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Air Farce 1: Trump's 757 En Route To Iowa
"This is exactly what fairgoers want, to meet Donald Trump. That is what they’ll get."
That’s a quote from Chuck Laudner, Trump’s Iowa campaign strategist who spoke to The Hill about the brazen billionaire’s planned visit to the Iowa State Fair on Saturday.
The popular event (which draws crowds of over 100,000 on sunny weekend days) will feature soapbox speeches from all major candidates except Trump, Rand Paul, and Hillary Clinton, who will nevertheless make an appearance with retired Iowa Senator Tom Harkin.
The reason they’ll be no stump from Trump (so to speak) is that the GOP frontrunner is feuding with the Des Moines Register, which sponsors the Presidential Soapbox. Back in July, the Register advised Trump to "pull the plug on his bloviating side show." As you can imagine, that did not go over well.
"The Des Moines Register doesn’t even think he should be a candidate, why should he step on their stage,"Laudner asked.
But make no mistake, Trump really doesn’t need the Des Moines Register to provide him with a stage because he will effectively make the entire site a stage when he lands in the middle of the fair in a private helicopter on Saturday. Here’s The Hill:
Trump will touch down in Des Moines in his private helicopter, the latest grand gesture by the real estate magnate who has been climbing the polls across the nation and in the Hawkeye State. Two new polls from Suffolk University and CNN/ORC have him at the top of the crowded GOP field in Iowa, knocking Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker out of the top spot.
Chuck Laudner, Trump’s Iowa strategist, told The Hill the plan is to hold a press conference after the chopper lands to quell the media frenzy and then let Trump walk around the fairgrounds.
“He’s not doing any standalone events, he’ll just be at the fair wading into the crowds. He wants to be with people and we are in no hurry,” he said, noting that staff will stay for the remaining eight days of the fair to meet with potential supporters.
Initially, Trump had planned to give children free rides in the chopper, but that idea was nixed by fair officials. Undeterred, Trump secured access to a nearby parking lot where kids of all ages will get to fulfill their lifelong dream of flying over Iowa in a 12-seat Sikorsky. Here's CNN:
he Iowa State Fair won't allow Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump to give kids free rides on his helicopter on fairgrounds, but the real estate developer has secured a nearby location.
The helicopter will take off from a parking lot outside the fair in Des Moines, campaign state chairman Chuck Laudner told CNN on Friday, adding that Trump may hop on a few rides as well.
CNN previously reported that the Sikorsky is one of three that he owns, seats 12 people comfortably, including the pilot.
Trump will arrive in the $7 million helicopter before holding a press event. Despite Trump's previous public announcement, his campaign expressed safety concerns about the event becoming so well attended that landing the aircraft could be a challenge.
The helicopter has already arrived in the area. It took three refueling stops to get it here and flew at an altitude of 2400 feet across the county, according to a source familiar with the travel plans.
Trump, however, did not take the helicopter to Iowa. Instead, he'll be flying Trump Air via a recently-purchased 757, which was scheduled to depart LaGuardia Saturday morning at 8:58 and should land in Iowa at around 10 local time.
The jet is a "perfect fit" for a national campaign NYC Aviation says, adding that "this particular aircraft was formerly owned by fellow billionaire Paul Allen, the Microsoft co-founder and aviation buff extraordinaire. It already had a VIP interior, though it is likely that Trump would have had it gutted and customized to his specs no matter how nice it might have been."
And for those wondering what it looks like when Trump touches down, we'll leave you with the following enduring image:
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Is the ABC news arm of ZeroHedge pushing these Trump bashing hit pieces?
Nice picture of a 727 anyway
and just wait for it...the shit-bag, scum who call themselves "environmentalists" yet who don't give a fuck about all the private jetting around that anybody on the so-called "Left" side does will all of a sudden crawl out from under their slimy rocks to bitch about Trump having a private jet and how it's "so hurtful to the environment", blah blah blah.
I'm voting for Jack
http://jackball.com/jackinthebox/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/jackball.png
For me, I simply don't believe in billionaires.
It's also worth considering that Trump is the MSM's Briar Rabbit, "Oh, please don't elect Donald, he's so inimical to our billionaire interests," NOT.
Our owners are fairly bright. When people were fed up with W, we got "the black President" already warming up in the bullpen. Hope and change, he's black, he understands, etc., bullshit.
Agree.....
Can someone point me again to that recent ZH article on Trump and Stone, detailing their work as Republican bagmen/dirty tricksters?
Amerikan presidential politics are TPTB version of "find the pea under the shell"...cept there's no friggin pea
Googled and found this:
Behind The Scenes Of The Donald Trump - Roger Stone ShowZero Hedge - 2 days ago
Submitted by Mark Ames, and originally published on Pando,. It was just after liftoff on the ...
When I click the link, I get this:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-13/behind-scenes-donald-trump-roge...
Page Not Found Submitted by sacrilege on 09/23/2014 12:01 -0400Hey Donald, want to get elected? Try these magic words.
"I promise, I will END THE FED."
Thats all. Just a few magic words. Of course, if you are elected we will expect you to fulfill those campaign promises. Keep in mind, there will be those that show you the JFK assassination from a 'never before scene' vantage point, to discourage you from having such a thought.
Hey Donald, want to get elected? Try these magic words.
"I promise, I will END THE FED."
And the other thing equally as important is to repeal the 16th amendment. I couldn't care how "flat" or "fair" a tax is, if it's direct taxation then it is immoral. Repealing the 16th amendment and abolishing the fed would go a long ways toward restoring individual freedom.
Hell, I'll settle for simply auditting the Fed. Oh, and Ft. Knox.
Simply auditing the Fed would not fix anything. Its charter needs to be revoked and the Fed abolished.
And you left out repeal of the Act of 1871.
I wish we had a better option than DT - unfortunately the better option would have to fund his/her own campaign to include massive publicity stunts - owning their own plane/helicoptor and landing them publicly in order to keep the sheep preoccupied from the MSM coverage of typical main stream dead beat politicians vying for sheeple attention.
If you want the same old stuff, thats ok. We have been electing bankster lackeys since I can remember. This at least seems to be an opportunity to elect someone with their own mind and agendas rather than the bought and paid for status quo chumps. This is different from Ron Paul in a sense that Trump does not require any outside funding and he is near the top as far as wealth is concerned. No need for him to beg you, me, or anyone else (banksters/oil) for funds - so the proensity for being a puppet goes down.
There are no absolutes anywhere - only probabilities. Trump is more probable to make decisions based on his own thinking than is a Bush, Cruz (ineligible candidate just like obama), Paul, Walker, any of the others except Carson. Carson is the only candidate that could be better than Trump - but he cannot self fund and provide the bread and circuses that our mind numb electorate needs to actually vote for someone.
Thats why I think Trump is our best shot at wresting at least part of our politbureau - oops I mean government - back from the banksters that control it.
i'm voting for bernie...
For The Benefit Of Those Still Remembering and Thinking... ??
Ok... Just REMEMBER a few Short months ago...
It was EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA...EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA...EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA...EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... EBOLA... 24/7 - !!!
All Put out by all the MSMedia news engines... Run By Whom ??? - and then all of a sudden it was gone... EBOLA news was gone... POOF ! - No more EBOLA... but what was standing there instead... ISIS... the real story... and the continued bakanization of the Mid East countries for whose benefit ???
Who is it that runs barter town ???
and now TRUMP... you gotta love him for ripping the establishment a new one... but common... REMEMBER... The Repubs would NOT even let legitimate Ron Paul delagates sit down to vote at their last ReThug convention... love him or hate him the refreshing TRUMP is going nowhere...!
I predict he will be blown out of the water by some rediculous scandal down the road that will covered by the MSM engines 24/7... or worse... But one way or another... POOF... TRUMP will be gone... and who will be standing there... Hillary Bush vs Jeb Clinton... as always... with Jeb Clinton looking like he will slide into office since he loves the NeoCon PNAC protocols and he answers to MasterBlaster.
TRUMP... is a rich, satarical and refreshing DIVERSION... and POOF... he will be gone... like EBOLA went POOF... and we all will be left with is a NON Election like we always are...
Ok... Cue sad music at this point...
Edgey...
Don't Cry for Me Jefferson... Its not like I didn't Dissent...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_idyN44Twc
We'll see. I am familiar with the R Paul delegate situation and the thug conventions. I think Trump can buy his way in if he wants. If Trump is real or not is yet to be seen.
Exactly, even his name gives the story away, he's just a 'trump' card, a useless diversion. Nice nazi colors and logo's on the plane though, a great clue on who's playing the trump card.
Exactly, even his name gives the story away, he's just a 'trump' card, a useless diversion. Nice nazi colors and logo's on the plane though, a great clue on who's playing the trump card.
"When I click the link, I get this: "bupkiss"
well, what the fuck is up with that?
I wondered the same, it was a hell of an article.
Here you go:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.zerohedg...
Here's google's cache for you. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QSGCT-eAYscJ:www.ze...
Isn't Mark Ames aka Jonny Chen the guy who worked in Moscow and harassed and raped Russian teenage girls?
Was he a Soros stooge when the zoligarchs controlled Russia pre-Putin? If this Mark Ames was a child rapist then he needs to go in a wood chipper.
I am not standing up for Stone or Trump but Ames sounds like someone who needs a beating with a baseball bat.
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-30718.html
Beat on the Brat - The Ramones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HUGeA2lur4
Beat on the brat
Beat on the brat
Beat on the brat with a baseball bat
I like Trump's candid nature and New York style. He is a doer and he would get a lot done that would indeed help America. His position on the MIC however troubles me a lot. And Israel too. They are two of the main control mechanisims in the US along with Big Pharma. Trump says he wants to repeal Obama Care and that would affect Big Pharma in a big way but there would be HUGE push back. The MIC issue is scary. We have the most expensive, massive and wasteful military complex in the world and if there ever was a line item to reduce it would be that IMO. But no, he wants more. My question is why? War is one of the most serious threats right now and he is waving the flag of loyalty to them at the worst possible time. Maybe he got a tap on the shoulder that no donation could compare to.
Bash away @ trump but...
1. Not a career corrupt politician miedras bought off & ignoring tax paying US citizens
2. Speaks openly about problems US citizen tax payers are concerned or angry about
3. Funding own campaign unlike bought & paid 4 career politicians like bush
4. Not part of an entitlement political dynasty family like bush & lyin g cheating corrupt AR trailer trash cunt-on
5. A US born, US citizen
He isn't bashing Trump. He is raising valid concerns about his views and policies on major issues.
Until Trump slams the FED, Wall St banksters and DC lobbyists like AIPAC, I have no reason to trust or support the man at all.
Trump a known democrat and Clinton supporter, or am I the only one that has been paying attention? Does anyone else think that this might all be a rouse simply to make the Republicants look like the idiots they are and thereby clear the decks for Hitlery! IDK, just MHO on this whole shit show! The fiasco that has become the USA will not end with an election! END THE FED!
fuck trump. I am bashing him. I watched him on fox news the other day (i know, i know), and whith his "how to deal with ISIS' plan, he says, in his own words, that we will surround them and take their oil...everything he says he wants to do WILL involve putting troops on the ground in Iraq again(syria as well, which will be another middle eastern country the US has invaded). I will not support anyone who believes in escalating that, which is exactly what trump will do.
What happened to the anti-war people here? have you all bought into the ISIS propaganda bullshit? trump isnt offering ANYTHING newcompared to other republicans, at all. The ONLY difference is that he says things others are scared say outloud and gets away with it. THATS ALL.
He is a carnival barker who is able, through is bombastic manner, to convince stupid and gullible people desperate for a hero/leader that he is somehow offering something new, something different, and all of yall falling for it. The comment section on here during the 2012 campaign was a lot better, this place is now overrun with neocons
Agreed, and I hope he does eventually sniff-out the Fed/Wall St./LobbyCulture.
But what's really interesting here is the position of the DMR... they think they have leverage because they are THE Iowa newspaper. It's laughable. Trump doesn't need them. He'll make the biggest splash and get the biggest headlines w/o the DMR, just watch.
A newspaper that still thinks it has "leverage"!?!!???! They'll be out of business in 10 years, max.
And it wouldn't shock me if Trump BUYS the DMR some day and fires the lot of them, just out of spite.
yea im wondering why ZH has become so schizophrenic on trump this month. they post pro-trump articles saying he is a great anti-establishment candidate and then they post this turd of a piece. WTF Tyler?
They give you multiple points of view.
As they should.
there ae multiple people who post as "tyler durden", they obviously have different opinions
sheep looking for some groupthink to hug eh?
The fact that the Republicans are fielding so many candidates, including Trump, tells me that they are not serious about winning this selection. After all, who wants to preside over the destruction of the US?
Its probably not Hillary either because she started the race too earlier.
Nope. They are fielding so many candidates to give the illusion of choice. There is really only one republican candidate - Bush. Trump is a side show. Clinton will "lose." And Bush will be the "great conqueror" with "a mandate" to pillage and destroy. Sickening but true.
tdag And this Bush is a Catholic.
not that there is anything wrong with that.
5 other Catholics are running as well, more than any other past presidential election
Giving kids rides in his helicopter...that is fucking awesome. Who does that? And for the fair grounds to shut that down is absurd....then Trump finds another place. I keep watching for Trump to fuck up...in his speechses, in his dialouge, I don't think it is there. I really think he cares. I listened to his Tax plans last night as well as his plans for Isis. Tax plan was great...he said "I know hedge fund managers that shuffle paper and make millions....." He basically said to F these guys...HAHAHA. He said..."We just sent 2300 Humvees over there to the Iraq military...the Iraqi military ran...now Isis has them....Isis has better gear than us...I would fix that." He said go in there hard, surround the oil, make an invincible perimeter and shut them off from all of their oil and the oil money...they are done. Then he talked about when Kuwait was invaded back in the 90's. He said we (US Military) moved quickly, our military went over there while the Kuwaiti leaders flew away (waited in a nice hotel)..our guys died....we got the country back....AND BEFORE WE GAVE THE COUNTRY BACK TO KUWAIT, WE SHOULD HAVE NEGOTIATED FOR 50% OF THIER OIL FOR LIFE. I about fell over. We gave the country back for nothing...our guys died, we get the shaft. What is not to like?
The gullability of the average Pugnicant voter is not to like. The fact that you think this idiot blowhard is fit to lead a military in any way is both hilarious and fucking scary at the same damn time.
The military is looking to accept transgenders! You think it can get worse??
Like the average Democunt voter is any brighter? Someone needs to give you a colonic with some more of Obama's "Hope and Change"...
>The fact that you think this idiot blowhard is fit to lead a military
Like Biden? Like Sanders? or any of the others from the Democratic Party? Or for that matter the Republican Party?
My 8 years in the military probably make me more fit to lead than any one of these blowhards.
Now you be a good mad scientist and go back to playing with your dissected foetuses.
Trumps views on the ME and ISIS are laughable. ZH has covered these subjects at length. The US and Israel (CIA and Mossad) were behind the funding and training of ISIS. You will never hear Trump say that. In fact, he spounds more like John McCain and Lindsey Graham when it comes to US foreign policy warmongering bullshit.
Seriously, the average IQ around here is dropping like a stone lately.
It is. This coment section was so much better to read, and a hell of a lot smrter, during the 2012 campaign. I think trump is playing all of you for fools. Any of you that both believe he is genuine and believe that he is actually going to solve any of our problems is pretty fucking sad. I thought ZHers were smarter than this
First of all, thanks for keeping up the good fight (even if it might not be effective). Many of us don't have the time to do it. And while I sometimes like to read through the comments (because some of the best stuff is often to be found there rather than in the article), they are so diluted with crap that it's getting less and less justifiable to spend time even on that.
ZH is no different than any other place - if it's nice, it's going to be invaded by the retarded immoral masses until it's turned to shit - unless steps are taken to keep them out. Who needs to be kept out? Anyone who isn't rational for starters. (True morality is impossible without rationality.) I used to think it was a simple matter of some people understanding logic and some not, but it's worse than that. Aftering listening to http://tomwoods.com/podcast/ep-429-is-reason-enough-why-your-opponents-w... (found via http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-02/ceo-hikes-minimum-wage-70k-capi... ), it became apparent that many people can understand logic in a sort of abstract sense, can demonstrate their logic abilities when tested on some neutral subject, but their ability to perform logic goes right out the window as soon as you get to any subject which evokes an emotional or instinctual response from them. (There are some decent comments on the Tom Woods page, including some by David_Rogers_Hunt who points out these emotional/instinctual responses tend to be ill-suited for modern day living because that is not the environment in which they evolved - the modern day presents problems humans' "deep-seated feeling generators" have not evolved to handle appropriately.) This is, for example, why you often see scientists (who do understand the scientific method in the abstrast) turn to shit reason as soon as climate change comes up (and emotional responses related to perceived threats, their built-in idea of "caring", their righteousness, etc. just take over their brain). This "shutting off" of the logical brain is apparently even visibile in an fMRI: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-01/euhs-esl012406.php
It seems that many who want liberty do not understand the need to be exclusive. Open borders (with subsequent open voting) is currently guaranteed to not produce liberty. Those who both embrace liberty and understand what is needed to preserve it is a very small percentage of the total population. Even within a population of voters in a libertarian nation, it's entirely possible that those then born of libertarian parents but not born with "the gift" of remaining rational even in the face of emotional stresses (and unable to learn said skill) would have to be denied voting rights if you want liberty to remain mathematically viable.
In essence, those without "the gift" are lesser (less capable) life forms. That's not to say they shouldn't be treated justly, but giving them the keys to justice and expecting them to not blow it for everyone is in reality no more practical than handing those keys to monkeys and expecting them to treat humans fairly.
Did you just make a Blut und Boden argument for libertarianism? It must be wonderfully fucked up living in your skull.
Rationality is damn overrated. It doesn't even really exist. I am a libertarian precisely because i don't believe in reasonable people.
The Keys to Justice. That sounds like some fantasy novel drivel to me. Quick Harry Potter you must throw the Key of Justice into the Grand Flame of Eternal Bullshit to acquire The Cockring of Wisdom so you can finally unfuck humanity!!!
Your friend,
A shit flinging monkey
You are a prime example of someone who should not be allowed to vote - especially not if you actually want liberty.
I made no "Blut und Boden" argument (something rooted in ethnicity/racism) - in fact I made the opposite argument when I state that even if two parents, both of whom have the necessary skills to make rational choices (such as how to vote) and have therefore been given that right and responsibility, have a child, that child should not have the right to vote if the child turns out to not have that necessary ability. (And the other way should be true as well - a child born of parents without the ability to make rational choices, parents who subsequently did not have the right to vote, should themselves have the right to vote if they turn out to have such ability.)
The fact that stupid voters make stupid choices should be obvious, even to a lesser life form such as yourself. Empowering stupid poeple with the power to vote is itself stupid (unless, of course, your goal is an easy-to-manipulate electorate).
Then apparently you agree at a very basic level (even if not at a more detailed level) with the neo-liberals who feel that whatever makes them feel good is the right thing to do, because who cares about results? - those things one has a chance of working out if one has sufficient skill in rational thought. Results matter - that means the ability to predict the results of one's actions (both individually and collectively) matters - and that means an ability to think rationally matters. To say rationality doesn't matter is to say results don't matter which is to say it doesn't matter to you whether or not you live in a world which lets you be free. That doesn't sound very libertarian to me.
Because you were too stupid to get it, that was a simple metaphor for the ability to influence law (e.g., vote). Those who are not rational tend to be unable to foresee the results of the laws they might support or oppose (much less the results of supporting/opposing a given representative), making their input at best worthless noise, and more often than not much worse than that because such people tend to be both numerous and easily manipulated by those who are ready and willing to engage in such manipulation - their vote is often effectively not their own. That means the power of voting itself is not really distributed among the people as was the intent, but concentrated into the hands of the manipulators. Even if you think stupid people should have the right to vote (which I do not), most lack the ability to even make voting choices, irrational or otherwise - they are incapable of doing anything other than letting others make their choices for them.
(Note that since all of the above is a rational argument, it is obviously not intended for you, but rather for others who might be reading.)
Rationality is a fine tool if it gets you desired results, but theres nothing rational about desiring anything. Existence has no purpouse.
You are right that logic by itself (or even when combined with purely factual knowledge such as the laws of physics, history, etc.) is unable to tell anyone what their primary goals should be - what "the meaning of life" should be for them. (It can, however, help immensely with determining subgoals.)
I would point out though that your "existence has no purpose" statement is a little too loosely worded to be entirely true, though it becomes so if slightly modified: "existence has no purely objective purpose (as far as we know...)"
That is to say, we can assign purpose to our own lives, but that process can neither be purely logical nor purely objective. (Though maybe in some forms of logic, seeking a means to determine objective purpose would itself be considered a purely logical goal.)
Anyways, that just points out that rationality, even if necessary, is not sufficient. Dealing with varying primary goals is a whole other problem. However, I suspect that even though there is no purely rational way to determine such primary goals, there would be a much greater degree of convergence and compatability in primary goals among a more rational voting population than among what we have today - and that is at least in part because while rationality can't tell you what should ultimately be, it can at least point out contradictions in a set of beliefs about what should be and thereby help eliminate those (all too common today) mishmashes from consideration.
And you are a prime example of a comment section genius of the I am right and everybody is stoopid kind.
You disclassify yourself from any reasonable discussion by referring to me as a lesser lifeform and classifying people as dumb thinking that settles the argument. But here's an attempt to shoot right over that wall of text i admittedly stopped reading halfway down the first pparagraph. You seem to me like one of them recent converts that's trying to turn libertarian thinking into some cold hard ideologic dogma....which to me is just funny and exposes that you just don't get it. Ideology is dead and dogma is for the intellectually weak and naturally submissive.
In fact, you're no different from me...just another shit flinging monkey. You're just a bit dumber because you take the bait so easily, it's a sapient thing... Little monkeys like to project themselves. Do you really rationally think that your wall.of text is doing anything? Omg mr snafu you are right, have an upvote and please bask me.in the light of your eternal and unerring wisdom so I can become a higher being stalking the ZH comment sections like a motherfucking boss too!!!
You have no idea who I am and what I think like. I'm not giving you any. I'm just here, flinging shit at whoever i think looks good with a bit of monkey shit on their face. Life isn't simple, but it is easy. At least the shit i fling around is funny amd doesn't need to come off smart.
your friend,
The cryptogayzionistconspiracy
I tried but TL,DR
It doesn't work that way. "our guys" die so that the big corporations get the contracts, get the natural resources, and so on to make millions. Having that oil go to the public for transportation cost would never fly with the politicians or the corporations. If Trump tried to do such a thing as president he would be JFK'd. General Butler layed the whole thing out in the 1930s with "War is a Racket".
Where is this respubica of earth seat of power located?
When are the old school statists going to realize they are against the tide?Question is how long the tide will rise and if will subside.
Could Donald Trump be lamer than W and Obama and Billary, combined? Maybe, but you have to throw in the NOW, the communist party AND RahMOSSAD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouHkL7u9qLw
salvos teipsum, bastards. Its only going to get wierder from here, and you know what they say. Hehehehehehehehe hahahahahaha ahahahaha
dont forget to take you meds this morning monad or else we are going to have to put you back in that straight jacket.
They're coming to take him away, ho ho:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fn36l_z3WY
This guy could be a serial killer at this point and I'd support him. The establishment hates him and that's good enough for me.
Rule #1 - Always vote for the candidate the mainstream disses the most.
That's Bernie Sanders, not Trump. Socialist vs. Blowhard? Not even close!
1) It depends on what you consider "mainstream media".
2) If you've ever lived through Socialist rule, you would gladly choose Blowhard every time. IT.DOES.NOT.WORK.
Forgetting about the particular personalities involved, what's clear in looking at the surpising poll numbers for both Bernie and The Donald, is that they are two ends of the exact same stick: they both are tapping into the extreme disgust and frustration in current power structure by most Americans. Most Americans know they are being raped by the DC assholes, and their children are being sold into slavery as the American Dream vaporizes. The middle class has no power at all. The rich can buy power and legislation, and the masses of poor (both homegrown and imported daily) can vote their largesse. The middle class splits on Red vs White, and, you guessed, you get Obama!
So bottom line is that neither of them are really viable except that they are seen as outsiders for some reason, and that's exactly what people want, a non-politician, at least perception-wise. So the fact that Trump's rhetoric and stance appeals to the right and Bernies communism leaning appeals to the left is painfully predictable, and it's just a side-show to the next level of destruction of US citizens' liberty by the predator class.
If the MSM and the "intelligista" REALLY had the interest of the public in mind, they would attempt to shape the race in a way that galvanizes the support of this bloc of people behind ONE candidate, and that candidate would have a real chance of winning. LOL, not in this lifetime.
>>>If the MSM and the "intelligista" REALLY had the interest of the public in mind, they would attempt to shape the race
It is not their job to shape the race.
I would be happy if they stuck to doing their job and stay neutral.
HAHAHAHA. I agree it shouldn't be their job, but they strayed from that a looooong time ago. In terms of staying neutral, when's the last time they even questioned Obama????
Why would they have any interest in the only candidate that wouldn't have squandered trillions in the sand?
Murkans wanna show they can watch and feel better about themselves without having to actually improve themselves in any way; no wonder Trump is their poster boy.
Why have no interest in Sanders? Because I'm not interested in more socialism.
Skip the psychoanalysis of the American people next time. It makes you look a twat - a rancid leftist one.
Becuse history is so full of socialist successes... They should have used nails when they stuck you on the cross.
the main carney attraction arrives to set up the tent of misfits
Good on ya.
Island of Misfit Toys, both D and R, without the humanity.
http://christmas-specials.wikia.com/wiki/Misfit_Toys
can't help but notice all the trumpettes on board with every post about the arrogant one. all about him and him only and no one else. his claim to fame.....build a wall....a wall that the repuckicans with control of the house and control of the purse can't build! you just can't make this freak show up. iowa state fair....how appropiate
Finally someone that gives Americans what they crave and well...deserve. That's what I think.
I'd campaign like this too if I could afford it. Maybe shoot some buffalo from a moving train and sexually assault some ponies to really drive home that I'm all american and can't be messed with, just like all of y'all.
So, you like #politicalincorrectness, ey?
Trump will finally turn the US into that isolated,self centered and willfully ignunt cuntry it always secretly wanted to be. Just like Cait :) It's perfect for a rebellious colony founded by slave owning gentleman-rejects who liked to bloviate about equal rights and free enterprise, with a population of teenage moms and religious nutcases toting machine guns because that's their patriotic right and it gives them a false sense of security amidst a rapidly devolving social fabric and unchecked and unprecedented polarisation and demagoguery dictating public debate. A country so adverse to intelligence and reason they now finally get to choose between a very nice and friendly grandma who lies so obviously blantantly nobody even notices anymore and one dick of a granddad who tells you to your face that you're a loser and he doesn't give a shit about you. She won't be able to stop to decline, he's just very fond of running things into walls and things.
It's all coming together quite nicely actually. Do it for us, the Dutch. We gave you guys reality tv and American Idols. Just give us 4 years of trump, that's all we ask in return. Else we may have to reconsider those xtc shipments we've been sending you regularly to help keep your kids in check and perform better at binge drinking. We're not a fucking charity, okay? This pofaced sincerity shtick that Obama has been trying for the past 8 years doesn't work and is old. We like our untrustworthiness reliable like clockwork (hence the EU). Shit without us you'd be nowhere..we gave you reality tv, sold you New York (wall street built and everything), without us trump wouldn't even exist. We invented the stock market for you. We even gave you santa clause and the name 'yankees'.
When I thinkabout all those poor Mexicans throwing away their hopes and dreams to join a broken country that hates them, it breaks my heart. That wall needs to be built, we have to protect those poor people against their own poor judgement. We owe that to their children.
Stay strong guys. When you see a crew of emaciated mexican illegals wearing Trump Co. coveralls gold plating the white house (lead based, obviously) you know that hope will be on the horizon. Just think about all the classic television moments it'll make.
And besides...the guy DID write The Art of The Deal, you know? Did you? No, i mean really, did you guys know that? I sure didn't, hadn't even heard of the book cause I don't read and I cant afford a big screen tv so following the news is fucking pointless anyway (try telling ISIS guys apart in SD and you'll know what I mean).
Besides besides consider yourselves lucky. I wasactually hoping Rupert Murdoch himself would just announce himself the candidate while being sucked off by Bill O'Reilly live on air...but hey..we can't all be winners. Some of us are losers so that's why we want Trump to win for us, so we can cheer for him and tell him how awesome he is. Socialism At Work (tm).
CAIT/FARRAKHAN 2020!!!
4 people did not know Donald J Trump did write The Art of The Deal. Jeez.
Edit: 8...wow have you people been living under a rock or something?
Don't just downvote me guys, let's debate...like proper adults and shit. We can only get better if we just listen to each other.
I would like to thank the Dutch for one more thing - slavery. Without it we might not have gotten to live cotton so much.
gregghost, I even put your post into Google Translate and still couldn't discern what the fuck you are talking about? Congress doesn't mean shit anymore haven't you been paying attention, it's all about Executive Orders and pandering to the media/masses dumbass.
At least a wall would be a shovel-ready job unlike the last 7 years....
I keep waiting for Trump to reveal that he's just been trolling us the whole time, and by the way what the hell were we thinking to make him a leading candidate for President, also watch my new reality TV show on Fox!
Might be better to vote for the ones they just ignore.
Alex, that would be, "Who is Ron Paul?"
Wait'll he sics the IRS on the various traditional media outlets, including the Register. Those bastards will get back in their places in a hurry.
did he actually say that? this makes my point perfectly! or is this just a trumpette showing their true ugly side. let me guess....you were the first to condemn obama for his use of the irs this way.....however it's okay for your clown to do it!!!!?????? wahooo do you work for the campaign or just another fool following another?
turnabout is fairplay.
the liar on locust makes me yearn for a coprorate noose and a corporate gallows.... what a disgrace to the concept of freedom of the press... it should be put down in the back pasture old yeller style....
If any president really wanted to make a difference he'd sic the DOJ on the media oligopoly. And not to just break it up; to fragment the fucking shit out of it.
The establishment hates him
If the establishment hated him, you wouldn't know about him. This "anti-establishment" talk? This is DONALD TRUMP. He has been working the central halls of Wall Street his entire career. Where do you think the money for all his deals has come from? He is among the most public of public figures we have. Anti-establishment?!?! Seriously?
how much has wall street donated to his campaign? i think that would be a truer assessment than mere accusations.
good lord.....the bankers contribute with every real estate deal they transact with the donald. accusations? it's there for even the blind to see
i don't disagree with being skeptical but the one thing that trump has done that has my attention is that he has changed the entire controlled dialogue in the matter of months... even if he doesn't come out and attack the bankers, i don't see this benefitting them. yes they like to have their hands in everything, I am not convinced that they have had their hands in this as much as they would like... I am reserving judgment, but this is starting to look like a runaway grandjury in some sense... trump may have igninted something much bigger than himself, and if he is a selfish prick and arrogant blowhard that is fooling the american people, he will be run over like the roadkill he is, but if he does actually care about this country and his jingoism is true, he may have given this country something it has needed in a long time, a chance.... not hope... not optimism... just a chance.... and we must make the best of it before they slam the hammer down.....
I have a confession to make. I made similar comments to this one you make here about Obama in 2008. I reserved judgment and thought we ought to give him a chance. After all, he was saying the right things...
Live and learn. It was days (literally) into Obama's first term that my judgment was no longer reserved, and since then I have absolutely written off anyone who is presented on the MSM.
How do you know what Trump thinks? Because the media are giving him lots of airtime. He is presented as "different", "rebellious", etc. But who is doing the presenting? Never forget to take that next step. Who is [telling this story / allowing this story to be told]? The owners of the media are not stupid, and they are definitely "the establishment". If Trump is visible, it's because his is a story that will not damage their interests. And who do these power brokers own? All politicians.
Again, what they say makes zero difference. What they do is who they are. The life Trump has lived makes him anything but anti-establishment. And for the past [pick one: 15? 23? 44? 102? 154? 239?] years, we have a beautiful track record of the direction the establishment is leading us. Learn to ignore the image presented. Because that's all it ever is: an image, a mirage.
atleast you were honest... when skolnick outted obama back in 2006 and jack ryan was run out of the senatorial election on a sex scandal and allen west flown in to hand the election to obama, i new then what he was... a creation of the shadowlands. trump doesn't have this kind of back story... sorry you bought the obama lie. and i am not supporting trump. I am just releshing in the fact that he has been able to change the dialogue into a more adult conversation
exactly sofapapa....this man will never speak ill of the bankers. they are his life blood. he would not exist without them. he would not be the freak show attraction at the fair today without them. anyone else with anything important to say is drowned out by a complete loud mouth asshole. there are exactly two loud mouth assholes running....trump and hillary. god save the U.S. of A.
I'll recognize the fact he's been shown contempt by the propaganda ministry.
I also recognize the fact that this guy is a clown. He isn't even remotely qualified to be POTUS.
Of course not one of the last 33 or so 'Presidents' has been either.
Once barry whatever his real name is gets done, it truly isn't going to matter anyway.
Already well off the cliff.
Nice looking plane. Rock on Trump! Keep shaking up the establishment..
https://youtu.be/171FURqSIQc
I was thinking of going to the fair today, now, for sure am NOT going.
Right, stay home and suck your mans cock like a good Obama wood should.
You like living in your mom's basement?
FUCK, that line is so fucking old. You couldn't come up with something original?
Telling him to "suck his mans [sic] cock" is original? And in response to a guy saying he does not want to go to the fair because the Trump circus would be there?
Very aggressive comment for so little provocation. This poster does it later in this thread too.
Neighborhood's going downhill fast...
how are you not getting the upvotes you deserve? ( i should have been patient*)
Bring back Captcha. After all, this is supposed to be a financial site, so would proving you have basic math skills before commenting be a burden?
What's amusing is that people take things out of context, or read something that isn't there. I didn't say I wasn't going to the fair cause of the Donald, I merely said I wasn't going to the fair. The reason I wouldn't go to the fair today, is because when multiple candidates are there, it's a zoo, and politicians don't impress me. But, obviously, Fukishima Fapboy, and the other Trump drones who have no life, decided I was badmouthing their golden boy. I wouldn't do that. The Donald can do that on his own. lol
How can you force a farmer to go broke? ...Nail his mailbox closed.
Allocate his water supply to the toilets of illegal aliens and anal porn starlets hundreds of miles away?
Well played.
How can you force a non farmer to starve. Leave the equipment in the shed. Only reason there is no real price discovery for value of grain is because of lying ass fucking USDA and their Chinese puppetmasters. Fuck you. Love that rainbow on your head asshole.
Hey now...don't knock the shlls for trying to make ends meet; it's hard out there for their near-septagenarian wanna-be pimp.
How much do you spend on those air fresheners monthly so you can keep skull fucking your mother's corpse without drawing the attention of your neighbors?
All too easy...
Standard Disclaimer: Navy Training!
Good. It's probably a better fair without your sorry ass.
Can't stump the Trump
The Viewers View
"Donald Trump gives hope to Black Lives. Our message to all Black lives."
https://youtu.be/HfOgok0kcE0
Trump to victory Hillary to prision.
<--Trump to Victory
<--Hillary to prison
For those who can't agree with both.
COTUS
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-pokes-fun-email-scandal-w...
Hillary to prison; Trump to dustbin of history.
Gee. I'm kind of surprised he doesn't have his own space shuttle.
I doubt he has interest in bad decisions and failure....
Well just wait....the campaign isn't over yet.
Trump should avoid private planes and helicopters:
Democratic Senate candidate Mel Carnahan died in a private plane crash on Oct. 16, 2000, just three weeks before the 2000 elections
On Oct. 24, 2002, just two weeks before the 2002 elections, Democratic Senate candidate Paul Wellstone was killed in a plane crash. His wife died with him. Wellstone had been projected to win the election.
there was a crash of a united jet over 40 years ago on approach to Midway in Chicago from DC, carrying lobbyists and elected officials. While it was a target rich environment, I forgot who the newspapers then tabbed as the likely target. Probably an opponent of the first mayor daley.
there was a crash of a united jet over 40 years ago
At that time, Watergate burglar E. Howard Hunt was in jail and allegedly blackmailing Nixon about his involvement in the Kennedy assassination. He wanted a million dollars and to be released from jail immediately. That plane crash in which his wife died was a warning to Howard Hunt to shut up. Hunt himself believed that his wife had been murdered:
There was a lot of intrigue surrounding the crash forty-years-ago today of United Flight 553 into a neighborhood near Chicago’s Midway Airport. When the flight took off from National Airport, among the passengers on board the Boeing 737 was Dorothy Hunt, the wife of Watergate conspirator E. Howard Hunt. She was carrying $10,000 in cash. In another seat was CBS reporter Michele Clark who was following the Watergate story. Both died in the crash along with 41 other people on the plane and two women on the ground.
http://www.statter911.com/2012/12/08/40-years-ago-today-crash-of-united-...
Saint John Hunt also revealed for the first time that E. Howard Hunt thought that the Chicago plane crash that killed his wife in 1972 was not an accident. Investigators discovered at least $10,000 dollars in Dorothy Hunt's luggage, money that Saint John Hunt alleges was Nixon campaign funds used to payoff the families of the Watergate burglars to keep them quiet about the involvement of the Nixon White House in the Watergate break-in and cover-up.
"Later on in his life at one of these bedside confessions....tears started welling up in his eyes and he said, 'you know Saint I was so deeply concerned that what they did to your mother they could have done to you children' and that caused the hair on my neck to stand up - that was the first disclosure from my father that he thought there was something else going on besides sheer pilot error," said Hunt.
Eyewitnesses reported that the plane exploded above treetop level before it had even hit the runway.
Hunt said that "at least 20-25 FBI members," as well as numerous DIA agents were at the scene of the crash within minutes before rescue personnel had even arrived, and that this fact was attested to in a letter sent by the head of the Chicago FBI to investigator Sherman Skolnick.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/030507jfkconspirator.htm
I remember that ......E. Howard Hunt was one of the shooters at the grassy knoll.
+1 for the Sherman Skolnick reference...RIP Sherm.
http://www.skolnicksreport.org
they must have messed up before the 2012 election....
sherman skolnick secret history of airplane sabotage
http://www.skolnicksreport.org/shistory3.html (a snippit)
Those kids who don't make it on the helicopter ride will be given a consolation prize of a spin around the parking lot on the Donald's magic rug.
Nope, they will be given full access to Hillary's email server and they will chose to shove it up your ass.
Kinda hostile for a decent chuckle. Even The Don would laugh at that one. Get it, helicopter, flying rug, hair piece? He laughed with David Letterman when he cracked on his hair EVERY TIME, and commented "Oh this again, here we go."
That was typical snark, not light hearted chuckle. Rand is a douche almost to the level of James Cole.
Rand's posts are generally well thought out and thought provoking. You can agree or disagree. I don't even recall any of your contributions.
Hero worship is a long-standing human tradition, and is certainly on display here. Can't even crack a joke about the guy without the ZH Trumpbots swarming you like delete commands on a Hillary email server.
can't tell if the discontent is externally-induced or internally sourced anymore.... just know that is here and enjoy the show.... shit is gonna start spilling over unless the pressure or temperature can be altered
I says whats I likes cause I likes whats I says. Now I says "bitch take a long walk off a short plank"
No, magic rugs for everybody. I can totally see it front of me!
A golden helicopter raining down blonde toupees on an exstatic crowd down below. It's down right glorious! I always wear mine when I make my deals with the Mexicans and Chinese. There's nothing they respect more than the sight of glorious blond hair cradling my forehead like some Greek god (of finance).
With guys like Des Moines Register and RedState defending the mainstream Republican hierarchy, Trump would be a fool to agree to support the Republican hierarchy - who hope and pray every day that Trump will say something to take himself out of the race. Early on Trump may have done that, but I thank Megyn Kelly for waking up The Donald as to how nasty Fox and others will be. If anything, they have shot themselves in the foot by giving Trump a shot across the bow rather than a 'broad'-side!
That would require humility and self-reflection, neither of which have been strongsuits for "The Donald" historically.
Anyone who believes anything said by a campaigning politician is a definite RUBE....now that being said, Mr. Trump brings along a whole new style of entertainment unlike the previous shows that we couldn't escape nor hide from...So, there's a new show in town; that in itself is refreshing but nonetheless is still a SHOW....
So they show a photo of an old B-727 which won't even pass noise restrictions.
The pictured 727 has a "kit" that allows noise compliant departures. The video shows the recently acquired 757.
Even Stage 3 huskhitted aircraft aren't allowed in Europe anymore. Trust me I worked a few B-727's in Brussels in mid 90's/
Even Stage 3 huskhitted aircraft aren't allowed in Europe anymore. Trust me I worked a few B-727's in Brussels in mid 90's/
Yeah, what a loser. Nobody flies 3 holers anymore, they're extremely loud, horribly inefficient terrible aircraft. Terribly noisy! Trust Me. What is this 1970? I don't think so, Mr. Trump. You're fired!!!!!
Even Stage 3 huskhitted aircraft aren't allowed in Europe anymore. Trust me I worked a few B-727's in Brussels in mid 90's/
Politics and politicians..... Filled with clowns and circus, the non-funny type that have destroyed this once great country.
The MBM's (mouth breathing morons) AKA voters, apparently love the path we have taken over the decades. They do it over and over again.
Trump is a little bit of a shift from the norm. He is in it for the attention... billions in free publicity! The rest of the assholes running the race do not know what to do with him.
He crashed their incestuous party and shit in their punch bowl, and I for one like it! I hope he keeps right on pissing on their heads. This single party system needs to be derailed.
Doubtful the dimwitted MBM's will vote for it though.
We were such a political legend in our own minds that we never got over it.
Airforce FuckYou, Its Mine. Or Air Force I'll suck your dick... Really? Really. The homicidal niggers ain't Megan Kelly, but they'll gangrape her in a heartbeat, and get away with it. This is normal? FU Tavistock.
I was hunting 2-legged rats last night. I found some.
FUCK YOU
You wanted it. You have my full attention.
I'm assuming you used Carlin's pick just to make him spin in his grave.
He got the last laugh.
There's gonna be hell toupee!
Donald Trump and Jeremy Corbyn on the same flight path in dream liners ...... now that's what I'd call a very special transatlantic relationship, and nothing at all like the current abomination which is so reflective of present sad, trad and bad executive bodies and politically inept maladministrations.
He truly mirrors the US, broke but still flying high.