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Cyanide Thunderstorms Feared As Mystery Deepens Around $1.5 Billion Tianjin Explosion
The story behind the chemical explosion that rocked China’s Tianjin port last Wednesday continues to evolve amid fears that the public could be at risk from the hundreds of tonnes of sodium cyanide stored at the facility.
More specifically, Monday’s heightened concerns were related to the possibility that rain could interact with the water soluble chemical, releasing deadly hydrogen cyanide gas into the air. "First rain expected today or tonight. Avoid ALL contact with skin," a text message purported to have originated at the US Embassy in Beijing read. The Embassy would later deny the message’s authenticity, perhaps at the behest of the Politburo which has kicked off the censorship campaign by shutting down hundreds of social media accounts for "spreading blast rumors."
Despite efforts to preserve order and clamp down on discussion, the anger in China is palpable as citizens demand answers as to how a catastrophe of this magnitude could have happened and as it turns out, not only was Tianjin International Ruihai Logistics storing sodium cyanide in amounts that were orders of magnitude larger than what they were supposed to be storing, but they were apparently doing so without a license. "The company has handled hazardous chemicals during a period without a licence," an unnamed company official said on Tuesday. Apparently, Ruihai received the licenses it needed to handle the chemicals just two months ago, BBC reports, citing Xinhua.
Meanwhile, it looks as though determining who actually owns Ruihai will be complicated by the fact that in China, it’s not uncommon for front men to hold shares on behalf of a company’s real owners. This is of course an effort to obscure Communist party involvement in some enterprises and as FT reports, "that seems to be the case for Shu Jing and Li Liang, who appear in State Administration of Industry and Commerce records as holding 45 and 55 per cent of Ruihai International Logistics." "Both Mr Shu and Mr Li told Chinese media they were holding their shares on behalf of someone else," FT adds, "but would not say who."
Here’s more from FT:
Licensing to operate a hazardous goods warehouse is not easy to come by, and Ruihai Logistics’ operation seems to have been approved after neighbouring lots had already been auctioned to residential developers.
Adding to the speculation, Tianjin’s online corporate registry database was inaccessible for four days after the blasts. When access resumed on Monday, a search for Ruihai Logistics yielded a curious gap.
The company was registered in 2012 but its current legal owners only bought their shares in 2013. The historic list of changes that should have reflected the previous owners did not appear.
The records reveal that many Ruihai executives are former employees of Sinochem, the giant state-owned chemicals, fertiliser and iron ore trader that owns the largest hazardous warehouse operation in Tianjin.
You get the idea. And although we’ll likely never know the true extent of the Party’s involvement with the company, local residents are furious, as evidenced by protests near the blast zone on Tuesday morning, which means Beijing must at least pretend to be serious about investigating the incident. In an effort to pacify the country’s censored masses, party mouthpiece The People’s Daily said 10 people, including the head and deputy head of Ruihai had been detained since Thursday. As Reuters reports, Yang Dongliang, head of the State Administration of Work Safety, is also under investigation:
China said on Tuesday it is investigating the head of its work safety regulator who for years allowed companies to operate without a license for dangerous chemicals, days after blasts in a port warehouse storing such material killed 114 people.
Yang Dongliang, head of the State Administration of Work Safety, is "currently undergoing investigation" for suspected violations of party discipline and the law, China's anti-graft watchdog said in a statement on its website.
The agency, the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection, did not say that Yang's behavior was connected to the explosions in the port of Tianjin but the company that operated the chemical warehouse that blew up did not have a license to work with such dangerous materials for more than a year.
While Beijing is busy engineering a smoke screen to appease the locals, thunderstorms are rolling into the area, which, as noted above, is bad news as the hundreds of tons of water soluble sodium cyanide are now exposed to the elements. Here's Xinhua:
Rains are expected to complicate rescue efforts and may spread pollution at the Tianjin port, which was rocked by warehouse blasts last week. China's central meteorological authority has predicted a thunder storm over the blast site, where hundreds of tonnes of toxic cyanide still reside. A chemical weapon specialist at the site told Xinhua that rain water may merge with the scattered chemicals, adding to probability for new explosions and spreading toxins.
On Tuesday, the Tianjin Environment Protection Bureau said it had collected 76 samples from around the blast site. "With regards to the safety levels, in total there are 29 cyanide inspection sites [and] of them, eight exceeded safety levels [with] the largest reading was 28 times over the safety standard," said Bao Jingling, the agency's chief engineer.
Indeed, some have observed what's been described as a "white foam" on the ground.
And as for the forecast, well, things don't look promising:
Finally, the first estimates of the damage are beginning to trickle in and while we won't know the full extent of the human toll for quite sometime (if ever), Fitch puts the financial impact of the blasts for Chinese insurance companies at between $1-$1.5 billion. For anyone out there who's long (or looking to get short) the Chinese P&C space, here's Deutsche Bank's take:
Based on reported data, PICC was the largest P&C player in Tianjin with 28% market share in 2014, followed by Ping An at 23%, CPIC at 12% and Taiping at 5%. Tianjin is a relatively small market for listed insurers, accounted for 1.2% of 2014 premiums for PICC, 1.8% for Ping An, 1.4% for CPIC and 4.1% for Taiping.
We note that it may be too early to assess ultimate losses from this event as it generally takes time for all claims to be filed. However, assuming losses are shared based on their respective market share in Tianjin, we estimate that every Rmb1bn ultimate loss, PICC’s 2015E combined ratio could increase by 12bps, Ping An by 18bps, CPIC by 14bps, and Taiping by 32bps and PICC’s 2015E net profit would decline by 1.6%, Ping An by 0.5%, CPIC by 0.8% and Taiping by 1.2%.
We maintain our relatively cautious stance on Chinese P&C insurers as we expect underwriting profitability to be under pressure in the next 6-12 months amidst auto premium deregulation, potential increase in competition from online players and a tougher comp in 2H15E.
It also looks as though the government could be on the hook for tens of millions of yuan in insurance claims for injuries and deaths. The full Fitch statement is below.
And meanwhile:
Tianjin city sells 376m yuan of 3-yr bonds at 3.38%.
China’s Tianjin Sells 1.46b Yuan Special Bonds in Placement.
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Full statement from Fitch
The insured losses from a series of explosions at a chemical warehouse in Tianjin on 12 August are likely to be material for Chinese insurance companies, potentially exceeding USD1bn-1.5bn, says Fitch Ratings. The high insurance penetration rate in this area could make the blasts one of the most costly catastrophe claims for the Chinese insurance sector in the last few years. While the incident is still developing, Fitch expects the number of reported insurance claims cases to surge further in the coming few weeks.
Fitch believes that claims from the blasts are likely to undermine the financial performance of some regional players and those property and casualty insurers with high risk accumulation in the affected areas. That said, it is too early to determine the exact impact that this incident will have on the credit strength of the Chinese insurance sector as a whole.
According to the China Insurance Regulatory Commission, non-life insurance premiums from Tianjin city amounted to CNY11bn (USD1.7bn) in 2014. As such, should insured losses come in at the high end of the initial USD1-1.5bn estimate, they would represent about 88% of total direct premiums written in Tianjin or roughly 5.4% of aggregated shareholder capital for the six most active issuers at end-2014. PICC Property and Casualty Company, Ping An Property & Casualty Insurance Company of China, China Pacific Property Insurance, China Continent Property & Casualty Insurance, Sunshine Property & Casualty Insurance and Taiping General Insurance are the most active insurers in the region, accounting for more than 77% of the non-life segment as measured by direct premiums written.
Claims from the blasts could be shared with both local and international reinsurers, which could mitigate the direct impact on the Chinese insurance sector. While insurers could recover a portion of their property claims from their reinsurers, their exposure, the amount of retention and the number of reinstatements under the catastrophe reinsurance program are likely to determine the degree of severity to which they are affected. Fitch estimates that the overall risk cession ratios of major non-life players active in the Tianjin region range from 10% to 15%.
Chinese media have reported that more than 8,000 vehicles were destroyed by the explosions. Claims from motor insurance could impair insurers' margins and capital if their reinsurance protection is marginal and the degree of risk accumulation within the affected region is significant. Aside from motor excess of loss treaties, in which the reinsurers indemnify the ceding companies for losses that exceed a specified limit, it is common for Chinese insurers to use quota share reinsurance treaties to mitigate their solvency strain due to the strong growth in recent years from the motor insurance book of business.
The majority of claims will come from motor, cargo, liability and property insurance. However, medical and life insurance claims are also likely to be substantial. Victims of death and injuries are covered by a government-supported accident insurance plan for the Tianjin region, in addition to their own medical and life insurance policies. Each injured person who is insured by the government plan can claim compensation of between CNY20,000 and CNY35,000, depending on the extent of injuries while compensation of CNY50,000 will be paid in the event of death.
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Well, he's smelling sulphur all the time now.
And, look, look, there's a zionist under my bed.
OMG, there's one under that bed too.
There's never just one...
There are 40 under your bed too?
Lived and worked in china for 6 years and with logistics industry. I could have wrote this story without knowing what happened, and its happening everywhere, in every port, every bonded zone and many mfg sites.
I could have wrote this story without knowing what happened, and its happening everywhere, in every port, every bonded zone and many mfg sites.
While what you are saying is probably true this story is going to get interesting when they find out that strong security measures weren't in place because other foreign interests were involved. All I could think of was the announced sale of American ports to Dubai 4 years after 9/11 and the outrage that followed... Not forget the "jewel in the crown" and poster child of potentially being held hostage by a foreign government in the physical security of your commerical nuclear reactors when you outsource that job to someone with a track record for bad behavior like this!...
Call it uncanny timing with the massive short selling that was taking place which led to the lock down on foreign investors and then the PBOC's decision to modify there fixed exchange rate policy in light of those developments!
Yes indeed. The story of "how" and "why" will come out sooner rather than later given the timing and the circumstances.
Chinese justice is quick and harsh. I would not want to be an executive at this company.
They're all in Vancouver by now.
They better wax those cars over there.
A little poison now and then: that makes for agreeable dreams.
After watching the most recent video of the explosion it's clear that there was plasma present in that explosion. According to Wikipedia plasma can be created under these circumstances...
"A plasma can be created by heating a gas or subjecting it to a strong electromagnetic field applied with a laser or microwave generator. This decreases or increases the number of electrons, creating positive or negative charged particles called ions,[2] and is accompanied by the dissociation of molecular bonds, if present. "
If you haven't seen the latest video here it is, it is incredible. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=china+explosion+video&ia=videos&iai=cO1q3HwB0y0
We wait for retaliation?
Fire, in it's simplest forms, is plasma.
In the beginning they said that acetylene was created which would actually may make sense but that explosion was peculiar. Certainly there may be other causes that have a similar affect but if you have ever spent much time with a plasma cutter it is unmistakable. I'm not suggesting that they are lying I am just curious about what went up.
This is also interesting.
"Electrical arcs, when well controlled and fed by limited energy, produce very bright light, and are used in arc lamps (enclosed, or with open electrodes), for welding, plasma cutting, and other industrial applications. Welding arcs can easily turn steel into a liquid with an average of only 24 DC volts. When an uncontrolled arc forms at high voltages, arc flashes can produce deafening noises, supersonic concussive-forces, super-heated shrapnel, temperatures far greater than the Sun's surface, and intense, high-energy radiation capable of vaporizing nearby materials.
Arc flash temperatures can reach or exceed 35,000 °F (19,400 °C) at the arc terminals.[2] The massive energy released in the fault rapidly vaporizes the metal conductors involved, blasting molten metal and expanding plasma outward with extraordinary force."
Making a 21 tons of TNT equivalent arc is not easy. Easier is 21 tons of TNT.
Hell a normal rain in China can probably kill you
The French sell a "serum" to combat the effects of cyanide poisoning when firemen or victims ingest the fire vapors. This might add to
French GDP. Go long croissants.
China = Superfund cleanup site on a national scale.
But there's no convincing Jim Rogers.
*Edit: I can still hear mainland students in grad school telling me "China is the country of the future!" with all of the zeal of a new convert to Irish Catholicism.
"China = Superfund cleanup site on a national scale."
It is a shame China didn't learn from America on this one. The long term effects on the environment and people are going to be very bad. Last time I checked there were still a huge number of active and pending cleanup sites in America.
Less than a gram of Potassium Cyanide will kill a 160 lbs. individual in 3 days.
Starving every cell in your lungs of Oxugen.
You'll die of suffocation before necrosis of the lungs.
There is no cure.
Looks like Bio-warfare to me.
It doesn't spread like a virus.
I don't know how long it takes to go inert.
But a good rain should get it out of the atmosphere.
But then you have to worry about drinking water and crops.
Whoah, that is heavy!
Imagine trying to breathe with an elephant sitting on your chest.
Many will die of heart attacks and stokes as they struggle to breathe.
I knew some of the folks over at Union Carbide responsible for India's sacrifice.
Demons feed on human suffering and blood sacrifices.
Satan is sparing the United Staes for the big one (6).
Nothing a little methylene blue can't fix.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylene_blue#Cyanide_poisoning
Makes your pee blue though.
You have 3 days or less.
Any side effects of soft tissue that is already dead?
Seems like the China Insurance Regulatory Commission (CIRC) will soon be CIRCLING the drain. Especially if Li LING is shown to be an owner.
1 to 1.5 Billion, whats a 1/2 billion when guessing eh.
There are rumors spreading in China that the whole disaster was engineered by the former boss Jiang in the hope of one decisive last fight against Xi. Jiang's maneuver involved some of his supporters in the Chinese military. The warehouse where shit hit the fan belonged to the company that is owned by a current Politburo member, who represents Jiang in the Politburo. Xi and the current Politburo members were supposed to have their annual (highest-level Party policy) meeting in the Xinhai Harbor area by this week. Xi scared shitless. Rumor says he suffered from insomnia for two days after he got the news. As a result, Xi has silently replaced some top PLA generals in the last 48 hours. A guy claiming responsibility turned himself in. Jiang's American educated billionaire sons are under investigation and Jiang himself is under a house arrest.
Well, Drudge would know if Xi had insomnia as he is Keeper of the Chamber Pot for the Chinese Leader.
When running a criminal syndicate, having some schmuck/scapegoat hold the all the shares in a company to hide the Communist Party involvement is standard operating procedure in China. The Chinese Communists have never been communists but are more akin to Red Fascists.
Asian Bolsheviks.
Fuck Yellen!
Anyway/
With a rod
Man, I hate cyanide thunderstorms!
Smells like.....victory...(but not for long)
It is interesting that the tragedy is expressed in terms of money rather than lives expected to be lost from cyanide poisoning.
Automobiles mean more than children's lives.
If that's not demonic, I don't know what is.
That Chinese blast look familiar? If not check these out.
Blast in Homs syria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6c6DO_T5Q
blast in Yemen
http://www.silverdoctors.com/did-the-saudis-or-israelis-just-detonate-a-...
I don't know therefore Rod of God.
If the Chinese turned to Jesus on this tragedy, God will punish the perps.
I promise you.
The Roman Catholic Church has nothing to do with Jesus.
Pray like a Protestant.
Yet it took Christianity (Martin Luther) to discover that first and only Church of Christ (Holy Roman Church) wasn't? 1600 plus years?
BTW, the Asian Times has nothing about the industrial 'accident.' At least in the first 30 plus stories.
http://atimes.com/category/asia-unhedged/
I'm vexxed.
I guess China doesn't need to scare their people into submission.
They have already surrendered to the government.
You know, I hope, this is what our government wants too.
Correction:
If the Christian Soldiers would take a moment to consider the unfolding events, they'd find that each and every time a maneuver takes place which Israel finds offensive and considers as interference, there is a MAJOR explosion which looks hauntingly similar to a nuclear bomb going off!
Human beings are being killed to advance a hellish agenda - The crazy bastards want the world and us off of it. And it has nothing to do with God and everything to do with a deep-seated and daily fertilized hate. Ground zero is The Jewish State of Homocidal Maniacs and Neurotic Self-Glorifying Freaks.
Did anyone notice the searing of the cars in the lot?
Some are totally untouched, some half-and-half!
Just like 9/11.
Just an observation.
Same as the cars in the streets on 911.
I did notice that.
Looks like a DE weapon was used.
US is playing with its new toys.
The Chinese should know the satellite responsible.
Star Wars next?
"Just like 9/11"
So what?
It strikes me as a phenomena. A sort of singularity where the causations might be similar in nature. It need not necessarily be an intentional result the incidents do approach the theoretical point of occurrence being of scientific interest as to what interconnections, if any are present.
For instance it is well known that electromagnetic energies in high concentration can alter atomic particles flight patterns and thus modify the structure of the substance so impacted. The resulting action, in this case an explosion, might be of greater magnitude than otherwise envisioned or thought not possible.
The unknowns in this incident are what was/were the catalysts and their proximity to one another under what environmental conditions (heat, magnetic influence, compression, ancillary chemicals and industrial materials and/or liquids) might prove worth analysis.
The unique signature of the two events is amazing even if coincidental or circumstantial.
As an engineer, my curiosity is aroused.
It is an intellectual pursuit of physics, not politics.
Hey, here's a chance for ethical US scientists to do some testing on real people.
For God's sake! I sure hope they had a license.
Maybe a little cyanide will help remove the lead and melamine from your system.
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China, the Hollow Dragon
August 17, 2015
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogaug15/hollow-dragon8-15.html
Excerpt:
In terms of profitability and trade-generated wealth, China is a hollow dragon.
In effect, China has been running a loss leader manufacturing economy without developing global profit centers in shipping, insurance, banking and trade finance--the source of big profits in every modern trading empire.
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And with that huge "accident" waiting to happen just four miles from the new financial center being built, the Yujiapu Financial District replica of NYC's financial district, all it would take would be a little "push."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yujiapu_Financial_District
As a little hint that it wasn't an accident, start a huge oil fire on the Moscow River only nine miles from the Kremlin on the very same day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C16Qhx7OEZE
...
Just to be sure.
Com on whats the big deal. Just another day another cluster fk in China
meh
I SAID when this thing happened ... the whole incident will be engulfed in a swirling mass of Conspiracy Theories. Those theories will run the full gamut ....
from massive insurance fraud ...
to internal Party politics in China ....
to agents from North Korea ....
to foreign espionage by either Russia, USA, Israel or Europe ...
to enormous negligence of hazardous materials storage.
I have no idea how the Chinese will sort this out. But I am prepared to bet that someone gets shot, and people do jail time.
I don't see how insurance companies can handle these massive claims. Some of them will go bust.
Many more will be shot than do jail time if they deserve to be shot.
That is one beautiful thing about China
Conspiracy theory # 479. Saw some before and after Google photos , I think posted at investorwatchblog.com showing that at the point of impact, no such warehouse to explain origin of explosion, and that the impact looked like that of a kinetic weapon, with central mound and radial stress fault lines, not consistent with a surface based explosion.
Take it from there.
If it is sabotage, China's statements about the explosion and the owners and insurers of the facility are only Chinese investigators intentionally barking up the wrong tree to put at ease any perps who have not yet fled the country.
Also what was the industrial sodium cyanide demand in China YoY since 2010?
Did it justify holding such a large stock at one facility?
There's a video from the Tuesday before the blast of a large fork lift putting a dumpster in the cynaide warehouse. The dumpster is marked Waste Management and does not appear on the delivery manifests of the facility.
The video also shows several tennis players, with an uncanny resemblance to suspects seen in the lobby of the hotel in Dubai where Mahmoud Al Mabhouh was assassinated.
tell me again why companies need to be watched like hawks? You're not seriously going to try and convince me that the greed motive will eventually lead to something like this are you?
/sarc
Not as big of a mystery as why the buses in China have curtains though? The bang bus doesn't even have curtains, what the hell is going on inside those buses?
Conspiracy believers are convinced,it was sabotage and with many similarities with 9/11
The Dancing Mossads do not operate in China, only in the DC US.
Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity.
Conspiracy believers are convinced,it was sabotage and with many similarities with 9/11
The web is alive with their Mini nuke theory! The US mini nuked China as retaliation for Chinese unfriendly acts as of late.
One thing I have learned after the Large Gulf Oil Spill, in which several web sites sucked me in with all kinds of false claims, I need some serious hard and fast evidence of things before I let the net. bullshit me again.
This vid, 1' 30", filmed from the 33rd floor of a nearby block does look a little bit like sabotage.
http://youtu.be/cO1q3HwB0y0
Just asking
would it not be expected for the biggest explosion to occur first and the second and third to be less powerful? Where did the fuel for the third come from? Why wasn't it consumed in the first explosion.
Somewhere the Mossad is dancing.
Did the U.S. fire the first shot in our war with China? They hack - we attack!
China is an old cat with a hair trigger paw.
Keep provoking it and eventually you'll get hit.
The closer you get.
Just watch the insurance payouts. Connect 2+2 =5 fraud scam.
"It's raining death ...."
"It's Raining Death"
Hellish fumes are rising
Respiratory getting low
According to our blacked out sources
The shelters the place to go
Cause' tonight for the first time
At a Port in Tianjin
For the first time in history
It's gonna start rainin death
It's raining death
Hallejulah
It's raining death
Amen
It's raining death
Hallejulah
It's raining death
Amen
Hellish fumes are rising
Respiratory getting low
According to our blacked out sources
The shelters the place to go
Cause' tonight for the first time
At a Port in Tianjin
For the first time in history
It's gonna start rainin death
It's raining death
Hallejulah
It's raining death
Amen
I'm gonna go out
I'm gonna Get cyanide
Absolutley soaking wet....until I die!
It's rainin death
Hallejulah
It's raining death
Every special death
Tall gaseous, dark and mean
Rough and tough and strong, unclean
God bless Mother China
She's a POS .gov too
She poisoned heaven
And she did what she had to do
She fought every Toxin
To rearranged the sky
So that each and every human
Could find the perfect way to die!
It's raining death
Don't get yourself Poisoned Girls
I know you want to
I feel deadly weather moving in
About to begin
Hear the thunder
Don't you loose your head
Rip off the roof and stay in bed
(Rip off the roof and stay)
It's raining death
Hallejulah
It's raining death
Amen
It's raining death
Hallejulah
It's raining death
Amen
It's raining death
Hallejulah
It's raining death
Amen
It's raining death
Hallejulah
It's raining death
Amen
It's raining death
It's raining death
It's raining death
TIANJIN CHINA DEAD MEAT REVELATION: NO WAREHOUSE AT EPICENTER OF EXPLOSIONS!http://sgtreport.com/2015/08/tianjin-china-no-warehouse-at-epicenter-of-...
Is China reporting this as a US attack on China?
If they aren't using this to strengthen their position, why?
Of course, ZH only gives us one side of the facts.
Who does the average Joe Chinaman think is responsible?
Wouldn't be the first time....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk8dFM5t3lY
There is no average Joe Chinaman.
Only the communist party.
Do you think average Joe Chinaman is possessed of greater insight than average Joe Sixpack?
CronySocialism :-0
"not only was Tianjin International Ruihai Logistics storing sodium cyanide in amounts that were orders of magnitude larger than what they were supposed to be storing, but they were apparently doing so without a license. "The company has handled hazardous chemicals during a period without a licence," an unnamed company official."
Have all the Kipahs been accounted for?
Mossad tipped them off a day before.
Dr Judy Wood says a direct enery weapon was used to pulverise the WTC towers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3VOhVjg8EA
The burning cars in the above video look very similar to those cars burned in China.
I wish ZH would report the Chinese position on the explosion, if it was an explosion.
What was the seismic activity registered on the supposed explosion, and does it make sense?
I'm sure the Chinese know what happened, and who is responsible.
If it happened in the US, we'd be scaring the hell out of people and blamming someone.
Why the media blackout in China?
Jesse Ventura for Vice President in 2016!!!
First night I saw the story I read 2.6 on the Richter for first explosion, then 2.9 on Richter on 2nd bigger explosion.
Late night saw photos and story on Naturalnews.com about possible Rod Gun fired from Satellite. And some analysis quoted crater appeared to have sub-surface explosion which could be consistent with Rod Gun which is designed to penetrate bunkers.(meaning below the surface)
Would be natural for military response with helicopter squadrons in the air and control of the press in case it was a real attack.
Even Ecuador called for martial powers over the press recently due to the Volcanic Eruption.
People do panic, get emotional, tell rumors, pass on false info, which can lead to crimes.
Personally I don't think it is the American way, but here we already have monopoly and government control over the MSM.
If there are any Americans left in the government, they are scared to act in their official capacities.
This is why they need to go covert, without permission, and kill the infiltrators.
If they don't soon, they wont even have their pensions in the end.
Judy Wood is the only "expert" with a clue about 9/11. The whole architects for 9/11 truth dis her work so, as usual they are the controlled opposition. Anyone who reads her book and still sticks with the other narratives has been too damaged by the fluoride.
The zios had used a massive CAT 3 hurricane off the east coast as the fuel source for their weapon. Was there any huge storm off the coast of China that day? Anyone?
So, how long can a Chinaman hold his breath?
Confucius say, "Man who breath cyanide gas soon have dirt nap".
".... but they were apparently doing so without a license. "
so if you pay the gov a fee (license) then the gov will monitor the situation but if you dont get a license you can store 700tons of shit....? who writes this shit? having a license or not has nothing to do with the gov monitoring the situation.
So was there anyone besides drunk Americans that got footage of this? In that crazy explosion footage that guy didn't even seem to flinch during the percussion waves he just stayed steady, you would think that he would have lowered himself or some reflex would kick in. I noticed that the video said "stabilized" but still, must have been wasted or something, strikes me as odd.
Don't we all think first explosions are usually the most powerful? That the first explosion consumes most of the fuel available for a second or third explosion?
Sure secondary explosions can be most powerful. The obvious example of that is an explosion of a nuclear device. There the first explosion, the TNT trigger of a nuclear weapon, is miniscule compared to the explosion it unleashes. And there is no third explosion related to that bomb.
The fire and first two explosions at Tianjin must have been used to create the heat required to detonate the remaining chemicals and cause the huge shock wave seeking oxygen.
The Chinese and the Russians will figure it out and respond.
When people, even owners of such a company, will be charged and found guilty, they could be sentenced to death, life in prison etc.
I don't see that to happen in Murica, even sentenced Ponzi-masters face a better life than billions of human beeings elsewher (whereas 'elsewhere' may also be a suburb in the east of the city).
Sodium cyanide is used in gold extraction.
If the owners of Ruihai will not mention their "silent partner", then the chances are that this is some sort of holding company. And if that's true, none of us will ever know who owns that business, or all the stuff that they were shipping. It was very negligent to have so many hazardous materials in close proximity.
NO Conspiracy Buffs- this is not a nuke or a ultra-tech weapon. If it was, China would have already retaliated with a major strike against a US City, or whatever nation launched the attack.
The crater from the incident is big and deep. It sure makes you wonder if they had explosive ordnance in some of those shipping containers.
I FEEL SORRY for the ordinary people in the high-rise buildings near this disaster. You know what they say about the real estate business - Location, Location, Location !!
What were they going to do with all the cyanide anyway, put it in their "made in china" fine products headed for walmarts?
If you do the math, the amount of cyanide (the "illegal" amount) is about what is necessary for 50,000 troy ounces of gold to be recovered from cyanide leach pads.
The "legal" amount would equate to about 3.4% of the 50,000.
50,000 ounces is a mid-sized heap leaching operation (over a year).
Cyanide is actually quite innocuous. It is shipped in water-tight/air-tight containers. Once used excess cyanide can be changed to a totally non-toxic substance.
Add a 21 ton TNT equivalet explosion and well, things can get a bit different.
Here's a bit of chicken scratching calculations that I did, since I was curious:
Cyanide consumable = $2.75 / gram gold produced. (I could not find a range of cyanide consumable in grams/pounds only in cost).
Na Cyanide costs $1200-$1700/ tonne.
This gives us about $0.85/pound
Folding this back in I get 3.23lbs/gram of gold or ~100lbs cyanide used to produce 1 troy ounce gold.
If there was 700 tons = 1.4 million pounds sodium cyanide.
Dividing the 1.4 million pounds by 100lbs = ~14,000 troy ounces.
This seems reasonable to me for an eventual medium sized heap leaching gold operation.
24 tonnes, the “allowed amount” would recover a paltry 500 troy ounces.
So what goes? 24 tonnes seems unreasonable for a port of entry
24 T uses about 8 heavy containers (~3T/container)
So that gives us about 230 ocean going cargo containers.
It all seems quite reasonable. Now store it to a few tonnes of Ca Carbide, and let water get to the carbide you release acetylene gas. Under the right conditions that can explode and probably did.
Most likely the problem is that the cyanide was not sequestered away from the explosive carbide.
Note: The 50,000 ounces in the prior post was incorrect.
Good work! It's awesome having guys like you around.
CyaNADO
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bullshit
I don't get it.
"A chemical weapon specialist at the site told Xinhua that rain water may merge with the scattered chemicals, adding to probability for new explosions and spreading toxins"
Water + Cyanide = explosions?
And, pray tell.........just how?
No kidding. I am dying waiting for one of my bosses to review the footage, I have sent it to him twice and he can't get it to download and he is busy as hell. He is is fuel expert, chemical engineer, owns multiple mines including gold mines (cyanide), has worked with plasmas and too many things too even list, he is basically an inventor genius. Just in a quick chat he thinks it sounds off, he mumbled something about that not making sense and the more likely types of cyanide that would have been present and Iron cyanide dissapating in sunlight (he talks a million miles a minute).
He surprised the shit out of me by immediately mentioning sabotage (I just described the explosion and mentioned the acetylene supposedly being created through a combination and the concern over cyanide) but he wants to see the footage first and read more about what they supposedly had on site.