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Only The Date Is Unknown

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Via Monty Pelerin's World,

The US and world economies are frauds that are coming unraveled. The Greek bailout is the most recent example of “kick the can down the road” solutions. The US housing bubble was an attempt to cover up/recover from the dot-com bust. Now the US is in a financial bubble engineered to recover from the housing bubble debacle. Soon this bubble will burst. Only the date is unknown.

 

Two predictions can be made with reasonable confidence:

  • The stock market is likely to be halved and that might be optimistic. Only the date is unknown.
  • The economy will eventually resemble the Great Depression. Only the date is unknown.

Nothing is ever certain. An experienced CFO told me at the beginning of my career that “even the impossible has a 20% probability.” In deference to him and years of empirical evidence, I put the the above two events as virtually certain, i.e., an 80% probability.

The Current Problem

Phoenix Capital provided reasons to expect horrible outcomes:dow death cross

  • The REAL problem for the financial system is the bond bubble. In 2008 when the crisis hit it was $80 trillion. It has since grown to over $100 trillion.
  • The derivatives market that uses this bond bubble as collateral is over $555 trillion in size.
  • Many of the large multinational corporations, sovereign governments, and even municipalities have used derivatives to fake earnings and hide debt. NO ONE knows to what degree this has been the case, but given that 20% of corporate CFOs have admitted to faking earnings in the past, it’s likely a significant amount.
  • Corporations today are more leveraged than they were in 2007. As Stanley Druckenmiller noted recently, in 2007 corporate bonds were $3.5 trillion… today they are $7 trillion: an amount equal to nearly 50% of US GDP.
  • The Central Banks are now all leveraged at levels greater than or equal to where Lehman Brothers was when it imploded. The Fed is leveraged at 78 to 1. The ECB is leveraged at over 26 to 1. Lehman Brothers was leveraged at 30 to 1.
  • The Central Banks have no idea how to exit their strategies. Fed minutes released from 2009 show Janet Yellen was worried about how to exit when the Fed’s balance sheet was $1.3 trillion (back in 2009). Today it’s over $4.5 trillion.

The cumulative effects of decades of interventions to mask economic weakness are harmful to the economy. Statistical manipulation and outright lies in government reporting of economic conditions suggest that times are becoming ever more desperate for the political class. There is not enough bailing wire in the world to hold this train wreck in check. Nor is there any way to solve the massive problems created over decades.

Mac Slavo believes we are already in a world-wide depression stating:

With stock markets in China having self destructed, Greece and Europe in another crisis, and corporate earnings for some of the world’s biggest corporations showing lackluster performance, it should be clear that the situation is rapidly deteriorating.

But for the last several years America has appeared to remain fairly insulated from overt crisis. We were told that a recovery had taken hold, jobs were returning and consumer confidence had reached new highs, propaganda which drove millions of investors back into stock markets and real estate. No one in the mainstream world, it seems, believes there’s anything to be concerned about.

 

Except there is.

Nassim Taleb described the problem:

Uncertainty should not bother you. We may not be able to forecast when a bridge will break, but we can identify which ones are faulty and poorly built. We can assess vulnerability. And today the financial bridges across the world are very vulnerable. Politicians prescribe ever larger doses of pain killer in the form of financial bailouts, which consists in curing debt with debt, like curing an addiction with an addiction, that is to say it is not a cure. This cycle will end, like it always does, spectacularly.

Each intervention has been bigger than the previous one. And they are needed more frequently. Bad times are here and have been despite what government says. Worse times lie ahead. Only the date is unknown.

Government is helpless at this point. Their cover-ups have made matters worse. When the unknown date arrives, America will likely look like some third-world country. Its political system may not survive.

Welcome to Venezuela with nuclear weapons.

 

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Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:35 | 6440013 Dubaibanker
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The date is known. It is : Sept 15, 2015!!

SHEMITAH EXPOSED: Financial Crisis Planned For September 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkELgi6EkNo

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:36 | 6440040 Perimetr
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It will start about the same time that World War 3 begins in Ukraine

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:46 | 6440102 Santini Air
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Get right with Satoshi....

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:19 | 6440272 nope-1004
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G0at R1der, Fonestar, whatever...... give it a rest already.

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:29 | 6441038 willwork4food
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September 15, 2015

Ah yes, the blood moon.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:49 | 6441106 new game
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about season opener for small game up here in snota, ha....

hunting tyme, oh yea!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:02 | 6441170 lasvegaspersona
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The world will have reset twice before I draw a tag here in Nevada.

...I hear your odds are better in Zimbabwe...

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:14 | 6441219 turtle
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Beware the ides of September.

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:36 | 6441338 Falconsixone
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Gee that's tough. I'll miss this economy. Oh well, credits should work better since they'll be based on hot air too. Some say the sooner the better (me) but the printer has ordered more ink and there's plenty of paper in the toilet stall so dream on.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:45 | 6441376 Santini Air
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We won't miss this "economy" or this "dollar".  That's the real reason that these F'n rejects on ZH hate crypto... because they know if it's successful that means that the dollar will not ever be backed by gold again and then logically, there is no more reason why an American worker will make more than someone in Indonesia, Taiwan or Mexico.  Your glory days are over... bitch!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:57 | 6441416 Superdave532
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Should have checked your name before I read your comment.. congrats on being this village's new idiot.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:00 | 6441440 Santini Air
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Yep... into crypto since early 2011 and it is the financial story of the century.  So yes, happy to be deemed the "idiot" by some ZH tard!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:44 | 6441629 Crisismode
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So, if you don't KNOW the date,

 

then just GUESS the date

 

and tell us what date

 

you Guessed.

 

Simple, no?

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:51 | 6441657 OC Sure
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"The REAL problem for the financial system is the bond bubble."

 

This is it? This is how the problem is addressed? 

ZH addresses the effect and not the cause?

When the drunken driver runs off the road and crashes into a tree, the event is because of the tree?

Come on, ZH!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:31 | 6441831 Arnold
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Bingo.

got it on the first pass.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:39 | 6442159 J S Bach
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"Soon this bubble will burst. Only the date is unknown."

For my kids, I buy those bubbles that don't really burst.  They just turn into a sticky mess in your fingers when they deflate.  Maybe that's what our self-ordained rulers have planned for us with the markets. (PMs will be the solvent to clean your hands.)

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 02:17 | 6442607 AldousHuxley
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There is no bubble.

Just asset value inflation due to low interest rate.

Fed's math trick to make you feel wealthier so that you go out and buy more stuff you don't need to get the economy running.

 

$100k asset with 10% interest rate will produce $10k in passive income

$500k asset with 2% interest rate will produce $10k in passive income.

 

Still got 2-4 more years until recession.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:10 | 6441701 DeadFred
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I thought we settled on September 11, 2015, didn't we? No the end comes the day after the big earthquake or nuke attack or whatever provides the first real systemic shock. They're remarkably good at propping up the house of cards during low volume and manufactured (and therefore controllable) crises. Everything falls when the first real event happens. I don't have the date for that one <yet>.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:28 | 6442134 MontgomeryScott
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Santini Air

Oh, my FUCKING GOD!

IT has been here for a grand total of TEN DAYS! TEN FUCKING DAYS!

OH, but IT has been worshipping Satoshi since 2011!

When the zeroes and ones turn into plain zeros out there in cyberspace, and the money you stored in 'the cloud' is suddenly evaporated (like clouds do naturally). and the power goes out, and you are sitting behind a blank computer screen trying to place a call on a cellphone that doesn't work to an ISP that went off the air because EVERYBODY lost power, I BET you'll just walk down to the store and try to buy some food using your SHITZ-COIN.

What was that old Hollywood television show anyway? 'Airwolf'? Juvenile pablum filler for the masses of 'families' eating T.V. dinners and sitting in front of the Quad-S programming recievers in the 1970's?

OH, WAIT! The 'super-secret helicopter' has gone in to 'WHISPER' MODE!

NO, It was 'MAGNUM, P.I.', perhaps...

Whatthefuck EVER, you shitcoin peddler.

I, PERSONALLY, have invested in 'ZIONBUCKS'. I have free coupons, if you want to buy a Mercedes from my brother-in-law Bernie out in the valley.


Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:43 | 6442180 Santini Air
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Yes finally some truth!  You and the ZH crew are big into ZIONBUCKS & BENNYBUCKS aren't you??

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 23:06 | 6442253 MontgomeryScott
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You suck cocks like you take it in the ass. Badly, and smelling of shit.

I see that you have a fuck-buddy going along with your 'downvote' bullshit, as well.

Dude can't see the humor in a post. He uses it to denigrade famous Jews in movies (like Mel brooks, semiquoted from 'Spaceballs').

FUCK YOU, you douchebag-using parasite.

FUCK YOU to fucking HELL.

I'll be smiling when you are roasting, and stomping on your fucking head with my steel-toed boots (just to make sure you are fucking DEAD).

How's that shitzcoin peddling going tonight? Not so good? What a FUCKING shame.

'ME and the ZH CREW'? SERIOUSLY?

I'M NOT a 'CONTRIBUTOR', you fuck-faced pimple on a pig's ass.

I see that you want to make this PERSONAL.

Better HIDE under MOMMA'S SKIRT. Gonna be some SHIT happening tonight.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 23:29 | 6442323 Santini Air
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We fuck you shithauser!  You tink we scared of teh vous?  Who teh vous?  You are nothing!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:40 | 6441605 McCormick No. 9
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Your glory days are over too, bitzh. In the coming global depression, who's going to make the electricity? Because, if I'm not mistaken that's what bitcoin is made of.

If there is anything to the shitmitah, then the Zionist Entity will take over the Temple Mount, and according to Daineil 11:45, that's when the shit really hits the fan. Losing all your bitcoin in that sickening instant when you realize you'll never look at an active computer screen again will be the least of your worries. Make friends with Jesus, is my recommend.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:46 | 6441636 Crisismode
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Judging by your response,

 

Jesus is no friend of yours.

 

 

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 02:33 | 6442630 AldousHuxley
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You can't eat Jesus.

 

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 23:42 | 6442351 Seek_Truth
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"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." - Matthew 24:36

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 23:45 | 6442355 Divine Wind
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Oh give it a fucking rest.

There is no possible way under the sun that the U.S. could ever return to a gold-backed currency.

One reason is that the day such a currency is released the world's wealth will attempt to pour in, thus raising the value of the currency.

This will instantly KILL any notion of exports as U.S. products will be far too expensive for nations with lesser currencies to afford.

If the currency is to be traded globally THERE SIMPLY IS NO WAY AROUND THIS PROBLEM.

If you want international trade, your products must be affordable.

Then there is the problem of an economy of limited scale.

You either continue to reduce the amount of gold backing the currency or continue to buy gold to support the creation of new currency.

Failure to do so limits the amount of money in circulation. In turn, this creates massive wealth gaps.

I love gold, have been stacking for years, but do so with a clear head.

But a gold-backed currency?

No freakin chance.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 00:03 | 6442386 Santini Air
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Gold and "gold backed" are two ENTIRELY different things!  And if ZH readers were real Austrians, really had faith in GOLD (by itself) they wouldn't feel the need to have GOVERNMENT put any of their stupid stamps on coins or bills.  But you will hear them speaking, yearning all the time for a return to the "gold standard"!  Like we are too ****ing stupid to see where they are going with that one... lining the grand kids up for another chance to kick the gold-paper-gold-paper scam another generation or two!  Too fucking bad, after 1971 and the SCAM you pulled on the world nobody is going to care what you say your currency is "backed" by!

Your "Dollar" is fucking DEAD and is not coming back!  GOOD!!!

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 00:28 | 6442447 Santini Air
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Nothing to say eh?  You bunch of fawking fake scam shyster shit lickers?

PS ~ I like GOLD, like real actual GOLD and not your "gold backed" fucking bullshit empty government promises....

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 03:18 | 6442675 Divine Wind
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Considering you have been a member on this forum for less than 2 weeks and given your angry tone,
I think it is safe to presume you are nothing but a troll here to stir up trouble.

As such, I fart in your general direction, request that that you please return to the EuroTrash hole from
which you emerged, and bid you farewell.

I have nothing more to say.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 04:14 | 6442703 Lore
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@ Divine Wind - Your previous post gibes perfectly with what I'm hearing lately about "Economic Quarantine."  Posturing to the contrary notwithstanding, the agenda is NOT to create one measure of exchange for all.  It's to undermine the dollar sphere. America will need to regain competitivity post-haste or sink into a kind of post-modern third world. It's going to be violent and disruptive, but fascinating.  Will you take back your system from powerful psychopaths?  Stay tuned!

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 08:06 | 6443031 Divine Wind
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Very interesting post.

I wonder if this is this is why why Trump has risen on the scene so feverishly?

 

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 08:24 | 6443081 Memedada
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There’re very few thing more boring than ‘debating’ with a person that makes up the arguments of his/her opponent.

Concentrate on your own arguments – if you have any. And stop wasting time making up other peoples’…

 

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 15:08 | 6444707 Countrybunkererd
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I wasted my time on it.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 15:11 | 6444672 Countrybunkererd
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The concept that when the dollar dies is good for the world shows your limited understanding of GLOBAL trade and nation state economics.  When the dollar dies, so goes the world, even if moderately short term only.  EVERY person will be impacted by loss of capital, jobs, business, etc.  WHO exactly will buy these products made in the far corners of the world when the key buyers are gone and the credit markets that allow these purchases are extinct?  The web of trade requires an acceptable currency all agree upon and I personally for example will not accept the Yaun as payment.  Your unspoken idea that the other currencies will automatically step in is rather foolish, the IMF on the other hand may be able to do it given enough time to print the SDR's and get them to EVERY SINGLE BANK in the world and then into the hands of every single dollar holder in the world...how long does that take?  However long it takes increases the likelyhood of starving to death on a global scale.

- You can already see inventory builds around the world, and the dollar, euro as well others haven't died yet.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:14 | 6441496 Miffed Microbio...
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Not any blood moon but the last of a tetrad. This tetrad is the fourth that has occured on 4 Jewish holidays. Hope you have your bunker well stocked cuz it's all going down!

Miffed;-)

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:48 | 6441647 Crisismode
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This Shemitah bullshit is the very same thing as the

 

December 21, 2012 Mayan Calendar Bullshit.

 

This will also come and go,

 

and afterward there will be yet another

 

bullshit date to pander after.

 

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:05 | 6441711 techpreist
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I'll skip the non-biblcal 'prophecy' and stick with what Jesus said about it.

The times seem about right, but when it happens we will all certainly be taken by surprise. Prepared maybe, but still surprised.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 23:47 | 6442360 Divine Wind
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+1000

That is the best response on this entire thread.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 08:27 | 6443094 Memedada
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I agree. Prophecies are only relevant in the sense that they can become self-fulfilling = someone can actively use them as playbooks.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:33 | 6441838 Arnold
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Nice

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 23:35 | 6442336 Santini Air
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Miffed, your bloody muff would know something about blood moons...

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 00:31 | 6442456 Rock On Roger
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That's low...

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 00:52 | 6442496 Implied Violins
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How the FUCK have you not been banned FOREVER? FUCK YOU and your unhealthy obsession with electrons.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 00:57 | 6442504 Santini Air
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You tink you can ban teh we?  If we were to leave, then vous people would be saying that Bitcoin's most fanatical supporters, teh supreme devotees of Satoshi Nakamoto surrendered and went home!  Well FUCK YOU!  We are still here proclaiming truth, that Bitcoin is by far the STRONGEST currency the world has ever seen and the greatest creation of the 21st Century!

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 01:04 | 6442520 Rock On Roger
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You're really showing off your intellect tonight. You probably should leave, Miffed didn't deserve that remark at all, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 01:19 | 6442539 Santini Air
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Why the hell would we leave?  Surrender and run away from those who have insulted and slandered Satoshi's great creation?  Keep dreaming!!

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 01:24 | 6442551 Rock On Roger
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No, you need to wake up. You've gone too far with your comments.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 01:28 | 6442554 atomp
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Fonestar can't handle his liquor. What a surprise.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 01:51 | 6442577 Santini Air
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fonestar does not drink.  Teh people over on Crypto Coin News and Bitcointalk laugh at you people regularly.  Because you really are a joke...

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 15:15 | 6444737 Countrybunkererd
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Personally, i hope to be "caught up into the air" so to speak.  Whoever finds my "bunker" can have it all at that point. Until then, it is locked tight like my firearms- out of my cold dead hands.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:58 | 6441148 Santini Air
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Why rest?  Bitcoin is still in its early days and we are only getting started.  It's already beat every other national currency price-wise.  The amount of people still not using Bitcoin just serves as an indicator of the massive gains still ahead of us.  If you're sick of hearing about Bitcoin now, just wait 2 or 3 more years...

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:14 | 6441754 countryboy42
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Blow it out your ass Fonestar. I made a bet of a brand new custom rifle with you last year on the price of bitcon. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. I hope that your investment pays off for you, as for me, tools, knowledge, and skills. Will I survive? No one knows, but I have a better chance than your electronic bullshit.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:45 | 6442184 Santini Air
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Fawke you, you tool.  You think Bitcoiners aren't loaded up?  We will be just fine and all our Bitcoins will be just fine with us.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 00:17 | 6442421 Tallest Skil
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How stupid can you possibly be? One hard drive crash or a week without access to electricity makes your collection of 0s and 1s as tangibly worthless as they already are. Anyone dumb enough to think the solution to physical fiat currency is digital fiat currency deserves what is coming to them,

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 00:23 | 6442437 Santini Air
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If you're too fucking stupid to do proper disk backups then Bitcoin is not for vous!  Not for 98% of the rejects on ZH!  And guess what retard, the power is not going out across the entire world fuckhead.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 02:59 | 6442656 Squid-puppets a...
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do you realise what youve just said.

How the fuck is bitcoin going to rule the monetary world if secure use of it is relegated to only reasonably savvy computer people? 

That by definition makes it an untrustworthy medium for transacting for , what, 85% of the population.?

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 09:33 | 6443304 festerd
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"And guess what retard, the power is not going out across the entire world fuckhead."    You haven't been paying attention.  Just so you know, solar doesn't produce squat at night.  Wind turbines don't produce any power unless the winds blowing.  Buy a dozen Tesla batteries, ration and rotate, 'cause reliable, affordable power wont be coming back.  Greenies have the momentum worldwide at the moment, and their agenda's will result in the end of the world as you know it.  At least paper dollars will work for compresses and ass-wipe.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 15:20 | 6444766 Countrybunkererd
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NO!!!!  The "dusseezus" on the dollars will give you one hell of a sore hole, if it doesn't kill you.  Maybe you will get a cocaine high long enough to make your dying less miserable, but still...

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:25 | 6441272 villainvomit
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no joke, nope....is it just me or is it troll season on zh ?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:26 | 6441277 Santini Air
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must be the season of the which?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:14 | 6441498 New_Meat
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they could write a good song about that ...

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:51 | 6442188 MontgomeryScott
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THIS IS NOT A TEST, V.V.

You KNEW this day would come.

Paid operatives from the various governmental agencies (sic. BANKSTER CRONIES, TOTALITARIAN POLITICAL HACKS, SMALL NATIONS WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN THE MIDDLE EAST) have been getting the word as of late that ZH is the PLACE TO TROLL (due to the attention that this small contrarian economic blogspot has been getting in the past few weeks via quotations in MSM (as well as the 'greater alternet').

I am still shaking my head and laughing when I read the articles, that quote 'Tyler Durden, via Zero Hedge'.

HOW can a guy who sells soap on a transatlantic flight in a make-believe movie be SO SMART?

I DON'T sell soap (but I play a guy who does, on T.V.). I DO, however, enjoy using soap (when I get dirty).

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 23:48 | 6442362 Santini Air
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put your soap on your favorite dildo you dillhole...

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:42 | 6441079 Yen Cross
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    This fucking clown Bandinishit Air is worse then those, "My Sista makes $8K a month making Donkey Porn in our basement ads."

 This "Phony Star" re-run, dipshit, schizophrenic, delusional, ass~ puppet, needs to be shown the door ASAP!

 Shitcoins are just as sideways, as everything else.

 BTC/USD    245.01    -0.99    -0.40%

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:55 | 6441129 Santini Air
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Oh ya... Bitcoin is ONLY $245 USD today!  Wow, talk about shitty performance... outdoing all national currencies thousands of percent in five, six years.  What morons we were for buying them!  If only teh we could go back in time and put it all in silver, yielding what?  NOTHING?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:01 | 6441157 Yen Cross
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  You can't even make a coherent argument.

 You're so far off base, I'm tempted to think you're off your meds. and lost in the "boiler room" of your local psychiatric facility.

  Seriously? Do you work for a used refrigerator dealership?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:05 | 6441186 Santini Air
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Bitcoin was less than $1 USD in 2009.  Today it is $245 USD.... do the math fool. 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:19 | 6441236 Yen Cross
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  Do the math you fool! Who said anything about about metals?

 You were so caught up in Satoshi land you never learned how to diversify, you IDIOT!

 Gold and Siver are insurance policies, and stores of wealth. Your shitcoins are cyber trinkets.

 2009 was almost 7 years ago moron. Do you think that Shitcoin is going to replace the security of a nicely placed "boat wreck" when it all happens again?

 Idiots like you, try so had to convince people that you way is right, that your brains never leave the station. Yes, shitcoin has been trading sideways for almost 2 years, with a downward bias.

 So if some people were so fortunate as Fhoney Star, who's been evicted fron Zero Hedge multiple times, to have purchased shitcoins at 99 cents or what ever back in 2009, I'd say you did well, and have probably T/P on most of the trade.

 Phony Star isn't a trader. He's just a little self centered cultist, that want's to cash out higher than his average buy in. He knows nothing about diversification or finance.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:24 | 6441268 Santini Air
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You were too fucking dense to understand Bitcoin in 2009, 2010, 2011 and you are too fucking dense to get it today.  You "alternative financial experts" missed out on the most radical, highest yielding investment of the new millenium.  And rather than STFU, read something and understand WHY BTC is $245 USD today, you continue on with your moronic SHTF fantasies.  Guess what? SHTF does happen sometimes and nobody is going to be worrying about silver, gold or Bitcoin during it.  Typically those episodes last a few weeks or months and life goes on including technological advancements.  Good to know you are not thinking long term!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:31 | 6441294 Yen Cross
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 You're head is like a fucking piece of granite. Albeit,the granite is probably smarter.

 You can always tell the asshole in the crowd. They're the one that won't quit trying to prove their point.

 I don't care if Shitcoin was free in 2009. Do you know how to read?

 It's trading sideways down over the last 2 years, and you're buyin average is probably higher than that. MORON!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:32 | 6441315 Santini Air
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Bitcoiners have been right so far, those who stick it out long-term and will continue to be right.  And most Bitcoiners also own gold & silver so have no fucking clue what you are talking about not "diversifying" (diworsifying?).  Yeah, some people are actually bright enough to be able to own multiple things at the same time!  Public "education" victim... DURRRRR!!!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:54 | 6441670 McCormick No. 9
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Bitcoin fanatics make the same mistake as gold-bugs: ie the assumption things will more or less, basically stay the same. Both positions are buy-ins to the status quo.

When the massive google (and other corporatist/globalist maintained) server farms go down, due to the fact they sit at the APEX of a massive industrial infrastructure pyramid built on invisible things like sulfuric acid and coal production, which in turn is balanced in a teetering pin called the global financial system, who's going to give you your fucking bitcoins? How are you going to dig them out of the silicon matrix?

At least gold is real. But gold's store of value is itself linked to a continuation of the status quo. If everything becomes unhinged, and everyone's at the very bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy, then it becomes suddenly clear gold has a major flaw. The shit is indigestible, and has no caloric value. In that reality, gold's worth is very, very relative, as in just how fucking hungry are you?

What's really real? Not bitcoin, that's fer-sher. Gold's real, but it takes civilization to give it value. I'll say it again. What's real is cattle, arable land with water at the top of a watershed, extended family (there's no ally like a blood ally), and lots of guns n' ammo. The Bundy's have all of these, and no-one's fucking with them.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:48 | 6442193 Santini Air
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How is gold any more "real" than Bitcoins?  Are they both not made up of electrons?  Seriously, like arguing with a bunch of fucking juvenile grade 2 students... don't even understand the difference between "real" and "corporeal".  I insist that you stop using the "unreal" operating system you use to type such gibberish!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 23:39 | 6442266 erg
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The lunatic on the other hand... “There are four kinds of people in this world: cretins, fools, morons, and lunatics…Cretins don’t even talk; they sort of slobber and stumble…Fools are in great demand, especially on social occasions. They embarrass everyone but provide material for conversation…Fools don’t claim that cats bark, but they talk about cats when everyone else is talking about dogs. They offend all the rules of conversation, and when they really offend, they’re magnificent…Morons never do the wrong thing. They get their reasoning wrong. Like the fellow who says that all dogs are pets and all dogs bark, and cats are pets, too, therefore cats bark…Morons will occasionally say something that’s right, but they say it for the wrong reason…A lunatic is easily recognized. He is a moron who doesn’t know the ropes. The moron proves his thesis; he has logic, however twisted it may be. The lunatic on the other hand, doesn’t concern himself at all with logic; he works by short circuits. For him, everything proves everything else. The lunatic is all idée fixe, and whatever he comes across confirms his lunacy. 


Umberto EcoFoucault's Pendulum

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 08:42 | 6443133 Quick
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"There are four kinds of people in the world"

 

Which one are you ??

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:00 | 6441694 Crisismode
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I think you two need to get a room.

 

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:18 | 6441774 DeadFred
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Hopefully a soundproof one.

<and no internet>

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 15:41 | 6444812 Countrybunkererd
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Tell me, with REAL data to support schitcoin, how they can withstand multiple attacks from these few entities below:

FBI-

CIA-

MI6-

China-

Russia-

You really think that any single one of these entities CAN NOT see you type in your password to your account?  Idiot.

That exculdes collapse, private hacking, power supply, et.  At least if you have a dollar or a rea metal coin you can buy, trade, and sell without electricity.  THE ONLY REASON that you still have your e-trinkets is because nobody wants to waste time on them because the moment that a hack is made public, the value drops to less than the dog biscuit in the front yard.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:18 | 6441240 turtle
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And bitcoin over USD1000 in 2013.... that's a 75% loss.... should have bought gold!

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:34 | 6441324 Yen Cross
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  Yes you should have, and gold is forming a base, and probably a decent buy at these levels.

 This shit head "Phone Star" gets loaded, and thinks he's Superman on his keyboard, and just talks drivel.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:37 | 6441336 Santini Air
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You're a fucking reject like most of the people, shills & fed stooges on this blog....

People have options now and don't need to fall for your paper/gold/paper/gold/paper/gold/paper/gold generational shit scam anymore.  Dollar is dead, you're dead, fuck you and fuck your "dollar"!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:47 | 6441385 Falconsixone
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Writing the same articles for 6 years has gotten boring. Feds, people, shills don't give a shit anymore (they left).

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:24 | 6441538 New_Meat
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never fails, push on a newbie and, well, you get a squish answer that makes no sense.  Push a skosh' more and ... well evidently ... you get name calling and no argument, just fu this 'n' fu dat.

So, Santini Air, all of 1 week and 3 dayz, I give u a reddie.

you are welcome.

- Ned

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:43 | 6441875 Arnold
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Mr Santini has had many less than fruitful lives here.

 

Hindi evidently.

Next anaerobe!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:09 | 6441724 techpreist
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You're a fucking reject

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.

- Socrates

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 00:50 | 6442492 Rock On Roger
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I wonder if Heywood is paying attention?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:39 | 6440863 WhackoWarner
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nope.  Way too much awareness around that.  WW3 (the sequel)  is already going down.  And has been for a while.  I THINK, and my thinking goes back to the collapse of the towers and everything since then.

 

Ukraine was an attempt.  There will be another far reaching staged devastation.  Something that will blow "resistance" away.  All this is just rehearsal or test case...now to amped up.  Towers collapse?  Ukraine?  trial frigging smoke signals to see.

 

Would have been happy if all the people had aligned with the planned agenda but they did not.

 

I agree in many ways with the Daily Bell that the internet openess of information is a major concern/impediment. 

Why it is being attacked.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:56 | 6441139 general ambivalent
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Ukraine getting really bad now. On top of the shelling there was a car bomb which reportedly took out a separatist commander. And a Financial Times piece again pinning all of the separatist moves as if they are Russian paramilitaries with direct ties to Putin, as if he is commanding the attacks (even though the separatists are defending the borders right now they are making it sound like the separatists are attacking and doing all the shelling, in breach of the cease fire).

Could explode any moment. Right now it does seem like the separatists want to take Mariupol. But to anyone paying attention it should be clear that this is where they ended off, and are just picking up again because of the Ukraine Alliance offensive.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:16 | 6441233 general ambivalent
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Also, media reports that separatists attacked a gay rights group in Odessa. You know that will be used for serious spin, true or not.

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2015/08/18/ukrainian-court-bans-pride-ma...

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:28 | 6441288 turtle
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You know what they say... "If you can stand the shit, I can stand the pain."

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:59 | 6441433 All_Your_Base
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the gay rights group?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:42 | 6440061 Pine Trees
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" Financial Crisis Planned For September 2015"

 

That's the only way it's ever coming down.  Until its "planned" it's just more clowns outta the clown car. 

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:31 | 6440312 MaxMax
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When the FED mispriced the cost of debt by keeping interest rates at/near zero, they guaranteed that a lot of debt would be created for ineffient and inappropriate uses.  I am sure the FED thought that some of the debt would be created for virtous economic investments, but I think most of the debt went for things like leveraged buyouts, corporate consolidation, keeping un-economic businesses alive, distorting equity values, building billionair apartment houses, etc. 

That's one problem with being arrogant enough that you think you can manipulate the economy. 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:41 | 6440080 dufferin
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They'll blew something in order not to blame the 'ecomony'...

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:52 | 6440139 Arnold
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Some algo wrangler will call in with the bird flu one day..............................

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:45 | 6440881 WhackoWarner
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Oh something will blow big time.  Stocks? Bonds?  yeah will be blamed elsewhere  on the BIG blow.

 

9/11  2.0  tripled.  May your higher power give you courage to live through what is coming.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:47 | 6440111 OldPhart
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I don't know...the elite seem to have this thing about dates and anniversary's, so I'm thinking Friday, 9/11/15.  Gives them the weekend to close the banks, do the bail in, and sweep the safety deposit boxes.  For our protection, of course.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:55 | 6440153 Arnold
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That's terrorism Old, not financi...................

 

Oh wait....

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:05 | 6440207 Arnold
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The Early Fall meme is starting to catch fire, only a couple of weeks away now.

If the Financial world liquidity implosion is put off only four weeks , then someone will have the time to institutionalize a bunch of us as delusional before the Christmas season really gears up.

Back to school has been a flop, Halloween has started their displays, Thanksgiving/Christmas, the middle of September.

They may call me deficient with good Justification, but at least I am not trying to retail the Holidays.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:48 | 6440890 WhackoWarner
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OK ask who is planting this meme?

 

And when it does not occur?  But the friggin dips.

 

When memes "catch fire"?  Come on.   Think for yourself please.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:59 | 6441914 Arnold
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Thinking for you at bargain prices there, Waco.

 

When the che(que)k clears in two weeks I will be more than happy to tell you how smart you are.

 

(snikker)

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:01 | 6440178 Fester
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Exactly what I was thinking.  Go Merica

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:09 | 6440218 Implied Violins
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I'm thinking 9/11/15 will be more a massive false flag event, with the banks and Wall street being shut down like before, plus martial law, with the massive economic crash a side effect. Not even time to get out and get our last dollars out and stock up - the troops will already be in our faces.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:36 | 6441057 serotonindumptruck
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Perhaps. My only question would be:

How are those troops expected to be paid?

Worthless dollar bills, or just the proceeds of their rape and pillage of the masses.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:44 | 6441086 Implied Violins
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Mind control and peer pressure, unfortunately, works even in the absence of fiat and common sense.

Our best hope lies in those who have been part of the system, but learned better once they got out: the veterans. Maybe some of them will have some sway with the active troops. I think we will soon find out, though I pray for a miracle.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 15:55 | 6444891 Countrybunkererd
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When all but the "prepared" are starving, say 99.98% of the population, the line to be in the military in order to have bread and bologna sent to their families will be as long as the line to McDonalds in Moscow in the 1980's, unfortunately.  I know from middle level military (3 of them in different branches-active) personnel that at least 40% of them WILL absolutely side with the civillians... but without equipment.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:40 | 6441355 jcdenton
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Guess what really happened on that day. (besides the groundbreaking for the Pentagr ..................... er, I mean the Pentagon ..

https://youtu.be/O44nNzRa81Q

It is actually called Rosh Hashanah (Feast of Trumpets). In 2015, this ends on 9/15 ..

YHVH has this incredible sense of humor, that Morgenstern apparently plays along with. It is one thing when you poke Caesar in the eye. It is quite another when you poke the Creator's eye. And mankind has been poking his eye far longer than Pontifex Maximus. So, we get what we deserve .. (even the innocent are affected)

And we (in America) are called -- "the consent of the governed?" I guess we asked for it ..

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:40 | 6441861 Crisismode
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9/11/15 it is . . . . over to you.

We will be checking back in with you on the morning of 9/12/11 to see what went wrong with your prediction.

 

 

Until then, via con dias muy comprade.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:40 | 6440652 Squid Viscous
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If I don't agree am I anti-Shemitac?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:22 | 6440786 Sudden Debt
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I received a list about all this and a lot more, and it was better than what this little stupid youtube clip.

Even then I knew that it would land into some youtube guy who would make a vid out of it with advertising credits.

He missed the entire structure and it's badly made. All it does is create fear and it cut away the positive sides.

Stop living in fear, you'll always find something next to be scared about.

And now the crisis is also a reason to talk about demons and angels and the devil?!?! 

Has hoolywood dominated everybody's way of thinking this much already??

Do you know how many end of times predictions there have been in the last 15 years alone?!?

Every 3 to 4 months there's a new one. And if they run out of scripts, they bring out "the emp" "the solar storm"... and wd'll all live in the middle ages!!

Yeah... even the most basic kinds of technology would allow a 50's style of living. But all the smart people will die first right?

Stop living in fear man, get a grip! 20 years from now, there will still be idiots making video's about tomorrows end of the world.

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:56 | 6440923 WhackoWarner
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You advocate no awareness sir.

 

End of times?  ignore it or read with critical thought and deal with the info.

 

Would you rather watch the collective brainwash?  Somewhere here people need to get out of TV and start to seek knowledge and think.

 

End of times predicitons?  Well sir how many "buy the dip", Run us into debt, consumer fallacy, corrupt politico, "corporations are people",  secret trade deals  do you wish to ignore?  YOU say stop living in fear?

 

I say stop living in illusions.   

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:07 | 6442033 Arnold
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Waco, Untill your ch(que)k clears I can't defend your stupid ass.

How do you want me to handle this?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:48 | 6441387 jcdenton
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In warfare, [a healthy] fear is what keeps one alive. If one has no fear, you will soon be dead. And yes, we are at war ..

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:03 | 6442019 Arnold
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Nice.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:00 | 6441695 brucekeller
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Lucy's passport expiration was 8/24/15, that shit is less than a week away!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:32 | 6442146 xcehn
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"Economists Brace for September: Building Up to Catastrophe of Historic Proportions”

"Jeff Berwick, Canadian entrepreneur and editor of The Dollar Vigilante, recently told Gordon T. Long in an interview: “There’s enough going on in September to have me incredibly curious and concerned about what’s going to happen.”

[…]

Doug Casey, [head of Casey Research said] “With these stupid governments printing trillions and trillions of new currency units,” Casey, describing the US Federal Reserve’s quantitative easing program, “it’s building up to a catastrophe of historic proportions.”

[…]

Gerald Celente, [founder of Trends Research said]“You’re going to see a global stock market crash… There’s going to be panic on the streets from Wall Street to Shanghai, to the UK down to Brazil.”

“You’re going to see one market after another begin to collapse.”

[…]

Larry Edelson [Research Director for Weiss Research said] “On October 7, 2015, the first economic super cycle since 1929 will trigger a global financial crisis of epic proportions. It will bring Europe, Japan and the United States to their knees, sending nearly one billion human beings on a roller-coaster ride through hell for the next five years. A ride like no generation has ever seen. I am 100 percent confident it will hit within the next few months.”

http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/08/economists-brace-for-september-buildin...

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 08:46 | 6443144 RougeUnderwriter
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LOL - I just watched that viedo yesterday.  Seem like the are a lot of red flags coming due in Sept / Oct

 

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 08:48 | 6443145 RougeUnderwriter
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The Bricks have fallen but we will rebuild

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:32 | 6440016 ratso
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There is no end to the doom and gloom fantasies drawn in graphs.  It just one endless road of happy horseshit.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:33 | 6440023 MATA HAIRY
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no man knoweth the hour

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:09 | 6442038 bid the soldier...
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but a bell ringeth at the top

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 08:49 | 6443152 RougeUnderwriter
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Comes like a thief in the night

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:34 | 6440028 jakesdad
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wait till prc & middle east realize they've traded a generation of slave labor & tens of millions of years of hydrocarbons for glass beads - the real danger isn't the # of 0s in a # in a computer (i.e. "money"), it's the day our suppliers accept their sunk cost & cut us off...

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:07 | 6440215 Totentänzerlied
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Wait until the world realizes it burned up the equivalent of a few hundred years of the continuous labor of tens of billions of slaves and has absolutely nothing to show for it except a massive unfeedable population and a destroyed biosphere.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:54 | 6441955 Crisismode
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Yeah, but they still get to gas up the Escalade and

drive the little priviledged kiddies to the mall,

so that Daddy's credit card can buy them a couple

new boxes of Air Jordans.

 

Umm, Hmmm.

 

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:53 | 6441123 lakecity55
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That's why Anthony Quinn's character in Lawrence only wanted English Gold Sovereigns.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 00:35 | 6442464 bid the soldier...
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nope

Glasperlenspiel Kung Pao will be all the rage in America's Chinese Restaurants.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:35 | 6440034 KnuckleDragger-X
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Schrödinger's cat http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/Schrodingers-cat So somebody open the box and check, I'll be here behind this blast wall while you do it.....

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:37 | 6440050 ddsoffice
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The article on Amazon's pressure cooker and mostly abusive work environment combined with the knowledge that it is a highly leveraged company functioning in it's own 'bubble economy' leads me to think that it is a microcosm and harbinger of things to come.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:42 | 6440081 KnuckleDragger-X
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The problem with Amazon and other companies like them are the fact that their accounting practices are entirely opaque......

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:43 | 6440083 dot_bust
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Excellent point! I agree.

Amazon seems to be bumping into the law of diminishing returns.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:23 | 6440270 Arnold
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Naw, they've got so many ideas in the pipline from their employee population , with a few that are able to implement them, that short of the Carrington, they will go for a good long while.

My Amazon purchases seldom come from inventory that Amazon has to carry, other than the Kindle stuff.

GAAP vs NONGAAP well I don't run in those circles, But I remember having to 'make a profit'  one year out of 5 to keep the .gov auditors away. Very old knowledge though.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:39 | 6440063 wmbz
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I'm gonna say October 7th. 2015 @ 2:33 & 1/3 A.M.

Of course I may be incorrect!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:43 | 6440084 Tallest Skil
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I'd say between September 13 and 28 as the starting point. It'll last years, however.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:13 | 6440517 TheReplacement
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I still say that 12/21/2012. Something happened that day that changed our course.  Most of us, perhaps even those directly involved, are not aware but it happened nonetheless and the old age ended while a new one began.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:04 | 6440734 Implied Violins
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For thousands of years before that day, we were on a train in a narrow mountain tunnel going full-speed ahead. On that day, we emerged from the tunnel into broad daylight, but...the rails were gone, as was the bridge. The question now is: do we learn to fly before we hit rock bottom?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:14 | 6442060 Arnold
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too vague for me

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 16:16 | 6444973 Countrybunkererd
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On 03/11/11 the world changed forever.  They like their odd numbers, apparently God does as well...  for if you read it by adding each group you get the infamous 3 2 2 .  Just sayin'

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:41 | 6440866 Skiprrrdog
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Its gonna happen sometime between now and the end of my life...after that, I do not care..

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:49 | 6440082 SillySalesmanQu...
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In the immortal words of those who have been on here a lot longer than I have...

"this can go on, a lot longer than you think."

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:52 | 6440134 Osmium
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It already has.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:45 | 6440094 Kaiser Sousa
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"Watch money. Money is the barometer of a society’s virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion — when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing — when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors — when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you — when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice — you may know that your society is doomed."

the when is NOW.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:03 | 6440194 negative rates
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Since when is when now?, Well now of course, silly me.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:40 | 6440346 PrintemDano
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Who is John Galt?  

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:16 | 6442069 Arnold
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Got your setup?

Don't galt me bro.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 09:01 | 6443179 RougeUnderwriter
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Have you ever read Atlas Shrugged?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:46 | 6440101 vq1
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if things are the same in december imma be real disappointed. 

 

this status quo is a tough cookie. 

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 16:20 | 6444993 Countrybunkererd
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Don't be too disappointed.  Have you ever witnesses a TRULY starving person?  They will kill you and eat what you have and if you don't have food they will kill you and eat YOU without a second though.  Plan accordingly.

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