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China Tests Most Dangerous Nuclear Weapon of All Time
Submitted by Zachary Zeck via The National Interest,
China conducted a flight test of its new intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) this month.
This week, Bill Gertz reported that earlier this month, China conducted the fourth flight test of its DF-41 road-mobile ICBM.
“The DF-41, with a range of between 6,835 miles and 7,456 miles, is viewed by the Pentagon as Beijing’s most potent nuclear missile and one of several new long-range missiles in development or being deployed,” Gertz reports.
He goes on to note that this is the fourth time in the past three years that China has tested the DF-41, indicating that the missile is nearing deployment. Notably, according to Gertz, in the latest test China shot two independently targetable warheads from the DF-41, further confirming that the DF-41 will hold multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRV).
As I’ve noted before, China’s acquisition of a MIRVed capability is one of the most dangerous nuclear weapons developments that no one is talking about.
MIRVed missiles carry payloads of several nuclear warheads each capable of being directed at a different set of targets. They are considered extremely destabilizing to the strategic balance primarily because they place a premium on striking first and create a “use em or lose em” nuclear mentality.
Along with being less vulnerable to anti-ballistic missile systems, this is true for two primary reasons. First, and most obviously, a single MIRVed missile can be used to eliminate numerous enemy nuclear sites simultaneously. Thus, theoretically at least, only a small portion of an adversary’s missile force would be necessary to completely eliminate one’s strategic deterrent. Secondly, MIRVed missiles enable countries to use cross-targeting techniques of employing two or more missiles against a single target, which increases the kill probability.
In other words, MIRVs are extremely destabilizing because they make adversary’s nuclear arsenals vulnerable to being wiped out in a surprise first strike. In the case of China, Beijing’s acquisition of a MIRVed capability is likely to force India to greatly increase the size of its nuclear arsenal, as well as force it to disperse its nuclear weapons across a greater sway of land to prevent China from being able to conduct a successful decapitation strike. Such a development in Delhi would upset the Indo-Pakistani nuclear balance, likely prompting Islamabad to take corresponding actions of its own.
China’s acquisition of a MIRVed capability is also likely to upset the strategic balance with Russia. As Moscow’s conventional military capabilities have eroded since the fall of the Soviet Union, Russia has leaned more heavily on nuclear weapons for its national defense. It therefore seeks to maintain a clear nuclear advantage over potential adversaries like China. Beijing’s acquisition of MIRVed missiles threatens to erode this advantage.
As Gertz’s notes, the U.S. intelligence community believes that the DF-41 will ultimately be able to carry up to 10 nuclear warheads. Such a development would likely force China to increase the size of its nuclear arsenal. To date, China and India (as well as the world’s other nuclear powers) have maintained relatively small nuclear arsenals compared with Russia and the United States.
The introduction of MIRVed technologies into the Asian nuclear balance may render this no longer true. For this reason— along with its long-range and solid fuel—the DF-41 is the most dangerous nuclear weapon in China’s arsenal.
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Rod Of God meet Pow Of Mao.
Don't fall for the establishments call for war. All of the wars are bankers's wars. If someone is pushing us toward war, you can be sure that they are working for the globalist bankers!
What bullshit we gave that technology to the USSR in 1972. Zero hedge is a fucking mouthpiece for the money counterfeiters now. Fucking pathetic. More War The Zionist are shitting their pants that China will get desperate and go to gold or silver and they are throwing this shit out there to justify nuking China back to the stone age, along with their stack of gold.
Actually, the guidance system for the Chi-Com ICBM's came courtesy of Bubba and a corporation called Loral Space for a pittance of campaign donations.
You may also remember (or not) former Sec of Commerce Ron Brown who "patriotically" paid the ultimate price for his country! ;-)
So...long Australian uranium?
>Our country is a mess.
>I listen to the people.
>I get the biggest crowds.
>I'll take jobs back from China.
>Their leaders are better. Their negotiators are better.
>There's nothing to apologize for.
>I love the Mexican people and their spirit.
>We have very stupid people negotiating for us.
>You know you're acting like you're the great reporter, bapbapa, you're not bringing up anything new.
>China manipulates their currency. I never thought I'd see it so fast again.
>They're not after Yemen, they're after oil.
>I've made a lot of money in all of these countries.
>Everybody hates us.
>Hillary was the worst. In the history of the United States.
>I've got relationships.
>Chine-Ah.
>China wants ANYTHING Trump.
>You're a very naive person.
>Our leaders are idiots. Total idiots.
>Try getting it out!
>You don't even know what you're talking about.
>You know what,
>Look,
>It's a very sad situation.
>Believe me, they will pay for the wall.
>I built a great empire.
>I will make that wall IM-PENETRABLE.
>You're so negative.
>Jeb will never take us to the promised land.
>America will be great again
>T R E M E N D O U S
China doesn't need a 7,000 mile range ICBM to strike India or Russia ........ just say'n.......I dont think China is developing it to start a central asia arms races
It feels like only minutes ago that North Korea was the enemy de jure.
Bah, we don't need to worry about any of this shit. Aliens will step in and save our asses:
http://redefininggod.com/2015/08/obama-the-antichrist-and-divine-interve...
Me thinks your MIRV is no threat to my SLBM.
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after giving china all americas manufacturing and jobs, along with the beverly
hillbillies class and taste to go with them, bombing us would be mighty ungrateful.
Yea, let Scooby write the next article on ZH? OK.
CHINA CREATED ISIS - proof.
(Cartoon of Chinaman teaching Jooshman how to put on ISIS costume)
Presented with no comment.
Zoinks!!!!
Newly flush Iran is interested.
Single warhead capability is so '50 s.
Glad I dont live on the west coast, looks like they are going to get a double dose of radiation fallout first from FUKUshima and next form a long dong missile
It's a veritable Doom mega chubby.
Everything under heaven is in chaos; the situation is excellent.
-- Mao Zedong (1893 – 1976)
#41
'We welcome China's peaceful rise. We believe that a strong and prosperous China is one that can help to bring stability and prosperity to the region and to the world'
U.S. President Barack Obama
14 February 2012
If the whiskey don't kill me, I'll live till I die.
Tex Ritter
oh not to worry, all well...
the Shoes of the Fisherman is coming to the UN to speak peace, isn't he?
Yeah, the rope-a-dope pope ('I'm dodgin', I'm duckin', I'm hoppin' and poppin', my adversary don't know where I'm gonna strike next') will preach hope at the UN - (he's hoping he can turn the UN into a global govt the Church can screw with, he's hoping he can get the Church in the global driver's seat, he's hoping for real geopolitical power...)
Not a Latin American persective.
Does HE need a prompter or a loan of Val Jarret?
Why are we worried about expensive Chinese MIRVs when they can send thousands of nukes over to the U.S. in containers of crap for WalMart?
Every time I see your name and avatar, I am reminded of an old song by 'The Fixx'.
So, maybe I'll win (saved by Zero).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp3YQEYcEhU
I don't sell soap on airplanes, like Tyler Durden does. Nevertheless, I am SAVED by ZERO (Hedge) and the contributors and commenters here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBot8SOLWBQ
EDIT ADDENDUM:
If you are truly 'stuck on zero', you have NOTHING. As a wise man (named Gerald Celente) once stated, 'If you've got NOTHING, you've got NOTHING TO LOSE!'
Food for thought, in the coming onslaught.
"Why are we worried about expensive Chinese MIRVs when they can send thousands of nukes over to the U.S. in containers of crap for WalMart? "
Yeah.
I think that China just demonstrated how very well their shipping containers go BOOOM!, white flash, mushroomy cloud and all...
It's really difficult to learn how to say 'Fuck the E.U.' in Latin (since this isn't his native language anyway). Of course, if you are discussing 'Estados Unidos' (E.U.); then Valerie's your best choice. Due to upgrades by the current 'HOTFW' Hussein Soetoro (blessed be his name), teleprompters are now available in the 'Popomobile' (as well as 'ONSTAR [tm]'). The 'Micheal Hastings' option has been pre-installed by Windows 10 (in case the Popo doesn't stick EXACTLY to his script).
OH SHIT!!!
Beijing to Houston
7,222 miles :)
http://www.travelmath.com/flying-distance/from/Beijing,+China/to/Houston...
Boom boom boom, lets go back to my room,
So we can do it all night and you can make it feel right,
Wooahh, boom, boom, boom, ......
Make no mistake, these ting tongs know how to party.
After what the nips did the chinks during the Rape of Nanking, i dont think its the US that needs to worry first up about how big a zipper heads bomb gets.
Besides doesn't "talk to the hand" protect us from nuclear warfare too?? I better call Sasqueena and get her baby daddies mommy to find out.
China and Russia have been upgrading their fallout shelters for a number of years now, they know a conflagration is likely.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaFB04g2w10&feature=player_detailpage
Damn, nmewn. Forgot all about that. +1998 for you, my friend.
Here's the Congressional Record of that timeline.
http://fas.org/news/china/1998/h980618-prc8.htm
And a nice article about it too
http://seniorcitizenspublicsquare.com/2012/04/10/how-china-conquered-ame...
Sorry, not true. That is unless you have a reference.
Loreal provided for launch abilities, with guidance being a small subset. There are substanciated claims that the US used this "traitorous" act to plant a lot of passive listening and data breach systems in the Chinese defese structure.
China's missiles do suck. Again, they look good and might appear capable but they are not good. Then again, these are nuclear devices.
Loral paid the largest fine ever under the Arms Export Control Act for something, for what, did they forget to dot an I or cross a T? This was AFTER Bubba ("President" Clinton) took the authority away from the Department of Defense and gave it to Commerce (Ron Brown) in order to even deal with the fucking Chi-Coms.
I don't need to reference jack shit, it's historical fact.
It's hysterical over here.
It is certainly no secret but definitely a fact the Clinton criminal gang has sold out the U.S to bring us to where it is today
I agree...when Bubba was pres it was like the door to the Jet Propulsion Lab in California was left open for the Chinese to wander about and pick up technologies as they pleased. Some say it advanced China by 20 years. This may have had somethinmg to do with the "most favored state" and a large loan of Mao gold to the Fed et al. Also in the deal was access to IRA stream of payment for the gold. just sayin"
I wonder what would have happened if Howard Hughes had managed to live a little longer.
Fucking SUMMA CORPORATION broke up the Hughes companies in to tiny little bits that were RIPE FOR THE PICKING by the globalist industrialist corporatocracy that now inhabits the 10-square.
NOTICE: It was HUGHES ARRCRAFT COMPANY, HUGHES TOOL COMPANY, et.al., NOT 'Hughes (insert moniker) CORPORATION'. Fucking LORAL is ONE of the offshoots of the SUMMA CORPORATE TAKEOVER.
The Chinese have nuclear-tipped MIRV's now, along with a REALLY LARGE stack of GLD (PHYZ). Have you ever heard the term 'MY way, or the HIGHWAY'? The CONUS AT LARGE is going to be SO SORRY that they bought that patriotic rhetoric spewed from the mouths of Bush, Bush, Clinton and the like (for about 5 seconds; that is, before their nation is eridicated before their eyes [which are literally melting from thier sockets]).
By the way, I'm a natural-born citizen, still residing here.
The ONLY OTHER OPTION is total enslavement and servitude to the 18-trillion (PLUS!) debt-load that is saddled upon the population of the CONUS by the International Zion Bankster Elitists whose true goal is the eradication of the human race (but first, total debasement and enslavement).
In all my years of research, it seems that old Howard was 'taken care of' much like Micheal Jackson was (a 'trusted physician', and all). A little 'M.K' here or there... I just poked in 'CIA DIRECTOR' as a search, but GOOKLE wanted to suggest 'CAST OF SOYLENT GREEN'. Interesting! The current one has a strong-sounding Mick (Irish cat-lick) name ('John. O. Brennan'), nominated and appointed by that illegal alien Kenyan motherfracker Barry Soetoro, (of course). They (CIA) are currently in command of the 'Drone Ops' in the greater Middle East (in case you don't know this fact).
BUBBA wasn't PRES. HILLARY was in charge of THAT household.
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2007-09-08/news/0709070474_1_hillary-cl...
September 8, 2007|Helen Goodman, Delray BeachI agree...when Bubba was pres it was like the door to the Jet Propulsion Lab in California was left open for the Chinese to wander about and pick up technologies as they pleased. Some say it advanced China by 20 yuears. This may have had somethinmg to do with the "most favored nation" and a large loan of Mao gold to the Fed et al. Also in the deal was access to IRA stream of payment for the gold. just sayin"
Again, you miss the point.
Take 5 minutes and look at the number of disasters the Chinese had in getting satellites up in the mid to late 90s. It was because of this that Loral started getting those (illegal?) contracts. The fines don't mean shit when you make billions afterwards.
If I wanted to bug or sabotage your house I would pose as a neighbor and offer to help you, especially if you had been through a series of accidents on the launch pad. And if I wanted to fuck up your home security I would put blanks in your pistol and set up a switch to disarm the survellience system. Right in front of you. Take it a step further - I am going to let you use my cell phone, for free, right after I put tracker software on it.
Ron Brown is dead, he got shot in the head.
No I got your point, like the Dutch company Gemalto, the NSA and the Brits regarding cell phones...a Trojan Horse.
But thats not the point at all, the transfer of >>>that type of technology<<< saved the Chi-Com's decades of R&D and billions of yuan, they simply reverse engineered all of it, debugged it if you will.
They paid for the technology, not Loral parts.
And yes, Ron Brown was assassinated ;-)
Yeh,when they put a man into space, then they can be dancing the macarena.
China's missiles do suck. Again, they look good and might appear capable but they are not good. . . .
You don't have to be real good when you are using a 1 megaton warhead. If you're off by a couple of miles it really doesn't matter a whole lot as the destruction zone is 30+ miles wide.
Loreal adds volume and bounce with rich emollients.
Gold fishes!!
Ron Brown survived the plane crash.
yes nmewn--I remember that well--- Loral Space and money to the Bill for the fix to transfer secret tech and the death of Ron Brown in a plane that flew into the mountain ---The Clintons are neck deep in murder and treason-- everyone they touch is pulled into the vortex-- Of all the traitors in the white house from LBJ on they are probably the worst--although the Bush crime family is no slouch--
Of course those pesky nuclear subs can be a real pain in the ass
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/BROWN/TEARS/tears.html
The Bernankster wants war to restore the US eonomy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTY0Ir43z-M
Lets break some windows!
Or... the Bernanksters want a war to finish off the US.
I would say, without any embarrassment that there was some Philistine gene pool added to to the Hebrew mix and even as a recessive trait, some people just turn out stupid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistines
Goes the same way for the same for every invaded 'culture' though, especially Europeans.
What was nice in the US was that we were just the outcasts, Antipodes were the criminals.
History i can read , discriminate and digest.
The future I cannot,
But if you wish to remain slaves of the Bankers and pay for the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits." -- Sir Josiah Stamp, President of the Bank of England in the 1920s, the second richest man in Britain
Oddly enough the US has gotten rid of all it's MIRVs and our missle defense is a complete failure. Oh and most of our missles are in fixed silos whie russia/chinas are on mobile launchers. Almost like we're being set up.
http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html
Hopefully the silos are hardened to EMP.
SLBMs
Yea except as part of the START treaty we've agreed to keep most of our subs unready and in port. And the START treaty only covers Russia and not China.
https://books.google.com/books?id=9JZfS059tOsC&pg=PA115&lpg=PA115&dq=us+...
http://www.cracked.com/article_19449_6-images-abandoned-weaponry-you-won...
I have doubts that the former Soviets are up to speed.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-33151125
You only need two or three operational boomers to do the trick...
Indeed......
Attrition, the Best Possible First Strike Scenario, is therefore Insufficient as a Military Strategy........
Unless the Country that gave us Sun Tzu has a Strategy of Suicide.........
Parenthetically, applying to All Other Countries.........
Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile
Ut-oh, I see there's a down arrow hater out there now . . .
SLBM's are like microwave ovens (or men with 'premeture ejaculation' issues).
They all get it DONE (before you know it)!
I enjoy your avatar picture, DW. Is that a selfie of John McCain; or is it the representation of every person who votes 'D' and 'R' within occupied CONUS?
The 'downvoter' probably doesn't believe in the physical existence of "submarines" (as they are a 'wild lunatic-fringe tinfoil-hat-wearing conspiracy theory'). The CHINESE (a peace-loving people, NOT a war-like race of Mongul hordes) absolutely DENY the existence of ANY ships that are even REMOTELY 'warlike' in nature. They (the 'children') are following the examples of great nations EVERYWHERE, including the USSR, CONUS, British Empire, Spain, France, Rome, etcetera. Jaques Cousteau's ghost personally certifies EVERY "UNDERSEEBOTEN" built to be 'free of agressive tendencies' before it's official launch (EVERYWHERE ON THE GLOBE). SLBM's DO, NOT, EXIST, and this beach is SAFE TO SURF, GODDAMNIT!
CORRECTION to the Tylers' headline:
'China Tests THEIR Most dangerous Nuclear Weapon... (but NOT Of All Time; As This Honor Is Reserved For 'Tzar Bomba')'
<S>
I hope that that ocular-rectal disfunction syndrome clears up soon for you.
<S> off
I enjoy your avatar picture, DW. Is that a selfie of John McCain; or is it the representation of every person who votes 'D' and 'R' within occupied CONUS?
Yes . . . . to both.
Scotty - Here's a link to a documentary on YouTube about Tzar Bomba - It was originally designed to be 100 MEGATONS but in the end they scaled it back to "only" 50 megatons as the scientists in the USSR were fearful that the larger version could cause real damage to the atmosphere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYUP7zJ0CwU
FYI - A 100 megaton nuclear weapon would have a destruction area in the 100 mile wide (diameter) range - i.e. one bomb would wipe out all of NYC, Long Island, Staten Island and the burbs in NJ - yikes!!!
"Oh and most of our missles are in fixed silos whie russia/chinas are on mobile launchers."
You've been drinking the neocon Kool Aid. The US has enough missiles in submarines alone to lay waste to most of the planet, not to mention a "couple" of air based systems. I was born in the '60's, so I'm young enough to remember when this supposed threat of nuclear war was not laughable. China is merely reminding the world, which seems to be run by neocons who think nuclear war is winnable, that it is not.
Look I hate the neocons and all the useless wars they've started, but this is a real threat. Research the START treaties if you don't believe me, they unilaterally take most of our nuclear sub launched weapons offline, leaving us very vulnerable to a Russia/China EMP-First Strike knockout punch. Only the NWO will save us then, as planned, while we're on our knees.
OH, LORD (NWO MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE):
I PRAY thee, SAVE US by putting the ZIOCON GOD of (?) IN CHARGE!
Only HER/SHE/IT will SAVE US from WAR and DEATH!.
Look at me. I'm on my fracking KNEES, now, ZIO-ENTITY...
PLEASE, lord, let the Ziocon 'masters of the illuminated knowlewdge sent to us from your sickening and defiling Diety' blow IRAN the fuck UP with your 'HOLY NUCLEAR OPTION' to DISTRACT all the others, before the REAL war starts!
A "Russia/China EMP-First Strike knockout punch" sounds too SCARY (almost like a Mohammad Ali WWF Prize-fight thing). Couldn't you just make your slaves re-watch the 9/11 official story thingie, in order to scare them just a LITTLE?
FUCK YOU, SMG.
We'd still have Jesse Ventura though so we'd still win.
He's an ex-frogman dont u know.
".......The US has enough missiles in submarines alone to lay waste to most of the planet, not to mention a "couple" of air based systems.........
"Nuff Said"
We have asymmetric weapons. We just don't talk about them.
"Ruff Said"
Oddly enough the US has gotten rid of all it's MIRVs . . . .
TOTAL BULLSHIT!!! Almost ALL ICBM's and SLBM's used by the USA have MIRV'd warheads. The only nukes that aren't MIRV'd are the short range tactical nuclear missles. Get your facts straight dumb-ass.
I forgive you for your disinformation.
http://allthingsnuclear.org/the-end-of-mirvs-for-u-s-icbms/
I didn't downvote you, but you might want to read the artile to which you've so confidently linked:
Yea sorry, try to refute some of the trolls a little too quick on here using the old google. (also it is Friday Adult beverage night) However the US has gotten rid of all of it's MX missilles, and as the article stated it has de-MIRV'd all of it's ICBMs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGM-118_Peacekeeper
And as I've stated above the US took offline most of it's sub launched nukes Mirv'd or not offline due to the START treaty.
So my point is, due this addition to China's arsenal, and the fact that the majority of the US nukes are in fixed silos, the US is vulnerable to a first strike nuclear attack. Ignore that at your peril.
Now that warheads and missiles have GPS accuracy, MIRVs are no longer necessary. Ditto for high yields that destroy a wide area. These were only needed when it was impossible to hit a target dead on.
The US deterrent is plenty dangerous. You can't wipe out bombers, silos and subs in a first strike. Try and you will suicide yourself. The chinks and ruskies know this, which is why they largely behave themselves.
Stage one of the next shooting war, all satellites go bye bye. I have a feeling the others have planned it, and have programmed they're warheads to reach targets without satellite guidance.
Dirty little secret: US ICBMs have long had great precision, which is required for first-strike ability against silos. Yet, the propaganda is that we have nukes mostly for defensive purposes. Of course Russian mobile launchers would be an issue if we didn't have satellites.
Hardly. US owns NATO and NATOS nukes are every fucking where.
One half of Putins sabre rattling has been about NATO nukes being plonked on its borders.
The US is nothing but ultra aggressive when it comes to the where, why and how of nuclear launch capability.
Correctamundo!
All Wars Are Bankers Wars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKnF1HEUwuo
Excellent video.
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Were they woring for MI6?
How do we go to war with them considering?
No worries. Chinese never had war of aggression. Besides after the what the bankers have done to US, it's easier, cleaner to just buy it up, than blow it up.
I can remember, through Clinton's "Commerce Dept", when Bernie Swartz, head of Loral Corp, was allowed to sell China it's guidance system for their ICBMs to give them better accuracy. And the stated reason for the sale was to better direct their weather satellites. Sure.
MIRV capacity is courtesy William J. Clinton and Robert Reich
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=16106
True that. And it wasn't for pittance. Those funds (and still flowing ones) allow the Clintons to live their "middle america" life style. Too rich to pay taxes but too poor to pay their bills. Sickos.
By the way, fuck you bush and obama and your fascism.
jb
Does anyone remember that Curtis LeMay wanted to use nukes in Cuba and Doug MacArthur was thinking of using them in Korea or that the US actually used the damned things twice? Or that at least a couple of US pols have mentioned using them on Iran? I'm not half as concerned about China as I am the numb skulls who have control of the US arsenal.
Anyone ever wonder how and why that Hydrogen bombs were used in WWII which ended everything, yet that sure as hell didn't stop Korea and Vietnam from happening as well as every other fucking war ever since Nagasaki and Hiroshima???
Hmmmm....wonder why that is? (MIC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
Full version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gahL5j4ack
Anyone ever wonder how and why that Hydrogen bombs were used in WWII . . .
Sorry to bust your bubble but the bombs used in WWII against Japan were fission weapons using uranium (Hiroshima) and plutonium (Nagasaki). Hydrogen bombs (i.e. fusion weapons) were not even invented until the 1950's.
TKO
Backhanded bitchslap to the outclassed lightweights.
whatever, Dickweed, with your head shoved up your ass trying to suck your little wang...
Meant "atomic" bomb...big fucking deal. But with your head shoved up your ass then obviously you missed the actual point of my question, which of course you couldn't answer or understand.
Bust my bubble???? You make no fucking sense at all. I wasn't trying to make a statement about the type of fucking bombs they were, ya fuckin' Dickweed.
Type of fucking bomb has nothing to do with the point I was making, but with your head shoved so far up your ass all day long just like every other Kardashitard, I can't expect you to have understood that.
Perfect name and picture for a total fucking dipshit. At least you know yourself. A shithead and properly pictured as well to prove it right along with your statement which also proves what a fucking shithead you are. Fuck off.
Sticks and stones Pal ;-)
Like this nonsense wasn't planned from the get-go, which is why they passed NAFTA, GATT, and MFN for China, it was all part of creating a new enemy so that we can justify perpetual permawar. Once again, the military-industrial complex wins, and the rest of us lose. Gosh, isn't living in an oligarchy just ever so much fun?
Trump to speak in 30 min to over 30,000 in Alabama...BOOM. Trump will handle this right...Double BOOM. Can't wait to see what he says about markets.
There are enough safeguards in the system that no one should suffer a catastrophic loss.
(snikker)
Yeah, no one's been talking about the MIRVs since Gore and the Canklesaurus sold the plans to the Chinese back when Bill was prez.
The Clinton-Loral-China axis
http://www.wnd.com/1998/05/1127/
Clinton Defends China Satellite Waiver
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/05/22/china.money/
Clinton Was Warned Against China Launch
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/may/23/news/mn-52739
Just checked Walgreens and they are all out of SPF 10000000 Bull Frog skin lotion.
Trump is a foreign policy disaster, still thinks USA can act with impunity like it perhaps once could at the height of its might.
Yes, obviously we must prostrate ourselves before the world and let them have their way with us.
Its a little to late to start getting all empathetic to the rest of the world's desires. If its not quiet apparent yet, we will likely have them all gnawing at our necks before long anyway, so we might as well look out for our shit while we still can.
China just tested their long range nuke delivery system. Maybe we should go run over and suck their dick right quick, just for insurance.
It's obvious that the days of US expecting the rest of the world to prostrate themselves so US can have their way with them are coming to an end.
FIFY
No you shouldn't, but USA should try to survive, and it wont survive by overestimating its own power. Like bossing other nations around in seas named after those other nations on the other side of the world isn't really going to work. How about fixing america itself, fill some potholes, throw out some tribesmen.
Send in the cocksuker Obama that shouild do it.
What makes you think that?
I don't Know what he thinks.(aside from Mar Largo)
Despite his setbacks I recognize a craftsman's work when I see it.
Maybe not for me, but craftmans work lasts for ages.
Plain and simple kids...if you are hearing about it now...they have had it for several years.
Starting to sound like the oligarchs blew up their port, timing was suspicious anyway. Probaby just sent in a little package where they knew it would mix with something good. Apparently they are not heeding the warning.
It is important to not confuse maliciousness with profound stupidity. Something bad happened and a lot of people got hurt. Why would anyone want to blow up and poison "a couple" of square miles?
Currency war for starters, the proverbial shot across the bow. It remains to be seen how long these clowns can keep the wheels on with China's down pressure and there is an election coming.
Hory Shit!
India? Russia? You must be joking.
It's only dangerous to somebody who would attack China. That list is very short. Only one country.
Tensions in the world keep rising and every nation is enhancing its military capabilities. You can thank the Nobel Prize Winner who has bombed seven countries and the Neocons who have made wars their main strategy for power and control after the collapse of the USSR.
China has 250 nuclear warheads compared to 7100 for the US
http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat
China and the US are already having confrontations in the South China Sea. US has accused China of hacking US sites and promised retribution:
The Obama administration has determined that it must retaliate against China for the theft of the personal information of more than 20 million Americans from the databases of the Office of Personnel Management, but it is still struggling to decide what it can do without prompting an escalating cyberconflict. (NYTimes)
Hillary Clinton Says China Is ‘Trying to Hack Into Everything That Doesn’t Move’http://time.com/3946275/hillary-clinton-china-hacking-cyberwarfare-usa/
This will not end well.
Yes, isn't it interesting that we have been turning the world on its head, starting shit everywhere.....at the same time as we are shrinking our military by record amounts....and the rest of the world is arming up,even Japan.
I wonder how THAT will work out?
I can tell you honestly that your perception is skewed by the information readily available to you.
It Happens to all of us.
Recognize that for all we can know, we will not know enough.
Yet, with what we've got we must carry on.
(rereading, sounds stupid and cliche.ald)
and the US has tried and already succeeded hacking into everything that moves and doesn't move. Ask Merkel, Hollande, and every other human being on the planet. It's only bad when the other guy does it tho, and only destabilizing when the other guy has a MIRV.
This is our world. If you demonstrate weakness OR stupidity, you become a target. If you instigate crap with your neighbors, goading them into a fight, you damned well better be prepared. But if you think preparedness is instigating attacks you have obviously slept through history classes.
Having a strong military is exactly the same as having ample guns and ammo in your closet. Its what is done with those weapons that defines if they are evil or a gift from god.
These are not normal times and timidness and public demonstrations of empathy may seem the proper thing to do, but IT IS TOO LATE.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/RL33640.pdf
Lol i guess thats why you are such an ignorant. Peddling the old bullshit. Update yourself fanboy.
when you fell out of the top of the stupid tree you must have hit every branch on the way down... that report is as current as they come and is presented as-is without comment... you can attack me all you want (like I give a shit) but facts are facts...
"Hillary Clinton Says China Is ‘Trying to Hack Into Everything That Doesn’t Move"
so did her husband
So, it's okay to critique China on this site. Even maybe war monger on
China. Russia, not so much. Just sayin'.
I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.
J. Robert Oppenheimer
I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.
Ronald McDonald
"Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." - Vishnu from the Mahabharata
"Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." - Janet Yellen
The line is spoken to Arjuna by Krishna, who is revered in Hindu traditions as one of the major incarnations of Vishnu; some assert that the passage would be better translated "I am become Time, the destroyer of worlds."
The Bhagavad Gita... is the most beautiful philosophical song existing in any known tongue.
Robert Oppenheimer
From Wiki
Saturn bitchez!
I agree with you Just Observing, that translations are always open to alternative versions, and some I prefer more than others.
The Bhagavad Gita presents some of the most intriguing justifications for murder systems. The most important passages, in my view, are when Krishna is on the battlefield, being counseled about having to kill another family member.
Of course, the earlier phases of that story, when Krishna was a young boy, and then an adolescent, are far more enjoyable. However, it is when the story of Krishna turns to the issues regarding the murder systems that the basic philosophy is put to its greatest test.
Yet, in m view, there are too many passages in the those stories that reveal the degree to which how people think in their physics, so do they think in their metaphysics. (Similarly so, for the notions of biology, supporting metabiology, and so on and so forth ...) I tend to think that we should develop better creative syntheses between post-modernizing science and ancient mysticism. In that regard, the Bhagavad Gita is a very useful source. However, it continues to be that those who respect that are typically too unable to become more critical of that.
Oppie may have known her.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer
Another Princeton under achiever.
Brahma ~ Creator
Vishnu ~ Preserver
Shiva ~ Destroyer
road-mobile????
they talk about MIRV but not it being road-mobile. typical to not notice what's important.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-41
ps. it is road mobile.
I swear everyone in a position of power is a retarded psychopath. Sooner or later some fuck nut is going to want to use these things........., oh wait......
Well, let's just hope they show the US the same kind of mercy the US has showed other sovereign nations.
Wait, scratch that...
EXACTLY
There will be no mercy, so buck up. Or you can just hope they only ass rape you and not kill you.
After WWI people were rightly tired of war. They elected leaders who pledged to keep us out of war. Leaders who cut the military and pursued more isolationist policies....yet they just couldn't help themselves. they wanted to right the wrongs of the world, as they saw them. They pursued sanctions and supplied their allies...and guest what? We suddenly found ourselves in war, no military, no industry...nothing.
This is where we are now. We have never looked weaker in decades.
Not only weaker, we have lost any moral high ground we may have once had. We'll have a hard time explaining away the atrocities we heaped on the rest of the world as we beg not to be Hiroshimasized.
Payback is a bitch...
And the East and the West met in a small town called Killeverybodyville.
The psycopathic middle east says we'll meet you in Roma.
So lets use the recent move to a free(er) floating currency, something many nations are doing, to really piss em off. Let's accuse them of currency 'manipulation' when they really did the opposite. They de-pegged from the dollar.
Only currencies 'backed' by 'confidence in the system' can float.
Currencies backed by something tangible are easy to evaluate.
Yes, MIRVs are very destabilizing. Single-warhead nukes are essentially self-disarming. It's a one-for-one exchange. It costs one nuke missile to take out one of the opponent's nuke missiles. MIRVs changed that equation so that the only way to "win" (I use the term loosely) an all-out nuclear war is to strike first.
To add to the problem. If the DF-41 is road mobile, it is also ship mobile. These things could, and probably would, be sitting in the holds of Chinese ships all over the globe.
I wonder if they would fit in a 43 foot container? http://maritime-connector.com/ship/wana-bhum-9308663/
Wikipedia reports a length of about 69 feet (21 meters).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10181736/North...
Bankers controlling MIRV's s nothing new but we are getting closer and closer to a Biblical depopulation scenario.
Japan managed to set off 3 "really dirty" bombs and no one even noticed. It is almost like nukes aren't even dangerous any more.
HILARIOUS
ZACK ZECK IS A DICK
All sane people on this planet know of China's world power, military and economically. Gone are the days when Nixon first went to China on behalf of the worlds money men.
All countries are important, but China, India, Russia Japan and the US/EU/NATO need to work together for the common good, which includes survival of the species on this planet. They have a number of tasks at hand, but the most important ones are to get a grip on the absurdity that is the worlds current economic system and the work that must be done to deny Islamists, (any Islamists,) a path to a nuclear weapon.
All other problems are solvable in due time.
Here is your distraction story for the market rout.
Another present to China from our Israeli allies?
And we all want to thank Bill and Hillary for this. Can you imagine if Clintons held the presidency again, we would all be speaking Chinese.