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What Will You Do When The Government Checks Stop?

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Submitted by Tom Chatham via Project Chesapeake,

Preppers talk about the day when paper currency becomes worthless and how they plan to barter when things fall apart. But, what will most people do when the government check they depend on stops forever more. Over 50% of the people in America now get some kind of government check every month. That is a question that I think many people have not come to grips with yet. At some point, the checks will stop.

Social security and Medicare are running dry fast and it is only a matter of time before they stop paying out in whole or in part. If someone relies on these payments then they likely do not have sufficient money stored away to survive on in the event payments stop.

Not only that, the many other entitlement payments sent out monthly that are keeping the population clothed, fed and housed will stop at some point as well. When that happens we already know what the result will be, especially in the cities. It is inevitable but many people still trust the government line and do not worry about it.

There are those that realize the threat but have not taken any action to mitigate the problems that will result when the fateful day comes. Many hope it will be forestalled for their lifetimes and some hope if they ignore it, it simply will not happen. If government checks stop it will also mean the destruction of retirement plans and savings accounts and if you do not hold it you will not have it.

One of the most vulnerable groups are the babyboomers that are now retiring at the rate of 10,000 per day. If this growing group suddenly loses their monthly check along with most or all of their savings, it is going to put a lot of pressure on society as these people suddenly try to return to the job market to survive.

With the job market shrinking on a daily basis it is now imperative to develop a backup plan to generate some type of income when you can no longer rely on past promises to be honored. If you can store away some real money or valuable items to utilize later that is great but that will not last you forever.

Anyone that survives the coming currency crisis will be someone that planned ahead and had some way to generate income after everything falls apart. If you can generate income to live on, be it money, food, medicine or some other item you need, you will be able to care for yourself for the duration.

That is going to be a critical element in any long range plan you come up with. This means you will need to have the ability to produce something of value that society will need on a daily basis. The first things people seek out are food, shelter and clothing. Having some abilities in one or more of these areas will be the closest thing to guaranteed sales potential that you can get.

Once these needs have been met by society other things will become important such as energy, security, transportation and medicine. Having some abilities in one or more of these areas will insure income for a long time to come as society rebuilds itself.

If you have abilities in a primary need and a secondary need, you will be way ahead of the majority of the people seeking to survive the chaos that follows the loss of jobs and a functional currency.

This plan could be as simple as growing a small garden to have vegetables and seeds to sell. At the same time it would be little trouble to add a few medicinal plants to your plot. You might be able to offer shelter in the form of a spare room or a cottage in your back yard. You could combine this with transportation or security services. In a breakdown of services, energy would be heavily affected. If you had the ability to produce electricity for refrigeration or ice production or the ability to power a vehicle with a wood gas system, you would have a valuable commodity. The ability to make small wood stoves for people without power would give you a large market for this type of appliance.

It is important to think about all of the systems we rely on every day that people take for granted. This will give you a large list of potential goods or services that you may be able to provide after these things become difficult to get. A few dozen chickens producing eggs in your backyard could be the difference between getting by and suffering terribly.

It is also important to think about the support systems you will need to supply the raw materials to produce your goods or services. Chickens need feed. Wood gas producers need a supply of wood. Making wood stoves requires steel. Growing a garden requires not only the knowledge but seeds, tools and fertilizer.

It is important to keep in mind that retirement is a relatively new invention that came about in the 20th century. Until then, people worked until they literally dropped dead. When the current financial system breaks permanently, people will be forced to go back to work and keep doing so until the day they die. That is the reality many people will have to face in the near future. It is a reality that many have not considered and do not want to think about. You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. When the government checks stop and your savings are gone, what will you do?

 

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Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:01 | 6441168 firewolfsblog
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Well start shooting of course! #amIRite? lol

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:05 | 6441185 El Oregonian
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The day the music died... Then the rest of them.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:14 | 6441222 OrangeJews
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Laugh.  Then take a swim in my Silver like Scrooge Mcduck.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:19 | 6441243 ACP
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The checks will never stop, they'll just buy much, much less.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:20 | 6441254 TeamDepends
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What checks?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:26 | 6441279 kaiserhoff
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Mostly invested in land, guns, and lead.

  We be awe 'ight!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:31 | 6441307 Future Jim
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I've heard more than one person say that they look forward to that because it means open season on those who were collecting government checks as well as those who voted for Obama. I don't think they had race in mind either.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:34 | 6441327 Pool Shark
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"What Will You Do When The Government Checks Stop?"

 

Use EBT Cards.

Duh...

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:46 | 6441379 nmewn
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I do believe we've finally gotten to the point in this charade where we will be pointedly asked by our "economic & fiscal betters" to continue to lie to our children & to each other ad finitum lest the entire farce collapses...lol.

I've been waiting all my life for this, what a great time to be alive! ;-)

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:57 | 6441417 OC Sure
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By the blaze of day, 

"Over 50% of the people in America now get some kind of government check every month" + http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-13/1300-tiger-penis-800k-snipers-c... +

"that little thingy called fractional reserve counterfeiting" =

 what ZH should relentlessly hammer into heart of the vampire Devilfish if it truly does desire justice.  

Yet, the consortium assimilated as the totem pole on the left is typically swatting at tentacles and thus still appear incapable of assaulting the monster's command center. (Perhaps, they maintain a vested interest in the ongoing injustice?)

The authority of the world is ruled by corruption, not virtue. 

Can ZH, will ZH, become the exception?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:26 | 6441543 Save_America1st
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You mean the government is finally going to stop checking on us!!???  Fuck yeah!!!!!!

 

oh wait...

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:35 | 6441575 Santini Air
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ZH readers were happy to roll with the Fed and their paper ponzi schemes back in the Reagan/Bush/Clintion years.  When the scam was still benefitting them and their families.  Now they're all riled up tho!  Look at these big goofs here, bunch a fawking fakes!!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:42 | 6441616 OC Sure
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You may be incorrect in 2 respects.

 

1. There were no ZH readers back then. 

2. The principles never change, only the measurements.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:00 | 6441698 DeadFred
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Stop trying to confuse things with facts.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 03:47 | 6442691 Haus-Targaryen
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Anyone who thinks they are going to "thrive" when the US goes bust is fooling themselves.  Anyone with anywealth in this time will be like a steak thrown into a pool of starving piranhas.  

Best thing to do? Find a foreign country where you blend in (e.g., people that look like you); that has societal experience with collapse and doesn't have 50% of the population dependent upon .gov for survival.  Then watch.  

After a purge or two, that 50% of the population in the United States will demand socialism, they'll get it.  

Want to be rich in the United States? You can do one of two things;

1) Prey that US splits up, and the entire continent doesn't go the way of the former German Democratic Republic, then relocate to the non-socialist part (like what happened in Germany in 1945).

2) Move overseas, wait out Socialism and then come back after collapse buying things for pennines on the dollar (like what happened in Germany, where you had people buying 10,000 sq. foot Neo-Classic castles for 1 DM in 1991 -- now selling them for millions).

Look at Germany as a great example as to what is coming to the United States.  

Thu, 08/20/2015 - 07:57 | 6446513 Kobe Beef
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Can we get real extermination camps this time, not fake ones?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:11 | 6441738 Santini Air
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Don't play dumb with we, you know exactly what we talking about!  "Gold backed" or "paper backed"... point is you love government money and government being involved with the issuance of money!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:28 | 6442133 Squid-puppets a...
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now hang the fuck on. (to the author)

yes people used to work til they dropped dead. yes retirement is a relatively new thing. But its a relatively new thing on the back of industrialisation and the proliferation of 'labor saving devices'. We have docks and warehouses full of shit you cant sell without deflating retail prices.

we have everything we need to enable people to retire. Its about how the proceeds and the products of these labor saving devices are shared and distributed.

What, you want everyone to go back to working until they drop dead so that an oligarch can keep his warehouses overflowing?

there has to be solutions. They need to not ignore the incentivisation of work, but the current imbalances are absurd and inhumane

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 23:51 | 6442371 greyghost
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well according to this writer none of this matters! ON HIS BLOG THE NEXT ARTICLE AFTER THIS ONE?     IT DON"T FUCKING MATTER.........PLANET X IS COMING AND GOING TO COLLIDE WITH EARTH!!!!!!!!!! 1st the government checks are going to stop!!!!!!! next up it don't matter about the government checks cause planet x is coming. this is a joke on the readers of the hedge.....right

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 01:00 | 6442509 slimycorporated...
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People only work because they have to. Consumerism incentivizes people to work because they are programmed to believe that obtaining things will make them happier.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:00 | 6441437 TeamDepends
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"Santa is coming this year, right Daddy?". Um, yeah son, but his name from now on is "Annual Gift Man" and he will bring far less this year. Yes, far far less. You will probably recieve a turnip, a lump of coal, and a thimblefull of partially-hydrogenated soybean oil.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:38 | 6441853 logicalman
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My parents grew up during the late 20s - early 30s

Your description is not that far off!

Oranges and small denomination coins were about it, other than something someone made themselves.

I would have to say they turned out to be good people, full of wisdom and great teachers.

Was I lucky, or what?

 

 

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 05:51 | 6442770 HenryHall
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Both.

Lucky and what.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:24 | 6441540 sgorem
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quote, "there will blood in the streets", unquote.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:32 | 6441567 Trucker Glock
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I thought it was "tanks in the streets".

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:40 | 6441608 sgorem
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from the movie, 'There Will Blood'..........model 36 here btw...................

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:20 | 6441784 toady
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Buy property! 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:58 | 6441427 negative rates
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What about electricity Einstien?

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 09:21 | 6443262 ThanksChump
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It's "Einstein".

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:05 | 6441466 WarPony
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Those persons along with the bagholders will find themselves quite comatose thanks to the Veterans and fixed-income Militia who will be making sure the presses keep running.  They've been planning for the day with gleeful anticipation.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:16 | 6441505 techpreist
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If by "open season" you mean "zombie apocalypse," you might be right.

It won't be the cops going house to house. It will be the Horde.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 09:39 | 6443323 ThanksChump
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This is why lead and copper are of obvious yet limited use.

Every Horde despises fire. Learning to create and control fire in large quantities is key to surviving the ZA. There are 1000s of ways to do that. If you can't think of 10, then that's awkward.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:33 | 6441316 TeamDepends
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You've got some beans, and maybe some butter, right? Reminds us, SALT!!! Salt will be worth its' weight in gold.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:52 | 6441398 TeamDepends
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This message NOT brought to you by the Salt Defamation League.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:06 | 6441469 nmewn
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One of my many "vices"...salt...along with (in this day & age) gun's, booze, "illegal" drugs, thinking for myself, red meat, accepting the consequences (or benefit of) my own actions without fuss or fanfare, smoking cigars, cigarettes when I want and always, till my last breath, sticking my finger in the eye socket of anyone who tries to change me or make me conform to their concept of freedom.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:26 | 6441545 sgorem
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A-FUCKING-MEN, BROTHER!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:04 | 6441706 nmewn
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Thats what its always been about my brutha, life is meant to be enjoyed, to test boundaries randomly enforced by "others", to tell them to fuck off, to live and be free to suck on a 32oz soda whenever you want (even when it repels you) and then burp in the assholes face, which is always the best part of any soda ;-)

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:20 | 6442097 Nobody For President
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Scotch. Good, unblended water of life Scotch. I've been told it is bad for me more than once lately.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:52 | 6441661 TeamDepends
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We keep our fingernails slightly long, especially the thumb, for just such an operation.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:13 | 6441749 nmewn
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It's all good.

I went through my cocaine phase, I never really liked it though, now opiates on the other hand, I have to cut myself off cuz I really do. A man's got to know his limitations, that is, his strengths AND weaknesses ;-)

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:43 | 6441887 logicalman
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With you, except for the nicotine.

For one thing, it's so heavily taxed that you are supporting the system by partaking.

I cycle a lot so the cardio downside of tabacco is a deal killer.

You can brew your own beer.

Cannabis is health 'food'

 

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:06 | 6442032 conscious being
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This caught my eye - "At the same time it would be little trouble to add a few medicinal plants to your plot." Now thats planning ahead.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 06:50 | 6442814 nmewn
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Well (something to think about) in our own way we all support the system because you can't escape it unless one goes completely black market, whether its being taxed for riding apparel, tires or the bike itself.

But trust me my brother, I'll never support banning bikes or taxing them so heavilly as to make you do something I want you to do that you don't ;-)

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:57 | 6441420 kaiserhoff
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Matches, toilet paper, tobacco seeds.

It's the little things that can matter soooo much.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:02 | 6441449 TeamDepends
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Lipstick and tampoons (Zappa) for the ladies and we'll all be happier.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:19 | 6441518 WarPony
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soap, deodorant, TP & coffees - WTWIAU.  Drugs too.  Yay drugs!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:50 | 6441930 FredFlintstone
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old-fashioned porn might make a comeback. the kind that is printed on paper

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:45 | 6441900 Implied Violins
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Razor blades, soap, batteries, sponges, flashlight bulbs, fishing line, nail clippers, .45 hollow points, whet stone, 3 in 1 oil, dry roasted nuts, Morgan's spicy rum, two 5-gallon buckets, folding camp shovel, camp axe, an extra clip for the .45, Himalayan salt (3 pounds!), 3 liter cans of olive oil, 25-lb bags of brown rice and black beans, rocket stove, lots of spices including turmeric and creole seasonings, band aids and gauze, topical antibiotics, dried fruit, dehydrator, extra insoles and shoelaces, eyeglass repair kit, several different kinds of nails, TP, several bottles of wine, cases of Guinness beer, Life Straw, emergency parka, GOOD all-purpose knife, several cases of tuna and salmon, beef jerky, quinoa, vitamins and minerals, paper plates, 22LR bullets for the Thompson Center Contender, 7.62x39 for the SKS, gun oil and cleaning patches, extra trigger parts, silver eagles, chicken wire, cubitainers for storing water, paracord, GMO-free seeds, sun oven (for when smoke would give you away), playing cards, *many* good books, Scrabble, Settlers of Cataan, several gallons of gas, lighters, candles, tea lights...

These things, and many others, have found their way onto my shopping list this month alone.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:05 | 6442027 gimme soma dat
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Several bottles of wine?  That's day one. 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:26 | 6442123 natty light
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Bic-type lighters, AAA batteries for LED lights, those one-sided utility razor blades, vice-grips, baking soda, baking powder.  

 

One thing I think would be useful is a hand-crank coffee grinder (heavy-duty).

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:41 | 6441609 Offthebeach
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How'd that work out for the Kulaks, the Cultural Revolution, Jews in the Pale? You'l be rolled up like a jelly roll. One peep and watch your daughters raped on the driveway. One shot and your house gets A-10nd. For a tax bill relief you'll be ratted out by a neighbor.

Such is the way of the world.

Long Live Obama!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:17 | 6441771 WarPony
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anti-peeps be sporting a-10s too.  Death to the NWodor.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:11 | 6441734 Dugald
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Will don Lincoln Green, cut myself a stout yew bow, fletch some arrers, round up the lads call ourselves Robbin Bastards and take to the highways......worked before.....

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:47 | 6441909 logicalman
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How may bows have you got right now and how many arrows?

If you have to cut yourself a stave and fletch some arrows when the trouble starts, it will all be over before you are ready for action!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 23:58 | 6442383 tarabel
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Hey, it's the country formerly known as Great Britain-- where knives are increasingly illegal. Can't imagine that they let people run around in the Queen's Woods with anything as dangerous as an axe.

As for harming a tree, well then...

But I do support his doughty spirit and wish him well, nonetheless.

 

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 05:52 | 6442772 Cheduba
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The author forgot clean water...

And what about sewage disposal?  Dysentery is a blast!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:27 | 6441281 Bluntly Put
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Correct, and how will they do that when the banking system is finally revealed as completely insolvent? Treasury will print state currency. That will enable them to kick the can another decade or so, before they've completely destroyed the value of that currency.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:09 | 6441479 WarPony
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Treasury?  You mean those Christmas ornaments?  The replacements don't need no stinkin badges.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:59 | 6441692 FedFunnyMoney
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Bingo. You da winner.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:28 | 6441791 rbg81
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Bingo.  The only reason the checks might stop is an EMP attack.  They will keep going and going, as long as they are accepted as currency.  What they actually buy is another matter.

Have to admit though, even 3 years ago, I thought the USD would surely be close to worthless right now.  I have been very mistaken on that score.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 02:31 | 6442625 roddy6667
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No need to stop the checks. Inflation will make them almost worthless. Blame it all on the Muslims and keep up the Endless Woar. Such a plan. The Hebes have it all figgered out.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:22 | 6441259 Dick Buttkiss
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Tom Chatham, good article, but if you're going to quote someone, fess up and don't pretend the words are yours:

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/we_can_evade_reality-but_we_cannot_evade...

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:26 | 6441278 Arnold
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Nice.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:24 | 6441539 MalteseFalcon
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If the checks stop, that means .gov has disappeared.  I don't think the author has a clue what that means for the time between now and the checks stopping.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:56 | 6441414 negative rates
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Okay big hands, when you come for you, you will know it was you, and a couple rabbits along side.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:33 | 6441840 acetinker
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Let me go o-on,

Like a blister in the sun.

Let me go o-o-on,

Big hands I know you're the one!

Apologies nr,... had to say it.

There was a man who had a face, that looked a lot like me.

I saw him in the mirror and, I fought him in the street;

Then when he turned away, I shot him in the head.

Then I came to realize, I had killed myself.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:13 | 6441215 Takeaction2
Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:15 | 6441228 order66
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I'll revisit this in 25 years when it actually has a chance to become reality. By then boomers will all be looking at the lawn from the wrong side and we'll all be paying in Yuan anyway.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:28 | 6441283 Arnold
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From your perch above  or below?

 

Buzzard.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:22 | 6441530 techpreist
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Social Security's disability fund is going dry next year: http://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/social-security-disability...

The current estimate is a 20% cut. Remember this program has been abused by the current Administration to get more unemployed people out of the labora force, making unemployment look artificially good. If the Congress actually passes legislation to keep it at capacity, they will probably take from the SS retirement fund, and bring its bankruptcy date forward by several years.

We're going to see this one develop in real time, and the Boomers most likely will see it all happen in their lifetime.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:54 | 6441957 logicalman
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The money that was extorted from the boomers by government has been used for other purposes.

Now that they want to collect they are about to find out how trustworthy those that most see as leaders actually are.

Trouble is, it's too fucking late.

The whole system most of us have to live with is corrupt beyond belief and few see it.

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:11 | 6442050 techpreist
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I am GenY myself, and my retirement plan is to assume that I am getting 0 from any of these programs. Also, I didn't bring it up in the earlier post but while the official bankruptcies are in 2016/late 2030s for SS disability/retirement, the reality is that they are both bankrupt as 100% of the money had been replaced with non-marketable bonds. The assets only have value if the government pays for the bonds. And in turn, if the people can realistically pay the taxes necessary.

Thu, 08/20/2015 - 08:07 | 6446538 Kobe Beef
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I'm Gen X, and my retirement plan is to die in Civil War II. 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:49 | 6442197 PlayMoney
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gubment cheeeese gubment cheeeese

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 07:32 | 6442925 Refuse-Resist
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The only government checks in this house are the ones going TO the government. So when that stops, we'll crack a bottle of our finest Scotch and have a goddamn celebration. We're gonna party like it's 1999 bitchez.

 

Savings? You mean that thing I used to have when it paid interest and wasn't a depreciating asset?

 

Let the checks stop RIGHT FUCKING NOW. They stop sending them out, I don't have to pay anymore.

 

WINNING!  FUCK YEAH!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:05 | 6441184 IridiumRebel
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Pop popcorn.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:07 | 6441189 honestann
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No change.
No government checks now.
No government checks ever.

I seriously hope no "prepper" is counting on government checks!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:32 | 6441312 Arnold
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Actually we were 'hoping' for balances.

(snikker)

Some of us will be fine,HA others will not.

I'm in my Mid-evil meme this week.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:56 | 6441967 logicalman
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Be nice to find a way to use .gov assistance to stack!

 

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 07:34 | 6442937 Refuse-Resist
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This prepper is looking forward to the day when he no longers sends checks TO them.

He never expects to get any sort of remuneration FROM them.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:06 | 6441190 BurningFuld
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Get a job?

Somebody had to say it.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:28 | 6441285 Big Corked Boots
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Really? You think the FSA, which has been relaxing for 3, 4, 5 or more generations wants a job or is even slightly employable?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:52 | 6441397 knukles
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There is always demand for criminals to be locked away in prison.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:02 | 6441451 Big Corked Boots
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True. I heard they used to give judges a "bonus" for 'em in Pennsyltuckie. 

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 06:57 | 6442837 August
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Yep. Only 4 FSA-generations since the Great Society prgrams got rollin'.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 07:35 | 6442941 Refuse-Resist
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Who doesn't want to take a piss test to get a 30 hour a week job at minimum wage?   I mean. what's not to love?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:07 | 6441191 stant
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Put mom in the sun room. Load the mags

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:07 | 6441192 steelrules
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They'll burn the cities to the ground. This is the Zombie Apocalypse preppers have been getting ready for.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:14 | 6441753 Calmyourself
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This..  if checks buy nothing, they'll never stop.  It will be rayciss, poor of all colors..

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:09 | 6441198 Larry Dallas
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Eugenics will occur and big urban cities will become less of a wasteland?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:30 | 6441300 Berspankme
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is that the same as ebonics?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:52 | 6441400 knukles
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For all intents and purposes, yes.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:10 | 6441204 Seasmoke
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I just hope some film it so I can watch it live stream on YouTube.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:13 | 6441216 StaresWithStares
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Yes, and some nice video footage from a drone would be lovely.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 07:01 | 6442844 August
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Man, they're really gonna have to jack up the tax rates to pay for the rebuilding effort.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:02 | 6441447 negative rates
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We HOPE he doesn't make it, AND that we have enough CHANGE to outlast him. This administrations modified motto.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:11 | 6441207 Vlad the Inhaler
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Americans will try to flee to Mexico, but Trump's wall will stop them cold.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:36 | 6441335 johand inmywallet
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This country will be in the shitter before Trump wins (maybe) the next election.

As said, if the checks stop and EBT is dried up, making quilts for your neighbors and bartering seeds will be the least of our worries. You folks in the burbs need to worry about your house burning down, never mind trying to find food. Hell, I hear humans taste like chicken!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:00 | 6441438 A Nanny Moose
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NOt that elections work anyway, but we are one false flag away from Perm-o-bama

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 07:37 | 6442946 Refuse-Resist
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If you plan on fleeing to Mexico, I hope you're fluent in Espanol, because the Mexican government will not be providing materials in English at their offices, the DMV, or at their schools for your kids. There will be no free health care, EBT, SEction 8 or anything like that.

 

In fact, I believe Mexico actually has some very strict immigration laws.

 

And you also better have plenty of pocket change for La Mordida.

 

Flee to Mexico? Give me a fucking break.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 11:36 | 6443800 Vlad the Inhaler
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Fight or flight.  You wanna take on the US Army drones and marauding bands of lunatics just to keep your devalued little patch of dirt, or do you wanna GTFO to Argentina where people will still be eating juicy steaks and watching hot women do the tango?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:14 | 6441218 serotonindumptruck
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The anger and rage will initially be off-the-scale in terms of the violence that many will resort to. When there is no law and order (no consequences for illegal behavior), there will be no law and order.

If you have something that someone else wants, they will not be asking politely. They will simply kill you.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:58 | 6441428 HobbyFarmer
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I agree.  The first person to step forward and say, "I have extra food to trade!" will be followed home, shot and his/her family attacked.

Better to know your neighbors now, get a group of like-minded individuals who you trust and who prepare themselves.  Then, when the days arrive, watch each other's backs.

After some really rough times, things will normalize.  The stronger your unit/friends/tribe before that day, the quicker your group will emerge on the other side.

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 07:39 | 6442956 Refuse-Resist
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Let the culling begin.  The anti-gun hive dwellers and the FSA will be the cull-ees. How else can it turn out given their endemic helplessness and fear of weapons.

There are too many parasites in this country as it is, and as long as business as usual continues, that number increases exponentially each and every day.

Bring it on.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:14 | 6441221 gimme soma dat
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Chickens? What the hell are a few chickens going to do up against 30+ million illegal immigrants plus all of the other Free Shit Army.  Army is the key word in that title.  Millions of illegals is an army inside our border.  Millions living off the government is an army.  All these fucking leeches on society will kill you and your damned chickens. 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:41 | 6441359 Realname
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My chickens are jihadists with exploding eggs.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:47 | 6441384 stant
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ALI Bok BOK!!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:11 | 6441486 Big Corked Boots
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Q. Why did the chicken cross the road?

A. To cleanse the land of the satanic infidels!

I'm up all nite, ladies and gentlemen.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:16 | 6441768 Calmyourself
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Be sure to tip your waiters and waitresses

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:00 | 6441997 Not My Real Name
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And make sure you try the veal ... 

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 07:42 | 6442962 Refuse-Resist
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The Tree of Liberty will be watered. 

If my blood is required then so be it.  But I plan to make sure there's lots of tyrant blood on the groudn next to mine before I expire.

Stop spouting off like a chickenshit. Grow some balls.Turn off the TV and get outside. DO SOMETHING.

Prepare to defend yourselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlOxiwGLAkY

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:15 | 6441226 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Cheques is spelled _cheques_ not 'checks', Z/H.

 

Am I hanging with a bunch of illiterates here?

 

wtf?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:17 | 6441237 StaresWithStares
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Oh Canada!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:22 | 6441260 general ambivalent
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Keep your cheques in check.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:30 | 6441301 Big Corked Boots
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Not in 'Murica, mofo!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:05 | 6441467 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Mea Culpa, I checked on Wikipedia.

 

oh, the horror, the horror.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:11 | 6441488 thatthingcanfly
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You can still complain about this bombshell in paragraph 5:

"If this growing group suddenly looses their monthly check..."

I'd like them to loose that upon me! That'd be more gooder n stuff.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:52 | 6441945 tarabel
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Out in California, it is once again spelled "cheque" but is now a two-syllable pronunciation.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:34 | 6441328 Tallest Skil
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When your country controls the world, regardless of the means by which this happened, THEN you get to decide how something is spelled.

Could've sworn you guys didn't much like your frog neighbors, anyway.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:00 | 6441441 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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CANADA, or the USA, does not control the world.

 

 

I did not realize that US spelling was different from Oxford English, sorry.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:04 | 6441462 Big Corked Boots
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then chill.... mofo.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:17 | 6441511 Arnold
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On behalf of a few , yes you are.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:59 | 6441989 logicalman
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Colonials fucking up the English language!

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:18 | 6441241 nakki
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I'm sure the checks will keep coming unfortunately it will be in such a diluted currency it wont matter much. If not people survived the great depression. I use to talk to my Grandfolks about all the time. Sure things were tough but they got by, and pretty much everyone they knew were all in the same boat. Shit I grew up in the 70's things were tough, we didn't have a lot. We didnt have cable or cell phones we played whiffle ball and threw a Frisbee, played cards, we ate a lot of pasta. People will survive, its not like its that great for the majority right now.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:52 | 6441399 EMAX
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That is what I'm trying to figure out.  I'm and economist and a prepper.  Strong believer that economics rule in the end and central governments can't change things forever.  First, I thought they would stop paying ebt and any checks.  But since they do illegal things in the government anyway, could they continue to pay electronically to everyone and just have the "fake" accounts at treasuery be drawed on?  This is based upon the elite ignoring the rules and just paying electronically in cheaper dollars.  Could they do that for awyhile (for years)?    The other thing I've noticed is many even those who talked the market up for last 7 years, are  saying it's a bubble.  Looks like they sold their stock and shorted the market.  "Talking their position".  Again interested in any information and appreciate it on how they could try to keep this ponzi scheme going.  I still believe at some point it has to end.  Just trying to find my bugout signal.  Which is easier know I live near family ranch and away from large midwestern city. 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:16 | 6441504 ToSoft4Truth
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We can’t openly discuss what ails us right now.  ZH will give us the b00t.  LOL

Western society is down to a few remaining options. 

Bush did warn us, “Clash of Civilizations Bitchez!”

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:22 | 6441525 Arnold
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When you talk shit.....

It is the Tyler's club.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:34 | 6441571 ToSoft4Truth
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That goes without saying.  

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 07:46 | 6442974 Refuse-Resist
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"could they continue to pay electronically to everyone and just have the "fake" accounts at treasuery be drawed on?"

That's an excellent observation.

I believe that is what's happening now and has been happening for some time. Note that the USGOV  debt has been 'frozen' since January is it?

Frozen? Hmm.

Sounds like to me that they're just printing  (ie drawing electronic funds from thin air -- ie banking procedure) from accounts that don't exist and pretending like they have the money. If you or I did that we'd go to jail for passing fraudelent checks.

 

I'd say we're on that last leg of pretend money that people still believe in. The minute the belief wavers, the pretend money returns to its intrinsic value === ZERO.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:19 | 6441244 painter1
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Probably just eat my stockpiled rice and chickpeas I bought with my EBT card, along with my kilos of green tea. I do need more rice. Thankfully this month I got more money leftover on my card. Probably should buy another 25lber or two. 

For real, though, they will stop paying Congress and the President's salaries before they cut EBT cards just to avoid the shitstorm. Shit, we get mini riots when EBT cards stop working for an afternoon. 

The Titanic is sinking, and I plan to go in the rooms and take all the jewelry I can before I shove my way onto a lifeboat. 

*shrugs*

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:19 | 6441249 cpnscarlet
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I'm sorry, but Alan Greenspan said it best - (Paraphrase)

"You will get your check. What that check's value will be, I can't say."

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:20 | 6441250 Hohum
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Die?  Shit happens.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:23 | 6441264 Arnold
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Aside from SSI, SSID, Medicare, Veterans bennies,  is there anyone posting that gets none of the paid bennies that we paid for?

never mind........

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:55 | 6441409 knukles
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I get checks.  Cancelled ones back from the government.  Many governments. 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:24 | 6441266 F0ster
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The baby boomers were conned to believe that retirement was their 'right'. How wrong they were.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:29 | 6441292 Doubleguns
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Its not a right its a privilege.....for the privileged few.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 22:03 | 6442015 logicalman
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Government forced them to hand over their money and to prevent problems they promised to give it back at a later date.

Boomers paid for it, so they should receive it.

Would have been easy if the financial system was honest.

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:25 | 6441273 general ambivalent
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Well, today I split wood and did some sprints and other exercises. Hopefully the same thing, but not having to sprint for being chased. And would be nice to be able to log in to ZH to see what is going down.

Might fully bug out. Don't know, probably won't have to right away.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:29 | 6441293 Dre4dwolf
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Rejoice?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:29 | 6441295 John Law Lives
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Here is a headline that sure caught my attention:

 

St. Louis Fed official: No evidence QE boosted economy

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/18/st-louis-fed-official-no-evidence-qe-boos...

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:29 | 6441296 mastersnark
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If $14 trillion won't stop them from coming, nothing will stop them. There's always "money" for DC's dependants.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:34 | 6441326 eddiebe
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Now this is some serious fear porn.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:45 | 6441374 Consuelo
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Definitely wood, no doubt.

 

 

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:35 | 6441332 anticultist
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from the way the webbots put it, untehtered masses leave the cities when ebt fails, nothing to keep them there.

 

Health and longevity is pretty much the key. Can you imagine masses and masses with no useful skill like those involved

in lending debt. I picked up work at age 10, sure I was a loner,

I didnt have much in common with the college freshman class who didnt live

yet what I knew at age 10. I got really rare skills like no encumbrances common to american slaves, like ignorance.

Now my trophy wife is 13 years younger, comes with wisdom. So I didnt fit in then but got the last laugh, and when

I join them at reunion, I look 10-15 years younger. Maybe because I learned some things the old fashioned way and

saw the whole slave harvest coming and just stayed one step ahead,

connecting the dots, the old dot connector. I just observed and learned because opposite

the liberal experts the never left the porch, I knew there was some evil going on here that I was not understanding so I

better just shut up and and observe and learn.

Imagine the money I go through in maintaining life, take that down 90 95%, I cant imagine yet but I am making provision

none the less.

 

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:32 | 6441566 Arnold
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ub #1 sht mstr

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 07:49 | 6442984 Refuse-Resist
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Good comment. Who the fuck downvoted it?

 

Probably some of those masses with no useful skill to which you alluded.

Anonymous cowards. If you're going to downvote a man, at least counter his argument.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:38 | 6441349 foodstampbarry
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Bang fat chicks. Right now I'm a player, thanks uncle Sam.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:49 | 6441382 Kprime
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don't get ur panties in a wad, the checks will never stop.  Look at Greece, they are selling off the country but those checks still go out.  America is 30 to 50 years from facing real terror.

Besides, .gov doesn't send me a check, it's just direct deposited the first week of the month and all spent, or withdrawn, within the next 3 days.

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