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The Assault On Donald Trump Shows That The "2 Party System" Is Really A "1 Party System"
Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
Were you sickened by the Republican debate the other night? The hype leading up to the debate was unbelievable. Never before had there been so much interest in a debate this early in an election season, and it turned out to be the most watched program on Fox News ever. A record-shattering 24 million Americans tuned in, and what they witnessed was an expertly orchestrated assault on Donald Trump. From the very first moments, every question that was launched at Trump was an “attack question”. And then the laughable “focus group” that followed was specifically designed to show that “ordinary people” were “changing their minds” about Trump. By the end of the evening, it was abundantly clear that Fox News had purposely intended to try to destroy Trump’s candidacy.
And of course Fox News is far from alone. Every mainstream news outlet in the entire country is running anti-Trump news stories every single day. Virtually every other presidential candidate in both parties is attacking him, and virtually every “political expert” from across the political spectrum is trashing his chances of success.
So why is this happening?
Normally, candidates that are not part of the “establishment” do not pose much of a threat. In order to win elections in this country, especially on a national level, you need name recognition and you need lots and lots of money.
Donald Trump has both, and no matter what you may think of him you have to admit that he has star power.
And he was never supposed to run for president. You see, the truth is that only members of “the club” are allowed to play. The elite very carefully groom their candidates, and they are usually able to maintain a very tight grip on both major political parties.
This two-headed abomination that we call a “two party system” is in reality just a one party system. Yes, many Democrats and many Republicans really do hate one another, but at the end of the day there is very little difference between the two parties. That is why nothing ever really seems to change no matter who gets elected. George W. Bush continued almost all of Bill Clinton’s policies, and Barack Obama has continued almost all of George W. Bush’s policies. When they are running for office, they tell us what they think we want to hear, but once they get to D.C. they do exactly what the establishment wants them to do.
Donald Trump, whether you love him or you hate him, is a threat to this system. He is not controlled by the elite, and he does and says all sorts of things that drive the elite absolutely nuts.
If he was polling below 5 percent that wouldn’t be a problem. At first, the mainstream media attempted to portray him as a joke that would never get any real support. But since then, Trump has proven that he is a serious candidate with some very serious ideas about how to fix this country. Now that he is receiving far, far more support than the establishment choice (Jeb Bush), he must be destroyed.
I can promise you right now that the Republican establishment will pull out every dirty trick in the book to keep Donald Trump from getting the Republican nomination.
And if Donald Trump runs as an independent, the elite will move heaven and earth to keep him out of the White House.
This isn’t even just about Trump. If Ben Carson starts getting too much support, he will be destroyed too. This is how presidential elections in America work.
What we witnessed during the Fox News debate the other night was not an accident. The goal was to make Jeb Bush look good and to make Donald Trump look bad. The following comes from Mike Adams…
But the one thing that really stood out was the total fraud of what Fox News pulled off. It was clear from the first five minutes that Fox News had pre-arranged softball questions for Jeb Bush to highlight his “heroic actions” and accomplishments. Meanwhile, the kinds of questions directed to Donald Trump were all thinly veiled accusations and insults, designed to attack Trump on issues that had nothing to do with running the country.
The typical questions went something like this: (paraphrased)
Fox News: “Jeb Bush, how did you get to be such an amazing leader?”
Fox News: “Donald Trump, why do you hate women?”
As if a debate with totally contrived questions wasn’t enough, Fox News also had a pre-arranged assembly of apparently “ordinary citizens” who were asked, after the debate, how many of them now hated Donald Trump.
And even when “the debate” was over, the assault continued. If you have not seen the disgraceful “focus group interview” which Frank Luntz orchestrated, you can check it out below…
I just about fell out of my chair when I saw that.
Virtually everyone in the “focus group” that Frank Luntz put together supposedly had a positive view of Donald Trump before the debate, and then almost every single one of them supposedly become Trump haters during the course of the two hour debate.
I am sure that they were hoping that everybody in the viewing public would “come to their senses” and become Jeb Bush supporters.
But of course post-debate polling shows that is not happening at all.
The Drudge Report conducted a flash poll immediately following the debate, and a whopping 44.67 percent of those that responded said that Trump won the debate.
Ted Cruz was in second place with 14.31 percent.
Jeb Bush got a measly 2.07 percent.
A Newsmax survey came up with similar results…
- Donald Trump: 38 percent
- Ted Cruz: 15.5 percent
- Neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson: 10.2 percent
- Florida Sen. Marco Rubio: 9.7 percent
- Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul: 9.3 percent
- Ohio Gov. John Kasich: 4.9 percent
- Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker: 4.5 percent
- Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee: 3.5 percent
- Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush: 2.5 percent
- New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie: 1.4 percent
And a survey conducted by Time Magazine also produced similar findings. Donald Trump got 47 percent, Ben Carson was in second place with 11 percent, and Jeb Bush got 4 percent.
But Donald Trump is not going to be the Republican nominee.
Unless something goes horribly, horribly wrong for the Republican establishment, Jeb Bush is going to be the nominee.
We have a system that is deeply, deeply broken and that does not reflect the will of the people.
This was illustrated by one of the questions that Trump was asked during the debate…
BAIER: Mr. Trump, it’s not just your past support for single-payer health care. You’ve also supported a host of other liberal policies….You’ve also donated to several Democratic candidates, Hillary Clinton included, and Nancy Pelosi. You explained away those donations saying you did that to get business-related favors. And you said recently, quote, “When you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.”
TRUMP: You’d better believe it.
BAIER: — they do?
TRUMP: If I ask them, if I need them, you know, most of the people on this stage I’ve given to, just so you understand, a lot of money.
TRUMP: I will tell you that our system is broken. I gave to many people, before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And do you know what? When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me. And that’s a broken system.
The really amazing thing is that nobody up on that stage disputed that what Trump was saying was true.
It is very well understood by our politicians that when they get big checks from the elite for their campaigns that certain things are expected from them in return.
Our government does not reflect the will of the people and it hasn’t for a very long time.
Instead, it reflects the will of the elite, and the American people are getting sick and tired of it.
Right now, surveys show that Donald Trump has far more support than any other Republican candidate.
But he is not going to be the Republican nominee. The Republican establishment will make sure of that.
There is still the possibility that Trump could run as an independent. That would be an extremely tough road, but on Sunday he sounded very open to the possibility…
The political hurricane that is Donald Trump didn’t recede over the weekend, even in the face of a rising tide of criticism from Republican rivals about his attack on Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly.
Instead, the celebrity billionaire insisted in a string of interviews on Sunday TV shows that he had done nothing wrong, that “only a deviant” would interpret his words in an offensive way, and that he is leaving open the possibility of running an independent campaign for the White House if the GOP doesn’t treat him “fairly.”
“I do have leverage and I like having leverage,” Trump declared on CBS’ Face the Nation on a morning that also included interviews with ABC’s This Week, CNN’s State of the Union and NBC’s Meet the Press.
This is a scenario that I discussed in my previous article entitled “Republican Operatives Plot To Sabotage Trump – But That Could Turn Him Into Their Worst Nightmare“. Personally, I believe that Donald Trump will decide to run as an independent when it becomes clear to him that the Republican establishment is going to prevent him from winning the nomination at all costs.
But I could be wrong.
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God bless Donald Trump and keep him and his family safe from harm.
I wonder when Donald will become a victim of "Work Place Violence".
Close...but I amagine it will be more along the lines of some maga bank lender threatening Trump with pulling their financing on one of his properties, or threatening him that the business is in default on a loan covenant, or pulling re-insurance from him etc.... thats how thelly get him out of the game and the only way to hurt him, with $$$$
AIPAC owns the US political system.
If Trump runs as a 3rd party, will the Republican nominee pull out if Trump is polling higher for the general election? Works both ways!
That would be hilarious to see. I think the election would end there. Clinton/Trump or Trump/Clinton. I don't think the two friends would have much problem sorting that out at their next get together.
This article is spot on. The elites have their hooks in all the other candidates, except Trump and he beats to the tune of his own drum. The elites are deathly afraid that he will not do what JPM and GS and the fed want, or at the very least be very disruptive to the establishment. They know he is not a one day or one week or not even a one month wonder. He is a thorn in their ass that will be very hard to get out.
The problem for Trump supporters (me included) is he is very easy to egg on and will say some explosive things that are not well thought out
The good thing about Trump is he is the right man for the right time. I think between now and Nov 2016 the worldss finanacial markets are going to take a shit, no ordinary shit, but the mother of all shits and he will be the best man without a doudt to negotiate our way through the turmoil. So he wins by a landslide. It is not going to be even close and beyond what any one can conceive of today.
where does trump stand on the fed? where does he stand on sound money? where does he stand on the war on drugs? where does he stand on the war on terror? where does he stand on the 1000+ bases overseas? where does he stand on the fair tax(or no tax, my preference), Where does he stand on tearing down the welfare state(which MUST include corporate welfare as well) , where does he stand on abolishing unconstitutional agencies like the depts of education, HUD, homeland security, EPA, etc?
If is is any different than the other more 'mainstream' candidates, please let me know. Because those are things I actually care about. All I have heard from him is him saying some very UN-PC things(which were true) and building a wall across our southern border. Those things alone do not make him a candidate worthy of the support of so many on here who stood behind Ron Paul last time. You guys need to pull your heads out of the clouds(or your asses...) and realize he is just another statist authoritarian
Rand Paul 2016, not the same as Ron but there is no way in hell that being raised by a man like Ron Paul doesn't rub off on you.
No doubt! Trump was sprinkled with democrat holy water. Enjoying the show till he pulls the trap door.
only 2 parties: constitutional pauls and everybody else.
Its neck deep now and the cheering is about to get drowned out, lol... sort of!
edit: if he laterals to jeb, i will not be surprised... bush trump'16
Well if it ever becomes Trump/Bush then probability says, based on past historical experience, that he should really look for a new VP...early in the first term if you know your history
There is a reason Trump rhymes with lump, dump, clump, pump AND DUMP...
;-) Still shocked at all the trump thumpers on this board....
Un-fucking believable....
Nice to see you on the boards ORI.
Point well taken
:)
Gracias palmer...and trump's candid Acey is beyond the pale...if I shake my head any more, it just might fall off...
With Trump being the King of Reality TV and hence (through being candidate for President) now being the King of Cognitive Dissonance makes for some serious meta-TV or meta-Reality...I'm not sure which...I think I lost track
lol
I have nothing against Trump. But he will eventually implode. The same thing happened to Ross Perrot.
Trump is not a 'threat to the system' - what a joke. Trump is only a threat to republican presidential ambitions. TV loves mocking him because it gets him all riled up and saying hilarious shit.
If trump wins nom ( he won't ) dem will win. A slice of pizza could run as dem against trump and still sweep.
By the time political machine really gets going trump will be purely sideshow.
Media is 'terrified' of trump, hence why cnn etc. feature interviews w/ him or opinion on him prominently 24/7.
It's all about the Voting process vs the strength of the Republic. "Today’s political climate is riven with discontent and mistrust of the institutions of government, yet apart from public discourse, the vote is still how we make our will known. Mistrust in lawmakers or institutions may be nearly endemic, but we still rely on the principle that they can be voted out. When our voting systems fail though, voters lose trust in the electoral process, and that is corrosive. Without that trust, our democracy could crumble."
And Mr. or Ms. Dream Candidate is?
Ed, can we have the envelope, please?
@ORI,
Shocked...why?
Trump = the Kardashian/Jender of the predatory parasitic political pimps of perverted diversion.
Still gotchur beLIEvers in Amerikka.
@greenskeeper carl
Here I was enjoying the theater and you had to get serious.
"But he is not going to be the Republican nominee. The Republican establishment will make sure of that."
The article has that spot on. Even if Trump got 99% favorable opinion, the Establishment would nix him. Proof is in the recent drubbing of Ron Paul. Anyone who dares to buck the corrupt system is given the chopping block. This is precisely why change will only come from without - not within the system. Had the original intent of the Founding Fathers been adhered to (a tiny Federal Government and more powerful sovereign states), this monstrosity never would have arisen. The creation of the Federal Reserve was the beginning of the end for this Republic when a bottomless well of counterfeit money could be doled out in the form of coersion and extortion to the states. It always comes back to the money... who issues it and thus - controls it. Whatever entity emerges from the coming chaos, this overarching situation must be addressed and rectified.
Trump can still run as an independent candidate... then they'll bring on the reliable Dibold machines to count the votes.
Spot on. You are absolutely correct. Either he is fortunate and gets "Ron Pauled"...or he is less fortunate and he gets "Breitbarted".
As I stated 2 weeks ago, They murdered Robert Kennedy, They threatened Ross Perot's family and he dropped out, They corrupted Ron Paul's delegate count...Donald Trump will be nuetralized through a major media attack.
I was on a Yahoo newsfeed and one of the many negative articles on Trump was written by Entertainment Tonight! I went on the comment section and wrote "Thank you but I didn't need Entertainment Tonight to help me with political analysis". Within 5 minutes the article was still there but the whole comment section had been removed like it never existed.
Did I get drunk and stumble onto Always Hedge? WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU PEOPLE! He's a fucking plant! Look at all the morons locked on to his renegade bullshit when they should be demanding answers from the bitch. As long as he's spewing his alpha trash she's chillin' under the radar. If he was legitimate, he would be IGNORED by the MSM. Ron Paul had thousands show up for his appearances and yet was refused airtime on these retarded "debates". I think I'll have another. Double.
I dont think you can drink enough these days. Truly the twilight zone now, in many ways.
Funny part is Donald Trump is likely to pull as many Democrats away as Republicans.
The Republicons AND the Decepticrats have been losing voting shares to the Independents for quite some time now.
Come on Tylers. We here expect you to be different than the msm. Everyday there are multiple trump articles. If the establishment really didn't like Trump and his poll numbers, they would ignore him like they did Ron Paul.
I keep thinking that today will be the day that at least here at ZH, Trump won't dominate the coverage. How about a Rand Paul article thrown in once in awhile. You know most of use here like guns and don't want them restricted. We also don't trust bankers and want the fed closed down.
I'm left to wonder how much money Tylers are getting from the establishment to appear like an alternative site.
Boohoo. Donald does not need anyone's money. Rose Perot met that criteria. We see what happened to him. He warned us. That sucking sound was the sound of our jobs. It's hardly time to ignore him when so many people are just waking up to the same.
Just be glad the wild-eyed lesbians and fags aren't featured in fullblown lip locks like creatures who have just escaped Hollywood - ISIS's US location. Now that, I could understand.
Just wait until you see who Trump "chooses" as his VP!
<< Just be glad the wild-eyed lesbians and fags aren't featured in fullblown lip locks like creatures who have just escaped Hollywood - ISIS's US location. >>
Wow, guess I should have read further before ranting. Well,...this is awkward. Like your style realmoney2015; always have. Cheers!
They will blame it on...El Chapo. maybe even build a tunnel under Trump Tower.
Unfortunately he probably owns a lot of nail guns.
Trump should change his mind on Snowden. Keep us all safe from the government.
He 'changes his mind' on a lot. Hopefully he has changed his mind on taking our guns.
Hopefully he changes his mind on Government provided healthcare.
Hopefully he changes his mind on property rights.
Hopefully he changes his mind on abusing government power to benefit 'private' business.
Hopefully he changes his mind on sending our youth and wasting our money on more wars.
And when he does, are you going to believe him
If you're holding out any "Hope" that Trump "Changes" his mind on Snowden I've got some health insurance and some companies you will be forced as a taxpayer to buy into.
Trump is the elite and part of the "system". So much so he's pro-Apartheid in IsraHell and pro-Fed.
Space lord mutha mutha 2016
It was an Obvious attack on Trump from the start and ongoing . Megan Kelly is a real feminist bitch. Fire that stupid twit Trump was not the one who jilted her so her anger was missguided . That women is an idiot and far stupid to realize she was fucking with the american people, tax payers, not just Trump. Boycott Fox and piss on both parties.
Megan Kelly is a real feminist bitch. Fire that stupid twit
Never going to happen. What you and everyone else should do is fire the cable/satellite company. It's easy to "cut the cord" by using a ROKU or other Internet streaming device. I cut the cord after receiving a ROKU Box as a gift from my son. I quickly realized what a shit load of money I was spending for a shit load of worthless channels. Stop supporting the government propaganda pipe that you spend way too much of your money on. I don't miss it as all the programming is shit compared to the 2,000 + channels available on a ROKU.
Forgive me but..... ROKU Box? Is that so you can..... watch television?
Why not just "cut the cord" and stop watching television?
Classic Internet Rant: "That women is an idiot."
She sure are!
Blame the messenger mentality, she is just doing the bidding of her overseers the Republican establishment.
Why bother, they have Diebold.
and yet they are afraid.
Very afraid of the monsters they have created.
i keep forgetting about the diebold with no z-tape.
lol really such a joke. paper ballots are too hard to count... in a whiney voice
http://youtu.be/dscfeQOMuGw
Rubbish.
This says nothing much about the Parties.
It says all you need to know about the New York media.
This says nothing much about the Parties.
Not 100% sure what you mean by that, but for me, the GOP is just another bunch of whores - EXACTLY like the whores that call themselves Demoncrats. Anyone who thinks there is actually a difference simply hasn't been paying attention. Their (GOP's) political assassination of Ron Paul was all I needed to see and experience to cast in stone that they hate America and the People just as much as any of the worst of the Communists in the DNC.
"This says nothing much about the Parties" A Ditto Head cover-up comment..
"witnessed was an expertly orchestrated assault on Donald Trump"
I enjoy watching Trump cause aggravation to the status quo so I admit I lean in his favor on this (though I will never, ever vote for him due to his support for the Fed and MIC), but it's overstating Fox's case to say the attack was "expertly ochestrated."
Fox has always been amateur hour, as are all of the cable news networks. But they all speak to an audience that isn't exactly cerebral. So they get away with it. Trump for good or bad has struck a nerve with the average Joe who is sick of the current system that would tell us that Bush and Clinton are foregone conclusions. Fox playing favorites to Jeb Bush while trying to marginalize Trump was so obvious that even a child could see it.
"Most of the people on this stage I've given to, a lot of money," Trump
You're right, it was easy to spot.
And so is your love for Bernie Sanders.
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By the way, I greened you. :)
I am quite honest that some of what Bernie says appeals to me, but I also call him out for thinking taxation is the primary answer to our problems. And I seem to recall he backed down on auditing the Fed. Doesn't matter anyway. He has as much chance of being the Blue Team nominee as Ron Paul has to be the Red Team nominee. I wrote in Paul last election. Won't bother with Bernie.
Bernie showed his (weak) hand at his rally over the weekend when he simply walked away when the #blackliesmatter sisters stormed the stage. He offered to shake their hand, smiled and just walked away. He's done.
Bernie's only chance of winning the nod is by offering more free shit than Hillary. And Hillary just promised free education to a new class of soon to be unemployed protesters so the weekend with Bernie is about over.
Sisters sent by Hillery and Soros.
Not the best example.
Not really news, of course its a one party system now.
Trump not committing to support whoever wins the Republican nomination was an obvious message to the GOP & Kock brothers to support him or he will run as an independent and take the GOP down along with the Kock brothers $Billion dollars
Then Hitlery can say "Mission accomplished, suckers!"
The only way to end the joo stranglehold on the USSA is to embrace the Muslim culture.
Shit sandwich or douchebag doesn't even begin to sum up your post.
Have you ever sucked Amish cock or do you only suck joo cock?
Hey Rand, thanks for your reply.
I'm partial to Amish cock. They don't use growth hormones. Hey, wait a minute....
I got a hormone for you Rand. Ya English fuck.
The great thing about the Amish is that they keep to themselves and practice their own beliefs, and don't try to push their beliefs on everyone else.
I thought electricity was taboo for the Amish which would make posting difficult. Perhaps the rules have been relaxed.
Miffed
I guess there was no one on ZH who had an Amish persona before, and FinEng decided to fill the gap.
If he's trying to speak for an entire people - and isn't actually one of them - we just might see the first Amish cemetery barn, soon.
You are quite a fake. The real Amish would never support or embrace the Muslim Culture. Not to mention they don't use computers or even electricity. So why don't you just log out and leave the discussion to mature adults.
Feed the Pig. RealAmishMatters so STFU! Douche.
The Amish know what the fuck you English are up to. We own the very land that you seek to pervert.
Why don't you log out with a carelessly fired .40 into your mouth!
That might kill Tyler. We can't have that.
Is the chick sitting next to you your sister or your wife, or both? I see alot of Amish in Chicago - them seem awestruck by the big buildings and expanded gene pool. They do make great funiture (although very expensive) and great preserves.
This is horse shit. This guy has no interest in doing anything but lining his pockets and getting his palatial ego stroked. That zh wasted article space on this doucher is beyond me.
Did you mean Hillary?
Gore Vidal
Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.
H. L. Mencken
Screw you Fox news. You are not an "alternative" news station. You are a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Fox is by far the highest rated cable news network on television, and has been for a long time. What amazes me is that they can still get away with calling themselves alternative media. Kind of like how Limbaugh still plays the "little old me" card and people buy it. It's nice to see people finally waking up to this. To the exent the Donald in all of his narcissistic glory brought the truth to light that Fox is an arm of the oligarchs, he's done us all a service.
I think Limbaugh is being facetious when he says it, but yes.
Trump may very likely be the nominee. The "establishment" can't control him, but they are fearful and scared out of their wits and if he manges not to hang himself (and it is a strong possibility that he wil with: "the holocaust never happened", "Aliens have visited the United States but the government will..." wait what am I saying he'd even survive this. Okay he eats human flesh on TV then that would do it) then they will eventually come to him and will be, in the words of G.G. “sucking my [Trump's] knee caps”. Can he be bought? No. He is insecure and fearful, of a lot of things and he is as paranoid as the day is long. They can suck his knee caps but he's off the rails and look for Omarosa Manigualt-Stallworth to be his VP running mate.
Amarosa would kill any chance of him getting mu vote.
I'm 100% for Jeb Bush's head being spiked on a pike. Joined by the heads of every POSED* and every POSER** and their rich masters and their families. I loathe and despise every last member of the supposed two-party system. What a farce that is. Spiking their heads onto pikes is far, far too good of a fate for them!
*POSED—Pile Of Stinkin' Excrement Democrat
**POSER—Pile Of Stinkin' Excrement Republican
I will vote for him and send money if needed. Just to fuck with them...
The rich, their POSEDs* and POSERs*, the Corporations and the elites are the enemy of the American People. Rupert Murdoch is a member of the rich oligarchy. He and FOX News are mortal enemies of the American People. They and their entire families must be destroyed to save America and the American People.
*POSEDs—Pile Of Stinkin' Excrement Democrats
**POSERs—Pile Of Stinkin' Excrement Republicans
Fuck every last one of the, with a rusty bayonet! Then spike their heads on pikes around the DC beltway! Sic semper tyrannis!
Hm ? I love it let's do a third party! Sick of the old shit anyway! TRUMP!
You may not believe in Class Warfare. But, you had better believe that the rich are sure as Hell waging Class Warfare against the American People! They are doing through the Bush's, the Clinton's, the buffoon Affirmative Action Barry Soetoro, and all the rest of the POSEDs* and POSERs** in the One-Party Dictatorship.
*POSEDs—Pile Of Stinkin' Excrement Democrats
**POSERs—Pile Of Stinkin' Excrement Republicans
Ten bucks says if Trump got into office (which would never happen) and Bush was his vice that he would end up in a wheelchair with a pen taped to his hand and kept out of sight.... like they probably did to Reagan. I am not huge fan of Reagan but when your vice pres used to run the CIA things are probably not going to go very well for you. In this case it would be the son of the guy who used to run the CIA.
The CIA is the first organization that needs to be abolished, it is the deep state.
"The CIA is the first organization that needs to be abolished, it is the deep state"....
That's exactly what JFK tried and look what happened to him.
Yes, that was the third agency that Rick Perry wanted to abolish, but he couldn't remember it.
The people hate politicians. No honest man has a chance against them. They lie, steal, take bribes, have no morals, and certainly some of them have even murdered. Trump is no angel, be he is not a life time POS politician. He only is on top because he is one ruthless SOB. He is the king of self promotion, and his competition SUCKS! The rupublicans and democrats have ran the country in the fucking ground for the last 100 years. They gave away the power to coin money and regulate it to a bunch of Satanist bankers. Trump, if he is not a plant, will end up in the white house or dead or both.
Gee, just about everyone I talk to likes him an dmost are saying he has thier vote ... so those other guys have an uphill battle. I'm sure they'll look for any dirt on him since they cannot beat him fairly. If he chooses Ted Cruz he might increase his chances.
So there you have it. Even daring to question a member of the 1% is classified as an assault.
Fuck DDonald Trump and the silver spoon he was born with. He's the perfect Republican nominee. An asshole in a party filled with them.
Trump will NEVER be allowed to become President.
(1) All elections in the United States are rigged with predetermined winners;
(2) Hillary has already been elected;
(3) I do not believe that Trump is suicidal, but if he is;
(4) Trump will be suicided were the impossible to occur with him elected to the Presidency;
Don't labor under the illusion that Trump will somehow save America. It ain't never going to happen! Only concerted ACTION by the American People can save America! Don't participate in fraudulent elections! Take action NOW People of America!
well if they are ALL shit, at least vote for one in who can kick asses by telling it like it is. the other baboons are useless and clueless-Paul has already been asked to leave the game
Great write up here! Agree 100%.
Nobody in their right mind would want to be President in 2016. The debate looked like a mixture of the Miss America pageant and Jerry Springer and the 'contestants' all pretty much deserve to be in charge when it all turns to shit and gets on everybody. But if Trump can make America believe that he's worth $10 billion then maybe he can convince America it's not bankrupt. I need those plates kept spinning to give me more prep time. I was late to get my wakeup call.
I've been saying for years that a representative democracy no longer functions properly because of self-serving, lying, corrupt politians. The only pure democracy is a Direct Democracy. If you don't know what a Direct Democracy is, google it. Switzerland has had a Direct Democracy for over 150 years and is recognized as the most democratic country in world.
There are holes in your theory about the Swiss.
How long were you waiting to use that one?
George Washington turning troops on Americans during the Whiskey Rebellion ended Democracy.
Switzerland is also a HOMOGENOUS country..shared, language, history, race, beliefs, traditions.,the USSA Comprised of reality TV watching, gangsta rapping, angry and bitching about every single aspect of life..we are not ONE country we are a bunch of huge left leaning city states mixed into regions that more often made up of over 100 ethnic, religious, racisl groups who HATE our history, refuse to speak the language, and have more traditions than Sybil had personalities. Think about it..Obamaphone ladies, clueless 20 something females about as bright as 10 watt bulb and vrry rich .001 and a dozen immigrant groups that always vote left they elected Obama..that is what you will continue to get with direct democracy Too late to save the country..we are going down..no matter what man or woman is elected. Best we can hope, whoever is elected can keep the ship away from the rocks till the storm passes..but am not holding my breath on that score.
Jeb Bush is such a cunt they can't sell him to the people.
It’s really Trump Vs Bush.
The only way Bush can win against Hillary is Bush gives citizenship to all the Illegals Obama let in to America.
"A record-shattering 24 million Americans tuned in"
Yes, of course they did. These 24 million can be counted on to think as one hive mind. Trained for years by the FOX news system. Nobody does mind control or propaganda like FOX. They have perfected a system that can call on it's faithful. That number is just about 25 Million American true believers, who actually think FOX is news and is fair and balanced. To make a mental leap like that requires a fully engaged Orwellian Double Think mind, to be able to deny any reality that is not politically correct for the FOX brand of conservatism. A mixture of mainline Dixie www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaeu3f_j9Vc, and:
A total slavish belief in corporate supermacy and the military industrial empire. Along with deep hate for non whites and non conservative Christians.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind this bunch. But I do believe it is fair to point out their beliefs, and FOX's power over their minds.
And who would have ever guessed that a casino owning real estate magnate who calls himself the most "militaristic" guy in history would be the one to successfully peel off the Fox veneer. It's a crazy world.
We have the Trumpster and the group of LOSERS. The problem for corporate media, including Fox, the GOP and Dems is that voters are tired of the same old story and “pay to play” politics. At least Trump says it like it is and this is reason he is leading in polls. The more corpotate media goes after Trump, the more popular he is going to be. See: www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/10/swan-song-for-the-donald-gop-party-bosse...
The Matrix will never allow an outsider to become president. Look at 95 percent of the press photos used - they all make Trump look like a loon. EXACTLY the same thing they did with Ron Paul a couple years ago. The military industrial complex together with jewish controlled high finance + main stream media want to make absolutelty sure nobody will spoil their nice little racket (enslavement of the US population).
Trump is an outsider?
One has only to reflect on the TEA party movement in which I was involved back a few years. The establishment ganged up to attack the TEA party. The majroity of the meetings I was involved in dealt with educating people on the Constitution, trying to explain the economics of the national debt and organizing candidate debates in order to understand the politicos up for election and to hold them accountable for their promise (lies). God forbid. The Kochs weren't around with bags of cashola.
The TEA party was attacked by the Democrats of course, the MSM, the President who would have thought, the Republican establishment which was a double take, then the systemic bureaucracy like the IRS and other alphabet agencies depending on the percieved "offender". When the whole system comes down on your head, you go hide. Which I chose to do, but I still support as best I can those that will undermine this corrupt, criminal system that is "governing us". I like Donald for his bombast and Cruz for his substance even with his wifey resigning from the squid. Cruz doesn't like the Progressive establishment and I hate them. They are killing the brand called America.
I was doing the same thing and saw what you're describing. Makes me hate the establishment.
The article is on the money (imo). The same exact thing happened to Pat Buchanan in 1996 after he won the New Hampshire GOP Primary. The GOP establishment pulled out one dirty trick after another to crush him while they supported Bob Dole.
Likewise Ron Paul.
https://youtu.be/_JEvxOdMWOU
Btw, imho, Pat Buchanan would have made a great president. It's too bad he is now too old to run again.
I think the incident the other night shows the error of a political party going to bed with e news organisation owned by a foreigner. Big mistake.
The Assault On Donald Trump Shows That The "2 Party System" Is Really A "1 Party System"
The ZWO party.
I'm not so sure that Trump is not controlled by the elite. They are getting better and better with the fake anti-establishment candidates. If he wins the election, we'll know that he is another puppet.
Donald Trump's love does not pay my bills, I want money, that's what I want.
Like, who didn't know this 20 - 30 years ago?
If this theater continues, Then I can see the army taking over.
Once again the sheeple have had the wool pulled over their eyes. The Donald is the elite, supported by the elite with his reality show, beauty pageant and New York real estate. The establishment opposition to him is to convince you that a member of the elite is not elite and a man of the people. During the debate, Trump told everybody how he buys politicians thus proving he is part of the establishment. The elite know that the people want a maverick, and that is exactly what they are giving us. Trump is a fraud.
I'll vote for Donald Trump even if I have to write his name on my ballot!!
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Any further corporate governmental intervention into any matter regarding any activity in any of the several states related to the Respublica of Earth, United States of America is now considered a Breach of the Peace.
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Tea Party [bowel] movement sellout in 3...2...1.
WOW, Mikey you just found out? You do realize that your SPECIAL FRIENDS are the ones who OWN both parties don't you?
Lindsey Graham (Traitor – SC) Confirms: AdelZuck, Not GOP Primary, What Matters.
Criteria #1 To Win Sheldon Adelson Primary: Not Being A True American
Why Was The Republican Jewish Coalition’s Adelson Primary So Secretive?
Lindsey Graham Boasts Of Being Bribed To Betray GOP Base On Immigration
Republican Jewish Coalition Attracting “Socially Liberal” Jews
Undeported Mexican Illegal Alien Criminal Is Arrested for Rape-Murder of 64 year old White woman in Central California
A Year After Ferguson, Another Bright Idea From GOP Elite—Go Soft on Crime!
Ann Coulter Right, Fred Reed Wrong, On Mexico’s Age Of Consent (And Litter)
And Mikey to help you further understand how the America we loved and knew was destroyed:
Mass Immigration Eats Through The Melting Pot
March 04, 2004 By the late Sam Francis
Mugging Americans: ObamaCare’s Jonathan Gruber And Norbert Schlei Of The 1965 Immigration Act
Review of THE CULTURE OF CRITIQUE
Jewish groups celebrate Supreme Courts legalization of gay marriage nationwide, Jerusalem Post
Lutheran pastor says Jews to blame for destroying Christian values after US approves gay marriage, Jerusalem Post
I know it is a lot of reading and might take you a half-hour, especially if you move your lips while reading, but you might find out WHAT REALLY HAPPENED to our nation.
Don't forget the Reforms were outfront in their supportr for Med Pot.
The purpose of Donald Trump is to get Hillary elected.
Better if Trump didn't pick any of those other stooges up on stage as a running mate.
Would just be an excuse for Trump's helicopter to fall out of the sky so TBTB get their right man in.
Anyone who thinks Trump is not part of the "establishment" is a fucking moron.
This article is pure fail.
Sorry Trump wont change anything. It's going to take a real lunatic to bring change but only when things get bad enough for the illusion that things are ok to drop.
The US is still the richest country in the world, cheap food and cheap consumer products.
It will really have to get worse than Greece IMO and if there is no election when they pull the rug from the global economy then your local military police force will be there to make sure you stay in line.
Personally, I believe that Donald Trump will decide to run as an independent when.....
Too late. It has already been decided. He's Hillary's little helper.
Trumpster update. Here’s where the GOP stands according to the poll:
Donald Trump (23%)
Ted Cruz (13%)
Ben Carson (11%)
Carly Fiorina (8%)
Marco Rubio (8%)
Jeb Bush (7%)
Scott Walker (7%)
Rand Paul (5%)
Mike Huckabee (5%)
Rick Perry (2%)
John Kasich (2%)
Chris Christie (1%)
Lindsey Graham (1%)
Bobby Jindal (1%)
Rick Santorum (0%)
George Pataki (0%)
Link: www.towleroad.com/2015/08/fiorina-cruz-surge-in-gop-post-debate-poll-while-trump-maintains-lead/
Note: Carly Fiorina was CEO of HP and during Ms. Fiorina’s tenure, H-P stock lost half its value. Point made!
Glad to see the top 5 are now correctly in order.
want to run for president? Got 100 million dollars to start your campain? This country is on the back side of the hill. It began in the Great Society. I lived thru forced bussing. 1972 i was in high school. Kids who gave two shits about learing forced to go to school with kids who did. Fuck color. It was our government. Affirmative Action? I lost a game warden job as a young man because a man of color had preferential treatment. A job I wanted for my whole young life at that time. Fuck color. It was our government. I managed people of color in commercial restaurant and hotel and restaurant situations. Some of these establishments were over 6 million a year operations. I have been called everything a white man can be called by people of color,,, and if I ever dared retaliate in kind, I would be the one on the street looking for work. Fuck color. It is our government. In debt to the bankers with mortgage, insurance, interest for 30 years. Not color. The FIRE industry. Did it crash due to government and banking intervention due to color? Um, get back with me. WE are so far gone in to political correctness there is no righting this ship. I heard on the radio today that Target Stores is no longer selling gender specific baby clothes in blue and pink due to customer complaints. See ,,, the sex you were born is now optional. REally?
Think who is president is going to turn all that around? We need two one legged Asian lesbians who have adopbted and eskimo baby found in a raft on the Greenland Sea to run for president and VP. They would win. I am not sure what color the little eskimo baby would be wearing when they found him but it damn sure wouldnt be pink or blue.
We are well and truly fucked. If the Donald doesnt travel with a security team that knows what it is doing, he many need to do some hiring soon. Very soon. Sorry for the rant,, I am weary. Night all, go Ferguson. Stand down all peace officers for a week. Let the true colors shine. And don't bail them out. Again,, sleep well America. WE did have a chance at one time, no longer.
These black people were just taking advantage of a situation. You happened to get in the way. People given some absurd advantage will almost always take it.
This is the life blood of politicians. Get used to giving it.
They are standing by to take it. And it's not those black people who created this. It was the politicians that you "elected" (HA HA!) (NOT REALLY You have the old two-party, so no choice).
Ya'll really need to be careful about who you define as "elite". The current class of df's in the govt hierarchy don't qualify. A bunch of the media doesn't either. And our oligarchs are mostly a laughting stock. Sh*ithook would be a better moniker for most of them.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2015/08/430343.shtml?discuss
Trump does not threaten establishment. He is threatening bunch of circus clowns on the order from true establishment of US ruling elite. Open your eyes that's the fact.
The message to those clowns is simple either you find the way to manipulate public effectively like it was done for last 60 years or you, so-called politicians are out and oligarchs will directly take over like it was in XIX century when bribes were being paid in open directly by industrial moguls on senate floor just after a vote.
None of those clowns care about you or me or anyone but their cronies and themselves.
Only boycott has any political weight or visible expression in this corrupt system. Let them be elect themselves by 10% of population to prove their illegitimacy to rule and we should demand their departure from political realm.
Entire establishment must go!!!. Let's not prostitute our vote no more!!! Let's not be corrupted this time around. Enough is enough!!!
Neither Trump nor well-mannered Greens or anybody who suck tit of establishment won't make any difference if they run or not.
As Stalin once said. It is not important who's being elected or
who votes for who. What matters is who is counting the votes (Bush-Gore 2000,Bush-Kerry 2004).
We should be counting votes if we want to win.
We could have easily and cheaply electronic ALTERNATIVE election for alternative programs and ALTERNATIVE candidates (that never run for office and are unaffiliated with any political formation) who would commit to execute those political programs that can truly represent our political aspiration as a nation. Elections, followed all web practically no cost campaign on YT or elsewhere, protected via secure block chain technology guaranteeing accuracy since everyone would be able to check whether his/her vote was counted up. At minimum it could be media event where Americans can voice they vision of America instead of sheeple fest.
The only choice we have for today is absolute boycott of elections as 150 millions of true American patriots are already doing and election after election vastly outnumbering electoral zombies of the American Oligarch Party in their inhumane march into poling/feeding stations to get their rotten meat and in the process to validate murder and mayhem done in our names.
For those who still think they can organize and win "their" election. Here is a gem. The fallacy of this sort of democracy is nowhere better illustrated than in case of Italy where for over 30 years after WWII Italian communist party alone or communist/socialist coalition WON EVERY SINGLE NATIONAL ELECTION and was never asked by president to form government resulting in 39 minority governments all under watchful eye of American protectors of democracy and US navy.
We’re dealing here” with autocratic system disguised as democratic chaos, fake uncertainty or illusion of chance and propaganda of opportunity for all. We might even win, one shot in a billion, in "their" elections but we would never get to rule without blood spilled in the streets.
Idea of boycott is the only viable idea to express our political views that are absent from candidates agendas and from the ballots. It was already successfully done.
I've been a long time reader of the Hedge and reading through the comments here lately, I can't help but notice the increasingly and obvious presence of sheeple with their mainstream popular opinions that fit on the 3 x 5 index card (Tom Woods) controlled by FOXCNNMSNBCIRSDEAFBICIA... yada yada yada.. I'm beginning to regret telling everybody to "Go check out ZeroHedge." Or maybe people are really just that easily manipulated to think and act a certain way... Trump??? Fuck'em all!!!
You're just not ready to be an Anarchist, yet ... I'n afriad it is YOU who has not evolved with the rest of ZH
Exactly! Evolving to what? The same as it ever was. The ruling elite would skip out on the panem et circenses, if they didn't make so much damn money playing on the naivety of the plebes with the bizarre ritual of voting.
1) Neither Trump nor Christie will deliver to the repubs the electorial votes of New York nor California, and probably not New Jersey (I don't know if Christie can, still seems the state is too democrat oriented.). No electorial count is gained by the repubs having a NY/ NJ candidate.
2) Fly over country repubs WILL NOT SUPPORT NOR TURN OUT FOR CHRISTIE. period. Gun rights, the Fed, Supreme court appointees, etc.- to many social and financial issues would mean a continuation of Obama if Christie is elected.
3) Fly over country repubs will grow to hate Trump. Its just his personality. (Actually, Ted Cruz is somewhat the same.) If you watch the reaction to a typical NY/ NJ person in the middle america/ southeast, southwest- the Mid-am/ SE/ SW person are typically mildly polite to the visitor, but they'd rather have a black family move in next door than NY/ NJ white. JMHO- but you got to live here to see it.
4) Texas is in the bag for repubs, so what does Perry offer. I'm serious, what does he have to offer?
5) Gun rights, Gun rights, Gun rights, Gun rights- yeah, it IS that important to the fly over country repubs. Anyone caught on the wrong side in a repub primary, current opinion or past, they'll be cooked over the fire of attack ads. POSSIBLY even more important than abortion issue (and gay marriage). Its what I've seen many places since Obama took office- one of the good things he's accomplished. Scratch Mr T. and Christie. ( I pity the fool...)
6) Rand Paul will benefit from his stand against Mr. T.
7) John Kasich would deliver Ohio and Rubio Florida- might be VP considerations. If Hillary is the Dem nominee, don't even bother thinking about a female VP candidate. No significant demographic changes would occur.
8) Back to Trump: so the system has too much corruption, so many bought out and compromised politicians, so the thought is to now vote for one of the corruptors? Trump freely admits to not only believing in the current system, but has benefitting from the current system and will continue the current politicians for sale. HE DOES NOT CARE about your opinion on this issue and will not change. What would he have done if he were in the senate and had to vote on the prior (or future) bailout of the banks? C'mon man- he's so in the bag he is the bag. No chance, 1000/1000 times, he'd bail out his peers. Citizens United anyone? Can you see Trump opposing THAT?
Our current Pres. has no prior "how to run a business" experience, so give a point ot Mr. T. and C. Firano
9) The author may have misjudged Fox's after the debate focus group. The slight turn away from Trump seems real out here in nowhere land.
10) Trump vs. Edward Snowden. 'nuff said.
Yeah, I'm just another sod on the attack on poor little Trump. What a tool.
11) One more- when a society prevents an honest back and forth discussion on issues such as immigration, gay marriage, flags (not f_gs), you get Trump. All the PC, slanted coverage, "shaming" of anyone not holding the official position means more extreme expressions occur. If I had a dollar for every Confederate flag I've seen the last few weeks, I could buy one-tenth of an amazon stock share, as if I'd want it.
Are any of you old enough to remember when people who disagree on an issue could actually say, and did actually say- I disagree with you, but I'm am willing to fight for your right to say it? We need to get back there. Maybe its my fantasy world.
Quiz: how many churches were bombed in New Mexico a little over a week ago? You heard about it right? Surely the national media wouldn't discriminate in their reporting just because these churches weren't black.
Google "Las Cruces NM", which, as you may know, means the crosses.
Ok thanks Mr Rove.
So I guess Mike just bought a clue that turned on the 15 watt filament in his head and illuminated him to the TWO PARTY FRAUD?
Welcome to the real world Mike.
Did it ever occur to you that Trump was BROUGHT IN by the Republican establishment to DISTRACT voters from the fact that all of their other candidates are rotten horse meat? And that they will also send him out in a well orchestrated blaze of misogynist glory when the time is right?
VOTE: for the Donald going out in a blaze of glory
VOTE: for "Jeb!" getting caught manning a glory hole
Personally I think Trump is a douche, but it's painfully obvious that the MSM and FOX in particular are trying to sabotage the guy. And it's not just him either.... So exactly when is there gonna be actual Democrat debates? Jeb and Hilary are being intentionally protected.
Fox news is totally, absolutely, unquestionably
unqualified to moderate any form of presidential debate.
They do not understand what debate moderation is
and do not employ anyone even remotely capable
of moderating a debate...
they only hire adversarial attack shills and set them out
on their mission to promote the Murdoch/Fox agenda.
The GOP have cut education spending so much in America, that you can't be surprised that a realityTV star is beating all the polticians.
Please, spare me the left - right, red pill - blue pill bullshit! If throwing more money at the public skool and university industrial academia crowd was the answer it would have been apparent long ago. It hasn't worked out that way. There are some really serious structural issues in the "educational" system. Try some Thomas Sowell.