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Families Of 9/11 Victims On Verge Of Proving Government Cover-Up In Court

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Submitted by SM Gibson via TheAntiMedia.org,

For many years, rumors have circulated regarding the U.S. government’s involvement in an active cover-up of a sinister connection between Saudi Arabia and the terrorist attacks of 9/11. In fact, 28 redacted pages from a congressional intelligence report  are said to contain damning information that implicates the Saudis in the 2001 mass murder of American citizens. Despite a bipartisan effort to release the information, the now notorious 28 pages are still being withheld from the public under the predictable guise of “national security.”

Now, thanks to a federal lawsuit in a Manhattan court, there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.

Two authors of the concealed pages may soon be called to testify in a court case currently pending against the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Former FBI investigator Michael Jacobson and former Justice Department attorney Dana Lesemann, both of whom investigated the terror strikes for the FBI, were given the assignment to track down possible leads connecting Saudi officials to the hijackers and then document their findings. The evidence they compiled was recorded in the infamous 28 pages.

The duo also went on to work with the independent 9/11 Commission, where they unveiled even more corroboration. They uncovered an association between the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles, the Saudi Embassy in Washington D.C., and the the tragic events in 2001.

At a court hearing on July 30, lawyers for the victims’ families stated that the most major of allegations against the Saudis were purposefully left out of the final draft of the 9/11 Commission report.

“They were removed at the 11th hour by the senior staff,” said attorney Sean Carter, who called the decision a “political matter.”

 

“[T]hey had documented a direct link between the Saudi government and the Sept. 11 plot based on the explosive material they had uncovered concerning the activities of Fahad al-Thumairy and Omar al-Bayoumi,” explained Carter.

Thumairy worked as a religious cleric and Saudi diplomat in Los Angeles at the time, while Bayoumi was employed by the Saudi Arabian Civil Aviation Authority in San Diego.

The judge presiding over the case now has a 60-90 day window to either dismiss the case or proceed on behalf of the victims’ families.

Jerry Goldman, an attorney for the plaintiffs, feels good about the future of the proceedings.

“(The Judge) wasn’t buying their spin,” Goldman said. “The burden is on the kingdom to prove we are wrong, and they didn’t do that.”

With so many unanswered questions surrounding 9/11, there is no telling what may be disclosed if the case is allowed to move forward.

The terrifying reality is that if the Saudis are found guilty of involvement in the events of 9/11, such a conclusion would only raise more questions than it would answer. Who inside the United States government would be covering for the kingdom of Saudi Arabia for so many years— and more importantly, why?

 

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Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:34 | 6416132 JC-BI
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911 happened because IsraHell is the problem and The US Govt covered it up since AIPAC has got it by the balls>>

https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/09/14/israel-is-the-problem/

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:43 | 6416167 McCormick No. 9
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Jacobson, Lesemann, Goldman... all saying the Saudi's did it. I googled Lesemann's name and guess who popped up, also blaming the Saudis? Pamela Geller. The fix is INNNNN, and the Saudis take the fall.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:46 | 6416179 knukles
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I still wanna know where the gold went.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/gold.html

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:49 | 6416190 Agstacker
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Gold?  Who would want that barbarous relic?

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:51 | 6416201 knukles
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The Saudis, huh?  Well with what's gone on with them and us recently, whatever is disclosed can't drag relationships much further.
So at this point what does it matter anyhow?

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:01 | 6416235 Chupacabra-322
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Be sure to supenoa Sibel Edmonds. No doubt she hace much to testify in Court about the False Flag of 911.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:06 | 6416259 Fukushima Sam
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And from the Saudi's it leads to Bush...  (Senior is the mastermind.)

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:13 | 6416286 Terminus C
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Yep, limited hangout and straw man defenses all in one.

Golly gee, we can now put that conspiracy to rest.  The Saudi's did it!

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:36 | 6416380 SuperRay
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This goes all the way back to the kennedy assassination.  The CIA put out a document using the term 'conspiracy theory' to attack anyone who questioned the Warren commission report.  Why?  Why would the CIA, an organization who (supposedly) only worked outside the United States and not domestically, even be involved in anything having to do with the Warren Commission?  Because Allen Dulles masterminded the assassination.  And it's been going downhill ever since.  The Saudi's are a distraction.   Could they have arranged for all those war games on 9/11?  YOu'd have to be a moron to believe that the towers "collapsed" from a plane impact.  Just look at the video of the explosions with your eyes and not your (brainwashed) mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3lq7nr6098

   Cheney and Tenet and the generals are all complicit.  And so are all the assholes who know 9/11 was a huge power grab.  The bigger the lie the more people will believe it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

and if you actually give a shit about this...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36585.htm

 People are so fucking stupid.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:53 | 6416886 SameAsItEverWas
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Don't forget the Pentagon where there was no aircraft debris and a hole in the building made by a missile not an airplane fuselage.  But what kind of missile was it, exactly? 

The people here are worse than stupid, and the so-called journalists who spout the current regime's propaganda are all morons.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 23:31 | 6416999 bigkahuna
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for some reason, I don't think they are fooling anyone here.

It seems like attempt to deflect because these people are getting close to finally getting the truth out to the sheep - the freakin truth has been running rampant everywhere except for among the sheep - who awkwardly seem to run this country? Damn.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:10 | 6417218 TeamDepends
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First of all, can we all admit that NONE of us knows EXACTLY what happened that day? Good. Let's start with the Official Story: Nineteen non-pilots hijack four planes and three of them bullseye their targets. This is quite impossible and completely laughable. In the video you will see a plane slice through the tower like a hot knife through butter. In the real world the mostly aluminum plane would crumple against the steel building and fall to the street. But then it emerges out the other side INTACT! The nose is not even slightly damaged! UNPOSSIBLE. The "planes" were photoshopped. Building 7 contained mountains of incriminating evidence of insider trading and other dirty deeds. The CIA, Mossad, Bush family, and Cheney are the main culprits. The Saudis may have contributed cash and/or patsies (bin Laden), but it appears they may be the scapegoats unless the world wakes up and demands the truth.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i73XmZUxnVo

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:54 | 6417282 Dsyno
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Idiot.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 06:25 | 6417461 not dead yet
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So your saying all those witnesses were stoned when they saw the planes hit the towers. The 3 buildings in question were beer cans, all the strength in the outside walls and large open spaces inside. That's why the towers sides were built straight up not stepped like the Empire State. You assume every building was built like the Empire State with huge girders in a box frame construction. Look at the videos of the construction of both buildings and see the difference. We've all crushed beer cans and it takes a lot of effort to do so, unless you put a kink in the side then the effort needed is minimal. Building 7 was heavily damaged on one side by debris from the main towers collapsing. They set up devices to measure the movement of the building which eventually led them to the conclusion the building was going to collapse so they abandoned it. Another beer can bit the dust.

 

The pilots targeted those 3 buildings because they were easy to hit. Really, all those buildings can be clearly seen from miles away. The only thing laughable is your ignorant assumption.

 

On one conspiracy website where like you they claimed a plane didn't hit the Pentagon there was a picture of the hole in the building with pieces of an airplane scattered about. They were as blind as you. There was a camera in the parking lot that caught the whole episode and it was definately an airplane going in.

 

There was a claim that traces of explosives were found on site. If those buildings were blown the whole city would have been covered in residue and the smell would have permeated the air for miles around. The amount of explosives needed would have been huge and the effort to install them would have taken weeks if not months to avoid detection. Yet how could they obtain such quantities without detection let alone go undetected to install them.

 

It is estimated that thousands of people were needed to pull off this incident yet not one person has come forward to snitch yet there are thousands who saw it happen live as we all saw it on TV. There have not been thousands of murders to keep them quiet. Not one shred of evidence has been presented that the buildings were blown or the planes were photoshopped except in the minds of tools like you. I love how the most popular skeptical video was done by 3 teens hanging out in their bedroom. Hardly a ringing endorsement. It's very possible it was a false flag by the US government and was set up with the Saudis. Very few people involved in the planning and execution with most of them overseas. This is why you are a tool. People like you come up with this wacky crap that no one in their right mind will believe so they look no further than the events themselves. Which is what the government wants and covertly encourages if they were involved. If it really was a false flag, which is possible, it's people like you that help the governments cause in keeping a lid on the Saudi connection and the ultimate truth.

 

 

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 06:30 | 6417465 not dead yet
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Correction to the first line of the last paragraph. It is estimated that thousands of people would be required to pull off this incident if it happened the way the conspiracy theorists claim it did.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 10:39 | 6418233 detached.amusement
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shut up you dupe, you know nothing

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 07:07 | 6417530 Rakshas
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.....disappear like this you mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjhxuhTmGk

 

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 02:54 | 6417327 PhysicalRealm
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The Amazing Penta-lawn!  Exclusively tested at the Pentagon 09/11/01

http://killtown.911review.org/pentalawn.html

 

 

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 00:38 | 6417160 cornflakesdisease
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Don't forget those "Bush Bonds" that were coming due  . . . .

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:43 | 6417267 turnoffthewater
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SuperRay +100

The fact that it has taken 14 yrs says everything.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:42 | 6416850 Luc X. Ifer
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Saudi's did it as a payback service to Bush family. Bush the 1st was under investigation by FBI for dodging billions of $ in crapy self-defense contracts so they needed that stopped. Just follow the money, nothing sinister or extra complicated, as usual illegal transfer of wealth by the  top corrupt politics. And with it they used the opportunity to work hard to enslave further the main street. 

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 00:35 | 6417157 MontgomeryScott
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DEEPER.

HARDER.

You are trying to melt the tip of the iceberg with icewater.

NOT EVEN CLOSE, by the way (but you have found the hint of a foul scent, like a good detective should and will).

I'm still working on 'Who Killed John O'Neill'. It's like a sweet-tasting bread in the mouth; that when swallowed absolutely tears out your guts. HF trading has something to do with it, by the way, as well as all the 'futures contracts' and bond obligations that were coming due on 11/12 September (2001).

FOLLOW THE LINKS and the TRAIL will become easily apparent.

The MASS MURDER in BROAD DAYLIGHT by CONTROLLED DEMOLITION of the THREE buildings of 3,000 people isn't a 'loss', in the eyes of the sociopaths that pulled it off. In FACT, it's a 'win-win-win' situation. It's like that sitcom in the '70's, called 'All In The family'; actually.

YOU are bringing a KNIFE to a GUNFIGHT, you silly young satan-worshipping thing!

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 00:40 | 6417168 cornflakesdisease
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You mean the bonds used to bring down and buy out the Soviet Union?

 

Hey, wasn't it the Saudis turning the oil on full throttle that nixed the Soviets in 1986?

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 00:45 | 6417176 Luc X. Ifer
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I'm worshiping reasoning and  this is not joke, these things were spoken by powerful people on top levels of the power structure

 

http://investmentwatchblog.com/1-day-before-911-2-3-trillion-missing-fro...

 

September 10th 2001 Secretary of Defense of the USA declared war on the Pentagon bureaucracy over an alleged $2.3 trillion in unaccounted for funds on expenses, the next day 9/11 happened and the previous day’s headlines were over-shadowed by the start of the Bush administration’s modern-day crusade the ‘War on Terror’ supported by the mythical ‘Coalition of the Willing’ in search of ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction’ and ‘Taliban fighters’ the $2.3 trillion was later quietly ‘found’ to have just been a computer error ...

 



 

 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:25 | 6416340 robobbob
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he's not even close to the end of the trail

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 23:37 | 6417031 Ignatius
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Hat tip to the ZH community.  I went through most of the comments and, based on my extensive research of 9/11, ZH'rs quickly spot and call out the false trails, false memes, bullshit arguments, poisoned wells and disinformation themes and agents quite well.  Very impressive for a site that doesn't make 9/11 the center of its focus.  When the king is naked the ZH community calls it as it sees it, even when it hurts.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 23:57 | 6417082 Radical Marijuana
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Amen.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:31 | 6417252 Alvin Fernald
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I concur. To see how retarded the official story is watch this video:
https://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 03:16 | 6417345 bunnyswanson
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMBqZBPZ8S0

Charlie Sheen demands Obama investigate WTC 7 - (couple minutes)

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:31 | 6416362 tmosley
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"We can't allow a US president that isn't aligned with our interests because if we did, the fury of America would be turned against us."

-Saudi and their closest ally Israel

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:59 | 6416454 SWRichmond
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Who inside the United States government would be covering for the kingdom of Saudi Arabia for so many years—

Bush

and more importantly, why?

Money

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:24 | 6416542 Bad Lieutenant
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SWR, you can do way better than that.  Kindly Induldge us (and me!).

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 00:39 | 6417165 MontgomeryScott
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'ARBUSTO'.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:24 | 6416543 Bad Lieutenant
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SWR, you can do way better than that.  Kindly Induldge us (and me!).

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:04 | 6416248 SafelyGraze
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gold.

green and gold.

wrapped in a flag.

 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:10 | 6416496 Ass Burger
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"Kill the Messenger," a good doc on Sibel Edmonds (be still my heart). She uncovered arms trading between the US and Turkey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiOtBqKyDYg

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:22 | 6416777 monad
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Corbett Report - Sibel Edmonds describes why US troops are now in Turkey. Interesting parallels with current domestic ops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAiAFqXPwZ8

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 00:49 | 6417180 MontgomeryScott
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James Corbett and James Evan Pilatto from 'Media Monarchy' back in the old days while 'podcasting' from Oregon are STILL going.

They archived the 'links' page way back when, but in case you don't have it, here it is:

http://mediamonarchy.blogspot.com/2009/09/website-links-from-media-monar...

I personally miss 'Wide Eye Cinema':

http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=1078

Those 'conspiracy theorists' were RIGHT, AFTER ALL!


 

 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:00 | 6416710 Freddie
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Oddly enough, Dr. Jim Willie has said that the USA and UK have been stealing all the Saudi gold in London warehouses.

Willie and maybe one or two others have been saying watch the hard pivot away from the Saudis to Iran by the USA.   This may be more evidence of it.

Why the pivot?  My guess is elites and intel agencies know the Saudi oil fields, which are mainly Ghawar, are dying rapidly.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:11 | 6416743 IndyPat
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Breaking up is hard to do.

Bet BathHouse still kisses the ring though. For old time sake.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:50 | 6416194 Winston Churchill
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But it was so hot it vaporized structural steel, and the gold knuks.

Bah bah,

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:56 | 6416221 knukles
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Hah ha ha ha, I remember Guliani standing there less than a week later with the smouldering pile of rubble behind him and stating that the gold's been recovered.
OK OK, so it never happened. 
What a clusterfuck

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:17 | 6416312 logicalman
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If fire can bring 3 steel framed buildings down in their pretty much their own footprint atclose to free fall speed, all the demolition experts on earth are suddenly out of a job.

All you need to do is start a fire in the office and stand well back.

 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:23 | 6416330 negative rates
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That and a plane full of fuel to weaken the structure, and feed the fire.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:31 | 6416366 Mr Pink
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Yeah....sure....how many planes hit WTC7?

You have to be dumber than a bag of hammers to actually believe that crap you posted

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:54 | 6416435 Bilderberg Member
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This is a news story about an FBI agent telling a court he warned officials in Washington 70 times of a hijacking plot he had uncovered prior to 9/11:

http://www.wnd.com/2006/03/35348/

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:32 | 6416453 nmewn
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So thats what "Truthers" are down to now, WT7?

Given up on the whole pre-planted nanothermite exactly where the planes hit, jet hologram production movies and voice recognition software as being tooo...oh how can I put this delicately for the true believers...intricately planned, easily escapable...death trap at WT7?...lol.

Good grief.

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I do love the complete insanity of these threads, I now have (but not for long...lol) six down voters who believe in some variation of OR ALL of..."pre-planted nanothermite exactly where the planes hit, jet hologram production movies and voice recognition software"? 

Prince Turki al-Faisal and Prince Alwaleed bin Talal are up to their beady little eyeballs in it.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:36 | 6416609 Mr. Frosty
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Even Wikipedia admits;

 

"The collapse made the old 7 World Trade Center the first tall building known to have collapsed primarily due to uncontrolled fires, and the first and only steel skyscraper in the world to have collapsed due to fire."

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:02 | 6416671 nmewn
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Hard to believe a double 2.3 followed by a 2.4 earthquake (the twin towers collapsing) registered from 34km away would result in any structural damage to WT7 which is on fire, no doubt.

Here we go...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d45_1320106542

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian/WTC/Seismic/WTC_LDEO_KIM.htm

//////////

Well its been fun bois, ya'll look me up sometime and I'll splain the age old dynamics of a simple bellows for forging steel.

Nighty night ;-)

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:13 | 6416751 trulz4lulz
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Maybe you should focus on the laws of entropy instead.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 06:50 | 6417486 nmewn
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That isn't flames being observed shooting out from the lobby to the fifth floor of WT7 in the vid beginning @ :39...no no no...our eyes are playing tricks on us.

These are not the droids you're looking for, move along.

The other definition of entropy is the breakdown of order, of uniformity, so in that regard everything was going along just fine, the inconclusive dead theories & opinions of everyone amounting to absolutely nothing was orderly & uniform on this thread, everyone just marching to the same basic tune.

And then...chaos out of this order, get him, kill him, he's one of the evil doers! We must have order!

Yeah, its entropy alright...lol.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 08:46 | 6417790 snodgrass
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So whore, how much do they pay you to post on this site? Is it a full time job or are you just contract help?

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 18:42 | 6420246 nmewn
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Well douchebag, it's completely free of charge on my part, the same as your lame ass memes. But I will admit I do get a certain amount of enjoyment in watching you fucking freaks pounce on every 911 rabbit carcass that gets thrown down in front of you guys.

So tell me snotgrass, you really did believe (or do you still?...lol) in all that holographic jet airliner/nanothermite planting/voice-to-skull software horseshit that controlled-ops threw into the middle of your little feasting frenzy dintcha or are you one?

Meanwhile, I was the one saying it was complete bullshit.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 20:23 | 6420514 snodgrass
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No you are bullshit, you and your kind. A peer review study established nanothermites were found in the dust. Steel frame skyscrapers don't collapse into their own footprint from small fires. Bombs were experienced going off in the basement of the buildings before the planes hit two of the towers. The third just fell - no doubt in sympathy with the others. Probably the plane that went down in Penn. was supposed to hit the third tower. Silverstein had to "pull it" instead. Israelis were seen filming the planes coming in and hitting the towers. Those images were being sent to Bush and Cheney. Other Israelis were picked up with explosive residues in their vans. The arrested Israelis even went on TV in Israel later to talk about it. You are so far off base it's laughable. So go back to whereever you came from and die asshole.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 00:13 | 6416980 Rakshas
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...........mission accomplished nmewn, I assume you were going for facetious ASSHAT of the evening there...... 

...though I do agree the Saudis did it, the IsrNAZI's did it arguments are tiresome and quite limited on the whole.  In fact most of the 911 postings on ZH seem to lack any meaningful analysis of who did it, how and why with the WHY being the quintessential query. For that the events of the day before - Rumdumb announcement of the missing 2.3 trillion and the day after 240 Billion in spook money bonds al la GWH Bush- on this EP Heidners analysis in Collateral Damage... offers a compelling case that implicates the American administrations in 911back to the Carter days with infinitely more evidence than has ever been tabled by said USof Asshole regimes prior to the commencement of their various genocidal campaigns. 

The HOW involves the development of circumstances that are so far beyond the capacity of any state to - other than the gold ol' deep state - to execute let alone a cave dwelling shit stain half a world away.  Israel involvement, my vote yeah maybe consultants or puppet masters, the house of Saud again in as much as they are members of the board of corporations Deep State yeah maybe but neither the Saudis nor the Israelis have the ability to deploy multiple war games on the day - I realize both have the strings of the average DC fucktards but GHW Bush, Richard Cheney and his gang are not the puppets of such states, these fuckers are the - sorry to repeat- quintessential psychopaths this cabal has absolutely no reservations about killing by the millions - they have done and will continue to do until their return to hell.

Sadly it has been nearly a decade and a half since the events of 911 and still the tail chasing goes on, as Mike Ruppert, god rest his soul, put it in 2005 "911was an elephant that ran over us and is moving away but we've got a herd of charging elephants coming right at us" .......... it has been a decade since he made that statement as part of a warning about recognizing the MO of the deep state and here we are right where he suggested we would be. 

The events of 911 claimed nearly 3000 lives on the day but the perpetrating cabal is responsible for literally 1000 times that many deaths since, Saudi/Israel nothing more than who gives a fuck no amount of string pulling by puppet masters can explain away the genocide committed in our names and increasingly in our communities.

But hey if you want to shove your head even farther up your ass go ahead, just don't expect the rest of us to believe you are selling pretzels.......

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:25 | 6417207 maxwellsdemon
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Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:05 | 6417208 maxwellsdemon
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To know who did it, just follow the money.  Larry Silvestein, the owner of WTC 7, leased WTC 1 and 2 for 99 years, JUST 6 WEEKS BEFORE 911.  Before signing the  99 year leases on the MONEY LOSING TOWERS, he made sure to get a double payoff clause written in if the they were destoyed by terrorists and he wrote a clause that if he was not allowed to get the money and build new towers, he would get a BILLION DOLLAR payoff.   All for putting down a few million dollars down payment on the lease, money which was refunded to him after the attack by the Port Authority.

 

Who are Larry's friends?  The Saudi's?  I don't thinks so; think of a another country in the middle east, a country that really benefitted from 911.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 03:17 | 6417347 Rakshas
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....just another worthless opinion of course, but I hold Larry Shitstain about as culpable as a shylock in the greater mafioso collective, a public face, a front a bagman if you will still part of the criminal syndicate but really nothing more than a....... well...... shit stain on Cheney's drawers in the grand scheme of things.  There is so much more to the story; 911 events are the tip of the iceberg and the money Shitstain sorry to keep repeating but I can't spell Silverstein :-) at any rate follow the drug money out of Afghanistan since the 2002 deployment of the Poppy Security Force,  well never mind my babbling here:

In Afghanistan, the reported production of 3600 tons of opium in 2003 would allow for the production of approximately 360,000 kg of pure heroin. Gross revenues accruing to Afghan farmers are roughly estimated by the UNODC to be of the order of $1 billion, with 1.3 billion accruing to local traffickers.

When sold in Western markets at a heroin wholesale price of the order of $100,000 a kg (with a 70 percent purity ratio), the global wholesale proceeds (corresponding to 3600 tons of Afghan opium) would be of the order of 51.4 billion dollars. The latter constitutes a conservative estimate based on the various figures for wholesale prices in the previous section. "

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-spoils-of-war-afghanistan-s-multibillio...

 

Oh and don't forget it gets leveraged via the stock, bond and currency markets .......... 

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 02:12 | 6417300 Cypher_73
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Not to mention:

"Six months before the 9/11 attacks the World Trade Center was "privatized" by being leased to a private sector developer. The lease was purchased by the Silverstein Group for $3.2 billion. "This is a dream come true," Larry Silverstein said."

I serioiusly doubt that it's a coincidence that Silverstein is a Jew himself either. 

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 02:12 | 6417301 Cypher_73
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Not to mention:

"Six months before the 9/11 attacks the World Trade Center was "privatized" by being leased to a private sector developer. The lease was purchased by the Silverstein Group for $3.2 billion. "This is a dream come true," Larry Silverstein said."

I serioiusly doubt that it's a coincidence that Silverstein is a Jew himself either. 

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 02:12 | 6417302 Cypher_73
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Not to mention:

"Six months before the 9/11 attacks the World Trade Center was "privatized" by being leased to a private sector developer. The lease was purchased by the Silverstein Group for $3.2 billion. "This is a dream come true," Larry Silverstein said."

I serioiusly doubt that it's a coincidence that Silverstein is a Jew himself either. 

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:14 | 6417209 MontgomeryScott
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I never pictured you as a suckass of the Oligarchy, NMEWN.

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Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:21 | 6417239 maxwellsdemon
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A truly laughable part of the NIST analysis of WTC 7 was their decision to model steel girders as having zero thermal conductance.   It meant that an office fire in contact with a small piece of a massive steel girder, would cause that small piece to heat up to the hottest temperature of the fire and severely weaken it, while the rest of the girder is at room termperature. 

 

NIST really outdid itself.  That had to outdo that other agency which FEMA arrived in NYC on September 10 for a drill of a mass casulity drill in NYC scheduled for September 12.  So when 911 happened, hundreds of FEMA agents converged on the WTC site and took it over, preventing the NYC fire department from testing for explosives as they are required to do when any building collapses.   And many buildings collapsed that day, but none were allowed to be tested for accelerants or explosives by FEMA

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:22 | 6417240 maxwellsdemon
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A truly laughable part of the NIST analysis of WTC 7 was their decision to model steel girders as having zero thermal conductance.   It meant that an office fire in contact with a small piece of a massive steel girder, would cause that small piece to heat up to the hottest temperature of the fire and severely weaken it, while the rest of the girder is at room termperature. 

 

NIST really outdid itself.  That had to outdo that other agency which FEMA arrived in NYC on September 10 for a drill of a mass casulity drill in NYC scheduled for September 12.  So when 911 happened, hundreds of FEMA agents converged on the WTC site and took it over, preventing the NYC fire department from testing for explosives as they are required to do when any building collapses.   And many buildings collapsed that day, but none were allowed to be tested for accelerants or explosives

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:10 | 6417220 MontgomeryScott
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I never pictured you as a suckass of the Oligarchy, NMEWN.

I suppose it was that 'NEW' theory called 'EXPANDING METAL' "Thermal Expansion" shit that finally won you over to the Dark Side.

 

Tell the 'bois' how to blow air on the hot metal to make it HOTTER. I'm sure EVERYONE will be interested in your 'unique technique' (especially regarding uncontrolled 'open air' fires that were ignited by 'office furnishings' that brought down a 47-storey office building in a neat and small footprint that seems to have left all the other buildings next to it including the USPS building across the street COMPLETELY UNDAMAGED). If it werked on WTC7, it SURELY werks EVERYWHERE!

FUCK the LAWS OF PHYSICS: FULL SPEED AHEAD, you fucking SCHILL!

It was the 'ERTHQUAKES' what dun it!

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 17:31 | 6420045 trulz4lulz
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I have 10,000 units of energy in my flying machine. I use 500 units of energy in a roundtrip flight. At my destination I have 9,500 units of energy before i collide with 10,000,000,000 units of mass. I lose 9,000 units of energy upon collision. I have 500 units of energy that I can burn as fuel  (80% of which is lost due to the rise of heat from my energy). There is now 9,999,991,000 units of mass. I have 100 units of fuel from my flying machine and 1000 units of rubbish I can burn as fuels as well. How does 1100 units of energy perfectly heat and disintigrate 9,999,991,000 units of mass in order for it to conformm exactly with gravitational pull? It dosent.

This explaination is very basic. Yet simple.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:53 | 6416430 petroglyph
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L-man, wasn't 5 or 6 bldg's that came down? I can't watch another hundred hours of destruction and I won't believe 7 came down from fire. What brought down tower #6?

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:07 | 6416486 Mr Pink
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Buildings 5 and 6 were still standing, Completely stripped down to the steel structure but still standing. They were closer to the toweres than 7

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:07 | 6416736 A Nanny Moose
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Bosnian Parliament. Bombarded with rockets, and artillery fire during the UN incursion/genocide.

Still standing.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:38 | 6416604 SixIsNinE
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yes, and often forgotten is that though the North Tower was struck first, the South Tower exploded and vaporized/dustified first, after just 50 MINUTES.   50 MINUTES.  Boy that kerosene sure does burn hot!

Explain that douch=tards! 

Also it's good to keep in mind the architects of the Twin Towers interviews prior to 9/11 about how they were designed specifically to withstand plane impacts, the biggest jumbo jets - the impact wouldn't go beyond a few floors damage.

Remember too how the 9/11 omissions report falsified the structure of the buildings ....  the 47 biggest steel girders known to man supporting these massive towers....

as a side note, our local paper noted a few weeks ago about the date that a US military bomber happened to fly into the Empire State Building - and guess what also happened that day?  The UN Charter was signed.   things that make you go hmmmmmmmm.....

 

 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:45 | 6416677 Freddie
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Did the Solictor General Ted Olson remarry his wife who died in 9/11 a few years after 9/11?   He marries another lawyer with no history who looks like a younger and altered version of his wife.  An American woman named "Lady" Booth?  WTF?  I mean if you come back from the dead you might as well have a royal title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YarIJ_xfkts

Funny how he later became liberal and led the charge for gay marriage at the Supreme Court.

Also kudos to former flight attendent Rebecca Roth who wrote a book later with her analysis that the phone calls and actions of the cabin crew and pilots was totally at odds with what they are endlessly trained on. 

Oh and if you look at the second plane, it is dark gray as the witness on the ground said.  Many were interviewed.  It was a drone 767 tanker aka KC-767.   At the last second it flips up to try to hide there is no airline markings on it.  

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 08:48 | 6417798 snodgrass
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I had a kerosene heater for my home. Never once did it burst into flames and melt down. Imagine that.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:23 | 6416539 jerry_theking_lawler
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Yes. You didn't see the dumptruck loads of paper IOUs that were burnt and tattered...that is the 'gold' he was speaking about.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 00:14 | 6417121 Save_America1st
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It's long gone...melted down in Switzerland into Chinese 9999 Kilo bars never to be seen again.  Loooooooooooooooooooong gone.

So better stack what you can now, folks.  Same with the phyzz silver. 

China now devaluing like crazy and that will mean major revaluation upwards in the fiat dollar prices of the phyzz. 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:08 | 6416270 Mr Pink
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Someone's got a date with a nail gun

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 02:36 | 6417319 Perimetr
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The Saudis drop the petro-dollar and get the BLAME

 

Controlled demolition did the job

 

Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth provide the best explanations

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R1cwYqwFgo

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:50 | 6416197 Eireann go Brach
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US Govt cover up, stock market crash, Obamacare destroying employment. It is only fair that King Obama's presidency goes up in flames before he leaves office! 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:58 | 6416227 drendebe10
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Fingers crossed..... but fat fukn chance...

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:59 | 6416206 Manthong
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If you think that a towelhead who could not land a Cessna 150 could execute a precision 270 degree turn in a heavy  airliner, go low and crash into a Pentagon budget office where they were researching Rumsfeld’s missing $3 Trillion, then I have real deal on asbestos skyscrapers in NYC for you.

Drone tech, anyone?

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:06 | 6416263 EINSILVERGUY
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Likely no. Possible yes. 911 people are as badt as the people who dont believe that a communist sympathizing nut could shoot a president. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And for the record i think the odds favor the saudis and their extreme wahabiast sect being responsible

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:15 | 6416296 Terminus C
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Shut up troll.

The Saudis don't control NORAD, can't place demolition charges in WTC 1,2 and 7 and could not plant a bomb in the Pentagon.

Fuck off with your bullshit.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:19 | 6416318 logicalman
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Interesting who was responsible for security at all the airports involved and for the buildings.

 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:24 | 6416334 greenskeeper carl
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a bush relative if Im not mistaken. I don't know what happened on 911, probably never will. I just know that, after seeing what the airplane that supposedly crashed into the pentagon superimposed over the hole in the building, there is no possible way thats what happened. That, and the lack of video coverage of that entire part of the building, since it all just disappeared. Also, to my knowledge, its not possible for jet fuel and office furniture to burn hot enough to melt structural steel.

 

And as far as kennedy goes, he had an exit wound in the direction oswald was supposedly firing from, which is also impossible

 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:40 | 6416388 socalbeach
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Larry Silverstein owned the WTC complex, and it's well-known that he's a Saudi Arabian.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:59 | 6416457 Troy Ounce
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I always thought Larry Silverstein was Irish?

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:30 | 6416551 Sir Edge
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Eye Laddie... and We'd Hav a few Pints Width Larry In Dublin... and he'd always Sing...

The Pull It Song... 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:44 | 6416737 Freddie
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Larry Silverstein had a partner who died a few years ago named Louis Bianculli.  He died about 5 years ago and his son was recently arrested for sexually assaulting and torturing a young girl.  Yeah these people will do anything for money.

Louie Jr.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3172355/Man-68-sexually-assaulte...

The company was Shopco-Silverstein.  Silverstein was President and Director.  Was Bianculli mob muscle? The son sure looks like it. 

http://www.corporationwiki.com/New-York/New-York/shopco-silverstein-corp...

 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:47 | 6416866 Deathrips
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HASBARA FUCKIN TROLLS EVERYWHERE!

RIPS

Edit Caps lock on ....i like it better in caps fuck it all

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:00 | 6416459 Chupacabra-322
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@ green keeper,

The other Criminal Psychopath Bush Crime family member involved for security was Marvin Bush.

" Also, to my knowledge, its not possible for jet fuel and office furniture to burn hot enough to melt structural steel."

Yep. If that's the case every Barbecue'n Lovin American should return their Barbeque's & demand a refund.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 00:11 | 6417096 Manthong
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You could pour 80,000 lbs of JP-5 down the ventilation shaft of a steel skyscraper and light it off.. it might get gutted, but there is no way it would collapse into into its own footprint in a gravity fall.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:49 | 6416666 SixIsNinE
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that video starts in an interesting way, but by the end when you realize the entire thing left out the Bankster hand, it looks like just another hasbara trick hoax

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:45 | 6416646 FIAT CON
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In one vid I watched it stated Jeb bush owned the security company of WTC 1&2

Also in the vid the bomb sniffin gdogs were removed on the day of and or few days before the Fall of the towers.

Silverstein bought the worthless buildings 6 or 8 weeks before the fall.

 Worthless buildings because they were full of abestos and to remove it was more $$ than the buildings were worth.

 Question for everyone?

 How do you remove two huge skyscrapers full of asbestos in downtown newyork cost affectively?

What if they are full of money, Gold and bonds in the basement?

What did Larry Silverstein and his accomplisses have to gain?

Who was in on this robbery?

A robbery on many levels;

The Gold 

The Bonds

The money

The insurance fraud

The cover up of 3 trillion $$$ from the papers in the pentagon

Shorting the stock market

The theft of the rights and freedoms of the american people and every citizen around the world from this.

If you think the US.gov would never do this to their citizens your wrong.

 All of the US soldiers are just collateral damage and so are the millions of innocent people that get killed in every country that they invade.

 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:05 | 6416724 SixIsNinE
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from "-Pulverized to Near Power: The Story of Recovering the Hard Drive Data 9/11 Linking Huge $$$$ Transfers Amid the Chaos"

....The clarification of the various US Government activities required, in order for the fraud to have been conducted, was presented in the book by Dr. Andreas von Buelow, former German minister of science and technology. His book is titled, “Die CIA und der 11. September: Internationaler Terror und die Rolle der Geheimdienste,” (The CIA and 11th September: International Terror and the role of Secret Services)
All recovered, usable data from hard drives, that was delivered to agents of the US Government, has been secreted from public view and will never be released. The criminals involved in the 9-11 fraud will certainly not allow the publication of data that would convict them in a court of law.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cfjYUHF8UE    HYPOTHESIS  - Full Movie
  • http://www.darpa.mil/Our_Work/DSO/Programs/Reactive_Material_Structures_(RMS).aspx

    http://rethink911.org/

  • Many are aware of the surge in put options purchased on American and United Airlines as well as several major tenants of the WTC in the days preceding 9/11, purchases the 9/11 Commission Report waves away in a footnote on pg. 499 as having no connection with the events of 9/11 because the unnamed “institutional investors” responsible had “no conceivable ties to al Qaeda”. More obscure, and nowhere mentioned in the Commission Report, are the facts of the WTC computer data recovery operation undertaken in late 2001 by Convar GmbH, a German firm. Under conditions of hermetic secrecy, Convar used its proprietary technology to salvage data from the damaged hard drives of WTC tenants, as reported in December 2001 by Reuters and CNN.

    http://www.rediff.com/money/2001/dec/17wtc.htm

    http://archives.cnn.com/2001/TECH/industry/12/20/wtc.harddrives.idg/

    From the Reuters article:

    “The suspicion is that inside information about the attack was used to send financial transaction commands and authorisations in the belief that amid all the chaos the criminals would have, at the very least, a good head start,” said Convar director Peter Henschel.”

    “Richard Wagner, a data retrieval expert at the company, said illegal transfers of more than $100 million might have been made immediately before and during the disaster.”

    “There is a suspicion that some people had advance knowledge of the approximate time of the plane crashes in order to move out amounts exceeding $100 million,” Wagner said. “They thought that the records of their transactions could not be traced after the main frames were destroyed.”

    “Henschel said the companies in the United States were working together with the FBI to piece together what happened on September 11 and that he was confident the destination of the dubious transactions would one day be tracked down.”

    Convar’s website features two videos confirming that Convar GmbH did in fact process the WTC hard drives. http://www.datarecovery-europe.com/ The second examines the disk recovery process in detail, and explicitly acknowleges the transactions in question as “secret, controversial data”.

    http://www.datenretter.de/videos.htm?po=0&language=1#WTC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uGMmo1Fm3o    - CONVAR WTC Hard Disks

  • The widely disseminated claim that Kroll Associates–the powerful private-intelligence firm responsible for some elements of WTC security on 9/11–acquired Convar in June 2002 remains unsubstantiated. What can be verified is that Kroll purchased Ontrack Data Recovery, a US-based rival of Convar with offices in Germany.

    After the CNN article of December 20, the US media were stricken mute on the Convar investigation. Of the media blackouts shrouding 9/11, none has been more absolute.

    Notice that Convar, its unnamed WTC clients and the FBI possessed these data, and that the FBI would have no reason to withhold the results of its investigation had they proven benign or consistent with the Commission’s account of the attacks.

    It is worth remembering what Sibel Edmonds told Jim Hogue: “I can tell you that the issue, on one side, boils down to money–a lot of money. and it boils down to people and their connections with this money…” http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml

    Consider again Wagner’s inference: “They thought that the records of their transactions could not be traced after the main frames were destroyed.” The locations of the computers in question within the towers is unknown, but if Wagner is correct, two possibilities emerge: (1) either the “insiders” had foreknowledge of the precise impact points of the aircraft (otherwise why assume that the main frames would be destroyed?) or (2) they had foreknowledge of the total destruction of the towers. Upon reflection, for numerous reasons the first possibility recedes into remote improbability. But why would “insiders” assume the total collapse of the towers when there was no historical precedent for such an event and the towers had been designed to survive the impact of fuel-laden 707s at 600mph? http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/design.html

    If in fact the WTC towers were demolished by explosives, incendiaries or other means, whoever initiated these transactions should be considered suspect for complicity in those acts.

    No legitimate reason–in fact no reason whatsoever–for withholding the Convar data has to date been offered.

    ————————————–

    The sum total of official US Government comment about this matter is confined to the following recklessly written 9/11 Commission memo:

    http://media.nara.gov/9-11/MFR/t-0148-911MFR-00269.pdf

    “We asked about persistent press reports that a certain damaged hard-drives had been recovered from the WTC site and sent to Germany, where a company was working to restore them. These press reports contend that large volumes of suspicious transactions flowed through computers housed in the WTC on the morning of 9/11 as part of some illicit but ill-defined effort to profit from the attacks. The assembled agents expressed no knowledge of the reported hard-drive recovery effort or the alleged scheme. Moreover, one of the New York agents pointed out, from personal experience, that everything at the WTC was pulverized to near power, making it extremely unlikely that any hard-drives survived to the extent they data be recovered.”

    Notice the memo is dated August 18, 2003. Video reports featured on the main page of Convar’s website–showing the recovery process of the actual hard drives in question–had been available to anyone with an internet connection since January 2002.

    It’s that simple. The only official accounting of the 9/11 terror attacks–an event that triggered premeditated invasions and years of bloody occupation, normalized torture, surveillance and assassination, emptied public treasuries for “defense” and “security” and altered global history–is a fraud. A lie, and a bad one.

    Humanity deserves better.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 23:22 | 6416970 Deathrips
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A game of division, the prize is the aquisition of life. LIFE STEALERS.

Paper buys it and they make it out of nothing.

There are many ways to deal with vampires. First test is expose them to the light. THey flame up and scream.....well..then you look deeper. They are working for the press (printing one), babylon system is the vampire.

 

RIPS

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNZcf8WtBiY

 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:44 | 6416860 Cadavre
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Not Jeb Bush, iw Marvin Bush. And the security compay he suited at also secure the nin slash `leven air ports.

Marvin was alse the guy who honchoed the Colorado Silverado Savings and Loan whenit failed when the Reag teleprompted and pa pa was VP, causing a big dump in the indexes and may have been the first instance of the commons bailing out bond holders.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 08:54 | 6417824 snodgrass
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While Marvin Bush handled security, Jeb Bush was using a C-130 cargo plane to pick up records from the company that purportedly trained some of the 911 hijackers. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0212/S00058.htm

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:51 | 6416421 robobbob
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and sometimes an american president telling the american people it was a torpedo firing patrol boat turns out to have been nothing but surging waves.....and he knew it all along

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_8O0NFEuEg

and sometimes prime ministers and a presidents saying something was a civilian transport of no military value turns out to be not true

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1098904/Secret-Lusitania-Arms-ch...

 

sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

and sometimes its an adult playtoy

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:35 | 6416599 armageddon addahere
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Official Dallas police reports indicate Oswald was not on the sixth floor (he was seen on the second floor by Officer Marrion Baker). His fingerprints were not found on the murder weapon, although others were. And paraffin tests revealed he did not shoot a rifle that day.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:37 | 6416612 armageddon addahere
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"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

That's what Bill Clinton said.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:07 | 6416266 Crash Overide
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House of Saud and House of Bush got their dirty fingerprints all over this one...

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:48 | 6417273 Alvin Fernald
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They do. And so does those who shall not be named.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:01 | 6416461 TheEndIsNear
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Not to mention the fact that the aerodynamic principle of "ground effect" makes it impossible for a large airliner with a long wingspan to fly close to the ground at high speed.

Yet the one and only very short video released by the Pentagon shows a blur quickly moving accross the lawn so close to the ground it could have been a fast moving bus or automobile; ergo, it was almost certainly a missle that hit the Pentagon rather than an aircraft. The aircraft that a few people reported seeing was probably the aircraft that dropped the cruise missle. According to Pentagon employees, there was a small explosion at the spot where the missle subsequently hit the Pentagon..;.presumably to give the IR heat seeking missle a good solid heat emitting target.

I could go on and on...

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:51 | 6416876 Deathrips
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and on ....and on....and on.

 

All you stupid fools who believe jet fuel doesnt melt steel best look here.

 

http://911smokinggun.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post.html

NYPD too...

 

RIPS

 

 

nuke

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:59 | 6417269 Manthong
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Not so foolish..

I looked at that site.. looks like a crunched building and a fire to me..

but not a gravity fall.

Everything else I have read about the subject says you do not melt structural steel with a hydrocarbon fire. 

Likely, the molten steel came from the extreme pressure and blast furnace-like conditions at the bottom collapsed, but still burning building

“Construction steel has an extremely high melting point of about 2,800° Fahrenheit (1535° Celsius)."

“Kerosene-based jet fuel, paper, or the other combustibles normally found in the towers, however, cannot generate the heat required to melt steel,”

“Experts disagree that jet-fuel or paper could generate such heat. This is impossible, they say, because the maximum temperature that can be reached by hydrocarbons like jet-fuel, burning in air is 1520° F (825° C). Because the WTC fires were fuel rich (as evidenced by the thick black smoke) it is argued that they did not reach this upper limit of 825° C.”

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/bollyn2.htm

 

btw.. demolition thermite can melt structural steel

http://physics911.net/thermite/

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:09 | 6416466 Cadavre
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@Manthong ...  

Jesus Titty Fucking Christ right!

An Iranian once shared that Saudi Arabia is anther one of the proud and many subscribers to a dominion heresy we all call Zionism.

State's don't pull something like 911 off. Sure, a few conspiracy insiders may work for a state, or an agency of a state, but all in all, states, all by there lonesomes, are too small.

If we look at US, Israel, UK and EUR members, as well as the Sauds from a marketing perspective, at least from 1913 forward, what we see is a classic text book example of a "loss leader", when defined as:

A business strategy in which a business offers a product or service at a price that is not profitable for the sake of offering another product/service at a greater profit or to attract new customers. This is a common practice when a business first enters a market; a loss leader introduces new customers to a service or product in the hope of building a customer base and securing future recurring revenue.

The the primary reason for the establishment of our very famous Federal Reserve, was to serve as the Forever Wars Exchange, and finance the Forever Wars. The FED, IRS and Income Tax and the direct election of senators, were birthed, all of `em, at very same moment, and in the nick of time to get the US into WWI, the inauguration of the Forever Wars Era, that we we are still under to this day..

The extensions of the FED, in collusion with the genocide industries, made nine slash `leven happen. Not some puny one pony wanna be like the US government, the Sauds or Israel..

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:22 | 6416528 Seek_Truth
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I am going on record here.

Iran will win WW3.

As prophesied.

Accept Jesus' ransom sacrifice now,

or perish.

Shortly after Iran wins,

Jesus will  return.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:20 | 6416775 Cadavre
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Looks pretty much like the negligible, or narrow, world view new grunt enlistees of the Junior Cyber Army brigade are here to to sharpen their wit-stchicks in defense of the acceptable conspiracy theories allowed and encouraged by the gencocide factories are out in full force on this `un. 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:28 | 6416800 Freddie
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I wonder if Jesus will take into account that members of Hezbollah and Iran have been fighting and helping to protect all Syrians including Syrian Christians in Syria. 

These innocent Syrians have been attacked and murdered by non-Christians in the West,Gulf States, USA/UK,  and a place where Jesus smashed up a temple of money changers.  The same place and people who sold Jesus out to the Romans.   

Syria is one of the earliest places of Christianity and about 18% of Syrians are Christians.  The USA's neocon, PNAC and AIPAC actions have caused the murder of hundreds of thousands of Christians in Syria, Iraq and Egypt plus more innocent people in Libya. 

Does Jesus know this?

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 23:18 | 6416972 IndyPat
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Pretty sure He's taking score on every inch of that.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 00:33 | 6417155 Manthong
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What we are doing to a formerly beautiful, muti-ethnic/religious secularly managed country (again) is a war crime.

OK, so Bashir is not the ideal leader, but that is no reason to illegally displace him and turn that country into a killing field and hell hole.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:52 | 6417277 Alvin Fernald
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Not 'we'. I have not killed another human being.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 02:45 | 6417321 Manthong
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yeah ok but.. your taxes are paying for it. 

 

and JHFC.. some troll out there is pro-killing fields and hell holes.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 01:26 | 6417247 trader1
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But the Ayatollah wears a black turban....not blue.

 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:55 | 6416687 Freddie
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John Lear, who's dad started Lear Jet, was an ailine pilot and also flew for the See Eye Aye said it was technically impossible to fly those planes at that speed at a low altitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQBlv7sZGVE

This retired pilot flew the plane that supposedly crashed at Shanksville said it is all BS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXA-enq65ng

 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:53 | 6416212 drendebe10
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Whaaaaaaaaaatttttt???  The gubmint not telling the people the whole troof and nothing but the troof????  Whaaaaaaaaaat????? Unbelievable..... no way...

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 10:38 | 6417044 snodgrass
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Israhell was not alone. The bush administration helped, including members of the military. The Saudis helped but will take the fall. The Zionazis wants a part of Saudi Arabia for greater Israhell. The British were there too. I wouldn't be surprised if a cross section of bankers in different countries were involved. The common theme being Jews and bringing about the New World Order. Rule by the money changers.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 08:35 | 6417746 Tarshatha
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The Saudis are just one of the outer layers of the onion.

At the core of the onion you'll find the mossad, CIA, small pockets of every branch of the US Military, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush, etc.

Hang them all!

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:37 | 6416145 Seasmoke
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This would be the biggest Black Swan of all time. One can only hope that sky is getting darker as we speak.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:26 | 6416350 negative rates
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Yet there is a light at the end of the tunnel for, SOME people.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:37 | 6416148 koncaswatch
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An attorney by the name of Goldman trying to prove "the Saudis did it". That sounds about right.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:02 | 6416231 SHEEPFUKKER
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A man named gold always telling us about pet rocks and barberous relics. 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:38 | 6416151 Cacete de Ouro
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Mossad

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 21:25 | 6416552 Rusty Shorts
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The Medusa Touch

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 22:29 | 6416804 Freddie
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And when will the AMERICAN sailors of the USS Liberty get justice?

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 07:18 | 6417546 redd_green
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Unfortunately: never.  Look at who runs the US government.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:38 | 6416152 Peter Pan
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Well there you have it. The cover up has been proven everywhere except a court of law.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:43 | 6416166 Winston Churchill
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Which cover up?

You can be sure the planners of 9/11 left many false scents for the dogs to follow.SoP.

Follow the money.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:47 | 6416185 knukles
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Like the missing gold.
Anybody else but me ever notice that every time something "big" happens, gold goes missing?
Ukraine, Mali, Libya, 9/11
Ever so convenient.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:51 | 6416200 Winston Churchill
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Barbarous.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:58 | 6416224 knukles
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I love Big Brother

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:01 | 6416232 Winston Churchill
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Rm 101 awaits.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:06 | 6416262 knukles
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But I came here for an argument!

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:17 | 6416308 Terminus C
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No you didn't.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:17 | 6416310 Winston Churchill
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So did the entire hasbara by the downvotes.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 08:40 | 6417761 Tarshatha
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"So did the entire hasbara by the downvotes."

 

Fuck, ain't that the truth!

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:01 | 6416237 Peter Pan
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Only Saddam was stupid enough to be hiding in a hole in the ground with a stash of US dollars.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:19 | 6416319 r3ct1f13r
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jim willie?

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 08:46 | 6417789 Tarshatha
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"Like the missing gold.
Anybody else but me ever notice that every time something "big" happens, gold goes missing?
Ukraine, Mali, Libya, 9/11
Ever so convenient."

 

Don't forget Iraq.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/iraqigold/

But most of them were... "According to a Reuter’s report from August 1, 2003, however, later testing of the more than 1,000 bars that were found revealed they were not gold but mostly copper and zinc."

And somewhere there is a bunch of idiots that believed Reuter's.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:38 | 6416384 booboo
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Yea, like those guys that are sat in prison for years until they were exonerated by DNA evidence

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:41 | 6416159 rubiconsolutions
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I presume then that the US government will assemble a "coalition of the willing" and bomb the shit out of Saudi Arabia, kill a half million children with sanctions and boycott their oil and convince Europe to do the same.

 

yeah.....</sarc>

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:41 | 6416160 pndr4495
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Why? Money - asked and answered. 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:42 | 6416165 kchrisc
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There were no "Dancing Saudis," only "Dancing Mossads" celebrating across the river that day.

Don't look at the Muslim birdie, look at the Zionist birdie.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:48 | 6416187 blindman
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see i ay, the banksters demanded all of it
and continue to this day. money monopoly is no
joke in the domain of global ambition, like
dirt to agriculture

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:52 | 6416202 blindman
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Levon Helm "Poor Old Dirt Farmer" Official Music Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBuJB218UvU

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:52 | 6416207 TradingTroll
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Saudis are semitic too. All Zionists to me.

 

 

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 19:58 | 6416226 Sturm und Drang
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Except, most zionists aren't. Semitic that is.

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:18 | 6416313 Terminus C
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That there is anti-semitism!

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 20:04 | 6416250 blindman
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The Levon Helm Band - Full Concert - 08/03/08 - Newport Folk Festival (OFFICIAL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSbg_EhSKXY

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