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What Drought? Nestle Pays Only $524 To Extract 27,000,000 Gallons Of California Drinking Water
Submitted by Claire Bernish via TheAntiMedia.org,
Nestle has found itself more and more frequently in the glare of the California drought-shame spotlight than it would arguably care to be — though not frequently enough, apparently, for the megacorporation to have spontaneously sprouted a conscience.
Drought-shaming worked sufficiently enough for Starbucks to stop bottling water in the now-arid state entirely, uprooting its operations all the way to Pennsylvania. But Nestle simply shrugged off public outrage and then upped the ante by increasing its draw from natural springs — most notoriously in the San Bernardino National Forest — with an absurdly expired permit.
Because profit, of course. Or, perhaps more befittingly, theft. But you get the idea.
Nestle has somehow managed the most sweetheart of deals for its Arrowhead 100% Mountain Spring Water, which is ostensibly sourced from Arrowhead Springs — and which also happens to be located on public land in a national forest.
In 2013, the company drew 27 million gallons of water from 12 springs in Strawberry Canyon for the brand — apparently by employing rather impressive legerdemain — considering the permit to do so expired in 1988.
But, as Nestle will tell you, that really isn’t cause for concern since it swears it is a good steward of the land and, after all, that expired permit’s annual fee has been diligently and faithfully paid in full — all $524 of it.
And that isn’t the only water it collects. Another 51 million gallons of groundwater were drawn from the area by Nestle that same year.
There is another site the company drains for profit while California’s historic drought rages on: Deer Canyon. Last year, Nestle drew 76 million gallons from the springs in that location, which is a sizable increase over 2013’s 56 million-gallon draw — and under circumstances just as questionable as water collection at Arrowhead.
This extensive collection of water is undoubtedly having detrimental effects on the ecosystem and its numerous endangered and threatened species, though impact studies aren’t available because they were mysteriously stopped before ever getting underway.
In fact, the review process necessary to renew Nestle’s antiquated permit met a similarly enigmatic termination: once planning stages made apparent the hefty price tag and complicated steps said review would entail, the review was simply dropped. Completely. Without any new stipulations or stricter regulations added to the expired permit that Nestle was ostensibly following anyway — though, obviously, that remains an open question.
In 2014, Nestle used roughly 705 million gallons of water in its operations in California, according to natural resource manager Larry Lawrence. That’s 2,164 acre-feet of water — enough to “irrigate 700 acres of farmland” or “fill 1,068 Olympic-sized swimming pools,” as Ian James pointed out in The Desert Sun.
Though there is no way to verify exactly how much Nestle must spend to produce a single bottle of Arrowhead spring water, the astronomical profit is undeniable fact: the most popular size of a bottle of Arrowhead 100% Mountain Spring Water (1 liter) retails for 89¢ — putting the potential profit for Nestle in the tens of billions.
Activists have called for a boycott of Nestle Waters and all Nestle products until they are held accountable for their actions in California.
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This is the company whos CEO stated that humans do not have a right to water. Nice.
Well, not know that he's bought it all...
BTW, why doesn;t anyone talk about the BIGGEST user of water in SoCal?
Budweiser
A bunch of people at Nestle and state government should be hung..
or drowned.
Or have their bank accounts checked for unusual deposits, plus a lifestyle audit. I'll bet more than a few have been bribed.
Of coourse, nobody complains about the BIGGEST water user in SoCal:
Budweiser
http://www.myfoxla.com/story/29448161/drought-watch-hey-bud-this-waters-for-you
Just a drop in the bucket.
Nestle is obviously in the bottled water business on the whole planet with this kind of model. Did Jeb Bush also give them a license in Florida for a million $ "consulting" job?
"Nestle Pays Only $524"
Like that is the whole story???
What about the pig-fucking, pedophile trannies in the Cal Legislature, and the Sacrmento Water District that are now all driving Spykers and pissing payola down a rat hole?
Nestle owns virtually every single brand of bottled water, so you don't have to be in Cali to join in on the fun.
Budweiser is Belgian beer. I have plenty of local, American options that taste better.
I'd suggest Czeching your references if you think Budweiser is a Belgian beer.
Sorry to throw in a little logic here, but it's not like the Nestle water is being wasted. After all, it's being sold to people to drink. If they didn't drink this water, then they would find some other source. I agree about the expired permit and the price for it, but this article seems like a hit piece.
How about the state taps the water and consumers avoid the mark up. Or farmers tap the water and food is less expensive? Or Nestle pays for the real value of the water?
Point is that if CA has water to give away to Nestle, it obviously doesn't have a drought.
Or could it be there's a little mismanagement and corruption involved, courtesy of the staggering profits involved?
Ropes and lamposts.
It's easy folks, don't purchase Bud, Nestle, Kraft, etc. etc. etc., products. Then we must prosecute for crimes like this.
Why buy any corporate-GMO-food? Local organic food costs more, but the extra money is an effective political statement and might just save this country.
All very sickening...capitalism and cronyism at their extremes.
I'm pretty sure they invested a few thousand to bribe their governor and that money when straight back to the people!
Governor => Hookers & coke dealers => Police bribes => dognut shops => pays for minimum wage of the baboon behind the counter.
It's all trickle down economics if you look at it and that's how America works!
The only need virtual people have for water is running their CPU/GPU liquid cooling systems...
Water cooled grow lights too....
Welcome to the Hotel California. Sacramento is Bought and Paid for by Big Business. The Pols talk all day about fairness, diversity and equability, stewardship of resources, etc., and in the end, the average citizen (like the Knuks) gets fucked over and taxes raised for poorer service while Big Business prospers at my expense.
They're talking about a wealth tax as well as an additional 12 cents a gallon gas tax. The first to make amends to the poor and the second for roads.
Know what CA does with the fucking money? Even though they claim it will be segregated for the purpose intended, it winds up in the general state fund and is spent on BullShit projects that do no good (except make people fell like something is being done or building a larger bureaucracy to implement said social plans wherein the real money making its way to the targeted recipient is pennies ion the dollar) or just plain building a larger bureaucracy.
This is business theft of public resources with the blessing of the government, complicit togetherness wrapped in the raped profits of the citizen.
codification of the neo-fuedalism we live under -
one set of laws for We the People - aka the "muppits"
and another (non) set of laws for the corporate scum
The Khazars are using the goyim until they're used up.
Did you know that the world uses:
People in this state keep electing the same assholes, sp what do you expect. Term limits didn't do shit to get the career politicians out of here. Eight years in the Assembly, eight years in the State Senate, then on to the Board of Equalization or some other bullshit board with one meeting a year and $100K in salary.
We are getting exactly what we deserve Knuks. I look at sfgate.com (the online arm of the San Francisco Chronicle) every morning. I see people actively defending the rights of illegal aliens to be in this country. They denigrate people who have the audacity to even imply that maybe, just maybe, the borders should be a teeny, tiny bit more secure. They're labeled haters, wingnuts, and various other things. All for even suggesting that a sovereign nation should have more secure borders.
And you know what? These assholes will be the first ones to defend a 12 cents a gallon increase in the gas tax. They'll do it because some politician with a D after his or her name proposed it. They're the ultimate party sheep. They're the ones that don't give a damn if a D has machine gunned 500 babies on national television. I would lay you odds that if Leland Yee ran again, they'd elect him in a landslide, simply because he has a D after his name. (For those of you who may have forgotten, Leland Yee is a former State Senator, former Assemblyman, former member of SF Board of Supervisors and former member of the SF School Board who was arrested for allegedly running guns, after he had been champion of gun control legislation.)
I'm not a D or an R. I just can't stand the sanctimonius D's that inhabit this state.
Knucks and BAG, you must remember when the 4th bore of the Caldecot tunnel "bond" passed?
1972. I waited with baited breath as I was just about to get my license and be able to drive through it.
I was built and fininsh all in 2014.
There were a total of 5 bond measures that Reagan, Moon Beam, Pete Wison, Davis and the Worminator all "mingled" into the general budget.
It is not a matter of "voting"...its a matter of no guillotines. They aren't gonna stop knowing that the penalty is a few bleats.....like here..on this blog....
Absolutely, guys! It's a criminal shit show disguised as a loving inclusive gover-bent of, by and for the people.
The levels of crap like the Board of Equalization are mind-boggling. In the county in which I live and have a large number of golf bud county (senior) employees, I hear all the stories and in the last result even the most Progressive indirectly admits such. They're the beneficiaries of such. Not the plebes. But it's all done in the name of "for the children".
We're ruled by asshole, ripping us off every day in every way a little bit more and more.
Budweiser don't cause cancer, nestle does fuck face loser.
" Budweiser don't cause cancer"
And you know this how?
I'm older than you silly.
" Budweiser don't cause cancer"
Actually it does, due to sugar, yeast and carbohydrates.
As well, all wheat causes "leaky gut syndrome", commonly identified by a "beer belly".
I switched to wine exclusively and lost 60 pounds...."happily".
Though, on occasion, I do love me some Guiness draught...just one or two...barrels!
Budweiser: the leading cause of mud butt in the country. Got toilet paper?
California is turning into a giant shit hole.
California has already turned into a giant shit hole.
Do they still sell that grog?
Sure. Too "brew" all that Bud those huge fucking horses have to drink a lot of water.
Don't rock that boat, shark. Bud is sacred.
Just love capitalism.
Humans only possess that which they can keep, and secure for themselves. No right to water, life, speech, or shit. Most certainly, rights are not secured at the hands of government.
boycott them.
And the point is?
Future article title: under public pressure Nestle ceases operations, lays off 10,000. Impact to state tax base is catastrophic.
Until the political clas and the oligarchs swing in the streets nothing will change.
What a click bait article.
"The point is"...businesses should NOT be allowed to shift the true cost of thier business onto the backs of taxpayers.
The fake economic growth we have today is simply the externalization of costs: http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-externality-trap-or-h...
I think the citizens of Cali ought to have a "free draw" at Nestle's money tree...
What's the prevailing exchange rate between water and blood?
"705 million gallons of water in its operations in California, according to natural resource manager Larry Lawrence. That’s 2,164 acre-feet "
It creases me up that the US dogmatically adheres to a set of measurement units whose origins date back to the dark ages. I have never heard of "acre-feet". Is that real or made up? Whilst I would never advocate change for change sake, the SI system is increadibly easy to understand in comparison. Why do you continue to torture yourself like this? Its almost masochistic.
Ah, the good old reliable down arrow. Must have touched a raw nerve. Unless that is "acre-feet" is actually a well known unit for the measurement of volume. Would the down arrower care to explain?
I remember working in the US about 15 years ago in an engineering office of a large contractor. An american colleague came into the office one morning all excited. He had just purchased a brand new, bright yellow calculator with many more funcitons than his old one. The one function which particularly delighted him was the ability to work out the area of a room in ft2 by entering the room dimensions in feet and inches. Prior to this the inches had to be converted to fractions of a foot before the calculation could be carried out. This new calculator did that step for you. He was very obviously dismayed at the fact that I didn't share his enthusiasm. I showed him the equivalent calculation in metres with the use of a calculator that I bought in high school. I tried to explain that his calculator had been designed to overcome a non-problem which he had himself created by adhering to feet and inches when the rest of the enlightened world had moved on to SI units. Needless to say, he was not impressed.
Never been to England, but I know a Stone is 14 lbs.
Stick with your SI units...and stay where they use them.
I have seen the term acre-feet used for reservior storage numerous times.
Actually, I'll admit I was being slightly tongue-in-cheek disingenuous. The scientific community in the US do indeed use the SI system. Its the rest of the country who are stuck using the units inherited from good old imperial England. Maybe we should go back to using these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_units
An acre-foot foot volume of water is the amount necessary to submerge one acre to a depth of one foot. One acre is 43,460 square feet, so one acre foot would be 43,460 cubic feet. One cubic foot equals 7.48 gallons, so one acre foot would equal 325,829 gallons. the quoted math is correct, 2,164 acre feet of water equals 705 million gallons.
Duhhhhhh
Math is hard.
How much is that in Deciliters....duhhhhhhhh......
You might have just broken Rex's brain!!!
"Math is hard."
Maybe. But multiplication is arithmetic, not maths.
"How much is that in Deciliters....duhhhhhhhh......"
2.7m m3 = 2.7b litres = 27.0b decilitres. Not sure about the conversion of ...duhhhhhhhh...
"You might have just broken Rex's brain!!!"
You assume too much.
Oh sorry, please don't misunderstand me. I wasn't questioning the maths. I had assumed that was correct without even checking. My comment was directed at the tortuous route to get from area and depth to volume, a point which your eloquent reply illustrates beautifully. For the avoidance of doubt the SI analysis would go something like as follows: area = 4047m2 Depth = 0.305m Volume = 4047 x 0.305 = 1234m3. So total volume is 2164 x 1234 = 2.7m m3. The units of volume are the cubed power of the units of distance. No conversions necessary.
Agree on SI units, that mars lander that crashed because one set of engineers was working in SI, the other in archaic, might have been a wake up call.
But I like the visual of an "acre-foot". A foot high, covering an acre...that's a lot of water. More intuitive than a squillion heptalitres.
I think acre feet is widely used in computing the volume of water in reservoirs behind dams. It may have to do with the elevation lines in the reservoir maps being given in feet, which is to say as the water level drops significantly the surface area of the lake also decreases, so you need to calculate the volume in given "layers" of the lake (think of an inverted wedding cake). At full "pool" you would add up all the layers of the lake, at a very low stage you would only add the ones remaining. Flow rates out of the dams or free stream flow rates have historically been given in cubic feet per second.
Actually acre feet is the standard unit of measurement for professionals worldwide (who live in the REAL WORLD, as opposed to an ivory tower or impotent scale laboratory) once one moves beyond m3
How else could we know if we ever saw God's green acre-foot?
"acre-feet"
I'm pretty sure it is a little less that a "green-acre foot"...
This is much more a story about the Feds and their incompetence than Nestle. Not much different for grazing permits on public lands in the west, about $1.50 per aum (animal unit month= a cow or cow and calf for a month). You couldn't feed a hamster for a month for that much. These extractive permits (if environmentally allowable) should be publicly auctioned.
Decon
Here, here!
You can't blame Nestle for wanting the best deal.
You can blame the scum-sucking sell-outs who man many goverment posts (including military), for selling our nation on the cheap.
Tip of the nefarious iceberg (DUMBs, Chemtrails, Biowarfare, and general gutting of the Constituion).
It is free, like Obama's and food stamps
This is somehow worse than the millions of gallons going to waste to water golf courses for the wealthy to play on? All over California are large golf courses, with fees that typically keep out all but the rich, except at a few municipal courses.
California needs a lot more pain to force them to end their wasteful ways, and it is coming. Silicon Valley and its property mega-bubble will implode soon. Golf courses will turn brown and die off. Swimming pools emptied. Long lines at the stores for some of that expensive bottled water. Monthly water rations. Yes, it will be something to see...how many illegals are living there now? Sanctuary cities? They will all get what they deserve real soon. Unfortunately, it will spread a lot further than just California.
Most CA golf courses have already been converted to recycled or grey water.
If you doubt me, try drinking out of a sprinkler head or lick your hands after fondling your wet balls.
You'll get a tummy ache and maybe evn da poops!
Why you say would this have happened? Because the cost of water is too high! Many courses have even converted some 20 to 30% of what used to be grass to dirt/bunkers/natural lcoal vegiotation. Saves water, enhances the visuals and makes for a bitmore challenging game.
If you want to beggar state wide waste, focus instead on urban uses. Like LA's godzillion swimming pools, extravagantly lush watered lawns (private and public) for a start.
Some Cities around LA are also building their grey water systems as they make street upgrades. New construction also needs the hookups. I think this is all tied back to LA County trying to go as much grey on all larger new construction. Eventually the lawns, toilets, and whatever else you don't ingest will not be potable. This doesn't seem feesible for older houses, but who knows it may become mandatory in the future.
So all I need to start a water bottling company is a photoshopped permit, some lawyers, and I am good to go? Security would be easy enough to find in Cali. Hey you guys want to stop selling drugs and make some real money?
Drive up the central valley and look at the primative open channel irrigation systems still in use. Some lined, some not, a fantastic waste of water.
"If you want to beggar state wide waste, focus instead on urban uses."
Did you know that the world uses:
How about "big-Ag" and it's archaic method of mass production factory farming that is still using the 1960 blueprint for the "green revolution"? Lost?
Intensive farming techniques (soil conditioning to a 3ft depth) produces 3 times the crop from the same square foot and uses one third the water.
It worked for the Inca and Maya. And, yes, they didn't wear "Cat" hats.
But Warren looks cute eating a Fudgie. I bet he has a furry belly and purrs.
As long as they measure and report the levels of Cyanide from China and Cesium from Fuckushima.
The annual fee should be $1048, applied retroactively. That'll satisfy the sheep.
ha ha!
You're right! That would satisfy their sense of justice!
They wouldn't be able to remember the original article to even get the endorphin hit.
And the business press will swallow the line "didn't make our numbers because the fees doubled" hook, line and sinker.
How can this be defended against in an anarcho-capitalist fashion? Doesn't any strategy for preventing this depend on an idea of public ownership of resources, which in turn implies administrators with the authority to apply legal violence in order to enforce their decisions?
Oh boy! You've stepped in it now. Public ownership of resources. Now you're just spouting commie nonsense.
Be prepared for down votes. The locals don't take kindly to such thinking.
Hey!
This guy's pointing out glaring inconsistencies with our community group-think!
GET HIM!!!!!!
"
Hey!
This guy's pointing out glaring inconsistencies with our community group-think!
GET HIM!!!!!!"
Yeah!
Hang him!
He is obviously an antisemitic woman beating child molestor!
Ownership is defined, as it always has been, by the ability to hold and defend it. The fact that you hire a government to act as your gunman to defend that ownership, means that you should not be surprised when a higher bidder steps in and they turn the gun on YOU. There are no public rights beyond what YOU can enforce, and it should be well proven after centuries of experience that you will NEVER be able to reliably hire someone to do that for you, especially in the form of an ever larger and more powerful entity. Absolute power absolutely defies justice for anyone but those who hold it.
"We the people" hold very little power, so be careful of the tyrant you enable.
many humans are vulturious vampires that can only take once someone creates so they focus on the grab and defend part
That's what governments would like your to believe and in a way it's fact these days.
Land 'owner' ? Don't pay property or school taxes! Want a water well? Get a permit. Want a bigger garage, an extra room? Get a permit. Want to exercise your 2nd amendment rights? Get a permit. Want to drive a car? Get a license. Need medicine? Get a prescription. Want to set up a lemonade stand? Get a permit.
Land of the Free.
When you think it's socialism, it's really corporatism.
EVERYTHING done in America - I repeat, EVERYTHING - is done for the benefit of corporations.
EVERYTHING.
No - for power and profit
And what would happen with this water if Nestle didn't capture it for CONSUMPTION? Would this water get washed out to sea just like the TRILLIONS of gallons of mountain runoff and rainwater California refuses to capture for the benefit of it's residents?
Nestle has created a business that provides JOBS and prosperity. Not every business is evil.
Place the blame for the California drought with A) rabid environmentalism and politicians for not building retention basins while diverting runoff and rain water into the Pacific Ocean and B) 10M illegals that are stretching our systems to their very limits. If it wasn't for the 10M+ illegals in California, there would be plenty of water for California residents.
The "Blame America "contingent has chimed in.
Corporations good. People bad. But wait - aren't corporations people too? Such a conundrum.
Is there anything liberals stand for that's pro America/Americans? ANYTHING?
Well, we harvest organs from living black and mexican semi-aborted fetuses for the benefit of the corporations and the rich....surely that's pro-Mercan?
Just one other factoid for those infected by rabid environmentalism...the amount of fresh water on this planet isn't a fixed or finite resource. It's constantly being replentished by the process of evaporation, condensation and precipiation.
http://easyscienceforkids.com/all-about-rain/
The "Blame America "contingent has chimed in.
Corporations good. People bad. But wait - aren't corporations people too? Such a conundrum.
JWBS!
A good friend of mine lives in northern CA in the mountains and he told me that they drained one of the few remaining lakes in his area last week for "ecological" reasons...smelt, salmon, fart flies...whatever. Millions of gallons flushed like washing a turd out of the toilet to the ocean.
For progressives, people are far back in the priority to "the planet", or even the most miniscule insect. Unborn babies are simply lumps of flesh of lesser concern than tiny fish. For progressives WE are the problem and they will do what they can to make sure it stays that way. Breakdown order to incite chaos which in turns keeps everyone at each other's throats. Their ONLY concern is how to incentivize us to kill each other off without hurting little fish.
It it would be great if progressives would realize that their leadership couldn't give two shits less about fish. Just like the North during the Civil War, whatever bullshit story gets the job done.
"A good friend of mine lives in northern CA in the mountains and he told me that they"
Yes, please tell us more of your third party disinformation!
It goes along with your politics, so why discount it?
"
And what would happen with this water if Nestle didn't capture it for CONSUMPTION? Would this water get washed out to sea just like the TRILLIONS of gallons"
It would feed the non voting/non tax paying/non investor animals who thrive in such enviornmenta.
You know, nature?
That thing you take for granted?
Always surprised there aren't more social media campaigns against these large firms.
They don't give a shit about individuals (only their money) but you can bet they're petrified against the mob.
Think about it, social media has real people power.
But...but...Kim Kardashian's rabbit!
This reeks of corporatism aka fascism.
The water waste is bad enough but the waste in energy to produce the crappy plastic bottle is worse. We are killing ourselves!
Plus the water in plastic bottles tastes like shit.
Plenty of estrogen, but. Just what out male children need. And the girls get tits at 8 years of age, and die of breast cancer at 40, everyone's happy.
I guess there are no good attorneys in California with either the smarts or the nuts to try to terminate whatever sort of rights Nestle is claiming - be it by permit, license or contract. For instance, who signed these things on behalf of the State of California? Why is California still bound by those signatures? It is black letter law that courts will void unconscionable contracts, and permits and licenses my be revoked.
"I guess there are no good attorneys in California "
Nor on planet earth.
In a truly free market, it wouldn't be government blessings (permits) - it would be consumers/customers who would regulate this kind of exploitation... not through legislative efforts, but by voting with their wallets.
Just as we see here, once the facts are known, people will automatically shift their purchasing away from Nestle - effectively discouraging them from continuing the abuse.
The problem with the current system is that people consider it to be "OK" so long as they have permission from our overseers - and are thus more likely to dismiss claims of abuse from watchdog groups.
Big corporation raping the public trust, aided and abetted by the "public trust" in the government myth, and all y'all acting surprised and shit. There's an orange river in Colorado flowing full of public trust right now.
Stay thirsty, my friends.
Tom Selleck should sue for a better deal on the water he stole!
Throw the head of Nestle water products into jail and then see how fast Nestle completes the new application process!
Typical reaction - boycott Nestlé products blah blah blah. Want an anti gun law passed in Ca? No problem the State is there to nelp. Need Nestle to stop taking drinking water in a drought - yur California legislators are nowhere to be found (probably out cashing those Nestlé checks).
Hold the state responsible. They allowed this to happen.
Progressive eco-murderers will stop at nothing to use "the environment" as a front to push their neo-stalinist criminality. This article is a head-fake to divert attention away from the real causes of the water situation in commiefornia.
http://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/environmentalist-destroying-calif...
"Environmentalist Destroying California, Creating Drought by James Denison / April 14, 2015 7:52 AM PDTWhy am I not surprised? Seems the biggest users and wasters of water are the environmentalist, using fully half of all water in California on their projects, but at the same time excluding their water use from statistics so they can blame farmers who use ONLY 40% of the water. The farmers at least provide food and economic commerce which is better than the environmentalist who add almost NOTHING to the economy, while cheating on water use."
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/416918/no-farmers-dont-use-80-perc...
"The statistic is manufactured by environmentalists to distract from the incredible damage their policies have caused. "Just like the progressive eco-murderers at the EPA destroying rivers and mandating moar people die crushed to death in small cars, the Commifornia progressive eco-murderers are yet another example of the progressive stupid, it burns.
Grimaldus
Nestle is the closest thing to Satan himself EVER. I think they make hitler look good. Lead in Food products, Baby formula giveaways that caused babies to die of hunger just for starters(that was stupid parents fault though).
The media will blame anyone except the 10,000,000 invaders for CA H2O woes.
These invaders consume an easy 100,000,000 gals. every day.
US corperatisme at its best.
Nah, it's the evil Swiss...Nestle is akin to the evils of the BIS in Basel, Switzerland.
Nestlé S.A. is a Swiss multinational food and beverage company headquartered in Vevey, Switzerland.
Most major US corporations and banks have long been controlled by old european money (Rothschild, Bruce, Cavendish, De Medici, Hanover, Hapsburg, Krupp, Plantagenet, Sinclair, Warburg, Windsor).
you're not even close.
Just look at the richest men in the world list published by Forbes.
Huge majority of US nationals.
You think the richest families publicize their wealth?
Forbes list is BS. Forbes is a private company. That means it can only access publically available information to compile their list.
Think private trusts, gold vaults, and swiss bank accounts.
Start by reading Carroll Quigley and Eustace Mullins...
google nestle and brazil to discover MOAR of their euthanistic practices :-)
one could also harken back to the baby formula scandals which should have been more accurately called crinmes against humanity.
nestle and monsanto..two great tastes which go great together
Nestle is to water what Exxon is to oil, Monsanto is to OGM, JPM/GS are to financials, Merck/Pfizer are to pharma, Google is to algoland, Apple to sexytech, Facebook to media orgy, Boeing/Lockheed to MIC, Philip Morris to Tobacco etc.etc.
They have the world and Congress by the nuts; not Deez Nuts as its lampoonist; but the real nuts of billions.
It'll require a revolution of popular mindset to change this world order of "our way of life non-negotiable".
TThis is complete bullshit. If anything, this water should be diverted to farmers.
Up here in Canukita these pricks are pulling the same con. Differences is we're going to be getting paid less than half - $2.25 CAD for each million liters (by comparison the California deal works out to $4.85 USD/million L). And this coming from the assholes who say water should be theirs to buy on the cheap so that they get the privileged of extorting the masses.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/nestl%C3%A9-b-c-water-dea...
http://themindunleashed.org/2014/05/nestle-ceo-water-human-right-privati...
We're having our own drought concerns here too (time restricted usage, rationing) but these fucks can come and pull whatever they want because 'jobs'.
Can environmental extremist groups issue bonds to fund activities - that would be real free-market capitalism.
The "Journalist" here does not seem like a reliable source.
The info may be largely correct, but I sure wouldn't take her word for it.
Yes,,, if it's not from government,,, it's not reliable..... as many amerikans think today.
Apparently there's only the government, and this chick - http://theantimedia.org/team/claire/ .
Yup, those are the only two options.
Here in central Virginia we recently paid $46.40 for 1,600 cu/ft of water (we are billed evey other month) That is 11,968 gallons. Doing the math, if Nestle paid at the same rate their 705 million gallons would come to $2,733,289.
I don't buy any Nestle products. My little bit of "fuck you, nestle". Their packaged, factory food is SHIT. Look at their website for the products you should avoid.
Corporations used to be very sensitive about their reputation and public opinion. They we're afraid of boycotts and brand switching.
Not today,,, one corporation owns most of the brands and boycotts are so 20th century. Amerikans allow government to fondle them and their cute children while smiling at airports. Nestles steals water, at&t steals personal information,,,neither have nothing to fear,,, Most Amerikans won't do without their bottled water, digital HD TV and imported Ithingies. If there are a few who do stop using the product, governments will pick up the difference. GM anyone?
Corporatism, AKA Fascism...... enjoy.
The biggest tragedy is to learn that lots of people buy bottled water in this country that is rebottled tap water.
POS greedy douche bag
Not only are they gouging, pushing for privatization of water everywhere and profiteering off of polution but the quality of their products is also suspect. Actually the quality of many bottled waters are suspect. Reverse osmosis is really the only way to go at this point and you have to add minerals and electrolytes or become even more deficient than you certainly already are.
http://www.rt.com/news/312409-india-nestle-lawsuit-noodles/
If you tax something you get less of it.
Georgist taxation is predicated on taxing away the free lunch. Usually a free lunch means that somebody else is paying.
In the case of land, which is a gift of god, and that gift includes water, air, soil, minerals in the soil, electromagnetic spectrum...all of these things are part of the commons. Nestle didn't create the water, they only extract it, bottle it, and distribute.
California, by making it cheap to extract from the commons, allows Nestle to make rental gains.
When it reality, the water is becoming valuable for other purposes, and should have its site value taxed.
This is proper economics, where the real costs are recovered and then returned to the commons. From what came from the commons should return to the commons, rather than vector to oligarchy.
San Franscisco is another example of California and their retarded tax/money policies. San Fran allows absentee landowners and also allows land to be pushed in speculative bubbles.
One reason Texas didn't get slammed by the housing bubble is because they tax their land and don't have income taxes.
Having income taxes and not taxing the land/commons has well known effects as laid out by the Georgist economists. Georgists are not wrong, and elements of humanity continue to try and game the system for their rent taking plutocratic advantage.
If Nestle had to pay the fair site value for the water, they would soon find it more economic to pull up roots, and move to a water-rich state.
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
Water is commercially transacted in acre-feet. 27 million gallons is 83 acre feet. That would be an irrelavent number in California's commercial water usage problems. Also $6.30 per acre foot was a very fair price back when California had water.
California does not have a residential water problem.
Desalination on a commercial scale is about $2000 per acre-foot. That comes out to about $35 per month per average California residential consumer.
California residential consumers tend to pay between $20 and $80 per month already..
California residential consumers are crowded around the coast and the bays.
There is no residential water problem here
Agriculture is used to paying $3 to $200 per acre-foot. If their costs went up to $2000 per acre foot there would be a problem. Also, they have to figure out how to get the water from the coast to the inland valleys.
"There is no residential water problem here"
What bullshit.
Where do you ignorant, brainiac evil lying fucks come from?
Who moved the rock?
i heard that they dump water ever night...AND IN THE MIDDLE OF A DROUGHT!
Here's a brain dead comment typical of some ZH readers:
"what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul"
People like this shoudn't be allowed to vote. Notice no positive contribution but only tearing down.
Here is an example of rent value taken, and then the shifted onto labor. Maybe this example will help as it is more obvious and simple:
Exxon extracts oil from Saudi Arabia at its extraction cost. On the way to the Gulf Coast Refineries the money value of the oil vectors to Panama. Exxon's ship is panamanian registered and hence does not have to pay income taxes.
The input prices to the Gulf refinery are jacked up so the refinery can take small profits, and those small profits are then taxed "smaller."
In the meantime, the real profits are taken on a ledger in Panama, which has no income taxes. Exxon has then untaxed itself, and labor in the U.S. must be taxed higher to compensate.
This is rent seeking, and taking from the commons. Exxon, like Nestle does not really produce, they extract and then distribute.
That many ZH readers are hypnotized and laboring under false "wetware" doesn't diminsh the truth of things. Most American's have been fed propaganda from birth, and it is a hard thing to shake off brain washing.
Labor has to be untaxed so it can produce. Rents, or the Free Lunch that corporations and some try to take, should be taxed. Oh yes, massah, please tax my labor value so I can produce less. Please untax corporations so they can take from the commons, even though the commons belong to everybody.
Even our credit money system takes rents for its right to exist, hence the banker's outright theft of what should belong to the commons.
My comments are not necessarily aimed at the dumb asses who don't have enough mental horsepower to understand, but there are others in the ZH crowd who do understand.
If even one person gets it, that is something.
http://www.theautomaticearth.com/tag/neoclassical/
GeoLib: In 1879 Henry George published Progress and Poverty. The book was an international sensation, at the time outsold only by the Bible. It remains economics’ No. 1 best seller.
Mason Gaffney: “George came out of a raw, naive new colony, California, as a scrappy marginal journalist. Yet his ideas exploded through the sophisticated metropolitan world as though into a vacuum. His book sales were in the millions. Seven short years after publishing Progress and Poverty in remote California he nearly took over as Mayor of New York City, the financial and intellectual capital of the nation.
In a democratic setting, playing a Georgist card can be a powerful move. Neither Right nor Left can criticise a Georgist position because Georgist reform gives them both what they want. George, as Mason Gaffney writes “had a way of taking two problems and composing them into one solution. He took two polar philosophies, collectivism and individualism, and synthesized a plan to combine the better features, and discard the worse features, of each.”
“Thus, George would cut the Gordian knot of modern dilemma-bound economics by raising demand, raising supply, raising incentives, improving equity, freeing up the market, supporting government, fostering capital formation, and paying public debts, all in one simple stroke. It’s quite a stroke, enough to leave one breathless.“ “George’s proposal lets us lower taxes on labour without raising taxes on capital. Indeed, it lets us lower taxes on both labour and capital at once, and without lowering public revenues.“ “Ultimately, Georgist policy saves the cost of civil disturbances and insurrections, and/or the cost of putting them down.”
" Notice no positive contribution but only tearing down.........
My comments are not necessarily aimed at the dumb asses who don't have enough mental horsepower"
Talk about nonsense.
You are in an open forum.
If you want people (in a fight club) to like your drivel, perhaps breithart or faux news would be a better place for you to post in?
Looks like you have "produced" some pro-taxation bullshit. Taxes are theft at the point of a gun.
Worship government much?
Grimaldus
So, how is financial capitalism working out?
Capital has been untaxed and labor has been taxed. Simultaneously it has seen growth in government and corporate rule.
Corporations then try to externalize their costs, say they pollute - this makes their costs lower, but other channels (not them) have to pay for it.
How about mexinvasion. That is a plutocratic maneuver, where industry uses cheap labor to take wage arbitrage, and then externalizes the cost onto the middle class. The middle class pays through school taxes and higher medical costs.
In effect, the middle class is "taxed" higher through the price mechanism.
Finance capital is busy trying to take rents by extending monopoly forces. For example, the new trade pacts are supra national, and if any "economic" damages are had, the "foreign" corporations can sue a nation and its taxpayer.
So, rents come in many forms, especially in prices. Prices being jacked up is a form of tax and is also force.
So, some of you ZH readers get your panties all waded up when I mention the proper form of taxation. Proper taxes go after the FREE LUNCH.
If you like giving your labor value over to plutocrats via the price system, then go ahead and be slave. Don't ask me to join you in your mental prison.
This wonderful company does exacly the same in British Columbia. At least there is a 'little' more wate there (but not much more). A typical bunch of crooks. Boycott Nestle...
The plastic bottle and cap cost more than the water. We use to bottle water at about $0.05 a 1/2L.