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Recovery Watch - American Food Banks Struggle To Keep Up Amidst "Surprising" Demand
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
Food banks across the country are seeing a rising demand for free groceries despite the growing economy, leading some charities to reduce the amount of food they offer each family.
U.S. food banks are expected to give away about 4 billion pounds of food this year, more than double the amount provided a decade ago, according to Feeding America, the nation’s primary food bank network. The group gave away 3.8 billion in 2013.
While reliance on food banks exploded when the economy tanked in 2008, groups said demand continues to rise year after year, leaving them scrambling to find more food.
Lisa Hamler-Fugitt, executive director of the Ohio Association of Food Banks, who has been working in food charities since the 1980s, said that when earlier economic downturns ended, food demand declined, but not this time.
From the AP article: Food Banks Struggle to Meet Surprising Demand
It’s an economic recovery so robust, food bank demand has increased every single year during it.
It’s an economic recovery so robust, people running food banks say they’ve never seen food bank demand increase during a recovering economy. Ever. Except this time.
It’s a fraud. The entire thing. This recovery has been a mainstream media meme used to cover up what is really happening: oligarch theft.
But don’t take it from me. From the AP:
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Food banks across the country are seeing a rising demand for free groceries despite the growing economy, leading some charities to reduce the amount of food they offer each family.
U.S. food banks are expected to give away about 4 billion pounds of food this year, more than double the amount provided a decade ago, according to Feeding America, the nation’s primary food bank network. The group gave away 3.8 billion in 2013.
While reliance on food banks exploded when the economy tanked in 2008, groups said demand continues to rise year after year, leaving them scrambling to find more food.
“We get lines of people every day, starting at 6:30 in the morning,” said Sheila Moore, who oversees food distribution at The Storehouse, the largest pantry in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and one where food distribution has climbed 15 percent in the past year.
James Ziliak, who founded the Center for Poverty Research at the University of Kentucky, said the increased demand is surprising since the economy is growing and unemployment has dropped from 10 percent during the recession to 5.3 percent last month.
Yes, the increased demand is “surprising” if you get your economic news from the mainstream media, Wall Street analysts and pundits.
The drop in food stamp rolls by nearly 2.5 million people from recession levels could be contributing to the food bank demand, he said, because people who no longer qualify for the government aid may still not earn enough to pay their bills.
That’s an interesting angle.
Feeding America spokesman Ross Fraser said a recent study by his organization estimated that 46 million people sought food assistance at least once in 2014.
Feeding America, which coordinates large food donations for 199 food banks nationwide, has seen donations of food and money to the Chicago-based organization climb from $598 million in 2008 to $2.1 billion in 2014.
So donations to food banks nearly quadrupled during the so-called “economic recovery,” yet they still can’t keep up. Got it.
Lisa Hamler-Fugitt, executive director of the Ohio Association of Food Banks, who has been working in food charities since the 1980s, said that when earlier economic downturns ended, food demand declined, but not this time.
Perhaps because there’s no real recovery?
In Fort Smith, Arkansas, the monthly food giveaways at a local park by the River Valley Regional Food Bank draw about 1,000 families.
“When people are willing to stand in 100 degree weather for hours, that tells you something,” said Ken Kupchick, the food bank’s marketing director.
So why is this happening? Because oligarchy.
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But, but, but, we are in a recovery! Everyone knows that any americans snorring food from food banks are lazy assholes.
If you disagree, you must be an agent of Putin, and we have a FEMA camp waiting to re educate you.
Indeed. The Wreckovery is going swimmingly well.
Won't be long before even Keynesians will have trouble maintaining a straight face while mumbling the word "recovery".
The TTP will solve the problem. Pass it and see what happens.
~"What Recovery?"~
Funny, Ive 'been asking that for 8 years. What that bit about it's a recession if you're employed and a depression if you're not? Here's one:
"My wages are so stagnant they're beginning to smell."
I give my local food bank a check every month plus extra I get from my garden. Locally the economy is decent, but demand is still going up. It's all slowly falling apart and our alleged leadership does their best to make things worse....
Wait, what?
Free food??
Count me in! Let's go get some.
/s
Hold your horses, food banks, has Michelle Obama approved the food you are distributing? After turning the federal lunch program into a redistribution network for adulterated and uneatable food from corporate vendors, Michie needs new horizons to conquer. Recycled crap is the Obama legacy.
No road kill
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19911231&id=lVtWAAAAIBAJ...
Nine-year-old Oliver is a resident in the parish workhouse where the boys are "issued three meals of thin gruel a day, with an onion twice a week, and half a roll on Sundays." The workhouse is run by Bumble the Beadle, Limbkins is Chairman of the Board of Guardians for the workhouse.
http://media.giphy.com/media/mpQkJpBMbSxMs/giphy.gif
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/730
Dicken's wouldn't believe it if he saw the new reality......
Shove this story in Jim Cramer's face!
In Iowa, Hillary jokes about email scandal
http://tinyurl.com/qgajths
Agents of Putin.
(Snikker)
http://www.zerohedge.com/users/newsoutlet
I still enjoy the memory misqoute from Groucho:
"I would never belong to a club that would have me as a member."
newsoutlet was an asshat, and I feel shunned that the Russians didn't even offer to buy my name and time for $100,000 USD.
I chalk it up to the free shit army teaching their younglings how to sponge off of the gainfully employed.
Growing like a goitre.
I'm not a bleeding heart person, but nobody should go hungry
Never travelled much ?
You may want to visit a third world country and see whats inevitably coming.
Do it soon.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to depend on a food bank and you have a parasite for a lifetime.
....or, something like that
Have a bunch of bankers gamble and rig a commodity markets making food artificaly expensive while debasing the currency?
Who's the parasite.?
I don't think anybody around here will argue about parasites in business suits.
However, there are some that should/must go hungry. Let us remember the Bible says that there is a hunger triage -
"If they will not work, they will not eat." So let's have food banks do it the good ol' British way and turn away the "undeservin' poor". How about that, Dolittle?
Perhaps inadvertently, you've nailed a point this blog post failed to mention: skyrocketing food prices + stagnant wages = more working class people (w/ jobs) lining up at food banks.
I'd love to go on a diligence trip to a typical grocery store with some BLS flunky who contributes work to the CPI basket.
Local media visits these places from time to time...50% of the "customers" are obese..another 40% are well dressed, have a decent car and I'd bet a cell phone on them somewhere...from my experience, only ~10% of the "Customers" have really fallen on bad times and in true need from these "food banks".
Asset test the "customers" and demand would fall 90%. Hell, just check their phone situation, iphones?, galaxies?...Get outa here!
Down vote him all you like I live across the street from one and it is true!
Yup. Here too. I live in a semi-rural area. Construction guys, your average young redneck, etc are all scamming the system as well. They go to the food bank to get food that way they can use their cash for hooch and other stuff. They enroll in the winter oil program, they go to the church pantries, etc.
They don't care about taking. Not guilty. No pride. Nothing. They figure if others are doing, so wil they. Some work for us on our farm doing repairs. They charge market rates, have decent trucks, tools, etc. they share their experiences without any qualms at all
In a way, I don't blame them. They are also getting hip to the welfare thing too.
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man with Alzheimers to fish and he'll eat for a day.
What recovery, we never left the recession!
The AP News is so evil. Lying for Obola and the elites/NWO. Full on endless See Eye Aye propaganda. Recovery. Ha ha. Sick joke.
Oh come on now,
It was a depression. Now it's just a recession. Ergo-- recovery.
Why da labels?
--LBGT community in support of the Brothas
Revolutions always follow food scarcity.
Always.
we don't have food scarcity, we have a "men" scarcity
The elite want this revolution.
The black poop wants to rule the world.
I mean pope.
Actually, in the French Revolution the insurrections and food riots often occurred separate from the worst points of scarcity. It was more the taxing and bureaucratic manipulation of rights and freedoms that led to the revolution. De Tocqueville makes a very important point in regards to the revolution in that it was often the more well-off areas and those areas which had recently been granted rights and freedoms that revolted. Those who gained semblances of power sought and took more.
For anyone interested, I think the chapter 'How What Today Is Called Administrative Tutelage Is An Institution of the Ancien Regime' in "The Ancien Regime and the French Revolution" is one of the most important histories contrasting the current situation in America. He shows how villages and towns had democratic and individual control of their politics and economy for hundreds of years within the monarchy, but when it was taken away and made dependent on an economy of buying the right to local elections there was an absurd distance created between the citizens and how they were governed. And it makes sense, the schizophrenic method of imposing capital controls to guarantee local autonomy would destroy the identity of the local people. Essentially it was the political classes who were idle and as the divisions between the peasant and idle political classes widened the political classes began fighting each other.
This is why he contrasts America in such a way, it is essentially an inversion of the monarchist method of localised democracy. The local rules for governance become abstract and at the level of government itself while the localised politics are reduced to economy alone. Bureaucracy is essentially made invisible and automatic in this process. To me, this suggests that the current situation was inevitable; eventually, as the invisible government forced more and more control over localised economy it would parallel, repeat, or even rhyme with what had already played out in the French monarchist system with political control. While being apparently opposed to the English monarchy's symbolic rule America took the French monarchy's methods of practical rule. And so a progressive absurdity has grown from the government's insistence on selling local rights to economic control and then arbitrarily revoking those rights. One quote suggests this connection quite clearly:
"The same person who is quite willing to leave the government of the entire nation in the hands of an autocrat balks at the idea of not having a voice in the administration of his village - such is the residual weight of the hollowest of political forms."
A similar sort of burying political purpose occurred in France with charity. The bureaucracy wanted to free itself up and impose its forms onto localised government, and with charity it did so simply by moving the official offices to impossible locations. This was where Kafka got his ideas, the very real efforts of the bureaucracy to hide itself and cause the citizens themselves to take up its political and economic efforts. Nowhere has it been so successful than in the area of charity. Strangely, again, the inverse of the French situation has occurred and it is the localised focus on economy in America which has unloaded the efforts of charity onto the government. Essentially, the refusal to participate in bureaucratic efforts locally has caused their return at the government level.
Perhaps that will come off as incoherent and confused, but everything truly is its opposite today and I think people will have to figure out this problem of two-sided politics at a deeper level. The tendency is to choose local or federal, economy or politics; but inreality these things are never separate. I am on the local side of things, but somehow people have to figure out how to keep federal and international systems of politics and economy in check. We cannot isolate ourselves and allow the autocrat to control other regions, and we cannot unload what we do not want to deal with onto him as he will take any power he can to grow.
Pardon my correction , but you are wrong.
The French Revolution began after the second year of a bad crop.
The bitch said let them eat cake, and shit hit the fan.
It really took just one stupid comment like that to get the ball moving.
Good luck.
Sing, sing, sing .... YA!
Ooh! Ooh!Oooh!
Can I say sumthing stupid and infamous like that?
--Katlin
Couldn't read it all in one session.
Break it up and save some Hyperlinks and I am your bitch.
"RO BUST"
"We Ro Busted some folks"
Raised by folks of the Great Depression and still have the property they lived on. I put things back for a rainy day.
"So why is this happening? Because oligarchy."
Bullshit. Might as well say "thanks Obama."
Read a fucking book.
http://www.cambridge.org/fi/academic/subjects/history/regional-and-world...
Half the world is undernourished. Much of the other half is malnourished. These are the lowest figures in agricultural human history, period. Gee, maybe the brilliant idea of directly converting crude to food wasn't such a brilliant idea after all. Now you've got 7 billion mouths and at the absolute most, 20 years of positive net-energy oil. But no, it's idiot Janet Yellen's fault that we don't have another 100 million years' worth of ultraconcentrated solar energy at the ready.
I'm curious. Does the medication you are on make you more or less coherent than usual?
Acid flash backs are a bitch.
(so they tell me)
"If you want to keep your rekovery, you can keep your rekovery."
Sucks for those truly in need.
" Employment is down to 5%. We're cutting benefits".
Fucking everyone with lies. Awesome.
I am sure the article is mostly correct - and I am not saying there are not many that are going hungry.
But at the same time - once you get people accustomed to getting something for free - they will keep taking it - word gets out that all you need to do is show up and you get something for free!
Most food banks don't even ask - do you really need this? They assume if you are willing to swallow your pride and go to a food bank it is because you really don't have any choice.
This was mostly true 25 years ago - but now lining up to get free stuff is a game many play and they no longer have even an ounce of shame (even less pride) for taking the free food - whether they really need it or not.
Go ahead down arrow me until your fingers bleed - but I help hand out free food - I know because I have first hand experience.
I know I am a stupid old fuck that was raised in a time where you didn't take charity from people unless you really had no choice - those days are gone - and in big part now some will think you are a fool if you don't sign up for every free benefit you can - grab all the welfare and charity you can carry.
Food banks, ha. Never been to one. But I was standing in line at the register of a supermarket in a good part of town, behind a tiny Mexican/Indian woman, who handed the cashier a piece of paper containing a printed list of a dozen or so food items. Cashier gives the list to a bagboy who runs through the store grabbing the items, and hands them free to the little Mexican woman, who also paid for one or two small items.
Courtesy of your California taxpayers. No charity. No surplus. No line longer than I had to stand in. Air conditioning. Muzak. Plenty of free parking. I should have followed her out, watched her load it into a new Mercedes - or an old pickup. What difference does it make at this point?
Angel Food was pretty good while it lasted. You paid for a month of decent food and got some Holy rolling, but a pretty good deal. The story I heard was that they were crooks.
Maybe yes, maybe no.
I rather miss it.
http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/local-church-food-ministries-suspended-due...
most religions are.
take a look at all the behind the scenes wealth accumulated by the likes of Joyce Meyers, Pat Robertson, Jimmy Swaggart, Jan and Paul Klouth (sp?_.)
there's big money in Jezuz.
Out here, we have a really well-organized food pantry run by the local church. It's so well-organized that they always have more food than demand so the folks running it generally take home large amounts that can't be given away. Nice stuff too. Turkeys, hamburger, deli frozen pizzas, smoked almonds, you name it. Not just arroz con frijoles for din-din.
My neighbor is always bringing stuff over to me and suggesting that I get hooked up, but I refuse. I'm okay with taking the leftovers they dump on me but couldn't stand the idea of taking food away from someone who truly needed it only to go home empty-handed because I got in line first. If nothing else, the ghosts of my family would murder me.
Still, it seems to be an almost universal habit out here to take the free food, no matter how well-off or otherwise you are. And every one of these people has 35-40 acres of lando or more, an acre-foot well that is non-metered, and they don't grow a thing to feed themselves.
The day is coming and its not just coming to the city folks. People have no idea of the gigantic and complex infrastructure needed to run food banks. Even more than grocery stores. Break down the transportation system even for a little while and the shit will be in a wind tunnel, not just on some fan blades.
Nice post.
applause.
Maybe someone already mentioned but it seems the bigger problem is people don't know "how" to feed themselves or their families. Proper nutrition takes a lot of research and experience, gov't suggestions, and even the food pyramid isn't perfect, especially with the over-processed garbage available today (so much food isn't really food) As far as I know a sack of pinto beans, flour, even rice, is still pretty cheap. With a little meat you can prepare something filling and nutritional. Most areas have some kind of agriculture or gardening where you can get fresh stuff for cheap. Where I live there are lots of apple trees with fruit free for the picking. As a society we need to reduce caloric intake in all forms for routine daily activity. Yeah, it takes awareness and mobility and I think there are circumstances where folks need to be fed but I'm wary of the current "hunger awareness" for all the reasons given by many other posters. I've seen families pull up in new pickups to haul off free food, many don't look the least bit malnourished in the caloric sense. The alarming thing is the number of chubby kids I see, not just the prepub/pub stage but even into young adulthood.
...lining up to get free stuff is a game many play and they no longer have even an ounce of shame (even less pride) for taking the free food - whether they really need it or not.
This is EXACTLY correct. The 'progressives' have removed all shame from enlisting in the FSA, and their desired end result was exactly what we see: takers overwhelming makers, until the entire free enterprise system collapses under the weight of the lowest common denominator. This leaves "no other option" but for Marxist psychopaths to own and operate every single person on Earth from cradle to grave - FOR THEIR OWN GOOD, of course.
"Idiocracy" with the ZioPsychos living on Olympus*, directing it all, jizzing themselves over their self-appointed "godhood." It's been the objective all along.
*figuratively speaking
How did you get inside my Brain and exit so pointedly literate?
The same thing can be said about the filthy rich captains of finance. Do they really need operation twist, zirp, qe, tarp, hft, ppt, daily swindles, so on so forth?
No, they do it anyway.
I heard this as a national news report on my local AM radio station.
The disconnect between the 'recovery' and reality is staggering.
Too much preaching to the choir and not enough Jesuit-esque holy rolling.
It did stun me for a second or two that a crack of light was let out from that closed door, and the story timing was not around the traditional Thanksgiving / Holiday season when the needy become Saints for a month.
Not too bad for an excommunicated Episcopalian's epiphany, eh?
You must have been really bad to be an excommunicated Episcopalian (Catholic lite). /sarc/
Daughter of an Episcopalian bishop sold a house to the Catholics.
1958.
Thanks to all, and all that will be, I never had to learn a catechism in Latin.
You can stand in line for free food, but not for HBO or a Yukon.
And the proportion of illegal aliens in line, must be staggering.
My food bank was held up yesterday
I have one friend who works in a food bank and another that volunteers for a group that feeds the homeless in a different city and they both say the same thing: demand for food has gone way up. I wish an article [or someone here] would explain how that meshes with the whole EBT card thing, which we joke about so much in the comments daily. How do you qualify for one, and what must happen/not happen for it to get rescinded? Seriously would like to know.
"How do you qualify for one"
1. Income has to be below a certain amount depending on the number of people in your familly.
2. Basically no assets other than a car; definately no cash in the bank or any type of savings at all.
On paper at least, you have to be flat broke and low income.
The banks, the IRS, your state Revenue Department and the Social Services are all connected now....they ask you what you have/make, but they only compare that against what they already know...if the numbers disagree too much, they'll ask you to explain why you say you make $10,000 a year but your tax return shows $50k and you're bank account has $10k in it...
http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/eligibility
it depends on what state you LIVE in--not your residence (dont get me started on that bureaucratese bullshit). Nonetheless, in flyover country you can't make more than 18k a year. You get a shitty allowance of maybe $160 per month--maybe $180 per person.
Granted there's a lot of fraud but EBT does help a lot of people. It's just that I see many of them using it always have cash for alchohol or cigarillos.
You can't buy warm foods with it but you can buy all sorts of shit food like fritos, pepsi, orange or grape soda. No ice cream.
food banks out here are mostly used by illegal aliens with 5 kids driving $50,000 trucks
It was always easy to pick out the illegals when I was working at Wal-Mart in college. They always showed up with their entire family looking like they didn't have two pennies to rub together, but then they'd take a wad of $100s out of their wallets to pay with.
These reports are a lie. No one is going hungry. The recovery is robust.
And if anyone tells you different...let 'em eat paper.
I Am COMEX gold.
"It’s a fraud. The entire thing. This recovery has been a mainstream media meme used to cover up what is really happening: oligarch theft."
And they'll keep pushing it further until people rise up and fight back.
You are delusional to think that anyone cadging a regular free feed is going to 'rise up with any sense of purpose other than to get another free meal.
You are both correct. It is going to take torches and pitchforks and heads on pikes, followed by self-reliance and personal responsibility - and that is not very likely to happen any longer. The Welfare State has had its desired evolutionary effect upon the populace.
Nice straight thought. Thanks.
Not in the US. They will not rise up as long as their favorite TV program is on and they have potato chips and beer.
Food banks are the "thousand points of light" daddy Bush dreamed of.
Give it up RH.
Your boy the POTUS has put enough grenades played forward to ensure the failure of the next three presidents , who ever they may be.
I list only two examples:
Obamacare has not even partially come on line yet.
Iranian 'agreement' is not effective until 1 qtr 2016.
Bonus:
His Secretary of state will be indited for treason and allowed to walk.
Bonus bonus
A corrupted Supreme court that re legislates more effectively than the Congress.
yep, I'm such an Obama fan. Get a grip, son.
Well as I see it, it's just another "industry" where the internet and the ability to inform and become informed has grown tremondously, therefore demand may rise. That still doesn't mean it's a sign of economic recovery, but it also doesn't mean that the food bank demand is up simply becuase more people are "hard up". I conduct a good percentage of my business in the "Ghettos". Sourdce: I've gotten to see and understand poverty a lot better than I have ever read or watched about, simply by experienceing and talking to the people in the neighborhoods. It's funny I never once thought I would know some local "bums" and "crackheads" and they know me in the 2nd poorest large city in the US.
Your writing shows your point clearly.
May I nominate you for a position in HUD?
Go down to your local food bank and sit in the parking lot and watch the land whales line up, while texting/talking on the lastest phone. Along with the cig hanging out of the mouth. Interesting lot...the straving.
Ok do that (food kitchen) about once a month as my wife and I volunteer. I pearl dive and she works the dining hall with coffee, tea, water and then the clean up mop. Been doing it over 5 years and it has changed my perception of whose using the service. The kitchen we work is operated daily and we are told what the count is each time we work. Started out at around 120 a night and now typically over 200. The Lord's Diner has a larger primary kitchen in downtown Wichita and even sends food trucks into high need areas to distribute daily. They claim around 8000 meals a day are being delivered thru the two kitchens and neighborhood delivery. The kitchen we work primarily serves the working poor and those that having a tough time feeding themselves. Lots of out of code food from Panera, Quick Trip, local bakeries and producers. In addition alot of food is prepared in the central kitchen and also in our kitchen.
Sure there are regulars you see almost everytime we work retiree's and now lots more under 30's. Have Walmart employees that used to be regulars and still see them but now they don't come in with their work clothes on. Asked one why and was told they were "advised" not wear there uniforms in due to Walmart not wanting the association. These guys were working in the automotive dept so it wasn't just a smock that can easily be removed.
We usually have about 15 members of our congregation that support this mission on the nights we work. While some used to eat the food most don't and now its not even mentioned as avaliable. Trust me its not anything most would stand in line for as these folks do. I have only seen one incident where a volunteer tried to walk out with a small package of donated cookies. The mgr followed him out the door and retrived the cookies. So the organzation we volunteer for is not lining the stomachs or pantry of its volunteers.
This time of year like the Dec-February time period we see folks linger due to the heat/cold wherever they maybe living. Its more comfortable at the kitchen than wherever they maybe staying. We don't have TV's going or other distractions to keep them there. Its a refuge for a couple hours a day. Not saying you never see a nice car in the parking lot or people not looking like they are totally indigent. Just that its tough out there for the working poor....try getting by on even a couple of $12/hour partime jobs....if you do the math you see the numbers don't work. If you want to get pissed how about the few thousands on Wall Street whose bonus pool last year exceeded the total NATIONAL outlays for the Food Stamp program for 46 Million residents of the U.S.. Thats something to really complain about
Three things made mid nineteen century American's independent.
Notice how these three things are being slowly widdled away?
What do you mean by "slowly"?
Great Depression had a lot of food lines (cue in SNAP, WIC, and food banks) just like this Great Recovery by Overlord Obola.
Obola has systemically infected the economy with his "recovery." Mission Accomplished
Try to survive a child custody battle and see how you fair economically. My custody battle cost me 185,000 dollars. Enough to completely collapse my small business. I since purchased a small hobby farm forclosed on by Fanny Mae for peanuts on the dollar. I began growing food by the metric ton, and donating it to the food shelf as there weren't enough people in this county to make the labor a sustainable business. During the winter months, and living on an income of 20 dollars a week, when I had the fuel, I would stand in line with the rest for my *free* hand out. I deserve this ridicule along with all the rest, it rolls off me like water on a ducks back. My only salvation was to take this farm off the grid and build my own power grid during the unwind. Living on 20 dollars a week for 6 years has some very powerful benefits, but there will be times when coffee and milk won't be in your diet. I've met some grand people standing in those lines, and one particular cunt. The ratio was not what I expected at all.
911 was a Classical Conditioning experiment that worked wonders when it comes to the Official Version that the Oligarchs forced everyone to believe. Once the 911 lie was firmly entrenched throughout the Western World it was easy to accept that the Oligarchs would utilize lying as the way forward. People knew the World over that Bush was threatening everyone with death when he stated "You are either with us, or with the terrorists". This one statement shut down dissenting voices until Bush was challenged by Dylan Avery. At that juncture dissenting voices came out of the woodwork. Moreover, officialdom has perpetuated the Official Version of the 911 events so that the ongoing threat of death is ingrained in the minds of all that are even remotely thinking about challenging the system, and the bureaucrats that work in it. Once people are ready to face death we will see the Revolution, but NOT until then.
Give it up Master Debater.
You alienate people rather than unite them.
Take another tack, stupid, you are only going back and fourth with the one you've got, and making no progress.
You are entitled to your opinion, Arnold. If I wanted to unite people I would have become an Anglican Minister, but I chose Grumpy Marxism instead. I don't expect to be 'liked' on Z/H. I'm not BIG on prosocial behaviour in Fascist times. Say what you will.
Fascism is Marxism, only with nationalism instead of globalism. You can't oppose one and not the other.
Aside from that, I more or less agree with your take on 911. It was an NWO catalyst and a global MK-Ultra PsyOp, all rolled into one.
I'm a Grumpy Marxist, and not an orthodox Marxist. I'll use Marxism as a tool to exact the kind of leverage necessary to destroy Ponzi Casino Capitalism, and the Fascist Totalitarian State apparatus, and superstructure. Once that superstructure is destroyed, and we are already at that juncture, the hydraulics of force will destroy the Oligarchy outright. Furthermore, it destroys by the process of implosion just like the World Trade Centers were imploded into their own footprints. Moreover, one only needs to reverse engineer in order to completely destroy the Oligarchs and their schemes to control people like you, and me. What the Oligarchs never expected in their wildest dreams was that I could infiltrate their sanctum and destroy it from within without their being able to detect how that is even possible.
NOTE: Marxism is a Theory that is subject to revision. Grumpy Marxism is that revision.
I agreed with much of your opinion at first.
When it becomes a rote rhetoric, it becomes stale very quickly.
You are not alone in this sphere of thought, but to go to the root, the same thing over and over becomes dull.
You are not reaching a sheep flock here, only many of the choir.
Chumbawumba accused me of being banal, and now you are accusing me of being 'stale'. Frankly, I am both banal, & stale, like a curmudgeon. My father was the same way IMHO.
NOTE: My latest batch of buds is not very inspiring, frankly. I've been smoking mediocre bud since the spring and I am not happy about it.
I'll try to change up my rants, sorry.
ISLEY BROTHERS; Harvest for the world:
A nation planted, so concerned with gain
As the seasons come and go, greater grows the pain
And far too many feelin' the strain
When will there be a harvest for the world
Dress me up for battle, when all I want is peace
Those of us who pay the price, come home with the least
Nation after nation, turning into beast
When will there be a harvest for the world?
I remember when the bananas got ripe they marked them down. Now, until they bk and sell the facility they give them to the "food bank", write them off at full retail + stick the consumers with the bill. Double plus accounting enema. *winning*
In my community a lot of the food bank patrons drive to the food bank and get out talking on their cell phones while smoking a cig.
There will always be the lazy who would rather take the handout than do any work!
1) Basic economics tells you the potential demand for anything free is infinite
2) The USA is on its 3rd or 4th generation of progressive social-welfare policies. We are reaching the apogee. The United States has 50 million working-age adults not working, nor looking for work. The free-shit army has become a horde
So why is anyone at foodbanks surprised by the demand they are seeing??
How many of the alleged "american poor" are the TENS OF MILLIONS of latin american poverty imported into the USA through an intentionally open no-consequence border, open invitation to receive American entitlement programs and 8+ amnesties ??????
How many of the alleged "american poor" are the MILLIONS of ghetto garbage that are subsidized thru the MASSIVE entitlement vote-buying programs and allowed/encouraged to breed with reckless abandon ?
How much of an increase in illegal aliens have we had in the last decade? And their family sizes usualy require far more than the average American family.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain (It's time to toss the dice)
The Daily Economist
ponders the resulting behavioral differences on the "beneficiaries" of one section of society between printing free money for banks and free food for people...
thinks about regulations v means testing and liquidity v energy drinks
These are terrifying times we are living in
Don't feed the pigeons.
They they will shit all over you.
When times get tough they will peck your eyes out.
Some folks lied: many other folks died (slowly). Nothing new under the sun, except now society rewards the liars and thieves with high office and enormous bonuses.