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Why Has The Government Stopped Reporting Lake Mead Water Levels?
For months we have been warning that "Vegas is screwed" as water levels continue to plunge in its most crucial reservoirs. Non-government experts are waving red flags that something must be done (and even NASA scientists fear the worst) while the government remains quiet. And then just 3 months ago, Lake Mead water levels mysteriously plunged to levels that were perilously close to emergency for Vegas water supply, then quickly reverted after the government confirmed that a malfunctioning indicator was at fault.
Now, we note, having given them time to 'fix' whatever problem there may be, Lake Mead water levels have not been reported since July 9th - six weeks??!!
As Jim R notes rather eloquently,
In the spirit of data obfuscation a la China and Obama, Lake Mead’s daily reporting has not been posted for six (6!) weeks.
At last report (July 9) the lake was 0.6 inch above the critical 1075’ level that will initiate a new round of water wars in the Southwest, including a possible crimp in the IV drip that sustains Phoenix and Tucson.
As a reminder,
If the water level is below 1,075 feet elevation – 4 feet below today’s level – by January 1, 2016, it will trigger a federal water emergency... and water rationing.
Las Vegas Review Journal reported that forecasters expect the level to drop to 1073 feet by June, before Lake Powell would begin to release more water. Assuming “average or better snow accumulations in the mountains that feed the Colorado River – something that’s happened only three times in the past 15 years,” the water level on January 1 is expected to be barely above the federal shortage level.
So, We have one simple question - why did the government stop reporting Lake Mead Water Levels six weeks ago?
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There's no water to report on. Simple.
Why did McDonalds quit reporting profits?
They don't wan't you to know.
You have all the information you need. You don´t need any more information, Mr. Durden. Now drink your Victory Gin and be quiet.
Everybody relax, cool down, have a Nestle water. It's crisp, refreshing, and it's on Janet!
The water levels have been rising due to illegal alien urination
Dont worry. The EPA decided to open up a 500gpm flow out of a mine in the upper Colorado River water shed recently. They're doing their part
Environmental impact assessment, this isn't.
"Non-government experts are waving red flags that something must be done (and even NASA scientists fear the worst) while the government remains quiet."
Don't worry. They're sending the pope to Amerika in September to talk about this and global warming.
Bring in your Native Americans to do a rain dance.
better the natives than the pope...or the tribe!
Just finishing The Water Knife. Eerie.
water levels are at 1078...
http://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/hourly/levels.html
Google is your friend
.
Because they can't "Double seasonally adjust" an actual reading?
1078...forever.......
Another faux reason to keep climate change agenda alive. Won't be satisfied till they get their carbon tax.
The matter is not being reported for the same reason that "Global Warming" disappeared, morphing into the strategically-ambiguous "Climate Change": being wrong is embarrassing!
Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) will bring milder weather to this particular region for years to come. Conditions are reverting to what they were 100 years ago. It's no big deal unless you live in the area, in which case, move. The exodus from affected states is underway already. Where I live, wealthy American expats are scooping up big houses and islands.
Back in the 1970s, during similar drought, Mairkins approached Canada with a proposal to export Canadian water. Wisely, I think, Canadians said 'No.' Attempts may be made again to siphon the neighbor's supply, but better IMO would be to accept the return to natural desert conditions, and allow markets to adapt and bring farming into new locales. Most of our present economic imbalances were caused to some extent by defense of status quo. It's time to stop fighting change and start embracing it.
Water Export Wiki
This is no different than Lew not reporting US public debt
Fucking liars
There is an obvious exlanation on why Lake Mead is rsing again. Because Lake Powell is up 20 feet from April. Eventually some of that water gets released in to Lake Mead. Drought is news. Normal is not.
Makes sense except that no reporting for 6 weeks is very odd. Also, that 20 foot rise (if your info is true, which you don't provide a link for), was due to that short period of heavy rain in the region. Some of that was from the Mexican hurricanes the remnants of which traversed the southwest. Those are uncommon and might not happen again for several years. I'd be curious whether the alleged 20 foot rise has been maintained.
Would a picture help? Sounds like a great excuse to go drink a beer by the lake. Lake Powell is too far but I have plenty of lakes further upstream. It has been the wettest year I have seen in over a decade in Wyoming.To the tune of three times more rain this year than the last 10 years, which isn't saying much since we average ~5 inches a year. But the lakes are still full around here.
http://www.water-data.com/
Here's where Lake Mead water comes from.
The Department of the Interior's Water Reclamation Bribery Division was filling their Depends earlier this year because there was no way they were going to keep Lake Mead above 1075 no matter what they did with the upstream reservoirs. They previously (like last year) forecast June Lake Mead levels to be at 1075 and 8/100ths of a foot. They got lucky with the recent rains in Colorado and didn't' have to do anything drastic.
It's a lot more interesting to look at the one report that anyone dependent on that water cares about: the most recent Bureau of Reclamation forecast - it just came out on the 16th. And the most interesting thing on that forecast is that they are now forecasting levels below 1075 for four months next year (pg. 12) in May - Aug.
They don't like to take Lake Powell below 3600 ft., but they'll be sucking that thing down all the way through next June (pg. 11) to try to keep enough in Lake Mead so it doesn't go below the next action level of 1050.
These are all just forecasts of course, but the writing is on the wall. Barring an unusually snowy winter or prolonged freakishly-heavy rains in Utah, Wyoming and Colorado, they are screwed for next year. There's nothing left to steal from upstream reservoirs and demand isn't going away. If it's dry again next year, Mead is going below 1050.
Oh yeah, that heavy-metal diarrhea from the Colorado spill should be making it's way into Lake Mead this week, but that's only - what - three million gallons? Drink up, Las Vegas!
Go further upstream into Utah and Wyoming and the Lakes are hundred percent full. The water wars have begun and everybody is holding onto their water supply for dear life. Last time I went to the flaming Gorge the reservoir was 100% full during a normal year they normally drained 20 or 30% off by that time. It's called whether it changes every yearBe patient water usually flows downstream, is a personal effort I always flush twice so Texas will have enough water.
'Full' as compared to what? They're nowhere near their absolute capacity and they always peak in early summer.
Here's what the Bureau of REclamation says about the current status of Flaming Gorge
There's no emergency situation in the Upper Colorado Basin, but it's been pretty dry up there relative to past years. You may have seen it during the peak month or two. They would like to squirrel away as much water as possible up there to release into the Lower Colrado Basin reserviors next summer, but there's not much they can do if there's no 'extra' water to hold back. Does it really matter how much Flaming Gorge or any other Upper Basin reservior releases anyways? Too many straws downstream sucking at once - they'll never again have the water the entire system was designed to hold 'normally'.
Yep. I had reported The Colorado in Colorado was very high back in July. Takes time but the water eventually got there.
What a dumb fuck comment TS...
Anyways, shades of the FED stopping reporting M2/M3 back when...
Shhh....it's all good....
why did the government stop reporting Lake Mead Water Levels six weeks ago?
probably the same reason they do not report the actual national debt of which the one we know about is still frozen at $18,112,975,000,000
I'll have a clove in mine
Muppets stop supporting the markets if a natural disaster is in progress.
That could be soon.
No reports?
http://mead.uslakes.info/Level.asp
Looks about atable at about 1078 for several days now.
Being satbilized by spring melt water from Lake Powell?
http://lakepowell.water-data.com
Paranoid bullshit article disproven with one minute of lazy googling?
I reject your pseudo science...the article clearly shows the water is gone. It's the shmegma blood moon asteroid zetareticulian conspiracy.
That doesn't explain the sudden lack of reports since July 9. If it's 1078, why aren't THEY reporting that??
Perhaps you should ask water-data.com why THEY stopped reporting on July 9. .gov continues to report daily.
+1 just for the sweet avatar. Tip o' the hat to ya.
Thank you.
Edit: Fuck you, junker.
Why not go to the actual source instead of some random website? Site below shows daily elevation.
http://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/hourly/levels.html
edit: how do I delete this post?
Simply delete the text, then click on the save button.
Unless someone has replied to your post. Then you are stuck.
Like now.
Why let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory?
Awe Man. Why you want to fuck up a good conspiracy?
Well done
You can't print water.
Same reason that they haven't reported that the Federal debt has been stuck at $25,000,000 below the legal limit of $18,112,975,000,000 since March........
hmmmmm.
Exactly my first thought. The water is gone (with the wind).
If it all goes away Las Vegas does too and the 'right' people might be affected...like Harry Reid.....
Tune-Up Time!
lost in a boating accident
It has all been bought by Nestle for $500 per 27 million gallons.
http://robinwestenra.blogspot.co.nz/2015/08/corporate-criminal-nestle-ex...
+1 Nestle is another scum mega company like Mon-Satan.
Las Vegas and lake Mead getting karma coming back to them for f**king som many people over. Las Vegas is Satan's den of shit.
You'll know there is something wrong when you see Mars bars floating in the Lake Mead water. Only those aren't Mars bars.
What's a bear gonna do when all the woods have been chopped down? He ain't gonna shit in the woods, that's for sure.
50 million people want to live in the desert SW and people are surprised when water gets low?
Obviously they don't need anymore since the chart shows it was going up!
Everythings fine!
Cause you have to lie when it's important.
Reporting levels here http://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/hourly/levels.html
Ho(o)vering along 1078 for a while now.
Very alert, Fips, + 1
I guess everything is fine then? So why not report it?
Hey Bay :)
cut spending by eliminating redundancy? Whoops, that;d mean efficient gubmint - forget it =]
.gov does report it. Daily. The garbage cited in the post is from http://www.water-data.com . Only they know why they're not reporting. They get their data from the same place Fips pointed out. Perhaps they're just lazy.
Above average rainfall in the spring and early summer in Utah has kept Mead above critical levels. This article yet more fear-mongering scare-porn from ZH.
ooooh burn!
I don't see how it can be stable for two months in the middle of summer when it was dropping like a brick before. Have they really conserved that much? Or are they draining impoundments upstream? Or have they actually cut off the pumps already? Pretty scary all around.
Vegas has had some very heavy rain storms this summer. It's likely the watershed areas upstream from Hoover had the same kind of precipitation and it's made its way through the system to Hoover.
As bad as the water situation is, does anyone know if they're still generating the same levels of hydroelectric there or have they had to cut back on that to save the wter?
it isn't local rain that fills Mead, it is runoff from Rockies and Wind Rivers mountains....which had normal or normal plus snowpack. summer is when it melts and things replenish. lake powell is rising. things are dry, but not a disaster (at least in the Colorado R watershed....CA and Sierra Nevada runnoff is worse).
Powell has been going down for a good while. Any idea if the decline started much sooner than in the past? Because if yes, than in 2016 they really will stop reporting Mead levels... (provided same winter as last one)
Thanks, elegance.....i stand corrected. Lake Powell was rising with runoff through mid-july. Technically the runoff is still going on, but has fallen below the outflow levels, so it is dropping again. Aside from short episodes, is likely to drop till late next spring. Normal cycles. Everybody is hoping for a good wet winter all across the west, for sure.
Yep, Lake Powell going down steadily - explains the stable level of Mead. Probably the real doom and gloom story here is Lake Powell going down sooner than expected?
In any case, this is bollocks article denting credibility of Zerohedge. On same page where Mead isn't updating, Powell is. Cursory Google search would reveal this. And with the amount of ads - that's not a government site anyway...
Yep, correct assumption.
Here's what the IP address of the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation site looks like:
http://www.whois.com/whois/137.77.5.61
And here's the information from the web site that the Tylers got their "information" from, 1AN1-NETWORK
http://www.whois.com/whois/216.250.124.28
They really should change the title of the article. It's not "The Government" that isn't reporting anything. It's WaterData.com that's not reporting it.
And they are?? http://www.water-data.com/adinfo.php probably not the best source of information.
Imagine the amount of views/hits that web site gets whenever ZH posts BS articles linking to them, $$$$$. ZH is starting to post some twisted stuff. Take everything posted here with a grain of salt, do your own research.
ZH is starting to post some twisted stuff.
What the fuck do you expect when ZH is owned by ABC Media, Inc.? That's about as main stream as it gets in my book. Typically you get better information from the comments than the articles (at the least the comments are more entertaining).
They are holding it constant like the national debt
E is for Empty.
Just seasonally adjust it up to a healthy range. Problem solved
Have they started the debt clock yet?
I'm sure its because the problem is fixed now
Phoenix and Tucson will be alright, they have other sources, Vegas is screwed.
Fun fact, despite the population explosion, the Phoenix metro area uses less water today then it did in 1958.
Of course, Las Vegas is only screwed because NAWAPA wasn't created, but hey, we have to bailout derivatives and wage wars to mask our funding, arming, and training of terrorists for decades.
As long as there is adequate funding, water is not required for liquidity.
So why they stopped reporting?
I guessing... because water level went up?
I guessing... because water level in many southern California reservoirs went up?
I guessing... because huge El Nino is coming up this winter?
I guessing... because they do not want to scare tourists from Las Vegas?
For balanced view about this whole drought and water crisis see this:
https://sostratusworks.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/california-waterworld-of...
Can you imagine Vegas 'drying up'...? What would life be like not being treated to a sea of semi-cawliflowered-ear MMA wannabe's and Boob jobs-on-parade on a nightly basis...?
I selflessy volunteer to take in one or more of those poor thirsty hookers.
How about getting everyone to travel to Lake Meade and piss in it?
thats why they quit reporting
Reminds me, who had the bright idea to put a Sea World in San Antonio, Texas. Doesn't it border the Chihuahua Desert?
Stupid
I'm really hoping for a massive El Nino this winter
to resupply the system.
Somehow, I think whatever happens this coming season - be it either 'Apres moi, le deluge', or the Eastern U.S. accepting drought refugees en masse, the results are going to be anything but 'normal'...
Fill it with shade balls, they can drink those.
Dark shade balls so the water heats and evaps faster.
It could be that the water level has dropped below the level of the lowest measurement sensor.
There using the water to fight historic drought in the West. Dah!
Government could be draining Lake Mead so we’ll go along with bailing out CalPERS .
Is CalPERS holding Nestle stock?
No problem, just print some! Dew eye hav ti do all th thinking fer ya?!
Q. Why Has The Government Stopped Reporting Lake Mead Water Levels?
A. Because when the data doesn't fit the official narrative you stop reporting it.
The lake has been replenished with water derivatives.
Good one lololhahaololo
Let them shower with Peier
Per the Lake Mead water level site http://mead.uslakes.info/Level.asp it is currently at 1078.2 feet MSL.
This is not the time or place for facts. Please stop.
"IV drip that sustains Phoenix and Tucson"
So Phoenix and Tucson have the same water problems? Phoenix has 6 times the amount of thirsty people and NO significant aquifer. Most CAP water from the Colorado enters Tucson and goes directly into groundwater recharge, but in Phoenix it goes to the treatment plant for immediate use.
Also, a large underground storage cavern is being built under Lake Mead. When finished, they will pull the plug on the lake and store water underground to reduce evaporation losses. I can't explain why levels are not being recorded and posted, but it clearly didn't go from 1085 to 1074 to zero.
This one's easy. Gives time for the major contributors to comb through their portfolios and get rid of anything tied to them in these areas before the scare gets teeth: stocks, property, etc.. Only the little guy gets screwed.
Irrevelant once they blow Hoover so Reid & Son can relocate their Chinese solar farm deal given the Bundy show down.
Just divide the national debt by...oh wait...that's not reported anymore either....
Looking at the database list, it seems the lakes under Nevada (Harry Reid) control has been silenced, while Lake Powell is in a different state. Just sayin'.
Colorado River? I thought it was contaminated with cyanide now.
the animas feeds into the CO at Henderson which is south of LV, the part of CO should benefit from el Nino rains which would work to dilute all that crap
Great. Saved by diluted cyanide.
They could just fill it with rocks, that'll raise the level.
Somebody should go there and report.
The water level hasn't turned into Gold EPA water propaganda.
T Boone Pickens
https://www.popularresistance.org/wall-street-mega-banks-are-buying-up-t...
Leverage for mandating Climate change law's. Piss off Obama.
The Gov't stopped reporting the level of Fed debt 3 months ago, so whats so important about the levels of Lake Mead ?
Its the neo Bolshevik way... Thanks Obama and racist and hateful Admin! Thanks Boehner and McConnell ! Hey Mitch I guess you can't lead with your chin anymore, Where did it go?
Levels are measured the same way global warming and unemployment is measured...and don't get me started on vaccination deaths and oxycoton deaths while marijuana is illegal in most states...fuk the banker owned government
"Why Has The Government Stopped Reporting Lake Mead Water Levels?"
Winston Smith is on vacation.
Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity..
this is my choice for most likely disaster of the year, people leaving Las Vegas with mattressed tied to the roof of their car. millions of people, no work, no home no money no water.then the power goes out, no lights. you see El Nino will not save Las Vegas in its current likely form because the high than normal prec all happens in a band south of the watershed which feeds the Co river. and one more thing, when the water level in the river drops it allows for black swan situation, even a small earth quake can alter the path of the river or create a lake upstream which would stop the flow for days or month.so california is the most likely place to relocate these people but whats wrong with that picture? this is when i would like to know what the CIA is thinking? they are paid to plan for this kind of thing.
We should print money and throw the money into Lake Mead. The displacement of water will cause the water level to rise.
SOLUTION : Print money into it and the water level will rise !
Black swan and farm fresh sweet corn chowder on the menu here tonight ! What water ? There is a government pick up truck that has an employee that measures water flow every two months in a creek that is never more than two.feet deep and 12 feet wide in my suburb! I wonder what his wages/pensions/benefits will cost we the people over his lifetime ! I believe they are 20 years and out type employees too?
This shit show has putrifaction floating to the surface in so many places and such different scenarios that a butterfly flapping its wings at the wrong place may be all it takes now.
Markets over night could be interesting. Not a trader but no head in the sand either. Happy Sunday all.
NSTR
As a Vegas resident I have a foolish optimism that somehow the Big Wig Casino execs will make something happen because they dont want to lose out on the profit...but hell who knows we're probably fucked
The residents of Angkor Wat were sure their elites knew what they were doing.
"Who cut down all the fucking trees?" resident of Easter Island.
"Calm down, I am sure our elites have a back up plan"
I suggest you become a ZH hero. Go out to one of the now-dry boat launches, then walk down to where you find water, then walk/climb along one shoreline a ways, and scratch your own mark in the rocks at the current water level. Then go back every week or two, scratch a new mark, measure the distance between, and report the results here in ZH.
We will thank you. :-)
PS: I know that doesn't give the official level, but it does establish the ongoing trend.
The biggest of the Big Wigs is currently in BK and sevral others aren't doing so hot. I doubt Lake Mead water levels even crosses their puny minds.
Too bad about Mead though. It was my water skiing Mecca for almost 30 years. Haven't been there in 5 years. All my favorite coves are gone and new hazards popping up everywhere.
I noticed this a few weeks ago. I was wondering when it would make the news. Living in Phoenix I wonder how soon it will time to pack up and move.
How can you best short LV sod companies ?
They aren't reporting it for the same reason that the national debt hasn't moved for 6 months......., it's all bullshit
I can see Lake Superior from my kitchen window. The world's largest fresh water lake. From Minnesota, the Mississippi flows South, Lake Superior East and the Red River North to Hudson Bay. Sittin on top of the world.......
Largest by surface area, but lake Baikal is much larger by volume.
Largest by surface area, but lake Baikal is much larger by volume.
Communist! USA, USA, USA . . . . . ;-)
I can see Lake Superior from my kitchen window. The world's largest fresh water lake.
And the water is so clean in Lake Superior that you can actually drink the water right out of the lake when you are offshore 10 miles or so . . .
Nestle?
Water for fracking?
Secret miltary base water supply?
Just like ZH to expect the government to do the job! How hard is it for some enterprising person in LV to go to Lake Mead with some waterproof paint and a small brush, mark the water level and return the next week to see how far down the water level has gone. Instead, all you Communists want the government to do the job for you.
Not me! I'm a firm believer in free mark-its. If there are any free mark-iteers in LV reading this post, hows about you go down to the lake and mark it. Mark it again next week and report back to us. I'd do it myself but I live 12,000 miles away.
Why do you need water proof paint ?
Just move the measuring stick deeper into the lagoon. You catch bigger lobsters that way, but be careful not to move it too deep or the Professor with think the island is sinking.
if there isnt any water they cant hide it so eventually we will know what is going on......
even Lake Mead is deflating. we had to rename Area 51 to Area 6 1/2
The pool elevation of Lake Meade is 1,078.16 feet as of August 22, 2015. It was down .01 inches from the previous day. The elevation given is above mean sea level or MSL. Yes, it is low but they are reporting it and have been as normal on several sites.
Upstream:
http://www.usbr.gov/uc/water/basin/tc_cr.html
Lake Mead & downstream:
http://www.usbr.gov/lc/riverops.html
If we seasonally adjust the levels we might find that the lake is actually almost full
Lake Mead supplies water to Phoenix and Tucson? Someone tell the author to Google CENTRAL ARIZONA PROJECT, or at least hire someone with technical skills to fact-check your stories.
Thought they Drilled a big hole in the bottom of Meade. Water for decades now. Worry about it then.
Why? The sensors are not sensing anything, so there's nothing to report. Someday soon nothing will come out of the taps. When questioned the federal govt can "plausibly" say no one saw it coming, because the sensors didn't sense anything. And, now, as there really isn't anything to see here, (it's all gone down the tubes,) move along! Maybe go somewheres where it actually stays wet!
Folks, the government is reporting the lake level, same as always. One site has hourly readings for today just a few minutes old. The story is bogus.
"We have one simple question - why did the government stop reporting Lake Mead Water Levels six weeks ago?"
Silly question. Why did the government stop reporting radiation levels after Fukishima ?
The same reason the the national debt figure is frozen.
It's a fucking disaster and they can't do anything about it.
The gov't will straight up let you walk right off a cliff to avoid premature panic.
Found official water levels for lake Mead 1078 feet as of 22 Aug.
www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/hourly/levels.HTML
Delete
I found; Page Cannot be Found.
Yes, Virginia - water has been notoriously scarce in a desert....
I wonder why in all the months, now years reading these kind of stories, it was only last week that a TV news report covered the construction of a much deeper aqueduct being completed that will tap LM water for more than 10 years if not a drop of replacement presents.
The government quit reporting the water level when they found out that they can't print water.