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We Are The Government: Tactics For Taking Down The Police State
Submitted by John Whitehead via The Rutherford Institute,
“The people have the power, all we have to do is awaken that power in the people. The people are unaware. They’re not educated to realize that they have power. The system is so geared that everyone believes the government will fix everything. We are the government.”—John Lennon
Saddled with a corporate media that marches in lockstep with the government, elected officials who dance to the tune of their corporate benefactors, and a court system that serves to maintain order rather than mete out justice, Americans often feel as if they have no voice, no authority and no recourse when it comes to holding government officials accountable and combatting rampant corruption and injustice.
We’re impotent in the face of SWAT teams that break down doors and leave toddlers scarred for life. We’re helpless to prevent police shootings that leave unarmed citizens dead for no other reason than the police officer involved felt “threatened.” We shrug dismissively over the plight of fellow citizens who have their heads cracked, their bodies broken and their rights violated for failing to jump to attention when a police officer issues an order. And we fail to care about the thousands of individuals who have been punished with extreme sentences for nonviolent offenses and are forced to spend their lives as modern-day slaves in bondage to private prisons and the profit-driven corporations they serve.
Make no mistake about it: virtually anything and everything is a crime nowadays (feeding the birds, growing vegetables in your front yard, etc.) to such an extent that if a prosecutor, police officer and judge were so inclined, you could be locked up for any inane reason.
This is tyranny dressed up in the official garb of the police state. It is the self-righteous, heavy-handed arm of the law being used as a decoy to divert your attention to the so-called criminals in your midst (the fisherman who threw back small fish into the ocean, the mother who let her child walk to the playground alone, the pastor holding Bible studies in his backyard) so that you don’t focus on the criminal behavior being perpetrated by the government (bribery, cronyism, electoral fraud, slush funds, graft, pork, theft, and on and on).
In the face of such abject injustice, outright corruption and overt inequality, it’s hard to feel empowered to believe the average citizen can make a difference. It’s hard to persuade anyone to stand against tyranny when all you can promise them as a reward is persecution, prosecution and a one-way trip to the morgue. And when the outcome seems to be a foregone conclusion—the government always wins—it can seem pointless, even foolhardy, to dare to challenge the system. As such, it’s far easier to buy into the political process, even though elections amount to nothing of consequence.
There are also those who subscribe to the notion that an armed revolution is the only thing that will save America. These armed resistors are making themselves easy targets and will be the first to be taken down by militarized police who are trained to kill and armed to the teeth with every kind of weapon imaginable, from grenade launchers and sniper rifles to armored vehicles and Black Hawk helicopters.
So how do you not only push back against the police state’s bureaucracy, corruption and cruelty but also launch a counterrevolution aimed at reclaiming control over the government using nonviolent means?
You start by changing the rules and engaging in some (nonviolent) guerilla tactics.
Employ militant nonviolent resistance and civil disobedience, which Martin Luther King Jr. used to great effect through the use of sit-ins, boycotts and marches.
Take part in grassroots activism, which takes a trickle-up approach to governmental reform by implementing change at the local level (in other words, think nationally, but act locally).
And then, while you’re at it, nullify everything the government does that is illegitimate, egregious or blatantly unconstitutional.
Various cities and states have been using this historic doctrine with mixed results on issues as wide ranging as gun control and healthcare to “claim freedom from federal laws they find onerous or wrongheaded.”
Where nullification can be particularly powerful, however, is in the hands of the juror.
As law professor Ilya Somin explains, jury nullification is the practice by which a jury refuses to convict someone accused of a crime if they believe the “law in question is unjust or the punishment is excessive.”
According to former federal prosecutor Paul Butler, the doctrine of jury nullification is “premised on the idea that ordinary citizens, not government officials, should have the final say as to whether a person should be punished.”
Imagine that: a world where the citizenry—not the government or its corporate controllers—actually calls the shots and determines what is just.
In a world of “rampant overcriminalization,” where the average citizen unknowingly breaks three laws a day, jury nullification acts as “a check on runaway authoritarian criminalization and the increasing network of confusing laws that are passed with neither the approval nor oftentimes even the knowledge of the citizenry.”
Indeed, Butler believes so strongly in the power of nullification to balance the scales between the power of the prosecutor and the power of the people that he advises:
If you are ever on a jury in a marijuana case, I recommend that you vote “not guilty” — even if you think the defendant actually smoked pot, or sold it to another consenting adult. As a juror, you have this power under the Bill of Rights; if you exercise it, you become part of a proud tradition of American jurors who helped make our laws fairer.
In other words, it’s “we the people” who can and should be determining what laws are just, what activities are criminal and who can be jailed for what crimes.
Not only should the punishment fit the crime, but the laws of the land should also reflect the concerns of the citizenry as opposed to the profit-driven priorities of Corporate America.
Unfortunately, for thousands of Americans who are serving life sentences for nonviolent crimes as a result of harsh mandatory sentencing laws passed by “tough on crime” politicians, the punishment rarely fits the crime.
As I point out in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, with every ill inflicted upon us by the American police state, from overcriminalization and surveillance to militarized police and private prisons, it’s money that drives the police state. And there is a lot of money to be made from criminalizing nonviolent activities and jailing Americans for nonviolent offenses.
This is where the power of jury nullification is so critical: to reject inane laws and extreme sentences and counteract the edicts of a profit-driven governmental elite that sees nothing wrong with jailing someone for a lifetime for a relatively insignificant crime.
Of course, the powers-that-be don’t want the citizenry to know that it has any power at all.
They would prefer that we remain clueless about the government’s many illicit activities, ignorant about our constitutional rights, and powerless to bring about any real change. Indeed, so determined are they to keep us in the dark about the powers vested in “we the people” that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1895 that jurors had no right during trials to be told about nullification.
Moreover, anyone daring to educate a jury about nullification runs the risk of prosecution. Just recently, for example, 56-year-old Mark Iannicelli was charged with seven counts of jury tampering for handing out jury nullification fliers outside a Denver courtroom. Now Iannicelli is not being accused of advocating for or against any case in progress, nor is he charged with targeting any particular members of the jury. Nevertheless, Iannicelli could be sentenced to one to three years in prison because he dared to educate the jurors about an option that no judge or prosecutor ever mentions in court: the right to acquit someone who may be guilty if they also believe that the law is unjust.
Such intimidation tactics proved less successful when used against Julian Heicklen, who was accused of jury tampering for handing out nullifications pamphlets in Manhattan. A federal district court judge found Heicklen not only innocent of the charge of jury tampering, but went so far as to warn that the law—18 U.S.C. § 1504—raises significant First Amendment concerns (“the First Amendment squarely protects speech concerning judicial proceedings and public debate regarding the functioning of the judicial system, so long as that speech does not interfere with the fair and impartial administration of justice”).
Jury nullification has played a significant role in our nation’s history. It was championed early on by John Hancock and John Adams and relied on at various points since then to push back against laws deemed egregious, unjust or simply out of step with the times. Most recently, jury nullification has become a popular tactic to thwart laws that mandate harsh punishments for those convicted of possessing even minimal amounts of marijuana.
For instance, in one case I worked on years ago, a jury refused to convict a 54-year-old man who had been charged with possession of marijuana. Prosecutors claimed that a SWAT team, doing an area-wide land and air sweep, had spotted two marijuana plants growing in the hollow of a dead tree on the man’s 39-acre property. Had the man been found guilty, he would have been sentenced to jail and his 90-year-old mother, blind, deaf and dependent on him for care, would have had to be institutionalized.
In delivering his closing arguments, the prosecutor warned the jury that disagreement with the laws against pot possession and disapproval of police tactics are not valid reasons to nullify a case. Of course, those are exactly the reasons why more Americans should opt for nullification.
In an age in which government officials accused of wrongdoing—police officers, elected officials, etc.—are treated with general leniency, while the average citizen is prosecuted to the full extent of the law, jury nullification is a powerful reminder that, as the Constitution tells us, “we the people” are the government.
For too long we’ve allowed our so-called “representatives” to call the shots. Now it’s time to restore the citizenry to their rightful place in the republic: as the masters, not the servants.
Jury nullification is one way of doing so.
The reality with which we must contend is that justice in America is reserved for those who can afford to buy their way out of jail.
For the rest of us who are dependent on the “fairness” of the system, there exists a multitude of ways in which justice can and does go wrong every day. Police misconduct. Prosecutorial misconduct. Judicial bias. Inadequate defense. Prosecutors who care more about winning a case than seeking justice. Judges who care more about what is legal than what is just. Jurors who know nothing of the law and are left to deliberate in the dark about life-and-death decisions. And an overwhelming body of laws, statutes and ordinances that render the average American a criminal, no matter how law-abiding they might think themselves.
As I’ve said before, when you go into a courtroom, you’re going up against three adversaries who more often than not are operating off the same playbook: the police, the prosecutor and the judge.
If you’re to have any hope of remaining free—and I use that word loosely—your best bet remains in your fellow citizens.
They may not know what the Constitution says (studies have shown Americans to be abysmally ignorant about their rights), they may not know what the laws are (there are so many on the books that the average American breaks three laws a day without knowing it), and they may not even believe in your innocence, but if you’re lucky, they will have a conscience that speaks louder than the legalistic tones of the prosecutors and the judges and reminds them that justice and fairness go hand in hand.
That’s ultimately what jury nullification is all about: restoring a sense of fairness to our system of justice. It’s the best protection for “we the people” against the oppression and tyranny of the government, and God knows, we can use all the protection we can get.
Most of all, jury nullification is a powerful way to remind the government—all of those bureaucrats who have appointed themselves judge, jury and jailer over all that we are, have and do—that we’re the ones who set the rules.
If they don’t like it, they can get another job.
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Finally, an article on ZH about nullification. Outstanding. I have pledged that I would nullify any victinless 'crime' if I am ever appointed to a jury.
Nullification is only secondary to ending the fed.
With you. About the only crime I'd consider convicting would be stone-cold murder, and I'd require extremely convincing proof. But I'm more inclined to nulligy on general principles. As it's said, there is no justice, it is Just Us.
The rape case in which I was a juror included the defendant telling his girlfriend that it was consensual on the jail tapes. His defense was that he wasn't there. His daugher testified that he admitted to the rape and blamed it on being on crack. He tortured the woman for 12 hours and had bleach in his house to clean it up. I went into the trial thinking I would need concrete proof. Got it.
Use jujitsu - run the standard US govt color coded regime change operation against the US govt. All it needs is a sugar daddy, someone with a load of USD they want to use for political gain.
Pretty standard operating procedure for totalitarian governments to pass bullshit laws that will never be followed. This was common in the USSR. Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote about it in his book The Gulag Archipelago (1973).
The fascist overt take over started in the 60’s, Great Society, Vietnam, no gold standard, bussing, Obama is just the latest and only because he is targeting middle class whites in the suburbs is any of this being notice. No on gave a shit in the 70,s when the cities were destroyed. Only when this shit hit the suburbs did anyone care. Fucking sad commentary.
No one stood up in the 60’s and 70’s when welfare took fathers out of the family and no one stood up when inner schools were destroyed by bussing. Well now you have your fascism and it is yours to deal with.
My suggestion to all the sunshine patriots is to wait for Washington goes broke, practice your hunting skills and be ready for the same carpetbaggers that infest Washington to try and find a new parasite host victim in your communities.
Good luck sunshine patriots.
Nonviolent resistance is a path to nowhere in this country. Recall our overthrow in Ukraine where opposing protesters were shot at by snipers we funded. Massive resistance is a pipe dream because no one will show up once the shooting starts. Anyone who believes there are not plenty of ex military at Blackwater who would happily shoot into crowds of peaceful protesters is a fool.
I think jury nullification is a wonderful idea, and I think it is worth doing, but to imagine you can overthrow or even change a government with it is just f****** stupid. Catharsis.
SW I disagree, non violent revolution is a very powerful means of change.
You don't have to show up and protest with a sign, simple non participation in an unjust system is very effective.
Imagine the ramifications and freedoms, if people starting transacting only in cash?
If people starting transacting only in cash and not paying tax? (There is very little representation for the people, so very little tax should be paid)
If people started working for cash?
If people started bartering?
If you grew your own vegetables, collected rain water, had your own septic system and wood stove?
If every citizen was armed.
If you home schooled your children and they actually learned to think!!! instead of regurgitating useless government controlled indoctrination?
If everyone who was disgusted with Israel's war crimes boycotted them and got active in organisations like BDS?
If jurors voted according to their beliefs in what is just and right and not what some corporate sponsored law obligates them to do?
If...
If enough people make these kinds of changes, there will cease to be a corporate sponsored tyrannical government.
Is this legal option available elsewhere? Or only the U.S.?
Possibly an english common-law tradition?
How about choking the bastards off. Stop paying taxes. They can't wage violence against citizens and the rest of the world unless they are funded.
Well, I suppose they could just print more to fund their evil programs. Again it all stems from the fed.
There is only one candidate who is anti-fed and wants it ended. It's Dr. Paul! We need to show the establishment that Rand has the grassroot support. Make sure the MSM cannot blackout his campaign. Support the September 7th moneybomb.
12 minutes well spent
http://rationalinsurgent.com/2013/11/04/my-talk-at-tedxboulder-civil-resistance-and-the-3-5-rule/
Ron Paul: Do We Live in a Police State?
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2014/01/do-we-live-in-police-state-ron-pau...
Do We Live in a Police State? | Ron PaulZHrs already know we live in a police state. This short presentation shows empirically that non-violence is the most effective and successful strategy. Thanks, Man....
Arresting people for feeding the homeless, or killing a man selling cigs. What a disgrace. If I'm on a jury I nullify any vicimless crime. Fuck em.
Until an agent provocateur gets in and everything your peaceful protest hoped to accomplish goes out the window.
12 minutes of bogus "research", confusing correlation with causation. He/she/it points out nonviolent revolutions draw in "risk-averse people" - the followers, but it's those same people that tend to be sheep and want the big government nanny state that the small percentage of the population that is freedom-loving wants ended. And he/she/it hails "democratic institutions" as the measure of victory -- you know, like the US is now (nominally - and you can be sure nominally was all that was measured). So if you're happy with the US because it's a "democratic institution", then perhaps you should be buying what this ugly person is selling. Otherwise, not so much.
All of the successful nonviolent revolution examples studied by this person were likely the sheeply masses (with a low participation rate in actual protests, but still a very large if not majority backing of those masses) "winning". I doubt many (if any) of them were examples of actual freedom being won. (That said, I am definitely not saying achieving freedom via nonviolent means is impossible, just that the video offers zero real support for the idea.) I'm just thinking that if any of these actually resulted in some sort of libertarian state, why haven't I and most everyone else here already moved there?
Even things like women's sufferage and the civil rights movements in the US were abject failures in terms of freedom. Instead of replacing a group-based form of discrimination meant to keep out incapable voters with one based on actual individual capability, thereby improving the quality of voting, representation and laws, they just let everyone vote, decreasing those same qualities, and significantly contributing to the insane state of mob-endorsed tyranny we find ourselves in now. And thanks to forced "integration", instead of a white-hating black-run establishments being able to post a sign that they don't serve whites, I can unknowingly walk into such an establishment and have my food secretly "augmented" as so many ZH'ers were recommending in the gay/cake thread. Thanks for that. Of course, if I want to avoid that, I can just boycott all businesses run by blacks who I don't personally know. Welcome to government (sheeply masses) -created counter-racism.
True, however, the supremes have legeslated that I must now recognize that some may have two.
Next, we should have Obama submit an article on "voter nullification," where the candidate you vote for gets elected and then does the opposite of his campaign promises. From jailing people who reveal his criminality to working with the Saudis and Israelis to spread sharia law throughout the Middle East. Because, after all, Obama is a closet devout Muslim.
Correction - illegal indonesian kenyan alien muslim fudgepacker
As maligned as it is, the jury system is one of the last remaining vestiges of freedom we have in this country. Jury verdicts still carry weight. Twelve people can tell the prosecutor and the entire government behind him to go fuck himself.
This is spot on!!! JURY NULLIFICATION! Learn it....
I've served on two juries. Foreman both times. Sent a really nasty rapist to prison (his own daughter testified against him and she was not the victim). Also found against a plaintiff in a civil case. While I would say that my fellow jurors were mostly not well educated, or all that smart with a couple exceptions, it worked.
I've served on 4. Absolutely a fucking nightmare each time. Most had not one clue what the difference was between fact and argument even with the judge's explanation. Wild emotional displays in the jury room. " Why did you discount his testimony?" " Because I didn't understand it ( based on trigonometry)!" " Ok, let me explain what he said." " No, I care. I think he didn't like the guy and was trying to send him to prison." ( Sigh) " Ok, where is the evidence of that?" " I don't know, I just didn't like him. He acted so stuck up like he was better than anyone else knowing all that science stuff." I had to take a personal time out on that one curling up in a fetal position in the corner.
I did miss out on a rapist case. When we were going to begin jury selection, the judge stood up and excused all the women in the jury pool. All of us were a bit miffed at this so we descended on the first guy that was eliminated. Turns out this was his second trial. He had tracked down a female juror who put him away and threatened her. Mr was thankful I did not get on that case but sometimes I wonder if I could have taken that guy out if he came for me and done society a favor.
Miffed
Good for you for serving. Sadly, jurors reflect our society, but you are proof positive that smart people get seated, too.
We reported all three times, and were rejected all three times (probably) because we are a huge fan of Red Beckman.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PB5adDmAKYo
Every once in a while, ZH brings up a gem.
Thanks, TeamDepends!
I've been called multiple times, but usually get dismissed after pissing away a couple hours in a room full of people. Only one time did I make to actual questioning.
Drunk driver ran over a guy and killed him. It was a lady.
Lawyer: Do you know anything about this case?
Me: Yeah, I helped scrape the guy from the road. And I treated her for a small cut.
Lawyer: Do you know her?
(This is a pretty small town, Port St Joe, Fla)
Me: Yeah, I know her, she's one of my policyholders.
Lawyer: [you'd think I'd be dismissed by now] "Has she said anything to you?"
Me: Well, she told me all about the night she ran over that guy.
Judge: You're excused.
(This was the judge that got shot by Clyde Melvin, and suddenly we had metal detectors everywhere.) A town so small I knew every name mentioned in the article and they knew me. Sheriff was a friend of mine.
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1987-07-29/news/8703030069_1_clyde-melvin-gulf-pines-hospital-gulf-county-courthouse
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That quote is exactly the kind of thing my mother says. And it's all the time - there's no way I could afford to take a time out every time she said something like that. Distance helps immensely these days - thousands of miles of distance.
Don't know nuffin'. Sadly, these are the first words which must....
Hackers release Ashley Madison data
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0QN2BN20150819?feedType=RSS&fee...
Back on topic, i believe that the jury is the last bastion of justice. Nullification is an important tool and should be exercised cautiously.
What does dumping mean? I see no link to the list of names. I don't care about their credit card numbers or email addresses, but would like to see which judges (USSC), MICs, banksters, senators and like are screwing around. Why aren't the names being posted?
It is a torrent, probably containing a large dump, or flat text file from the company's client database. It's over 9GB, so there has to be a few names at least.
It would go a long ways if they got rid of their MRAPs. Mein Gott! If you need zem, call ze National Guard.
MRAPs are huge fire-traps, hugely vulnerable to home-made jellied-gasoline or jellied-diesel fuel Molotov cocktails, that are going to roast a lot of pork.
TM31-200-1 Department of the Army Technical Manual, Unconventional Warfare Devices and Techniques, References
Redneck Engineering at its finest.
http://www.amazon.com/Unconventional-Warfare-Techniques-References-31-200-1/dp/0975900978
It's available for free at these links:
http://www.ganino.com/military_manuals
or
https://archive.org/details/military-manuals?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Shit, take out a couple of hydraulic lines in the wheelwells, and see how quickly that .guvmobile comes to a screeching halt.
I wrenched on Humvees, 5 tons, and LVS's. Remember thaf often times the builders of military vehicles cut corners on designs, and besides, when has .guv ever been about force protection on the battlefield:
I can see why people get worked up about these vehicles being in the hands of LE, however they really are soft targets at fairly close range.
If the glove don't fit
Bullshit. Violence is the only way now.
And I just finished watching 12 Angry Men. I highly recommend it.
Jury nullification does not work anymore. Pretrial questions usually include jury nullification and, in some states such as Arizona, prospective jurors are asked at the end of questioning whether there is anything else you need to tell the court. If you answer no and are selected as a juror, and you vote acquittal due to non-belief in the law, a mistrial is declared and you can be forced to PICK UP THE TAB FOR SEATING A NEW JURY.
I have no qualms against lying to a corrupt, lying system.
Yep. Every jury selection I can remember included a question that went something like this;
At the end of the trial will you be able to convict eeven if you disagree with the law".
I will be able to. I will choose not to.
One thing not mentioned here is the possibility of simply starving the government for revenue and forcing it into (defacto) bankruptcy. Work part time instead of full time. Don't buy expensive things; buy used from a garage sale whenever possible. DIY whenever possible. Remember that when you pay someone to perform a service, he is likely to pay income tax on the payment. Take a day off of work without pay and do some untaxable work at home. Live cheap, earn little but keep your education up to date for the day the government really does go bankrupt and things finally get better.
Most important, don't loan your money to the government - Treasury bonds, bills, US savings bonds, etc.
If the government goes BK the assets will go to the highest bidder. Likely not people friendly to you and me.
The queer, illegal alien, community organizer is our leader. I don't know whether to cry or laugh!
We trust that the ATM will dispense our pay check so why can we trust the same technology to dispense true democracy.?The only reason we have tiers of government is because when our government was formed the way people communicated was by land or sea travel which took crazy amounts of time. We now have the technology to replace government with ourselves, in simple terms, we have outgrown representative government. We need local government by the people and local involvement by good people. The rest can be managed through technology which hasn't been compromised by anyone.
Hate to break it to the late great John Lennon, but we are not the government. I think it was Larken Rose who said it best as a response to people who parroted that drivel. You think you're the government? You don't see any difference between yourself and that group of people stealing from you over there. That's my bad paraphrase.
Bigger and more guns in the right hands.
Fully Informed Jury Association
www.fija.org
"FIJA works to:
• Inform potential jurors of their traditional, legal authority to refuse to enforce unjust laws
• Inform potential jurors that they cannot be required to check their consciences at the courthouse door
• Inform potential jurors that they cannot be punished for their verdicts
• Inform everyone that juror veto—jury nullification—is a peaceful way to protect human rights against corrupt politicians and government tyranny"- fija.org Aug. 2015
I had to report to jury duty one time regarding a 1st degree murder case. In the pre-trial phase (jury selection) I was asked if I was comfortable with the death penalty if warranted. I told the judge and courtoom that I personally had no problem with the death penalty but it was obvious the state did. The judge asked me what I meant. Explaining myself, I said the state has not carried out a death sentence in over 20+ years. There's no impact. I further stated that if the young man (he was sitting right there) was found guilty of murder in the first degree and sentenced to death - he should be executed within the hour. You could hear gasps across the courtroom. I said my point was that if EVERYONE knew you could be tried, convicted and hung/shot/injected all in the course of 1 week then I probably safely assumed that murder cases would be drastically reduced. I still believe that to this day. Oh yeah - I wasn't selected for jury duty that day. So sad.
he should be executed within the hour
Excellent plan. Because the government is not corrupt and never makes a mistake. Prosecutors and police never lie. And forensics is a perfect science and the testimony of its practitioners is always honest.
Illinois - John Burge.
And every crime should be a capitol offence, and the family of the deceased should be billed for the cost of the bullet. Then, and only then, can we truly become China.
Of course, you might be onto something, if we define crime to mean only those actions carried out by the state on the citizens.
It's illegal to overthrow the government. Protest, nonviolent or otherwise is as useless a gesture as voting.
But to say that resistance to the government is futile seems strange from an article purporting to help us find our way to change. I guess we aren't supposed to want enough change to actually be free of our bondage.
It's not illegal to overthrow racketeers & fraudsters, it's the duty of all law abiding citizens of the world, frankly. The Government of the USA has already been destroyed along with their prized MIC, but the shadow banking industry is propping them up because without their criminal counterparts in Government, and Investment Banks, they would no longer be able to launder money.
Ignore, refuse, resist, accuse...and nullify.
If you want to be selected for jury duty, it is very important that you ask no questions and make no comments prior to the selection of the jury. I had lots of comments and plenty of questions and by the time I was done the prosecutor knew for damn sure they didn't want me on the jury.
Here's another method of fighting government corruption, and a particularly hilarious one at that.
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/hackers-post-what-appears-to-be-stolen-...
If you want to destroy the United States of America, and the totalitarian State apparatus of MIC, and local paramilitary THUG Police, just figure out how to screw them out of their funding so they can't function. The Art of War is to make your enemy defeat himself without lifting a finger, or batting an eyelash. The CIA regularly attacks the funding sources of all their enemies including whistleblowers. It's standard operating procedure IMHO. If you want to defeat the CIA and their ilk, just fuck em' where they live & work.
Up yours, CIA.
Go on the dole then.
Cloward & Piven Strategy to destroy Capitalism would certainly agree with you, El Vaquero. Personally, I would rather be dead than on the dole, but if everyone did it all at once it would certainly cause concern for the taxpayer when the politicains forced all the ratepayers to cough up the bill for it. Moreover, if I had to go on welfare life would be over for me at that point. I was raised a Capitalist, but became a Grumpy Marxist through small business that I have. My business has suffered greatly by Government, recessions, organized crime, killer taxation, demographics, banks, Central Banks, and Central Banksters, et cetera.
What other options do we have? Sure, I'll nullify the shit out of a law on a jury if is the right thing to do, but I've been called up exactly once for jury duty, and I had finals that particular week, so they excused me. Armed revolution? Well, that's not in the cards today. That will be in the cards when there enough people who thouroughly understand that they're getting so screwed that it's the only option. That's not the case today. I'm not on the dole, but if you want to drain resources, that is the best way that I see.
what, you mean we cant just simply cut off all of the government's funding? but it sounds so simple
/s
*facepalm*
If the elite were held to every law, regulation and ordinance they pass without exception, they would think their laws, regulations and ordinances all the way through. But since they are above the law and we are below the protections of our Constitution. As of now there are no incentives for them to. Moreover, if there were a customer protection bureau that protected us from government abuse, the abuse would diminish. This is exactly what a Fourth Branch would do! Read about it here... https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/277193
Educating the sheep is a real problem, as the sheep are NOT here at ZeroHedge.
http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/1/7/8/9/5/5/3/Sheep-Politics-Dog...
I beg to differ. We still have people here that actually think voting makes a difference.
Voting is what got us to where we are now.
Is more of it is really going to help??
I don't think you're allowed to state that the purpose of your "vote" is nullification. I think that will trigger a mistrial. Not sure, though. You're expected to follow the judge's instructions, which don't include nullification. You just have to say "not guilty". You don't have to explain your position.
NH is the only state that allows the defense to discuss and openly solicit the jury for jury nullification (meaning the jury can interpret the law and decide if the application of the law is just).
This is forbidden in every other state.
Look it up.
You are incorrect. The Maryland Bill of Rights declares that the jury judges the law and the facts in criminal cases.
Absolutely correct you don't have to explain or justify your decision. You are not the prosecutor nor the un-prosecutor. You only vote on the justice of applying the law and its punishment. Your vote goes beyond the law to a higher level. Live and act accordingly.
Wrong. You leave. You get the hell outta dodge, get away from human predators, become self-sufficient, refuse to sanction or support human predators, and live independent of human predators.
In other words, you shrug. You leave human predators to feed upon human prey who are willing to be fed upon. Sadly, you cannot help them or save them, so you must abandon them. Save yourself. Live.
I understand that this response has worked for you, and I applaud your courage. Sadly, for my family and the majority of people it is not an option. No man is an island, social animal and such. I am not Galt...we're in the initial phase of cashing-out of suburbia and choosing a little town in flyover country to melt into. Wish us luck.
I do indeed wish you luck. However, as I keep saying again and again, I don't think even a huge mountain of luck will be sufficient to survive the next few years. I hope I'm wrong.
I will say, however, that I enjoy my life much more now than ever since I moved to the extreme boonies 3+ years ago and got my self-sufficient life running. Wow do I love living here! And remember, previously I lived in arguably the nicest little town on the nicest little island on planet earth... Wailea, Maui, Hawaii. To beat that is... well.. really something. But life here is so vastly better that I lack words to express myself.
So "getting out of dodge" can be an entirely positive experience. Not just when you leave, but forever after. And for most it would be, I think.
But as I said above, I am a true individualist and anarchist, so you must make your own decisions, because you will enjoy/bare/suffer the consequences. So I do always hope my move was superfluous, and you all live happily ever after. But I don't believe in fairy tales, so that's not what I expect. At least prepare thoroughly!
I've always agreed wth everything you said Ann, except that last post.
In my experience almost all humans are predators in one area of their lives.
You and me may be different or either or both of us may be deluded, or mendacious.
I've been a predator I know that, and I've been prey, in various situations.
Life is complex and sometimes we can make the wrong decision, how many mistakes do we allow ourselves before we turn ourselves in?
I think I can see major disaster bearing down on me and all whom I love, should I abandon them now and save myself by relocating to a diffent part of the world?
It's sure as shit no one else I know will follow me, and I've worked half a century to build up even the tenuous connection to real life that I have here, so in a real terms I am going to be next to my family when the lights go out, surrrounded by amateur predators wondering why MY house is the only one that still lights up after dark...
I can't save myself, can't save anyone I love. But I can keep practicing living.
If you honestly regret being bad when you were bad, and intend to never do that again, I'd say don't turn yourself in, but make damn certain you never repeat those actions. And if you can compensate who you harmed in the past, do so.
Yes, we must be willing to abandon who we love when necessary. Yes, that's difficult. But when the alternative is being destroyed ourselves along with them, yes, abandon them. Otherwise you actually aid in widening the destruction.
The world after the SHTF needs alert, awake, honest human beings on the planet. Not more sheeple! So the more alert, awake, honest human beings who intentionally "go down with the ship", the smaller the seed crop will be. Maybe that doesn't matter, as long as a few of us survive. You decide.
Ultimately, that's okay with me in the sense that I love the idea of a planet with only few human beings. But I thought most humans prefer the idea that "most survive".
BTW, one final thought. If you do "abandon your family and friends", and go build a [largely] self-sufficient life somewhere relatively safe, two possible scerarios exist.
First, when the SHTF, everything turns to chaos, death and destruction so fast that nobody can get the hell outta dodge. In that case, getting outta dodge early was your only viable option. However, just as likely, maybe even more likely, is that the signs become obvious for a few months, weeks or days. Almost nobody will know how to escape, or where to go, because they're clueless or just decided they prefer to go down with the ship (like you).
In the second scenario, just imagine what your family and friends will think, and the option they now have. First, they realize you're a freaking genius, and all the crap they gave you about getting outta dodge was just them being dimwits, not you. Second, they can get on freaking air flights while air flights still exist and come join you. And you will have saved them all... or all willing to save themselves now that they know exactly where to go to save themselves.
So you can save yourself, and those you care about. But the only way to do that is to act independently now, when you know what you're talking about and they don't.
But I am a true individualist and anarchist, so I fully accept that you and every other individual should make their own decisions, and enjoy/bare/suffer the consequences of those decisions. I wish you the best of luck, and for your sake, and the sake of most folks, I hope nothing terrible happens. I just don't expect that to be the case.
Predators are bullies that learned how to be sociopaths through trial and observation. One should never run from predators, bullies, sociopaths, or cowards. Always confront that which is predatory front on. If a bear stands on it's hind legs and raises it's paws to look BIG and frighten an adversary, the adversary should do the same thing.
In brief, always be prepared to counter threats in the environment, whether that's in the woods, jungle, or metropolitan city. Frankly, right now parts of Detroit are a jungle.
On a personal scale or even a realtively small scale, I totally agree with you. Predators who attack must be exterminated, whether they are human or otherwise.
However, when far more than 99% of a population sanctions, supports and funds the most enormous, powerful and prepared pack of predators the world has ever known (the evil empire), this approach is suicide. And collective attempts to "change the system" like the "liberty movement" wants are delusional. Cannot work.
What could work is 1% or possibly even 0.1% of the population making a full, solid, irrevocable decision to exterminate the human predators. It doesn't take very many, even 0.1% is plenty if their approaches are wise, smart, clever and efficient.
But only 0.000001% or so fall into this category. Since I'm not interested in suicide to make a point, the only viable response is... leave, evade, get the hell outta dodge, move to [as close as possible to] a frontier and become self-sufficient.
I am in such a tiny minority, it would be insane for me to attempt to somehow "control the entire system". And so I don't.
But if I ever encounter individual human predators or small packs of thugs... I intend to respond precisely as you suggest. They will die, and I will survive.
Rusty old bolt action and single shot rifles have been the mainstay of every successful insurgency from the American Revolution to Iraq.
All this high tech hardware goes to hell quick when it get's shot full of holes.
There is nothing new under the sun.
If everybody was a cop we wouldn't need no steenkin' cops.
Easy. Buy silver, instead of f??§ing $#!t. For each family member 1 or 2 ounces per year would be all that it takes.
The USSA is a rogue state.
The USSA can also kiss my a$$.
This tyranny has moved way beyond jury nullification being a possible solution.
All that is left is what is asserted in the Declaration of independence:
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,"
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
It is not just your right, but your duty to throw off the tyranny that has descended upon us.
See you on the battlefield, or listen for my screams from one of Zion's Room 101s.
Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity.
The Four Rs
Rejection: Stop Paying, Stop Obeying, Stop Playing, Stop-up the System.
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Restoration: Restore the American people, country and Constitutional republic.
Retribution: The guilty must answer for their crimes against the American people and the Constitution.
Collectively People have more powa than the Military and Government, but individually they will always loose. If everybody disobeyed the law, refused to show up for court, refused to vote, there is absolutely nothing they can do about it. But, you would have to have at least 90% on the same page, and right now I doubr you would even 10% to agree.
30 to 35%, not 90%. Historically it has only taken between 30 and 35 percent of the population to refuse cooperation in order to effect change.
And it's not enough to simply have them not show up to vote (you've already only got a 60% voter turn out as it is). You need them to show up to vote and vote for the joke candidate. Every time. Let the "rent is too damn high" guy get 40% of the vote, he'll win in a landslide.
That is the only way, in your system, to beat them through voting.
It is said that the Revolution was thoroughly backed by only 25-30% of the colonial populaqtion. A similar number were Tories, and the rest vacillated and worried themselves into old age, I presume.
And just what you gonna do when they detain you without charge as per the NDAA? No jury, no nullification.
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Now all we need is for Trump to note that he is ready for jury duty and ready for nullification if it applies. Poof, bingo,,,off the "hook." No jury duty for you Mr. Trump and OMG you told America! Oh shit! And if it did happen then thank you Mr. Trump for enlightening your fellow Americans with another stuff it on pc speech!
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Saddled with a corporate media that marches in lockstep with the government, elected officials who dance to the tune of their corporate benefactors, and a court system that serves to maintain order rather than mete out justice...
Mussolini would be very proud of the present US of A ...
Proud?
He would be absolutely positively floored by it, as would the whole cast of character in the original Nazi party.
Pretty sure the original Nazi party members (or at least their offspring) are the ones who have created it.
Jury nullification is all fine and well if you don't have a judge who throws out the jury's verdict and substitutes their own. It happens. Best route would be to couch the verdict in terms of not meeting the evidentiary standard - preponderance of the evidence, beyond a reasoable doubt, etc. - and to rely upon a reasoning of "the veracity of the witnesses." Because if you simply state something about "harsh punishments" or "unjust laws" it will not likely fly, or you may be found in contempt for not deciding upon the law.
"Juror nullification"
No banker has been prosecuted for massive felony financial fraud.
When last called in for jury duty, the judge said to the jury panel, if the evidence shows the person guilty, you vote guilty and if the evidence shows not guilty, you vote not guilty. Anyone disagree? A few people raised their hands including myself. When called upon, i responded "juror nullification".
Sitting in the jury box, the question came up again, with everyone to raise their hand in the affirmative. Asked why i didn't raise my hand, i said because no bankers are in prison for massive banking fraud. The judge reacted like i had just dropped a hot potato in her lap and quickly went to the next issue.
"Employ militant nonviolent resistance and civil disobedience, which Martin Luther King Jr. used to great effect through the use of sit-ins, boycotts and marches."
And you will be placed on some list(s) somewhere, the vast majority will not be behind you in any way, and they will be led to believe that YOU are the problem.
"Take part in grassroots activism, which takes a trickle-up approach to governmental reform by implementing change at the local level (in other words, think nationally, but act locally)."
And you will get what I did after many years of doing that - nothing of any significance whatsoever. The majority of people are successfully propagandized idiots who bear no resemblance intellectually to the type of people a logical, well-informed person capable of the critical thought process would associate with. That's the problem with most activists - they don't realize the clueless world most live in and assume everyone to be like themselves because they associate with others who are like themselves. As George Carlin correctly stated, “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that!”
"And then, while you’re at it, nullify everything the government does that is illegitimate, egregious or blatantly unconstitutional."
Back to that uniformed, propagandized population mentioned before. You're grossly outnumbered.
"Things without all remedy should be without regard." - Lady Macbeth, Macbeth: Act 3, Scene 2
In other words, if you can't possibly fix it, don't fret over it. Save yourself and yours as much as possible. Screw everyone else.
Better yet: simply get on welfare and help drain the system. No need for violence or non-violence, email to your "representatives", or "activism", "voting" or any such BS.
Just help the decay follow its natural path by become another tiny micro-bacteria, eating away at the welfare-warfare-state.
Their game is to make you think you are a "citizen" with "rights" and to shame anyone who isn't "contributing" - don't fall for it, join the non-contributors, drain the carcass and wait for a natural renewal.