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"F$$king Morons": Russia's Lavrov Drops F-Bomb At Saudi-Syria Press Conference
Earlier this week, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov met with his Saudi counterpart Adel al-Jubeir to discuss options for Syria’s future. Here’s the context:
Realizing that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s badly depleted forces are likely to face defeat sooner or later, either at the hands of the various militants "freedom fighters" vying for control of the country or else at the hands of the US military which we imagine could "accidentally" end up engaging Assad’s forces directly once the air campaign against ISIS picks up, Moscow has gone back and forth between suggesting that it’s willing to negotiate for an "alternative" to Assad and saying that Russia is willing to lend military support to Damascus if it means helping to eradicate "terrorists." Again we see that both sides are prepared to use ISIS as an excuse to turn what has so far been a thinly-veiled proxy war into an actual confrontation between East and West and although Russia may be willing to "go there" if all options are exhausted, the economic realities of collapsing crude and Western sanctions are all too real which is presumably why the Kremlin entertained Saudi foreign minister Adel al-Jubeir in Moscow on Tuesday to discuss next steps for Syria. In the end, it all came down to the fate of Assad and both sides are apparently willing to stand their ground - for now.
In short, the Saudis see "no place for Assad in the future of Syria" while Russia isn’t quite ready to throw in the towel on the embattled strongman. After the meeting, the two diplomats held a joint press conference.
For those interested in more detail on the "friggin' mess" that served as the backdrop for Tuesday’s presser, see here, but the clip shown below - in which Lavrov calls the Saudis "fucking morons" under his breath at 41:05 in - should suffice as the Cliff’s Notes version.
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Fucking criminal, corrupt, cruel, crazy morons is what he actually meant.
There are few nations that spread so much violence and killing as our beloved friends, the Saudis.
Fucking towel-heads
Even Mother Theresa would lose patience with the Saudi Inbreds.
Lavrov said :" Can't stand them " ( Terpet' ne mogu)
F’ng EVIL morons might be a little more to the point..
But that applies to the US Administration and State as well.
Policy is not to provide constructive solutions, but to de-stabilize and assure continuous chaos.
Didn't sound like "fucking morons" to me; at least, not in English.
Anyone here speak Russian... and can make out what he said?
Latrov speaks English but usually speaks in Russian.
BTW, for anyone who doubts Policy intent, just look at Ukraine, Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.. not to mention numerous Central and South American countries.
The distribution of IQ's among Arabs is well to the left of that of Russians. Lavrov is probably well above the mean for a Russian, and a frightening percentage of Arabs are on the moronic end of the Russian distribution. It's not quite Idiocracy in the Arab world. There is a distribution, and some Arabs arent so inbred, but lets face it their domestic competition doesnt keep them sharp.
No wonder Trump loves the Russians
A Trump Presindency would usher in a new era of Dentante, with Summits including Vodka shot contests, leg wrestling, noogies, bi lateral cussing at reporters..
A former US ambassador in Moscow suggests Lavrov was talking about the Saudi official when he said "fucking morons" - therefore you know that's not what happened. According to russian reddit user levitating_cucumber the slur was directed at someone in the public ("[...] on 43:08 he says these words to someone from the audience when he's given a word: ["mi vam ne mechaem"] (x2) which means "Are you sure we don't distract you?". So he talks about morons from the audience. And this is how western media works. Take things out of the context. [...]").
Jefferson, thanks for clearing that up. Western media (read ZH there) loves to get things wrong.
But how do you really feel?
S A is setting itself up for a big China/Russian/Iran payback event.
jefferson32, if you have not noticed ZH has changed over the last couple years. Now they support the meme of the western media in regards to Russia. The mysterious sub was another obvious case where ZH condemned Russia as ZH proclaimed there was a sub, it had called for help and it was Russian. All things we now know were lies.
Even from the this article ZH states - " while Russia isn’t quite ready to throw in the towel on the embattled strongman.", notice how ZH in very slick fashion reinforces that Assad is an embattled strongman. Instead of the leader of a once peaceful and prosperous country who is fighting insurgents sent by the jewish controlled western powers.
The old Tylers are gone or simply comply with the new owners.
+1 on Assad
@Strannick..
I have no idea why you have been downvoted. +1000 from me. The idiocrats would pay to watch President Camacho (Pepsi) Trump frollicking with Putin, as they consume mass quantities of rations.
Sounds good to me.
They're quite inbred. Around 54% are married to their cousins or their parents are 1st degree cousins. In Pakistan (not arabs) percentage is even higher, around 84%. I know what I'm talking about, I live among them aand I've seen reliable statistics. Lots of birth defects, poor health etc. I'm pissed off because the Jews opened the borders of Europe for them (especially UK).
Great post, and I believe you! I was on an AirLiner to London full of Pakistianis, what I saw was just what you describe.
Also, you are right! It is the Jews and Zionists who are behind the UK Open Borders policy. Everywhere these people go, they seek to destroy local cultures and ethnic groups, especially Northern European. Why? To better control each society they plant themselves in. A strong united christian anglo saxon UK is the jews biggest nightmare. They want a multi cultural crime ridden hell hole, they can exploit at will.
Jack, you're placing youself in that "moron" IQ subcategory with that comment. Pakistan is not anywhere near Arabia, and Paki's are not Arabs. Most are Muslims, as are a lot of Arabs. Just like lots of Brits are Christian, and so are a lot of Philippinos and Incas. But you probably wouldn't mix up a Brit with an Inca.
No one said Paki's where Arabs. The comments concerned the effects of inbreeding and intelligence, not necessarily race.
it is not the joos, it is the Germans, Nazism never died....they are using the joos to do their bidding, without their knowlage.
Well,.they are kind of fucking stupid.
Morons was a bit harsh
Keremetsky: it sounds like there is a ["blyed"] in there, which is indeed fuck. ["debily"] means morons.
audio is very poor. I heard "terpet' ", which is close to "blyat" in rapid speech.
terpet' means tolerate. Has nothing to do with whore.
I've been called all these things and more by my Russian wife at one time or another, mostly deserved. It's a tough competition for the language that is the most vile and effective for cursing between German and Russian. "Predurock"is a common one she uses. My kids and I have a competition to guess what invective she will use first when we arrive in disappointing circumstances.
Regardless of what was said and the context, the House of Saud is as evil as it gets...
He said something like "blya... debili" (cannot write in Russian here) which translated means "fuck... morons", not "fucking morons". He probably ment whoever asked the question he was answering to.
Good. For a moment I thought Tyler was making shit up. Never trust a guy who doesn't swear.
Actually, the other way round... Something inaudible, and then "Debili... bliadj" (Morons... Fuck)
Looks like that was adressed towards something he was reading behind the desk while the interpreter was translating his previous remarks
I speak russian. The only word I heard was "DEBILY" "? ? ? ? ? ?" which means Morons.... You also need to note that he said that after he read something from his cell phone, or some kind of device... So, I can conclude that it was not ment to/for saudis... He probably read some kind of message on his device that made him mad... So, he called some kind of group of people as Morrons... That it....
..must have been a text from Kerry
Comment of the day Manthong! Well done, I spit my coffee all over my keyboard and monitor...
He was thinking, "damn, I could've had a V-8."
Correction... Now that I watch the same video on my home computer I can also hear that he says: BLET DEBILY... It would be exactly the same as ZH translated... Fu**ing Morons. And I also think that he might be looking at his notes instead of his cell phone or device... But I still think that it was not ment for saudis...
I speak Russian - cho cho - yes, all I heard was 'idiot' (de-blee).
I speak aramaic, french, swahili, an xosa and it didn't sound like that either. I wonder if maybe he was speaking another language. Like Russian.
The middle east is one big cesspool with everybody fighting over the best turds. The best answer would be to walk away, which of course all the 'smart' people will never do......
When your playing Chess and everyone around you is playing checkers... I can understand the frustration.
Checkers? You give the Bongo too much credit. He's playing House with Reggie.
House? I thought he was playing hide the Salami with Reggie.
Nah, it is pigeon chess ...
True. Lavrov said " Can't stand them "about some aggressive anti-Russia journo
more here:
http://thesaker.is/ukraine-sitrep-august-13th-2015-by-scott/
Lavrov drops the Can’t-Stand-Them epithet. World shocked!
The Saudis aren't morons (well the ones doing all this) but they are agents provocateur.
It is their job to foment war where we want it. Who would have thought the worst alliance on the planet would be the USA, Saudi Arabia, and Israel?
World domination makes for some strange bedfellows.
pods
Whomever is responsible for inciting the next war is clearly slacking. Last I heard, they were rolling out Horsie Kerry again to froth about chemical weapons. Warmongers have no originality or creativity.
Sheep have short memories.
when his tongue comes slithering out, you know he's lying... pretty much every other sentence
Kerry's got some miracles to perform on behalf of the Messiah in Cuba first.
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2015/08/246025.htm
Adel is a fucking moron... and his sister is a ho... and his brother is a banker.
Adel is well educated and well spoken, but that is a far cry from what's actually needed as FM in KSA. But this is what hapens when you have entrenched aristocracy, cronyism and corruption in a government and society, it facilites well born people (along with his father being stationed in DC for years) rising higher than they should.
Saudi Royalty are as inbred as they get, and have all the fucked up traits of all the other inbred clans on the third planet.
Inbreeding over time produces more and more fucked up offspring, both physically and mentally.
It's a biological fact.
just the sort of pliant, servile scum the US & co desire sitting on that sea of oil.
But how else to ensure the inheritance stays in the family AND that the offspring are highly likely to be sociopaths (there is a genetic component, believed to come from the mother's side, see Political Ponerology).
"Inbreeding over time produces more and more fucked up offspring, both physically and mentally.
It's a biological fact."
Recessive genes pairing up and producing recessive traits.
Yeah .... I am with you on that.... Saudis are slime and working on replacing Israel as the asshole of the world.
Name calling under one's breath is clearly an act of war.
USA is #1, and never doubt it.
So. A rose by any other name is still just a rose.
So disgusting that all we would need to do to rid ourselves of these tribal vermin is to look the other way long enough for their own 'kingdom' to devour them.
yeah right he did.
Only American female "diplomats" talk about others that way
This is BS designed to wedge the Russian-Saud relationship-one over which the "real " American response should "Oh Shit!"
Saudi-Arabia is completly controlled by the Synagogue.
http://www.synagoguerising.com/
The international money changers do not send US-Dollars for oil, to Arab-Musels, which they do not control by them self.
They are not that stupid.
Your fascist U.S. government killed over a million Iraqis for no good reason. Maimed millions more. And used depleted uranium to spread birth defects through the populous. All the while spending over $3 trillion mainly to spawn ISIS.
Where did you get your stats from? The Lancet article Soros paid for that was based on a BS mathematical model or the International Red Cross, Red Cresent, Iraqi government or the US military? (All have estimates below 100k - and much of that was Muzzies killing muzzies.)
All you commenters are fluent in Russian? I'm impressed, but to me this post is totally useless so I rated it "poor".
Tried to find subtitles, but couldn't find them.
Obviously, on the contents I can't have an opinion.
try looking in a mirror America
But isn't that why the Bush/Obama administration loves them sooooo very much?
Wasn't that why the efftard, Obama, was lecturing Kenyans about tolerance while the Saudis were beheading gays and lesbians at the same time, just as one or more Orthodox Jews in Israel attacked young girls (and killed at least one now) at a gay pride march there?
There are few nations that spread so much violence and killing as our beloved friends, the Saudis.
You've got to be fucking joking. For your edification, here's two: the USSA and Israel.
The Saudi's are strictly amateur league. They would need to step the mayhem up a couple of orders of magnitude to match these two.
That is the same feeling the American people have so, whats the big deal?
The big deal is that our presidents are always giving hthem blowjobs!
On that we agree mr. Lavrov.
this story is f$$king great. how come all our "elected representatives" have to sit down to aim when they go to the bathroom? when the f$$k do we get some guys we a real set of balls on them??
When you grow a pair of your own, Skippy.
"Sergei Lavrovfor President in 2016!" He'd sure be better than Hillary!
My fucking lazy ass dog would be better than Hillary.
El Chapo would be better than any conservatard.
Don't get that started. I have already invested in 3 "Putin For President 2016" and "Putin Hope" T-shirts. Lavrov can be secretary of State.
They could put some ISIS chap in charge of government waste, where he could cut the overhead.
That's mission creep.
They are already in charge of testing USSA MIC weapons.
I love the theater.
They are all fucking morons if the are naive enough to think this isn't getting more transparent by the day.
The Russians are clearly fed up. What possible stunt could they pull to screw the west economically?
All they have to do is stay strong and wait. Eventually the entire world will decide (publically) it's not worth it to tow the line for USSA and their handlers in Tel Aviv. The middle of next month will be a doozy with the Iran sanction deal.
I think Putin is supporting Sanders. Russia right now is desasembling it's public health care because it just does not work. I would not be surprised if he desided to shoot USA with the same cursed red arrow that took down the Empire.
It's called the New Development Bank. ;)
Well he is right
Calling the Syrians effing morons is a compliment.
Here is a partial list of Saudi Arabia's crimes in Yemen that are conveniently ignored by the free and fair press of the West - look the Kardashians have a rabbit:
At least 3,500 have been killed as a result of the Saudi-led war, launched on March 26 of this year. Some 1,700 of these have been confirmed as civilians, according to the UN, with some 3,800 more civilians confirmed wounded.
Nearly 80 percent of the Yemeni population faces conditions of starvation, near starvation, and/or lack of reliable access to drinking water.
More than 1.2 million Yemenis have been forced to flee their homes by the war. At least 50,000 of the displaced have fled the country entirely, seeking refuge in neighboring countries of Oman, Djibouti, Somalia and Sudan.
Responsibility for the bloodshed and humanitarian disaster in Yemen lies squarely with Saudi Arabia, the other Gulf monarchies and their backers in Washington. While technically headed by the Saudi monarchy, the military onslaught against Yemen is a direct outgrowth of US imperial policy in the Middle East.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/07/20/yeme-j20.html
You must have forgotten that the Yemen conflict was started and supported by Iran. Facts actually do matter when placing blame. On the other hand I have no sympathy for any of those muzzie ragheads.
Arabian assholas
Nice, He should of said it out loud. He would of had more respect.
Well, he's right-isn't he?
MUST...GET...SYRIAN...GOLD...TO...REPLENISH...COMEX...AND...GLD
all for oil and the petro-dollar paradigm...
if this corrupt banker controlled governemnt abandoned the fucking house of blonde hair chasing pieces of shit they'd be dead within hours....
FUCK THE SAUDIS AND THE ZIONIST ENTITY....
Lavrov is somewhere on this website.
I knew Boris Alotovkrap sounded familiar!
this could relate to sa would not cut oil production. russia is gettig desprate. once sa reduces oil production, syria is gone.
Cool, I thought he`s a boring person compare to Putin, lol apparently not ;). Should have said it loud to those medieval fuckers.
Lavrov boring? No:-) But Western media are not so obsessed with him as with Putin, so they don't show him as much. But he is famous for his very sharp and frank statements (exactly like Putin).
Quotes about Lavrov:
Western diplomats call Lavrov Mr Nyet - "Mr. No." Russian President Vladimir Putin named Lavrov foreign minister precisely because of this tough attitude, Simes says: “Putin saw in him a kindred soul, one prepared to stand for Russian national interests, who would not hesitate to be acerbic in debates,” Simes said. Lavrov was picked “to project Russian power, Russian pride, and that’s what he’s doing.”
And, as Bloomberg’s Ken Fireman in Washington and colleagues in Moscow report, Lavrov is not one to take nyet for an answer: When New York City instituted a ban on indoor smoking in 2003, United Nations officials told everyone working in the East Side headquarters to comply. Lavrov, Russia’s then-UN ambassador, was having none of it. Lavrov kept right on smoking cigarettes, arguing that the world body wasn’t under the jurisdiction of the city.
Put simply, he's become the foreign minister whom the United States loves to hate. During his time as foreign minister, his American counterparts have been Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Condoleezza Rice and Colin L. Powell. He seems to have teased and annoyed them all:
The Post's own Glenn Kessler later observing that "Lavrov has perfected the art of irritating Rice -- so much so that she often responds in a very sharp and even emotional way." Rice's autobiography lists a number of tense, if not downright hostile, interactions with Lavrov.
It was Lavrov, who chided Hillary Clinton, when the United States mistranslated the Russian word for "reset" on a button given as a gift in 2009 (the word actually meant "overcharge"). Later, when Russia blocked attempts for a U.N. resolution on Syria and Clinton called it a travesty, Lavrov said that the West's (and by extension, Clinton's): "reaction verges on hysteria."
Personally, his dominating physical appearance -- he's known for his height and his athletic ability -- is tempered by reports of his softer side that focuses on his apparent love of writing poetry (though he has also been reported to be a big fan of more "macho" pursuits such as buying Italian suits, Scotch whisky and smoking).
Lol thanks, you know more about that guy than I do about my father lol ;).
he said "they are braindead" .... tayler you need to translate better
he said "they are braindead" .... tayler you need to translate better
Actually k you are correct on that point.
But when you look at the broader context of the attempted overthrow of the Syrian government with Saudi money and Israeli, British and American "intelligence services" chafing at the bit to kill a few hundred thousand more on top of the 260,000 that are already dead in the last four years in this conflict just so they can isolate Russia from selling their oil to whomever?... And we haven't event mentioned what has been happening on Russia's doorstep since their Olympic Games in '14 you'd have to admit that it really doesn't matter much on the choice of words he used or didn't use at this point!
I'd much rather see Mr. Lavrov using harsh invectives in describing the towel headed monkey(s) that are wholly owned subsidiary of the Anglo-American establishment than seeing a nuclear exchange say somewhere near Syria or Ukraine in the very near future!
Wouldn't you?
If he just spoke english we wouldn't have to guess.
If he just spoke english we wouldn't have to guess.
Or Hebrew?
If you are speaking on the world stage and know english why not use it so more people understand what you are saying. Show how smart you are too. As it stands now on ZH there are several interpretations. I have know idea who is right and who is just being witty.
If you are speaking on the world stage and know english why not use it so more people understand what you are saying. Show how smart you are too.
Well by your very own comment at least we know you're wearing the authentic "made in the U.S.A." label!... The ugly American rears it's head once more! I would say learn another language but what's the point?
No wonder this Country gets no respect and both is and has been in the shitter too long to remember!!!!
I'll be your ugly American any day. But you are still going to have to speak to me in english if you want to piss me off.
Lavrov calls the Saudis "fucking morons"...
Now Sergei that wasn't very polite of you at all.
What you should have said to Mr. al-Jewbeir is that a "six sided" blue and white star under that rag on your head or are you just happy to see me?!!!
I have a lot of respect for Lavrov he until that point has always remained very polite, calm and thoughtful. He must be really upset to do that from what I've observed of him.
Another point that Saudi guy didn't look like an Arab to me, did the FM from Tibilisi sit in for the presser? Is it Saakashvili's nephew?
Russia isn’t quite ready to throw in the towel on the embattled strongman.
Embattled "strongman"? He's an ophthalmologist!
He's an embattled opthalmologist.
Well he is a Tyrant. Oh wait, we have to wait till next season when the retards realize that TV show is about him.
pods
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Between "Tyrant" and "The Americans"(written by a Jewish ex-CIA agent to smear Russians as inhumanly duplicitous), FX has the caricatures of our au courant enemies down pat and liquified for easy consumption by the "savvy" American TV watcher.
Then there's "Homeland" for the TV watcher who can't be bothered with the finer "details" of our enemies and prefer the dusky muslim of indeterminate origin; an Israeli-written show(of course).
Oh did I forget to mention? Tyrant is written by the same Israeli as Homeland. He was trucked in from Israel to write these shows after 9/11. People talk about propaganda like it's confined to Fox News and Obama. This is the real propaganda. Nothing out of the State Department's mouth would be relevant without these shows as "background".
And these are the top rated shows in America. They revel in the mythology. And they deserve whichever doom is on the horizon.
I have only seen the previews. Don't watch much TV. I picked up on the subtlety of the propaganda during Law and Order. You the viewer always knew who did it. So when the cops had to bend the rules slightly to gain conviction, you applauded it. And to keep things fresh, they sometimes let one go, letting you know full well who did it, and how the cops just couldn't get them following the rules that they couldn't bend.
People get big bucks to study this shit. Light years ahead of the crap they pushed in the 50s.
pods
I haven't seen Tyrant either, but now on reading the reviews it looks like another "Angry Ambiguous Arab" type thing, like Homeland. Typical Israeli claptrap. The writer is also involved in some stupid show based in Jerusalem about the fanatics who want to bring about the apocalypse. Sort of a Da Vinci Code for Israelis, at first glance.
Yeah I don't really watch this stuff either, though I did sort of get sucked into the CIA-written The Americans. The amount of thought and subtlety behind it is astonishing. Well, coming from Hollywood that is. The overall effort is obviously in demonizing Russians as if they were a different species than us. That's how rabid it is. These Russians, they are amoral devils. Not a subtle message, despite the subtleties in production value.
You're absolutely right about there being big bucks behind it.
What does the US expect from an inbred ruling elite with a hereditary king? Appalachia in the Middle East?
200 Brides for 50 Half-Brothers...
So,
I take it that the idea the Saudi's are looking to Russia for a new protector haven't panned out, huh?
World politics not as bi-polar and simple as the dunderheads thought, eh?
Gee, who (with a brain like a labrador) would have thought? (To everyone with a human size brain it ought to have been obvious. And all the statements to the contrary ought to have been immediately dismissed as propaganda...or at least very ineffective propaganda, because no one seems to issue any other kind of news these days.)
bombing tel aviv or riyadh would get their attention. if assad has to go he may as well provide some fireworks.
They're not fucking Morons. They're fucking Zionist's.
An Iraqi Mukhabarat (General Military Intelligence Directorate) Top Secret report, “The Emergence of Wahhabism and its Historical Roots,” dated September 2002 and released on March 13, 2008, by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency in translated English form, points to the Dönmeh roots of the founder of the Saudi Wahhabi sect of Islam, Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab. Much of the information is gleaned from the memoirs of a “Mr. Humfer,” (as spelled in the DIA report, “Mr. Hempher” as spelled the historical record) a British spy who used the name “Mohammad,” claimed to be an Azeri who spoke Turkish, Persian, and Arabic and who made contact with Wahhab in the mid-18th century with a view of creating a sect of Islam that would eventually bring about an Arab revolt against the Ottomans and pave the way for the introduction of a Jewish state in Palestine. Humfer’s memoirs are recounted by the Ottoman writer and admiral Ayyub Sabri Pasha in his 1888 work, “The Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism.”
In his book, The Dönmeh Jews, D. Mustafa Turan writes that Wahhab’s grandfather, Tjen Sulayman, was actually Tjen Shulman, a member of the Jewish community of Basra, Iraq. The Iraqi intelligence report also states that in his book, The Dönmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahhabis, Rifat Salim Kabar reveals that Shulman eventually settled in the Hejaz, in the village of al-Ayniyah what is now Saudi Arabia, where his grandson founded the Wahhabi sect of Islam. The Iraqi intelligence report states that Shulman had been banished from Damascus, Cairo, and Mecca for his “quackery.” In the village, Shulman sired Abdul Wahhab. Abdel Wahhab’s son, Muhammad, founded modern Wahhabism.
http://m.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/10/26/the-doenmeh-the-middle-ea...
One of the more interesting ideas I have come across in my historical study has been that of the 'Crypto-Jew'. Which of course first pops up in Spain, around the time of Columbus (1492).
A person hiding their religious beliefs, period, is what is interesting, not necessarily the Jewish aspect (because it could be that the religious beliefs they are hiding are in fact, not Jewish, but occult/kabbalistic beliefs, hence the need for secrecy).
And yes, it perfectly explains the current situation, with Saudi Arabia and Israel running American foreign policy. The two are in bed together. City of London, Wall St, (Frankfurt + Basel as more minor, but still important outposts for banking), Israel and Saudi Arabia. The Unholy Alliance.
They cultishly believe, at the super elite levels, that they are descended from the planet’s earliest inhabitants, hybrid Gods so to speak.
The emphasis on bloodlines is about preserving this fable and their position.
Their resultant psychopathy is a testament to how poorly this genetic experiment is unfolding.
Saudi's benefit from the 1974 Kissinger agreement. Saudi's get front line military gear, they get Uncle Sam's Fith Fleet, stationed in Bahrain. This military cover insures transhipment of oil.
Saudi Wahabbists, who came into power in a coup, got sanctioned by the U.S. as being a legitimate government. OPEC cartel (cartels are monopolies) was allowed to come into existence.
Western engineers and technicians continued to help these former backward bedouin people engage in complexity, a complexity normally beyond their ability.
Uncle Sam benefits from deal in that oil is priced in dollars.
The most important part of deal is what is not visible. Namely: Petrodollars are to recycle into Western markets, especially wall street. Excess petrodollars also recycle into Western Banks. Note that there is no strong Saudi Bank holding debts on the world!
Banksters, many (most) of whom were Jewish, maneuvered U.S. former distributed banking system into one that was centralized. All reserves of money are controlled by New York Fed. Note that FED is located in wall street.
This centralization is the land of OZ, where all money vectors. The Jewish angle must be understood, as their invention of private credit jumped from Amersterdam, to London (1694) and finally usurped America in 1912, especially with election of Woodrow Wilson. Wilson was controlled by his Jewish handler Colonel House. The election was rigged by bribe money out of wall street banks, especially Morgan interests, which in turn were majority owned by a Rothschild city bank.
So, it is this nexus of money power, wall street, American military industrial complex, and Saudi oil that makes up much of the Western Dynamic...this dynamic has a very strong Jewish component that cannot be dismissed. This component resides in credit issuance and control.
Russia has kicked out most of its Jewish Oligarchs, especially those that tried to take over during Yeltsin years. Actually rank and file Jews self deported as soon as Communism fell. The former oppressors were afraid of the now freed opressed, and fled with their booty.
Israel is finding common cause with Saudi, especially with ISIS.
Recent Western agreement with Iran, brokered by Putin, may be one reason why Saudi is holding talks. Kissinger-Saudi status quo has its foundations shaking, but foundation hasn't broken yet.
Private Western money powers are still ensconsed in their citadels, and still in control of credit creation and issue.
Saudi's might not be the brightest bulbs on the tree, but they know where their bread is buttered. F$$king Morons - No. Under $$$ money power control - yes.
The only thing would add to that is that the NY FED is joined at hip to the BIS. Former Goldmanite, the William Dudley sits at the top of both.
"In 2012, Mr. Dudley was appointed chairman of the Committee on the Global Financial System of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS). Previously, Mr. Dudley served as chairman of the former Committee on Payment and Settlement Systems of the BIS from 2009 to 2012. He is a member of the board of directors of the BIS and chairman of the Economic Club of New York."
http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/orgchart/dudley.html
Agreed. Yemen was on the PNAC list. Another checkmark.
Add total control over the media, the use of memes which are pushed via media, legislation and (approved) social activism, including multiculturaism, LGBT, slef radicalisation, lone wolf, Russian bogeymen, false flags / Hegelian Dialectic, Sutton describes this in detail.
You cannot hear a thing -- he didn't make even a tiny sound to be misinterpreted. It's impossible to say by reading his lips what he said. Given that he speaks several languages fluently you don't even know where to begin. He could have been also speaking to himself regarding SMS he just checked in whatever language it was. It's Ukranian TV news -- they haven't seen Russian klingons flying in on pterodaktyls lately so they start hearing Lavrov swear.
I think Lavrov is a moron trying to talk sense with a government which is at the top of beheaded list chart.
I do not think Russia's interests are best explained by the claim
Russia wants to keep the "strongman Assad in power."
Rather:
Russia wants to guarantee keeping its naval base in Syria. That also means protecting the people in the remaining Assad-controlled area from the US/Saudi proxy cannibals. Russia does not want another failed state (like Libya and Ukraine) to result.
However, Russia's goals do not mesh with how jihadist diversion is used by the Saudi Sheikhdom to retain power. Nor does it mesh with Israeli expansionist goals. Nor does it mesh with the US-PNAC goal to "neutralize" (not in a good way) the Mideast and Iran in order to better 'full-spectrum' dominate Russia and China.
bad fox paws....open mics can start wars...or ruin careers..
"bad fox paws....open mics can start wars...or ruin careers.."
Not necesarily. Actually, they may enhance careers, vide Vicky 'fuck E.U.' Nuland.
Certainly Washington is very choosy in selecting its friends. Why the American people, who have fought the British corrupt and barbaric, have ended being the same?
Everyone knows that both the CIA and their Saudi Intelligence henchmen were behind 911.For anybody in the States to be backing these morons in Saudi Arabia is criminal.
They were too stupid to pull that off. 911 was CIA/Mossad job.
Check closely. He had pulled out his cel phone, was reading it, and the comment was clearly directed at something he had seen.
I'll see your Trump and raise you a Lavrov.
American billionaires, the politicians they own and the foreign governments they own will take us to WWIII and Lavrov knows it.
those dumb saudi's haven't a clue as to what 'Yemen', has in store for them.
It sounds like the new king hasn't changed the tune much after all. Still wonder why SA is doing huge nuclear energy deals etcetera with Russia, the US certainly can't be too pleased with that.
I think the long goal of the US in the middle east is to turn SA into USA, literally. A US controlled desert which may or may not still have profitable resources. A slave colony(among many).
It's all insane. The Saudis have to know what's in store for them eventually. Or maybe they really are fuckng morons.
Just a couple of countries making decisions about who should rule a third country. Nothing offensive about that at all. The citizens of the third country should, in fact, be happy someone is making the decision for them. All hail the NWO!
I dunno. I thought he said Putin wants to convert.
In the sewer that is regional and international politics, Saudi is at the bottom of that sewer. The sooner that regime is taken out and beheaded along with it's supporters the better.
He said something like "Blya... debili" (cannot write Cyrillic letters here for some reason), which translated means "fuck... morons", not "fucking morons". He probably meant whoever asked the question he was answering to.
Just what the world needs - another failed state loaded with radical Islamic inhuman shit-heads bent on controlling the Middle East.
I agree with Lavrov...the Saudis are a big part of the problem, the opposite of a solution. They're morons.
Will be interesting to see if Russia makes a stand in Syria or lets it go the way of Libya, et al. Both Russia and China are caught here with their pants down, having to deal with financial/economic messes at home. Maybe Syria will be yet another checkmark in the U.S. column labelled "Regime Change", with a subnote that says - "We chaossed some [more] people".
Then maybe Russia-China will finally get their act together and do something instead of blowing a lot of hot air all the time.
Anybody who thinks that the Saudis are looking for a 'new protector' because they are courting Moscow with their check book open and their greasy schlong hanging out are sadly mistaken.
They are same know-it-alls who think Hanoi is now ready to chose the US, who perpetrated chemical warfare aginst them, over the Russians, who helped Vietnam defeat the American invaders.
Ditto the Cubans. Like Havana is going to show its preference for Washington over Moscow. For a few freshly printed greenbacks.
My own opinion is that the Saudis are negotiating with Russia to obtain Iskander missiles so that the brain dead American military can reverse engineer them and figure out a way to subdue them.
Good theory.
I recall Ghaddaffi calling King of Saudi a 'fucking monkey'' at an Arab League summit. It didn't go over well with the King.
He got ass raped and killed for it. Or was it that he didn't have a central bank, or he wanted to trade oil for gold only?
Or he gave up his nukes?