Fox News on the tube when the other 72 channels were crap. Now I'll watch the Golf channel.
No surprise to see it take this long for the MSM to do a poll.
Highest rated non-sporting cable event ever and the MSM wanted a few days of relentlessly negative coverage of Trump before they took a poll.
...and Trump still won.
Exactly. I went looking for polling the day after the debate, and when I didn't find any, I knew trump was still at the top. If it was anyone else the headlines would have been huge.
What ever happened to Rand in the polls or did they forget to ask about him intentionally. Didn't Ron Paul place 2nd in Iowa and the MSN put him at the bottom of the list instead of one down from the top??!
I was wondering the same thing~!!! Talk about someone the mainstream DON'T want -as well.
Ron Paul got 3rd place: it was 22% Romney, 21% Santorum, and 20% Paul IIRC. Paul's campaign (I was part) also got everyone into a vote-counting position (votes are done on paper in caucuses), and we independently confirmed the vote.
From what we could see, Santorum bet the bank at the last minute, touring all 99 counties in Iowa, and this was enough to get him to steal the necessary number of votes from Paul so that both would lose. Even still, it was clear that no one liked Romney from the beginning, and the few who did vote for him told me it was b/c the media said he could win, even as the polls said otherwise.
Trump/Fiorina looks like an unbeatable ticket, that is if the vote actually matters anymore, which...
Trump would never pick Fiorina. But Trump won't get the nomination,and looks to be ready to go third party.
Get ready for president Hillary. Thanks a lot, Trump, you giant ego infused windbag. Sure, you "tapped into the anger," but that'a all you have...anger. And enough money to keep an unviable candidacy alive long enough to split- and kill- the conservative vote.
The arrogant, narcissitic, pompous Trump is in position to ruin the 2016 election.
Hey that was well said, especially the ending.
I think if Trump chooses his own hair as his vp running mate, he can't be defeated.
Long The Don!
...and his hair.
Time is of the essence.
Conservative vote????
Yeah, that really worked out well with Bush as president or Bonehead as speaker.
The election can't be ruined. It's all a show anyway and Trump is a showman. Sit back relax and watch the deterioration of the country continue. Anything else means you have to kill people and accellerate the decline. I'm not into that so I'll just watch and prepare for the worst. The worst will get here. It won't get better until we hit bottom.
I Googled the Fiorina name. When "smiling", she shows a maniacal and almost sadistic grin similar to that of Michelle Malkin, also a rabid right-wing pundit. A rather disturbing pattern among conservative women.
And you give a shit why????
Do all good things look 'maniacal' to you Eirik?
What is "good" with this c*nt?
Don is the giant middle finger to the ruling elite.
FORWARD SOVIET!
The sense of entitlement to the Presidency oozes out of that guy's pores. It's laughable and sickening at the same time. I'm sure they'll eventually foist his 'hispanic' son into POTUS. These people are like stink in an outhouse - you'll never get rid of it.
You should'nt even try, the pres's shit don't stink.
One thing you can't take away from The Don is that he has exposed MSM and the One Party party as the shameless whores they are.
Yes, the main difference between him being a business tycoon whore, and them, is that he has to actually make something work, while they live off the public's tit.
"Moneybags capitalist loudmouth explains to 80 million dumbfounded Americans watching prime time TV, that the system is a total fraud, that the big money runs everything, and that even he thinks the system is broken."
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/07/trumps-triumph-billionaire-blowhard-exposes-fake-political-system/
To whomever downvoted me: The quote above was a COMPLIMENT to Trump... Read the great article.
And yeah, I know this thread is dead and no one will ever see this comment... <sigh>
Thousands sign petition to keep Megyn Kelly out of future GOP debates http://www.examiner.com/article/thousands-sign-petition-to-keep-megyn-ke... via @examinercom
Even the Left thinks he's in front, the real number must be twice that.
do not waste your time! democratic or republican Parties are all freemasons on top.
You are being played.
Politics will always be showbiz for ugly people.
I heard that on AM radio ;-)
No question, and here is how.
http://www.vox.com/2015/8/8/9121377/donald-trump-megyn-kelly
I'm pretty sure that he means with this list of douchebags they are setting Hillary up for success.
There was a time when there was intelligent life on ZH.
You post a Vox url? Are you fucking stupid or hasn't MSNBC published anything related yet?
and you have already been 'played' for 40+ years, fool.
Fool me once shambers on me, fool me twice, shambers on you.
We are doing ok. Thanks.
At least Jeb can stay home. I'm relieved he won't have to spend four years telling everyone everything they want to hear and then having a war with Russia. Finally, something is making sense.
Can you image the first meeting between NuLand and President Jeb Bush during the transition?
Nuland: Jeb, we have a situation.
Jeb: What is it?
Nuland: The secret service found a picture on your mom and dad's face book account. Putin, with his shirt off, riding a dinosaur.
Jeb: How is that even possible? I thought dinosaurs were exinct.
Nuland: (frustrated) ... thats not the point ...
Jeb: What is the point?
Nulan: (regrouped) Putin has weapons of mass destruction.
Jeb: Does that mean we have to ... you know ...
Nulan: Yes jeb, thats what it means.
Jeb: Okay. Uncle Dick said I had to be ready for tough decisions like this. Go for it! Now, do I get a dinasour too?
Nulan: you sure do Jeb. we'll get right on it.
Jeb: Hey wait! I want a pet goat instead. Standing on it's head. Yeah...
Nuland: (holding back ecstasy) Of course Jeb! We actually anticipated this and have one right here for you.
Jeb: Awesome! But hey, aren't you supposed to call me Mr. President?
Nuland: (to the goat) Of course Mr. President.
Nobody seems to have anything good to say about the Yenta Nudelman. Well, nothing is all black or all white.
For example, when she helped nazis overthrow a democratically elected government in Ukraine, she didn't just stand around distributing cookies to the nazis while US snipers killed people in Maiden Square. Oh No! That would be all black, no white.
But it didn't happen that way. She distributed "Gluten-Free" cookies to the nazis. It shows that she is deeply concerned about other people's well being. Big difference.
Oh how the public continues to be so easily deceived...
That's right big ugly. 50+ years of R&D status quo rule deceiving the masses. Time has come for a change. I suspect you will be paying dearly for such change. Oh well. Ye reap what ye have sewn....
Should one laugh, cry --- or perhaps marvel, at the genius of those who understand the nature of crowds and how to move them in any direction desired...?
Yep. The PTB have been doing it for years. Looks like that time is ending...
This is hilarious. Staunch Trump supporters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP6S3KE2DaI
Subbed!
Only the Donald could "trump" himself.
Trump is over 30%.
NBC blows.
The amount of lying should tell you just how worried the elites have become. Repub, Dem and media are all part of the same team...even Fox news apparently.
Yep. The horse is out of the barn and the scum is circling the drain. The status quo has got to go and I think the path is finally being laid in what used to be the good 'old USA. Stay alert. Cowards (TPTB) will do anything when frightened...
We have to do paper ballots or the elections will be rigged again.
Jeb Bush has dropped out of the Top 5....that's awesome !
And he's their "man"!
Never understood the appeal of Jeb Bush.
Don trump
Man of the people
A brand unto himself
American icahn
Fucking Hilarious! I love it! Fuck you Republican Establishment!
Megan Kelly is a stupid bitch and FOX sould be blasted till they fire her for that shit. The amount of Money Trump made for that network is outragous and that dumb feminist twit just bit the hand that feeds her.
Fucking EXACTLY....they (fox et al) KNEW THE ratings would be sky high and what do they do? The moderators paraded aournd like they had two foot erections and everyone was tuning in for them. HUBRIS personified. I hear Mr. Trump has banned himself from fox. What a bunch of idiots. So poorly played they could have had him on fox specials all week and had a ratings bonanza...pure lunacy..
Fox is kinda following in CNBC's footsteps. Just goes to show you the best and brightest are not of this 'system'....
The news racket: I think listening to constant bad news breaks you down and turns you into an blithering idiot. Can't think of a single journalist who stayed conserative. Limbaugh is not a journalist, so he doesn't count.
When the next Fox debate comes around Trump should decline and hold his own live event with some q&a etc... It will probably be watched by more people.
The tit lady.
Megyn Kelly on Howard Stern: Talks about penises, her breasts and sexual activity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCyI2_i-Xx8
O'Reilly made a comment last week about the planned parenthood stuff "If there is a creator, he's not going to like this" They have day time panel/magazine shows that are trashier than the non-news-network day time stuff. The "more outgoing" "jornalists" talking about their pre-marital sexual advertures in completely random moments. Then in the next segments talking about the importance of being good married people and loving their children, and the american values that make us all execptional. (the right to kill brown people on the otherside of the world) then you got the old "alpha" dudes threatening to kick other news peoples asses, and lately their fellow fox reporters. Chaptered by the "seeeerious" news programs.
Bread and cicuses folks. And the lady is protesting just enough to see if people will watch her show at night instead of reading blogs and watching the infinitely better news sources on youtube. For free.
O'Reilly is my last hope for Fox. Hannity did fine on his post-debate interviews, but Fox must have talked to him - he said nothing about the unfair questions on Friday. Does Hannity not see what most of America saw? Or is he being squeezed by Fox to stay quiet.
I dislike O'Riley and his partner in crime dennis miller very much. Especially when they get into their "kill the brown people schticks." I don't know those people over there enough to like or dislike like them. I just know I can't afford to pay for it, especially after the 6 trillion we already spent and hundreds of thousands of innocent lives.
I saw the same thing you saw WRT hannity and all the similar on all the other networks including this morning. I really think they did not want this trump thing to go as far as it has. They are trying to get the other candidates in peoples minds but it isn't working.
What is really pathetic is they keep going to Kasic with deer in the headlight eyes, trying to get him to be a Regan type figure to jab/joke/make Trump heel. He is either incapable, unwilling, or enjoying toying with them. The big 3 (Chuck Todd, Stephanoplis, and the fox news sunday dudes) are genuinely anxious.
The media is realizing that a large % of the people know they are nothing but shills and liars. They demonize Trump at every chance and people aren't listening. They seem genuinely confused. It's funny to see them squirm. There is a lot of anger out here
Trump/ex-Playboy bunny who now day trades
She could arm wrestle the Hildabeast
SurveyMonkey isn't worth snot. These results would be worth discussing, it they came from any kind of marginally reliable source.
Before the debate we were seeing new polling every day, sometimes two or three times a day, especially from fox. Now you can't find any, until now. How much is fox/the republican establishment paying to suppress the polls showing trump on top?
You got that shit correct. Lies Lies and damn lies.
Like who? MSM? Get intelligent.
These were the candidates who did well in the debate -- Bush and Walker dropped back after lackluster debate performances. From the list, I would say NONE of the above are approved by the Republican establishment.
The Trumpster did achieve one huge thing with this comments on Megyn Kelly - along with help from RedState, Trump took ALL the other candidates off the front page and slowed any post-debate momentum they may have had.
And while RedState invited Megyn Kelly to speak -- I doubt she showed up. If Fox lets her in front of any public forum over the next few months she will get a very LOUD chorus of BOOs!
El Combo Donaldo is going all the way........
Better stock the White House with some big combs......
He is gonna need some.
STill a wee bit concerned of the ZH article a couple days ago that he just may be broke after perusing his 92 page financials..
Americans are sick of the same old bullshit candidates saying the same bullshit lies they have always said. People know the lies are for the election and nothing they claim to do will be done. It will be more Banker power, more imperial wars, mosre government spending on useless shit, more open borders, more war.
Look, a candidate like Trump is off the wall, but people want to take Trump and his refusal to kiss media ass, and stick it right in the liar media's faces. If Trump starts calling the media women, who wear all the makeup and tight dresses to ask questions, a bunch of whores, I too might vote Trump! Just to piss off media.
Let me write the next page of this -- 'Poor little Megyn is going to go into hiding because she got some Twitter threats from those nasty Trump suppporters'...
I think she may have balls to rival Hillary, cuz she's in the open fields of fire and Hillary is doing her nails or sompin'
El Donaldo will mount this on th White House.
The Don just refuses to back down to these twits in the the media. He hasn't and can't do anything as greasey and slimebally as the Hildabeast and Bill.
I don't know anyone who is voting for Hitlery accept a handful of die-hard FSA people who thik she'll protect or increase their medicaid/EBT/Section 8/etc handouts. And most Pubic-cans shudder when they hear Jeb open his mouth. How did that guy win guvnor of Florida I'll never know.
It's going to be a knockout victory for The Don by default.
Knockout? No it won't. There's a lot of Democrats that will vote for Hillary just because she in the party, she was fucked over by her hubby, she's got ".gov" leadership qualifications (to them) and because she's a white woman.
MANY older Americans will vote for her, especially in the Dem states.
"How did that guy win guvnor of Florida I'll never know."
Florida is the most corrupt state in the nation$
I used to live in NY. Now I live in FL. Compared to Albany, Tallahassee is a shining example of governmental virtue.
Funny both states are packed like sardines with Jews....but I'm sure that is just coincidence...
This is what the Rinos stoop down to.
Megyn Kelly on Howard Stern: Talks about penises, her breasts and sexual activity.
Paused about thinking of breast implants. Karl Rove's plan of taking down Trump failed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCyI2_i-Xx8
Karl Rove is the essence of evil. He thinks he's a Christian but Christ rejects his very being....If ever he can 'perceive' that truth, he may obtain salvation. But for now, he works the plan of Satan himself....P.S. I'm not a Christian nor do I blindly follow the religions of man...
Oh no, not sexual activity! What could possibly be more disgusting!
Take Jesus' dick out of your ass.
Trump still requires a running mate that has at least some vague clue as to how foreign policy is managed.
Fiorina is just another 1% corporatist dunce with a resume of failure. She can't balance the ticket. Americans are not gonna vote for a blatantly corporatist ticket. I'm not surprised that She polled well after the debates as she is the only women in the Republican field atm and the Fem vote is hungry to have it's 'Our turn' moment on both sides of the isle.
Trump won't bother with Palin's idiocy. She has already said enough patently brainless things. She abandoned her seat in Alaska. Trump is not foolish enough to give the MSM any more ammo by allowing Palin and her handlers to latch on.
IMHO, Trump won't bother to court the fem vote now that he's been slugged by the first women to ask him a question at a debate. The Fems blew any chance of fillng the ticket with this FOX debacle.
Trump needs foreign policy/MIC cred badly.
I still think Buchannan is about as good as it gets and I'd favor him over Trump; but, Donald has the money and is gonna call the shots...
IMHO, they are both too tempramental for one another so discussion of the pairing is moot really.
It would amount to proposing the marriage of an alligator and a tasmanian devil.
I think that Trump will pick a big strong MIC/security apparatus type to mollify the Fem and on-board the praetorian class.
Who has eyes on Tom Ridge?
If he does get the republican nomination. He will pick one of the existing youngsters for VP Cruz, Rubio, but most likely Rand Paul or Fiorino.
America is mob rule. Trumps brand is "mentoring" apprentices. There are over 100,000 poople who work in the state department, 200,000 DOD. a million one step removed policy wonks and think tank beta fish to do the "foriegn policy/MIC" stuff. The modern preatorian class just wants to get paid. They don't need an old battle axe to call sentimental nick names out of nostalgia. Trump is not going to waste the VP slot on somebody who can not work congress, setting up deals and favors that will last beyond his presidency.
Yep
That would be exactly two people: u'n Tom Ridge, unless of course YOU are Tom Ridge.
So a reddie on ya even b4 I got to the above good statements.
- Ned
How about Rubio? People seem to like "firsts" these days, how about the "first hispanic vice president"?
Rubio speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He works for the money; not the people.
That is correct, and if you were paying close attention to what he was saying during his much publicised "How is Hillary going to lecture me about living from pay check to pay check" tirade, he let something slip:" Until just four years ago, I had over $100k in student loans". Must be nice to be able to pay off that kind of debt in just four years. Don't suppose he had any help do you?
Rubio is not an eligible natural born Citizen, since neither of his parents were US citizens at the time Marco was born.
The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Minor v. Happersett, 88 US 162, 167 (1875)
Are Kenyans exempt?
yes, and read the end-piece of his "first" "autobiography"
Foreign policy does not need 'managed'. It needs a complete makeover. I'm surprised you are not able to see that.
I thought Ridge was busy teaching fascism 101 at some university
The ol' revolving door...
He might be adjunct with mr hanky at the University of Chicago most emiterous chair of hank paulson economics school of Keynesian thought and tanks on the streets phd program for the future investment bankers of 'merica f*ck yeah.
Same thing as fascism 101.
Foreign policies, here is a beginning: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11775145/Dona...
What's funny is the establishment beltway cunts have no idea how pissed off the people are. The present us this Jeb Bush, such a miserable little mealy mouth pussified prick and want us to say yeah yeah Jeb's our man. I will support anyone who thumbs their nose at the DC cunts. I will never again vote for the least of two evils. Present me shit and I stay home. Fuck You
...just goes to show how bad the Republicans SUCK. The just can't figure out that they suck so bad they have near ZERO support from the general population. I just love the fact that they are clueless regarding Trumps popularity.
for sure, The Wench of Stench and Jeb the Dunce won't be on 11/16 ballot. if trump keeps pedal to metal he's next potus or kingmaker.
And then let the gods have mercy on this Republic's soul.
- Ned
This Republic??? We haven't been a "Republic" since 1913.
The jury is still out on Trump. Is he in just to split the ticket so Hillary can win? Is he in because he is broke and needs the money? Is he in because he really thinks as a businessman that he can win it?
so what?
We don't even have to wait 300 years to have our Idiocracy President Camacho. Man, Murcans are fucking retarded!
If anyone caught Jeb Bushes answer on the common core question, it would be enough to remove him from dogcatcher consideration. Mealy mouth little prick
Imagine the fun if Donald Trump just showed up, stood without speaking, and he stayed ahead in the polls :D.
Trump has them all beat on entertainment value alone plus the concept that something is better than nothing.
Please, Donald, collect all the populists, bullies, mental midgets, assholes, cop fellators, racists, and other detritus of society together, and suck them out of the GOP. Maybe then it might be a real party again instead of a clownshoes amalgamation of losers.
And this poll is already the manipulated version, go figure.
Billary wins easily, handily ... it will not be remotely in doubt. It isn't now. Not saying it's good, just saying what is.
I keep asking myself, what is the Hegelian Dialectic being set up here?
I will save some folks a click or two;
an interpretive method, originally used to relate specific entities or events to the absolute idea, in which some assertible proposition(thesis) is necessarily opposed by an equally assertible and apparently contradictory proposition (antithesis) the mutual contradiction being reconciled on a higher level of truth by a third proposition (synthesis)
The world is laughing at you America because of Donald Trump. The once mighty America is truly in decline when this reprehensible person could be even considered as a leader.
I think the sheep are needing a hug.
I will vote for Trump just to stick my middle finger [of both hands by the way] up the ass of RINO establishment DC Pundits & Pols and their advisors; you hearin' me Karl Rove and all you other pricks who think you own the party. I didn't leave you, you left me by being Emperor Goebbels "Lite". Exit question: How could Trump be worse than the "empty suit" run by Soros et al that's in the WH now? Fuck it, I hate all of you bastards.
www.traderzoo.mobi
I don't find anything about Trump more absurd than the crackhead narcissistic prick currently residing in the white house
Well said.
Well, certainly the bar you raise is not too high.
At least no one can say the repukelican party is only comprised of straight, white males anymore, anyone else notice that top five list: Two Hispanics, one black, one woman and one straight white guy. Too bad Lindsay Graham wasn't included in the list, then we could have added a homo. Now that's diversity!
We don't need any more fucking lawyers in the WH/Senate/Congress!
Fiorina
I believe it was old Rush Limbaugh who observed that the media wll always tell you who they fear the most.
Guess who they least want to get the Republican nomination?
Let's just call him the Hilary's bloody bushwhacker.
That flamboyant screwball will crash soon and Ben Carson will be the Republican candidate.
Not that anyone is going to read this, but Trump is playing "the woman card" perfectly in that (like a script) he is sucking up the oxygen of any "bad economy" campaign for any other contender and replacing it with this fake snarky "anti-woman" perception which is EXACTLY what the Democrats in Chicago and Google have in store for the Clinton Campaign.
This is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Again. Maybe Trump is just a flash in the pan and it will be all over by January.
But. You can raise a lot of money running for President and even a billionaire "independent" like Trump is Hillary's Pepsi to her Coke.
The election must be framed by something nonsensical - like gender - rather than on facts of corporate control and endless wars.
So far all this "press" about "trump degrades women" plays into Democrat hands so beautifully it must have been planned years in advance.
The "election" must be framed by gender as anything else has no rational basis for support (for either party).
G_d help us all.
I would estimate it at 50%, not (manipulated) 23%.
Hmmm, so where are the establishment's preferred candidates Jeb and Walker? Jeb wandered off to find some "act of love" illegals?
Ben Carson & Donald Trump are the only 2 in the field who are NOT members of the bureaucratic establishment. The other candidates talk BORING BUREAUCRAT talk. Fiorina talks it better than the others. Carson & Trump don't speak it at all. When either of those men talk they tell how the vast bureaucratic state effects lives of people oppressed by bureaucrats. Trump & Carson tell how corrupt & self-serving the rotten U.S. government bureaucracy has become--all of it--federal-state-county-city. Tear it all out. Reform. Rebuild.
Trump is a Democrat and always has been. He is the anti-vote for Republicans against a pool of canidates that for the most part represent what's wrong with the current party. Centrists, who play the same songs over and over but when examined are seen for the phonies they are. Jeb Bush is the worst of them representing what both parties have become: New World Orderists. So when you see Trump leading in the poles, his rhetoric, his stance stands out within a pool of uniformity of crap and vomit. The question is whether those same poled realize he is also not the answer.
Trump is a Democrat and always has been. He is the anti-vote for Republicans against a pool of canidates that for the most part represent what's wrong with the current party. Centrists, who play the same songs over and over but when examined are seen for the phonies they are. Jeb Bush is the worst of them representing what both parties have become: New World Orderists. So when you see Trump leading in the poles, his rhetoric, his stance stands out within a pool of uniformity of crap and vomit. The question is whether those same poled realize he is also not the answer.