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Why More Conflict Is Inevitable In The Middle East
Submitted by Erico Matias Tavares via Sinclar & Co.,
We all know how sectarian, religious and political differences have thrown many Middle Eastern countries into chaos and armed conflict. But there is a deeper factor at play which deserves greater recognition: severe water scarcity.
This scarcity will not be addressed overnight, no matter who ends up prevailing in those conflicts. As such, the region will very likely continue to suffer from significant turmoil for many years to come.
Using satellite data, scientists from the University of California (Irvine), NASA and the National Center for Atmospheric Research found that large parts of the arid Middle East region saw a dramatic loss of freshwater reserves over a seven-year period starting in 2003. This is shown in the following map:
Parts of Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran along the Tigris and Euphrates river basins lost some 144 cubic kilometers of total stored freshwater – almost the total amount of water in the Dead Sea. The scientists attributed the majority of this loss to pumping from underground reservoirs.
Indeed, Syria and Iraq are facing severe water availability issues, compounded by the fact that the majority of their renewable water resources comes from other countries. As such, the Euphrates River – which has sustained Mesopotamian civilization from its very start – is critically important for them.
However, rampant demand, wasteful government policies, intensive agriculture, pesticides and industrial use have all substantially reduced both the quality and the quantity of water available. According to a Chatham House study, this overexploitation has curtailed the flow of the Euphrates from Turkey to downstream countries by at least 40% since 1972.
This is a major concern for the 27 million people across these three countries who depend on these water supplies directly, and many millions more reliant on the food and energy coming out of that region. All the wars since 2003 have only made matters worse.
It is not surprising then that the Islamic State is securing strongholds along the river and using them to exert pressure on their enemies. But there is one thing that the opposing factions in the brutal war raging across Syria and Iraq agree on, and that is accusing Turkey of further reducing their fair share of water supplies from the Euphrates. The latter will soon complete an ambitious US$35 billion dam and irrigation works program, which will put further pressure downstream.
Other countries in the region are facing even more severe water problems. Take Yemen for instance, a country with 24 million people and one of the lowest per capita water availability levels in the world. Critical water supply sources are being depleted so rapidly that they will become exhausted before the end of the decade. Dwindling oil production has hit the economy hard, at a time when big investments in infrastructure are needed to tackle the issue. And now there’s a conflict raging between Yemeni factions, internally and against Saudi Arabia.
So we can see another pattern emerging beyond the sectarian power play across the region... and arguably even more significant: where water supplies become acutely scarce, armed conflict rapidly follows.
An Explosive Mix
The population growth rate in the Middle East is one of the highest in the world. From 1990 to 2010, population in that region as a whole increased by 50% - 124 million people in absolute terms, more than four times the increase in the European Union over the same period. In some of the most parched countries that increase has been absolutely staggering, as shown in the following table:
Population (MM) and Military Expenditures (constant 2011 US$) in Selected Middle East Countries: 1990 – 2010
Source: World Bank, OECD, SIPRI.
(a) Yemen is from 1990 to 2008 and UAE from 1997 to 2010.
These are quite young populations as most of the growth has been organic. And it’s always the young who tend to get really agitated when a problem emerges. Military expenditures in most of these countries have increased at rates even higher than population. So not only there is a rapidly expanding number of people facing a dire water situation; they also have more weapons at their disposal.
Accordingly, the world and its superpowers should not be surprised by the expansion of armed conflict across the Middle East we have witnessed in recent years. And unfortunately things might get even worse from here.
Policy Implications
There is no civilization without water. If current water trends persist, pardon the hyperbole but large parts of the Middle East may turn into one of the worst humanitarian disasters the world has ever seen, particularly given the large size of those populations.
The immediate consequence is of course a continuation if not expansion of armed conflicts across the region, as people fight over the remaining drops of water.
Desperate civilians will try to get out any way they can. Italy and especially Greece are already overwhelmed by the flood of migrants crossing the Mediterranean. Just imagine those flows increasing by many multiples over the coming years.
And it’s not only civilians who are looking to come across. The map above shows the ultimate territorial ambitions of the Islamic Caliphate. Seems farfetched particularly as many of those countries are NATO members or part of China, but this will not dissuade them from trying by any means. Time and demographics are on their side, with large pools of disillusioned young people at their disposal (with relatives and sympathizers already in Europe), as well as potential access to advanced weaponry manufactured in the West, Russia and China.
In light of all of this, the lack of a concrete strategy and response thus far by European Union leaders is truly baffling. It is becoming increasingly obvious that they will not be able to solve this problem just by throwing some money at it and moving a few refugees around; not when its scale can dramatically increase in magnitude.
What will this do to the Middle East’s main export, crude oil? Our guess is that producing countries will continue to expand production, even if prices in the world markets correct further. After all they have big bills to pay: fighting insurgents, ramping up their defenses, investing in infrastructure, importing food (to mitigate domestic production declines)... But if any slack in capacity is exhausted, or worse, conflict expands to the point where their upstream or logistical infrastructure is impaired, then supply could quickly go the other way.
While conventional, tar sands and tight oil producers in North America may get the last laugh, it is clear that the world economy needs the abundant reserves of the Middle East.
It is also curious to note how ill equipped Western central banks would be to deal with the inflationary consequences of an oil supply shock. Why? Because any material increase in interest rates would blow up government budgets in many developed countries, given the high debt loads that they have taken on since the 2008 financial crisis.
Rather than adding more fuel to the Middle Eastern fire, it seems that the world’s superpowers have a vested interest to negotiate and implement credible solutions to the unfolding catastrophe in the region.
Unfortunately, such vision and leadership seem to be in even shorter supply than water in the Middle East.
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The first angel blew his trumpet, and hail and fire mixed with blood were thrown down on the earth. One-third of the earth was set on fire, one-third of the trees were burned, and all the green grass was burned.
Then the second angel blew his trumpet, and a great mountain of fire was thrown into the sea. One-third of the water in the sea became blood, one-third of all things living in the sea died, and one-third of all the ships on the sea were destroyed.
Then the third angel blew his trumpet, and a great star fell from the sky, burning like a torch. It fell on one-third of the rivers and on the springs of water. The name of the star was Bitterness. It made one-third of the water bitter, and many people died from drinking the bitter water.
Revelation 8:7-11
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-17775211
"..."Where there's greatest ground water storage is in northern Africa, in the large sedimentary basins, in Libya, Algeria and Chad," she said.
"The amount of storage in those basins is equivalent to 75m thickness of water across that area - it's a huge amount." ..."
Gadaffi was growing wheat on Libyan farms in the desert.
-ALSO-
PRIMARY WATER: Said to be 5x the volume of the world's oceans. Ancient Persians apparently knew of this and were skilled at finding these springs.
http://www.primarywaterinstitute.org/evidence.html
the lack of shipping the "refugee" hords back is baffling.
There has been conflict in the Middle East ever since the time 1400 years ago when Mohammed was banging 7 year old girls.
And the author predicts MORE CONFLICT! What a bold prediction!
And why isn't Sicily black on that map? It was part of Islam cenuries ago. Doesn't ISIS have any knowledge of history.
Scene from the movie True Romance is very instuctive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3yon2GyoiM
YOU LIVE IN A FUCKING DESERT!!!!!!!!!!
SEE THIS? THIS IS SAND! you know what it'll be in 100 years? IT'LL BE FUCKING SAND!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because Obama.
+100 for Sam
My farther came home from WW2 and claimed there will never be peace in the middle east, How prophetic!
Northern Africa oscillates between desert and lush tropical forest due to the Milankovitch cycle of the earth's axis and orbit. The last time it cycled from wet to dry it caused a mass migration of people into Egypt, leading to the construction of the Great Pyramids.
Bingo!This cycle also drove man out of Africa into today's Middle East, and later on up into Europe and West Asia.
"Primordial Earth was an incandescent globe made from magma, but all magmas contain water."
I'm going to start smashing my face into my keyboard now.
Stop me when I look like Headbanger.
That is a big aquifier, but it is depleted much faster than it refills. The Saudis were also growing wheat in the desert. For a few years.
"in Libya, Algeria and Chad"
Take a look at a world map and see that the Middle East is far away from those African countries.
Just like there's water east of the Rockies and north of Oregon, but that doesn't help the southwest one bit.
Confirms my time there - It blows
That's why IsraHell is preparing for the next war>>
https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/08/29/israel-prepares-for-...
Thank you NSA for your wonderful propaganda
We do not fall for it we are not retards
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4
Great. Another religious retard. Not to mention your "revelation" talk about cosmic event not internal one - fool.
Jumbotron still believes in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy, too. We don't want to disabuse him of these notions, as it may be harmful to his self-esteem, so let's keep it hushed.
LOL ! Cute.....but wrong.
And you're still trying to scientifically DISPROVE the existance of God. And are continuing to fail as much as any believer such as myself can scientifically prove that He DOES exist.
Face it.....you're a person of FAITH just as I am. Because as the Bible says.... " Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1
Your faith is in your belief that there is no God because you can't see Him. Ok, good on ya. But it IS faith, since you have no proof. Ergo, you are really no different from me. Just on the opposite side of the faith argument.
But back to my original post. I used Scripture in this case as a point of irony. I do not believe the propehcy in this case refers to a potential water crisis in the Middle East. But you decided to be an asshole none the less.
Nobody needs to have faith to see that fact.
The best part is when they try to actually prove the Big Bang Theory...lol.
It's like, there was nothingness, the nothingness being somethingness of course, all compressed by somthingness into a infinitesimal little spot no larger than an atom, contained within somethingness naturally, which also was contained by somethingness...and then BANG!
It's an intriguing hypothesis of nothingness-somethingness, just have faith in it ;-)
<chuckle> well.....I used to be of that camp and that argument has a more than a grain of rough logic to it.
But the more one studies Quantum Physics and the emerging science of reality, the Big Bang actually makes a lot of sense. There is actually a line of thought that the Universe and its "reality" is nothing more than a 2 dimensional projection from a worm hole from another reality into this plane of existance and we as humans then form a 3D mental image of reality in our minds to comprehend it.
Think of it this way. If you were led into a completely dark room....perfectly dark....and then led to a seat only to be dazzled a moment later when you sat down by a sudden beam of light from a projector projecting a 2D movie onto a screen that you could not see a moment ago. Big.....Bang. Now.....think about this further. What if you were actually one of those CHARACTERS on the screen? And had conscienceness of your own existance but not true REVELATION of the state of your existance on a 2D screen?
Think of it as an observer of the movie. In 2D, you are still moved by the story, you feel for the characters and feel their emotions. You are sucked into their reality. In a 3D movie, with the help of glasses or other techniques, you feel even MORE involved with the reality on the screen even though it is still only a 2D projection. Now imagine again the characters on the screen. If we can be fooled into thinking we are actually inside a movie through 3D manipulation on the outside.....what says 2D characters can't form 3D constructs of reality in their 2D existance? An existance, that began just as in a darkened theatre, by a BIG BANG, when the projector started to beam that 2D reality onto the screen.
Just food for thought. Finally, think about this. The Big Bang is actually pretty compatible with the Genesis story. One is described in the language of science. The other in the language of the mystical and the poetic.
I particularly find this passage intriguing in light of the Big Bang Theory. In the Big Bang Theory....for a LONG time after the Bang, the Universe while still expanding was still DARK. The energy levels of the atomic and subatomic particles was so high that no photons were either created and/or could escape the gravity of the other particles. And some believe that actually for a while the Universe was expanding faster than the speed of light.....therefore making it impossible to actually "SEE" photons. But as the Universe expanded further and then began to slow, these energy levels began to drop and photos either formed or were able to shed off from other particles colliding and escape.
Hence.....let there be light.
Here is how the Bible states it. God created the heavens and the earth. The Universe and the world were "formless" and "dark". Just like the Primordial, fast expanding Universe. The Bible speaks of the "the Spirit" hovering over the formless universe and world as if it were "waters". In my study of Meterology, we studied a lot of "Fluid Dynamics" even though we dealt mostly with gases. Why? Because gases flow in similar fashion to fluids. Gases in this case are like water. The early Universe was certainly "fluid" back then....and still is. Look at the whirlpool galaxies and tell me this is not so. Then God commanded light into existance. This is the time that photons began to escape. This is what we see as a hazy mass of light when we peer back in time with our space telescopes to just after the slowing down of the initial expansion of the Universe. This was also beautifully renderd in the movie "The Tree of Life" by VFX wizard Douglas Trumbull ( 2001 A Space Odessey)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EEIeH7ymwA
And then the rest of Genesis follows the rest of the Big Bang and evolution pretty closely. The Bible states that out of that "glow" came a seperation of dark and light (Dark matter and energy from radiant energy and matter), then the earth itself was formed and that land masses and lakes and seas formed, (Geology proves this) then beasts and birds and sea life were created, ( Evolution proves this ) and then man was formed later (Evolution proves this) and that man took dominion over the earth and the animals ( and Evolution and current observation proves this.)
So....the Big Bang and Genesis are not really far apart at all. Just described with different language.
Gee Wally, so you're saying that since there's a mathematical translation that can describe 3 dimensions encoded in two, that means we're all living in a yellow submarine? *facepalm*
Just because there's a mathematical description for it! *facepalm*
Parrot stuff without even thinking. Well, you do believe the bibel fairy tale after all...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW1GIhWm7c0
I was brought up in a Christian home and spend most Sundays and Wednesday evenings at church till I was in my late teens. But I've never been one that can just believe blindly in what the Bible states. To me it seems pretty obvious that it was written by men, men who were given divine visions that they didn't have the scientific knowledge to understand. That being said, the true nature of God has always been an issue for me. If you believe God is truly omnipresent and has existed forever, for me there is only one way to make sense of that without my brain exploding. God IS the universe. The only theory I can use to explain this is that God was originally matter and energy dispersed throughout what would eventually be the universe. Over time the energy/matter interacted and a basic intelligence began to form, much in the way the cells and connections in the human brain give us life. As the intelligence became more self-aware and aware of its nature, it began to draw together. The more compressed the field became, the more self-aware and intelligent it became. By the time the energy/matter field had compressed itself into a single point, the rules of our universe had been defined (rules which we still do not truly comprehend I assume). Then, Big Ass Bang, let there be light, God is complete and gives birth to the universe.
A heaven with mansions and streets of gold, where we all fall down on our face and worship a supreme being just seems like something someone who lives in the desert and has nothing would come up with. A lake of fire where you burn forever for relatively minor transgressions seems like a scare tactic to keep people in line. Don't even get me started on Adam and Eve. I try to live my life by the 10 commandments, do unto others as you would have them do unto you and judge not lest ye be judged. Whether you believe in the Biblical God or not, that seems like a fine way to conduct yourself to me.
I could be completely wrong, and I'm okay with that. The theory is a little lacking in scientific fact, and I'm okay with that. If God puts a boot my ass for thinking this way, so be it.
Why did I share this here? Not really sure, the mood just hit me.
"It's like, there was nothingness, the nothingness being somethingness of course, all compressed by somthingness into a infinitesimal little spot no larger than an atom, contained within somethingness naturally, which also was contained by somethingness...and then BANG!"
According to this, you deny the existence of nodes on a battery. But it doesnt seem to have been taken to its logical conclusion in the minds of those that dont fathom it.
"Face it.....you're a person of FAITH just as I am. Because as the Bible says.... " Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1"
Interesting, since the Hebrews were nearly wiped out in Europe during WW2. I though the Hebrews were God's chosen people? and God would protect them.
Religons are tools used on the masses by few people to get them to do things they would do by themselves. God exists as invention of man. Religons also chance. On a small group of people followed Judism and Christianity was a late arrival. Before that Paganism, Polyesium, etc were the leading religions. Hinduism is still a popular religion and and nothing to do with western religions.
The Jews are still here. And to many Anti-Semites on this site.....they rule the world.
So much for your theory.
Those who go by the name Jews, who currently occupy the Holy Land on a false pretext, are the biggest anti-Semites around. If you don't believe me just take a look at how they treat their Semitic neighbours living in Gaza.
http://www.etresoi.ch/Denis/semitic.html
I was dragged up a catholic and gave up practicing because I wasn't getting any better at it. one thing they did teach us was:
Got always was, is and always will be.
Substitute time space matter etc for god and you have the perfect definition for infitity in both directions
If there is no such thing as the supernatural then it's rather irrational of you to mock the supernatural, don't you think? If nature and natural causes are all that exist then the "blame" for what you call religious retards, paedophile priests and Muslim extremists who fly aeroplanes into tall buildings must be pinned on the natural, not the supernatural. But that's like pinning the "blame" for the way the knee, the ear, the lungs and the kidneys turned out on evolution. Seriously? You really are mocking nature for patterns of human behaviour that persist today because, well, nature must have had a reason for it?
I consider it highly irrational if not indeed literally insane when people who do not believe in God and the supernatural mock and scoff at God and the supernatural. Why? Well it's like this you see: if God and the supernatural really don't exist, what is to blame for their persistence throughout history? That's right: natural causes. The very thing you want everybody to believe in as the sole explanation for the whole of reality.
So now who's the retard?
"if God and the supernatural really don't exist, what is to blame for their persistence throughout history?" >> prosecution, murder, human stupidity.
"You really are mocking nature for..." >> again, human stupidity, I didnt said anything about nature.
The point is that we have an international problem to solve and here comes a guy, paste nonsense, non-related text from the book that is itself full of violence and murder.
And to those bellow who try to justify faith in god because of unexplained like big bang etc., in the past we believed earth is flat and center of universe and religion burned those proving otherwise alive. Just because we cant explain everything doesnt mean religion or god is an answer. You dont have a proof either, you just assume from theory written in your books. You claim to the truth like you know for sure but you never ever met any god. The fact that you can enjoy such a technologies like computer and internet today is because of science suppress of religion, if it was up to them you would be still living middle ages today!
1) Only someone who is either illiterate or a bigot would suggest we have computers and internet today because science suppressed religion. Have you heard the names Volta and Ampere? How about all these other Catholics who made scientific discoveries throughout history, without which you would not be able to make your scientific boast today?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_Catholic_cleric-scientists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_scientists
2) What makes you so sure the human mind is equipped to deal with God's existence? Can you put a beach ball under a microscope? Until you can step outside the human mind and look at it as an outsider you have no grounds for arguing the human mind will ever have the scope to answer the question whether or not reality includes God. Microscopes can not calibrate themselves; it takes a person to calibrate a microscope, to tell us what its scope is, what it can see and what it cannot see, and whether or not its lens is calibrated properly or blurred. So what grounds do you have for assuming the human mind has the scope to apprehend the existence of God, and what grounds do you have for assuming the human mind is calibrated properly?
None. That's what. Not until you can step outside the human mind and look at its scope and reliability as a dispassionate observer from some external vantage point can you assume it is equipperd to deal with the question of God's existence. Needless to say nobody now, or in the future, not even your precious Nobel-winning scientists, will ever be able to step outside the human mind in this way and make this judgement. You lose.
3) You say we have no proof of God's existence. How do you know God is a being who would submit to human enquiry even were he to exist? How do you know God would leave evidence of his existence in this corner of the universe, or anywhere for that matter, and how do you know we will ever have the scientific instruments and mental scope to discover that evidence even were it to exist? You're making a lot of assumptions about what God is like, aren't you, which is a little strange given you deny his existence. I have always considered it more than a little strange, if not indeed outright insane, to define a being you don't believe in, to say there is no proof of God's existence and by doing so imply that God is a being who would submit proof of his existence were he to exist. That is a definition of God whether you like it or not, and a definition of God is an assertion of his existence.
You lose. Again.
1, Yeah science and religion lol, tell it to the guys like Galileo, Copernicus etc how church support science, fool.
2, Dont put words to my mouth, I dont know if nor did I said humans can deal with everything. But, that does not again justifies your god. You dont have any proof except some book somebody else wrote long ago. Faith = bad evidence. If we worked that way in every other area of life, like medicine for example... well... "I believe if you have an AIDS then having sex with a virgin will cure it. Look it is written in this old book." - good luck.
"Not until you can step outside the human mind..." >> so you`re taking drugs. Yes you can literally see the god if under LSD, I can believe that.
3, "You say we have no proof of God's existence. How do you know God is a being who would submit to human enquiry even were he to exist?" >> How do you know there is any god? You dont, period. You assume on your own theories thats it. And thats not same as FACT.
" You're making a lot of assumptions about what God is like..." >> Are you stupid or what? I dont even believe in any god not to even think what he could be like lol ;). Ok so of there is a god BUT he never submitted any proof of his existence as you suggest, then obviously only way you can get around it is by assuming it is so and by faith without single proof. In another word, you just created your own assumption/idea that god exist but somehow he dont want us to know and dare to say I make assumption here while you claim that god exist as a fact. Talk about insanity...
"That is a definition of God whether you like it or not..." >> and so here you made an exact specific statement of what god really is like, despite 0 evidence. Still you somehow forgot to attach to the message which one is it you personally believe, because you know... there are plenty already on this single little planet alone...
I will step out of my mind for a moment assuming 3rd person view and show you how stupid you really are:
Do you believe in Zeus? What do you think about someone who would come to you and say: "I believe in Zeus as a creator of this earth and if you dont you are stupid and you lose because you cannot explain universe creation properly and you cannot step out of your mind to see...". >> Now, I dont know about you, but to me such person need immediate medical treatment. Do you really think you or your religion is any different/better? Dont fool yourself, this is how I see people like you - from the "outside view".
The trouble for you is that you can't be certain the human mind is what you think and hope it is - a trustworthy instrument through which we filter reality - if it is the product of blind, natural causes. Since the materialist explanation of the universe does not allow for teleology, which would presuppose the existence of a blueprint, the idea you have that we can have any accurate knowledge about anything at all is a fond notion without rational basis. We, on the other hand, believe God created human beings in his image and likeness; therefore, we can be certain the human mind is not just part of the landscape but is also to an extent removed from the landscape, and is thus able to process reality as something of an outsider.
Imagine yourself in a school laboratory: on the bench there are microscopes; at the window telescopes; and at the ceiling in every corner a CCTV camera for security. Now imagine that lab represents reality. The microscopes will only tell you about a small subset of reality called the subatomic world. The telescopes will tell you about the outer reaches of the universe, but nothing about the cell. The CCTV camera will give you an idea what the lab is like, but it is constrained by the angle at which it is pointing. Only the teacher standing at the door can give you a description of the whole lab, and so only God can see the whole of reality. If we are made in the image and likeness of God we can participate to some degree in his knowledge of reality. If, on the other hand, you deny the existence of God, you are left uncertain whether you are just a microscope on a bench, and thus uncertain what the range and scope of reality actually is. Furthermore, you have no way of knowing whether or not your mind - the microscope - is even calibrated properly, because you are relying on other human minds (other microscopes, so to speak) to tell you what the mind is capable of. That circular argument is not a very scientific approach, is it?
As I said earlier, unless you can step outside the mind and look at its powers and scope objectively, as an outsider, you have no guarantee it is a reliable filter of reality. God gives us that guarantee; faith, in other words, allows us to trust reason. Without that faith, you have no grounds whatsoever to trust a human mind that is nothing but the by-product of random chance. You perceive reality through the microscope or telescope or CCTV but you have nobody to tell you that what you perceive is just a subset of reality. Irony of ironies, you are left with nothing but blind faith in the human mind as an accurate, trustworthy instrument capable of processing the whole of reality and concluding God is not part of that spectrum.
Anything is possible I guess, however not a proof and there are several issues with your argument.
First of all these are still only theories not facts. You take automatic assumption that it was god that created us and everything and therefore we have something more than basic human brain and physical logic in us. If you damage certain part of the brain functionality, person may cease to walk. If you damage more he may stop talking etc. Finally if you damage it enough you kill that person. And yet, we are to believe that after death, which is equal to complete damage, we raise to the skies, recognize our granma and speak english.
Back to the god, creation and us being "unique", what if we are result of the biological engineering? What if 6000y old sumerian tablets are true? If we really have been biologically engineered by advanced civilization, then bible is also right but in completely different meaning. Then "make to the god image" simply mean image of that race, creation and all said about it would be true but it would not be in terms of such god as you believe, it would be simply just a better developed alien race nothing more. Thats not the god of universe and certainly not what most of people like you imagine. Btw if this sound stretched, its still much more probably and with old tablets still in existence more proven theory. If those old texts are true(and they describe these events very precisely not in vague terms), then all current religions are rendered false. Lets not also forget sumers preceded every other known religion that exist today.
Its simple, we may have a different theories but only facts matter if you want to claim something. When apple drop from the tree its a gravity, this is a fact that can be proven and measured. If we say god exist we cant jump to different theories, whether we can or cannot perceive/understand it, whether he try to hide himself or not. Either we have a total genuine proof or we dont. If god exist and we have no way to comprehend it within our scope of senses as you say, it is a theory not proof. In other words, we will never know for sure. So its not a fact for the very same reason since we cannot find out.
Even worse, religions we have are very specific(and mutually exclusive). Most of the people religion is based on where they born. I can guarantee you if you were born in different place you would be praying to completely different god. And only difference between them is number of subscribers.
Every race start with tribe. Every tribe develop its own god and theory. As the race advance, they curvefit the books to better accept its text among the peers. First gods require sacrifices, then they split one into 2(good and evil) to be accepted, then they may reintroduce something new that better reflect current society(no sacrifice, less violence etc...) and spread the word across the globe. When you are so thoughtfully indoctrinated with your local religion since childhood, its almost impossible to free yourself. Even as an adult, you will continue to believe in something neither you nor your parents nor your grandparents ever witnessed(that could be genuinely proven), simply because certain book says so. A book that was written thousands of years back, when people did not knew even fraction of science we know today and most of their theories also came from assumption(epilepsy is a possession by evil etc...). If you believe in such book, you basically believe what someone of substantially lower education level tell you.
Once again you're missing the point. For all you know evidence of God's existence and nature could be all around you.
Until you can convince me the human mind is an instrument equipped to deal with this evidence I'm afraid I won't have any time for your arguments. Once again I ask you: can a beach ball fit under the lens of a microscope? No it can't. Does that mean the beach ball does not exist? No it doesn't.
But let's go along with your argument and agree that the human mind really is equipped to decide there is no God. The problem for you is that you won't know it is thus equipped until someone steps outside the human mind and assesses its scope and reliability from an external vantage point. That, my friend, is never going to happen. No microscope, now or in the future, will ever be able to tell you it is an instrument equipped to determine whether or not a beach ball exists in the lab. No human being, now or at any point in the future, can decisively conclude human cognition is equipped to answer the question "Is there a God?"
Only God has a complete view of reality; the human mind, made in the image and likeness of God, can share to an extent in that wide-angle view. A human mind that is an accidental by-product of material processes colliding with each other by chance is in no position to dictate what its own powers of perception are, and how far its range extends.
I am not missing anything. You are in "could be" territory which I covered already. God existence could be around me without me ever knowing... or not. You dont have a proof it is so and neither do I that it isnt. So its a faith = bad evidence. Therefore when you say "Only God has a complete view of reality", you are making specific claim to know something for a fact, which is simply not true.
Lets consider this, what if I tell you that I am indeed Jesus Christ, the real reincarnated Jesus that millions of people were waiting for? Lets think about it as a serious proposition for a moment. I am pretty sure it give you good laugh and you wont believe it. Because if you do, you may believe just about anything out there anybody say. You may say "well why would I believe some internet troll, you dont even behave nicely, its impossible". But hey, bible say "those are blessed who havent seen(proof) and believed", also "who are you to judge who god is like". So you have a 2 options, either you believe it or not.
Now, lets assume for a moment what if it really was true? If it was and you didnt believe it, all your faith just went to the toilet waste. You were believing something all your life and finally, now when it came to real deal you rejected it. On the other hand, if you believe it, that would mean you have to believe anything anybody say - and thats obviously stupid.
So after certain point what would likely happen is that you would demand proof, you cannot believe any fool out there and yet thats what faith and religion is about. Remember back then they did not believe Jesus as well right? So eventually I would have to prove it somehow to you and I bet you would double verify anything I do to finally believe in something like that, chances are even then you would remain open to skepticism for example whether I used trick or if its possible to achieve it other way etc... When confronted in reality, you would act totally differently.
Thus there is an important difference here to be seen, while in your private general thoughts about god you are ready to accept a theory without evidence, in reality when confronted you would be a person of reason. In reality on "real deal", you would act rationally demanding a proof on such claim, which is how we do in our normal life and in any other areas of science - verify before believing something. And yet without that confrontation, in your inner yourself, on general god`s definition etc, you allow yourself to accept certain unproven theory(with excuses why it cannot be proven) without any evidence and still claim it to be a true.
Thats your problem and with others like you. And your "lens" or "microscope" theory still doesnt cut it because it doesnt prove god as a fact, I am sorry you have been deceived all your life.
If you think proof is the only way of showing something is real or true then you should prove the following statement:
"Something is real or true if and only if it can be proved".
Needless to say if you can't "prove" this statement then the statement is - by your own criterion - false. Which means you believe wholeheartedly in a contradiction - a clear sign of irrationality.
Go ahead. I'll wait.
You dont read my comments. What I am saying is that unless you can prove something, dont claim it to be the fact. Therefore, until something can be proven I have no reason to believe in it by default which is how we live and evaluate in our every day`s life(and religion is really the only exception for many it seems). People like you dont just believe in something, they take it for a fact. If you said "my opinion is that god likely exist and this is my theory behind my belief" then thats something else, I would not argue with you. But you are saying "only god can..." or "god did not wanted us to..." which is actual claim to the fact. Claim that you know something for a fact when, you simply dont.
And your above example doesnt connect, science never say "things cannot be if they cannot be proven", it says "if we are to estabillish something as a fact, we need to evaluate it". Obviously there are still lot of things waiting to be discovered, so its a nonsense example.
You say: "What I am saying is that unless you can prove something, dont claim it to be the fact."
So go ahead and prove the following statement then:
"Unless you can prove something, dont claim it to be the fact."
And remember, if you can't prove this statement, don't try to claim it has any basis in fact.
Over and out.
To whoever it was that downvoted me for this: on the one hand you have Raul saying unless and until we can prove the existence of God then we should not claim God to be real or true, while on the other he makes one statement after another asserting as fact things he cannot prove to be real or true.
Here's his latest, for example:
"Unless you can prove something, dont claim it to be the fact."
Can he prove that statement? No he can not. A statement like that is not a provable proposition.
At least we don't pretend God is a provable hypothesis.
He or she, on the other hand, will have nothing to do with hypotheses that cannot be proved, yet here he is holding fast to his bottom-line hypothesis, which itself can never be taken into a laboratory and proved.
So now who is the hypocrite? So now who is the irrational "retard", to use an insult he used earlier?
He sets up hurdles for others yet he falls at the very first hurdle himself. How embarrassing is that? Not to mention **hypocritical**.
IMO, most of these are pretty much set to kick off by natural causes.
Seas turning to blood and fish dying -> dead zones and red tide caused by industrial farming practices.
Rivers turning bitter -> Look at any river with significant mining/industrial activity. Esp. if the coming crash leads to scaling back regulations on dumping. And even if it doesn't, I could see plenty of abandoned farms/CAFOs in aa severe economic crisis being a non-trivial problem.
Massive worldwide fires -> While I lived in Georgia, we saw bad water policy + a couple years of drought lead to major forest fires in Florida, so big the smoke was visible all the way in Atlanta.
Back when I studied chemical engineering, I gained an appreciation that complex systems can have a very subtle equilibirum that can shift very quickly. If you want to see God in this, I think He's just holding the consequences of our 'enlightened' modern era back. Ah well, they'll find someone to blame when it all breaks loose.
"IMO, most of these are pretty much set to kick off by natural causes."
If one believes in the Prime Cause as I do, then all of nature and natural causes come from the Prime Cause. We can not observe the Prime Cause directly, but we see the effects.
The ancients used apocalyptic language to form a framework for others to "see" this relationship between what Jefferson stated was "Nature and Nature's God". Apocalyptic language was also used as a tool to convey ideas that could be considered "seditious" by the powers that be of that given time. Hence, its strange nature. However, when one studies apocalyptic language long enough and especially understands the context of the time, place and culture from whence it sprang you can get a pretty fair understanding of it and its meaning.
And much of it does describes the natural movements of nature over epochs of time, and of the corrupt and harmful nature of man that makes things far worse. Particularly if you are amongst the unlucky to be living in the time of prophetic fulfillment.
troll
You forgot 16:12. The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.
"You live in a fucking desert!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0q4o58pKwA
Living in a desert is not the problem. Particularly if you are a nomad.
TOO MANY people living in the desert.....well....that's a whole other story.
Sux when Techno-Magic fails to wrangle mother nature. Men plan, nature decides.
But...they had such high hopes! ;-)
"High" is the operative word here, methinks.
Well, I guess if it's all legal and taxable the ignorant are perfectly happy & compliant living in their own little dream world.
Including the state...but certainly not me ;-)
"You've.....been living in a dream world, Neo."
Morpheus - The Matrix
Hopey died on the trail
WE HAVE DESERTS IN THE US BUT WE DONT LIVE IN THEM, ASSHOLES!!!
What happens in Vagas, stays in Vagas.
When you have a variety of religions, all of which basically believe in the same God, but have different interpretations of him and don't have a problem with saying, "My God can beat the shit out of your God and I'll beat the shit out of you if you don't agree", conflict is inevitable.
Exactly - as the saying goes - " I'm not Christian -I'm Catholic"
How many Christians, Muslims, Hindus in the world? 3, 4 billion? More? I haven't looked it up in a while. I presume it's at least 3 or 4 billion, probably more.
Now how many of them are currently engaged in exclusively religious quarrels? Quarrels, in other words, with no basis in politics, land, culture - just religion? A few thousand? Should we include ISIS as the Number One example of a violent theocracy in the making? Even though we all know they are not actually religiously-minded devotees of Islam but rather CIA- and SAS-trained murderers doing Britain and America's dirty work in the Middle East on behalf of Israel?
But you still think a couple of thousand mercenaries masquerading as religious nutters out of a total world population of billions is enough of a sample to conclude that religion is the number one cause of violent conflict in the world?
the Khazars will drink everyone else's milkshake, eventually, with another $100 billion of US-boobasaurus taxpayer help of course
Why can't the US just let them kill each other?
"Why can't the US just let them kill each other?"
Much quicker and efficient to send in the EPA to 'help' them.
My sentiments exactly although it is about politics and logistics. Whoever is in the area when the conflict in the middle east is over gets the spoils. It is like musical chairs from when we were kids. The music stops and the closest one to the chair gets the chair. The US feigns usefulness by selling it’s help. In most cases it creates the trouble it purports to help with. In either case there needs to be trouble for the US to seem useful to justify staying in the area.
Never mind if you don’t think Al-CIAda or ISIS/ISIL/IS is part of a plan started out of the pentagon. If you look back to the 80’s the CIA literally armed and trained Al Qaeda to fight Soviet interests in the mid east. CIA/DoD literally armed ISIS/ISIL/IS when they were merely Syrian rebels from their new forward base on Libya before rebranding them the new boogyman in the mid east (ISIS/ISIL/IS). No one gives a shit how much trouble goes on in the mid east because to the 'civilized' world it is just a sandbox of a junk yard that someone gets oil from.
The mid east is important to the US because it is the MIDDLE of everything that isn’t .gov. Go to the north there is Russia/Moscow. N/E and you have Europa. South and you have Africa. East and you have China.
Not only that but we have ally’s called Jew state and Oil state. Oil state needs to be sure they keep a hold on competition and the Jew state seems to me a romantic vision of a wholly land written about in a book or scroll depending on your point of view.
Fuck water! You don’t have more conflict without water; you just have death. Problem solved. The eugenicists will be thrilled.
Well it's our job to speed up the process of everything.
If the US wanted peace in the Middle East, all it would have to do is leave the Middle East. It wouldn't be long though, before things got a little less peaceful, in many other places. So given the choice; I think all parties can agree that if there is going to be bloodshed, the desert is the best place for it..
Okay. Just a little tired of those people and their problems. I suppose if someone must be killed, it might as well be them.
European will wait until IC gets to Vienna like it was over 300 years ago. so wake me up when they get there.
What interesting that IC plans to conquer half of Europe, Africa and Asia including India and part Of China but not US.
Why? Two alternatives:
1. They cannot swim.
2. They do not intend to bite the hand that feed them.
For Syrian war update:
https://contrarianopinion.wordpress.com/syrian-war-update/
Because it's the friggin' Middle East. What the hell are they supposed to have around there. Peace?
i have hunted with bushmen trackers in South Africa. The field craft and tracking skills are simply amazing. I can track a deer's blood trail with some efficiency, unless it rains overnight. These guys can track one animal,,, on almost hard clay like soil with no blood or hair to follow in a miriad of tracks and come out the other side with your animal. It is one of those things you truly have to see to believe.
When those that rape the planet, have no regard for human life and certainly never look around and stop to appreciate the simple things have run their course it is the people with skills that matter who will remain on top. Tracking may be something you may want to brush up on. Solar flare? EMP? Who knows. If you have never put meat on your table you have hunted and killed I would say it may pay somewhere down the road to know your way around the woods, waters and guns. Just a thought.
My money is on the desert nomads. Night all.
Well, squire broke into my closet and was shooting my Hoyt when I came home from work, so, it's a start I guess.
They have no regard because they don't know. They are taught to synthesize corporate goals into their equilibrium. Here is an example:
Edith: Marge, I dunno what to do about this wet spot in my panties.
Marge: What works for me is King Charmin. Stuff that in there and it works.
Edith(later): Wow, Marge, that really worked! Thank you. I think everybody should do this too!
Thats satyrized from 40's radio commercials. Not much different than the 80s video equivalent. TV? Your brain does not understand that the conversation you heard on the radio between Edith and Marge is not a real conversation that you really, physically witnessed.
This is the gap. You can be sure Senator Cumwhore will grant his halfbreeds a gazillion dollars of your life before he'd give a buck to me, unless he needs to cover his tracks. Then I'll tell him to fuck off if I have dirt on him, or while working for him, start working on it.
Thsi is not propaganda. This is my experience.
Think really long and hard on this. What do you know as primary information, as in can't be reduced at all, that you got in the first person? Start working with that.
When you as a race ask for your best, ask first why we should bail you out, even at our own peril, as it is cast before you now.
I QUIT
I think my best bet in such scenario would be trading a skill set of mine for the tracking skill of another. My one and only experience with Mr's crossbow lead to a dent in his TwinEagles barbeque. No blood trail resulted and I'm thankful it wasn't mine.
Miffed;-)
Lady, Get out of the way. There is nothing to reconcile the past. In all your glory, you can't save them. I held it in my eye, and I offered it up, and I got a boot in the face. Yours failed to kill me.
This is done.
Fuck homo sapiens sapien
You are right. I have never saved anyone and I have tried many times. Every time I was cast away and tasted dust. It is only possible to save oneself. However, they never broke who I was. That is my victory for all their denigrations and I continue as myself for one more day.
Miffed
I had a chat yesterday with an hispanic lady of modest means who I have known for years. She's on the front line of this crime wave and her community is getting sacked, double plus good time. Charlie in the wire. Her community won't be voting for any liberal asshats. Elected and appointed officials have opened the gates of hell. Time to start hangng the marauders in front of the capitol to send the right message.
Clean up crew.
I have seen this in several communities here. I am fortunate not to live in one. I feel for your friend because things will get worse and the innocent will suffer. Never in my life would I have imagined I would have this many arms and ammo. And I still question, is it enough?
Miffed
You might be in an autonomous situation. Thats best, stock up & stay put. Otherwise when TSHF you should have 3 months food, water, arms and fuel for your crew. Depending how close you are to the heat, you'll probably relocate within a month to a better position. You can only take what you can carry, and grab with no notice. Plan the redundant carry across the n in your tribe now, because you won't have time to later. Be Prepared.
I've had tube sticking out of me a few times. Not from illness. I'm missing some parts, but I still get out of bed every day and I never ask for help. I feel for you. Even though I dodge the State medicos, couldn't happen at a worse political time. Obamacare is anti-American. Real vitamin C is the shit, get as much as you can, but not pills, from organic sources - citrus. The pill makers lie like lobbyists. In the 90s my good friend beat terminal cancer. They gave her 3 months. She's still here. modern doctors are as slimy as tenured professors of phrenology. The chemo made her so sick she couldn't eat. She went vegan, she had to. That more than anything saved her life. She's still a vegan. Toxic food, even then... Though a steak and french fries is fine once in a while, we are cut for the macrobiotic diet. Indian cuisine is pretty clean. If you can't hold food down, get a juicer. Start with carrots, apples and pineapple juice. I don't know what it is about apples, but an apple a day cleans your gut like nothing else. Organic meat is OK. Mother's chicken soup from scratch does heal. You want to simmer the carcass to get the essence out of the marrow in the bones, otherwise its just the same as canned shit.
DYOH
You speak as a man with experience which is more valuable than an armchair analyst ( me). I have roughly 3 months food in the freezer, dried or on the hoof. This is a lean 3 months but since I have done 3 weeks living on only raw juice from my juicer, I know how to live calorie deficient. Being about 45 miles from the probable hot action gives me an advantage. However if disaster were to strike if at work, I'd be in serious trouble. I mapped my best escape route and sent it to a ZHer with a lot of combat experience. Told me I'd be picked off quickly. No woman walking alone in canyons would make it if their were male gangs roaming the area. Our work disaster plan is to stay in place. I'm not sure if this is wise in the long term when supplies dwindle.
My home is in a great local. Remote and on top of a Mesa. 360 degree view and quite defensible. I mounted tripods in several locations for my REPR. Roaming gangs will not be a problem. Serious military engagement? I'm toast.
I am secondary bug out for two families living closer in. Both have military experience. I would trust them with my life. I am honored to have great associations. My situation could be worse.
I am making bone broth from an old rooster as I type. He spurred me one to many times. ;-) may you never run out of non essential parts to remove. I am approaching that my self.
Miffed
Send in the jet fighters...rock the casbar
Wonder why living water is mentioned so many times in the New Testament?
Here on the West coast of USA, HAARP is playing fuckall with rainfall
When men play God, all bets are off
Zbigniew Brzezinski's Grand Chessboard explains the reasons why conflict is inevitable in this region, the reasons are far beyond water. (hint conflict is required as a control mechnaism for the globe)
http://www.takeoverworld.info/Grand_Chessboard.pdf
Turkey becomes Anathol?
You can thertainly they that again.
I'M guessing IPA - maybe Bulldog - at 8.7%?
Or a Dogfish Head 90 Minute... not sure if you can get that in purgatory
probably go with no heaven or hell as not much middle ground there. Purgatory is that period of time before you open your eyes to find out what she looks like
I think they will be able to find someone needing oil that can build desalination plants.
Why More Conflict Is Inevitable In The Middle East: Its profitable!
Warfare (dicks) < Middle (juice) > Welfare (cunts)
There are other maps of that region that better represent the crimes Islam did/does there. DYOH
Didn't someone years ago say the next war would be over water? But, someone also talked about Peak Oil and gold at $10,000/oz. Sigh....
Americans & Russians should make following pact:
Eradicate ALL islamic cult-worshipers from mid-east,
Russia advances from east, America from west,
meet in the middle and divide up the land between them
repopulate with civilized humans.
Caitlyn Jenner is civilized?
Pure genius!
Or just tell the israelis to pack it up and head back to their true homeland in Ukraine. Give em 48 hours before the nukes are set loose. 90% of global problems cease.
People in the Midfle East have been fighting each other over water and oasis for centuries. Nothing has changed. Just wait until it happens in California!
Wow...I didn't know that...I guess ISIS originated from a grass roots movement to secure "water rights" to some area of the Middle East..silly me for reading newspapers and watching TV..
All this water in the oceans on the planet but not a drop to drink.
http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/blog/2015/08/08/how-the-world-works-part-i/
One could speculate that the Western Ruling Classes have staged significant inside job, false flag attacks, in order to get the "War on Terror" going as a self-fulfilling prophesy, because they were planning on being able to develop the context inside of which they would have apparently justifiable reasons to switch gears in order to mass murder hundreds of millions, or even billions of people ???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkCEOSgLRt4
Zbigniew Brzezinski: It Is Infinitely Easier to Kill a Million People than it is to Control ThemI would recommend the idealized resolutions of human problems through intellectual scientific revolutions, which would most of all apply to changing the ways that we perceive and operate the human death control systems. However, obviously, we are headed towards runaway death insanities, due to the degree that the human species has manifested runaway psychotic criminal insanities, due to the long, long history of social success based upon backing up lies with violence, morphing to become political economy based on ENFORCED FRAUDS.
Tragically, at the present time, it appears that the only actually possible resolutions to the actual problems are those which are the default solutions due to the structure of social pyramid systems being based on backing up lies with violence. Therefore, it continues to appear most probable that the population of the planet in about a Century will likely be less than a billion, rather than more than ten billion.
For all practical purposes, it is politically impossible to have any relatively rational resolutions of human ecology problems, especially since human history has developed through warfare to create globalized political economy based upon ENFORCED FRAUDS, which require that the vast majority of human beings continue to either deliberately ignore the basic laws of nature, or deliberately misunderstand those laws in the most absurdly backward ways possible.
Theoretically speaking, the necessary resolutions to various problems MUST have as their central feature the death control systems. Moreover, theoretically speaking, to do that in a world which has developed globalized electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs, would take radical paradigm shifts in the ways that we perceive what the real death control systems actually are, and how those could realistically be changed.
Given the basic facts stated by the ZH article above:
it appears most probable that the resolutions to those problems will become those that the ruling classes in the Western world have actually been preparing, and working towards being able to implement, namely, to mass murder of hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people. Moreover, IF one is able and willing to more realistically face the nature of the underlying problems, then the only alternative real resolutions would have to be the development of better death control systems.
While that appears to be scientifically and technologically possible, such alternatives continue to be politically impossible, since there would have to be profound series of intellectual scientific revolutions in the minds of enough of the people in order to change the basic ways that they think about the death control systems. Instead, the default positions continue to be the mass murder of the majority of the human population, as the exponential rate of strip-mining the planet's natural resources runs into unavoidable limits of diminishing returns.
Since human artificial selection systems developed to become most socially successful when done through the maximum possible deceits and frauds, and since those Neolithic styles of civilization were originally most advanced in the Middle Eastern areas, from which they spread out and conquered most of the rest of the world, through implementing their basic kinds of backing up lies with violence, what went around is now coming around, that the Western World's forms of Neolithic Civilization are apparently preparing to indulge in death insanities in the Middle East.
Given the basic facts, there do not appear to be any other reasonably possible outcomes. The ruling classes are finding it harder and harder to control millions and millions of people, while it is more possible than ever to kill hundreds of millions, or even billions of people. The deeper dilemmas continue to be that almost nothing exists now but core groups of organized crime, surrounded by layers of controlled opposition, both of which stay within the same frame of reference of deceits and frauds about themselves, as well as everyone else. Thus, there is nothing but the dynamic equilibria between different systems of organized lies operating robberies, while those are becoming way more unbalanced.
I must agree that "More Conflict Is Inevitable In The Middle East." The only genuine alternatives would be for the different dominant organized crime gangs to negotiate better death controls. However, since that continues to appear to be politically impossible, we are necessarily rushing towards the manifestations of death insanities being provoked.
In light of all of this, the lack of a concrete strategy and response thus far by European Union leaders is truly baffling.
Because our beloved great EU leaders are a bunch of PC crowd. Everybody laughs at the idea of IS extending the caliphate into Europe but they mean it. The fifth column is already there (thousands of European muslems have joined IS) and more coming in hiding between the refugees that come into Europe by the hundreds every day. But European leaders are falling over each other to show how good Gutmensch they are.
Global warming, thinner ice caps, no permanent glaciers anymore?
Which brings a question: WHERE IS THE WATER GOING???
WHO IS STEALING MY F****ING WATER?????
:D
I know, I shouldn't joke about this...
The waters of the Tigris and Euphrates are in Erdogan's hands...
ANd the West's blindness in making king oil its only concern over 50 years has pushed the region back into the medieval Crusader vs Jihad mentality, convoluting it into an open hearth furnace, an ethnic and obscurantist tinder box.
All for OIL.
Erdogan will use all his skills to feed the winds of regional dissension in order to recreate an Ottoman preeminence based on Sunni Islam; his version. All the while using Nato alliance and Oil bartering via his strategic pipelines to ensure the West stays his friend.
Iran is today his temporary ally against rival Sunni Saud and rabid Wahhabism; but tomorrow... Safavid vs Ottoman rivalry could be rekindled by this toxic mixture of Oil/water shortage exacerbated by religious/ethnic intolerance.
We are back to Medieval times and our Oligarchy world is totally geared to this neo-feudal mindset of 1% rulers by financial dictat.
Corporate kings and Commodity Popes...reign once again over the SERFS using their surrogate political front men held on a leash based on NEW SIMONy.
Back to 1100 AD we go !
Dictatus Papae of Oligarchy Markets and Kaiseridee of Pax Americana's vs China's rising neo-Mongol empire.
What a regression this is turning out to be !
He'd be elated to destroy the Kurds.
Two words: greater israel.
Everyone should read this in detail. about Libya and Water.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/libyas-water-wars-and-gaddafis-great-man-ma...