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Government Spying “Worse than Orwell”

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The United Nations privacy chief says that government spying is “worse than Orwell”.

He’s right …

The editor of the Guardian newspaper said:

Orwell could never have imagined anything as complete as this, this concept of scooping up everything all the time.

Edward Snowden said in 2013 that NSA spying was worse than in Orwell’s book 1984.

Swedish Pirate Party founder Rick Falkvinge writes:

We are already far, far past the point of Stasi or “1984”.

And Bill Binney – the highest-level NSA whistleblower ever, the senior technical director within the agency who managed thousands of NSA employees and created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information – told Washington’s Blog:

Current surveillance is far beyond an Orwellian state.

 

 

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Wed, 08/26/2015 - 09:54 | 6472625 Reaper
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The people ought fear government lies about its spying. What is truth? Are we to trust spies? Is government to trust spies?

The sheeple crave protection. Their masters oblige with real and virtual cages. I doubt; therefor I think. Government doubts; therefor it fears.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:10 | 6470759 silverer
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It's a good thing this stuff wasn't happening when Orwell was writing.  He might have decided not to publish...

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 18:06 | 6470334 SMC
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Please consider adding something like the following to your email signature:

WARNING:  You are participating in electronic communication at your own risk.  The National Security Agency in collaboration with other government agencies and private enterprises are recording, analyzing and storing your communications.  Constitutionally aware patriots who regret assisting in the creation and operation of these data collection programs have raised their voices to warn that this information is used by various government agencies to achieve political objectives.  In addition, information retained from your digital communications may be provided to foreign governments and/or private companies without your knowledge by various federal agencies.  The result may be termination of employment, coercion, indefinite detention or execution.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 16:36 | 6469911 NorthernPike
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George, Thank you for the large body of work you have posted on ZH.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 16:03 | 6469625 NorthernPike
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Not to hard to spy, 90% + confess all their sins on Facebook and other social media. The other 10% are Luddites and dont matter.

Mr Luddite

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 15:13 | 6469361 large_wooden_badger
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They will know who your favorite porn stars are

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:58 | 6470706 ParaZite
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Anne Howe, Amai Liu, Amia Miley, oh shit... some poor agent is going to have to take at least 25 years to fap to all the porn I've seen...
I guess you're welcome NSA? Just don't get carpal tunnel.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 15:33 | 6469455 Skateboarder
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Nuh-uh, I delete my history after I'm done lol.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 17:11 | 6470118 RaceToTheBottom
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Better yet, create a fictional user and login everywhere as that person.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 16:36 | 6469912 large_wooden_badger
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C'mon that's just so your wife and kids don't find out what you've been looking at

BTW, you forgot the "/s" LOL

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 15:12 | 6469358 large_wooden_badger
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Your cable box, roku, apple tv, amazon fire, chromecast, easy pickings

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 15:11 | 6469355 large_wooden_badger
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Your home network or broadband provider, like sitting ducks

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 16:11 | 6469666 tc06rtw
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You can just ignore it (like the National Debt):
 
       It doesn’t really matter ’cause
         we’re  spying  on  ourselves!
   

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 16:13 | 6469716 George Washington
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The NSA is giving the raw data on American citizens living in the U.S. to Israel

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:30 | 6470603 mkucstars
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Can't they just search for their own porn?

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 13:52 | 6469114 VWAndy
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Your computer systems?

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 13:47 | 6469097 VWAndy
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They could mess with your car.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 15:26 | 6469412 large_wooden_badger
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Perhaps if it's running a Controller Area Network (CAN) protocol onboard the car's computer, I think they started around the year 2000, not sure exactly when, but I would guess most cars prior to 1996 (pre OBD-II) should be safe from remote hacking. I know one exception is the 1995 Lincoln Town Car, it had OBD-II before it was required by law, probably Ford up-equipping their luxury badges first to work the bugs out.

But I suspect a small localized EMP blast would render any vehicle inoperable once the EMP field flux collapsed all over the coils, alternator/voltage regulator, etc. It's the same principle in play when the diode fails on your AC clutch harness, the collapsing field will spike the in-vehicle electronics and there's a good chance something will get fried. Diodes are important things.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 13:46 | 6469093 VWAndy
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Lets make a list of things they might be up to?

 They could mess with your phone traffic.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 15:11 | 6469353 J Jason Djfmam
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They could create a virtual you. He could break all kinds of laws.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 13:26 | 6469009 VWAndy
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The list of things they could do is scary. Think about it.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 13:26 | 6469006 Griphook
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But since I browse the web using Chrome's Incognito Window I'm good right?  Nobody can track me.

 

Sheesh, online security is sooooo simple.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 16:22 | 6469809 jbar
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You're a fucking imbeccile. Everytime you get on the net you're assigned an ip address by your service provider and they log every click and website you visit. They can see every porn movie you watch, everything! When I worked for an ISP the cops were always coming in demanding those log files but we refused. They never brought search warrants, just figured we'd cave to them. Today, they (NSA) automatically get that data off the pipelines. EVERYTHING YOU DO CAN BE TRACED BACK TO YOU AND YOUR UNIQUELY IDENTIFIED DEVICE. Get it now? You're welcome.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:42 | 6470897 Spiritof42
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"They can see every porn movie you watch, everything!"

Then we should watch more porn to keep them distracted.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 18:33 | 6470409 Bay Area Guy
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I believe he forgot the sarcasm tag.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 13:25 | 6469003 VWAndy
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I suspect they are way into dirty tricks now days.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 15:20 | 6469387 KnuckleDragger-X
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All countries spy on each other and bitch about other countries spying on them, thats the way the game is played. Now though, most spying is done on their own people for no other reason than they don't trust them to follow government orders. I remember the old USSR and how everybody thought it was an evil thing, but now they do it to protect us from "terrorists" though 99.999% of their effort is spent on watching the innocent. Orwell was an optimist.....

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 17:48 | 6470278 Baa baa
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But I don't want to disappear! At least not unless I do it myself.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 15:30 | 6469428 Luc X. Ifer
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