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New UN Privacy Chief Proclaims – UK Digital Surveillance Is "Worse Than Orwell"

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

Cannataci says we are dealing with a world even worse that anything Orwell could have foreseen. “It’s worse,” he said. “Because if you look at CCTV alone, at least Winston was able to go out in the countryside and go under a tree and expect there wouldn’t be any screen, as it was called. Whereas today there are many parts of the English countryside where there are more cameras than George Orwell could ever have imagined. So the situation in some cases is far worse already.

 

– UN Privacy chief, Joseph Cannataci

The UN special rapporteur on privacy, Joseph Cannataci, pulls no punches when it comes to privacy. It’s hard to disagree with what he has to say.

From the Guardian:

The first UN privacy chief has said the world needs a Geneva convention style law for the internet to safeguard data and combat the threat of massive clandestine digital surveillance.

Speaking to the Guardian weeks after his appointment as the UN special rapporteur on privacy, Joseph Cannataci described British surveillance oversight as being “a joke”, and said the situation is worse than anything George Orwell could have foreseen.

 

He added that he doesn’t use Facebook or Twitter, and said it was regrettable that vast numbers of people sign away their digital rights without thinking about it.

 

One thing that is certainly going to come up in my mandate is the business model that large corporations are using

 

“Some people were complaining because they couldn’t find me on Facebook. They couldn’t find me on Twitter. But since I believe in privacy, I’ve never felt the need for it,” Cannataci, a professor of technology law at University of Groningen in the Netherlands and head of the department of Information Policy & Governance at the University of Malta, said.

 

Appointed after concern about surveillance and privacy following the Edward Snowden revelations, Cannataci agreed that his notion of a new universal law on surveillance could embarrass those who may not sign up to it. “Some people may not want to buy into it,” he acknowledged. “But you know, if one takes the attitude that some countries will not play ball, then, for example, the chemical weapons agreement would never have come about.”

 

Cannataci came into his new post in July after a controversial spat involving the first-choice candidate, Katrin Nyman-Metcalf, who the Germans in particular thought might not be tough enough on the Americans.

 

But for Cannataci – well-known for having a mind of his own – it is not America but Britain that he singles out as having the weakest oversight in the western world: “That is precisely one of the problems we have to tackle. That if your oversight mechanism’s a joke, and a rather bad joke at its citizens’ expense, for how long can you laugh it off as a joke?”

 

However, Cannataci says we are dealing with a world even worse that anything Orwell could have foreseen. “It’s worse,” he said. “Because if you look at CCTV alone, at least Winston [Winston Smith in Orwell’s novel 1984] was able to go out in the countryside and go under a tree and expect there wouldn’t be any screen, as it was called. Whereas today there are many parts of the English countryside where there are more cameras than George Orwell could ever have imagined. So the situation in some cases is far worse already.

 

“The way we handle it is going to be the difference. But Orwell foresaw a technology that was controlling. In our case we are looking at a technology that is ever-developing, and ever-developing possibly more sinister capabilities.” Because of this, the Snowden revelations were very important, he said.

 

“We have a number of corporations that have set up a business model that is bringing in hundreds of thousands of millions of euros and dollars every year and they didn’t ask anybody’s permission. They didn’t go out and say: ‘Oh, we’d like to have a licensing law.’ No, they just went out and created a model where people’s data has become the new currency. And unfortunately, the vast bulk of people sign their rights away without knowing or thinking too much about it,” he said. 

Now that we’ve got that out of the way…

Yes, the UK is particularly bad when it comes to privacy, as has been noted on many occasions. See:

Top Computer Security Expert Warns – David Cameron’s Plan to Ban Encryption Would “Destroy the Internet”

The Mindset of UK Prime Minister David Cameron – It’s Not Enough to Follow the Law, You Must Love Big Brother

Britain’s “War on Terror” Insanity Continues – David Cameron Declares War on Encryption

“Minority Report”-esque Big Brother Billboards are Coming to England

Press Rebellion in the UK – British Media Launches Protest Against Spying, as GCHQ Places Investigative Journalism in Same Category as Terrorism

 

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Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:31 | 6470610 Soul Glow
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We don't need privacy when stawks are going to make us all rich.

:)

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:38 | 6470636 SSRI Junkie
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true, but the un can still go fuck themselves along with the president, the congress and all the bureaucracies

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:43 | 6470652 Cognitive Dissonance
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UK Digital Surveillance Is "Worse Than Orwell"

Reality is always more frightening than fiction.

Always.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:46 | 6470666 Santini Air
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We need to work around this... encrypt everything, teh entire itnernet as Kim Dotcom wants to do.  We need to forget legal processes (because tehy own and control all those) and focus on technical solutions to make surveillance a non-issue.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:48 | 6470673 markmotive
Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:51 | 6470681 OC Sure
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UN Privacy Chief? 

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 21:08 | 6471013 Goldilocks
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(FOAD Joseph Cannataci) oxymoron!

UN Confiscates Your Guns World Wide !!!
https://2012patriot.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/un-takes-your-guns-of-the-w...

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 21:58 | 6471188 Recidivism
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Google - US

Apple - US

Microsoft - US

Facebook - US

Twitter - US

NSA - US

GCHQ - UK

LinkedIn -US

WhatsApp - US

Blame the Brits - Malta

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:51 | 6470680 Santini Air
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Maybe tehy need all those cameras to combat "knife culture"?  Seriously... libtard stupidity never ends!:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpbbpOmw4CE

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:11 | 6470762 Urban Redneck
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I blame the war mongering wanker conservative statists under John Major and the Iron Lady (as opposed to the war mongering wanker libtard statists) for their statist reaction to the Irish troubles (Ring of Steel), soon mimicked by wanker conservative statist Rudy Giuliani in the USSA, and expanded by war mongering wanker libtard statist Tony Blair at home.

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 02:23 | 6471723 TeaClipper
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I logged in just to downvote you, as you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. I am assuming the redneck in your name is no joke

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 08:00 | 6471948 Urban Redneck
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Having lived variously in Belgravia, Knightbridge and Chelsea over the last 25 years, I know exactly what I'm talking about.  Fear by sheeple is blended with nationalism and jingoism by the politicians... and the police state expands.  In both the UK and the US- the instigators are conservatives, the liberals merely build upon the foundation handed to them by the faux opposition, whether its Bushy and his war on "terror" or Nixon and his war on "drugs" -- conservatards make great meat puppets for fascists.  

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 21:21 | 6471068 Teh Finn
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"Encrypt?"  Is that when you put a funny saying in block letters over a photo in your instagram stream?

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:18 | 6470790 Spiritof42
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"Reality is always more frightening than fiction."

 

It took me a very long time to come to that conclusion. Only because I embraced reality for as long as I can remember. I didn't understand it when I was young, but I knew it was where I wanted to go. I chalk it up to physiological differences. Just like small minorities have the capability to play professional footbal, sing like Sarah Brighton, run the mile in four seconds, small minorities have the capability to train themselves to think rationally.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:45 | 6470654 giovanni_f
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Oh my ghawd, you mean UN is just a waste of tax payer money? Ok - that means I am not alone.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:46 | 6470668 Global Douche
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But...but..... But.. I thought stawks were those skinny, awful birds which bring babies to awaiting, loving parents. In Obama's case, stawks bring Dreamers. They're more numerous than tribbles now, and a decent number just as pregnant too (Case in point, Spock stated tribbles are born pregnant. Aren't many of these illegals if female are muy embarazada and ready to report to the nearest border town ER?)

Trump is right. Savage has been right for years now. Something MUST be done or we no longer have a country to reclaim.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:41 | 6470649 medium giraffe
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Fucking Tory gulag.  Makes me sick.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:43 | 6470655 Thick Willy
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The English are disgusting people and they deserve everything that is happening to them.  The Paki rape gangs raping their children.  The surveillance based police state.  The flood of non-whites turning their country into a savage shithole that even the Chinese don't want to visit.

All of it.  Literally billions around the world are looking at England and laughing today.  Billions.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:53 | 6470687 giovanni_f
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England has been in the business of destruction like no other country on this planet, ever, except the US. At same point this limited-by-nothing violence had to turn inside. US and UK will liook like Ukraine before long.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:12 | 6470767 smacker
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DUH:

You begin with "The English are disgusting people..." and then go on to criticise a range of people who are not English.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:45 | 6470661 g speed
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oh yeah -a UN privacy chief reporter talking about needing more privacy??   Stop writing BS Joe and publish a new "Anarchist Cookbook" in fifty languages.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:00 | 6470703 apberusdisvet
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IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTROL

 

In the not too distant future, when the carbon scam re global warming, or climate change, meets too much resistance, the next big thing for tax theft will be digital implants in your sex organs, and you will be charged a fee for every stroke or insertion, wherever.  Women will get a pass under the new Bill of Orgasmic Rights.  Who knew that Bruce Jenner had such vision?

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 19:59 | 6470709 blindman
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people want much more exposure, not less.
get it? do you comprehend that?
it is the essential cultural element, that
exposure, that seminal voice; amplitude,
volume and timbre. people want moar, not less.
surveillance is good, it provides an alternate
short cut for the "voice". privacy is for
mutant "dead enders" as donald rumsfeld coined.
.
cave dwellers, man. if you want privacy go
ahead and think for yourself. if you choose to
express something, go ahead and see what happens.
i can tell you what happens. no one gives a shit.
this , i have learned. it is hilarious and
an environment filled with fun and games,
just go in peace i say.
anyway ^...

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 21:20 | 6471061 blindman
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3lH_Tevw5o
Chris Thile - Bach: Sonata No. 1 in G Minor, BWV 1001 (Complete)
.
you still don't get it? try this.
.
Mo'Ne Davis highlights, Little League World Series Day 4, Philadelphia, Pa vs Pearland, Tx 8/17/14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-DNipr_6zE
.
no? find help with another human being
if you can find one.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 21:38 | 6471156 blindman
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has anyone given any thought to what is
behind, the impetus, broadcasting(money system
dictated structure and associated dogma) , public
address and such proclamations? is any of it
worth consideration? has the topic extinguished
itself, are we lost in ourselves at a place
beyond all the semantic mainstream bullshit?
.
hope?
.
last read, first written, what is a bible?
.
crazy, someday soon coming.
oh man. anyway ^...

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:01 | 6470719 Spiritof42
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There is a positive side to all this data collection. It's so massive as to be practically useless. There is nothing to be gained by spying on our personal lives. I think they are more interested in looking for hidden sources of money. Oh sure, they'll get lucky once in a while. But what they aren't counting on is for people to adjust their finances so they can't be tracked. And judging by what we've been seeing lately, financial losses are looking to be so massive, the wealthy won't have any money to hide.

It typifies the kind of stupidity and incompetence we've come to expect from government bureaucrats. 

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:21 | 6470803 willwork4food
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I gave you an up because you are right on a couple points: It's so massive as to be useless. And yes it is about finances -to a point-but more about CONTROL.

That said you are dead wrong that they are stupid & incompetent.They have the best minds money can buy working for them and as they say "there are no accidents in poliitics".

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 22:31 | 6471319 Spiritof42
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I would argue that the more vicious and oppresive they get, the faster they'll turn this sheepish public of ours against them. I wish there didn't have to be so much destruction before they lose control of the public, but that's the usual course of events. High IQ doesn't mean rational. I stand by my assertion that they are stupid & incompetent. Whatever they do and have done only make matters worse for them.

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 01:22 | 6471663 JustUsChickensHere
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The problem is that they are 'stupid' only in the broader sense. They are very competent at strangling slowly the golden goose.

With luck, I will be dead before the goose dies.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:48 | 6470921 rwe2late
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 useless?

rethink that.

It is USEFUL in the self-censorship and fear created in everyone just knowing they are being watched and recorded,

and knowing that recorded information can be recalled to single out for persecution/prosecution any one, or any organization, at any time.

 

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 21:14 | 6471039 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Take a look at Edwin Black's book on IBM and the WWII camps - ever wonder what those tattooed numbers related to? Not all about the Jews it's about info and how it is used

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 23:25 | 6471467 Hongcha
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The gatherers have been, always meant to and always will sell it to whomever has the money.  Matters not to whom.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:05 | 6470734 q99x2
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Once the fascists begin to fall the UN can become an asset.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:24 | 6470816 VWAndy
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Once a spook always a spook. Nice how they come out and simply say Its worse. But leave out any usefull info? Like the data content they are looking for. Or any of the slimeball stunts they pulled on people. Or what people are they really going after. Everybody is not a valid answer its more smoke. Scare tactics.

 Mr Binny and Eddy boy put up or shut up. I been reading all the crap these guys keep spitting out. Most if not all of it was known by anyone awake. So boys what demographic?

 You know what they say? If ya find yourself looking around tryin to figer out who the sucker is. Its you.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:46 | 6470908 SmedleyButlersGhost
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No shite Why can't we get this kind of hidden camera action in Brazil or Sweden Nothing against pasty white women

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:47 | 6470914 kchrisc
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Here are the three things to keep in mind about governmnet surveillance:

1) Only a criminal government need spy on the people.

2) Cameras in particular, and surveillance generally, are fragile systems that are easily disabled, and even broken. When the people are finally stirred, surveillance systems, especially all government, and private cooperating, cameras shall, and will, be destroyed.

3) The so-called Information Age is really the age of interconnected databases. Destroy the databases, and/or destroy the communication links between databases, and those dependent upon the databases will be rendered less potent.

Zion is a scheme, not and ethnicity.

 

Tyranny' Paradox and the Tyranny Cycle:
Tyranny's Paradox is that tyranny depends upon the production of their victims to sustain themselves. There is logistical cycle imbedded in this paradox, the Tyranny Cycle: Information and plunder flow up, power and control flow down. Hinder and/or break the cycle, and tyranny is weakened.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:55 | 6470953 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Actually makes you rethink an emp or cme

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 21:08 | 6471014 Charming Anarchist
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I am not sure I could tell the difference between fake emp/cme and real ones. 

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 21:19 | 6471056 SmedleyButlersGhost
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I'm guessing we can't post about the real ones

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 08:25 | 6472135 detached.amusement
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stereo spacecraft will give us advanced warning of a CME.

only tribe members will be given advanced warning when an EMP goes off.

 

so the litmus is, did you know about it before it happened?

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 20:59 | 6470973 Teh Finn
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Under the spreading chestnut tree I sold you and you sold me - Winston
Tue, 08/25/2015 - 21:41 | 6471169 Chosenpeople
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You can't shit in England without some damn camera recording it.  They have cameras everywhere.  No wonder there are so many perverts there.

Tue, 08/25/2015 - 21:53 | 6471211 CHC
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As if the United States is any better.  Yeah right.

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 01:07 | 6471641 onmail
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The poodle of America keeps an eye on all of its fleas here & there.

And sometimes barks & bites at people like Julian Assange.

What a shame (un)Great Britain.

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 05:19 | 6471867 danster82
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Its more extreme than even that. We are not far off from live streaming satalite video all being continouysly archieved.

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 05:28 | 6471873 BritBob
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Interestingly, Edward Snowdon revealed that the UK was spying on Argentine and her Malvinas aspirations. Easy to dupe a population with misinformation and propaganda to create a sovereignty claim but when hard facts are considered the truth comes through: https://www.academia.edu/10490336/Argentinas_Illegitimate_Sovereignty_Claims

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 08:27 | 6472143 detached.amusement
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if there were no natural resources there, england wouldnt give two shits about keeping the place

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 11:15 | 6473104 BritBob
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Hans Corell, the Under Secretary-General for Legal Affairs, the legal counsel for the UN in his letter of 12 February 2002 addressed questions raised by the Security Council on the legality of actions taken by Moroccan authorities exploring mineral resources in Western Sahara. Corell confirmed that mineral resource activities in a Non-Self-Governing territory carried out by an administering power are illegal if conducted in disregard of the needs and interests of the people of that territory. In this respect, the natural resources of the Falkland Islands and surrounding maritime areas belong exclusively to the Falkland Islanders.

 

 

 

 

 

Wed, 08/26/2015 - 13:28 | 6473729 much obliged
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Quote: "....we are dealing with a world even worse that anything Orwell could have foreseen. “It’s worse,” he said. “Because if you look at CCTV alone, at least Winston [Winston Smith in Orwell’s novel 1984] was able to go out in the countryside and go under a tree and expect there wouldn’t be any screen, as it was called."

The novel was actually titled "Nineteen Eighty Four". "1984" was the title of the television movie version that came out shortly after. Having seen the movie and assuming that the movie followed the novel, the "screen" was more than a Closed Circuit Television camera. Rather an interactive device situated within each home where the occupant entering had to stand before the screen, state name and hold out an identity card. Britain's surveillance cameras can't be much different than what you'd experience at most bank ATM outlets unless you have a private security firm with monitors on your property that could be tapped by a central authority. If you've ever spent a few days in London, U.K. lately, and read of what to expect about CCTV before you arrive, that images aren't used in court, you'd find that the cameras are invisible even when watching for them.

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