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Obamanomics - Union Pacific Cuts 100s Of Jobs On Coal Shipments Collapse

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There will be more Americans tonight newly questioning President Obama's Clean Power Plan, as NBCNews reports, Union Pacific will cut hundreds of management jobs as the amount of coal shipped by railroads continues to plunge.

Coal carloads down YoY 25 weeks in a row...

 

As NBCNews reports,

 The Omaha company reported late last month that coal volume dropped 26 percent in its most recent quarter and said it believed that demand for coal would remain weak for the rest of the year.

 

Union Pacific spokesman Aaron Hunt said Thursday that the cutbacks were job eliminations, not just temporary layoffs. He wouldn't confirm a specific number or say where the cuts would fall in the coming months.

 

The company says severance packages will be available for some who will lose their jobs.

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Fri, 08/14/2015 - 13:55 | 6426642 wrs1
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But this site loves coal..........

 

LOLFLOL

 

What a bunch of bitter peak oilers.  Who cares about a bunch of useless middle management in the railroads?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:10 | 6426684 hedgeless_horseman
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Union Pacific Cuts 100s Of Jobs On Coal Shipments Collapse

What will we do with all of those out of work horses?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:17 | 6426724 Mercury
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Best version of that song

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:21 | 6426740 Sudden Debt
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Once a company cuts in management positions it goes in survival mode and will die if it can't turn the tide.

Averafe employees think every product is sold by itself and can't understand what strategies are and you need the right people to apply them.

But if you work for a company that cuts in management or marketing, start looking for a job yourself as fast as possible. Most don't and didn't see it comming when they also get fired but that's mostly because their world is a bit to small to understand.

You don't just need to produce a product, you need to sell and market it, and that's way more important than the production itself because that's the easiest way to outsource. And that's why so many jobs went to china in the first place.

So useless management... not so much, even if you don't like them they secure your job.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:41 | 6427356 object_orient
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The UP managers will still have work. Most are promoted from operations and will just reestablish their union seniority, go back to running trains. The newest hires will ultimately be the ones to lose their jobs.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:35 | 6426645 Chuck Knoblauch
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Buy some brown face paint.

Learn a few words of Spanish.

Sneak into Mexico and re-cross the border as a victim of white imperialism.

Plenty of free stuff at Club Illegal.

If the Mexican federales catch you, you're going to prison.

No free tacos for you.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:23 | 6426649 Mercury
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That's why socialist transfer payments (from you to them) are built into the EPA's Clean Power Plan.

To review: using the excuse of reducing carbon in the atmosphere (of which there is 0 aside from the <1/2% of the atmosphere that is composed of CO2) the government will grow bigger and another layer of wealth transfer payments will be imposed on anyone who uses energy but isn't poor enough to qualify for another frees shit program.

Remember, all life forms on Earth are carbon based and CO2 (aka plant food) is critical to photosynthesis. Oh, and there was never a time when the climate wasn't changing.

"FASCISM WE MUST BECAUSE SCIENCE WE TRUST"

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:37 | 6426795 Billy the Poet
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all life forms on Earth are carbon based

 

We can reduce our carbon footprint by shooting more Cecils.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:56 | 6427175 I Eat Your Dingos
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Obama - You didn't DESTROY it on your own.

All hail the Obama the CO2exhaler-in-Chief.

Obama must tax exhaled air because of biological functions of respiration is dangerous to nature.

And somehow CO2 is not a coolant under psuedo climate science fascism which helps with the BS theory of greenhouse effect.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 13:57 | 6426655 KnuckleDragger-X
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But dear uncle Warren's choo-choo's might be affected......

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 13:59 | 6426666 Chuck Knoblauch
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Warren's choo choo distributes heroine and cocaine more than coal.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:18 | 6426729 greyghost
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mr. buffet paycheck just went up. welcome to vulture business usa

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:08 | 6426696 spooz
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No worries, Warren will save money with the thousands (not hundreds like the UP cuts) he is laying off as a result of his Kraft Heinz merger.  Capitalism, folks!  Cut out the deadwood!

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:12 | 6426810 Billy the Poet
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When socialism cuts out the dead wood millions upon millions are starved, shot and exiled. That's why it's better than evil capitalism in which occasionally some individuals have to find new jobs.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:35 | 6427057 spooz
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Your idea of socialism is not mine.  I don't see that happening in Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, Norway, Ireland, New Zealand or Belgium. Even Germany, which is not considered socialist, uses taxes to fund an extensive social welfare and health care system.  Most economies, like ours, are mixed.  Trying to paint socialism as evil is pure propaganda, in the service of the greedy globalist .01%, who want to take everything and contribute nothing to a sustainable sovereign economy. 

Just giving the suggestion that people need to "find a new job" is ignoring reality.  As inequality continues to grow and all the wealth is suctioned up by the .01%, living wage jobs disappear and the labor participation rate of adults in their prime working years continues to plummet.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:42 | 6427095 Billy the Poet
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I make about $1200 per month and pay my own bills. I live next to county housing where several men and lots of women hang around all day chatting and visiting while enjoying free or subsidized living quarters, food and medicine. Trying to paint me as a member of the evil .01% is pure propaganda. Enjoy your stolen goodies while you can because the rest of us aren't going to put up with this for much longer. That's when your helpful socialist masters will have to find somewhere else to put you.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:58 | 6427186 Heywood Jahblohmee
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I make 1200 a WEEK in pensions because I WORKED for a living. 

Now I see why you hate solar.  You can barely afford coal.

 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:24 | 6427295 Billy the Poet
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I used to make a bit more that $1200 per week but I have shrugged in opposition to the warfare-welfare state. You may continue to pay for the murder and enslavement of your fellow man. I prefer to live with no frills and a clear conscience.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:38 | 6427340 jerry_theking_lawler
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So, you are saying your a broke ass....plus, living like this will not CHANGE anything. To escape the system you must withdraw completely our renouce your citizenship and move. Otherwise, your .gov is making decisions in your name, regardless.....

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:49 | 6427379 Billy the Poet
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No, I'm saying that your fixation on my ass calls your sexuality into question.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:37 | 6427513 falconflight
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Apparently he made choices in life that boot lickers like you couldn't even contemplate in your fascist world.  Fck you 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:55 | 6427380 spooz
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If you make $14,400 a year, you are poor and pay very little in taxes (almost all of which go to your future medicare and social security benefits) and also qualify for SNAP and Medicaid.  If you are stupid enough not to take advantage of the safety net our government provides for the poor, that is no excuse for denying others that option. Apparently you get some sort of satisfaction from playing pious and supporting the interests of the 1%, but don't expect the rest of those in your situtation to join you.

 Only families with children get subsidies on housing, and most find that raising a child is more exensive than any assistance they get, so it really doesn't pay to have kids. 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:58 | 6427402 Billy the Poet
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pay very little in taxes

 

Property taxes to county, municipality and school district are a huge bite out of my income.

 

qualify for SNAP and Medicaid

 

I likely do but I prefer to pay for my own medical insurance despite the fact that I'm now paying more than when Obamacare passed with significantly less coverage. There are still a few of us self reliant individuals left.

 

Only families with children get subsidies on housing

That simply isn't true.  County housing is subsidized and most tenants in the six story building next door do not have children.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:16 | 6427436 spooz
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High property taxes provide for underfunded educational systems. It would be best if there was more federal support for education, but under the circumstances you might consider moving to somewhere with a lower tax rate funding less services. You don't get low taxes AND more services in our capitalist economy.

Besides families with children, the other categories that qualify for low income housing are the elderly and the disabled. If your HUD offers housing for other low income families, you surely qualify.

http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/HUD?src=/topics/rental_assistance/phprog

As I said, go ahead and be pious and poor.  So much satisfaction in being a martyr, right? Doesn't mean everybody else has to suffer along with you.

 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:30 | 6427468 Billy the Poet
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High property taxes provide for underfunded educational systems.

 

Is that why they built a huge sports arena with tens of thousands of watts of lighting blazing every night? Is that why they feed students two out of three meals per day? Is that why they have after school programs in which the underprivileged kids get to play with a Wii? Is that why my young cousin who just graduated will have to take remedial courses on her entry to community college?

 

You don't get low taxes AND more services in our capitalist economy.

I don't use the school's sports stadium or anything else they spend money on so according to you I'm due a refund.

 

categories that qualify for low income housing are the elderly and the disabled.

 

Disabled is as disabled does. How can someone spend the entire day walking up and down the streets or sitting on the patio chatting with friends (or in one case doing heroin and casing the neighborhood for petty crime opportunities) and not have the physical ability to hold a job?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:52 | 6427553 spooz
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Not all school districts are so extravagent.  Those with the money choose to pay high property taxes to support that stuff.  Your only choice, living in that kind of school district, is to move. You make a choice when you buy a home in a community with high property taxes.

Don't know about your heroin user example, a family is made up of all kinds of individuals and only one family member needs to be disabled.  You are making assumptions based on what you see, maybe there is more to the story that you can't see. In any case, drug users are supposed to be prohibited from getting public housing assistance. 

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2004/usa1104/8.htm

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 18:04 | 6427585 Billy the Poet
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In any case, drug users are supposed to be prohibited from getting public housing assistance.

 

That's the beauty of government. It's supposed to be helpful but it isn't despite the fact that it takes half your money. The cops actually broke down heroin boy's door and took him away. He was back in two weeks.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:40 | 6427525 falconflight
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Someday, and I hope I'm still alive to witness it, and Participate...you'll be rendered for your BTU value and thereby 'giving back' and "paying forward."  I despise your existence

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:53 | 6427558 spooz
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Back atcha. But don't be surprised in "the proletariat" wins out in the end, if history repeats itself.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 18:08 | 6427593 Billy the Poet
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You can cheer for the proletariat if you like. I'll keep rooting for the free man.

 

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”  -- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 18:14 | 6427611 spooz
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So, I don't think we're in danger of a Communist takeover.  I still believe that democracy will find a way out of this, and allow for a more socialist form of government which provides a better safety net, like universal health care and a basic income guarantee if the jobs never materialize. Unfortunately, it will probably take awhile longer before enough people see the growing inequality as unsustainable.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 19:01 | 6427712 Billy the Poet
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Democracy is a big part of the problem. How could it possibly be better to give up one's sole right to self determination for a one in 300 millionth say in what everybody will be forced to do? Not that anyone ever asked me. It's just assumed that I've accepted this very bad deal.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:28 | 6427486 falconflight
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 Only families with children get subsidies on housing, and most find that raising a child is more exensive than any assistance they get, so it really doesn't pay to have kids. 

 

You fatuous gov't jizz sucker.  You don't know wtf you're talking about.  Housing Choice Vouchers (Section 8), as well as Property Based Benefits are not restricted to "families with children."  Fucking BrainStem kuntlip.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:33 | 6427498 Billy the Poet
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He should look out my window any fair day of the week. Or come by at night and hear the howling. It wasn't this way when I moved in, the building was reserved for retirees who were nice folks. Now there's just a few left and they stay locked in their apartments out of fear.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 18:08 | 6427595 spooz
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So, not based on families with children, but in my area preference is given for those families, along with elderly and disabled. Although that is not true in all areas, where there are housing shortages, most have similar preferences.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:14 | 6427258 Ms No
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Socialism tends to start out well enough it's in the later stages that it gets ugly.  The US has socialist elements too and we have yet to pay for it. 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:40 | 6427351 spooz
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The same thing could be said about capitalism.  Finding the right mix is the problem.  With money having so much influence in our political system these days, "capitalism" seems to be winning, as more and more people are losing economic ground and becoming disenfranchised with the lesser of two evils choices we're given at the polls.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:15 | 6427440 Billy the Poet
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Yeah, the balance between free choice and being cared for by the kindly elite is a tough one.

It's tough for the elite as well. They've got to keep enough people working to maintain the availability of goods and services without tipping off the workers that they could just get fat or depressed and get free stuff too.

Then there's the cost of bureaucracy and cronyism. Can't have a kindly elite without those fellow travelers. And that's the funniest part. By promoting socialism, it's you that shills for the elite, not me.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:34 | 6427472 spooz
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The elite don't have it so tough.  They can hire a slew of lawyers to make sure they don't pay their fair share to keep a sustainable economy running. 

http://inequality.org/5-tax-secrets-americas-billionaires/

And with increased outsourcing and automation, maintaining the availability of goods and services requires less and less labor, so workers become increasingly marginalized.

The only reason our "bureaucracy" isn't working is because our bought and paid for legislature makes sure it serves the purposes of its wealthy benefactors. Like creating a crony capitalist healthcare system that enriches corporate health care instead of offering Medicare for All.

So, will you still be a martyr when it comes time to collect social security and use medicare or will you wear your poverty like a badge even in old age?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:36 | 6427509 Billy the Poet
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The elite don't have it so tough.  They can hire a slew of lawyers to make sure they don't pay their fair share to keep a sustainable economy running.

 

Then why do you insist that you (and everyone else) must be ruled over by that same elite class supposedly for our own good?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:40 | 6427523 spooz
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I don't.  I support Bernie Sanders, who wants to get money out of politics.  He is one of the poorest members of congress, and has both "talked the talk" and "walked the walk" for his entire career.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/money-in-politics/

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 18:16 | 6427563 Billy the Poet
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I don't.  I support Bernie Sanders, who wants to get money out of politics.

 

Political donations are freely given or not given. That's not what I'm talking about.

You support the elite when you demand that they create massive bureaucracies in order to under-educate the children, mistreat the sick, pollute the waterways, destroy small business, gun down unarmed suspects and bomb foreigners for their freedom. All of these things come at an involuntary cost to productive individuals.

 

Forget Sanders and give a listen to a New Englander who has much better credentials:

 

"I HEARTILY ACCEPT the motto, — "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, — "That government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have.

Government never of itself furthered any enterprise, but by the alacrity with which it got out of its way. It does not keep the country free. It does not settle the West. It does not educate. The character inherent in the American people has done all that has been accomplished; and it would have done somewhat more, if the government had not sometimes got in its way." -- Henry David Thoreau

 

 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:35 | 6427504 falconflight
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It's success and Failure is directly proportionate to the level of capital formation and free enterprise present, and in the case of the USSR and China, it showed just how relative said socialism competed the various mixed economies of the West.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 18:17 | 6427628 InflammatoryResponse
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you're ignoring the fact that all of those countries were able to allocate funds to the things they're spending money on because the USA, defended them innovated the medical technology they get at a discount because they force our companies to sell at a lower price.

 

when your overhead is much lower because somebody else is footing the bill, that frees up all sorts of cash.

 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 13:57 | 6426658 wmbz
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 "coal volume dropped 26 percent in its most recent quarter and said it believed that demand for coal would remain weak for the rest of the year".

For the rest of the year?  Well I am certain Obozo has a plan for you... Check in to it!

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 13:58 | 6426660 Lin S
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Owebomba the Destroyer

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:46 | 6427123 CheapBastard
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McDonald’s said in April that it planned to close about 700 underperforming restaurants worldwide this year. In the U.S., the closures will involve both company-owned stores and franchise locations.

 

For the first time since at least 1970, McDonald’s will close more U.S. restaurants in 2015 than it will open.

 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/06/19/mcdonald_s_to_shrink_u_s_...

 

 

"Yes we can!"

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:58 | 6427187 I Eat Your Dingos
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In a recent study, Obama has been found to be an excellent destroyer than creator because he is big government

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 13:59 | 6426661 wisefool
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Coal, wood and oil have been burning on planet earth since there has been a planet earth. Millions of years of evolution around it.

As far as jobs, I heard about a sweet project in Japan, that is going to take 50 years. A young person could build a whole future on that. Cleaning up energy. If it works out, we will reach a clean energy utopia. If it doesn't, basically everyone and everything dies. And it will be much slower and more painful than that man in the cartoon is going to get it.

I old and elite, so am just going to learn how to collect taxes, to pay for popcorn. /sarc

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 13:58 | 6426664 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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but not cutting CEO pay, avg UP emplyee was like $107K, from yesterdays pay chart and how much did CEO pull,push or shove?

 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:04 | 6426683 MSimon
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Suppose it is 100 jobs. The CEO could take a million more dollars and the company would still profit. Nicely.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:06 | 6426693 JailBank
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Hold on. That CEO makes the tough choices nobody else on Earth could make.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:44 | 6426826 Billy the Poet
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Not to mention the fact that he wasn't even democratically elected to his job. He was hired by the company's owners. How barbaric!

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:11 | 6427237 Sturm und Drang
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GASP! How dare they!

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 13:59 | 6426667 Jus7tme
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In other news, tens of thousands of hospital workers lost their jobs around 1984, 1989 and 1998 because of various enactments of laws making airbags and passive restraint systems mandatory in new cars.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:43 | 6426811 Central Bankster
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In your defense, you are a product of state education.  It's not your fault.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:47 | 6426843 Billy the Poet
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Forgive him, he's carbon based.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:12 | 6427244 Kickaha
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What, no compassion for personal injury lawyers?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:00 | 6426672 Heywood Jahblohmee
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I am envious of my neighbour.  He went all solar over 2 years ago.  plus he has electric car and electric scooters. 

He doesn't care about transporting coal.   He is worried the sun might stop shining.   LOL

Actually even here in Northern Europe, the newer cells put out quite a bit even on  cloudy days.

 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:12 | 6426709 Rock On Roger
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The boy in dutch land gets no sun in 2015?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:14 | 6426714 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Sorry we don't speak Gibberish here.  Could you try English?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:01 | 6426922 Bunghole
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I think he's pointing out the fact you are hiding behind your old moniker because you drew the ire of many here with your DutchBoy2015 venom.

I can point to posts by the both of you that link to a Flicker account with pics of you in your gay liitle flight suit.

Prove me wrong sock puppet.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:03 | 6426933 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Who cares?  Go polish your jack boots you fucking goddam Nazi Americunt asswipe.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:04 | 6426945 Bunghole
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Upvoting yourself too, old man?

Go empty your colostomy bag.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:05 | 6426950 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Go suck a dick, closet boy.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:11 | 6427238 Kickaha
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It would have saved you time and us space if you had just told him to suck a bag of dicks.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:05 | 6426951 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Go suck a dick, closet boy.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:05 | 6426952 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Go suck a dick, closet boy.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:05 | 6426946 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Gay flight suit?  Don't tell us about your closet cocksucking fantasties.  You can come out of the closet now,  

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:05 | 6426947 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Gay flight suit?  Don't tell us about your closet cocksucking fantasties.  You can come out of the closet now,  

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:07 | 6426963 Bunghole
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You're stuttering old man.

Time for another Viagara?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:15 | 6426718 Tsar Pointless
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But solar energy creates soot, dirtying our air. It also laeds to black lung and other maladies in the people who work to extract it. Runoff from solar mines also poisons the dirt and water for hundreds of miles around the site.

Oh, wait - that's coal. My bad.

I'm envious of your neighbour, too.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:23 | 6426745 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Coal is cheap to transport.  UNLIKE solar which has to trave 186,000 miles to get to your roof.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:38 | 6426798 crazybob369
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Has to travel 93,000,000 miles to get to your roof.

 

There. Fixed it for you.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:39 | 6426805 Heywood Jahblohmee
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LOL,thanks..   

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:53 | 6426857 Billy the Poet
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The speed at which the light travels is 186,282 mps.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:23 | 6426746 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Coal is cheap to transport.  UNLIKE solar which has to trave 186,000 miles to get to your roof.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:02 | 6427202 Sturm und Drang
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LOL

[note the bobble heads in agreement...]

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:26 | 6426760 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Neighbour is long on lithium

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:10 | 6426970 Bunghole
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Sounds like your long on fluoride.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:13 | 6426982 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Just to show how goddam stupid you are,  I do NOT have a Flicker account,  ASSHOLE!!!  Go upstais, you cunt momma says  'milk and cookies for you''.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:16 | 6427266 Bunghole
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Flicker/Dropbox.  

220/221.

It's all the same shit for narcisictic fucks like yourself.

Now go put on your flight suit and get back to the Ramada bar trolling for hookers with STDs

 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:23 | 6427291 Heywood Jahblohmee
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I noticed you like sniffing and licking my asshole.   Careful, fucktard, I had chili for supper.  But then again you probably love eating shit also.  

 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:13 | 6426983 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Just to show how goddam stupid you are,  I do NOT have a Flicker account,  ASSHOLE!!!  Go upstais, you cunt momma says  'milk and cookies for you''.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:13 | 6426984 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Just to show how goddam stupid you are,  I do NOT have a Flicker account,  ASSHOLE!!!  Go upstais, you cunt momma says  'milk and cookies for you''.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:39 | 6426803 Miffed Microbio...
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Damn right. Stupid coal. We need to embrace Solar to reduce exposure to chemicals such as Arsenic, cadmium telluride, hexafluoroethane, lead, and polyvinyl fluoride... Oh wait

Miffed;-)

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:46 | 6426841 Central Bankster
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How much industrial waste was a bi-product during the production of your "green" solar power panels?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:49 | 6426862 Heywood Jahblohmee
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I don't know.  you tell me.   Should be interesting..   

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:50 | 6426865 Billy the Poet
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Unintended consequences? Pshaw!

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:54 | 6426890 Heywood Jahblohmee
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OH, yes, probably lots more than mining coal, transporting it (costing energy).

 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:20 | 6427015 Heywood Jahblohmee
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One thing you don't understand.  The carbon based people spend billions dissing solar so keep posting your links.

As I stated,  INDIVIDUALS,  are laughing.  

Some people spend all their lives dissing shit.

Others take ACTION and are profiting.

 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:32 | 6427054 Billy the Poet
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It's not the coal industry's fault that solar cell production requires toxic chemicals and other components with a negative environmental impact.

You seem to be missing the point that a free market in energy would maximize energy production while providing for environmental protection as many individuals see conservation as a benefit worth paying for. But when government interferes in the market and subsidizes one producers while hamstringing another the efficiency of the market is destroyed thereby sacrificing efficient energy and environmental concerns for the pleasure of the bureaucrats and their cronies.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:56 | 6427173 Heywood Jahblohmee
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You seem to have missed the point.  ONce your solar system is installed you can  forget about it.  

Plus like my neighbour he drives his car for FREE.

Never mind, I am talking to a thick as a brick wall.

Hope you and your one brain cell have a nice weekend.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:40 | 6427349 Billy the Poet
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I produce a net energy gain when driving my car because I'm always scavenging for firewood, coal and cardboard. That beats "FREE."

 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:56 | 6427176 Heywood Jahblohmee
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You seem to have missed the point.  ONce your solar system is installed you can  forget about it.  

Plus like my neighbour he drives his car for FREE.

Never mind, I am talking to a thick as a brick wall.

Hope you and your one brain cell have a nice weekend.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:17 | 6427455 falconflight
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Forgive them Lord for they  know not what they do...

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/14/us-spain-energy-idUSBRE97D0FX2...

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:56 | 6426897 UnicornSkittles
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Look at what goes into making photovoltaic cells.  Lots of mined ingredients (high purity silica sand is primary) and various chemicals.  If it's not fished or farmed it's probably mined. To take advantage of "free" solar energy there's a lot of "dirty" work involved. Carbon based fuels are what allowed us to get to the point of developing solar power. If the US doesn't take advantage of its natural resources, we will see the cost of electricity increase along with the cost of everything else that isn't in the official govt. inflation calculation.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:01 | 6426926 Heywood Jahblohmee
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oh, yes, so completely diss Solar power.   Individuals who are using it are laughing .  

Enjoy your coal. 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:10 | 6426971 Billy the Poet
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Coal is free to pick up off the railroad tracks and doing so is a pleasant way to spend an afternoon after a few beers and a swim in the river. In the winter the coal burns brightly in the stove. Quite enjoyable.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:12 | 6426678 Dr. Engali
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Now they can get an Obama college loan and get the best on-line edumacation money can't buy. Heck, they can even get a zero money down Camero with an Obama phone to track them as they go shopping at the official .gov welfare center known as Walmart to spend their SNAP. Merika! Fuck yeah!

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:20 | 6426734 de3de8
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Camaro

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:27 | 6426761 Dr. Engali
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Yeah, that too.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:06 | 6426692 Chuck Knoblauch
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Many illegals are living better than legals.

Only in progressive hell.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:20 | 6426735 Zymurguy
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All going according to plan.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:34 | 6426782 Mike Honcho
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Those union boys will vote straight ticket D again and again, the cult leaders say so.  Plus less jobs equals less CO2.  EPA can put them to work capping volcanos.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:38 | 6426799 Chuck Knoblauch
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I finally understand.

The elite: Buggs Bunny.

The middle class: Daffy Duck.

The remainder: Elmer Fudd.

Now life is easier to understand.

 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:47 | 6426845 clade7
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Debt slaves: That hound with the 20' chain around his neck Foghorn spanks on the ass with that board..

 

Lets go 'Chip and Dale' on these motherHubbards!, be as polite as we can be to members of our own stripe so to speak all the while outwitting Sylvester or some other sumbitch..

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:53 | 6426884 Billy the Poet
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Chip and Dale are now Cheryl and Diane.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:11 | 6426977 Chuck Knoblauch
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It's duck season for anyone with a job.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:13 | 6426986 Billy the Poet
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Rabbit season!

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:21 | 6427017 Chuck Knoblauch
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Fire!

That dog just cannot take it.

LOLOL...........

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:02 | 6426831 SSRI Junkie
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so while we kill jobs china marches forward

 

Coal, the most carbon-intensive of the fossil fuels, accounts for 70 percent of energy used in China today and is responsible for about three quarters of electricity generation. 

  • In just 5 years, from 2005 through 2009, China added the equivalent of the entire U.S. fleet of coal-fired power plants, or 510 new 600-megawatt coal plants.
  • From 2010 through 2013, it added half the coal generation of the entire U.S. again.
  • At the peak, from 2005 through 2011, China added roughly two 600-megawatt coal plants a week, for 7 straight years.  
  • And according to U.S. government projections, China will add yet another U.S. worth of coal plants over the next 10 years, or the equivalent of a new 600-megawatt plant every 10 days for 10 years.

 

http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs/chinas-growing-coal-use-is-worlds-gr...

 

gee thanks obola

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:44 | 6426832 Hangfire
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I tell you what, being a west coast guy I didn't really realize how these small east coast towns function until I hiked the Appalachian Trail last year.  From what I could gather (especially in the south) that the only good paying jobs in the small towns was to work as a coal miner or to work for the rail road which hauled lots of coal.  From Georgia to Maine with the exception of the small towns outside of NYC up into Connecticut, small town USA is dying a slow and painful death.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:00 | 6427412 Vlad the Inhaler
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I lost my job as a switchboard operator when a better technology came along.  Where's my pity party?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 14:59 | 6426911 Heywood Jahblohmee
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I always like to read the crazy comments after posting this video.

Most people don't even bother to watch the whole thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr-grdspEWQ

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:32 | 6427055 Rock On Roger
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I've got a solar panel too. One mile long and one half mile wide. It gathers solar energy and turns it into energy for my family and I.

 

Pretty crazy, eh?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:52 | 6427158 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Sure you do.   is that on your 8x40 trailer, Jethro?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:59 | 6427188 Rock On Roger
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Who is Jethro?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:20 | 6427274 Heywood Jahblohmee
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Your Boyfriend, the one you recently married.  so your farm feeds you and him?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:15 | 6427262 Sturm und Drang
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He gotcha man. Think chlorophyll, not silicon.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:05 | 6426949 MSimon
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The collapse of coal is caused by fracking. If nat'l gas wasn't so cheap....

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:53 | 6427393 Ms No
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It's only cheap for now and we all know that fracked gas isn't exactly clean so what's the motive here?  The stated reserves, decline rates and everything else are being hidden in a lot of ways in the US and the SCC has changed rules to allow creative accounting.  If you want to see where things are headed look into the Barnette Shale.

It's not just the US either.  Around 2004 Exxon booked almost all of it's "proven" gas reserves on contracts they had out of Quatars North Field which according to the EIA holds one of the best gas reserves left.  There are only two platforms out there that I know of and Conoco phillips hit two dry holes there in 2005 and the government responded by halting development for 5 years.

They are after coal for a reason and it is going to be a shitstorm.... when, who knows. 

 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:59 | 6427410 falconflight
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Part of the reason, which is directly tied to NGO/Gov't actions.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:47 | 6427543 Arnold
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The collapse of coal is the direct result of EPA regulation of powerplants to standards that they cannot meet.

 

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-...

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:24 | 6427026 dobermangang
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Things are so bad in the Obama economy, you probably won't even get a lump of coal in your stocking this year.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:46 | 6427118 SelfGov
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The economy must shrink for thermodynamic reasons.

It is better to shrink here than in other places.

Fuck fossil fuels.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 15:54 | 6427166 Billy the Poet
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You used fossil fuels in order to post "Fuck fossil fuels." 

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:58 | 6427407 falconflight
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BrainStem activated

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:04 | 6427208 Sturm und Drang
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Wait - so now what do we put in the Christmas stockings?

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:44 | 6427364 Billy the Poet
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A copy of Dreams from My Father but only for children who have been exceedingly bad.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 16:33 | 6427330 rsnoble
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Clean bs, or a recession being called a recovery?  Shipments have been this low many times before, look at the 2009 area.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 17:20 | 6427452 NorthernPike
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I am very sorry for the UP people who will be losing their jobs and hope they do not have to rely on the Railroad Unemployment system which I believe still pays $25/day.

Having worked many years in the construciton and maintainence side of the Railroad business there has always been an ebb and flow of commodiites that are hot then not Potash is a great example as is Coal.

My concern for the people in these positions is that even if things turn around there will not likely be a big hire back as people in these roles are likely to be replaced with new infomation systems.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 18:15 | 6427622 VWAndy
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We own the carbon cycle. The rest is all dogma.

Fri, 08/14/2015 - 23:05 | 6428198 RMolineaux
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Disappointing to see that, in the same day, ZH points out China's air polution problems, but fields a sympathetic item about coal shippers losing their jobs in the US.  Lets have some consistency here !

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