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Lois Lerner Emails Released: "Lincoln Should Have Let The South Go..."

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

Remember Lois Lerner? How could you forget. She’s the former head of the IRS’ Exempted Organizations division who was caught using the agency to target Americans based on their political views.

Well we now have snippets from some of her email conversations, and it becomes crystal clear that she targeted conservatives because, well, she really hates conservatives. Clearly the type of person who should be placed in a position of governmental power.

From the Hill:

Lois Lerner, the central figure in the IRS targeting controversy, called Abraham Lincoln the country’s worst president in an email disclosed in a bipartisan Senate report, according to USA Today.

 

“Look my view is that Lincoln was our worst president not our best,” Lerner wrote in an email dated March 6, 2014.

 

Lerner, the former IRS director of Exempted Organizations, joked in one email that the 16th president should have just let the South secede, rather than fighting the Civil War.

 

“He should [have] let the south go,” Lerner wrote in response to a friend who disparaged Texas as a “pathetic” state. “We really do seem to have [two] different mind sets.”

And what is your “mind set” Ms. Lerner? That government officials should target American citizens if they hold political views you don’t like?

The report also highlighted emails written by Lerner calling conservatives “crazies” and “a–holes.”

Yes ladies and gentlemen, this is your government. Corrupt beyond belief, shady, unethical, dangerous and vengeful.

So why is Lois Lerner not sitting in a jail cell for this clear abuse of power? Because oligarchy.

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For related articles, see:

Least Transparent Ever – IRS Used “Wholly Separate” Instant Messaging System to Hide Communications

How the IRS and Department of Homeland Security are Expanding Undercover Work (IRS Agents Can Even Pose as Clergy)

Jon Stewart’s Brilliant and Hilarious Commentary on the IRS Scandal

 

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Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:03 | 6409454 oldmanofthesee
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And, she never will sit in jail. She has cover from the kneegrow-in-chief.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:06 | 6409471 Stroke
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The Majic Negro....there fixed it

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:08 | 6409480 y3maxx
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"Can't we all get along?"

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:12 | 6409498 Haus-Targaryen
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2 words Mrs. Lerner,

"no shit"  

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:28 | 6409517 philipat
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2 Words Ms Lerner: Fuck you

Only figuratively speaking of course. Those Hitlery (Also allegedly a woman) "Pant suits" on a fat frame don't do much to stimulate the hormones, if you know what I mean? Where do the Dems find all these lying corrupt fat cunts?

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:53 | 6409678 Theosebes Goodfellow
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Lois Lerner's criminality is plebian. It is the criminality of Barack Obama and Eric Holder that is truly epic who knowlingly allowed her to perpetrate these crimes against American citizens. For Lerner I say jail. For the other two I say lamp posts.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:02 | 6409721 Dental Floss Tycoon
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She was right about Lincoln.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:09 | 6409753 SumTing Wong
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Free John Corzine!

When are the people going to realize there are two different sets of laws. You and I realize it. But when are the Cheetos breath, Skittles-eating, groups going to come to the same realization.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:24 | 6410112 Amish FinEng
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All states should rise up and end this federal government NOW!

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 12:21 | 6410398 eatthebanksters
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If Trump or Cruz are elected she will be prosecuted when it is too late for POTUS to grant her clemency.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 15:48 | 6411145 free shit plz
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Shes just a niggalover

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:07 | 6411211 Four chan
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it's clear there are two minds demonstrated by the police and thugs in ferguson.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:37 | 6411308 free shit plz
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Yeah, remember when that thug killed the policeman? Disgusting.

I like how the tyler durdenesque zerohedge and the tyler fanboys barrack hard for the state in such matters, yet still pretend to be a subversive voice scaring the establishment.

A couple of shirtless brad pitt pics doesnt change the reality that this place is a shittier fox news for old white turds in denial.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 17:31 | 6411545 Amish FinEng
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OH!

Hey Tyler, fight club is challenging you. Is he DHS? or FBI?

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 17:42 | 6411580 free shit plz
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Last time I challenged tyler in the comments section I was banned. Censorship-heavy subversive sites are my favorite.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 18:00 | 6411664 Amish FinEng
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I like .gov honeypots run by the brilliant minds at the FBI.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 20:09 | 6412128 NidStyles
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Strange I have been here for years and have challenged Tyler more than once. 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 20:31 | 6412192 Future Jim
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Reality vs. Lincoln, Slavery, and Civil War

The mainstream narrative about Abraham Lincoln is almost entirely myth. Lincoln is portrayed as all good and as one of the greatest men who ever lived. However, the reality is very different from the mainstream narrative.

Let’s first look at the handful of positive things we can say about Lincoln:

  • Lincoln did not execute the Confederate generals or punish its soldiers as was customary in most warfare until that point. He even let them keep their guns!
  • I think that Lincoln believed the following, “Slavery is wrong because no man has a right to the fruits of another man’s labor, which is one of America’s founding principles.”
  • He was a world class writer, debater, and speaker.

In spite of the few positive things we can say about Lincoln, the facts prove that Lincoln was a reckless racist fascist democidal psychopath. For example, Lincoln:

  • Committed genocide against Native Americans.
  • Imprisoned the elected legislature of Maryland.
  • Enthusiastically proclaimed in the Lincoln v. Douglass debates that he believed that blacks were inferior, should have lower social status, and should not marry whites.
  • Did not mobilize for war as the South was mobilizing even though he intended to go to war, thus exposing his government to easy capture if the Confederacy had been so inclined.
  • Started the Civil War, which killed 750,000 Americans – more than all other wars combined.
  • Started the Civil war only to prevent secession (not to end slavery), and yet secession is a right (that’s how America had been formed); whereas, slavery was an atrocity.
  • Started the war against the advice of his entire cabinet.
  • Told his generals to sacrifice two Union soldiers to achieve each Confederate casualty if necessary to win the war.
  • Was happy with the incompetent drunkard Ulysses S. Grant because Grant was willing to sacrifice three union soldiers to achieve each Confederate casualty.
  • Attacked civilian populations.
  • Declared, several years into the war, in his Emancipation Proclamation, that slaves in the Confederacy were free but that slaves in the 4 slave states in the Union were still not free. In other words, it was an utterly powerless, meaningless, hypocritical, racist, and ineffective proclamation.

Although governments, and especially US administrations, have a long history of perpetrating false flags, I have not verified the claims that the Union itself fired on Fort Sumter to get the war started. However, even if the South fired first, it is self-evident that the Union, under Lincoln’s orders, started the Civil War because placing one’s troops in a foreign country is an act of war.

For months after the Confederacy had seceded, it kept asking Lincoln to get his army out of Confederate territory and told Lincoln that if he sent more troops into Confederate territory, then they would be fired upon. Now, Lincoln knew the Confederacy was mobilized for war and was not bluffing, and he knew that Washington DC was undefended because he had been negligent, but he still sent troops to Fort Sumter, and thus it is self-evident that Lincoln started the Civil War.

When evaluating American history in relation to slavery and the Civil War, it is important to note several additional facts:

  • Democrats were the pro-slavery party. Lincoln was a Republican and was more comfortable with slavery than were other Republicans, and thus Republicans have always said that no man has a right to the fruits of another man’s labor, and Democrats have always been willing to promise the fruits of other men’s labor to whoever would vote for them.
  • All of the most politically correct leaders would have been willing and eager to own slaves: Clinton, Kennedy, FDR, Obama, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Al Gore, George Soros, Oprah,  Golda Meir, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, etc.; whereas, America’s founders were all very uncomfortable owning slaves. (To be fair, I suspect MLK might have have been uncomfortable owning slaves.)
  • Free blacks owned slaves.
  • Slavery was rampant in Africa (by Africans) before America, and it still exists in Africa today.
  • It is looking as if black families were more intact under slavery than they are now because government dependency is an atrocity; it is the new plantation; and it is unconstitutional.
  • Slaves in America revolted far less than in any other country because they were treated better (because the owners were on site).
  • European countries ended slavery only because it became impractical because of slave revolts (because the owners were off-continent).
  • Slavery was ending anyway because of the advent of farm machinery, such as the cotton gin.
  • Southern states were being oppressed and exploited by northern states before the Civil War, continued to be exploited after the war, and continue to be oppressed and exploited to this day.
  • Slavery was not one of America’s founding principles. Slavery contradicted America’s founding principles, and everyone knew it.
  • Frederick Douglass bashed the Constitution … until he read it. Then, he praised the Constitution as the best hope for blacks.
  • Black people in America today are much better off than black people in Africa, and thus have benefitted more than anyone from the enslavement of their ancestors.

 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 20:57 | 6412256 Thenardier
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In essence, Lincoln was an articulate phony.

The colonies divorced Great Britain in 1776; Southerners attempted to divorce the US in 1861. Northern politicians had been intentionally oppressing the south since 1824. By 1861, the south was sick of their moralizing shit and Lincoln's election was the last straw. 

Tagg: Lincoln was widely criticized in the North as a “bloody tyrant” and a “dictator” for his “arbitrary arrests, the suspension of habeas corpus, and the suppression of newspapers . . .” More specifically, imprisoning tens of thousands of Northern civilians without due process for verbally opposing his policies; shutting down over 300 opposition newspapers; deporting an opposing member of Congress; confiscating firearms and other forms of private property; intimidating and threatening to imprison federal judges; invoking military conscription, income taxation, an internal revenue bureaucracy, and huge public debt; and ordering the murder of hundreds of draft protesters in the streets of New York City in July of 1863 are all good reasons why Lincoln was so widely despised.

He was a tyrant.

Most of the north was against their sons being sacrificed to defend the intergrity of the US and slavery.

Lincoln and Grant were coldblooded murderers who hid behind their perception of a higher moral ground. 

618,000 men went to their deaths because of Lincoln and his ego; 1.1 million casualties. 

And he is celebrated ..go figure...

 

 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 23:56 | 6412705 Keyser
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Someone really, really, and I mean really needs to stomp the guts out of this bitch... Who the fuck does she think she is?  She can't think she's god because that title has been reserved for Barry... 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 02:16 | 6412881 RiverDrifter
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Sure, that's why there's a constant flow of people from the northeast and all the rust belt states (especially Ohio it seems) to southern states and has been for the past decade or more.  

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 02:23 | 6412884 Keyser
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Fuck you, and the horse you rode in on... Texas would do just fine as an independent nation with a GDP rivalling most developed nations.. Your steers and queers comment only proves how fucking ignorant you really are...  

In the mean time, shove your stupid fucking blog up your ass... 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 22:59 | 6412590 Rusty Shorts
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..."

  • Black people in America today are much better off than black people in Africa, and thus have benefitted more than anyone from the enslavement of their ancestors.""

 

Absolutely not !!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdMAn91wYWU

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 23:24 | 6412651 Luck Dragon
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Thanks for pointing these out here, more people need to know these facts.

While we're on the topic, it seems if anything I have learned, any government person who is glorified in history books, most likely was a piece of shit -

The Truth About George Washington - https://youtu.be/vkwZDRB3tZo

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 02:46 | 6412897 free shit plz
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Sure you did fanboy heh, you couldn't even respond when I called your statist ass out the other day.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 19:26 | 6411959 willwork4food
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That would be great if you added something worth value to the discussion.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 01:28 | 6412839 jeff montanye
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this practice of irs use against rivals goes back to at least calvin coolidge (a republican), includes fdr (a democrat) and reached a considerably major phase under nixon (republican).  little of obama's very considerable evil is unique to him.  he just has it with so few useful accomplishments and in such obvious contrast to his "reform" promises that one wants to kick him in the balls (assuming ....).

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/DC-Decoder/2013/0517/Playing-the-I...

the u.s. government and the men who rule it actually do even nastier things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 00:21 | 6412753 buzzardsluck
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It bothers me I can't give you the treatment you so deserve.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 22:48 | 6412566 cheeseheader
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Hey, now I remember you...how ya doin'?

 

You are the reason I left Huffpo because it took me too long to realize (I'm an old white guy) that an adult never wins an argument with a kindergartner(s).

 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:38 | 6411310 HamRove
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Plz don't breed, free.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 22:18 | 6412481 Chauncey Gardener
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Add her partner in crime Elijah Cummings to the list of guilty parties and lock his sorry ass up for life. No parole for either of 'em.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 18:21 | 6411728 Parisnights
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The South would have been (will be) better off without this federal corruption,  I mean gov't.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 19:42 | 6412020 Al Gophilia
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The people have to rise up against the States, firstly because only then will we be able to take care of the crims who have captured our halls government. Education:- Don't stop trying. Plant a seed.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 20:39 | 6412212 Future Jim
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Why Globalists Want Texas to Secede

Suppose the President were a globalist and thus wanted global government, a global monopoly on the power to print money out of thin air, control over who gets what healthcare, control over what is taught in schools, recording of all phone calls and emails, no small farms, no self sufficiency, maximum dependence on government, mandatory treatments, and no guns in the hands of the people. There would be global peace because everyone would be obedient and know their place. Such a future is what globalists refer to as The New World Order.

If the President were such a globalist, then he would naturally be apoplectic at the thought of secession by a big and powerful anti-globalist state like Texas … right? … but nothing could be further from the truth.

Just as the globalists in Seattle outvote the individualists in the rest of Washington state; in the absence of Texas, the globalist pockets throughout the US would outvote the individualists in the rest of the US.

Whereas armed Americans now stand alone against the New World Order; without Texas, the rest of America would soon be disarmed; and then it would just be armed Texans who stood alone against the New World Order.

Then once the rest of the world were firmly under the New World Order, the entire world could simply invade Texas under the pretense of an invitation from some putatively “oppressed” minority, which would both motivate the world while demoralizing Texans – just as prescribed by Machiavelli.

 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 23:32 | 6412670 buzzardsluck
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Bring it

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:26 | 6410128 de3de8
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About letting the south secede, yes

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 13:04 | 6410564 DirkDiggler11
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It's not too late, but this time I get the feeling a bunch more states will join the South and secede from this bunch of criminals. I would expect Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, and West Virginia to join the breakaway.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 13:13 | 6410601 Dental Floss Tycoon
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I like your Bonnie Blue flag.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 15:33 | 6411095 Urban Redneck
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As a Citizen of Virginia (and one of the few to successfully and legally break residence and tax enslavement from the State of Virginia) I feel torn...  And the State of Virginia needs to be torn (again), to form North Virginia, to cast out the untermenschen, just like it was torn to form the State of West Viginia to cast out another bunch of untermenschen.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 15:52 | 6411157 praxis
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living in West Virginia, and having driven back to the Old Dominion this weekend, I can only wonder what in hell you're talking about?  I counted 9 Confederate Battle Flags flying in WV before hitting the VA border...

Also, WV was torn from VA sir not the other way around...and not all of the WV county's wanted to leave VA

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:30 | 6411276 Urban Redneck
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It probably would have been better if they had ripped the State the other way, way back when... but then there would be the distinct possibility that I would have grown up with Senators-for-Life Grand Dragon Kleptocract Byrd and Jay ROCKEFELLER... our ass clowns in Richmond and DC are bad enough as it is-

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:37 | 6411309 DirkDiggler11
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As a former resident of the Old Dominion State, I agree 100% ! All of NOVA down to almost Fredericksburg should be "donated" to the District of Columbia. When Bush decided to grow the Federal government at a darn near exponential rate, he sealed Virginia's fate in the process.

One good thing about Southwest Virginia, especially Grayson County is almost zero carpetbaggers.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 19:53 | 6412072 willwork4food
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I am your neighbor in SE VA @ Norfolk. Totally military protocol here. DC is God. Imagine "waking up" around here...

Not a lot of fun I can assure you.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:56 | 6411389 Macon Richardson
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Yes, cast out those northen ubermenchen. Hail to the new Southern goobermenchen.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 19:05 | 6411890 Ajax_USB_Port_R...
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"... join the breakaway."

And all of Nevada - except Las Vegas. Las Vegas can form its own country - run by Harry Reid of course.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 18:32 | 6411771 Parisnights
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Word to the next Robert E. Lee:  Next time you have the nothern skanks holed up on high ground, keep them there guarded by a reasonably sized portion of the army while the main body goes to D.C. to accept surrender.    Wisdom from Sun Tzu.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 18:50 | 6411835 BeansMcGreens
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To the next Joseph Johnston: Next time you have the cowards of the Federal Army routed and in full retreat such as at Manassas, follow them into Washington, hang all the government people and burn the crap pile to the ground. Wouldn't hurt to plow some salt into the ground just in case.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 20:00 | 6412096 LibertarianMenace
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Gentlemen, gentlemen, now I'm from PA, so I'm a bit partial to the hill comment. In any event, I'm also a sympathizer as are many of the citizens in the non-urban areas of the state. So allow me to offer a suggestion: kick the urban areas out of the country. After all, the rural areas were here first. Why should we leave? 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 13:02 | 6410551 Tall Tom
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She was right about Lincoln.

 

Yes she was Dental Floss Tycoon...She was also correct that the South needed to have been allowed to secede.

 

Even somebody opposed to one's own ideology can hold an identical posture, but for a different reason...to achieve a different goal. The agreement is prima facie yet is just superficial at best.

 

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln%E2%80%93Douglas_debates

 

I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything. I do not understand that because I do not want a negro woman for a slave I must necessarily want her for a wife. My understanding is that I can just let her alone.

 

Abraham Lincoln

 

That Lincoln Memorial needs to be deconstructed..er...DESTROYED...as much as the Civil War Confederacy was.

 

Lincoln was a DICTATORIAL AND RACIST MONSTER.

 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 15:38 | 6411112 daveO
Mon, 08/10/2015 - 15:49 | 6411146 Theosebes Goodfellow
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Heh heh, that ol' Louie got the "angry black man" act down pat, don't he? Heh heh, "blue-eyed devils", heh! He's been workin' the bruthas' good for decades.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 17:26 | 6411281 Master Toms Dog
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Master is very enlightened.  He calls me Damnit, as in "Damnit -- come!!".  I like the name because he talks (or yells) about Damnation a LOT <wag>.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 19:29 | 6411976 TrulyBelieving
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Hi TT,        I wish to address Abe, "With that being said I'm pretty sure you and Loise can still be friends." 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 20:40 | 6412215 Greenie
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Hundreds of thousands of slaves freed during the civil war died from disease and hunger after being liberated, according to a new book.

The analysis, by historian Jim Downs of Connecticut College, casts a shadow over one of the most celebrated narratives of American history, which sees the freeing of the slaves as a triumphant righting of the wrongs of a southern plantation system that kept millions of black Americans in chains.

But, as Downs shows in his book, Sick From Freedom, the reality of emancipation during the chaos of war and its bloody aftermath often fell brutally short of that positive image. Instead, freed slaves were often neglected by union soldiers or faced rampant disease, including horrific outbreaks of smallpox and cholera. Many of them simply starved to death.

After combing through obscure records, newspapers and journals Downs believes that about a quarter of the four million freed slaves either died or suffered from illness between 1862 and 1870. He writes in the book that it can be considered "the largest biological crisis of the 19th century" and yet it is one that has been little investigated by contemporary historians.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/16/slavery-starvation-civil-war

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 18:43 | 6411808 A Nanny Moose
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Your downvoters probably still believe that the War of Northern Aggression was actually about slavery, and that the despot, Lincoln actually intended to abolish slavery despite documented evidence to the contrary, and despite the contradiction of 100's of thousands enslaved to fight his war for moar power.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 19:10 | 6411887 lunaticfringe
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I'm so sick of hearing that shit. Do tell, what were Lincoln's alternatives- kick the slavery can some more?

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 20:06 | 6412118 conscious being
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The obvious alternative was to let the South go. There is nothing in the Constitution about forcing states at gun point to remain in the union that want out.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 22:32 | 6412519 LibertarianMenace
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I never tire of hearing the truth. Read Northern Editorials on Secession. The South was right. That some do not understand this after more than a century and a half of hindsight is testament to the propaganda system we used to call education.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 19:27 | 6411966 HardAssets
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Lincoln also asked (in regard to states leaving the voluntary union) - -

" But who will pay for the government ? "

Abe was an insider crony lawyer for big corporations who had his own private rail road car.

Do a little research on ' Honest Abe ' and the myth crumbles. Quite shocking to an American after being subjected to propaganda all your life.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 22:26 | 6412501 LibertarianMenace
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Do one better and study his monetary policies during the war. The Fed has Dishonest to thank for its existence.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:51 | 6409944 More Ammo
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And let them hang there till they rot down... if the maggots will even touch them...

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 19:00 | 6411875 lunaticfringe
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I've always known Hillary was a woman. I look at her and all I see is one giant vagina. 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 20:15 | 6412143 Jstanley011
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"Where do the Dems find all these lying corrupt fat cunts?"

You must not get out much. Good Lord, they're everywhere.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:49 | 6409935 robertsgt40
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Texas will be here long after Lerner is pushing up daisies. 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:30 | 6410149 stant
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Texas will be the seat of power of the next confederacy. All states south of the Ohio and both sides of the Mississippi with be aligned

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 15:48 | 6411120 daveO
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And they can name the new communist north eastern nation Haavaadistan. jk

Can you believe her ignorance in that statement? Good ol' Abe started her agency. She should have a shrine to him! Outright chattel slavery of blacks was traded for fractional 'tax' slavery on all people. A big government wet dream come true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Revenue_Service

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:13 | 6409505 Stackers
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Well Louis and I do agree on one thing. Lincoln was the worst President and no he should not have launched his illegal war of aggression against the Southern states for exercising their 10th ammendment rights.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:20 | 6409530 TuPhat
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I think a lot of people will (including me ) agree with that.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:27 | 6409564 chunga
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There are quite a few who don't believe the war is over.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:10 | 6409761 SumTing Wong
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And isn't it about time that this happens again? We are more and more fractured. Choose your sides, and Jade Helm it up.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:56 | 6409968 Kolchak
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Yes because we're still reaping the rewards of continious war and isn't it lovely what we have...

 

Yes the answer is moar war you fucking moron.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:17 | 6411242 SumTing Wong
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I'm not wanting war, just a chance to peacefully go about my own business. Now if you want to bring war, I'm not going to back dwon from your bullshit. So you better be prepared, because I just might be a fucking moron with the ability to back up my opposition to your statist ideas.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 18:51 | 6411838 Johnbrown
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I recently went to the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC.

I brought my tripod and video camera.

I wanted to ask people:

"Would you have done the same if you had been President?"

I wanted them to reflect on the fact that they love Lincoln, a man who started a war, but they hate Bush, a man who did the same.

The result is this video. I hope you enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHrL3VvqZS8

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 13:10 | 6410587 DirkDiggler11
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The War of Northern Agression isn't over, it's just starting the second half. Odd thing this time around is that many folks living in the North agree with the Confederates now that the veil has been lifted off the power hungry Owellian Feds.. It looks like the only ones fighting for the Feds are the Free Shit Armies of Chicago, Detroit, New York, Philly, and of course Baltimore.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:16 | 6409787 greenskeeper carl
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I agree with her 100%. Lincoln was the worst president in history, and yes, he should have let the south go. Maybe it's a good thing people who think this way are in government. An interesting subject for thought- a United States divided into smaller, seperate countries also couldn't wage war to this extent either, and definitely couldn't attempt to dominate the entire planet.

My biggest fear about a a seperate, new confederacy in the south is that there are too many like mike huckabee, et al. Who would love to turn it into a semi religious theocracy. Despite all their 'limited govt' talk, I wouldn't want one of them In charge of writing a new constitution.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:54 | 6409957 NuckingFuts
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Yep, in today's world there is a good chance a sounthern confederacy would be Christian theocracy. Think Sharia type law written by holier then thou assholes. For those of you who do not visit there often, remember, there are STILL dry counties with no alcohol sales, whole states where booze and beer can't be sold in the same store (WTF is that?). Imagine all porn sites blocked, no condoms sold, etc... Etc....

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 13:22 | 6410661 Dental Floss Tycoon
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Bull shit!  Blue laws are mostly gone.  And those dry counties are just that, they are just counties.  You don't have to live there.  (And most of those dry counties have a thriving bootleg market.  As a friend of mine puts it,  "It's the perfect solution!  The wets got their whiskey and the drys got their prohabition."

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 20:47 | 6412227 willwork4food
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There's a lot of dry cities, and those that ban weapons.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 15:47 | 6411144 TemporarySecurity
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That is a good thing about being a Republic don't live there.  I look at it differently, there are some states that do not allow guns.  I choose to live in a state were no permit is needed for concealed carry.  I would be happy for California, New York city, Washington, etc to go away.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:01 | 6411172 daveO
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"...whole states where booze and beer can't be sold in the same store (WTF is that?)"

Here, in NC, the ABC was set up in the Depression to extort drinkers, a fallout of prohibition. Some people around here still make moonshine to avoid the taxes. Home brewing is a national phenomenon, for the same reason. As far as porn goes, the internet shut down nearly all of the massage parlors and book stores that used to be around. It turns out that preachers and deacons don't like to be spotted in the parking lots of those places.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States

Prohibition marked one of the last stages of the Progressive Era

Please don't come down here. There are far too many progressives here already.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 21:35 | 6412364 83_vf_1100_c
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  I live in a dry county in East TX. I like it. You run into a lot less drunken slobs in public. I am AA now 20 yrs. Just took a neighbor to the e-room Friday with a .43 BAC. He was admitted to ICU and his darling sister checked him out today. He will be drunk again by now. In out dry county. I've been known to smoke weed in the same cty where it is frowned upon. You simply cannot legislate morality. You can however make MMs if you are a lawyer/cop/prison/judge/etc...

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 23:49 | 6412697 buzzardsluck
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Quitter...

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:28 | 6410135 Milton Keynes
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A successful confederate succession would have sustained Slavery for a generation or two until a

very successful slave rebellion lead to the slaughter of every white male of age and the rape of every

white southern woman.

 

Slave Rebellions were a common feature of Classical civilization and as cruel as the Southern Planters were,

there would ultimately have been an explosion.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:49 | 6410236 stant
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No. , the advent of modern equipment would have driven slavery out of existence cause it dont work anyway. Thats why the war happened paniic of 1857. new yawk banks were broke because the brits failed on a gold payment . so the the little old south sits there pretty as can be because they didnt lever up like the north because they learned thier lesson from the panic of 1837 .The blackswould have moved to Detroit etc just like they did. All wars are bankers wars

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:48 | 6411200 Talleyrand
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No. Slavery is very much alive today. Modern political slavery differs in degree but not in principle from 19th Century chatle slavery. Political slavery seems to work quite well as many 21st Century slaves believe they are free.

The North fought their War to Prevent Southern Independence in defense of the notion that people can rightfully be compelled, through violence, to accept and submit to a government that they do not want. Political slavery is the norm today.

 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:48 | 6410242 SilverRhino
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Idiot.  Actually as the steam engine gained popularity and dropped in price, slaves would have become economically nonviable and they would have been freed and shipped back to Africa over the next few decades after secession. 

The South would have been white (and hispanic), and it would have also expanded west into Mexico over time.  

 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 12:11 | 6410356 rejected
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Of all the peoples that were made slaves in history, why does this bunch stand out?

Europe enslaved black, ( in a way still do), Asia and other areas too. Christ,  it was Denmark that brought the first shipload to the colonies and today they're one of the loudest accusers. Heck, the blacks in Africa was selling other blacks to the Europeons running the slave trades. 

And now after 150 years the usa is still the bogy man for something most all peoples done at one point or another in their history.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:13 | 6411228 Talleyrand
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Why? The absence of Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA makes this 'bunch' unique among the peoples of the World. It is that simple.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:17 | 6411238 daveO
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That's simply because the MSM, run by the NYC money lenders, are still in charge of DC. They took full control under FDR. They have been using that slavery tactic since Truman was in office, at least. My own mother had arguments with brainwashed Yankees, in DC, back then. That was back when DC was still white, believe it or not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_v._Kraemer 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 13:30 | 6410689 Dental Floss Tycoon
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Classical slavery would not have lasted very long.  Compared to modern debt slavery it is economically unsustainable.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:11 | 6411222 daveO
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Reminds me of this joke,

What do call a barn full of Obama's boys?- Antique farm equipment. 

What do call a barn full of illegal immigrants? -Modern farm equipment.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 17:26 | 6411532 Ethelred the Unready
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Haiti being a good example.   The night of the long knives.  All the French owners and families woke up dead.

 A separate South would have gradually moved to 80-90% slave  (see the Republic of South Africa which was at one time occupied by Dutch and (still) unemployable Bushmen.  The now dominant Zulus only came later - for the jobs. )    In this hypothetical CSA the free folks (of all colors) would have eventually fled North or West -  not being able to compete on economic grounds.  The most profitable plantations  would likely try to get by with the fewest "overseers".  Guess how that turns out?

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 20:22 | 6412162 conscious being
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Nat Turner tried that. It did not work out for him. John Brown took over the Harpers Ferry armoury and waited for the slaves to rush in and grab some weapons. They never arrived.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:59 | 6411407 Cloud9.5
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No need to write a new constitution.  We simply need to live by the old one.  That would prevent a theocracy.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 20:14 | 6412141 greenskeeper carl
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On one hand, you are right, but on the other hand, if that piece of paper was enough to contain a federal govt, we wouldn't be in the situation we find ourselves in today, and wouldn't even be having this conversation. I really don't know what the solution is, aside from no govt whatsoever, but from my reading of history, the original articles of confederation was a head and shoulders above the constitution as far as states rights and the limits of federal govt go. which is probably why many of our sainted founding fathers didnt like it, as it limited their new found power(hamilton for example)

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:56 | 6409655 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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As I stated earlier, your country is an historic mess.

To be quite frank, I have much sympathy for miss Lerner's point of view. When one part of your nation has successfully flown people to the Moon, and now launches visionary missions of exploration to other planets such as Mars, while also seeking to transcend barriers of culture and ethnicity to usher in a post-racial society, it is at best frustrating to continuously get dragged down again by people who appear immune to reason and education; i.e. racists and creationists.

Since such individuals appear to congregate in the southern states of America, I can see how it would be a tempting thought to simply cut them loose, and watch them devolve into a new type of Dark Age.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:56 | 6409693 Variance Doc
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You are galactically stupid.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:11 | 6409768 SumTing Wong
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And where do you suppose Houston and Cape Canaveral are, shit for brains?

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:29 | 6410139 Milton Keynes
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And how many of the top leadership were transplants put there by LBJ trying to modernize the south?

 

 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:54 | 6410260 JRobby
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He tried.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:22 | 6411256 Talleyrand
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LBJ...what a shit stain he was.

 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 12:47 | 6410492 Tall Tom
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NOT MANY.

 

And how many transplants from Southern Universities move North? (NOT MANY.)

 

Let's see...

 

Geophysicists and Geoenginers that are employed by the Petrochemical Industries are just flat out morons. There was no Oil Industry until after LBJ, right?

 

The Rocket Scientists from Operation Paperclip at the Redstone facility were not placed in Huntsville, Alabama...until after LBJ, right?

 

Texas Instruments, a world renowned corporation, was not a Private Corporation but was introduced as a measure of LBJ's Great Society, right?

 

In fact if it had not been for LBJ the Southern USA would have remained backwards and lost in the mire of ignorance, right?

 

(The examples which I have listed are few. Where was the art of Organ Transplants perfected? It certainly did not happen in New England. If my memory serves me correct it was done, first in the USA, in Houston. Apartheid South Africa was where it happened first.)

 

Now I am not a Texan. In fact I live in Southern California. Many Texans hate me...just because of my location because they are ignorant as to the politics where I am located. As Austin is a SOCIALIST Paradise it would be most unfair to generalize the entire state if Texas as to the Austinites behavior and proclivities. Likewise it is unfair of people in the USA to generalize San Diego County, Orange County, and the rural counties of California because of the SOCIALIST politics of San FAGcisco, LOST Angeles, and Sacdemento.

 

HOWEVER I AM INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH.

 

You are interested in promoting DISTORTION...as your response DEMONSTRATES.

 

So just where are you located, SOCIALIST?

 

Certainly your post is NOT mundane and is a flight of fantasy.

 

I am happy to be mundane. Thanks for the laugh.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:22 | 6411252 daveO
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Ok, you just made another argument against the South, by invoking that coup member's name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson

Anyways, the modernization wasn't necessary prior to the invasion. Just like all the other wars to destroy and rebuild brought to us by the same DC-NYC power brokers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman%27s_March_to_the_Sea

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 13:38 | 6410722 Richard Whitney
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Larssen is galactically stupid. He is also a European, which is largely the same thing. The Euros, viscerally aware of the failure of their own society, are venomous towards the United States. This is localized to them. In contrast, Asians are particularly warm and friendly toward the United States and its citizens. Europeans harbor deep resentments toward Americans. You can tell by reading their newspapers, their bestseller lists, their political commentary. They are doomed.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:56 | 6409695 viahj
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try fixing your own continent.

also, you do realize that NASA and JPL are in the "South" dontcha?

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:27 | 6409835 wisefool
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We will hapily give them and Elons musk's stuff back. In fact we'll help them move out.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:58 | 6409714 MrPalladium
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You and your fellow northern Europeans are just beginning to encounter the joys of multiculturalism and the peaceful tranquility of Africanized cities. On a long enough time frame the knockout game targeting whites goes to infinity. 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:01 | 6409718 Marvin the Martian
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Pick up a map or a history book sometime dipshit.

Nevermind, just have fun in "mars" queef.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:16 | 6409785 Polonius
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We may need to come to grips with the very high probability that NASA is a complete fraud.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:19 | 6409794 post turtle saver
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your sarc tag is missing

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:33 | 6411279 daveO
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+10

Folks need to connect the dots. Nixon(69), first manned moon landing(69), gold window shut(71), last manned moon(72). 

Gus Grissom was slated to be the first man on the moon, but ran his mouth a little bit too much.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=83397

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:18 | 6409791 post turtle saver
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as I recall, it was the US Northeast crowd (MIT etc) which was spitting mad bullshit about how going to the Moon would be impossible, manned flight in space was certain death, etc.

it was Texas, California, and Florida that got us there, though... funny that...

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 12:02 | 6410312 rejected
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There are some interesting questions concerning the usa's flight to the moon.

The Van Allen radiation belt.

The 'lost' moon rocks

The 'overwritten' original tapes made of the landing.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:45 | 6409914 mtl4
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MDB, are you posting under a new screen name now?!

 

As for Ms Lerner, time to unleash the Kraken!

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:52 | 6410239 rejected
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And Cape Canaveral is where exactly? 

When they said we have a problem Houston,,, they were talking to Houston Pennsylvania?

Visionary Expeditions to Mars.... using Russian Engines like today?

 

EDIT: Maybe Abortion in certain circumstances is a good thing.

 

 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 15:48 | 6411139 VisionQuest
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The Apollo engine system was designed & first assembled & tested in Huntsville, Alabama. People in Nashville say their windows shook the when they tested the thing. Apollo Mission Control was in Houston Texas. Every Apollo mission was launched from the Cape in Florida. And that is just 3 of the many other things that I and millions of others like about the South.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeLy8C-g27Y

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:12 | 6411223 papaswamp
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Europe is being slowly engulfed by the poor masses from M.E. and Africa. They are concentrating in ethnically homogenious neighborhoods and riot and commit crime on a regular basis.......enjoy your demise.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 16:36 | 6411302 RaceToTheBottom
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Southxit?

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 21:24 | 6412324 Umh
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You really are clueless.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:50 | 6409666 world_debt_slave
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yep

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 10:26 | 6409823 XitSam
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Both sides in the Civil War were wrong.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 17:25 | 6411526 Cloud9.5
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Seventy five percent of southern whites did not own slaves.  Of the twenty five percent who did, the vast majority owned one and he or she lived in the house with the slave owner.  Yes there were plantations like those owned by the Chestnuts.  They were the old south’s one percenters.  Most southerners black and white who fought the armies of the north did so because the north was all about pillage.  Defending your life and your property does not put you on the wrong side of history.

 

Because the radical republicans who came after Lincoln rewrote history we now see a war that was all about conquest and control being remembered as a noble war of liberation.  I have no doubt that a good many of the men who fought and bled for the north believed that to be so.  That belief in no small way allowed them to assuage their conscience of the many wrongs they committed and justify the killing of many good men and boys.

 

 

What most of them failed to do was to look at the motives of those who got them in to that war.  What they never investigated was how that war benefited the bankers and the railroad tycoons.  So, Lincoln sits in his temple like Jupiter and is remembered as the great emancipator.  

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:27 | 6409563 Payne
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Prosecute her for a hate crime, she is clearly a hater.  Maybe she is a cyber bully.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:33 | 6409587 Arnold
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There would actually have to be a Justice Department to do that.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:10 | 6409814 JRobby
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No, sadly.

Ideas that dominated the 15th, 16th and 17th centuries are still around.

 

 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 15:27 | 6411077 Cynicles
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“We really do seem to have [two] different mind sets.”

Indeed.
One is that of the tyrant, the other is not.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 21:14 | 6412299 New_Meat
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Yo, Stroke, how they hangin' ?

I'm a sure that the 7 (so far) down-voter low-information reddie-servers have no clue as to the origin of your content.

Prolly' think that it has somthin 2 du wit blood coming outta' whatevah.

Done good on this post dude,

- Ned

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:10 | 6409487 drendebe10
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Wutta typical divisive nasty intolerant progressive liberal democrap kunt.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:19 | 6409527 Montani Semper ...
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+1 for using seven adjectives in a nine word sentence.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:28 | 6409568 Sturm und Drang
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Superlative.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 21:16 | 6412303 New_Meat
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The .gov does this in spadez:

The Deputy Assistant Undersecretary ...

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:25 | 6409555 Monetas
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A Hitleryesque claw back ploy .... after her criminal acts against the Tea Party .... hang the cunt !

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:14 | 6410050 Obamamerica
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As if McConnell and Boehner would do anything different. They all are on the same team. Team "Screw the American People" 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:18 | 6410051 Bit Coin Hacker
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I have been a ZH fan from the begining. A few years later I found Wall St. was saturating membership. Then only Tyler, B7, and GW as contributers. All the sudden Fuckin' Cramer Ads and Popups. What The Fuck! The vioces with any intelligence GONE.

The "NEW" ZH uses Market Watch, WSJ, Bloomberg etc. Many new dipshits trolls clogging up space. Racism Rampant. I would go on but I'm vomiting at this moment.

#1 Founders were racists, "All Men Created Equal." Slaves were considered 4/5 Man.

#2 You sorry Fucks. Lincoln was a racist. Civil War wasn't about freeing slaves. It was about succession of the South with power money players in England and France.

This is from His 4th Debate Charleston, Ill.

 I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, [applause]-that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.



Mon, 08/10/2015 - 11:52 | 6410256 JRobby
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Thank you BCH.

 

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 12:55 | 6410527 Doubleguns
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3/5 not 4/5 but your other info was spot on. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Fifths_Compromise

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 21:29 | 6412338 New_Meat
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"I have been a ZH fan from the begining."

sez a member of 2 weeks and 5 hours. and not to distract from your point.  You make good points.  I was rather older and had sworn an oath when I heard the term "War of Northern Aggression"

Prolly u kan establish ur street credz 'n' have mor effective outrage, such as turning off the fucking bold.

But as others, ur messg b gd

- Ned

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:08 | 6409460 VinceFostersGhost
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We should close down that Abraham Lincoln memorial.....what a hater.

 

Yes, I know it's not the whole story....but this is where I stop today.

 

Lois Lerner for Fuhrer!

 

Can I get a Seig Heil my bitchez?

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:04 | 6409461 exi1ed0ne
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 Abraham Lincoln the country’s worst president. . . He should [have] let the south go

She isn't wrong though.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:07 | 6409475 Baa baa
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We would be much happier had that been the outcome.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 21:31 | 6412343 New_Meat
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yo, black sheep bleeting:

There is a really good author named Turtledove who explores "that outcome" in some detail.  Go read the series, then call back.

-  Ned

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:09 | 6409483 Peter Pan
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"Lincoln Should Have Let The South Go..."

Well it's never too late.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 21:32 | 6412344 New_Meat
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dem b a'tryin'

don't cha  know

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:22 | 6409538 detached.amusement
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What the heck are some people smoking?  "Not letting the south go" = "making them equally responsible for the debts and largesse of the north"

 

Civil War had NOTHING to do with Slavery!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Should have let tejas go, indeed *rolleyes* 

 

Doesnt pass muster for anyone who's actually studied history, and not all of the fictitous "we had to do a civil war to free the slaves" bullshit.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:29 | 6409576 LawsofPhysics
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Texas will be quite happy not to send any revenues/taxes to D.C. fuck em.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:35 | 6409597 Arnold
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Austin might be negotiable, though.

Mon, 08/10/2015 - 09:51 | 6409669 VinceFostersGhost
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Austin....a single blueberry in the middle of a big cherry pie..

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