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Submitted by James H. Kunstler via Kunstler.com,

Even the formerly august New York Times grants that Donald J. Trump has ignited a voter firestorm of grievance against a dumb show election process that rewards a craven avoidance of real issues. Immigration is actually a stand-in for the paralysis, incompetence, overreach, and bloatedness of government generally in our time — but it is a good doorway into the larger problem.

Immigration is a practical problem, with visible effects on-the-ground, easy to understand. I’m enjoying the Trump-provoked debate mostly because it is a pushback against the disgusting dishonesty of political correctness that has bogged down the educated classes in a swamp of sentimentality. For instance, Times Sunday Magazine staffer Emily Bazelon wrote a polemic last week inveighing against the use of the word “illegal” applied to people who cross the border without permission on the grounds that it “justifies their mistreatment.” One infers she means that sending them back where they came from equals mistreatment.

It’s refreshing that Trump is able to cut through this kind of tendentious crap. If that were his only role, it would be a good one, because political correctness is an intellectual disease that is making it impossible for even educated people to think — especially people who affect to be political leaders. Trump’s fellow Republicans are entertainingly trapped in their own cowardliness and it’s fun to watch them squirm.

But for me, everything else about Trump is frankly sickening, from his sneering manner of speech, to the worldview he reveals day by day, to the incoherence of his rhetoric, to the wolverine that lives on top of his head. The thought of Trump actually getting elected makes me wonder where Arthur Bremer is when we really need him.

Did any of you actually catch Trump’s performance last week at the so-called “town meeting” event in New Hampshire (really just a trumped-up pep rally)? I don’t think I miscounted that Trump told the audience he was “very smart” 23 times in the course of his remarks. If he really was smart, he would know that such tedious assertions only suggest he is deeply insecure about his own intelligence. After all, this is a man whose lifework has been putting up giant buildings that resemble bowling trophies, some of them in the service of one of the worst activities of our time, legalized gambling, which is based on the socially pernicious idea that it’s possible to get something for nothing.

I daresay that legalized gambling has had a possibly worse effect on American life the past three decades than illegal immigration. Gambling is a marginal activity for marginal people that belongs on the margins — the back rooms and back alleys. It was consigned there for decades because it was understood that it’s not healthy for the public to believe that it’s possible to get something for nothing, that it undermines perhaps the most fundamental principle of human life.

Trump’s verbal incoherence is really something to behold. He’s incapable of expressing a complete thought without venturing down a dendritic maze of digressions, often leading to an assertion of how much he is loved (another sign of insecurity). For example, when he attacked Jeb’s (no last name necessary) statement that we have to show Iraqi leaders that “we have skin in the game,” Trump invoked the “wounded warriors,” saying “I love them. They’re everywhere. They love me.” In the immortal words of Tina Turner, “what’s love got to do with it?”

Trump’s notion that he can push around world leaders such as Vladimir Putin by treating them as though they were president of the Cement Workers’ Union ought to give thoughtful people the vapors. It doesn’t seem to occur to Trump that other countries could easily get pugnacious towards us. He would have us in a world war before the inaugural parade was over.

The trouble is that it’s not inconceivable Trump could get elected. Farfetched, perhaps, but not out of the question. The USA is heading for a very rough patch of history — as those of you with your eyes on the stock indexes lately may suspect. The country stands an excellent chance of waking up some morning soon to discover it is broke and broken. When that happens, all the anxiety and animus will be focused on looking for scapegoats, and they are likely to be the wrong ones. World leaders considered Hitler a clown in the early going, too, you know. But the Germans were wild about him. He pushed a lot of the right buttons under the circumstances. Trump is worse than Hitler. And the American people, alas, are now surely a worse lot of ignorant, raging, tattooed slobs than the German people were in 1933. Be very afraid.

 

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Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:43 | 6465944 Silenus
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Kunstler is a Jew. That says a lot.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:52 | 6465987 johnvallo
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Comparisons are pointless. But Trump is no doubt a demagogue and has tyrant written all over him.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:53 | 6465999 ACP
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"As a journalist, Kunstler continues to write for The Atlantic Monthly, Slate.com, RollingStone, The New York Times Sunday Magazine, and the Op-Ed page where he often covers environmental and economic issues. Kunstler is also a leading supporter of the movement known as "New Urbanism".

'Splains it.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:56 | 6466024 johnvallo
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Ad-hoc and Trump is still a demagoguing tyrant. 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:04 | 6466064 THE 4th Quadrant
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Trumpo is worse than his daughters joo cunt.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:10 | 6466093 toady
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Hitler was a saint compared to Trump.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:12 | 6466108 Richard Chesler
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Don't know about Trump. The Hillary cunt on the other hand, certainly is worse.

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:16 | 6466128 johnvallo
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"Don't know about Trump". LOL

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:27 | 6466176 0b1knob
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< Worse than Hitler.

< Better than Hillary.

 

 

Or false dilemma?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:30 | 6466189 Manthong
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Is Trump Worse Than Hitler?

Of course he is.

 

He is also worse than Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Vlad the Impaler, Attila the Hun, Loki, Ming the Merciless and Beelzebub all combined.

If we put a guy like him in charge we would have wars, terrorism and refugee flight all over most of the mid-east and other places.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:37 | 6466226 THE 4th Quadrant
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+100

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:51 | 6466287 Slave
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Nearly every politician is worse than Hitler.

No sarc.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:56 | 6466307 TongueStun
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CUNT-SLUR is a typical Zionist jew employing socialist jew Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals 101.....name calling from a socialist jew...it shows their fear.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:57 | 6466315 macholatte
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The thought of Trump actually getting elected makes me wonder where Arthur Bremer is when we really need him.

 

 

And there you have it.

The manifestation of the Classical Stereotypical Liberal Mental Illness. Kunstler has outdone even himself by advocating that because he cannot come to grips with “the real issues” created by his very own pathetically incompetent cohorts in the Progressive Party he seeks to have the opposition murdered. He would be quite happy to see Trump simply executed as well as everyone else who disagrees with him all the while he would read aloud the Constitution and sing the praises of democracy.

 

Kunstler, you are absolutely FUBAR.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:09 | 6466372 Normalcy Bias
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Kunstler laughably jumped the shark with this piece.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 22:03 | 6466864 Manthong
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I am perplexed.

Are there that many folks hereabouts who absolutely need a /sarc?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 22:58 | 6467054 Fish Gone Bad
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3 out of 10 people are absolutely unaware they have no sense of humor. If you think a little, you can probably name quite a few. Unfortunately, these same humorless people think they are _____'s gift to _______ and have no issue judging you and everyone else.

Sorry.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 02:07 | 6467414 Transformer
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These diatribes against Trump are ludicrous.  Can anyone point out to me how Trump would be worse than the last two liar puppets?

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 03:43 | 6467490 Manthong
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You can bet that the NSA and CIA have more than a few gigabytes of Trump communications and activities.

Maybe he would get a little pissed about that and put an end to some of that wasteful and abusive nonsense.

 

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 01:57 | 6467380 giovanni_f
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Just for the record, I share your perplexion. One of those stupid "pulling the Hitler" articles. I am wondering if its really about Trump in the first place, or if it is more about reminding the world that the benchmark of evil is German, the benchmark of victimness is Jew implying that it is fully ok burn Arabs alive and that Israel has 100+ nuclear warheads whereas Iran finds itself in the position of having to open its facilities to international inspections.

The good thing with Kunster articles is that you can see from the title that there is no genuine content.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:51 | 6466529 jon dough
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Can't up arrow this enuff, spot-fucking-on.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:52 | 6466531 jon dough
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dup

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:59 | 6466324 Bendromeda Strain
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Just tell me already. Is TRUMP WORSE THAN KUNTLER?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:22 | 6466418 MalteseFalcon
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Trump is worse than Hitler?  Does that mean I don't get to wear a snazzy uniform and call myself a member of a master race?

Well forget Trump then.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:42 | 6466482 Dakota Kid
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I wish I had the time back that I wasted reading this worthless BS.  I was hoping to learn some history or at least read a coherent discussion that related to the title.

 

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 23:00 | 6467058 Fish Gone Bad
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Bringing up Hitler is usually where an argument goes to "11" on the retard dial.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 02:06 | 6467412 giovanni_f
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The last three "worse-than-Hitlers" I remember were: Milosevic, Saddam Hussein, Gaddhafi. Any questions?

(For the slow: Two of them were physically killed "saudi-style", the Serb was politically eliminated).

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 21:51 | 6466801 GeezerGeek
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"If we put a guy like him in charge we would have wars, terrorism and refugee flight all over most of the mid-east and other places. "
About a year after LBJ beat Goldwater in 1964, a columnist - it may have been Art Buchwald - wrote a satirical essay about all the horrible things the US would have been doing in Viet Nam had Goldwater been elected. Of course any informed reader would realize that the actions attributed to the supposed warmonger Goldwater were exactly the things that LBJ had himself done. So I guess you're suggesting is that Trump would emulate our Dear Leader. Or would, if he's as bad a Kunstler states.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:35 | 6466216 cocoablini
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Wy are all politicians compared the Hitler. Obama, Trump, Merkel, Hillary, Putin. Its getting stupid and demeaning to the real uprising of fascism. If you do not like him fine- there is nothing you have cited that even implies the same scale as Hitler. Its not a great candidate, but calling politicians Hitler is a fucking cliché. If they are idiots just say that instead, and leave the 4 -6 million people Hitler really killed out of this

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 05:18 | 6471866 jaxville
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  Yeah....  Comparing all that vile slime (former and wannabe politicians) to Adolf Hitler is just depressing.  Kunstler is a piece of shit and I hope someone around around here flushes the toilet before the smell gets worse. 

   There is a reason that all we ever hear is Hitler was the "most evil person ever"  I used to buy into that and now I understand why 99% of what the media says about him is total bullshit.  I think the slime like Kunstler and his bretheren are getting nervous that folks are waking up are beginning to see the real source of the majority of our problems.

   I hope we get to see another Hitler but not someone who was as kind hearted and generous as he was.  I am hoping for someone kind of nasty who will actually do all the things Hitler was wrongly accused of doing.  I can't see any other way out of this mess we have been lead into.

  Like the late Edgar Steele used to say; "next time they better have a new planet picked out".

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:33 | 6466205 SuperRay
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This article is spot on.  Trump is entertaining, but he's entertaining because he's such an obvious and extreme narcissist.  But then we live in a narcissistic age where the only aspect to consider in a decision is, how will it make me look?

The idea of sentimentality driving the decision-making process, rather than logic, reason, and justice, makes me sick (there's a pun in there somewhere).  Trump appeal to a minority of people who actually think requires a parsing out of his stated positions.  11 million illegal aliens can't be deported?  who says?  You just take the first step and keep walking.  

Trump says things from time to time that make sense, but his castigation of the other candidates drives his appeal.  They just can't stomach the idea of another corporate puppet as the only choice available.

Trump is a prophet.  He's waking people up.  Whoever actually ends up as president might be the real thing.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:26 | 6466429 MSimon
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Well Trump likes Socialism for Criminals aka Prohibition. So there is that.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:34 | 6466455 Kinskian
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If Trump wins, does Kunstler get sent to a Concentration Camp (Trumpwitz)? If so, Trump has definitely got my vote. I think Kunstler even promotes a future where things are produced locally and handmade, he should be quite happy with camp life. 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:25 | 6466163 tmosley
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Hitler's main problem was that he rejected the Free Market. If he hadn't, then the Third Reich might still exist today, and the USSR would have likely collapsed in the 50's.

Free Markets fix many, many problems, even with pesky ethnic and religious minorities (including ones that are by and large actively hostile to their host country). Just do your job and put down the Marxist revolutions, and everything else will fall into place.The US used to have a bunch of Italian anarchists running around blowing shit up, but now Italian-Americans are so American, we rarely ever call them that. We just call them "white".

Trump is a strongman, just like Hitler, for certain. But there is nothing inherently wrong with having a strongman in charge, so long as he adheres to the right ideology--one that doesn't harm the people, and one that helps them over the long term.  THAT is the question people should be asking themselves about Trump. 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:35 | 6466217 THE 4th Quadrant
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"Free Markets"?

You mean joo markets, right? WTF is free about 'merica anymore. Christ you are a stoopid fooker!

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 22:11 | 6466897 tmosley
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Please point out EXACTLY where I said America has a free market.

The free market in the US died the day they installed a central bank. Prior to that, it was free banking, which has been shown to be the most resilient form of financial system in the history of the world, practiced for a short time only in Scotland and the US before being squashed by your joo friends.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 23:27 | 6467131 Mute Button
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Hitler's problem was that he rejected the central banking cartel. Axis Powers...Axis of Evil...see a pattern here?

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 03:57 | 6467495 BidnessMan
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Actually Hitler's main problem was he got distracted by Yugoslavia and waited until the end of June to invade Russia. If he had launched on May 1, likely would have defeated Russia.  Plus for some reason he declared war on the US a couple of days after Pearl Harbor.    

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:14 | 6466113 OldPhart
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Wow, between the Greater Depression, the 'Great Fall of China', a one day thrill-ride in the DOW, and Trump absolutely wiping the bought-and-paid-for slate of selectees in the duopoly, it's clear that some have lost their minds.

Godwin's Law, much?

I'm not voting for Trump.  But I find him an effective laxative for the shit we've had to endure over the last thirty-some years!

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:59 | 6466326 Divine Wind
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Fuck you.

All of your posts are about Jews.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:58 | 6466026 y3maxx
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Called it first!!!

 

from my posting on the other Trump discussion...

"They're Getting Away With Murder": Trump Blasts "Paper-Pushing Hedge Fund Guys" On Taxes

 

Sounds Hitler'ish/Nationalist

Blame the Hedge Funds (Jooos)

Trump's blonde hair even looks Aryan.

Prediction...Canada will be the next Poland,

and exterminate all those Mexican aliens.

Correct me if I'm wrong folks

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:15 | 6466120 fooshorter
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Your wrong. corrected.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:57 | 6466030 Occident Mortal
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Comparing Trump to Hitler... already?

Have Trumps opposition got any cards left?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:03 | 6466057 Bilderberg Member
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Thanks for the bird cage liner Kuntsler

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:47 | 6466179 Supernova Born
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Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:10 | 6466063 cowdiddly
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Stupid people always do this because Hitler is the only bad man they know of and about all they know about history. never Mao, Attila, Pol Pot ect.Cue Hillary and others calling Putin Hitler.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:12 | 6466104 ZD1
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Yep, the left always drags out comparisons to Hitler when losing an argument.

They never mention that Marxist communist dictators like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. killed MILLIONS of their own citizens.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:28 | 6466182 swmnguy
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Are you saying it's "The Left" who's losing an argument to Donald Trump?  Are you saying those most desperate to derail Trump are "The Left?"  You may be unfamiliar with some things we in America call "The Right," and also (not the same thing) The Republican Party.

First of all, in America today there is no organized ideological Left.  Secondly, what Left there is hates Obama and Hllary a lot more than they do Donald Trump.

Anyway, Trump is no Hitler.  If he were more intellectual, he might have Mussolini potential.  If he had a distinguished military record, he might have a shot at being a Goering.  But Trump is no Hitler.  A real Hitler would make use of a Trump for as long as it was advantageous.  And we'd all know when the Hitler character would have gotten what he wanted from the Trump character.  Suffice it to say that a nailgun incident would be unusually humane in such a circumstance.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:10 | 6466377 Tortuga
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Shouldn't have any cards left.

Nascar kicked him out, so they cain't play the race card.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 02:04 | 6467411 mkhs
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#RedneckHillbillyLivesMatter

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:01 | 6466044 Big Corked Boots
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Kuntsler is also based in the Albany, NY area, which scientists have shown to include an intelligence gravity well.

It isn't that smart people go in and don't come out; it's that smart people know enough to never go in there at all.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:20 | 6466145 NotApplicable
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He also voted for Obummer twice.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:28 | 6466183 European American
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He also thinks arabs were behind 9/11...still.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:09 | 6466374 Fun Facts
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Everyone who isn't a ZWO stooge gets compared to Hitler.

Go figure.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:22 | 6466417 oddjob
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Kuntsler blew it, the Donald's hair was screaming Stalin and he went with Hitler.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 23:03 | 6467067 Ms. Erable
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For idiots like Kunstler, Stalin is a hero.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 02:06 | 6467413 mkhs
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I happen to be an idiot and I don't like your insinuation.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:14 | 6466389 Pseudo Anonym
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...and he also thinks that making activities he doesnt like illegal solves anything:

I daresay that legalized gambling has had a possibly worse effect on American life the past three decades than illegal immigration.

i.e. as if making alcohol (during prohibition) illegal solved anything

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:09 | 6466370 Tortuga
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So, it's ah, a settled science then?

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:06 | 6466355 44magnum
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fuck him

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:16 | 6466396 401K of Dooom
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You forgot to mention that Mr. Kunstler has never had to deal with the "challenges" of the urban landscape of the late 20th and early 21st century.  He does not have to deal with the foul breath of the plebeans as we have to.  That and he writes for the literary circle of the "Beautiful People" and the "Hampton Set".

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 01:21 | 6467348 SheHunter
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Journalist.  Really.  Journalist you say?  Whining, self-absorbed hypcrite is a more accurate description.  I had the misfortune to attend one of his speaking events where he went on a pompous tirade against working class peons too ignorant to care that driving their trucks and tractors is polluting the air breathed by the refined and gifted few such as himself.   His refinement showed its true colors when I reminded him he had spent the first 10 minutes of his speech bragging on the number of intercontinental appearances he had made in the last month via his private jet and asked him to please share with his lowly audience what make and model aircraft he owns that emits no pollutants. He called me a fucking bitch which was very very OK because it meant he knew he looked stupid. "Member that moment Sir Kunstler???

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 02:53 | 6467465 bidaskspread
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Mr Kunstler, my great uncle continues to have the Japanese swords he took from generals of world war Ii. I don't care how Trump acts, but you are comparing has actions to millions slaughtered. Your write up is dribble and is better served writing up the Kardashian or kat. You sir are a complete disgrace  I don't support war, but the poor fkers that fight it in our name,  I will support. Why not toss some highschool football players at some NFL players and then tell me how dangerous football is. Fku Mr. Knunstler.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 03:42 | 6467489 migra
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That begs the question WTF is this Cunstler's writing doing here??? 

 

I like Trump a whole lot better than the asshole who wrote this crap.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:54 | 6466005 MANvsMACHINE
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Isn't Obama cut from that same demagoguish cloth?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:57 | 6466027 johnvallo
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Sure

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:36 | 6466221 McMolotov
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A. This was a stupid article.

B. Obama is a demagogue and so is Trump. I'm not sure how this is confusing.

Both excel at telling potential supporters exactly what they want to hear and speaking to the lowest common denominator in an audience. Remember all the stuff about Obama and "neuro-linguistic programming" when he would give campaign speeches? Trump wrote an entire book about how to convince people to do whatever he wants. Nothing he says or does is unscripted or off-the-cuff. After all, the guy has been the star of a fake reality TV show for the last decade.

And speaking of similarities between Obama and Trump, Trump supporters are behaving... let's just say strikingly similar to the way Obama supporters behaved when Dear Leader was first running for president. Things are shitty, so it's understandable to a certain extent. But Trump can't save us from anything, folks. Nothing can at this point. I get that we all want a hero to swoop in and save the day, but it's not gonna happen. Not with Trump, not with anyone else. Best to brace for impact and hope we can get it over with quickly.

The main reason I don't like (or trust) Trump is that he has the very same "I can do anything!" bravado Obama had back in 2008. That should have been a warning sign to everyone. I can see Trump going around congress on any number of things. I can see him unilaterally getting us involved in pointless military action overseas. I can see him having fucking styrofoam pillars at his acceptance speech, and for the same ego-inflated reason Obama did. And if Trump supporters are intellectually honest, they'll admit I might be right. Is he owned by the same people as Obama and most of the Republicans? It's not clear, but a man who seems like he isn't owned by anybody can be every bit as dangerous if he thinks he only answers to himself.

That said, the guy isn't teh muthafuckin' Hitler. Kunstler, however, is a bit of a disingenuous cunt considering he voted for Obama the Messianic Demagogue TWICE.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:51 | 6466534 angel_of_joy
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...Obama is a demagogue and so is Trump

True. However, Trump is much more intelligent than Obama. Richer too...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:00 | 6466043 Oreilly
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Trump is no more likely to be a tyrant than any of the others.  And the fact that any president can become a tyrant is because previous a**holes have dismantled the stops to keep it from happening.  I admit that there now is no longer any separation of powers and that the two party system is two parties in name only, but that is not how it was designed to be and has only gotten there after 100 years of planned abuse.  Trump is for Trump, but that may be better than Trump being for the Republicrat World party.  Of course, it might not be ....

Kunstler is a laugh.  I believe the Tylers publish his drivel just to get a rise out of readers.  He's usually incoherent, and when not his statements contradict the life he leads.  He's a great example of "Do what I say, not what I do ... you peon!".  I never even bother to read his rantings, but get a kick out of reading the comments others make about him.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:46 | 6466258 astroloungers
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Boy oh boy....comp to hitler already? trump must be scarin the shit outta lots of folk. this is all just pushback for the last 6 1/2 years of this piece of shit in the white house...and it's funny. we are all deserving of a good laugh. and cuntsler, i don't get the vapors, but i am sure you do.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:59 | 6466566 booboo
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Um, Howard, we have been putting up with a guy who skips the formal and recommended method of passing laws "I got a pen, I got a phone" but don't have the little mustache for 7 fucking years and Now you are worried about a "hitler" hahaha, what a tool.

One another note it looks like grandpa Knustler is starting to emerge as he is coming to realize that all the pie in the sky policies of free shit for everyone is starting to blow up including the darling of the progs, illegals.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 03:28 | 6467485 Theosebes Goodfellow
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~"Comparisons are pointless. But Trump is no doubt a demagogue and has tyrant written all over him."~

Any more so than Obama has? Personally I'll trade the anti-America tyrant for a pro-America one any day.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 06:11 | 6467599 Ace006
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I think he's a closet cannibal. The Apprentice was a ruse to find a virgin to sacrifice. This man is a danger to world peace.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 21:10 | 6471022 Ace006
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Whoa, Nelly!

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:56 | 6466019 Motasaurus
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Every successful US politician since Kennedy has been worse than Hitler. They were all installed by former members of the Nazi party - fully fledged eugenics loving national socialists.
And, unlike , they have decades wortdecadesT of perfected propaganda techniques and technological developments to use against the citizenry.Things Hitler couldn't have dreamed of.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:00 | 6466031 oddjob
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With Princess Charles calling Putin worse than Hitler and now this, this Hitler guy is getting marginalized something harsh.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:08 | 6466084 ejmoosa
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The reputation of Hitler will live forever.

What people forget is that no one was willing to speak out against Hitler.

America is not the same as 1930's Germany.

People here speak out on anything and everything...and still get to live.

Unless it's about a Clinton.  Be careful there.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:29 | 6466188 messymerry
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If Clinton has to settle for a veep slot, there will be an assassination.

;-D

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:08 | 6466087 Winston Churchill
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Adolphe Trump does have a ring to it. I thought it was a wombat on his head,

not a wolverine.You live and learn.Seems the progressive are now getting scared of

the Don.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 02:13 | 6467420 mkhs
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Princess Charles.  Ha ha.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:59 | 6466036 Usurious
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trav7777-----''What was so bad about Hitler compared to all the other leaders back then?  He didn't do anything the rest of them wouldn't and didn't do.  Germany wanted rid of their banking clan and all their cousins.  Had Ben Gurion not been interested in making a political play for international recognition, they all would have moved to palestine.

Now, it turns out that Germany has a saner fiscal posture and policy, is not a warmongering imperial nation, they've gotten back to essentially protestant values of work and community.  They are one of the pillars of stability now in the world.  Nations with large tribe contingents are still warmongering and running confetti ponzis.

I mean, how many Germans did WE kill?  How many did the Soviets?  It was bad to be a polish woman during any part of this war, and the Soviets invaded, occupied and pillaged most of eastern europe for 40 years after the war.  Looking at the relative carnage, Hitler just doesn't make the grade as far as psychopathic dictators go, not compared to some of his contemporaries and many others throughout history.''

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 23:52 | 6467192 Mute Button
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It's weird how WWII was started because Poland and 'Great' Britian had a mutual defensive pact. So when Germany attacked Poland, 'Great' Britain declared war on Germany, true to the pact.

Funny, though, that 'Great' Britain didn't declare war on the USSR when it attcked Poland right after Germany did.

Wonder why?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:04 | 6466066 doctor10
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un fucking believable.

So Trump's not an "approved" political figure by the
all the oligarchy in unison?!!

More power to that All-American NewYawker!!!

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:41 | 6466237 jellen
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"to the wolverine that lives on top of his head."

LOL  thats a good one,

unless theres another choice Im voting for Adolph

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:51 | 6466530 markpower49
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Round up all the Kunstlers, progressives and blacks and dispose of them. They are the filth that is destroying the country.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 23:08 | 6467082 The central planners
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Donald Trump was introduced to the real state bussines thanks to a jew  so... dont be ignorant. Trump will bring no change. Same debt same bankers.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 04:04 | 6467506 SmittyinLA
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, Kuntsler is a Communist, there fixed it.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:44 | 6465949 Silenus
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This makes me doubt the Holocaust. Jews say Hitler killed six million Jews, yet Kunstler is saying Trump is even worse, though he hasn't killed any Jews. So if a Jew doesn't even take the supposed Holocaust seriously, why should anyone else?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:48 | 6465976 Victor E. Overbanks
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You should doubt the holocaust because much of the evidence that it occured is hearsay, conflicting testimony, and Russian propaganda. Not because someone compares Donald Trump to Adolph Hitler.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:54 | 6466002 CheapBastard
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Kuntsler is most likely simply another paid shill to bash any opponent of the FSA supporters. I'm sure he favors the Dem platform of tax (alot) and spend (even moar).

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:04 | 6466346 Tortuga
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Not to mention, CheapBastard the dim support, advocacy, and abject awe for a organization that discusses over after dinner apertifs, cutting through the face of a living breathing baby to extract the brain, whole.

Geeez. Who's that channeling?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:24 | 6466157 caconhma
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Hitler did not start the WWII. FDR, Churchill, and Stalin did.

Soviet Bolshevik Jews exterminated more than 30 millions Slaves, 8 millions Ukrainians (Golodomor), a half of all Kazakhs, etc,. They were no better than Pol Pat. The best comparison would be with ISIS.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:31 | 6466198 European American
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The Germans were a superior race (in every conceivable way) to the zionist jews and they are still paying for it.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 23:14 | 6467096 The central planners
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Thats exactly why Hitler was better, he killed 6 millions jews Trump has not killed none.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:45 | 6465950 Fred Garvin
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His hair is worse than Hitlar's, but not by much

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:48 | 6465972 DetectiveStern
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They say the US is a country obsessed with image so it's nice to see you guys accepting a guy with that thing on his head.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:54 | 6466000 ajax
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The US is a country obsessed with Hitler. Utterly obsessed.

Meanwhile the US supports every creep everywhere else on the planet who is as bad and even worse.

Always easy to admire/abhor the German Bogeyman.


Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:08 | 6466089 Consuelo
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The U.S. is 'obsessed' because 'Hitler' has proven to be very $profitable, in many more ways than most can think of...    And may I suggest, that when talking about the Hitler boogie-man construct in the U.S., that we sort it down a fair bit, because within you will find a few leading the chant, but the multitudes either ignorant or uninformed about the period which gave rise to him in the first place.

 

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:11 | 6466096 Skateboarder
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Hitler == bad. There's a jillion hours of teevee saying so. Details are irrelevant.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:41 | 6466233 N3M3SIS
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The Teevee?  You talking about the device that reaffirms the programming administered by the pedagogues at gubmint skool? 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:30 | 6466443 TeethVillage88s
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lol I think he is abbreviating my screen name. No. Kidding.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:00 | 6466331 Tortuga
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Uh, no.The conservative US is obsessed with working, playing, eating, family, friends, fishing and hunting, clinging, love of country and our country's warriors, but not that scumbag Austrian.

It's only the baby killing progs that resort to that sort of mo ronic bullshit.

 

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:52 | 6470685 Ace006
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Well, SOMEone's obsessed with him.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 02:46 | 6467454 bunnyswanson
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Roger that.  Stark contrast in public reception sans makeup, hair, coordinated trendy new outfit, and the jewels is evident at every business transaction and personal interaction with whomever is nearby in a line somewhere, anywhere.  (not bad just not as good) - Better service, good service means everything.

Discrimination against the poor or those who refuse to drink the Jonestown Kool-aide laced with cyanide, "Everyone! Do the Same Thing!" 

Misfits could probably save the world but no one wants to do business with them.  Donald is 2nd geneation wealth.  by 3rd generation, their personality is replaced by their purchases and excursions - their favorite topic, themselves and their achievements.  Hhungry, as my exhusband (RIP) once stated, it is required to maintain a competitive edge.  Don't forget where you came from (Steve McQueen).  Legal team and assasins keep the wealthy in place.  I suppose this may be the Reason why the rich want to lock this status quo into place.  Nowhere but down for them under ordinary circumstances, living in run down mansions with 200 cats and no electricity is where they should be were the law of cause and effect / supply and demand allowed to be our guide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_nvWreIhg

Song by Onerepublic - "Instead of counting money, we'll count stars"

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:48 | 6465952 kevinearick
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First comes the demographic war, then the financial war, and then the physical war. Say bye-bye to the drive-by Christians on your way out the door. This has always been about the international bond market, and if you look back, you will see the critical blows. Funny, what you learn studying Navy over a lifetime.

Hit the body hard enough, and the head presents itself. I wonder if the upper middle class is cognizant enough to know that their wealth is debt. That's selective government breeding for you.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:46 | 6465954 agent default
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Is ZH now shilling in party politics?  Is ZH cashing in on its reputation?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:48 | 6465974 SgtShaftoe
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Kunstler was having writers block and this was the best he could come up with. That's my theory anyway.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:56 | 6466020 johnvallo
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ZH just hates demogogues. 

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 02:21 | 6467425 mkhs
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Read the comments.  Tyler knows comedy gold when he sees it.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:46 | 6465955 Teh Finn
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The unhinged rantings of the chatter class are getting hysterical.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:47 | 6465963 SgtShaftoe
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Trump probably isn't the next Hitler, but the next guy they cook up out of nowhere probably could be just as bad or worse.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:57 | 6466032 Brutlstrudl
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Some corporal waiting in the wings

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:54 | 6465964 ThroxxOfVron
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"Hillary IS worse than Hitler.  NO.

Jeb is just a lousy third rate Bush dropping: so a BIG NO to that, too.

Biden?  NO.

Rand?  NO.

Huckabible?  NO.

Sanders the Union shill?  NO.

 

We've been there and been done wrong by all of them and that.

 

What else have ya got?"

 

-disgusted and disgruntled Americans

 

 

 

That, unfortunately; is where we are...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:47 | 6465967 DetectiveStern
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From the outside watching America at the moment is like watching an elderly relative slowly succumb to old age and death.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:05 | 6466071 OldPhart
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Same watching from the inside.  This hasn't been MY government for about thirty years now.

 

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:47 | 6470911 Ace006
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It was great when RR came in. after that it was just WTF?

A putz like Cantor rose high and was replaced by an immigration patriot, I thought, but with him and the Rs as a whole it's all just gone to the test pattern, per SOP. 

Anybody home!? Nope.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:47 | 6465968 JenkinsLane
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"Either we have a country or we do not."

 

If you were in any doubt, now you know Cuntsler does not want you to have a country.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:48 | 6465975 NDXTrader
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WTF? Does anyone seriously think this? Good lord

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:50 | 6465977 CheapBastard
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Trump is Presbyterian.

 

Trump's mother was a Scottish immigrant, born on the Isle of Lewis, off the west coast of Scotland. Trump's paternal grandparents were German immigrants; Trump's grandfather, Friedrich Drumpf, was a successful Klondike Gold Rush restaurateur who anglicized the family name.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

 

He also has a legit birth certificate.

 

So whom do you want? Biden? Hitlery? Another Bush? If Trump gets elected, the Rep and Dems can only blame themselves; they both have essentially destroyed 90% of Merika's Middle Class.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:26 | 6466427 TeethVillage88s
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CheapBastard; Yeah maybe we need to shake up the existing order more than anything else. Maybe a Trump President would changes Department Heads, Push down new Doctrine, Push down new Philosophies, kick out political appointees to promote from within and gain the federal employees trust...

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 02:54 | 6467464 mkhs
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 "Friedrich Drumpf, was a successful Klondike Gold Rush restaurateur who anglicized the family name."

 

 

So "Kunstler" is the English version of "Drumpf"?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:51 | 6465985 db51
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Fuck you Jim Kunstler....another raging liberal worried that his "party" is going to get an ass kicking in the next election.   This stupid as fuck article shows just how far the left has gone off the rails since Trump blew their shitshow apart.  lmao    

Loved Fox tonight with Geraldo, Guilfoyle and Perino Trump bashing and slobbering over Jeb, who said he was elegant at the border, you know....speakng Spanish and all....FUCK YOU JEB...   FUCK YOU ASSCLOWNS   AND FUCK YOU AGAIN kUNSTLER....BRING IT TRUMP....

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:54 | 6466009 johnvallo
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LOL

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:54 | 6466540 db51
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Fuck you again Jim Kuntsler....I know you downvoted me.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:54 | 6466542 db51
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Fuck you again Jim Kuntsler....I know you downvoted me.   Double post...lmao....Fuck you twice you douche

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:50 | 6465986 loregnum
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He does seem like he could be a new style of Hitler and the sheeple seem to be loving it just like the Germans did then.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:01 | 6466052 Usurious
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When it comes to Jewish ties, no GOP candidate trumps Trump

http://www.jta.org/2015/08/07/news-opinion/politics/when-it-comes-to-jew...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:51 | 6465990 Mini-Me
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I don't vote any more.  It only encourages them.

That said, would it be asking too much to have someone who is normal running for president?  He doesn't have to be a choir boy.  Just someone normal - someone who doesn't think the solution to every problem involves yet another expensive government program or a military invasion.  

How about someone whose had a real job in the private sector?  Someone who understands the crushing tax and regulatory burden placed on businesses.  Maybe even someone who takes his oath of office seriously.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:54 | 6466004 db51
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Normal???lmfao....what we have going on politically is beyond anything that FUCKING NORMAL CAN FIX!   Normal will get you a Ben Carson.....lmao...sorry, but that guy might be normal....but he ain't gonna bring the heat necessary to take down Hitlery or Biden.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:07 | 6466081 OldPhart
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WE change elections and force some Corporate Accountant with military background to be in office.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:36 | 6466446 Pseudo Anonym
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not really,

....would it be asking too much to have someone who is normal running for president?  He doesn't have to be a choir boy.

like rob ford of toronto, still better than most polititians:

Ford has been the subject of a number of personal and work-related controversies and legal proceedings, including a conflict of interest trial that nearly resulted in his being removed from office.[3] In 2013, he became embroiled in a substance abuse scandal, which was widely reported in the national and international media.[4] Ford initially denied the allegations, but after a 2013 Toronto Police Service gang investigation led to police discovering videos of Ford, he admitted to all of the incidents, including public drunkenness, drinking and driving, and illegal drug use.[5] Ford admitted to smoking crack cocaine "probably in one of my drunken stupors".[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ford

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:51 | 6465991 Kelley
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Yeah, Trump is just like Hitler because he keeps talking about how Jews are rats and vermin. Oh wait a minute - he hasn't done that.

 

Never mind.

 

We have a guy in the WH who has armed ISIS, who has been on a rampage to behead, crucify and drown Christians. Obama won't allow those Christions to come to the US while he allows Muslims to come here in droves.

So where is the author's article about that? 

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:36 | 6466224 swmnguy
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It's on his website.  And Hitler was about a whole lot more than Jews.  He didn't get where he did by hating on Jews.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:53 | 6470946 Ace006
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A donde esta el linko?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:52 | 6465994 Sturm und Drang
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Jimmy jumped shark and I don't care.

Jimmy jumped shark and I don't care.

Fuck you Jimmy and Zionists too.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:52 | 6465996 world_debt_slave
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as on ZH, Hayek's "Road to Serfdom".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkz9AQhQFNY

 

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:53 | 6465997 smackdog
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There is no one more Hitleresque than the monkey in the WH now.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:53 | 6465998 Boomberg
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Comparing someone to be like Hitler is the ultimate statement to lose all your credibility. Saying someone is worse than Hitler means you not only lost all credibility but you are also a moron.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:54 | 6466001 RopeADope
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Thank you Kunstler for illustrating Godwin's Law.

When all arguments on the internet fail, the small mind resorts to the Hitler comparison.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:00 | 6466042 MANvsMACHINE
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Glad JK wrote this article to enlighten me.  I was thisclose to voting for Trump.  I guess I'll vote for Blabbering Biden or Braindead Bush now.  Thanks Kuntsler! 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:55 | 6466008 fooshorter
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Shame on ZeroHedge for reporting this clickbait horseshit.

The guy speaks his mind, achieves a fortune we all would like, lives his life unapologetically, and wants to fix a broken system in a non PC way.

 

Well Jim, WTF have you given us? Huh? Your 'smart' article shows just how fucking corrupt you liberal shills are. IF it was 1933 you would be PRAISING Hitler for how transformative and spoken he is and how he got through his prision to become a politcal star.

 

Hey Jim, YOU'RE FIRED.

 

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 00:41 | 6467288 silverer
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But you need to have the other side spurt out this nonsense from time to time, so you don't let your guard down.  Think of it as a necessary mental exercise.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:55 | 6466012 ramacers
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this article is fuckin' nuts.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:55 | 6466014 lordbyroniv
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Kunstler doesnt get that good leaders know how to live in both the fantasy world AND the real world.

Hitler lived too much in the fantasy world.

Trump I think may be the right guy for the times.

A scalpel in the hand of G-d.

 

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:55 | 6466015 lordbyroniv
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Kunstler doesnt get that good leaders know how to live in both the fantasy world AND the real world.

Hitler lived too much in the fantasy world.

Trump I think may be the right guy for the times.

A scalpel in the hand of G-d.

 

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:57 | 6466028 IndianaJohn
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The zionist kuntsler proves that he is a loser by bringing Hitler into his spiel.

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:58 | 6466034 MathWins
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STOP IT!  Unless a person has participated in the death of millions of people, they should not be compared to Hitler.  Comparisons, such as this article, are disgusting and negate the true horror that Hitler committed.  

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:04 | 6466068 falak pema
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well nobody knows what the future holds. So political extrapolation is a game people play like 'Animal farm' and 'brave new world'.

Does Trump have the potential to repeat Hiroshima and Naga with megaton power?

That is the more relevant question.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:41 | 6466339 ThroxxOfVron
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You've jumped the shark, Falak.

Hitler wasn't even enough: now you reach for Hiroshima?

FULL RETARD.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:27 | 6466180 Boxed Merlot
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Unless a person has participated in the death of millions of people...

 

And 30 millions of people in Russia count as?  Who were the Bolsheviks led by?

just wonderin'

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