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What Will You Do When The Government Checks Stop?
Submitted by Tom Chatham via Project Chesapeake,
Preppers talk about the day when paper currency becomes worthless and how they plan to barter when things fall apart. But, what will most people do when the government check they depend on stops forever more. Over 50% of the people in America now get some kind of government check every month. That is a question that I think many people have not come to grips with yet. At some point, the checks will stop.
Social security and Medicare are running dry fast and it is only a matter of time before they stop paying out in whole or in part. If someone relies on these payments then they likely do not have sufficient money stored away to survive on in the event payments stop.
Not only that, the many other entitlement payments sent out monthly that are keeping the population clothed, fed and housed will stop at some point as well. When that happens we already know what the result will be, especially in the cities. It is inevitable but many people still trust the government line and do not worry about it.
There are those that realize the threat but have not taken any action to mitigate the problems that will result when the fateful day comes. Many hope it will be forestalled for their lifetimes and some hope if they ignore it, it simply will not happen. If government checks stop it will also mean the destruction of retirement plans and savings accounts and if you do not hold it you will not have it.
One of the most vulnerable groups are the babyboomers that are now retiring at the rate of 10,000 per day. If this growing group suddenly loses their monthly check along with most or all of their savings, it is going to put a lot of pressure on society as these people suddenly try to return to the job market to survive.
With the job market shrinking on a daily basis it is now imperative to develop a backup plan to generate some type of income when you can no longer rely on past promises to be honored. If you can store away some real money or valuable items to utilize later that is great but that will not last you forever.
Anyone that survives the coming currency crisis will be someone that planned ahead and had some way to generate income after everything falls apart. If you can generate income to live on, be it money, food, medicine or some other item you need, you will be able to care for yourself for the duration.
That is going to be a critical element in any long range plan you come up with. This means you will need to have the ability to produce something of value that society will need on a daily basis. The first things people seek out are food, shelter and clothing. Having some abilities in one or more of these areas will be the closest thing to guaranteed sales potential that you can get.
Once these needs have been met by society other things will become important such as energy, security, transportation and medicine. Having some abilities in one or more of these areas will insure income for a long time to come as society rebuilds itself.
If you have abilities in a primary need and a secondary need, you will be way ahead of the majority of the people seeking to survive the chaos that follows the loss of jobs and a functional currency.
This plan could be as simple as growing a small garden to have vegetables and seeds to sell. At the same time it would be little trouble to add a few medicinal plants to your plot. You might be able to offer shelter in the form of a spare room or a cottage in your back yard. You could combine this with transportation or security services. In a breakdown of services, energy would be heavily affected. If you had the ability to produce electricity for refrigeration or ice production or the ability to power a vehicle with a wood gas system, you would have a valuable commodity. The ability to make small wood stoves for people without power would give you a large market for this type of appliance.
It is important to think about all of the systems we rely on every day that people take for granted. This will give you a large list of potential goods or services that you may be able to provide after these things become difficult to get. A few dozen chickens producing eggs in your backyard could be the difference between getting by and suffering terribly.
It is also important to think about the support systems you will need to supply the raw materials to produce your goods or services. Chickens need feed. Wood gas producers need a supply of wood. Making wood stoves requires steel. Growing a garden requires not only the knowledge but seeds, tools and fertilizer.
It is important to keep in mind that retirement is a relatively new invention that came about in the 20th century. Until then, people worked until they literally dropped dead. When the current financial system breaks permanently, people will be forced to go back to work and keep doing so until the day they die. That is the reality many people will have to face in the near future. It is a reality that many have not considered and do not want to think about. You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. When the government checks stop and your savings are gone, what will you do?
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Right; Gvmt hates checks - exensive to print, handle, clear - now most everything in the way of payments is electronic Ones and Zero's, deposited to an EBT or direct to a credit union or bank account. So they should be in theory easy to control and only dependent on some programmer to accomplish a transfer. Everything works until the electricity doesn't. Oops.
More solar, batteries, seeds, rebuild the still, another 500 lbs of sugar, rice, another Beeman pellet gun and LOTS of pellets, another 50 gal drum of gasoline with stabile added, a case of cigarettes, 10 cases of half-pint vodka bottles, and all the pocket change we can save between then and now.
Fencing, fertilizer, bulk coffee, freeze-dried provisions, cloth diapers, soap, clothsline, lots of bleach, vinegar, and detergent. Learn how to grow a year round survival garden, herbs, spices, raise chickens and bunnies, and operate a brewery / run a still.
Screws are better than nails, and possession is better than promises. Rock 'n Roll !
Me I will walk on out back and start building wood gasifiyers out of old water heaters and 55 gallon gas drums an stuff.
Cuz I can.
Oh please, if they ALL really stopped coming, the country would burn to the ground. Millions would riot in big cities and small towns. Every gun store in America would be emptied, every national guard armory emptied and then burned. Total chaos with no way back.
It is ONLY those checks that keeps social order. Most have never saved a dime for retirement, they were encouraged to buy new cars and big houses and boats and I-Toys. Their toys are worthless when it all melts down. Social security is all millions have, no Medicaid and Medicare and most won’t live past fifty-five. End all veterans’ benefits and a million armed unemployed, vets march on D.C. It will become like Nazi Germany…revolution in the air. A dictator, maybe Trump?...will emerge and lead us off to war as a distraction.
End the entitlements and the second civil war starts. The oligarchs would rather see hyper-inflation than total chaos. The rich can’t lead fun lives if everyone is shooting at them.
Phrased another way, what are ya gonna do when the government checks are the only ones that will cash?
the checks never stop. one day they may buy nothing, that is the real story. watcha gonna do when a loaf of bread is $100
grow your own food
Foraging might be a better strategy in a worst case scenario - you are not pinned down in one spot.
Squirrels, rabbits, ducks, geese - slingshot, bow, air gun (all nice and quiet) for meat.
Know your way around the local countryside and keep fit enough to move quicky and a decent distance should you need to.
Cheapest prices for gold - Pay with bitcoin or bank wire transfer
Spammer, begone!
Yeah, This one ain't happenin' anytime soon. Helecopters ..... remember?
No problem, just like Weimar (read "When Money Dies" by Fergusson) the criminal gang called central government will just continue to print moar counterfeit to make the payments, which will buy less and less and less, to maintain support of the ignorant masses, until they can find someone else to blame the societal collapse on.
Most of the EBT class will kill each other before turning on what is left of the working class. What I learned is that the EBT class may think they know how to shoot a gun, but they can't hit shit. One person that knows what they are doing can take out thousands of welfare recipients before they even figured out where the shots were coming from. The race war will be a one sided bloodbath. It would be really hard to try and feel sorry for them. There is so much underlying hate built up after forty years of leeching off the working class that people just won't even care. Deep down most people want it to happen. They are just afraid to say anything.
Minorities, and blacks in particular, have no idea just how precarious is their existence. Without a very intrusive gov't to shield and feed them, they really are the very most "vulnerable." Tough shit, they lick the chains that bind them.
Anyone know if .22 LR or .22 mag is good for zombies or social work?
Also what is a good low light scope for a .223 that is not expensive?
Get a Ruger 10-22 with an automatic trigger and 120 shot clip.It is a reasonably priced .22 and with the lazer option. it's definitely bad for zombies.
Add cowardly chicken shits to that. Yesterday a car pulled out in front of me in traffic and I nearly hit it so I laid on the horn. A giant black guy gets out and starts screaming at me about how he was going to fucking kill me, he'd fucking kill me. This was complete with gestures and him going apeshit. When he saw me reach my hand into my purse he shut up, turned around, and got back into his car. Yes he wanted to fight a woman over some road rage. Coward.
Why are you living in a nigger area? Get smart. Move somewhere safer.
They speak one language: OVERWHELMING VIOLENCE OR THREATS THEREOF.
Once he understood that you were fluent in his language (unlike most non-blacks), he got the fuck off you.
Had you pleaded ignorance and not understood his communications, he would've attacked and you might even be on World Star Shit Hop right now.
Avoid the groid. Around blacks never relax. Even if you're black.
Without fail, whenever I see a white person attempt to ask a black person to behave in a civil manner, the black person immediately gets violent.
Things that white people do without much thought, like being quiet in a movie theater, not blocking the aisle in the grocery store, not cussing in front a bunch of little kids etc.
"People worked until they literally dropped dead."
That's gonna be me, and it's what I want. I find the whole concept of retirement depressing.
May I suggest a nice evening of sex instead? Work is so boring, and to die for it. Much better to ejaculate and give off some life force/death in honor of the goddess. What say you, man?
No reason it has to be either-or.
Retirement is just a concept now for about 99% of the populace.
Slaves to a dream that no longer exists.
What do we do with our aged relatives when the checks stop for them?
We all have relatives who depend on the COLA in one way or another.
That's easy. Make your boomer mom and dad dig their own graves, if they still have the energy. Then blow out their brains, cover them over, and get on with trying to survive yourself
If humanity survives what's to come at all, there won't be any room left for useless mouths.
Own it. As in, death to the money changers, keep the presses rollin and support your local posse. The feds don't get away with pulling the rug, 'cepting on the FSA.
Not enough information is provided to answer the question. Does it happen during NFL preseason, regular season, post season, or off season? It matters.
Grow food, lots of it, which I'm doing..non-GMO organic..wholesome. In fact, I've got so much, maybe 5x's as much as I need, I've been giving it to all the neighbors. I can afford to give it to them for free, at the moment, It seems my unplanned "generosity" is coming back to me in other ways (from them). Good to keep diplomatic relations with neighbors in the positive. How does that go...what you put out comes back 10 fold?
That's all fine and dandy, for now. They still have support lines. Take that away, they are starving. Many have kids. You're the one with stuff. I have my own martial plan, heavily fortified with acquisition ideas. So do many others though. None of this shit will work in complete chaos it will be Thunderdome. Eat a steak and get a blowjob one minute, get your head cut off the next. Every animal on this planet kills and eats others for survival, we're going to revert to that.
The world IS as you Are.
OM SHANTI
I remember watching in, like 1985, a special on TV about Nostrodomus. I remember it said, "Man will become a man-eater." He prophesized endless, "War, war and more war." Not too far off..... followed by a golden age. I think food is a big issue, be it drought, famine, or just plain disconnect from the source of life itself. Food. The Earth. The body. Eating. What a metaphor!
I always wondered why humans believe Nostrodomus but when the Bible says the same thing in greater detail, they don't?
When Jerusalem was surrounded and utterly destroyed in 70AD by the Romans; people ate each other and mother's ate their newborns and after birth. There is nothing nastier than a hungry human being; only the regenerate can face death with confidence.
Luke 21:20 When you see Jerusalem surrounded by foreign armies, then you know its desolation is near.
This is going to happen again.
you realize you just said "someday, the christians
will be saved while everyone else will be miserable."
If you added up all the misery suffered by zionists that those who were slip-shod before the goddess didn't have to excavate, it would be heaven, man! and I'm not for a democracy.
Perhaps not you, but many will participate, unwillingly--for most, in population reduction.
Also, if you think you are ok when 70%+ of the county goes shit fuck nuts..............you better rethink that.
The people that really kill me are the ones that spew bullshit without thinking. Like someone I know that said "what, if that happens, you can't live off the land???" So say it happens, very, very few are prepped. What are you going to do, run outside to your 1 standing tomato plant??? What if it happens in winter?
Say you are prepped. Everyone around you isn't. Congrats. You're fucked.
Better say a fucking pray and wish for luck.
In the bigger picture, this is just another stupid fucking civilization that's going to flushed down the shitter and we're no different from the gazillions that have gone before us and no different from any idiots that might pop up after this over. Humans, the most intelligent species this planet has known, are also the dumbest at the same time and each generation tries for an extinction event, sometimes more than once.
Collectivizing suicide. What a waste.
Who cares if you and your neighbors, friends, and family are prepped? The FSA "apocolypse" should have you worried, because to survive, you're going to have to expend a LOT of precious ammo to fend them off. Maybe once the barricades of dead bodies who dared attempt break your lines of defense (a-la The 300) are stacked up on the perimeter, then the survival can proceed. Just sayin'
Locked and loaded, bitches.
Because there is no limit on creating US Dollars, there will never be a day when the checks/EBT cards stop. The gubmint will continue to issue checks forever. If you want to prep - prep for the day when those checks will no longer buy very much. (Think of needing a wheelbarrow full of EBT cards to buy a loaf of bread). I can easily see the US Dollar collapse, but I cannot see the gubmint defaulting.
True. Just because the US loses reserve status doesn't mean it can't print. For instance, Japan prints. Also, it was supposed to be illegal for the EU to print. Now, not only is the EU printing, they are bailing out and stealing other countries assets with shit created out of thin air.
The Federal Reserve, a private corporation, not the U.S. Government, loans dollars into existence without any intrinsic value other tban the blind faith of those who actually have to work for their dollars.
Crisis of 1907...
Fed Reserve created 1913 - Depression 1929... 16 years
Lehman, Countrywide, AIG, etc...~ 2008
1999 (Glass-Steagall repealed) - 2015... 16 years
Same slime, different century.
US will default to the fed take over dollar printing. reset.
What about the day you die; if you believe it will be as though you never existed, then you deny the knowledge of the inner-man? You already know there is existence or life after death because it is instilled in the heart of every man; only some have a seared conscience that no longer functions.
Hey, guess what tylers. This content is shit. When you fought for something and watched your friends die, call me.
Not that I don't appreciate your efforts, buy your logic is fatally flawed. You went and fought a war, so you think nothing bad can happen? Correction, your content is shit.
You now realize you went and saw people die for Central Bankers; that makes all of us sad.
And what did you fight for, exactly? And don't you even dare to suggest I benefited. What did you fight for, why did you do it, and was it achieved?
Most people don't fight for anything unless there's some guy standing behind them with 45 telling them if they don't fight he'll shoot their ass.
He thinks he fought to protect our 'freedom' taking orders from those who hate us for that freedom.
Oh. FUCK YEAH!
If he really fought for our freedom, Obama would be in prison along with 535 other traitors.
Sorry no freedom fighting done by the USMIL for a very very long time. The last time anybody fought for freedom in this country, they fought against the USGOV from 1861 -1865. Since then it's been imperialism. genocide, and propaganda.
Depleted Motherfucking Uranium Ammunition for the MOTHERFUCKING WIN!
FUCK YEAH FIGHT FOR FREEDOM FUCK YEAH AMERICA FUCK YEAH!
Not this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM
BTW, I unriddled my 11 year service after 5 years. You figure it out.
After you killed a bunch of your friends, call ME.
I'll just head to my local Popeye's, hoping they're running that $4.99 8 piece special I saw advertised during halftime.
I have thought about this for 12 years as I have lived on Social Security to support myself and my two young children after their father committed suicide when his business went bankrupt. (An early casualty of the economic collapse. He couldn't get those endless lines of credit from the Fed like Harley Davidson, McDonalds... ahhhh. those "free markets.") I have been preparing myself by consuming less, giving away everything, meditating more. I learned from living on a Caribbean island for 2 1/2 years with a 73-year-old Puerto Rican farmer, the poorest of the poor, the secret of life. "Look, see how pretty the plants they come." The greatest treasures are those within. With such a great attitude, nothing is needed to live a full life. Only those who cling to their gold, money, possesions, lifestyle, status, ego and identity. They will have a hard time. Let go now. Let go of everything. You have only your life to lose and the whole word to gain! OM SHANTI.
I am sorry for the tragedy you and your children and others have and continue to endure. If you lack the reconciliation with the LORD, then you will never have true peace, which you already know their is something still missing, and in the end; all will be like grasping at the wind; vanity.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMlv21zGARM (2 min) www.gty.org (best resource of truth)
A lot of preppers are preparing to become looters. They're storing things like crowbars, battering rams, and homemade tear gas. Security will be a growth industry for anyone with a gun and body armor.
Smith should be among the first to be someone's lawn jocket impaled on a metal rod.
'Prepper' Tyler Smith talks big while he's awake, but he has to go to sleep sometime.
Haha, yeah. Not very bright to give away your plan to kill and assault your neighbours. Acting like you've been top dawg in prison when people know you haven't been to prison gets you laughed at.
The checks will never stop, it is just that the checks that come will continue to buy less and less and less and ...
Looks good on paper, as they say...
I must be one of the few people left on planet Earth who receives no checks from any government.
when those checks stop my relative ability to earn money will go through the fuckin roof
There is a lot you have presumed with that statement. It shows that you are very young and energetic; that is a good thing when mixed with experience and understanding. All the best to you.
Obamacare was designed to rape and pillage that generations "nest eggs" and will continue to impoverish all those, like me, who are at the lower end of the middle-class. Many are one medical crisis away from bankruptcy and losing all they have worked for only to end up dependent on the government and/or family. Since the government has grown so large, so to has the State and many local governments as all are enslaved in debt, which is the Central Planners tool of corruption and control. Note all the fees being added to utility bills and any other dealings with government at all levels. This is the first of many waves of the oncoming Tsunami. And have you noticed the changes in the workplace benefits; being eaten away or removed in preparation for the US worker to be part of slavlandia? See the so-named "Greatest Generation" has become the generation who failed to teach their children the ways of the Lord and the nation is paying a tremendous price for that, the "mother of all mistakes".
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As for me and my household we will serve the LORD.
When the government checks stop, or simply start becoming worthless, it will be all of society that will be in trouble. 70% of the economy is consumer driven. It won't be just the zombies that will be in trouble, but the rest of us that make our living largely off of the zombies.
You don't understand what a zombie is......now.
Now it a sheeple
In three weeks, it is a desperate human willing to kill you for a pint of chili
I don't get checks from the government, and by the time I'm eligible for my slice of Freedoms, this shit hole will probably be turned into a 3rd world cinder block, full of Gargantuas.
Soon the dollar will be a small aluminum coin like the yen.
When the government checks stop, the number of "jobs that Americans won't do" will quickly drop to zero. Any businesses that still exist will be expected to fire all their immigrant workers and replace them with Americans. Those who don't comply will find a smoking cellar hole where their business used to be.
As long as my $100 Mutiliated Currency claim is processed by the treasury before the checks stop, I don't really care when it happens.
(My dog chewed up just less than half of a $100 bill I had sitting on the counter, two weeks ago)
No probs, yo. I's fin to robs me a bank durin da zombie pocalypse.
refer to the law of the high seas, this is from the Jordan Maxwell themes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQf_zuHUUzU
Anyone who remains in this system is destined to fail along with it. Guns & butter.
I prefer sardines and ammo.
The cheques will NOT stop.
The FED will keep priting money to supply treasury bills to the US Congress (because no one else will want to buy them at ZIRP).
And the currency will decline in value.....even faster than it already has.
You'll get your $2500 cheque....and a loaf of bread will be 500 bucks and it will cost $10,000 to fill your car with gas.
But the cheques won't stop.....at least until they are no longer worth the paper they are printed on.
Squid.
Pizzas are already $30.00 a pop in Emeryville, CA, because, in their infininte wisdom, the esteemed 'City Council" raised the minimum wage to $14.44/hour. And, the gubmint checks are still coming. See, everything is just wonderful now.
The cost of living just magically goes down and stuff in these liberal utopian centers of enconomic justice like Seattle and the SF Bay Area where it's suddenly more affordable with a "living wage" and stuff...
the day the checks stop would be the day the economy stops, bottom up collapse so fast it will be like a zombie movie
I know the author meant well, but this is a flawed premise. When gov't checks stop, that disastrous calamity will mean the US gov't and the dollar are out of business. It means there's no need to worry about "dollars" anymore, and it means you had better have already put some currency away which has been used throughout every disaster and calamity mankind has endured for 5,000 years. And of course, I'm referring to a case of good bourbon and a Cezanne painting or two.
At my age,
I expect I would give up and die ...
I had lots of wonderful adventures when I was younger. However, I no longer believe that I would be flexible enough to adapt to the hypothetical scenarios suggested in the article above. Rather, I expect that I would more likely become quickly, although relatively quietly, insane, and somewhat suicidal, rather than get motivated to try to rob and kill to keep living.
What is your age, and why would you not have the balls to kill off some that are the biggest criminals?
He's 37
I hate the premise of this "article". The check will never stop, they will just be paid in printed money, and anyone who has been responsible will be penalized with inflation. Those on "fixed income" will have to cut their lifestyles until they die.
spoken I have
I will buy 100 pounds of salt and sell them by the grain...ehhhhhhh
N*g*ers as you call them are a lot more jack bill than even a lot of you old financial people. Could you point your finger at them before they pointed it at you? Would there be a chance of the opposite happening? I'm in the peter pan generation, have only just survived the mental apocalypse, and should be dead afraid of the damn n*g*ers. Even as they read my posts, even as I dream of getting in my first gunfight, fps + zh. 3 factors. 1: the government hates free thinking, especially in lead form. 2: The masses will go for a reach around. 3: We live in the most prosperous, efficient economy in the history of the world. The only problem is who lives here. It will be really easy for everyone to see where the economy's going, after they solve the first collapse.
blugum jack didn't mean to be rayciss.
Government retirement and welfare payments will not stop.
They may, rather will, become substantially worthless (as in Ukraine) but they will not stop altogether.
That is exactly what happened in Wiemar Germany. Famously a lawsuit providing compensation for a wrongful death was settled for a sum that turned out to be the price of a box of matches when it was finally paid.
What will I do? I'll look the other way.
be lucky, that is all.
The US Empire of Wars and Chaos has been (magically) funded with $trillions, cutting grandma's $642 month soc sec. check is utterly nefarious.
The checks will not stop, only the purchasing power of the check.
Savings? HAHA. Not anymore. That's a deprciating asset in a ZIRP + Inflation environment (or currency devaluatoin if you prefer). The deficit spending won't stop, ergo the devaluatoin will continue. THe interest rate cannot be raised to equal or exceed real inflation, so the USD is headed to zero.
Government check? What's that? In my whole life, all I've ever done is send them money.
Now, if that stopped, it would be cause for a party IMO. And since I don't have any savings I believe I would be better off if the fedgov and most of the stategov just ceased to exist, right this instant. My income would certainly increase almost immediately.
I don't live near any FSA bases/installations. The fSA will have to campaign long and hard to get to me and also fight their way through lots of armed resistance first.
So fuck them. And fuck everybody who gets a check from Obama down to the mailman.
I bet everybody who sends a check every week/month/quarter/year would love to stop doing so. And for most of us payers (not beneficiaries of .gov largesse), we don't really get any benefits from the fedgov anyway. Unless you think the IRS, the EPA, OSHA, the DOD, the TSA, HSA, et al are helping you in some way.
The roof is on fire. We don't need no water let the motherfucker burn.
Burn motherfucker, burn.
"What Will You Do When The Government Checks Stop?"
An absurd proposition, for the following reasons:
1. The federal government combined with the central bank has an almost infinite capacity to create debt and money - they are many many many years away from any possible limit to their capacity to issue and debase.
2. The federal government has total control over laws, including passage and enforcement, and therefore has total control over what gets used as currency. The militarized police are the enforcers.
3. A HUGE growing majority of the population lives either paycheck-to-paycheck or on entitlements, ie they have no cash reserves and no financial asset savings of any significance. This huge majority of the population is totally captive to whatever laws and policies the federal government implements.
Result is that the federal government can keep issuing whatever they want AND mandate that WalMart accepts it for payment from the 90% of the population that has no other options.
The ONLY way that the USA government and central bank lose control and the "checks stop", is if the USD and treasuries are sold off aggressively internationally AND another currency supercedes the USD.
There was considerable possibility that the euro might supercedes the USD, but the hyper-socialist Europeans crashed and ended that fantasy.
The chinks are dreaming of supercedes the USD, but their system is FAR MORE corrupt, over-extended and fragile than the USA system, so I would not bet on the yuan over the USD.
Therefore USD reigns because there is nothing better.
It took us a 100,000 years to get 1 billion on this planet. In about 150 years we went from 1 to 7 billion people. What could possibly go wrong?
It took us a 100,000 years to get 1 billion on this planet. In about 150 years we went from 1 to 7 billion people. What could possibly go wrong?