Imagine that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) was a corporation, with its shares owned by the nation's major pharmaceutical companies. How would you feel about the regulation of medications? Whose interests would this corporation be serving? Or suppose that major oil companies appointed a small committee to periodically announce the price of a barrel of crude in the United States. How would that impact you at the gasoline pump?
Such hypotheticals would strike the majority of Americans as completely absurd, but it's exactly how our banking system operates.
The Federal Reserve is literally owned by the nation's commercial banks, with a rotation of the regional Reserve Bank presidents constituting 5 of the 12 voting members of the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC), the body that sets targets for certain interest rates. The other 7 members of the FOMC are the D.C.-based Board of Governors—which includes the Fed chairperson, currently Janet Yellen—and are nominated by the President. The Fed serves its owners and patrons—the big banks and the federal government, while the rest of Americans get left behind.
The Federal Reserve has the ability to create legal tender through mere bookkeeping operations. By the simple act of buying, for example, $10 million worth of bonds, the Federal Reserve literally creates $10 million worth of money and adds it into the system. The seller's account goes up by $10 million once the Fed's monies are received. Nobody's account gets debited for $10 million. This is a tremendous amount of power for an institution to possess, and yet the Fed shrouds itself in secrecy and is accountable to no one.
In December 2008, Congress summoned then-Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke to provide information concerning the enormous "emergency liquidity" programs that had begun during the financial crisis earlier that fall—all the new acronyms Wall Street analysts would come to know, such as TAF (Term Auction Facility), PDCF (Primary Dealer Credit Facility), and TSLF (Term Securities Lending Facility). Bernanke did not need Congress' permission to conduct those programs, but even worse, he refused to disclose the recipients of the $1.2 trillion in short-term loans that we now know were being administered behind closed doors. This staggering secret loan payouts doesn't even include hundreds of billions in "swaps" to foreign central banks. Bernanke's rationale was that if the Fed announced the names of the big banks being rescued, then depositors and investors would flee, thus defeating the whole purpose of the rescue operations.
Americans then and now were lectured that the trillions in loans and asset purchases were all for their own good and eventual benefit, to resuscitate the credit markets and bolster home values. Yet the truth remains—it is Wall Street that benefits from the Fed at the expense of Main Street. To make things worse, in October 2008—one month after Lehman Brothers collapsed and precipitated the worst of the financial crisis—the Fed began exercising a new policy of paying interest on reserves. The Fed began to subsidize and directly pay the nation's bankers not to make loans to their customers and keep their reserves parked on deposit with the Fed.
Today, Fed officials can give all sorts of technical explanations for that policy—a move that remains in effect today. Yet your average depositor received no such direct subsidy and likely still receives almost no interest on short term deposits.
It's unfortunately in keeping with Fed policies that disproportionately favor wealth—like low interest rates, a policy benefiting those that have the most assets and first access to borrowing, not for people who have little or no capital.
No matter how much the Fed protests to the contrary, it shows little regard for the average Joe or Jane. Consider the types of assets it bought as the Fed's balance sheet exploded from $905 billion in the beginning of September 2008 to $2.2 trillion by the end of the year. (The Fed currently holds some $4.5 trillion in total assets, after the various rounds of "quantitative easing.")
Rather than bailing out struggling homeowners who were underwater, with higher mortgage debt than their homes were worth, the Fed instead loaded up on U.S. Treasuries (its own IOUs) and mortgage-backed securities—the very same "toxic assets" that reflected the horrible judgment of many investment bankers and the ratings agencies that signed off on the shenanigans. It is no coincidence that the federal government was able to run trillion-dollar-plus deficits for four consecutive years with no concern from the financial markets; everyone knows the Fed stands in the wings, willing to "print" new legal tender and sop up Uncle Sam's IOUs (which eventually come due, as we are now seeing in Greece).
When it comes to money, politicians are often seen as the least trustworthy. But in the debate over income and wealth inequality, few people point the finger at the biggest benefactor of the wheeler dealer crony capitalists: the Federal Reserve. The nation's central bank, which regulates all other banks and has the power to create money simply by buying assets, should be under the utmost scrutiny. Yet, perversely, members of Congress have to fight an uphill battle just to audit the Fed. We do not want to politicize monetary policy (as our detractors allege), but rather simply shine a very bright light on this unaccountable and unchecked (and thus entirely un-American) power. By doing this, we may finally be able to rein it in.


FDA is owned by the largest pharmaceutical companies.
Let's all remember the biggest threat to humanity and our country is! It's the fed! Support the only candidate who is anti-fed: Rand Paul. Donate to his moneybomb on September 7th! Half of all the sales from now throgh the 7th of the candles with silver coins (https://www.etsy.com/shop/ScentSavers?ref=hdr_shop_menu) will go to Rand's moneybomb on September 7th. I am not profiting from this at all. This is just my way to help the only candidate who is pro-liberty!
No other candidate hash history to show that he/she is against the Federal Reserve and central banking!
People ask if the markets are going to keep falling, I tell them yes unless the fed steps in to stop it with another round of QE. They may know what it is or not, but I can see their opinion on QE in their eyes as soon as they think it can stop the crash. They are all for it. I direct them to this explanation on how we got here and why. For most I doubt it will change their opinion.
I say scrap it. End the FED. This fiat ponzi charade is no longer acceptable.
There are many proven alternatives that can invigorate economies, maintain financial stability and escape the exploitation slavery of compound interest.
History has shown it can work: the Greenback, Silver Certificates and Labour Certificates successfully employed by Lincoln, Kennedy and the German people, respectively. They never had a problem... wait
The banking and insurance sector should get down to less than 10% of the economy for any meaningful change and Glass Steagal to be reinstated.
It is too large, but why have central banks and central planning at all. Why do people think elite men can plan an economy and a system better thn God himself has created. Free markets always, eventually win out becuase they are markets that God created!
Imagine that, a beakon of light in the middle of the night.
True. But who or what really is a friend? I know a lot of people. Are they my friends. Just wondering.
The Federal Reserve does not exist without the full support of the US Federal Government.
END THIS FEDERAL .GOV NOW!
So the greedy Zionist jew bankster cartel isn't looking out for the best interests of the average American?
Well fuck me up the ass and call me Obama....I'm shocked!
Average American = 'Goyim'. They have a name for us. Please use it as they would.
The Federal Reserve does not exist without the full support of the US Federal Government.
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You are wrong. Because the Fed is the owner of the US government.
The US government - is a decorative power of the two-party.
Fed - is the real power in the United States of the one ruling party.
I mean a real power of one-party system in the real US government. It is the party in power in the face of big banking business. The Fed is the executive body of the banking government. The Fed is a real and highest power in US.
Kill the Fed - Buy Gold!
The FED HAS BEEN MY FRIEND for quite a long time.
How else could I have afforded my GOLD without their Market Manipulation to keep the prices depressed???
They have done me, as well as many of you, a large favor, by keeping Gold and Silver on sale.
They have just fucked all of those unwise people that thought that paper has real value.
Of course Rand Paul wants Gold to be unaffordable and in the hands of very few.
That is why he does not point this fact out.
... and THIS is how it's done.
Government is an unnecessary evil.
I agree that it needs scrapped. But it never was acceptable. Thats why the creators of the Fed traveled, met and designed the plan all in secret (see Creature from Jeckyl Island). That's why it was passed in signed on December 23 when the politicians were home for Christmas and couldnt stop it.
Here is Ron Paul's brother on the Federal Reserve and the bankrupt America (very short video): http://popularliberty.com/7173/brother-ron-paul-fed-reserve
Dood, they knew back then...
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6110/6255620851_8c7fb3dcee_b.jpg
Oh they knew. Thats why they had to get it done behind closed doors and not in the spotlight or when the majority of Congress was in DC. Its hard to believe that we have let it go on for this long. We need to raise awareness of this issue ourselves. It's obvious that they shut out and ignore anyone who talks about the evil Fed!
That picture reminded me of the NRO logo: http://cdnph.upi.com/sh/th/i/UPI-6711386342503/2013/13863441235952/NRO-uses-Earth-devouring-octopus-logo-for-latest-classified-satellite-launch.jpg
Wonder if that is intended to put it right in front of our faces. Just like they did when they changed the FRNs to look even more like monopoly money: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f2/0d/9b/f20d9b336c8c2e5caf32f4f33e0fb04a.jpg
This picture needs to updated with the new 100s that are yellow.
Kill the Fed - Buy Gold!
Rand needs to decide which side he is on. He supported Mitch McConnell and we are all suffering for that lack of judgement.
What's it gonna be Rand? Loyalty to your fellow Republicans?
Or can you make the hard decisions and justify them?
I called on you to run in 2008 for POTUS as a Libertarian. Anyone searching my name can find the story at Nolanchart.com
But I have to say you have only reached a 1/4 of your potential. Quit playing nice with the Republican Party and Republican leadership.
They are indeed your Achilles Heel Squared.
That's where I stopped reading. If author doesn't understand that the FDA is owned as in financed and controlled by the big pharma companies it's pointless to read the rest.
Exactly. Big pharma may not "own" the FDA but the revolving door means they sure as shit control it, which is close enough.
Until the greatest shit show on Earth ends, then you are , so to speaks, up shits creeks without a paddle.
Until the greatest shit show on Earth ends, then you are , so to speaks, up shits creeks without a paddle.
Don't forget Big Ag.
It's way past time to end this parasitical SCAM!
But first, we rape the horses!
LOL. Dumbass.
Parasites are typically much smaller than its host. Not true in this case!
Imagine that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) was a corporation, with its shares owned by the nation's major pharmaceutical companies. How would you feel about the regulation of medications?
Huh, here I was thinking every govt agency was privately owned/run...
And fuck rand paul
Funny you mention that. Just last night, I was fucking Rand Paul in the arse, and he told me that he secretly LOVES the Fed.
No more lovin' for him...
Was this before or after the horse(s)?
Enjoy your hobbies but no need to tell me about them.
Read James Madison's Notes on the Federal constitution. Paper money (sic) was absolutely barred. The fed is an illegal criminal enterprise.
It is curious that no one really makes this argument. My understanding is that the constitution is pretty clear what a dollar is.
Of course no where in the constitution does the world 'marriage' appear either and we all know how that turned out...
Correct.
And Madison wasn't the only one; the Framers were crystal clear about the power to coin money and emit bills of credit being exclusively placed in the branch nearest the people: the congress.
I own a great deal of what they wrote during, and especially after, the Convention. There has never been a period in human history where so much correspondence about the meaning of something as historic, and as profound (the last, best hope for man) as that document, and the period between the signing and ratification (1787 and 1789, respectively), ever.
It was a truly remarkable period never graced upon us again.
I wish Americans were as excited by their profound beginning as so many seem to be about much of the trivial present.
Were they, malformations like the Fed would never have survived.
With the power in the hands of the individual to know today, we have never been left with fewer excuses for being incapable.
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I heard that the Fed not only hates womyns, but the ALSO don't think black lives matter!
Let's get them!!!
When we're done we'll BBQ the royal babies!
If this argumentation against this monopoly is a product of reasoning, is it any wonder that the institution of fractional reserve counterfeiting is a non-stop steamroller destined to keep on a rollin'?
When the false terms of an adversary are accepted as true, then one stands in very quick sand.
Too bad there is so much faith in this "reasoning."
Neither was Asley Madison...
UPDATE:
Infidelity website Ashley Madison's hackers say 'nobody was watching': reporthttp://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/21/us-ashleymadison-cybersecurity...
Hackers who stole a trove of sensitive data from AshleyMadison.com said "nobody was watching" as they scoured the infidelity website and vowed to release more emails from its executives, online technology website Motherboard reported on Friday.
The tech website said it was given a contact email address for the hackers, who call themselves the Impact Team, by an intermediary. The hackers replied with a message signed with the same signature and fingerprint, known as a PGP key, posted with the Ashley Madison data releases this week, Motherboard said.
"We were in Avid Life Media a long time to understand and get everything," the website quoted the hackers as saying. "Nobody was watching. No security."
David Kennedy, founder and security consultant at TrustedSec, said that the latest download, which was released with the warning "Time's Up!", appears to be authentic.
"We have explained the fraud, deceit and stupidity of ALM [Ashley Madison's parent company Avid Life Media] and their members. Now everyone gets to see their data," the hackers said in a statement.
Impact Team had threatened to publish names and nude photos and sexual fantasies of customers unless Ashley Madison and Established Men, another site owned by Avid Life Media were taken down.
Representatives of Avid Life Media could not immediately be reached for comment.
Yeah. They're about to be placed just below Kim Jong-un ("Little NorKim") in Global Brand Value Ranking
The world is a jungle. I have no friends. Only those that fear me or ignore me. Government is my enemy. Trust is the opiate they peddle. Janet steals my savings. Barack steals my freedom. The media steals my preconceptions.
I live in this jungle. Because I doubt, I survive. Nietzsche paraphrased: "everything the government or its creation, the Fed, says is a lie; everything either has, it has stolen." Trust is the opiate of sheeple. Reject and doubt is the antidote.
"By doubting we come to inquiry, by inquiry we discover truth." - Peter Abelard
Peter Abelard was one of the most prominent Aristotelian philosophers in 11th century France and a prime mover in restoring Aristotle's lost organon on Logic to the western world. About a century later as Aristotle's Logic firmly took hold over Plato's irrationalism, Aristotle's Metaphysics exploded on to the intellectual scene.
Aristotle's First Philosophy, Metaphysics, was what the Church's inquisition was all about. Proving that the universe was necessarily eternal and therefore axiomatic, not ex-nihilo, was viewed as heretical.
In the history of the world, no other book has ever done more to overturn the Church's authority. It befuddled Thomas Aquinas into assiduously earnest conundrums.
...Then, the Renaissance happened. Yayyyyy!
The endless error is that any dogma is valid. How can we know truth, except if we trust some dogma? What authority ought be trusted? Trust is an opiate. Is truth determined by a drugged mind valid? Certainty is for fools.
I have studied Nietzsche and also Aristotle. Whereas, N may say that "there are no facts, only interpretations." Å may say, "O Really, is that a fact?"
Please browse some Aristotle too:
"For a principle which every one must have who understands anything that is, is not a hypothesis; and that which every one must know who knows anything, he must already have when he comes to a special study. Evidently then such a principle is the most certain of all; which principle this is, let us proceed to say. It is, that the same attribute cannot at the same time belong and not belong to the same subject and in the same respect; we must presuppose, to guard against dialectical objections, any further qualifications which might be added. This, then, is the most certain of all principles, since it answers to the definition given above. For it is impossible for any one to believe the same thing to be and not to be, as some think Heraclitus says. For what a man says, he does not necessarily believe; and if it is impossible that contrary attributes should belong at the same time to the same subject (the usual qualifications must be presupposed in this premiss too), and if an opinion which contradicts another is contrary to it, obviously it is impossible for the same man at the same time to believe the same thing to be and not to be; for if a man were mistaken on this point he would have contrary opinions at the same time. It is for this reason that all who are carrying out a demonstration reduce it to this as an ultimate belief; for this is naturally the starting-point even for all the other axioms."
Aristotle; First Philosophy(Metaphysics), IV,3.
What axiom do you claim valid? I claim none, without proof. Belief is an emotion, not a validation. Aristotle wanted a conclusion. I want endless doubt.
It is nice to want things.
What is it that you are referring to by the terms "axiom," "claim," "valid," "proof," "belief,'' "conclusion," "I," and "doubt?"
Please refer back to the quote above.
The facts of your words are contradicted by your "wants."
It is similar to the themes of this blog genre, that "wanters" want to contradict counterfeit and identify it as money instead. Same principle, different context.
What is valid intellectual discourse but to demand definition so as to argue? What is money, by your definition? What money is valid? Where have I contradicted money as counterfeit?
From another approach, then.
Heraclitus would say a person cannot step into the same river twice.
Cratylus pushes this absurdity to its end and doubts a person can ever step into a river once.
I say a person can step into the same river several times.
By denying that there are no axioms one falls into the camp of Heraclitus or Cratylus, and Nietzsche.
I deny no axioms, but accept no axioms without proof. Nietzsche uses doubt to deny all axioms. I demand proof.
It is nice to demand things.
Have you met any proof yet?
Later, man.
Keep on sowing. One day you may reap!
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Yeah, brah. Where have you been for, I dunno, nearly the last one hundred years?
http://i.imgur.com/vv8a8YP.png
I wish Marla would post us something?
I dearly hope that Woman is doing well. She was such an artist with her presentation.
Wait...Marla?
Kinda weird huh that Trumps first wife was named Marla..
Wow.
a blast from the past, from marla
An Open Letter To The Financial Mediahttp://www.zerohedge.com/article/open-letter-financial-media
+1000 An instant classic!
This girl looks just like her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgaHy7DYs3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDp9YYV2Kcw
That was amazing, thanks for the share. I think this guy might still be here though.... not going to name any names... "the baseless ramblings of the Tourette's-afflicted homeless guy who loiters about outside our offices"
"Imagine that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) was a corporation, with its shares owned by the nation's major pharmaceutical companies'
No, the corporations don't own shares of FDA,,, They just own the people who run that and every other agency.
One can only guess that the pockets of the members of the Federal Reserve are lined by big banks.
End the Fed. Yes. But don't forget the I.R.S.
Or the army, marines, and host of other unneededs.
It is not a mistake that the Federal Reserve and the IRS were both born in 1913! Two heads of the same beast!
Yes they are financial perverts and have an incurable disease that infects the nation and destroys the planet. They need to be stopped before we are all doomed. Corporations are and have taken over aspects of the FDA and they certainly have influence over the price of oil. As a species it is our responsiblitiy to, militarily (the US Military) if necessary, put things into order by not allowing such entities to exist in their current structure.
Unless of course you are the one about to go extint, then it's war right?
Unless you work for them.
FDA....ok....pharm commerical....do not take it you spit blood, heart palpitaitons, hives, develop kidney stones, get catarcts, double vision , etc...other than that...Take it..its ok...
This SHOULD BE required reading and taught in every civics class, in every public school. Colleges SHOULD OFFER this as a prerequisite course for freshmen...but, it isn't.
Ever wonder why?
Because there are Public schools?
https://youtu.be/Xbp6umQT58A
A few quibbles by Rand and Mark need to be corrected. Otherwise it is pretty impressive that a politician can almost figure this stuff out.
“By the simple act of buying, for example, $10 million worth of bonds, the Federal Reserve literally creates $10 million worth of money and adds it into the system.”
If the government deficit spends by issuing a new TBill (which is really a bond), then FED keyboard money eventually finds that Bill and monetizes it. In that case the money supply grows.
If the FED makes keyboard money and it buys an existing TBill, then the money supply DOES NOT GROW. It is a liquidity swap. The bill is a type of near money, and also a debt instrument. Some call it an asset as it earns interest. Said bill is near money because it can attract money at almost any time (it is made good by government) and it can be traded as if it was money.
Money is more liquid than a bond or bill, money is pay to the bearer upon demand. A debt instrument is pay to the bearer at some point in future.
QE is buying EXISTING BONDS, such as MBS and TBILLS. Therefore it is a liquidity swap, a swap of things that are not quite equal. If QE was actually adding trillions of dollars to the money supply, then there would be roaring inflation. The producing part of the economy is in DEFLATION. There is still a balance sheet recession, where private debts were driven high during the housing bubble years of both Clinton and Bush. QE has supported high “debt as asset prices” by buying debt instruments. Yes, the FED is not our friend, QE keyboard money channels straight into the finance casino. It buys debt instruments and typically financial entities hold these debts. When you go to a bank to become hypothecated, who holds the debts? Yes, the banker. When the government goes to the markets to sell a Tbill, who often holds the debts; Ding Ding you win a prize – it is usually a bank or finance entity, sometimes other Central Banks.
“everyone knows the Fed stands in the wings, willing to "print" new legal tender and sop up Uncle Sam's IOUs (which eventually come due, as we are now seeing in Greece).”
Greek debt is held by mostly by German, French, and British commercial banks. Greece money supply is Euros and this money type is outside of Greek law. The situation with the FED and the United States is entirely different. Congress can reign in the FED anytime it can summon the political will.
The FED also rebates about 90% of its interest to the Treasury. Does anybody think that Greek sovereign bonds have their interest rebated? Actually, Greek bonds are being rolled over and that makes the interest go exponential. Greek citizens must pay with austerity.
Yes, the U.S. government is not really restrained. The bankers always wanted to have politicians in their pocket. It is easy for a banker to sidle up to a politician and offer new “loans.” The “deal” and the devils catch, is to make private bank credit good for paying taxes.
If Rand knows the constitution like he says he does, then he knows the money power rightly resides with Treasury, not with private for profit corporations. So, it is much more than just the FED, it is the nature of money, and that nature should not be privately issued credit.
The money supply should be intermediated Treasury money. Somehow, we have become habituated and brainwashed to think that money should be private credit. At one point in U.S. history, the money supply was 40 percent Treasury Greenbacks, and this money type was so popular there was a “Greenbacker” party that wanted to make it a permanent inheritance to the people of the U.S. Of course, this money type was fought against successfully by that era’s bankers.
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/tocs/a1_8_1.html
“When it comes to money, politicians are often seen as the least trustworthy.”
During the Greenback era, Congress never issued more Greenbacks than were allowed by law. So, Congress – do your damn job and follow the constitution. Money’s true nature is law, and it is NOT private bank credit.
Private Banks are not really restrained…if they can make some usury they will, it is their business model. The only restraining force is capital position, and the FED always makes that good. If a victim walks into the door of a bank to be hypothecated, and new victim is credit worthy, then a new loan will be made every time. Banks are not reserve constrained.
Very well done MEFO.
The FedRes are thieves. Grifting thieves. The plunderers of, and funders of tyranny against the American country and people.
Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity.
rule #1 maggots win
that is all bitchez
Nah.
Rule 1 is to control the language.
When what is false is believed as true, then....
As a kid, my friends and I found a dead bird crawling with maggots.
We sprayed lighter fluid on it, and then lit it on fire.
Maggots lost.
Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity.
Joe Biden's political platform after Hillarys jail sentence.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RBhQf8RP6VY
How is feminazi working out for you Janet Yellen? Are you going to blame Bernanke? Have a long look Janet.
The Adventures of Photoguy - Episode 19 - YouTube
<<<< Under Pres. Rand Paul, the Fed acquiesces and the monetary system is reformed.
<<<< Under Pres. Rand Paul, not a goddamn thing changes and the oligarchs rule on.
Raul Paul eliminates Bassel III from his vocabulary during nomination debates. So do the rest of the assholes pimping for Presidential office position. This includes Democrats.
It is scheduled to become law January 1, 2017.
Hopefully Janet, your exchange doesn't show up with Orange Pantsuit. Give Lagarde a motor boat noise to the serfs. Winks.
Money in Greece was known by the name “nomisma.” It had this name because it gained its authority by law. Binding law or custom in Greek is “nomos.”
Aristotle: “All Goods must therefore be measured by some one thing…now this unit is in truth, demand, which holds all things together….but money has become by convention a sort of representative of demand; and this is why it has the name nomisma.. because it exists not by nature, BUT BY LAW (nomos). AND IT IS IN OUR POWER TO CHANGE IT AND MAKE IT USELESS.”
In ethics 1133, Aristotle goes on to equate money and goods.
“Now the same thing happens to money itself as to goods- it is not always worth the same; yet it tends to be steadier…money then acting as a measure makes goods commensurate and equates them. There must then be a unit and that is FIXED BY AGREEMENT.”
It matters not who says what but the matter is what is said.
To say that money arises naturally from productive work as the means to equalize the exchange of disproportionate value among voluntary traders and then to turn around and contradict this identification by saying that money is determined by law leaves the intellegent observer to discern which of the two components is true and which is false.
How intelligent are you?
...Choose wisely.
True enough,
MEFOBILLS.
However, the relevant deeper questions to ask are "What if there is not agreement?" The answer is that then there is a conflict. When people fight then the principles and methods of militarism manifest. The oldest book on the Art of War starts by saying "Success in War depends on Deceits," and ends by saying "Spies are the Most Important Soldiers."
Civilization was built by the history of warfare, which was the manifestation of the principles and methods of organized crime on larger and larger scales. After that becomes sufficiently large scale, then it was called war. Militarism is basically the ideology of the murder system. It always has unitary mechanisms, although it is inherent to its social success, based upon deceits and treacheries, that it promotes false fundamental dichotomies, and impossible ideals, in order to be able to bullshit better.
The Federal Reserve Board developed upon the basis that governments ENFORCE FRAUDS by privately controlled banks. By and large, those who assert that they are against that STILL tend to be stuck inside of the same frame of reference of fraudulence, although they tend to not want to understand that.
To further explain, see my comment under:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-20/welcome-feds-theater-absurd
Welcome To The Fed's Theater Of The Absurd
Of course, I have been repeating similar points in my Zero Hedge comments for the past few years, as well as for decades before that in other contexts.
MEFOBILLS, as you quoted above:
In ethics 1133, Aristotle
"There must then be a unit and that is FIXED BY AGREEMENT."
The ONLY connection between human laws and natural laws is the ability to back up lies with violence. Money is measurement backed by murder. That is the most abstract form of private property being claims backed by coercions. The reasons for that are due to what happens when PEOPLE DO NOT AGREE.
Zero Hedge is overflowing with the views of various reactionary revolutionaries promoting their versions of what "money" should be. Those always tend to deliberately ignore how and why what money IS has become governments ENFORCING FRAUDS by privately controlled banks.
Generally speaking, I agreed with the article above, and your two comments about that MEFOBILLS ... HOWEVER, my approach is to insist that what we need are series of intellectual scientific revolutions, the details of which I have been developing for several decades, and I have repeated outlines of those several dozen times on Zero Hedge during the last few years.
The Federal Reserve Board is integrated into globalized systems of electronic monkey money frauds, backed by threat of force from apes with atomic bombs. The Federal Reserve Board for more than a Century has been presiding over systems of symbolic robberies, through legalized frauds, enforced by governments, which have already robbed almost everything that was worth robbing.
Given those are FACTS, the superficial notions regarding "Ending the Fed" barely begin to scratch the surface of the deeper problems. Indeed, the vast majority of people continue to expect that, (despite progress in physical science enabling technologies to become trillions of times more powerful and capable than ever before in human history), our political science does not have to go through even more profound paradigm shifts, which integrate and surpass those already achieved in physical science. Rather, most people continue to promote their own favourite religions and ideologies, which tend to adamantly refuse to change in ways which would be consistent with progress in physical science.
So far, we are still living inside of social pyramid systems based upon being able to back up lies with violence, resulting in that becoming Wonderland Matrix Bizarro Worlds! The exponential progress in science and technology has, so far, only resulted in an oxymoronic scientific dictatorship, whereby the primarily applications of progress in science have been to get better at backing up lies with violence. Indeed, that is what the Federal Reserve Board has done. It is based upon integrated systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, which have harnessed technology to do that better and better than ever before. However, the results are that society as a whole has become more and more psychotic, because social success based on being able to back up lies with violence, or ENFORCE FRAUDS, still never stops those frauds from being false, or makes those lies become true.
Since the Federal Reserve Board is actually based upon the history of the successful application of the methods of organized crime to the political processes, the results have been that governments became the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangsters, the banksters. The deeper problems are that the few people who perceive those FACTS, then tend to still promote the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals, which tend to deliberately ignore what happens when PEOPLE DO NOT AGREE.
Money is NECESSARILY measurement backed by murder. The international banksters are who they are BECAUSE they were the best organized gangsters. Collectively, they are a group of trillionaire mass murderers. However, there are actually no realistic solutions to those real problems other than to develop better death control systems, to back up better debt control systems. Of course, that appears to be politically impossible at the present time, due to the long history of social success based upon backing up deceits with destruction, morphing to become financial success based upon ENFORCING FRAUDS.
The results of that long history are that there is almost nothing but a core of organized crime, surrounded by layers of controlled opposition groups, both of which are run the best available professional liars and immaculate hypocrites. Tragically, it currently appears politically impossible for enough people to perceive that, especially since almost everyone is socially successful to the proportional degrees to which they do not see that, or do not publicly admit that they see that.
MEFOBILLS, as you stated in your comment:
"Money’s true nature is law, and it is NOT private bank credit."
However, in my view, that is too superficial, due to the degree to which that idealized form of "money" as a human symbol does not include that human laws ONLY exist to the degree to which lies can be backed up by violence, due to the situations that develop when PEOPLE DO NOT AGREE. The history of civilization was that of warfare, developing the War Kings, that created the powers of sovereign states. Gradually those powers we more and more captured and effectively privatized by the Fraud Kings, the banksters. The Federal Reserve Board is the American National King of Fraud, which integrated into a globalized system in which the Bank of International Settlements is the King of Kings of Fraud.
The powers of sovereign states are primarily power to rob, which is called "taxation," and that is backed up by the power to kill, which is called "rule of law." Those are the powers which governments used to ENFORCE FRAUDS by privately controlled banks. Governments now do that because the international banksters were the best organized gangsters, that were able to apply the methods of organized crime to the political processes in order to accomplish those systems of legalized counterfeiting.
While the vast majority of people do not understand that, because they have been conditioned to not want to understand that, the few that do still tend to operate as controlled opposition groups, because they still tend to think and communicate through the biggest bullies' bullshit world views, as were built into the dominate natural languages and philosophy of science.
Anyone who continues to rely upon old-fashioned DUALITIES, as expressed through false fundamental dichotomies, and the related impossible ideals, is still controlled opposition, because promoting impossible ideals backfires badly, since that actually makes the opposite happen in the real world. Rather, what I recommend we should be doing is starting to used more UNITARY MECHANISMS, in order to deal more directly with the deeper reasons for how and why governments have become the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals.
Unfortunately, there is no good language available to express those kinds of intense paradoxes. But nevertheless, I have been attempting to develop ways to use the English language in order think about and communicate that, despite that English had develop to become the most dominate of the natural languages adapted to function through promoting the biggest bullies' bullshit world views.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN NATURAL LAWS AND HUMAN LAWS HAS DEVELOPED TO BECOME AS ABSURDLY BACKWARDS AS IT POSSIBLY COULD BECOME, DUE TO THE LONG HISTORY OF SOCIAL SUCCESSFULNESS BASED ON BACKING UP DECEITS WITH DESTRUCTION, MORPHING TO BECOME ENFORCING FRAUDS.
Natural selection pressures drove the development of human artificial selection systems primarily through the history of warfare, inside of which kind of human ecology developed the existing political economy. As that happened, there opened up wider and wider grand canyon chasms between progress in physical science, without any matching, much less surpassing, progress in political science. But nevertheless, in my view, nobody can propose genuine solutions to the ways that the Federal Reserve Board is based upon the USA government ENFORCING FRAUDS unless they go through series of intellectual scientific revolutions in the ways that they think about that. Without those, then whatever is communicated will be bogus "solutions" that are still based upon false fundamental dichotomies and the related impossible ideals, which will necessarily continue to backfire badly, and still actually cause the opposite to happen in the real world, because they will continue to understand their mechanisms in absurdly backward ways.
& Similarly so in every other social institution that one examines, such as the Profit From Junk Food, and Profit From Disease systems, etc., which all work within the same context, e.g., that the medical systems fit inside of the monetary systems, which fit inside of the military systems, etc. ...
The Federal Reserve Board exists because money is measurement backed by murder, and that institution was made and maintained by the biggest gangsters, the banksters, who now control the public powers of national states because they were those who were the best at applying the methods of organized crime to the political processes. Every other sociopolitical institution has been similarly corrupted, and so, driven to become crazier and crazier. However, I REPEAT, to be more realistic about those real problems requires that there be better death controls systems developed, in order to back up better debt control systems. There necessarily exist combined money/murder systems. Those are fraught with extremely intense paradoxes due to the long history of PEOPLE NOT AGREEING.
Hence, it can be better said that "money" is not so much the result of AGREEMENTS, but rather the result of DISAGREEMENTS being resolved through fighting, in which deceits and treacheries were what enabled those who tended to win those fights to become able to do so. Of course, after those have become globalized electronic frauds, backed by atomic bombs, those kinds of psychotic, runaway criminal insanities demand profound paradigm shifts, and series of intellectual scientific revolutions, in order to MAYBE survive that situation. Ideally, our political science should be inspired by the previous history of scientific revolutions. However, it appears that we are rapidly running out to time to be able to do that ???
Of course, at the present time, practically nobody is interested in doing that. Rather, there continues to be the core groups of organized crime, surrounded by layers of controlled opposition groups, both of which are dominated by the best available professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, who have little interest in changing the ways that they think, but rather are quite unfavourable in their attitudes towards doing that.
While the content on Zero Hedge is far superior to that in the more mainstream mass media, by and large there mostly continues to be superficially correct perspectives, such as yours MEFOBILLS, that do not engage in deeper analyses, and so, then do not promote genuine solutions which are consistent with that deeper analysis. Specifically, it is facile to state idealized versions of what "money" should be, based upon people agreeing, and those agreements being encoded into the laws. However, what really happened was due to people NOT agreeing, and those conflicts being resolved by fighting, wherein those who were the best at being dishonest and backing that up with violence prevailed. Therefore, money is necessarily measurement backed by murder, and there are no genuine solutions to those problems which could exist outside of that.
Change is a constant. The question is really what form of change would be best.
That said. I find your use of the term reactionary revolutionary not helpfull and dismissive. It does not apply to everything and every idea. Its insulting to me personaly.
Some of the ideas put up have merit. Kick those ideas around and we might find a real solution. Shutting out these ideas will get us nothing good.
Of course, change is the only constant, and it tends to be constantly worse overall.
The term "reactionary revolutionary" applies to anyone who continues to promote false fundamental dichotomies, and the related impossible ideals. While I usually agree with their goals, their mechanisms are BACKWARDS, and therefore, always backfire badly.
Too many people approve of the kind of transcendental poetry performances of the various "reactionary revolutionaries," because too many people want to continue to believe in the same old-fashioned impossible ideals. "Reactionary revolutionaries" are controlled opposition, which tend to not understand that they are controlled by the ways they think. Of course, to some degree I am too. However, I have been struggling more than more to overcome that.
One by one we will need to sort thru lots of less well thought out ideas before we find the real solutions. The trick will be in filtering out by reason the less well thought out ideas. Dismissing all of them without showing why is not very constructive. Given time real workable solutions can be found provided the actuall issues get noted.
Dacades of dogma need to be overcome. By working the problem all the way thru first. A good system could be built. Destroying the dogma should be done with well reasoned discourse.
So yea feel free to poke holes in all my ideas. Good luck.
I do not particularly poke holes in your ideas, VWAndy.
Rather, my approach is based upon profound paradigm shifts in the ways that we perceive politics. With paradigm shifts, there is NO good compromise half way through. Metaphorically speaking, that is like compromising between the view that the Earth is flat, versus the Earth is round, by agreeing it is a Big Cube.
Of course, the Earth is NOT perfectly round. It is an oblate spheroid. Similarly, the Earth does not go around the Sun in circles, but rather through an ellipse. Furthermore, both the Sun and Earth are moving as the galaxy spins, and the galaxy spins with other galaxies, etc., and so the view that the Sun goes around the Earth, rather than the Earth goes around the Sun, can be validly qualified and modified. However, there can be NO good compromise with the view that the Earth is flat, and the Sun goes around the Earth, which is what common sense used to tell people. (Although ancient scientists knew better thousands of years ago.)
I am generally promoting the view of Scientific Revolutions developed by Thomas Kuhn, to the issues of political economy. In that perspective, the paradigm shifts which are necessary cannot allow compromises with the old paradigms, although they can allow future qualifications of those paradigms. In my view, the essential problem with various reactionary revolutions, or the Black Sheeple, is that they still want to believe in bogus "solutions" based upon impossible ideals. When it comes to "money" they want to promote the impossible ideals of what money should be. That means they want to stay within the old paradigms.
However, my point in my comment above was that:
REAL MONEY WAS NOT BASED ON PEOPLE AGREEING, BUT RATHER BASED ON THE HISTORY OF WHAT HAPPENS AFTER PEOPLE DISAGREE VIOLENTLY. (People who live inside of the social systems built on the history of warfare tend to take for granted those systems. They can agree with each other, and cooperate through the use of money, BUT, that money itself was not due to agreements, but to the resolutions of disagreements through the means of backing up lies with violence.)
Reactionary revolutionaries continue to promote the impossible ideals regarding what money should be, despite that never was the case, and never could be the case, and most obviously is NOT the case now, since our public "money" supply is about 99% based on governments enforcing frauds by privately controlled banks.
As usual, I agreed with the gist of that article above CORRECTLY asserting that "the Fed is not your friend" (at least not unless you are one of the privileged few banksters, who can legally making the public "money" supply out of nothing, through counterfeiting that is legal when you do it, because the laws allow that.)
My main points are about the deeper reasons how and why the social FACTS are that there are enforced frauds, with governments being the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals. What I refuse to compromise on is the point of view that money could ever become so idealized that there would be nothing there but people AGREEING upon that money supply, with no DISAGREEMENTS left, that were being somewhat covertly resolved through violence.
Zero Hedge is full of people promoting the perspectives of what money should be, which are usually based upon people AGREEING. However, what actually exists is due to people NOT AGREEING, then fighting, which resulted in the principles and methods of organized crime, or militarism, determining who won those kinds of fights in the past, which then resulted in civilization actually operating according to those kinds of organized crimes becoming triumphantly dominate.
I have no use for reactionary revolutionaries that promote impossible ideals, that actually make the opposite happen in the real world. Promoting the ideals of what money should be is what the controlled opposition Black Sheeple do, which actually assists the banksters to continue to get away with being the best organized criminals, that are effectively controlling governments.
I have no use for those who think and communicate in ways that continue to take for granted the biggest bullies' bullshit world views. The original DUALITIES, as false fundamental dichotomies, and the related impossible ideals, were first promoted by the biggest bullies, in order to enable them to become better professional liars and immaculate hypocrites. In my view, everyone who promotes their favourite versions of what money should be tend to be reactionary revolutionaries, since the real result of doing that is to actually assist the various professional liars and immaculate hypocrites to continue to get away with their bullshit.
Furthermore, I am promoting my views within the perspective of an overall synthetic mode of thought, endeavouring to be engaged in a megasynthesis of post-modernizing science with ancient mysticism. Money is merely a special case of power and information, which therefore, can be driven to go through paradigm shifts in proportion to which the concepts regarding thermodynamics and information theory could be revolutionized.
Again, reactionary revolutionaries tend to take for granted their presumptions. They deliberately ignore the ways that metaphysics should be changed in order to remain consistent with progress in physics. (Of course, since progress in physics could continue through profound paradigm shifts in the future, our metaphysics could do that too.)
Reactionary revolutionaries tend to take for granted their favourite old-fashioned religions and ideologies. I do not want to associate with those kinds of people, although they make up the overwhelming vast majority of people who act as the controlled opposition against the banksters. As I said, I tend to agree with their superficial analysis of the problems, and I tend to agree with their idealized goals for change. However, I regard them are being profoundly wrong with respect to their understanding of the deeper mechanisms, and therefore, in my view what they do is promote impossible ideals that actually make the opposite happen in the real world.
Just because some people can spout great transcendental poetry using various magical words expressing impossible ideals, (while that is quite popular among some groups), their actions are mistakenly based, and they end up accomplishing nothing other than facilitating the biggest bullies to continue to get away with the same bullshit.
P.S.
http://www.theautomaticearth.com/2015/08/nicole-foss-the-boundaries-and-...
My magic word is accountability.
Backing up lies with violence is a sucky system. That is the shift you speak of?
"biomimesis" magic word-of-the-day. "Something taken from photosynthesis, but more efficient. This new process is even better than photosynthesis! Incredible." - Gordon Russell 21AUG15, kurzweilai.net ,
'Diamonds from the sky' approach to turn CO2 into valuable carbon nanofibers - Decreasing CO2 to pre-industrial-revolution levels is the goal
kurzweilai.net 19AUG15
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but what about the methane??? - see avatar, LMAO
I do not doubt that there are theoretically possible creative alternative technologies, what I doubt is that there would ever be enough political miracles to enable those kinds of technological miracles to be sanely integrated.
It would be interesting to try. Many ideas are worthy of at least trying.
CO2 is a problem in need of a 'solution'? (reverse gear VW!!!??? driver wanted LOL)
CO2? Well we could turn much more of it into other things like oxygen or fuel. Its a shame its been turned into a political thang.
Agreed. It boils down to politics, as you've outlined so well so many times (THANK YOU!). The root of all our politics is sexual politics and the artificial human 'solution' to that, aka warfare, AKA 'FAMILY VALUES', on any scale you choose. Why? Because taking from the environment aka robbing means surviving and REPRODUCING. The politics of sex will dominate until the bitter(?) insane(?) end. Hands up all those in favour of a zero-child policy... LOL(?)
"one way or another, sooner or later, we will have a zero-child policy." - MEAN BUSINESS
"If we adopted a zero-child policy TOMORROW we would still have enormous problems on our hands." - MEAN BUSINESS
P.S. I read Nicolle Fosse's comments on what she deemed fascist population policy. She is ergo a defender of the political status quo as I said above, AKA controlled opposition. Donate TODAY!!! LOL T.A.E. DVD $39.95! You of all people should have seen it coming. Ditto Suspicious Observers, and their funding 'disclosure' which wasn't REAL, just bullshit.
"Accountability" runs into the old problem stated in Plato's Republic:
"Who will guard the guardians?"
My answer is nobody, other than the back-up system of natural selection. Within the actually existing human systems of artificial selection, it was supposed to be that "We the People" would have the power to hold our representatives accountable. However, it is now more and more blatantly obvious that POLITICAL FUNDING has made those ideals become nothing more than a cruel joke. The Federal Reserve Board is the leading symbol of the ways that POLITICAL FUNDING became runaway vicious spirals of crazy corruption, which have gone too far to be able to be fixed by anything within those systems.
I agree with the ideals of "accountability." However, the realities seem to have gone so far that nothing other than the decline and fall of civilization can be the result. Any and all idealized theories about what we should do, including what money should be, are politically impossible to implement through the existing systems, due to the POLITICAL FUNDING based upon runaway, triumphantly ENFORCED FRAUDS.
I wish that I could come up with some better constructive solutions, however, all such efforts are politically impossible, given the already established systems of POLITICAL FUNDING. I have spent much of the last few decades working on those problems, and I continue to do that now through Canadian Electoral District Associations ...
The only thing I have done is PROVE, over and over again, that governments routinely get away with being arrogantly dishonest, while the vast majority of people act like incompetent political idiots. It is way more tragic when one looks beyond the economic problems, at the ecological problems!
The Federal Reserve Board has been the single most important institution in the globalized systems that were making "money" out of nothing, in order to "pay" to strip-mine the planet's natural resources. The whole of civilization has been following its path of least resistance, or path of least morality, due to being controlled by the applications of the methods of organized crime, to end up that civilization has been behaving in worse and worse ways, that are increasingly manifestations of criminal insanities.
While I wish that there was some better "accountability" that could work, so that human beings did not live inside of runaway criminally insane systems, there are no politically possible ways to prevent the utter absence of "accountability" of current and previous generations deferring the debts and deaths onto future generations.
It now looks like the ONLY "accountability" will be the decline and fall of civilization, due to operating through fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting systems, which were NOT "accountable" in any ways other than as the result of organized crime dominating political processes, in order to achieve systems where governments enforced frauds by privately controlled banks, that enabled the strip-mining of the planet's natural resources to proceed at an exponential rate, and thus, go into extreme overshoot, and then collapse catastrophically into chaos.
We are only just beginning to observe the realities of the diminishing returns starting to significantly manifest. Since the planet is big, compared to people, it will continue to take a while for the consequences of using "money" made out of nothing to "pay" for strip-mining the planet to become more obvious, (especially to those older and richer people, who are living more towards the center and top of those social pyramid systems.) Of course, people should have been more accountable previously, regarding themselves doing that. However, they were always acting through fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting systems, which enabled them to NOT be accountable.
I sympathize with the theoretical importance of the concept of "accountability." However, the only ways that is going to work appear to be through the decline and fall of civilization, which will kick into higher and higher gears as the results of having already strip-mined the plant's natural resources manifest in more obvious ways, that get harder and harder for people to continue to deliberately ignore.
Theoretically, we should have better accountability. In practice, we have covert systems of lies backed by violence, becoming legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, or enforced frauds, inside of which the Federal Reserve Board is the single most important institution.
Of course, that is "a sucky system!" It sucks far worse than we can fully comprehend at the present time, since for generation after generation we have been living inside of a society which had a fresh planet to rape and plunder, and could continue to strip-mine the planet at an exponential rate, while taking that for granted.
The theoretical shifts that I speak about are developing better death controls, which require thinking in radically different ways about that. Everyone has some power to rob, and to kill to back up that power to rob. Governments assembled and channeled those powers, while the banksters were the best at effectively using those powers, in order to achieve the effectively privatization of those powers, so that governments enforce frauds by privately controlled banks. Everyone should be more accountable for the murder systems that back up the monetary systems. However, that has become politically impossible, due to the degree that the core of the best organized crime gangs, the banksters, are surrounded by controlled opposition groups, the reactionary revolutionaries.
There is more than one way to skin that cat. It is what it is.
A taste of their own cooking might be just the ticket. There can be no monopoly of force. Its a fiction.
Yes, VWAndy, there is
no monopoly on force.
Moreover, the harshness and indifference of nature can be infinitely greater than the cruelty and stupidity of people. Natural megadisasters, or "divine violence," are possible, in ways which are orders of magnitude greater than anything human beings can do. I believe that the deeper problems are that the ruling classes only control civilization by controlling other people. The ruling classes, by definition, do not control anything that is beyond human control. A lot of what civilization is doing is driving things that will go beyond human control, and therefore, beyond the control of those who are able to dominate civilization through backing up lies with violence.
The bigger background problem caused by entities like the Federal Reserve Board getting away with enforcing frauds is that civilization becomes more and more psychotically out of touch with the relatively objective real world. Making "money" out of nothing to "pay" for things actually "pays" for nothing, except to the degree that other people are tricked and/or coerced to participate in that kind of criminally insane system.
I repeat, the irreconcilable social polarization will eventually be trumped by the irreparable destruction of the natural world, both of which were enabled to develop by fundamentally fraudulent accounting systems. The Federal Reserve Board is practically accountable to nobody but those privately controlled banks that own it. The Federal Reserve Board is the result of the POLITICAL FUNDING paying for that system of legalized treason.
Destroying the legitimacy of the rule of law feeds a monster that will destroy those that fed it. However, at the same time, civilization as a whole has become a monster, destroying the ability of the planet to continue to provide habitat for human beings, which is only just barely beginning to manifest, compared to what could be reasonably expected to happen in the future, unless there were some series of technological miracles, integrated with political miracles, to resolve the problems of diminishing natural resources in any other ways that decline and fall of civilization.
People who accept living inside of monetary and taxation systems that ENFORCE FRAUDS are accepting living in side of systems that deliberately ignore and misunderstand in the most absurdly backwards ways the basic laws of nature. Civilization based upon organized crime was the result of natural selection pressures, but nevertheless, that has resulted in civilization based on runaway criminal insanities. The ONLY way that makes any "sense" is if one was sure that "divine violence," in the form of some natural megadisasters, was going to destroy civilization anyway, and thus, there was no good reasons to care about the future, nor future generations of human beings.
However, if there were not any natural megadisasters, then the paths that human being are on are to create their own megadisasters for themselves, for future generations, who will finally have to really pay for the consequences of everything that was previously done through "paying" for that with "money" made out of nothing, by entities such as the Federal Reserve Board.
It was one hell of a contradiction that humanity got itself into, due to short-term increments of social success being based upon backing up lies with violence, or enforcing frauds. Every time that becomes more successful, it also becomes more insane. However, those who are making that kind of "money" inside of those systems based upon enforced frauds continue to be rewarded for doing so, and therefore, even more able to continue to dominate POLITICAL FUNDING. The owners of the Federal Reserve have been making fantastic profits in every possible way for more than a Century, while the economy of the USA was thereby being destroyed. There is nothing which can correct the overall environmental insanities within fundamentally fraudulent accounting systems, because the POLITICAL FUNDING operates inside of the established systems of ENFORCING FRAUDS.
Mostly, the corrections for that will happen to poor young people in the future, not to the old rich people who originally enjoyed the benefits from creating "money" out of nothing to be able to "pay" for strip-mining the planet, which was presented as being "good things" to do. I doubt that most of the richer old people will suffer the consequences of what they have really done. Rather, it will primarily be younger poor people in the future that will suffer the consequences.
We may all be those young folks that are going to be picking up that tab. Not future young. Us living now.
We the living must choose. It as fallen to us. So Its also our call on how this change happens. Lies or something else?
After reading that post a few times one thing seems clear. dont take this wrong. Might you be trapped in this box of your own making?
Pop psychology:
making reality?
I am certainly trapped in the box!
However, I do not believe I made it.
My friend we all built our own boxes.
Yes, but then there are several billion boxes, which are way bigger than any one individual box. The point of the social organizations in pyramid systems are that there are people who specialize in being dishonest and violent. The armed forces and police are trained and equipped and paid, as well as promised pensions, if they continue to keep other people inside of the boxes. The prisons are the most obvious examples of the physical boxes that back up the mental boxes.
The "money" made out of nothing by privately controlled banks would be worth nothing if the government did not force people to pay taxes using that form of "money." Thus, the government forces people to live inside of those little boxes made of ticky-tack fiat "money" made out of nothing as debts. The boxes that the banksters made and maintain became debt slavery systems that contain all taxpayers, and everyone else who must use that form of legal tender in order to live. The vicious spirals of those boxes within boxes are now runaways!
Oh we had lots of help and instuctions. Tools and resources too.
If anyone is even remotely interested, there are YouTube videos of Bernie Sanders GRILLING THE SHIT out of Greenspan and Bernanke. Completely kicking their asses and exposing both as having a 100% lack of realization and concern about the typical American. The smug look on Greenspan's face when Sanders was trying to get through to him about the impact on the middle class of their failed policies was astounding. He obviously DID NOT CARE AND IT HADN'T EVEN ENTERED HIS REALM OF CONSCIOUSNESS RELATIVE TO WHAT HE FELT WAS IMPORTANT. (I believe Sanders was a member of the House back then).
As a Senator, it was Bernie Sanders who repeatedly demanded that Bernanke identify who received the (actually $2.6 trillion or more) money that Rand Paul refers to. He told Bernanke over and over that the taxpayers have the right to know. The slime Bernanke claimed it was on record when it was not. Sanders caught him on that BS and again asked for the identities. At which point Bernanke said it was "best for the country" or some such shit that we don't know.
He did the same with Janet Yellen.
IMO, it is Bernie Sanders who is the biggest anti-Fed elected official - and the FED is my #1 issue in voting. Sanders is NOT a johnny-come-lately, cobweb-cunt lying bitch about the FED and the 1%. So it's either him or whatever the Repubs end up offering.
It's voting that go us where we are today.
Please... no more voting! I've had enough already!
The schoolastic’s lead by Thomas Aquinas totally missed that bank credit acts as a doppleganger for money. Over several centuries, there is no mention by Schoolastics that deposit creation acts as money.
The schoolastics concentrated more on economy that on monetary reasoning; which leads directly to some of their confusion.
Schoolastics correctly understood there was a difference between Capital goods and money. They incorrectly thought that money was exempt from supply and demand.
They were fairly advanced on usury; they were ok with interest when lender was taking risk and gain was uncertain. Usury was taking unfair advantage, and that could be seen in the definition of two types of loans: 1) Societas, where lender assumed some of the risk of the enterprise. 2) Census, which was based on fruitful property. The lender would be paid in goods/produce, and later that morphed into money. However, the lender had all the risk; if the property did not produce that year, the lender did not get paid.
The old testament has strong prohibitions against usury, yet modern man engages in it as if it is his “right.” How often have we heard, make your money grow! Money is sterile, it cannot grow.
Jews were strictly forbidden by old testament from taking usury from their brothers. Later, that law was perverted and Jews were permitted to take usury from Goyim. Usury then became weaponized and is now part of today’s private money system.
A simple mistake by the Schoolastics, not understanding credit, and then the overturning of usury prohibitions; and these prohibitions are considered murderous sin…capital crimes.
Our Jewish friends also made loans to the Church to then undermine it, hence Luther being so pissed off about Indulgences. These indulgences were a form of tax to then pay the Jewish credit banker.
You might enjoy this book.
I consider it meta-fact-fiction
http://www.amazon.ca/Our-Occulted-History-Jim-Marrs/dp/0062130323
Let's examine whether the FED is a Tool, a Mechanism, a Group of Shareholders/Stakeholders/Investor, or the Biggest Benefactors of the US Central Banks System.
- My guess is that Private TBTF Banks create much more money than the US Federal Reserve... Hypothication, Rehypthication, Prime Dealer Status, Access to TAF, Access to other FED Programs, Bailouts, TARP, TAF, QE, ZIRP/LIRP/NIRP, Bail-Ins, no regulation in many cases, Self Regulation is some cases, Unlimited Derivatives Power without monitoring in many cases,... and even Federal Contracts for things like EBT Cards
Who Benefits the most??
- The TBTF Banks
Who gets the Meme of Responsibly for the US Economy & Jobs?
- Federal Reserve who has limited tools and no Legislative Responsibility
Is the FED a Tool of TBTF?
- Hell Yes Asshole
To say the federal reserve is your friend is like saying the wild predatory animal eating you alive is your friend. Amazing what nonsense mainstream folks believe.
Like having a pet tapeworm.
Will someone please straighten my dumb ass out: I always thought the treasury was the only institution that could print,make, control our "money" I guess I'm asking how did the Fed get the power and the okay to print money. Who needs the FED anyway, for what ? They have decreased our buying power by 97% since it's inception, great job, good work, but for whom ? ABOLISH THE FED ! At the very least demand an audit, by an independent auditor. Is there anyway to add "Audit the FED" on the ballots of the upcoming elections ?
A little Socratic Questioning for your perusal and thoughts. I even threw in a few movie recommendations for the weekend:
Let's also imagine that this fractional reserve scheme of global banking was going to be the result of huge losses of wealth, mass homelessness, joblessness, disease, death and war, among other things. Why wouldn't we globally already have been looking to replace this before this happens? Again?
History Repeating
Will we ever learn? Will allow our weaponized technological progress since 1929, the first time when we didn't learn, take us out completely and permanently this time around?
Movie: On the Beach - 1959
Admission of Guilt
Should the admittance of guilt quoted below by the head of the organization that caused the first global depression over 85 years have been forewarning enough when he said it over 12 years ago? When should we have started an alternative, 85 years ago, 12 years ago, 7 years ago, now? What percentage of children learn not to touch a stove again when they burn themselves the first time? Are adults really smarter than children?
"Let me end my talk by abusing slightly my status as an official representative of the Federal Reserve. I would like to say to Milton and Anna: Regarding the Great Depression. You're right, we did it. We're very sorry. But thanks to you, we won't do it again." - Ben S. Bernanke November 8, 2002
Then the crash warning 5 years after that quote. And now 7 years after that and we still have the same core system that was further rigged. Are we really expecting a different outcome? Why are we still expecting a different outcome?
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". - Albert Einstein
You Are Here
Now everyone is starting to push hard to jockey for local, national and regional financial position when everything fails. And is anyone planning or proposing a global solution to replace the current global financial system?
And on top of that now various entities are taking aggressive steps that could push this towards a violent point of no return. Is this part of a global solution that leads to anything other than destruction and chaos? Who really thinks they can benefit from this?
Next Steps
Can everyone step all the way back? Can everyone think through the global future on the current course? Can everyone come to a global common understanding that it won't end well for anyone? How about uniting to start working on a global alternative? Unless there's one under way that doesn't already have specific intents and self-interests that I don't know about. Will things like politics, special interests, self-interests, protectionism etc. doom that as well? Is there even any one group or individual on this whole planet that has the ability to be uninfluenced, unbiased and objective enough to create an alternate financial outcome that would be on everyone's side, include everyone and that everyone would accept?
Conclusion
Maybe War Games - 1983 is a better movie to recommend. Spoiler Alert: The fictional AI computer is smart enough to realize nobody can win and there can be a positive outcome for everyone. And I'm confident almost all, if not all, children learn not to get burned again. Now what are we going to do?
FUKU -- a brilliant summary of our current situation and the key questions. I am in complete agreement with you: SAME issues, expecting somehow a different result? There is no way out; and I absolutely do not see anyone suggesing a way out but war seems to be that smell that no one wants to talk about right now. WORLD WAR III, but this time it WILL Be different. I also submit that this time, with mass migrations, the misery will spill over to the USA in a very real way as compared to what happened the last time, WWII. That result was a post war Baby BOOM, the Wonder years of the 50's to the mid to late 70's (I was a young man then, from my 10th year to my 40th) and the result was amazing, really, in the context of the beginning of the END, which really begins with Clinton, 1999 (the BANKING SYSTEM RIG, that set the stages for our melt down - -GLOBALLY -- a wrecking ball situation); then, endless UN-declared WARS, with the MACHINE moving vast amounts of BLACK MONEY around. We Zero-hedgers know the game! Thanks for these comments. Please contact me personally if you can, as we can talk more off line.
The global stall. This game is all dependant on the theft of labor.
The Berlin wall was held up by regular people. The guards on both sides were actually holding it up. Then one night they stopped holding it up. By the next morning it was in bad shape. In one weeks time it was turned into trinkets.
We hold these walls up. And they will stay up as long as we hold them up.
The banksters are nice and safe behind these walls. From this place of safety they are untouchable. They are lying to everyone in order to keep them safe behind the walls. The thing is way to many regular people fall for the lies. Believing in the system of fraud.
So the path is clear to me. Destroy the dogma of the we know whats best crowd. Then we simply stop holding up these walls. This fiat thing is not going to be shot and killed. It must be abandoned like the tooth fairy.
Openly question everything and everyone. It is not enough for the few of us sharp enough to catch on. We need to rub some faces in it until they all are up to speed. Then we get the global stall. In a few days all of these walls can be torn down.
A new system is so badly needed. If you ask me? The better system would operate on truths not force. In this system force trumps reason and truth. As long as enough regular people believe in this forced system it will stand.
Thank you both for your comments and detailed thoughtful replies. The reply is a bit lenghty but you may find portions interesting. I would politely contradict one point from one of you and say there is a way out. But who is going to come together to stop the ones that have the preplanned outcome already lined up. Getting everyone on board with a new agreed upon global plan would be extremely hard. Transitioning could even be harder. You couldn't just pull the plug on fiat and expect anything but the current disasterous outcome. As I've pointed out in other posts there is jockeying and positioning locally, nationally, regionally and even globally. But still nobody is proposing an actual global solution that would include everyone. Because even the current plans for anything global are already being pushed by those that have their own self-interests in that solution. While, I like many others here, may have very valuable insights into a solution it wouldn't be wise for any of us to go into much detail at this point in time.
Cooperation
And in any actual global solution you may end up with the ones that feel they got the short end of the stick. So it is even more complex when we realize we need a whole new never before created solution, that not only includes everyone, but also ensure everyone agrees with it and most difficult everyone is happy with the outcome. I know most still have no clue what the current outcome will really be. And you'd also have to ensure there are safeguards so there is no ability for the usual types of tyrants to take it over or grab power or start to leverage their way into a takeover of the whole thing.
Why the Repeating Message?
So I don't offend either of the 2 major political parties in America I'll put 2 examples of a solution that has been preplanned forever. Plus an additional 2 with the same message, 1 that far preceded even Reagan so you'll know that plans are made far in advance. Coincidence that they are all the same? I have to say I respect Dr. Rosin for having the guts to go on her own to meet with the Russians just to get their thoughts on space based weapons and include them in her consideration of what she found out was happening. No doubt she was put on endless watch lists after that even back then before they supposedly existed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag44dRO8LEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRdIp0hYQ5c#t=2m22s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-wsBFSsCbI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP1H4olzFrU#t=7m55s
Man doesn't need Aliens used as a means of uniting everyone. We need enough of those in the current positions of authority, power and wealth to support those of us that can see far beyond the need for endless attempts at things like control, power and greed to create a global solution. And if they don't have the ability to create a vision because their interests bias them then they need to lookout elsewhere for that vision. If any of us were to attempt to try this on our own we would likely be silenced.
Truth Hurts
The truth, especially when you tell it to those in the highest levels of power and authority, is seen as many things. Maybe insolence, contempt or ignorance among other things. That's because they have their own interests to protect and even they answer to someone. I've repeatedly said it will take visionaries that can think outside this whole paradigm to create a global solution. And the last thing that man needs to unite everyone is an alleged Alien invasion. That just continues to mask the inherant problems of man and doesn't enable us to address and fix the root cause of our problems. Because if Aliens did show up they would most likely be either hostile or friendly and not disinterested. Either way they're likely more advanced than us. If they're hostile they may unite Earth temporarily and if we won or they leave we'll go right back to doing to the same old garbage we've always done without a permanent fix. And if they're friendly the ones in power that want to retain their positions will work with them to do the same old things like keep their power, wealth and control. And so we see the endlessly continued game of "truth's protective layers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUx1SURbb3g
Ghandi & Aliens
Roderick Toombs made a great point in that link above prior to his passing away recently. Interestingly, he also mentioned Aliens to unite the world. But even more interesting said it would take someone like Ghandi to unite everyone. And even if the planet was lucky enough to find someone like that again there would be those that would likely attempt to stop them permanently just like they did with Ghandi. Which is one reason I've posted before that the idea is more important than the man/female. Many people look for a savior. Not realizing a savior is the right idea carried out to the best ends for everyone not just the right person. Even the most brilliant well-intnentioned person's ideas can be misinterpreted or hijacked and used for bad results. So we're right back to getting enough support to ensure the idea and subsequent plan are not only carried out but remain in tact. Is man so pathetic we have to rely on outside help from Aliens to save us or unite us? No. But coming to the right realization and affecting the needed change to save ourselves is going to be quite difficult and dangerous. If there ever are acknowledged Aliens then if they supported our own efforts at solving our problems without interfering or undermining our efforts we'd be foolish not to accept their sincere offers of support with our current predicament. But since they would undoubtedly be advanced and may have their own agenda how would we keep them honest when we can't even keep ourselves honest? Maybe we would need a Ghandi from both sides. Difficulty ahead no matter which way we go. Regardless, in the end unless the needed changes happen everyone will lose.
To Tell the Truth
No doubt I'll anger someone that may read this comment. That's a common reaction when I tell the truth. I've held back a LOT of very detailed truth. Not only in this post but in many of my recent ones. There may be some that read my comments that still don't either realize it or fully appreciate it. Since we've globally collectively been playing games for so long I fully understand that if we unravel truth's seemingly endless protective layers too quickly we'll end up with the same thing as if we unravel the fiat financial system too quickly. And that all just plays into the hands of those that have already been planning to take advantage of this upcoming planned crash and subsequent fallout for the limited benefit of a few. So I've withheld a significant amount of truth so as not to allow that to be used to play into that planned crash and eventual outcome.
Self-Improvement
Frankly, I don't know how anyone has the time to play the ridiculous endless games of truth's protective layers. There is barely enough time in the day to just live life and finding time to improve ourselves. Maybe that's the underlying root cause of our problems. So much time, energy and money is wasted on trying to monitor, manipulate and control everything in truth's layers and the outcomes instead of applying that energy to self-improvement and the improvement of others. This seems to apply to all levels of our global society. And is also one reason why I have said several times that the potential for gain is possibly far greater for those that fear they have the most to lose.
Yep the truth is a brutal thing. I still find it more comforting than all the lies.
It is better to slowly walk up on the truth than to run into it full steam. And yes we best not just blurt it out. Just show folks where and how to look for and find their own truths.
PS great post.
duplicate
I don’t think my reasoning is facile, and both Schoolastics and Aristotle were some of history’s greatest thinkers. They cannot be easily dismissed.
Consider: Floating legal money once released in the money supply can transact forever. It becomes a utility that is used by “agreement.” There is no force other than people wanting to trade with each other. History also backs up this contention, so it is not just me saying it, or pulling it out of my imagination.
Whenever there is disagreement, then the law comes into play. Necessarily there is law and force when there is disagreement. However, if original contract is specified and agreed upon by both parties in advance (by law), then abrogation of that law leads to penalties already agreed upon.
Let’s reduce it to a non- money economy example, a small tribe of 50 or 60, as existed in our evolutionary history. These people remember who owes who what, so they don’t have money, they have credits and debts with each other, and they remember who owes who what, and who is a deadbeat.
I, and my tough brothers decide to corner the fishing grounds. We don’t let anybody enter the fishing grounds, and soon the tribe starts to get hungry.
I then easily pull a fish from my fishing grounds, and then I trade it for your daughter. She is pretty sweet and I want her, and I get her for a fish. This is unequal trading, and it is usury, yet there is no money involved.
In reality what would happen, is the tribe would organize and a policeman of sorts would invoke tribal law. I and my tough brothers would probably have our heads bashed in.
Evolution has led to certain behaviors that are conducive to tribal survival; psychopaths and sociopaths were usually ostracized from the tribe and sent away.
The invention of money disturbed this credit/debt system, where people did favors for each other.
Hidden within the money system was prices that could be manipulated, or money supply could be manipulated. What was easily discerned fraud in a non money economy, could not be discerned in a money economy. Psychopaths and Sociopaths are not easily discerned in a money economy, and are allowed to function, often posing as outstanding citizens (Lloyd Blankfein, George Soros, etc.)
True enough, man has not learned how to remove fraud from his money system. That does not change the hard fact that money is law. When two people transact, implied is that there is fair dealing. That transaction can even be codified and sanctioned, say in a legally binding treaty. The obligation is discharged when money changes hands.
Hungary had a civilization that ran for a 1000 years, and was not based on fraud. The talley stick system in England was so efficient, that a working man could feed a family of four on about two months wages a year. There were advanced money systems in Europe in the upper middle ages, where they would recall coins once a year, and then re-issue them, thus forcing metal money into circulation so they behaved as a proper transaction medium. Venice, in the beginning, examined contracts to make sure they were not usurious. Venice used a public bank, but and its bank intermediated ledger money.
In the same way that my tough brothers got our heads bashed in for taking rents on the population, what happens in the monetary sphere is perfectly analogous. We humans are a function of our evolutionary history, and legal fair dealing is necessary for higher civilization. Controlled Monetary Fraud is not an advanced civilization; control fraud backed by force is a perverted civilization, one run by the tough criminal brothers.
I submit to you that by having a money supply in the hands of privateers, who can easily pervert the law, leads directly to a perverted control fraud civilization. There is no question that we live in a control fraud credit money universe now, but to rid ourselves of control fraud, we need legal money.
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Looking at the bigger picture things get even worse.
The heads of all the major Central Banks are directors of BIS (Bank of International Settlements).
This is the home of the banking cartel that runs the world.
The BIS directors:
Mark Carney, London
Agustín Carstens, Mexico City
Jon Cunliffe, London
Andreas Dombret, Frankfurt am Main
Mario Draghi, Frankfurt am Main
William C Dudley, New York
Stefan Ingves, Stockholm
Thomas Jordan, Zurich
Klaas Knot, Amsterdam
Haruhiko Kuroda, Tokyo
Anne Le Lorier, Paris
Fabio Panetta, Rome
Stephen S Poloz, Ottawa
Raghuram Rajan, Mumbai
Jan Smets, Brussels
Alexandre A Tombini, Brasília
Ignazio Visco, Rome
Jens Weidmann, Frankfurt am Main
Janet L Yellen, Washington
Zhou Xiaochuan, Beijing
Perhaps we should stop repeating this nonsense about QE benefitting nations or groups of nations such as the Euro-zone.
Who are the US primary dealers the QE money from the FED goes through?
Bank of Nova Scotia, New York Agency; BMO Capital Markets Corp.; BNP Paribas Securities Corp.; Barclays Capital Inc.; Cantor Fitzgerald & Co.; Citigroup Global Markets Inc.; Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC; Daiwa Capital Markets America Inc.; Deutsche Bank Securities Inc.; Goldman, Sachs & Co.; HSBC Securities (USA) Inc.; Jefferies LLC; J.P. Morgan Securities LLC; Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith Incorporated ; Mizuho Securities USA Inc. ; Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC ; Nomura Securities International, Inc.; RBC Capital Markets, LLC ; RBS Securities Inc. ; SG Americas Securities, LLC ; TD Securities (USA) LLC; UBS Securities LLC.
Not just US banks but British, French, Swiss, Canadian, German, Japanese banks.
How do these banks help the US?
They don’t QE is just a bailout of the global banking system.
I am sure the ECB QE and Japanese QE money goes to pretty much the same group of global banks.
The Central Banks are not there to serve their nations; they serve the global banking system.
Central Banks are independent.
Independent of their nations best interests.
Here is a different angle.
And a debate which many would think a must watch.
http://rense.com/general96/ofstatement.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuXNMkBJbNg
I would say that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) IS a corporation, with its shares owned by the nation's major pharmaceutical companies and that the FED is a corporation that owns the US government.
The Communist Manifesto is not your friend.
Animal Farm.