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"They're Getting Away With Murder": Trump Blasts "Paper-Pushing Hedge Fund Guys" On Taxes

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A couple of weeks ago, Carl Icahn took to Twitter to “accept” Donald Trump’s offer to become Secretary of Treasury should America, in a fit of extreme frustration with business as usual inside the Beltway, do the previously unthinkable and put Trump in The White House. 

According to a series of statements Trump made on Friday at a "pep rally" held at an Alabama football stadium, Icahn would also be in charge of negotiating trade deals with Japan and China in a Trump administration.

"Everyone is killing us" Trump told a crowd estimated at about 20,000, adding that when he was told of China’s move to devalue the yuan he heard a "sucking action."

But lest anyone should think that Trump’s cozy relationship with Uncle Carl means the Teflon Don would go easy on billionaire hedge fund managers, the GOP frontrunner told CBS’ Face The Nation on Sunday that the hedgies are just a bunch of "paper pushers [that] get away with murder" from a tax perspective. Here’s Reuters:

"The hedge fund guys didn't build this country. These are guys that shift paper around and they get lucky," Trump said.

 

"They are energetic. They are very smart. But a lot of them - they are paper-pushers. They make a fortune. They pay no tax. It's ridiculous, ok?"

 

Trump's comments were referring to the so-called "carried interest loophole" - a provision in the tax code which allows private equity and hedge fund managers pay taxes at the capital gains rate instead of the ordinary income rate.

 

Many fund managers are in the top income bracket, but the capital gains tax bracket is only 20 percent.

 

While these individuals are also required to pay an additional 3.8 percent surtax on their net investment income, this total rate is still far lower than the 39.6 percent rate that top wage earners must pay on their ordinary income.

 

"Some of them are friends of mine. Some of them, I couldn't care less about," Trump said.

Trump went on to suggest that he would move to restore America's Middle Class which, as regular readers are no doubt aware, is being eroded by a monetary policy regime bent on inflating the value of the assets most likely to be concentrated in the hands of the wealthy.

"I want to lower the rates for the middle class. The middle class is the one, they're getting absolutely destroyed. This country doesn't have—won't have a middle class very soon," he said. 

But he wasn't done.

Trump then took to Fox & Friends on Monday morning to explain why he doesn't support anything that even looks like a flat tax before suggesting that no matter what she says on the campaign trail, Hillary Clinton can't be trusted to eliminate the carried-interest loophole because when she hangs out in the Hamptons, it's "with the hedge fund guys." Here's WaPo:

"The one problem I have with a flat tax is that rich people are paying the same as people that are making very little money," Trump, who is worth an estimated $2.9 billion, said Monday morning on "Fox & Friends." "I think there should be a graduation of some kind."

 

Clinton said she'd close the loophole, and while Trump didn't mention carried interest specifically, he did say that hedge-fund managers should pay more in taxes.

 

"They should be taxed a fair amount of money," he said, without offering details. "They're not paying enough tax."

 

He later criticized Clinton as being too close to Wall Street.

 

"The hedge-fund guys are the ones that are giving her the money," he said. "When she was in the Hamptons, she was with the hedge-fund guys."

Reading the above, one is left to wonder if Trump is leaving himself open to criticism regarding the consistency of his message. That is, when one is a billionaire and has just endorsed another billionaire (who is perhaps the most recognizable hedge fund manager in the history of capital markets) to be Treasury Secretary, to then turn around and call billionaire hedge fund managers "paper pushers" who "didn't build this country" and consistently "get away with murder" at tax time, might well strike some voters as contradictory or even hypocritical, even if the idea that an unfair tax system is contributing to the demise of the Middle Class turns out to be a message that resonates with large blocks of voters.

If building a platform on an ad hoc basis ultimately proves to be sustainable, then all the better for Trump's chances, but even if he were to run as an independent, it's critical that voters be able to figure out how the pieces fit together. That is, it's not enough to be consistent and emphatic on individual issues (e.g. "I'm tough on immigation" and "I think billionaires should pay more taxes"), Trump will eventually need to figure out how to take his positions on the issues and turn them into a cohesive platform that voters can understand and, perhaps more importantly, that doesn't end up tripping over itself when the debates start getting serious.

If he can do that successfully, then the rest of the field - both Republicans and Democrats alike - may face an uphill battle when it comes to slowing Trump's momentum. 

In the meantime, things seem to still be going well:

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Bonus: Trump's new campaign message for Jeb Bush

Even Barbara Bush agrees with me.

A video posted by Donald J. Trump (@realdonaldtrump) on Aug 24, 2015 at 10:15am PDT

 

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Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:15 | 6465573 blabam
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I'm already done with this guy... who's next?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:28 | 6465636 greenskeeper carl
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Him railing on about chinas move to devalue the yuan is kinda pissing into the wind. If he was as smart as he claims to be, he could look back at history and realize that at no time has a country devaluing its currency like that worked out for the people in that country over the long term. Find me a time in living memory when, again this is over the long term, this has actually benefitted the people of a country. All this does is buy desperate governments more time.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:34 | 6465641 y3maxx
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Sounds Hitler'ish/Nationalist

Blame the Hedge Funds (Jooos)

Trump's blonde hair even looks Aryan.

Prediction...Canada will be the next Poland,

and exterminate all those Mexican aliens.

Correct me if I'm wrong folks

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:13 | 6465669 Pinto Currency
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Hedge funds are coyotes scrounging scraps.

It's the FED that has gotten away with murder.

The St. Louis Fed has admitted the Fed's $4 trillion QE program didn't work - it just juiced their shareholder banks.

Next they'll admit they've just been blowing bubbles for decades to primarily support the shareholder banks of the NY Fed.  It's what they do.

Oh well, too bad. 

 

Collapsing bubbles are all getting real in the real economy.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:33 | 6465905 Bilderberg Member
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Trump's main platform is GLOBALISM is destroying America's quality of life. The Council on Foreign Relations, The UN, The Trilateral Commission are everything Donald Trump is against. These institutions are eager to take away everything we have sacrificed for to create global monopolies and slave workers. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND!

 

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:38 | 6465922 Usurious
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When it comes to Jewish ties, no GOP candidate trumps Trump

 

 

http://www.jta.org/2015/08/07/news-opinion/politics/when-it-comes-to-jew...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:45 | 6465936 Latina Lover
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Trump just got my vote.  

 

I know that voting is essentially worthless, republicans and democrats are two branches of the same tree, and of course Trump has jewish connections.  But given the choice amongst the pathetic alternatives, who would you vote for?

 

BTW, notice how the anti Trump trolls are out in force?  Who in their right mind actually believes that hedge funds create wealth, versus stealing it via insider deals, market manipulation and HFT?  It is one thing to trash a Bill Gates, who at least created a great company and compare him to the hedge fund hyena's who regularly destroy promising companies by naked short of the shares, making it impossible to raise new capital at decent rates.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:58 | 6466561 angel_of_joy
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Trump got my vote ! It might not matter in the great scheme of things, but I just realized that voting for him is the best way to piss off all the establishment (i.e. Republicans AND Democrats). That alone will do...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:42 | 6465934 Latina Lover
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At least Trump is making the presidential reality show interesting. Could you REALLY imagine Hitlery Clinton as Pres.? Do you really want more of the same? To borrow a line, are you better off than you were 6 years ago?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:54 | 6465995 Bilderberg Member
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I'll say this, if we had another 9/11, Oklahoma City, Bhengazi, Seal Team 6 chopper attack...Do you think Trump would try and cover it up or would he go after the truth? Without a doubt he would get to the bottom of the truth and seek justice.

Is Hillary going to do that???? Is Biden going to do that??? Is Jeb going to do that????

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:32 | 6466169 Raging Debate
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I am not telling you who I would vote for but it isn't Donald Trump. I do appreciate the awareness campaign he is running. I want someone that can wage war against the central bank model and he isn't the man to do it.

I haven't heard a candidate yet discussing how to nationalize central banking (and issue our own currency. You nationalize them to add a couple brakes and restore a couple and doing so you have knowledgeable people to help with the transition but no longer power to buy the government.

There is a subtle message I am looking for. I actually like the idea of taxing consumption instead of income with a flat tax. The poor pay little in income tax but are still taxed by inflation. I also don't like the memo "of it's the chinks fault." I do agree with him that Clinton was horrible as Sec of State.

The Chinese knew she was lying through her teeth for years. But just saying Mexicans fuck off, Chinese fuck off does not allow rebalancing that leaves any doors open. Rebalance we must but the fuck off memo isn't appealing to constituencies. It isn't realistic populism. You still have a Congress and Senate to work with. Fuck off as a memo isn't turning me on.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:50 | 6466283 Latina Lover
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This is Trumps strongest point, discussing alternatives, and building awareness of flaws in our financial system.  I am not exactly enamoured with him.   When he is the best of a terrible lot, it highlights the moral bankruptcy of the  electoral system. We could easily have direct voting and dispense with the representatives, who constantly deceive us.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 21:06 | 6466594 TheAntiProgressive
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And who again, owns the FED?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:53 | 6465729 Oldwood
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All income should be taxed the same, preferably not at all. Taxation of business is what lends itself to justifiable (in their minds) influence of those taxation schemes. Get business out of taxes. Tax personal income if you must but to treat business as a taxable entity effectively forces our government to treat them as a person, as we reject taxation without representation. And anyone but a simpleton socialist understands that ALL business expenses will be borne by the consumer, especially taxes. So who are we fooling?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:47 | 6465960 Latina Lover
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American's still believe their economic system is freer than Russia, despite hard core proof to the contrary. 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 21:12 | 6466620 logicalman
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Taxation is just a protection racket, whoever is being taxed.

The system is so wide open to cronyism and criminality, by its very nature, that is should be illegal.

Taxation is a tool of government used against all but the chosen few.

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 23:44 | 6467168 SpankyBeMe
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Corporations are citizens in the U.S. (Have the rights and RESPONSIBILITIES, that is)

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:30 | 6465637 JungleCat
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Jeblary. Or maybe Biden/Warren.

Either way: Oligarchy.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:40 | 6465673 DetectiveStern
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Deez Nuts. 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:31 | 6465639 y3maxx
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Blonde is in

Aryan all the way.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:09 | 6465794 knuppel
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Trump is a TBTF big bank shill, Hedge funds are the only thing left resembling something of a free market anymore,  I'm done with him too, he's still the best candidate running probably from an american citizen pov, but hes a disaster on foreign policy, with no insight into americas own flaws, unless he starts talking more sense soon. He's also trying to create an anti china sentiment that china doesn't deserve.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:39 | 6465929 Tall Tom
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Fucking hypocrite. Trump made bank off of tax breaks.

 

Hopefully it completely, shatteres, collapses, and balkanizes before the 2016 SELECTION.

 

Trump is just another chump.

 

He specializes in Bankruptcy, both moral, and financial.

 

NOBODY CAN SAVE THIS FRAUDULENT AND CORRUPTED SYSTEM.

 

Let fraud and corruption collapse into an ash heap.

 

Burn baby burn.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:48 | 6465973 Latina Lover
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Did you have a bad day in the market?

Agree, the system is fraudulent and corrupt.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 21:28 | 6466706 rambo1028
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Had to reset my password because its been so long since I logged on but had to +1 your comment. Cannot believe so many people believe he is the great white hope...effing joke.

 

Burn baby burn is right....no fixing this. Crazy thing is, it's not like we are just a little off track. This train is already derailed, destroyed, spilled its toxic contents everywhere....and people still seem to believe we are just chugging along. It's like we are living in the twilight zone.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:15 | 6465833 doctor10
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jobs creators-at the small business level-are the ones that should NOT be taxed.

The country is totally dependent upon the jobs they rpovide

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:56 | 6466017 11b40
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Most small businesses are Sub S or LLC's.

All net profits are passed through to shareholders as income.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 21:08 | 6466600 logicalman
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The US is bankrupt.

What's the Donald's bankruptcy count?

Trump for pres, he might be the perfect fit!

;-)

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:15 | 6465575 Relentless101
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There's nothing wrong with hedge funds. If this wasn't bail out nation, there would almost certainly be a lot less of them. Don't hate the player. Hate the rigged game.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:26 | 6465626 FrankieGoesToHo...
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Ethical and moral behavior is not defined by what is legal and what is not.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:28 | 6465634 Relentless101
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No, but incentive always determine economic outcomes. You think people should give up the chance to make billions out of the kindness of their heart? LOL

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:59 | 6465759 Usurious
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parasitism is not a virtue

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:43 | 6465684 Apocalicious
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True, but neither are they defined by technical, arcane, legalistic bullshit. Want to stop creating all these tax game and financial engineering jobs? Then stop writing all the laws that incent them becuase its just creating a big game. And the hedge fund guys are way smarter than the legislators. We need to stop thinking idiotic politicians can codify super granular, legalistic, technical behavior. No, we need a return to simple, principles based stuff that eliminates gaming.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:15 | 6465577 jcaz
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True-  the Silver-spooned flatulent sacks of shit built this country,  right after they almost pissed away Daddy's money....

Not all of us are so gifted as to actually lose money running a casino,  but Don IS special......

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:00 | 6466045 11b40
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Not sure if you could inherit $250 million & turn it into several billion.  Not sure I could, either, but trying would be fun.

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:17 | 6465578 knukles
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Whoda thought that it starts coming down to The Donald and Bernie.... who it seems, have quite a bit in common!
Now, may not be likely they're the anointed ones, but they sure have some fresh ideas v the Establishment.
If Joe the Plumber was an Establishment kind of guy, Biden would already be polling very high, but where is he?  (nevermind)

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 21:15 | 6466639 nmewn
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It is kinda funny that the entire Keynesian statist world starts falling apart when there is talk of Biden throwing his hat in the ring.

It's like:

"OMG! What is Joe going to say next to really fuck it all up!?" 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:16 | 6465579 Teh Finn
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<3 the ad.  Trump is having way too much fun with this.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:16 | 6465583 Spitzer
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Axle Merk said it best today

"The dollar is a risk on trade now"

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:18 | 6465590 SharkBit
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Yes we have had enough Bushs and Clintons and Obamas and Banksters and corrupt politicians and corrupt regulators and Hedge Funds and HFTs.  On and on I'm afraid.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:01 | 6466055 847328_3527
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Even I am ready for a pleasant personality in the First Lady for a change ... just think how foreign leaders will drool when they meet Mrs Trump ...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:19 | 6465596 RopeADope
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It is hard to tax a virtual "financial economy". The minute you make a tax claim against an intangible its value collapses. What Trump should be asking is why should the government allow them to use the United States currency as their own and drive up societal costs of the US in the process.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:21 | 6465600 Jstanley011
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So he's a demagogue after all, searching for a scape goat to feed the public -- the "evil speculators." Fuck you, Trump.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:49 | 6466277 FreeMoney
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Speculation isn't evil on its own.  Its when you get to print trillions of dollars, loan them to yourself, and then speculate while selling it short to make giant profits while Joe six packs savings are destroyed that you become evil.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:23 | 6465607 mademesmile
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The best reason I've heard why Trump is so popular now is that he's the physical representation of scream therapy that was so popular in the '70s.
It's the only thing that makes sense.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:23 | 6465610 buzzsaw99
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the moist evil hedge fund is a tbtf bank holding company which will probably donate heavily to trump's campaign.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:26 | 6465628 Jstanley011
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Exactly.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:56 | 6465742 THE 4th Quadrant
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Exactly. The game goes like this. Bitch, whine, complain, point fingers, just to get elected, but never do a fucking thing about it. They know how it works.

Call me the most evil hedge fund in the world. Guess what?

I get rich from the free advertising.

Trump is a joo!

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:15 | 6466122 Arthur Schopenhauer
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He is not!

He is smart. He just hires short guys that wear yarmulkes all day to handle his money.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:31 | 6465627 Forrest Grump
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I fail to see how this is contradictory or hypocritical. Icahn is a paper pusher that should have had to pay more in taxes, but who would happen to make a good negotiator/Treasury Sec.

one is left to wonder if Trump is leaving himself open to criticism regarding the consistency of his message. That is, when one is a billionaire and has just endorsed another billionaire (who is perhaps the most recognizable hedge fund manager in the history of capital markets) to be Treasury Secretary, to then turn around and call billionaire hedge fund managers "paper pushers" who "didn't build this country" and consistently "get away with murder" at tax time, might well strike some voters as contradictory or even hypocritical,

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:36 | 6465913 WarPony
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"then turn around and call billionaire hedge fund managers "paper pushers" who 'didn't build this country'"

No contradiction, billionaires get a pass, measly millionaire types not so much.  

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:52 | 6465992 exonomic halfbreed
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obviously the Eloi are on a roll.  

i have heard of Black Flag and Roach Motel, but what is the remedy for Inbred Parasites?  Does anyone care to offer their suggestions?  Perhaps surveillance system malfunctions followed by individual actions by self motivated cells.  What would Saul Alinsky suggest in this sort of situation.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:34 | 6465651 Jstanley011
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We've had a national-socialist "messiah" from the Left apply a stun gun to paralyze that political wing into inaction. Now it's time for a national-socialist "messiah" from the Right, to stun that wing into paralysis.

After that everything will be set up to really bring the hammer down. If you don't think these people will run your babies under their tank treads to protect their interests, you would be wrong.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:39 | 6465667 Bobportlandor
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Vote Mr T or vote for the Party boys... decisions, decisions?

Vote Mr T or vote for the Lawyers... decisions, decisions?

Vote Mr T or vote for the Lobbyist... decisions, decisions?

Vote Mr T or vote for the Bankers... decisions, decisions?

 

God I'm so Confused... NOT

It's the ninth inning, down 2 runs, man on first with 2 outs and your #4 batter is coming to the plate, you tell him, it's time to swing for the fence.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:44 | 6465690 bbq on whitehou...
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Theres only one Mr. T and i pitty the fool who dont know that.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:42 | 6465680 foxmuldar
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Many here bashing Obama but then the same probably voted for a community organizer.  Obama's following his mentor Saul Alinsky and is close to achieving all of Alinskys rules. 

http://www.bestofbeck.com/wp/activism/saul-alinskys-12-rules-for-radicals

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:46 | 6465956 Dickweed Wang
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Many here bashing Obama but then the same probably voted for a community organizer.

Yeah and I'll bet ya that none of them have the balls to admit it.  Just like a "progressive".

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:42 | 6465682 loregnum
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Yep, he is so different from the lifetime politicians. Rich guy complaining about rich people paying low taxes, rich guy saying he cares about the middle class, rich guy railing on foreign nations as though they are destroying the country.

Wow Trump, you are just sooooo different from the others.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 17:49 | 6465708 cherry picker
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Making promises, hitting a vibe with potential voters mean nothing if you can't walk the walk, screw the talk.

The system, like the stock market is rigged and those who would make changes are usually killed or made into unichs. Look at Obama, he made people cheer for him too.  In the recession he had a $150 million party celebrating his inauguration. I knew then he was bullshit and did not care for the people or jobs.

If a president can't or won't do as he promised, voters should be able to 'fire' him right away, none of this nonsense where they keep him or her on till people forget the broken promises and vote for another term.

The white power thing, the homeless man getting urinated on and beaten and the first comment out of Trump's mouth was the attackers were passionate about illegal immigration, other small statements here and there lead me not to trust the Donald.  I think he may be another Obama in white skin.

 

 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:44 | 6465951 Clowns on Acid
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Indeed you are cherry picking .... trump NEVER said that the attackers were passionate about illegal immigration. YOU LIE !

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:03 | 6465772 falak pema
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hahaha, killer instinct Donald who puts his money in HFs and wants to name a HF manager to Treasury...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:03 | 6465775 kchrisc
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Trump is a false-candidate. His mandate is to introduce the American people to the coming neocons' agenda and platform.

One agenda is an Article V Constitutional convention for gutting the Constitution. And in the past week he has been stumping for changing the 14th. Now Cruz is playing the other side--"good cop, bad cop."

Now Trump is pushing a "not fair share" tax platform. Not that I like hedge funds. The next thing will be a push for a balanced-budget amendment.

Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:11 | 6465807 MedTechEntrepreneur
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Layoff the "Zion" crap...you are making yourself out to be a fool and a jackass.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:05 | 6465786 CheapBastard
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The stawk market closed up so everything must be awesome.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:07 | 6465789 BurningBetty
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I know what this is all about...why the Zion scum will let Trump win, and they will. The world and the finances have completely collapsed. They've painted themselves straight into a corner. People aren't buying into the foreign policies any more, wars and invasions. It's really just a matter of time before the whole thing is exposed as being a huge shitshow.

Enter Trump. Pisses on everything that the rich do, how he will get America back on its feet, the Middle Class, re-egnite the relationships with China and other big economies, rebuild the industry, close of the borders for rampant immigration. Pretty much everything that has been opposite for the last decade! 

So, Trump will make his move and attempt to rebuild America, which he will get 8 years of prime time for. Once that is done, Zionists will figure out that prosperity has prospered long enough and they will jam their d*** up peoples asses again.

Am I far off? Or is this just wishful thinking? 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:18 | 6465852 Full Nelson
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He'll build what he knows how to build: casinos, luxury hotels and golf courses.  Regular old Joe 6-pack with a red baseball cap kinda stuff. He's a business genius.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:40 | 6465933 Arthur Schopenhauer
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But there would be spinoff businesses, such as hotdog and hamburger stands.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:14 | 6465824 Full Nelson
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I'm still confused about the wall and how "Mexico is gonna pay for it."

Someone else is gonna pay for something being promised.

Isn't that how Dems stump?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:50 | 6466281 Clowns on Acid
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Think out of the box... there is more tha one way to skin a cat. 

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:11 | 6466381 Duc888
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Full nelson: I'm still confused about the wall and how "Mexico is gonna pay for it."

 

Easy 20% taxaroonie on the Western Union and Xoom remittances from USSA back to MESSICO.

 

Bang.

 

Wall paid for in 3 months.


Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:16 | 6465834 dot_bust
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"The hedge fund guys didn't build this country. These are guys that shift paper around and they get lucky," Trump said.

Gee, thanks, Captain Obvious.

Trump works for Hillary Clinton. His entire purpose for running for president is to act as a spoiler who will fuck up the Republican Party.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:37 | 6465914 Teh Finn
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That explains why Trump has compared Hitlery to Petraeus several times.  right?

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:17 | 6465847 breakyoself
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The man of great integrity, Anthony Scaramucci, was very pissed at Trump this morning. He basically challenged him to a duel to the death.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:38 | 6465921 drendebe10
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Einstein said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over then expecting a different result.

The sheeple and idiots have been electing and reeleccting over and over the corrupt career politician miedras over and over and look where the U.S. is today.... 

So bash away the noncareer politician candidates who are at the very least are speaking out about all the bullshit the elected career politician turds have inflicted on tax paying U.S. citizens and then go ahead and reelect those fukn career politician turds.... yep that will fix things for sure.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:40 | 6465930 california chrome
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Carl Icahn ? @Carl_C_Icahn

1/3 After last night’s debate I decided to accept @realDonaldTrump offer for Secretary of Treasury.

 

violently ill...barf barf barf.

 

Dear President Trump -- I met you once when we sat next to eachother at an EF Hutton dinner.

Had all the respect for you then and support you now.  But there are wonderful choices

for Secretary of Treasury.  Think big and out of the box. CONSIDER PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS!

Someone not only with negotiating prowess but more importantly -- integrity and intelligence.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:48 | 6466271 Clowns on Acid
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Nobody listens when EF Hutton speaks anymore...

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 18:49 | 6465980 BeaverCream
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Silent majority...cmon trump just say white people.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:03 | 6466061 847328_3527
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Honkey, to you.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 20:46 | 6466503 Clowns on Acid
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White poeple and other people that want to act white.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:45 | 6466256 Not if_ But When
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Hillary has been hobnobbing at a $100K vacation gig in the Hamptons with the family's best buddies.  And remember Chelsea is married to a hedge fund manager.  That cobweb cunt has no decency.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:47 | 6466265 Irving Phelps
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I know it's your website but try to be just a little inconspicuous about your hate for Trump!

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 19:52 | 6466294 Full Nelson
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Boy, I sure HOPE one man can single-handedly CHANGE everything for the people.

No cult of personality here.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 21:07 | 6466598 Zoomorph
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Hitler was a great leader. America would be lucky to get a leader who actually cared about the country and its people rather than himself, his friends, and the banks.

Mon, 08/24/2015 - 23:50 | 6467190 SpankyBeMe
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What we need is a leader who knows how to recruit talent, set an agenda, knows when to hold 'em and likewise to fold 'em, and LEAD, LEAD, LEAD. That man is Trump. The rest are a bunch of political hacks and wussies.

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