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A Message To US Investors From China (& Your Broker)

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It's been quite a day for your average high net worth investor in US equities... so here are two messages from the most important people in the world - China and their broker...

 

 

h/t @Stalingrad_Poor and @RudyHavenstein

 

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Mon, 08/24/2015 - 15:58 | 6465075 Spitzer
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Faber on Bloomberg shortly...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:03 | 6465103 eatthebanksters
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I wonder how much he's made in the last couple of weeks...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:05 | 6465110 Bernoulli
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Everything will be fine.

That's what I've been saying all day!

http://www.denk-bubbles.com/just-fine

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:10 | 6465148 Theosebes Goodfellow
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Bad? Pshaw! Jumpers, I say!  We need genuine jumpers from tall buildings to know it's been a bad day. No jumpers, life is gravy.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:23 | 6465278 Ham-bone
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My guess is there will be an outright decline in middle class Chinese rather than any increase over the next decade. Negative Chinese demographics and the collapse of perhaps the greatest credit bubble of all time (China +1400% in 14 years) combined with slowing global exports don't bode well.  Global demographics, credit growth, and growth period are dead.

In 10yrs from now, the OECD demographic est. show there will be 15 million fewer 0-64yr/old Chinese but 63 million more 65+yr/olds...2015 is the peak total population for 15-64yr/old Chinese population and the decline in this segment + the 0-14yr/old segment (which began declining in the '70's) really pick up speed from here. China is set to hit peak total population in 2030 and begin outright declines...just like Japan is now.

Since WWII, (for every nation I've researched) once the core 15-64yr/old population has started declining, government debt has skyrocketed while private credit plummeted, and growth collapsed. Why will China be different?

Logic and data in the link...
http://bit.ly/1h9mmMS       

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:29 | 6465313 besnook
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china will be differentr because it still has 800 million people to bring into the 21st century. the west has zero with a declining population, unless you count illegal aliens in the usa and africans in europe.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:30 | 6465643 Dutti
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China is also different because they have not built a entitlement society over many decades.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:41 | 6465670 N2OJoe
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Things are great here on the outisde of the casino.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:04 | 6465777 Save_America1st
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Ebery-sing wir be FIRE!

 

There...fixed it for ya, sweetie.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:40 | 6465674 post turtle saver
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right, they're just Communists...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:42 | 6465940 Ginsengbull
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In China, everyone is entitled to work...

 

until they can't work anymore...

 

then they get their organs harvested.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:29 | 6465315 Pool Shark
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Look more closely:

The sign she's holding says:

"Everything will be fire."

 

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:48 | 6465439 Schwarze Tulpe
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OMFG.... Thanks to you I just got that!   LMAO!

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:50 | 6465452 cheech_wizard
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I had to zoom in to verify that it was indeed "fire"...

Standard Disclaimer: Never let this young lady enter a crowded theater.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:05 | 6465528 Farqued Up
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Well, I'll be dipped in a turd barrel, that sounds just a tiny bit like a Ponzi going bad.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 03:57 | 6467496 StychoKiller
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Looks to me like the sign She's holding up sez:  "Everything will be fire!"

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:10 | 6465143 Spitzer
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He was long the Euro so lots

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:04 | 6465107 SuperRay
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So what?! Is he going to really tell you anything? He'll talk his book, like everybody else

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:11 | 6465158 Spitzer
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Hes an Austrian.

 

Said that these kind of selloffs usually happen at the end of bear markets. But this is happening at the start.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:40 | 6465384 hailhillary
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I have a question.  Cramer or some other CNBC lugnut said that the reason the stock market is having a problem is because of a slowdown in China that would affect such companies as McDonalds, Apple, etc.  

Just how much business do these companies do in China?  If the trade deficit is so lopsided in China's favor, how is it a slowdown in their country can cause of massive wave in ours.  

DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.  I THOUGHT CHINA DID NOT ALLOW UNFETTERED TRADE INTO THEIR COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:12 | 6465386 hailhillary
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Duplicate please ignore.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:15 | 6465202 Lore
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I don't look to Faber in these interviews for brilliant cutting insights. He's an interesting character, but that's about it. No idea about his trading record.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:40 | 6465675 Buck Johnson
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Your telling me, lolololololol.

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:22 | 6466152 TheRideNeverEnds
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Seems doomers have gone mainstream, you know what this means right? The bottom is in, time to sheer the sheep in the other direction now.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:00 | 6465081 The man with po...
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A better message-

Welcome my friend... Welcome, to market hell!

OR better yet-

How to fuck over a muppet thrice in one day.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:00 | 6465083 pods
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Well, we are off the lows..........

pods

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:00 | 6465088 Spitzer
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still down quite a bit Pod man

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:02 | 6465095 bania
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I think that's Wi Tu Lo

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:02 | 6465100 davinci7_gis
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Word on the street is that Gartman was all in today!

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:00 | 6465085 KnuckleDragger-X
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The dance band is playing "nearer my god,to thee".......

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCEfqj9pDAI

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:06 | 6465087 FireBrander
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Welcome to the Global Economy...or, as it should be now correctly labeled...the Global Ponzi...

I can still here Bush, glowingly, preaching the virtues of a Global Economy and how economic sunshine would fall upon us into eternity if we would abandon our manufacturing economy in favor of a FIRE economy.

I immediately said to a friend..."Global economy = Global Recessions/Depression = Global Wars".

Maybe that was the NeoCon plan all along?

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:09 | 6465136 Chupacabra-322
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Finally some good news today in what is a manipulated horror Global Ponzi

By Jennifer Harper - The Washington Times - Updated: 3:22 p.m. on Monday, August 24, 2015

Now ready for citizens concerned their privacy is at stake in an increasing drone-friendly culture: Snake River Shooting Products has just introduced Drone Munition shot shell based defense rounds. “Prepare for the Drone Apocalypse,” the Idaho-based company warns in its first advertising outreach for the new line, which they describe as a “12 gauge 3-inch shot shell solution aimed at defending against drone-based privacy concerns and terror.”

The company is talking about lightweight quad-copters, which can carry cameras and are increasingly making the news when they are misused in neighborhoods, at airports and in public places.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:56 | 6465491 Winston Churchill
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My elephant gun already does just fine.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:46 | 6465699 SolarSystem1932
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I built a HERF gun out of an old microwave. 

The little birdie in the sky got confused. 

Sometimes, now, I miss the little birdie.

Odd that the little birdie and a microwave shared a common detail: 2.4Ghz

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:12 | 6465820 scubapro
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2.4 Ghz, good to know and thx.    

 

can you share dtails?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:12 | 6465166 messymerry
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I'm sure Mr. Ponzi never imagined in his pathetic little life that he would be so famous... 

;-D

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:16 | 6465180 FireBrander
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My administration is working with Congress to address the root cause behind much of the instability in our markets.

Financial assets related to home mortgages have lost value during the house decline, and the banks holding these assets have restricted credit. As a result, our entire economy is in danger.

So I propose that the federal government reduce the risk posed by these troubled assets and supply urgently needed money so banks and other financial institutions can avoid collapse and resume lending.

This rescue effort is not aimed at preserving any individual company or industry. It is aimed at preserving America's overall economy.

George W. Bush September 25, 2008

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!..up until today anyway...


Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:43 | 6465941 Usurious
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wall st got drunk..........

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 22:21 | 6466931 qomolangma
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What a speech! It costed the American tax payers $700 billion.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:24 | 6465283 HungryPorkChop
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@FireBrander : This is way beyond Ponzi......we have entered Rumpelstillskin's world where banks can weave straw into gold except it even gets better than this.  They don't even need the straw, just digital digits made out of thin air. 

Why goof around with straw because it's so 12th Century plus there's a limited amount of straw produced every year.  However, rumor states there is an unlimited amount of "out of thin air" available. 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:01 | 6465091 madcows
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well that's a shitty fortune cookie.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:01 | 6465092 carbonmutant
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No comments from Lockhart on the current market...

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:03 | 6465101 surf0766
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we wait now. One more day like this and Mr. Yellen will announce QE4 and the final nail in the dollar coffin.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:04 | 6465108 eatthebanksters
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I sense a large increase in the supply of Chinese mail order brides, available at greatly reduced prices.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:06 | 6465112 Kaiser Sousa
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CNBS is classic today...

burn mother fuckers....

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:10 | 6465146 Mat Cauthon
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Pisani just said...

"People found value today"

 

 

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain (It's time to toss the dice)

The Daily Economist

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:06 | 6465113 gatorengineer
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Can we PLEASE GET OBOZO to make a statement to reassure the American People?  Nothing would stick a fork in it like that.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:46 | 6465428 AGuy
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"Can we PLEASE GET OBOZO to make a statement to reassure the American People? "

Obviously you missed his press statement released on Sunday evening: "If you like your stock market, you can keep your stock market". It appears his statement had the opposite effect. Probably due to the Obamacare fiasco.

 

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:06 | 6465114 MsCreant
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So the young lady is hooking up the financial situation with the Chemical storage explosions in China?

 

Fire- The Ohio Players

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkDvZ2GlwsM

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:20 | 6465250 Ginsengbull
Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:26 | 6465624 consider me gone
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His singing sucks but I've been a big fan for 40 year+. Best line may be "liking it and loving it; it's all in the plan." Black Juju

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:31 | 6465645 Ginsengbull
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Alice was the king of shock rock while marylin manson and rob zombie were both in diapers.

 

And he's STILL rocking.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:57 | 6466022 mt paul
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saw alice cooper in concert at the Festhall in Frankfort  in 1972

Lsd and heroin were the drugs that show, too high

he hung himself on stage very weird , great show...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:07 | 6465117 Son of Captain Nemo
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Obviously this young Chinese lady didn't have any investments with Shan Jiuliang?...

But I suspect she won't be holding that sign up for much longer as her portfolio has many "Shan Jiuliang"'s running it!

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:07 | 6465119 Mat Cauthon
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T Minus 3 hours until...

FEAR THE PANDA!

 

 

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain (It's time to toss the dice)

The Daily Economist 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:13 | 6465173 fed_depression
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The wealth gap just closed 4% today alone. Wait for 40-90% as the rich and the banks stab each other in the back.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:15 | 6465194 Sudden Debt
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Now 20 morons who predicted it all along will show up on tv

That's what I hate the most

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:34 | 6465351 besnook
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everyone picked it this time. then there are the contrarians like me who say this is a run of the mill downturn. the real reset is still a few years away when the brics financial system is really ready to roll and the dollar collapses. this has only been a test run for when the chinese completely decouple from the dollar rendering it useless therefore worthless.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:02 | 6465771 stocktivity
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more than that

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:15 | 6465196 semperfi
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That's probably China's plan - burn all the paper - create new system with metal - and its working great !

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:05 | 6465535 Gambit
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As much as I would love it to be true, I feel like there is far more sinister plan behind this. 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:23 | 6465277 Clowns on Acid
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going to be a lot of people signing up for Obama phones ...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:24 | 6465286 besnook
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kinda funny to listen to western press make fun of china trying to do their version of the plunge protection team then watch the insanity of the usa markets for the last coupla days.

qeinfinity continues by the end of the week.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:28 | 6465309 Downtoolong
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Would all sell side analysts who recommended buys on AAPL, Facebook, Tesla, Twitter, and Yahoo last month please report to the town square…in Singapore.

 

Don’t worry, everything will be fine.

  

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 16:51 | 6465457 AGuy
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Well, on the bright side, Financial news channels should become entertaining again. I am waiting for the next Jim Cramer temper tantrums to happen. I heard a rumor that CNBC has hired Bagdad Bob as the new morning ancher. Should be fun!

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:08 | 6465543 Farqued Up
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'tis but a scratch. FIGHT FAIR!! FIGHT FAIR!!!

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:08 | 6465550 Stlouiemike
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Fucking thiefs, Charles Schwab!  at 9:43 am with the dow down 1000 pts and I go to sell my 35 s&p 140 dec puts screen showed a bid of 2 bucks a ask of 8 bucks and est proceeds of 6400 bucks cool place the order and the thieving pricks fill it at .73 cents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    lying fucks

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:41 | 6465679 Wahooo
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Limit order

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:06 | 6465788 scubapro
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well into the money spreads get so wide....you gotta call your price.   at least you could place your order.  fidelity wouldnt update and couldnt even place to sell BIS at 38 before i had to go get to appts.  almost 2000 left out there not to mention the buyback in levels...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:19 | 6465595 Berspankme
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I love hearing that fuckface cunt josh Earnest lecturing the chinese on how they should move towards "free" markets. Pot-kettle-black

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:09 | 6465792 dvfco
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Berspankme - 

You got the +1 from me for just putting together the term "FUCKFACE CUNT JOSH EARNEST."

It has a wonderful ring to it, while conveying a broad anger towards the entire Obama regime.

(Actually, you got the +1 when I thought you had only written 'cuntface Josh Earnest.'  When I realized you had done even better work, I wished I could have given you another +1)

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:39 | 6465666 jonytk
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Everything will be freeeee

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:01 | 6466054 mt paul
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on a long enough timeline

every thing is worth nothing ...

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