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Citizen Patrols Return To Central Park After 26% Jump In Crime, Mayor de Blasio Blamed
Until recently, the "socialization" of New York under newish mayor Bill DeBlasio mostly involved snowfall snafus, exploding manhole covers, giant sinkholes in the middle of the city, and boycotting NYPD cops. The rest was mostly still on auto pilot, and as a result, worked. However, slowly but surely, even the mecca of crony capitalism where at least 1% of the population has never had it better, is starting to succumb to the general economic malaise of the second great depression. Case in point, crime in Central Park is up 26% this year, which at a time of record wealth, gentrification and all time high stock prices, should be unheard of.
It also confirms that not all is well with the "recovery" propaganda.
Here are some of the relevant NYPD crime stats through Aug. 9:
- A 100 percent increase in robberies so far this year — From 11 in 2014 to 22 in 2015
- Grand larceny is up nearly 14 percent, from 29 in 2014 to 35 this year
And with de Blasio avoiding the ugly reality literally in the middle of his city, the Guardian Angels have resumed crime patrols for the first time in 20 years. Many park-goers said they were happy to see them. Some even posed for pictures with them.
According to CBS, the increase in robberies and other crimes this year has Guardian Angels founder Curtis Sliwa calling it a “mugger’s delight” and he wants Mayor Bill de Blasio to do something about it, CBS2’s Marcia Kramer reported Monday. “The mayor, he’s impervious to it. He’s oblivious,” Sliwa said. From CBS:
The Guardian Angels want to take Mayor de Blasio on a tour of Central Park to show him what they see every night.
“He acts like, ‘oh, but it doesn’t indicate it in the stats.’ He needs to leave Gracie Mansion and City Hall and stop worrying about the future of the world and start worrying about the here and now of our city,” Sliwa said.Their patrols are mostly at night, but when CBS2 cameras followed them Monday — and it was daylight – there were still some scary moments.
Not surprisingly, Sliwa, who is also a conservative radio talk show host, laid the increase in crime in Central Park squarely on the mayor’s doorstep. "It’s no question that the cops no longer rule the park at night, and if they don’t rule the park at night they may not rule the city at night and that means the thugs, thug life will rule," Sliwa said.
One such example was homeless man with his pants seen cinched below his underwear, running around and screaming. He was drinking openly from a liquor bottle. City laws make it illegal to drink alcohol in public spaces like parks and streets.
“That gentleman that you have on video, imagine if he would be in the rambles or a secluded area,” Guardian Angel Ben Garcia said. “Out of nowhere he pops up and starts screaming. Someone could get a heart attack and God forbid he decides to rob that person."
It could get much worse.
And the truth is that while crime may have jumped in recent months, it is still a far cry from 2 decades ago. Since 1994, overall crime including rape, robbery and felony assault is down 80 percent. During this same time, the number of visitors has climbed to 40 million a year. The likelihood of being a victim of crime in Central Park is roughly 1 in 350,000 visits or so.
So for now there is no reason to panic, however if the current trend persists, and if at least one resident or visitor is violently mugged or, worse, killed in Central Park, that may mark the moment when NYC's gentrification officially went into reverse.
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NYC became safer because the government went full retard and started frisking first and asking questions later. So what say ZH'rs about this? Good or bad?
If frisking means helping me urinate in the street because it is time to go then no harm no foul. Otherwise, racist.
- freedom from police state
- security in exchange for freedom
Let the citizen serfs carry CCW guns.
Any America everyon is mugged by the government every two weeks so it's no big deal.
"A liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet"
I thought it was "a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been attacked by evil terr'ists on 9/11 yet."
Let NY decide how they want to live...just allow them the opportunity to defend themselves if their legal protections are going to be removed. DeBlasio wants to shut down the police AND prevent people from defending themselves.
This isn't suicide, its murder.
Yep, I totally agree with holding cops accountable...
But don't completely neuter them! That's insane.
That's what they're doing in Baltimore,
And NYC is doing the same...
With similar exploding crime rates.
Libs that support this might as well just move to Mogadishu...
Because that's where your city is heading.
> Second amendment open carry
> Mexican style gun control
22 robberies in a city of 8 mil?
From 40 robberies/grand larcenies to 57 such incidents on the police blotter. Wow, a real crime wave in a city of over 8 million. 411 emergency workers, including 343 FDNY firefighters, died in the World Trade Center attack. Maybe DeBlasio can reopen the 9/11 investigation instead of promising action on women with painted breasts in Times Square. Nah, that won't happen, not with "Broken Window" Bratton as the Police Commissioner there to block any investigation into the actions of his treasonous NWO friends.
False dichotomy. The police state is an energy policy, a physical energy price hedge.
Freedom? Just how legal is it to carry a gun in NYC without the good will of the police?
Yeah, didn't think so. It's all a charade.
'So what say ZH'rs about this? Good or bad?'
Oh No!, a civil rights quandary...
This is what happens when the cops go off strike.
I don't think that is true. My guess is that there is a strong correlation between NYC's economy and crime. Thugs (technically fascists) like Giuliani and Bloomberg had little to do with anything. Oh, and to answer your question, I'd say unequivocally bad. As a rule, totalitarian fascist behavior from your police enabled by your local government is bad. I'll take the small-time criminals any day.
Downvotes and no comments. Pussies!
If you look at NYC in vacuum, it is easy to falsely correlate any individual policy (such as stop and frisk, like Rudy the shyster and billionaire Bloomturd did) to any increase or decrease in crime. But if crime is going down nationally over the same period, does a bear actually shit in the woods? Why not blame Cuomo and the NY SAFE Act (instead of deBozo) for the recent rise in crime in NY? Economics is a big driver of crime, but there are also demographic and social changes over time that drive crime, as well as statistical and policy manipulations by the authorities, and risk/reward calculations by the criminals (getting stolen credit cards online or bilking the taxpayer often offers far more upside and less jail if caught or something goes bad). Somethings just don't reduce (over simplify) to linear arithmetic well, unless one is a politician looking to scam the simple minded sheeple for votes.
I say , since no one in NYC can legally carry a gun then your ass is at the mercy of criminals. Leave the city vote that shit out or suffer, cause its coming for you.
New Yorkers get what they deserve. Everyone who voted for that buffoon deserves to be mugged
So government force is good? Funny, I thought you proclaimed anti-statism as your philosophy. I would have thought (if I were naive) that you would think it's cool that the private guys are back and that government has backed down.
I've noticed lately you've taken the "you must be a closet-statist hypocrite" route when it comes to using force against predators. Any special reason for this thinly veiled support for government police being rousted from their habitual pastime of eating donuts, killing the wrong people, checking parking meters and writing traffic citations around the perimeter of Central Park instead of, ya know, going in and cleaning the predators out?
Maybe you haven't been reading the posts here lately.
Perhaps.
We'll both be clear to each other soon enough, if we aren't already. The thing is, people like me have never needed or wanted a regimented society, we only tolerated it until others broke "the rules" we knew were an illusion to begin with and showed their duplicity to that scheme.
We didn't build that ;-)
In all honesty, I'd say De Blasio had many Unionized votes long before the Diebold machines were even plugged in.
Mayhaps governmental unions should be outlawed? The Opiate of the working masses?
Everyone wants their cake, and to eat it to, Knuks.
Progressives want your cake and to eat it too.
Seems libertarians want the security cake and eat the liberty cake, too.
My posts above create a false choice. There's more than one cake.
Libertarians want their Constitutional right to be armed you little fascist.
I am a vocal proponent of the 2nd amendment. I don't think it's the answer to all things, however.
You're a vocal proponent of a lot of things as I recall.
Maybe you've "evolved" ;-)
I haven't evolved at all. I just don't have black and white ideology, so to you my posts seem contradictory. For example. I'm in favor of self-arming and the 2nd amendment. I'm also in favor of a publicly funded police force, and court system. I'm also in favor of a Constitutional form of government that places checks and balances on the police and court system.
"I'm also in favor of a Constitutional form of government that places checks and balances on the police and court system."
as long as its populated by progressives.
Ummm... No. The current progressive party needs to be hung by long steamed rope until dead in a public forum.
You know, it's the job of your overlords to confuse you?
"I haven't evolved at all. I just don't have black and white ideology, so to you my posts seem contradictory. For example. I'm in favor of self-arming and the 2nd amendment. I'm also in favor of a publicly funded police force, and court system. I'm also in favor of a Constitutional form of government that places checks and balances on the police and court system."
So why is it apparent in so few of your posts?
This country has morphed into a giant 'amalgamas blob' of self centered, politically correct hermaphrodites.
I can't tell the difference between Libertarian, or Progressive anymore.
We'll all find out soon enough, when the meal tickets get served and it's time to pay the Piper.
I'm thinking{hoping} TRUE Libertarians, not the pussified RINO progressives, are better at building shelters and smoking meat.
Love you, man.
There are many overlaps between true progressives and true libertarians. There are also important differences. If we're lucky, one day when we're both alive we'll be debating between these two philosophies instead of the current paradigm.
Get a room, guys.
I don't need the state to provide for my security and I've never ever called the police. For anything.
In fact I avoid them like the plague.
I fear them a lot more than I fear a common criminal, who I can shoot legally.
However I cannot legally resist unlawful action from a blue hero.
That's my deal.
Progressives ? No such thing they are Alinsky Communist murderous sons of bitches every one of them.
Every-Fucking-One-Of-Them.
Never trust them, ever.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Fucking government lovers.
Progressive is a new term for socialist.
And plugged...
Embrace the suck NYC...DeBlasio won with 70% of the vote.
And don't want to hear your fucking excuses about low voter turnout.
NYC sucks hairy monkey ass
I escaped. Period.
2 years free here
It ain't that good bro.
1.8 million New Yorkers were being stopped and frisked per year under fascist mayor Bloomberg. Those were 1.8 million cimes per year against the Constitution. No one counted those crimes.
A poor economy may be contributing to the increased crime rate.
It speaks to increased income inequality. Traditionally dismissed in American politics as a "socialist" talking point, many now discover that a deteriorating working class and middle class is, in fact, detrimental to their country's economy.
Always a pleasure to junk you, Leninsson. It is you socialists, always flitting around like busy bees on your way to the communist hive, who relentlessly attack the middle class.
Why does he have an avatar with a black man eating a white baby?
Because he is in COMPLETE denial (+1).
Subconsciously representing what's happening to Sweden by their own suicidally atruistic hands?
Yep.
Wrong again. Criminals go where they feel welcome-- doesn't have the slightest thing to do with "income inequality" or other socialist bullshit agenda-driven generalizations. Say what you want about Giuliani-- I didn't like him when I lived there-- he did a great job making street criminals feel unwelcome in the Borough of Manhattan. On the other hand, he made the Wall Street criminals feel extremely welcome. You take the good with the bad I guess.
Of course, with clowns like Warren Wilhelm III (aka DeBlasio), it's all bad.
Nice to see the fuckwad commenting. And I thought maybe he made the world a better place by managing to go to hell.
I come from really, literally dirt-poor people. Far poorer than the freeloaders in the FSA have ever dreamed of being. But, crime in their communities was unheard of. Crime has nothing to do with income inequality and everything to do with a morality-free, entitlement mentality.
The government contributed to the poor economy which contributed to the high crime rate which contributed to the unconstitutional panty raids. Fuck Deblowsiyo communist government shit for brains.
When people are stealing food and medicine, maybe then we can talk of the influence of poverty on crime...unless of course you are referring to the poverty of moral values. Crime indicates much more about values than economics.
Please feel free to also point out that poor people have trash piled in their yards because they are too poor to pick it up and put it in a can.
Over priced shit hole. Within it a vast number of FSA, active workers who cannot sustain the costs of living and liberal politicos. Gee, what could possible go wrong. San Fran as well.
Those folks from the buddy ranch would be up there if he just asked. Have several victorys under there belt I've read.
now THAT is progressive
This isn't anything Serpico can't fix.
"The true story about an honest New York cop who blew the whistle on rampant corruption in the [mayors office] only to have his comrades turn against him."
"New York, New York. I won't go back. An indelible reminder of the steel I lack, I gave you seven years, what did you give me back? A jaw grind disposition to a panic attack." - The Incumbent
'The likelihood of being a victim of crime in Central Park is roughly 1 in 350,000 visits or so.'
I have more chance of being robbed by the people I work with.
You are more likely to be killed by The State.
Ironically states have killed more of there own citizens than any foreign invaders. 140 million killed by their own leaders last century. Your govt is not your friend.
or your doctor
Progressives as they like to call themselves ARE SOLELY to be blamed for this BS - in EVERY American city run by progressives (liberal Democrats) - crime is UP and they're in financial straits. COME ON PEOPLE, WAKE THE FUCK UP!!
Who the fuck red arrowed that? Who is fucking with my reality? Who did that? I will personally rip your head off and shit down your throat! Who red arrowed that?
- MGySgt Hartman
Libs like to "junk-n-run"...
They don't like to have to explain themselves...
Because they know they'll always lose the argument...
To anyone who has at least 2 active brain cells.
a simple GySgt will suffice
homeless man pops up screaming and causes a heart attack? it was a great read until that gem, wtf?
Choot em!
I noticed that the "gentleman" in the the park and everyone in the mugger part of the video were from the same tribe... what are the odds!?
racist coincidence
Haven't you heard? It's the relentless white racism, violence toward, and persecution of blacks that causes it and every white deserves what they get because slavery.
Wake the fuck up!
/s
Bring back Mayor Lindsey. I read he was a real Gem.
When you don't support police officers, they tend to not be around much. Baltimore crime has skyrocketed. Same in Charlotte.
I support police officers. Yes, some are bad apples, but most I know are decent men and women trying to enforce the rules.
What is it with ZeroHedgers? So many seem to be against police in general.
I support our LEO and Military. Liberals hate them. They will be the first to be executed during our civil war.
LEO and Military has lost much of my support, but, I despise leftists. The police are no longer really protecting the law abiding, they've read between the lines and now protect the most vile and filthy. Without police, the vile and filthy wouldn't be much of a movement.
Its what happens when law breaks down. Cops feel they have no support from the public so they are fully in a self preserving mode. Politicians are capitalizing on police violence as a divisive wedge.
It will get worse.
Too many simple people who want easy classifications of their friends and enemies. Rather than accepting the need for law, while also accepting that we are all flawed, that there are no absolutes, that we must remain vigilant in the protection of our rights...and our government. We must hold our government to high standards, without throwing out the baby with the bathwater. As with anything we want to sustain, we must reward positive behaviors and punish bad ones, as there is no system or society that can survive without these motivators.
Because the military has done so much to uphold their Constitutional oath against the banksters since 1861. Sheep who commit homicide and suicide for the bankster elites. Every war is a bankster war.
The propagandists and perceptions management cadre turning out to give the site itself a bad name. Used to attack individuals but found that was like pissing on Trump. Got the opposite reaction. This way, being anti-Semitic, racist, intolerant, lawless, gives the entire site a credibility problem. They simply want ZH to go away.
So if there are enough crazy assed comments here, if anybody says they read it or regularly read or reference ZH, then they're the crazy people, not to be believed.
Standard propaganda methodology. Alinsky type fare
The flaw of fight club. Senseless violence rather than pugilistic pursuit for perfection.
Some times it feels like a place some people come to take a shit.
You can always opt out? Taxes, not so much.
Many have. always a consideration.
there seems to be two types;
Those who seek debate to exercise their perspectives
and those who simply want to impose their views and shout down opposition.
What society lacks is conversation and debate. We have plenty of people screaming at each other. But no one is listening.
Thanks for explanation. I've been wondering WTF happened to the site. Some real crazed posters on here.
I've noticed the same thing - Failure to protect the property and the brand; define yourself or others will do it for you.
Sometimes it seems the Tylers are careless or willfully self-immolating.
Police need to be on the beat. Driving from call to call is failure unless it's rural.
Donut shop's a good place until they change mayors.
I think if you study it, it's not the cops. Ask yourself who's responsible for what happens out there. When bad cops are let off. Typically, people might focus on the bad cop. But somebody higher up isn't doing their job.
Their not gonna be there weather in better times or worse. Baltimore is genocide enacted by themselves.
If you get rid of the niggers along with the cops, then that's two less groups that will have a chance to vicitimize you.
Why does it feel like law abiding productive people are getting it from both ends? From the diversity, and from the officialdom and all their fraud backed by violence schemes, like speed traps, parking tickets, permits, fees, licesnes, et al?
Because they are. Both sides hate the honest workign man and do their best to destroy him. And they have their sychophants in the MSM telling the working man it's his own fault he's being destroyed.
Blame it on soda and cigarette bans. Progressive failure in the makings. How's that no gun zone working out? What? You need more police but can't pay the pensions of retired police force.
NYC is a giant Ponzi Scam.
22 robberies in Central Park does not seem all that bad considering the number of people in the area. Actually, I'm surprised the number is that low!
We can change that statistic to 23. We will have you robbed. Then you can boast about getting robbed at gun point. It happened to me in New Orleans.
Had I carried a gun. The nigger would have been dead on the sidewalk.
Your number 23.
Got it! My number is 23. Next time I'm at the roulette wheel...
"the "socialization" of New York under newish mayor Bill DeBlasio"
Newish rhymes with?.....ding !!! that's right folks. ;-) /sarc
Maybe a crack squad of cops who have a 007 designation can jsut go around and relputieve the homeless out of their misery.
007 lisence to kill....
Is your name Bond?
OT: Let the fun begin ... https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/3hi22k/data_from_hack_of_ashley_m...
I say let NYC sink to its natural level. The Gotham of EBT and the .01% isn't my cup of tea. I say let them have each other, for real.
Stop and frisk was happening in areas like D'Bronx and Bushwick....Brownsville, East New York. They were not stopping and frisking suits on Wall Street or tourists in Times Square. I know correlation ain't causation, but I think the economy and chaining back of cops has given criminals more leeway to do their thang. Homeless tripled from my entry to my egress. Glad I'm out. It'll get worse.
Have you remained in the Northeast?
It is a shame that they were not stopping and frisking at Broad and Wall Street, 33 liberty street (NY Fed) and 200 west Street (goldmans HQ).
Back to the Koch/Dinkins days, when the city was "edgey"!
No guns, more crime. Weird
Up the pooper for all New Yorkers. They love it, they really do.
just more flavor
Of course crime has skyrocketed. Chirlane McCray, the real mayor of New York, has seen to it her gelded husband won't enforce the.law against sun people.
The Warriors made it through Central Park @ night. So can you.
Stop and frisk, rule of law. When thugs don't respect the rule of law, you get stop and frisk.
Forget about pro active police work. In light of political environment. However as they pull back,the no 2nd Amendment right cannot fill the pullback. Oh well.
"If you can make it here you can make it anywhere..."
So that's what they meant....
ah the New York City Socialite scene is livening up as the old stand by philanthropy tribe adds to there wine list https://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/bum-wine-comparing-wild-irish-ros... Hey Sliwa Puerto Rican debt crisis bond criminals are about four and a half miles down 6th.
Good let the city ROT. These locusts got what they voted for...once the city is urine soaked they will want to move to a red state near you.
If you look at the top Zip codes that provide MOST of the leftist funding to the Democratic party, you will see many come from commie NYC. All those 10xxx are NYC ZIPs.
Let them ROT!!!
I come from really, literally dirt-poor people. Far poorer than the freeloaders in the FSA have ever dreamed of being. But, crime in their communities was unheard of. Crime has nothing to do with income inequality and everything to do with a morality-free, entitlement mentality. I have heard young members of the FSA, who have never worked a day in their life, say, "I be retired. I don't gots to work. Dey owes me." That's what liberal, progressive government has wrought, massive moral hazard among tens of millions of totally worthless, unskilled (except in drug dealing, prostitution and violent crime) and unproductive people who are nothing more than wards of the government.
Truer words were never spoken.
I could not care less about crime in NYC. All media, including ZH'ers only focus on east coast crap.
Actually, I think it is just great that crime rates spike in the bastion of criminal financial banksters.
Until normal NYC'ers start stringing up WS Banksters, I say let NYC'ers relish in the crime-hole they have enabled.
We don't need "citizen patrols." We need armed vigilantes.
If thugs and gangs were put down like rabid dogs, the problem would eventually be controlled.
Corzine?
Thugs that wear 5000$ suits are far worse than ones that have their pants hanging around their thighs....
Which one of the Corzines are you saying should be shot by the police and/or vigilantes to equal the thug shooting that has already occurred?
Do we get to vote on that?
The steroid-addled cops don't like competition.
Expect these patrols to come under assault not by common gangbangers, but by the gangbangers in blue.
NYC and the USA as a whole are nothing more than a Roman outpost before the fall of empire... Live it, Learn it... Keep your ammo dry, yo.