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EPA Admits Spilling Millions Of Gallons Of Toxic Waste Into Colorado River - Stunning Aerial Footage
By John Vibes via TheAntiMedia.org,
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the federal organization in charge of fining and arresting people and companies for damage done to the environment, spilled over a million gallons of toxic waste into the Animas river in Colorado this week. The waste came from an abandoned mining operation and turned the entire river a disgusting shade of bright orange.
The EPA admitted earlier this week that the spill occurred while workers from the agency were using heavy machinery to open the Gold King Mine, an operation that was shut down some time ago. While trying to enter the mine, the machines busted a shaft that was filled with wastewater, creating a leak into the river.
At first, the EPA attempted to downplay the spill and act like there was nothing wrong, but they were heavily criticized for those initial statements.
Dave Ostrander, the EPA’s regional director told reporters in a later statement that “It’s hard being on the other side of this.”
“We are very sorry for what happened. This is a huge tragedy. It’s hard being on the other side of this. Typically we respond to emergencies; we don’t cause them. … It’s something we sincerely regret,” he said.
However, some people are not willing to let the EPA off that easily, even some politicians have rightly pointed out that the EPA should be treated in the same way that any company or private individual would be treated if they poisoned the river.
U.S. Rep. Scott Tipton, who is from the area where the spill occurred said the EPA must pay for their mistake.
“If a mining operator or other private business caused the spill to occur, the EPA would be all over them. The EPA admits fault and, as such, must be accountable and held to the same standard,” Tipton said.
In a statement released this Thursday, Taylor McKinnon, of the Tucson-based Center for Biological Diversity, said that
“Endangered species downstream of this spill are already afflicted by same toxic compounds like mercury and selenium that may be in this waste. Taylor McKinnon, of the Tucson-based Center for Biological Diversity, said in a statement Thursday. “These species are hanging by a thread, and every new bit of toxic exposure makes a bad situation worse. EPA’s downplaying of potential impacts is troubling and raises deeper questions about the thoroughness of its mine-reclamation efforts.”
Aerial footage below:
The EPA actually has no concern for the environment, they just happen to use the environment as a cover story to create laws and gain an advantage for the companies that lobbied for exemptions to the agency’s regulations, and to collect money in fines. There are solutions outside the common government paradigm, and that is mainly the ability for individuals, not governments, to hold polluters personally and financially accountable.
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Ok, how large of a fine do they have to pay? I vote BP gets to decide.
Wasn't the EPA created only by executive order and not by act of Congress?
At least they apologized, unlike our Department of Defense that has killed millions on behalf of higher profits for the MIC.
The EPA has obviously outsourced management of this to China.
Had it been AlaricBalth Chemical Company instead of the EPA responsible for this disaster I would already be charged with environmental terrorism and enjoying a nice water boarding experience. This SNAFU will be swept under the proverbial rug by the current regime in Washington.
Yes yes yes.... Charge them a fine, and increase my taxes to pay for it. Then increase the EPA budget so they don't "make the same mistake"
Prolly more democratic QE, qualitative easing.
Mmmmm... now we can get orange roughy from Colorado instead of Australia.
... Extreme Pollution Assholes ...
This was an honest yet tragic mistake. This is exactly why I have repeatedly suggested that we set up secondary government departments tasked with overseeing the existing departments. This will ensure that our government is 100% accountable for its actions.
I do so enjoy your comments. The sarc is so thick you could spread it on bread and eat it all up
the epa, by law, keeps the environment safe.
safe for the birds.
safe for the fish.
and that is why, by law, this was not a spill.
and why, by law, it was not toxic.
This is the same fiendish mob that runs flak for monsanto and banned primatene mist because it causes global warming.
http://www.rt.com/usa/monsanto-glyphosate-roundup-epa-483/
Oh, and there's this...in case anybody doesn't see things their way.
http://www.examiner.com/article/more-federal-agencies-buy-multithousands...
The Animas flows through parts of NM that I have relatives in. I've fished that river, and it is a kick-ass river to fish. This really fucking sucks. Fuck you, EPA.
WTF is the EPA doing opening up a closed gold mine in the Rockies? Re-enacting Ayn Rand?
Precisely the question I have...
there will be pigs.
It's painful to watch this happen to such beautiful nature. For all concerned about their water, I would recommend taking a look at this filtration company, they are US Made Systems that remove heavy metals, radiation, fluoride and lot more: http://www.pureeffectfilters.com/
All that is well and good, and misdirected, because, and I repeat, WTF is the EPA doing opening up a closed gold mine in the Rockies?
My best guess would be that EPA goons were they looking for pollution so they could fine the mine operator.
Fire the managers that didn't do their due dilegence before digging. FIRE and never re-hire. Only in my fantasy.
Were the EPA personel playing on the CAT machinery? probably. it was probably like a kids party with grown men operating tractors they had little experience on. I know...im in the grading and paving business. fuck them.
Gina McCarthy, the Director of the EPA who has a clipped butch haircut and looks like a mean prison guard, has yet to comment on the spill.
She did take to her Facebook page to brag that she was on PBS talking about the EPA's Clean Power Plan and global climate change.
With her Bachelor of Arts in social anthropology, she believes that she's a scientific genius on the factors that effect the climate.
https://www.facebook.com/GinaMcCarthyEPA
Just another Dike (yes pun). I think GOD is assembling them all in one place for a single strike from heaven.
Yeah, and out in CA they're still forcing us to wash (waste) 100's of millions of gallons of fresh water through the Sacramento River water system to save a fucking extinct species. I mean, it's gone, people.
Which side of the Continental Divide is it on? I hope it's flowing toward California. They love the EPA.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/NorthAmerica-W...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Sacrivermap1.jpg
So
Who
Goes
To
Jail?
Maybe Gina McCarthy, the Director of the EPA, and her diverse EPA staff all need to take a swim in that river?
It ultimately ends up in Kalifornia.
"WTF is the EPA doing opening up a closed gold mine in the Rockies?"
Is that a rhetorical question, or do you just lack the ability to do a web search?
http://www.kunc.org/post/why-was-environmental-protection-agency-messing...
Your options are too narrow, and your critical thinking skills sorely lacking. The article says NOTHING, other than, whoa! what a fuck up, like, oops, k? And still I wonder how people who do NOTHING for a living decide that they will save Mother Earth via playing with dynamite.
I like how the haus faggot with the first comment is still crying that a corporation was slapped on the wrist for fucking an ocean. And that they are too stupid to realize the EPA would pay a fine with taxpayer's money. That'll learn 'em!
Please remove the corporate fuckstick from your shfingshfing haus, they dont need fanboys they have politicians.
My options are too narrow?
What the fuck does that even mean?
As for saying NOTHING, sorry, but what that article doesn't say speaks volumes about the agenda behind it. They could have looked up the facts just as you could have, and just as *I* did.
To do critical thinking you first have to assemble some facts.
I used to live in the area. The Animas river was truly one of the most beautiful rivers around. Google images of it or the Durango Silverton narrow gauge.
Is this bullish for gold?
Bullish for, 'Let them eat toxic sludge!'
No, but it's bullish for bullshit.
Read all 8 pages of it, if you have nothing better to do.
What else was in that mine? What is being stored there?
It's sickening...I so wish I had the discipline to ignore all this. You know if you got caught fishing without a license, some other jackboot outfit would come along and impound your tackle and lock you up. Fuck them is right, I hope I live long enough to see their world crash down on their heads.
And the Animas HAD some nice flyfishing.
Those effin EPA employees who caused this should be sent to prison. Employees of a private company would be and the company fined. Hopefully, Colorado and New Mexico can figure out a way to fine the effin federal agency and their worthless employees. Downstream is Utah, and Arizona with National Parks.
This is disgusting.
Can hardly wait until the EPA is put in charge of disposing our nucular wastes.
[PS: Bush spelling]
"NSA admits to spilling millions of emails into Utah sink hole..but does not apologize"
True that, digusting
And their explanations are likely lies to boot... We'll find the truth tattered and torn some day down the road...
I think I'll have to force myself to ignore this crap long enough to go broil up some of the Snapper we caught this weekend,
before these bastards outlaw fishing all together, and arrest me for eating THEIR fish, FOR YOUR SAFETY.
Stfu you racist chunga
Funny.... USUALLY when the EPA monitors environmental pollution that the government favors/causes, they usually just ban any coverage and keep their mouths shut.
Example: radiation. When Ft. Calhoun Nuclear Plant was flooded, they just got a no-fly zone declared around the plant so no news choppers could get disturbing footage. When Fukushima blew up or our Hanford site had a 'leak' or our WIPP had a fire and spewed radiation, they just turned off the radiation monitors and say nothing.
The surprising thing here is that 1) they allowed any pictures of this, and 2) they didn't deny it outright. Too hard to cover up, so I suppose they are stuck admitting guilt since it's pretty obvious. I'm damn sure they will not have EPA people running aound gathering toxin samples or reporting them - even though they would have been all over this if it were someone they could fine (and somehow profit from) a private company causing this. I wonder if they're monitoring fish kills or sampling anything?
F'king EPA loosers. Why do we even fund that agency?
There is no covering that up. I've fished that river on private property held by relatives. There is private land up and down that river that would involve kicking people off their land to shut them up. That's not going to happen.
study up, it will eventually happen. its the plan, its water after all. There is a war on ranchers via water.
WRT epa, they are the ones who wouldnt allow capturing the macundo bp wells surface oil because they couldnt capture enough of it. 99.something % of it... so they sunk it with corexit and its still there. ask george washington. im sure he has ammo on that.
My kneejerk was 'what is the reason/endgame that they perpetrated this'.
Las Vegas?
http://www.weather.com/science/environment/news/nevada-lake-mead-histori...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Sanjuanrivermap.jpg
http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2009/02/has_obama_wronged_las_vegas
F'king EPA loosers. Why do we even fund that agency?
The same reason we fund the IAEA, DOE, and don't forget the Brain Trust at NIST who said WTC7 fell from ordinary office fires.
If you don't pay your taxes, Lois Learner will get one of her 75 I.Q. submissive gimps like Rudi Juliani, The Bush Boys. Cheney. Chertoff, etc. to transfer that all that degredation and violence they have spooled up.
Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution does not authorize Congress to legislate in the area of the environment, therefore, the EPA is unconstitutional. All 50 states of the Union have their own version of the EPA as authorized under the 10th Amendment. There is no need for a federal agency. The states of the Union can handle their own environmental needs as authorized by their legislatures.
50% of the Government is the same way. Hell maybe more.
But...who will watch the guys watching the government?! Where is Pol Pot when you need him??!
Pol Pot was a great genius!
He tried to rebuild the ancient Cambodian water works to try to make Cambodja big again like in history.
Okay... he failed bigtime and a few million people died...
BUT THAT SHOULDN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T TRY IT ALL ALLOVER IN AMERICA!!
And with America's surplus population, there's plenty of room for error!
"It's a holiday in Cambodia
It's tough, kid, but its life"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA
To MDB: 'This is exactly why I have repeatedly suggested that we set up secondary government departments tasked with overseeing the existing departments.'
This already exists with the Auditor General.
A controversial decision made on July 20 by Obama's Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel now requires Federal Inspector Generals to get permission to review sensitive documents from the very agencies they are monitoring.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/05/igs-to-ask-lawmakers-to-remov...
Wow, there is simply no end to what this asshole will do. Can't wait to see the pardon list next year.
Instead of screaming 'beer' the voices in my head are chanting kafka.
Thanks a pantload.
Sure right. So MOAR government overseeing other government is going to solve the problem. Maybe we need some overseers overseeing the overseers too. Just think how bullish our economy would be with all of the overseer jobs created!!
So you are all in favor of the Department of Redundancy Department?
'Honest yet tragic' - MDB your da best. Only 1 in 3 understand your gift and that is the Tragedy.
"This was an honest yet tragic mistake."
You got that exactly right, and the party to blame is the town of Silverton, NOT the EPA.
If they weren't so concerned about the impact on tourism which owes its very existence to the historical mines which are the cause of the problem, this might not have happened. In other words.... NIMBY.
http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20130803/NEWS01/130809831/Superfund...
Or you can spin this as "Revenge of the EPA" for resisting federal assistance for a problem originally created by the State of Colorado. I mean, why would you want millions of federal dollars pouring into your area creating employment and cleaning up a known and serious hazard when you can make a lot more money selling trinkets and train rides to fat ass Californians who get spooked at the mere mention of "superfund?"
Either way, you'll never get the whole story from the hacks at Antimedia.org who have just as big an agenda as everyone else involved in this mess.
As for ZH running this article, all I can say is gold isn't the only thing being stacked around here.
These images are NOT Fukushima.
http://image.slidesharecdn.com/nuclearholocaust027-131220064627-phpapp01...
To be judged by intent rather than result, unlike how the rest of us receive our "justice". We must recognize that to have a prayer of having a large centrally commanded system to function and not implode, accountability of consequence must exist....but it doesn't.
We will never learn who caused this and what happens to them.....unless they are a private sub contractor, which in that case will be sued and publicly disgraced.
The first rule of government employment is to NEVER trash a fellow employee.
The EPA announced in a press conference that SHIT HAPPENED and they're sorry.
WHAT MORE CAN YOU WANT FROM THEM??!
There's little children starving in America euh.... I mean Africa, and nobody's talking about that.
Now who should be sorry do you think?
I wonder if I could use that approach should I ever be accused of doing something wrong.
Okay, done wondering. I'm nobody. I know the answer.
And one minor adjustment to what you wrote: "There's (sic) little African children starving in America..." #blackchildrenmatter
Jeeezus, you fuck tards are stupid. Do you realize these mines all leave behind massive lakes of toxic waste? Eventually THEY ALL leak into rivers because the only thing holding it back is a dirt berm or plug.
In other words, this would have happened anyway, after a large rain or flood. The EPA screwed up, but at least they are trying to get ahead of disasters waiting to happen.
EXACTLY ZERO of these mines would ever be started up if the companies had to properly treat their waste chemicals. The crime is that we let them get away so cheap, which is another form of socializing losses on the taxpayer.
Once again, the CEOs got to take away their profit, while sticking the rest of us with the bill.
No personal responsibility. Government employees are immune from retribution. The law presumes good intent and competence.
The law is a ass.
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You get a junk just because we love you so much, MDB.
Kruggybear approves of this broken window.
Proggie "logic" is amazing in't it?
We're from the government and we're here to help fuck things up.
What a fuck can you expect from a government led by a Kenyan community organizer?
Let's give them a hand:
THE RUSSIANS ARE FLYING A DRONE OVER AMERICAN AIRSPACE!!!
OBAMA HAS ORDERED TO RETALIATE WITH THE SAME FORCE AND 50 NUCLEAR BOMBERS HAVE LEFT TO MOSCOW AND BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF THEM!!
You missed a step, otherwise it exactly happens as follows: Increase the EPA budget, so they can give $hundreds-of-millions in grants to 3rd party groups, like Sierra Club, for "education and outreach." These groups can then sue the EPA and have favorable courts then force the changes the EPA wants
they must be held accountable...yes, the EPA must fine themselves a large amount for this!!
The good ole' government cure all of "Oops we're sorry" ....... worked for the IRS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whbwwd0DR1M
"When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will we realize that one cannot eat money."
Thanks ewik, so profound... Only the socialist leftists understand this as they FEEL so deeply..
Proggie "logic" is amazing in't it? We can afford environmental conservation because we have chopped down those trees and mined that coal. Unless, of course, they have other goals.
Yet we are all busily consuming everything which you just described.
Why do we want to condemn those who enable us, the businesses that provide our goods, services and jobs, rather than the customer? An admission of ignorance? Is ignorance actually a defense or an excuse to willingly be treated as mindless sheep? Shall we live like the fundamental Muslim and cover our women's body from foot to top of head so as to not be "tempted"? Punish those who would dare to do so? Admit that we are animals with NO self control, no response but our most base instincts? WE are doing this.
Sure, punish fraud and criminality. But do not conflate that with our consumptive choices. WE have a choice, not only in our direct actions, but also in what we believe, what we choose to think. To believe that everything we are seeing is not somehow a result of our actions, is ignorance reinforced by a bias against any personal responsibility.
Actually.... One day I ate some gold leaf. I was surprised that it had a bit of taste to it.....sort of metallic. Probably better for me than the breakfast I had earlier that day.
More government incompetence . Nothing will happen to these employees either
If you shut down the containment grid we can't be held responsible. Yes, it is true this man has no penis.
We'll be able to confirm when dead pigs are sighted floating down the Animas river. Till then the jury is out.
I've heard they bought stocks in the EVIAN water company now they've contaminated LAKE MEAD!
you mean the Department of Death!
Something in that spill was wante in the water supply and a US Corp could not be convinced to take the fall for it!
Created by the Clean Water Act of Congress in the 1970's after the Cuyahoga River caught fire several times.
Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution does not authorize Congress to legislate in the area of the environment, therefore, it is unconstitutional. All 50 states of the Union have their own version of the EPA as authorized under the 10th Amendment. There is no need for a federal agency. The states of the Union can handle their own environmental needs as authorized by their legislatures.
Fukin EPA meant to hit the "clear solution" problem in the river intead of the "orange 15" color dye.
Either way, we'dve seen it.
FUCK the EPA!!!
You're right, HB. President Nixon (D-CA) signed an executive order on 12/2/1970. It was approved by a committee in each of the 2 houses.
how large of a fine do they have to pay?
You can't prosecute the government.
Just thank goodness we have these guys. Pretty sure I would have caught it after about a mile or so.
Oh wait....that doesn't look right. Maybe we should turn that valve off.
And what will a fine do?
THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA WILL BE DELIGHTED TO HEAR THAT 80% OF THEIR WATER IS CONTAMINATED!!
Plan B will be to put seawater in a bottle and catch the vapor when you put it in the sun...
It's like a big neon sign that says: WE WANT EVERYBODY OUT OF CALIFORNIA SO WE CAN SELL IT TO THE CHINESE!
Drear Amerikan Overrords -
Yuuu owe us rots and rots of money. Wre wrill take Carrifornria as compenstration in 2021. Yuu have breen forwrarned.
<3
Chrinese Govrenment
That would be great for the USA...
New neighbors, i'll have the spouse make a casserole!
(chinks instead of spics instead of spooks instead of the fey folk.. The neighborhood was shot anyway.)
I'm guessing Corexit won't help here.
Nah, it only helps against Global Warming and Teenage Mutant Mexico Gulf Turtles.
OK, how large a fine do US Tax Payers need to pay, cause that is where this will end up....
Environmental Poisoning Agency
Fine?!?! Why does it seem that the water supply for the South West and CA is under criminal attack?
Powell and Mead way down so lets add some poison to it as well? At some point there are larger questions.
"The EPA actually has no concern for the environment."
Oh, fuck you right up the ass...
I'm no fan of big government but a) that's just your fucking opinion man, and b) that opinion is DEAD WRONG
any dumbfuck that downvotes me is likely not old enough to remember what pollution, smog etc. was like in the USA before the EPA came onto the stage... they're the reason the US doesn't have air, water, and field soil like China's, frankly... anyone here who bitches and complains about that has likely been told to clean their fucking act up by the EPA in the past and has an axe to grind...
yes, this is a result of EPA work and the EPA should be held accountable, but let's not forget why they were there to begin with... that mine has been a toxic cesspool for as long as anyone can recall, the EPA didn't do that the mine owners did, period end of story...
No, you're right turtle. I saw it it too and you get an upvote from me.
The real problem is that there are plenty of old mines in this country that are just toxic accidents waiting to happen. I'm surprised something like this hasn't occured sooner. Expect more.
I used to live/work in that area, near Durango. The Florida River attaches to the Animas, and it's great fishing, or at least it used to be.
And yet it's not the previous mine owner's that caused this disaster. Is it? No. it's some fucktard at the EPA.
Whem the smoke clears, you come back to us and post exactly how many EPA fucktards lose their job over this.
In my way of thinking, the head of the EPA should tender their resignation immediately. Will that happen? Hardly.
Standard Disclaimer: I call on Gina McCarthy to resign immediately.
lose their jobs? how silly they will be given raises and promotions to oversee the thousands of new employees they hire to help with the disaster. their budget will be increased by congress because obviously they need more oversight and controls to see that this trav-sham-mockery does not happen again.
another 2 or 3 billion a year should cover it.
problem solved, and as a bonus new jobs.
If people (and their governments) were more honest, we wouldn't need gold and silver for money and these mines would never have existed. Therefore, I blame society.
Nice try but hey, where was the epa when this mine was being converted to a toxic waste site? Oh that's right they got paid to shut till cleanup was needed.
They were there to begin with because they got paid to look the other way when it was being made.
I am old enough. I am also old enough to remember when the government and government alone got us involved in a completely "trumped" up nuclear arms race with the soviets, who at their best had 1/10th of our arsenal.
I am sorry this happened. I never could afford gold, nor would I know what to do with it. But this will pass. We need the EPA to clean up our nuclear stuff first. Then worry about re-opening gold mines. Gorbechev wrote in his memiors that the USSR did not collapse because of our super spies. Not because of russian industrial waste. Not because of communism. not our bresinski's spreading freedom to afganistan. They were not jealous of our shining city on the hill, thousand points of light. He said the USSR colapsed because of Chernobyl. Priorities folks. Priorities.
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“If a mining operator or other private business caused the spill to occur, the EPA would be all over them. The EPA admits fault and, as such, must be accountable and held to the same standard,” Tipton said."
So what is that standard? Is it a fine? Frivolous lawsuit ending in ridiculous settlement amounts? Who gets the money? How about a firing line? Talk is great, but just like with the IRS--let's do something tangible already!
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any other good news this morning?
Greece is going to borrow 86 Billion EURO. Because the last 250 Billion they have borrowed didn't work -- this next 86 Billion Euros will do the trick.
indoubatedly.
www.dictionary.com it helps with spelling too
Good suggestion, but it's not always easy to tell on ZH if English is the primary language of posters here. Having grown up in the US, I never bothered noticing how screwy homophones are in English until I met my (Chinese-born) wife. Consider:
red -> read -> reed -> lede -> lead -> led -> red... Each pair sounds similar, but words like read and lead can be pronounced more than one way and have other words that sound the same. Non-English speakers can be confused.
A few of my favorites:
I support whirled peas.(Or was that world peace?)
The bullet missed me by a hare's breath. (Hair's breadth, unless a rabbit breathed just hard enough to alter the trajectory of the bullet.)
heh,heh,heh.................he said homophones.
If you have a problem with homophones, don't wear assless chaps.
You may have missed it, but homophones fuck you in the ear!
Never the less, compared to the necessary context nuance required to read, much less understand even the universal Mandarin is beyond me.
Gud Nglish iz nut.
Obama's golf handicap has improved!
The country can cheer once again as their best president ever since Donald Duck keeps getting better!
He'll go down as the best duffer in Presidential history...
Did you mean to say, 'fluffer'?
I pity the course supers after Hussein has played a round.
Probably drives his cart on every green
If I was President, I would too, and my cart would be a big fuckin tank, or maybe a backhoe with a cooler of beer in the front bucket, driven by a hot naked lady...I'd be playing barefoot, and 'Happy Gilmoring' off the tees...
As long as he is niggardly with his mulligans.
How about some Monday humor
Fed’s Fischer: U.S. Labor Market Nearly at Full Employment; Inflation ‘Very Low’" It's only a tiny leak, " the PM of japan told his peeples.
We've got this one! We're sending in a robot!
. Crying TEPCO CEO
Crying TEPCO CEO
That was a big freakin deal....there's no crying in Japan.
5000 gal/min and no end in sight is not tiny, NOW THAT'S A LEAK!
the epa sounds just like tepco
we are veddy soddy zis happened, it vill not happen again!
Japs with a German accent? Wierd.
Video from RT ...
Stop Russian propaganda !
Its a video of a river. Gas yourself.
Video from RT ...
Because Fox and MSNBC are facing huge budget cuts.
The EPA...the Veterans Admin...The State Dept...more and more incompetence. I'm so Glad Barry forced more gubmint control of health care down our throats. They'll fix everything.
Video from RT...
Because FOX CNN MSNBC are just so fucking trustworthy.
Megyn Kelly asks Donald Trump why he did that to the river.
Second question....why does he hate women?
Jeb Bush, Carl Rove, and the Kochs are huddled in the corner laughing their asses off.
Vince >>i like your comments and you're cool man..
I hate to do it im calling bullshit on your statement that MSN and CBS are broke.... they are not paid through advertizing or viewership market capture; rather, they are paid for toting the govt propaganda aka official narrative. Wasn't there something about the Saudis doing the same thing to hide decimated viewership ratings of media? They just subsidize the "news" so it can continue....if i recall correctly the Saudis learned it by watching US. The US was trained on it by Israel..Israel didnt leak anything cause they doo all the spying and scrub it all first.
By deduction and analysis of their subject matter they are filthy fucking stinking rich. Now what was Wesson saying about propaganda again..i have to look into that.
They just have one customer, and it aint the people.
Im here to kick ass and.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V-4JHT2q3w
RIPS
Hey don't leave us off the incompetence list!
(we want to be on the ZH commie list too, but are too shy to ask.)
--Congress Critters and staff
http://www.zerohedge.com/users/newsoutlet
/sarc
just in case someone missed it
Wow, tough crowd today. I thought it was excellent sarcasm.
Colorado seems to be the center of gubermint ineptitude. Check out the VA Hospital in Denver. Mismanagement, cost over runs,... At least we can get stoned, legally, when they f up!
Hmm, I leave Colorado and lots of Progressive-Socialists from California move in...Guess I have to blame myself here.
lots of Progressive-Socialists
Republicans or Democrats? Not that it makes much of a difference.
So much trouble and waste over such a barbaric relic. Why if I were a skeptical person I might believe that the miners are being put out of business for a reason. But our government looks out for us and would never do anything as selfish as that would they?