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Refugees Expose Europe's Lack Of Decency
Submitted by Raul Ilargi Meijer via The Automatic Earth blog,
I want to say something about the issue of the refugees -never ever again migrants- that are swamping Europe. So much has been said about them, and so much has happened since I made my first notes, but not a soul has put their finger on the sore spot, and the real story. At least not that I’ve seen.
That real story is the painfully woefully inadequate -and I’m being painfully polite here- failure of Brussels and Berlin and Paris in responding to what’s been unfolding. And don’t get me started about London; there’s nothing coming from Britain these days that’s even worth talking about. When you dare talk about a ‘swarm of migrants’, you’re no longer part of the conversation.
And it’s not as if what Europe has perpetrated upon the Greek economy, and the Greek people who depend on it, isn’t enough. It is more than enough. Only, nobody seems to be willing to understand this, to let it sink in to its fullest. But that’s still kind of alright; financial policies are not the EUs biggest failure.
Even if even Varoufakis insists on being part of the EU -albeit a reformed one-. You can’t reform the EU. It’s allergic to any reform that would take even just a few of its powers away. That is embedded in its model. Varoufakis doesn’t sufficiently get this: you can’t any longer just change a few puppets in Brussels. Its alleged democracy is no longer anything but thin and peeling veneer.
It’s like the old Groucho joke, that he wouldn’t want to be part on any club that would have him as a member. It’s exactly that, actually. If you want to survive in Europe, let alone with dignity and values, it cannot be done inside the EU. And the refugee crisis tells us why, even more than the Greek crisis has.
What Brussels lacks most of all is morals, decency and compassion. It is a bureaucracy that has no human values. And this is expressed, in a painful and deadly way, not only in the streets of Athens, though it’s plenty glaringly clear there too, but even more in how the so-called Union “deals with” (that is, it doesn’t) the Mediterranean refugee issue.
We can take a philosophical approach to this, which can be interesting, though it doesn’t change a thing. We can for instance theorize about how a country, a society, a culture, that is hundreds or thousands of years old, and has gone through numerous natural and man-made disasters in its history, like so many in Europe, will have a response formulated for the next batch of mayhem, and on how to deal with those who are the victims of said mayhem.
That is what we see in how Italy and Greece have been trying to deal with the flood of refugees sailing off from Lybia and Turkey towards their shores. Both countries – or at least substantial segments of them – have gone out of their way to save refugees. Then late last year the EU -ostensibly- took over. But the EU has done next to nothing. It has paid lip service only. Which has cost thousands of human lives this year alone. And still nothing happens.
Now, now, some of them are waking up. The EU agency that is supposed to deal with it, Frontex, has announced it’s going to step up efforts to halt refugees from entering Europe. Just like it did when it took over from Italy and Greece, and the main idea was to send in the military to blow up the boats of the ugly and evil people smugglers.
Hungary is building a wall. Macedonia fired tear gas and stun grenades. The Czechs have said they’re going to send in the army. Police dogs and batons have become a common sight wherever the refugees are. Who are forced to walk a thousand miles or more, children and women and everyone. It’s a picture of disgrace. And the disgrace belongs to all of us.
EC head Juncker, after breaking a months long silence on the topic, declared this week that there’s no need for an Immigration Summit. All EU countries need to do is comply with existing regulations. Which, if I may remind you, were ‘agreed’ upon in a time when there was no such thing as the present influx of people.
What Europe should do, or rather should have done, because I guarantee you it’s too late now, is send as many people as needed to make sure people would stop drowning. To make sure the media would stop using the term ‘migrants’. To show Europe cares, and it alleged leaders first of all. To make sure there would be space and provisions for all who undertook the perilous journey, women, children, men, every single one.
Europe instead has only tried to ignore the issue, hoping it would go away by itself. This has cost at least 17,000 lives so far. And they know it. Here is a picture of a 100-meter list of 17,306 migrants who have died attempting to reach Europe, a list which was recently unveiled at the EU Parliament:
They know, and they’ve known for a long time. But still the UN said this week that Greece should do more. Greece? And Juncker says a summit is not needed. Juncker is supposed to be one of the main leaders of Europe. If we didn’t already know before, we now know for sure he’s no leader. Merkel? Haven’t seen her until this week when she said the situation is unworthy of Europe. But if anything, it’s unworthy of Merkel. She’s supposed to be a leader in Europe, and she’s very obviously not.
There’s a huge amount of people in Brussels and various European capitals who are posing as ‘leaders’, and all of them have fallen way short. All of them, Merkel, first, need to shut up and act now. Not tell other nations, or her own co-Germans, that they should be ashamed. Merkel should be ashamed of herself first. And we know that there are elections coming up, but we’re talking about human lives here, for sweet Jesus’s sake. What’s wrong with you, Angela, and all those like you? What part of you guys is even human anymore? Is only your ego left?
The EU, unlike Greece and Italy, has no history, no society, and above all no culture. The way it reacts to the refugee issue tells its entire empty story. All of it. Brussels doesn’t do anything at all in the face of thousands of people drowning. It waits for Greece to deal with the problem, which is obviously far too great for the Greeks to solve by themselves. And besides, the EU a year ago insisted on taking over rescue operations from Rome and Athens. This has brought about a strange and eery and deadly kind of Mexican stand-off.
The EU has already failed, dramatically and irreparably, in this regard. The only help refugees get is from Italy, Greece and private parties. It’s so bad that if Greece would take “full care” of the refugees entering the country -and that’s assuming it could-, there’d be even much less hope of Brussels ever lifting a finger.
In this fashion, the EU doesn’t just leave the refugees to their fate, it uses them as bait, as hostages, in its fight over financial and political power with Alexis Tsipras and the Syriza government. And though of course multiple voices try to lay the blame on Tsipras, that’s not where it belongs. Even if he could, he couldn’t. The only solution is for Greece to get out of the EU(ro) and restore dignity and humanity within its own borders.
For make no mistake, if you elect to remain part of the EU, and you let Juncker and Merkel speak in your name, then the blood of all those needlessly lost lives is also on your hands. That goes for every European citizen as much as it goes for the hapless heartless leaders they have elected.
For one thing, I can’t for the life of me understand why there are not thousands of young Dutch and German and British and French people, organized and all, in Athens, and on the Greek islands. While there are plenty of them there to get a bloody suntan on their “well-deserved vacation” while people are perishing within eyesight, and complain about their holidays being spoiled. Not all of them, I know, but c’mon, get a life! There are people dying every single day, and just because your so-called leaders let them drown doesn’t mean you should too.
Do you even know what “a life” is anymore, either yours or that of someone else? Have you ever known? A life means caring about other people. A life is not trying to make sure your own ass can sit as pretty as it can.
As for finding a solution to the refugee issue, Europe has done nothing to find one. The EU still wants the problem to just go away, and it wants the refugees to just go away. But it won’t and they won’t.
Yes, we have a mass migration on our hands. And these are invariably hard to deal with. But our first priority should always be to approach the people involved with decency and compassion. And that is not happening. We are approaching them with the opposite of decency. With stun grenades and police dogs. And with misleading terminology such as ‘migrants’.
The EU doesn’t seem to have any idea what’s causing the wave of refugees entering ‘its’ territory. When the refugees themselves state “we’re here because you destroyed our countries”, Brussels will simply say that is not true. That kind of admission is way beyond the consciousness of the ‘leadership’. But it’s a denial that won’t get them anywhere.
Meanwhile, this issue, like so many others, is being used as a reason to plea for more EU:
Summer Crisis Tests Europe’s New Nationalisms
Dimitris Avramopoulos, the EU home affairs commissioner, argued last week [that] the very reach of the migration crisis shows the limits of national solutions. That, he said, puts pressure on governments to agree in Brussels to collective measures – even, he stressed, when they are not popular.
It’s an empty hollow plea. Why agree to give up more sovereignty if Brussels only uses its growing powers to do nothing? Europeans who give in to this kind of thing give up much more than sovereignty; they give up their decency and human values too.
The refugee issue can and will not be solved by the EU, or inside the EU apparatus, at least not in the way it should. Nor will the debt issue for which Greece was merely an ‘early contestant’. The EU structure does not allow for it. Nor does it allow for meaningful change to that structure. It would be good if people start to realize that, before the unholy Union brings more disgrace and misery and death upon its own citizens and on others.
However this is resolved and wherever the refugees end up living, we, all of us, have the obligation to treat them with decency and human kindness in the meantime. We are not.
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UR, if you followed a bit the news from the southern european countries like I do, you'd realize that they were all screaming since the begin of this tragedy
in fact, three things have finally made the surface of northern european awareness:
- the refugees around the French entrance to the tunnel to the UK
- the Balkan countries giving up and just waving the refugees through
- so many refugees that several northern countries have reached the limits of their usual capabilities
the eurosceptics? come on. show me even one of them that is not an unashamed populist. they revel in all this, I'm afraid
People are hysterically screaming that there is a fire in the theater, but there is no consensus as to where the exit is, and people who should know better should be explaining why the exit from this hell is not to be found in Brussels. As to the politicians, they are politicians, but why don't their ideological supporters demand more of them? Or are the convictions of their supporters as weak as those of the politicians?
http://albainternazionale.blogspot.it/2015/08/virginia-shooting.html
Virginia Shooting
So Tyler is lamenting those that defend the EU?
BTW the same folks dropping the bombs in MENA welcome the socialist refugee horde, they increase rents and make debt passage easier.
The folKS thwarting the invasion are the only ones with decency.
Most of the countrys the migrants come from are afflicted with civil wars. Most of the migrants are young and of military age. Why are they not sorting out the problems in their own countries instead of just running away. Many Kurd refugees have joined the Pesmerga or PKK and are fighting to win a country. If others did the same ISIS would now be destroyed. The cowards should be sent back to fix their own problems and the USA should stop starting wars.
It's suprising others have not mentioned this. From reports ISIS amounts to 10,000s of people at most. We are told there are 4 million Syrian refugess? That must be close to 1 million men of fighting age?
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The flood of migrants is the result of America's disastrous wars in the ME. Supported by EU countries and often the EU itself. In June I drove through Macedonia on my way to Greece. Then already you could see droves of migrants walking or cycling. There families with small children, even babies but the majority of them are young men. Men that could rebuild their countries but they decided to look for fortune in Europe. They won't find it because there are not enough jobs. Not enough housing. And they will get exploited. Tax payers will not want to foot the bill of supporting them. And then the disastifaction will kick in. They will want to impose they way of living to the rest of the Europeans. They don't respect our way of living. This will lead to tension. And let's not forget about the ISIS terrorists hiding between them. It is a recipe for disaster.
This situation is the result of the EU complete inadequate way of handling it. They should go after the people's smugglers and take them out. That will stop the exploitation and the dying at sea and now also on land.
Yeh trouble is those people smugglers are so out of reach in Lybia now because the place is so lawless and has no effective government, in fact what it has that passes for government is more likely to be part of the problem.
Then there is Turkey, given the amount of Syrians, Pakistanis and Afghans flooding out of that country you have to assume that the government there is also complisit in the movement of these people.
The best solution would be to build a series of huge internment camps on the borders of Europe and process these people in detention. They should not be allowed to roam free from country to country without papers, but they are.
There's no way to handle this issue gently. Lybia is a shithole because of war by USA and some EU countries, but there are legions of refugees from self-made hellholes too. From a personal standpoint it just makes sense to pay for the boat, risk ardous travel, even get into a detention center for a year or two - if you can swap hellhole life for even underclass EU life.
To stop them from coming chances would have to fall dramatically (if it's 5% chance and on failure you get shipped immediately to the other side of Mediterranean - even awesome prize is not worth the risk), risks increase by quite a lot (if illegal boats get turned around by force - and lack of adequate supply causes whole ships to starve to death... at such massive risk, again it is not worth it) or prize loose most of it's value (no social net unless you pay into it for a few years, and immediate deportation on first crime).
You nailed it. Once the free shit army don't get what they want, expect leftists to target these people and indoctrinate them with the idea of "entitlement". They will just create a hate filled resentful underclass like they now have in Sweden.
Frankly the far Lefts playbook is becoming all too transparent, in Saul Alinskys rules for radicals he outlines overwhelming Western social systems with unreasonable demands and then focusing on any small failures. I've worked in the UK NHS and I can tell you the left will ignore 999 people who were cured and exaggerate with maximal emotional impact the *one* failure.
The far left in Europe is often filled with opportunist scum, it's time the average European wake up to the fact.
Get bent over yourself, asshole.
The last public words of Ayn Rand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XiBU8geK08
BTW you're all dying at your own hand.
I AM THE BEST
If you want a sure-fire way to fuck up your nation, let a bunch of degenerate fucksticks from decrepit hellholes come live with you.
Well, its a tried and trusted method.
Castro used it to great effect when the US started offering asylum to anyone who made it out of Cuba. He just loaded up the rubber innertubes boats and dinghys with every criminal and mental patient in the country and sent them heading for Florida
EU is eating it's own shit as a result of being US accomplice in spreading chaos in the middle east... I hope the shit tastes goooood :-P
Tha vassals of the Zionist Crime Syndicate do not understand that they contributed to the destruction of Libia , Iraq , Syria and Afghanistan . The same vassals that knew of the Nuland coup d'etat in Ukraine are surprised that Russia reacted like it did .
Those Zionist vassals are a bunch of criminals that should be prosecuted for war crimes . They are incapable of facing their own mistakes and now they are trying to con the population that accepting illegal immigrants that have destroyed their own identity documents is the human thing to do . As usual, they do not ask the opinion on this issue on the voting public and they did not ask their voters about the EU's expansion to East Europe , the introduction of the Euro , the participation of the EU in colored revolutions in Eastern Europe and the detsabilization of other countries . Those Zionist vassals that run the EU are intent at replacing the original European inhabitants with third world immigrants the exact copy of what happens now in the USA . Another Zionist plot .. one of the many
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuXNMkBJbNg
"They are incapable of facing their own mistakes"
'tis not a mistake at all. All part of the plan for greater israel. Have to cleanse the land of the non-jews to make this happen.
Good to see my hgome country (U.S.), did its part (bombed the shit out of brown people, Arab Spring, etc.).
Decency? stop your appeal to emotion Meijer, our USA/UK anglo zion socialist internationalist leaders are betraying the white peoples of Europe in a deliberate attempt to destroy us socially and economically to divide and rule us.
The current utilization of immigrants as a tragic tool of divisiveness by Zion and their tyranny.
They make it possible, even encourage, immigration, then use wealth stolen from the people to support the new immigrants. Then they undermine the people with "laws" that infringe upon their rights of free association, Liberty, and force the hiring of, and association with, the immigrants.
Never mind how Zion's wars of plunder, and economic "hits," against the immigrants' homelands cause the need for them to emigrate in the first place.
Bottom line: There is something wrong with anyone that sees the poor miserable specimen of humanity that just got off the boat, or braved a walk in a desert, as the enemy instead of the jet setting, escargot eating, plundering, and cowardly pieces of shit pols, crats, banksters, and their Zionist masters.
Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity..
Considering the theft, violence, and harm caused by the banksters and slithers, guillotines will have the best ROI of any investment in history.
I looked Tyler up https://fr.linkedin.com/pub/raúl-ilargi-meijer/29/a18/892
and he appears to be some champagne socialist bolwerk University of Amsterdam brainwashed, probably jewish socialist, so that figures, I noticed this tone before with his posts.
When they are settled in my country and making demands to suit their cultures, rather than assimilating with the long established culture of a country, I have a problem with them. Which is why they are much better resettled in a country that has a similar culture.
I love my country and my culture, and its history, and I wish to see it thrive, but the sheer numbers heading to it are threatening the very fabric of our society here, we are not talking about small numbers of people, willing to assimilate into the host society anymore, this is as CAmeron rightly described, a swarm.
What this article misses is that Merkel and the EU elite want all these islamics.
They want them.
Just get on the computer and read the Barcelona Declaration of 1995
That is an EU declaration to islamify Europe.
Don't believe me.
CHECK IT OUT.
It was shelved in 2009 but given a new name to lull the people. But they are still at it. Its part of the drive for world government.
And of course if the EU becomes mired in islamic terror and its coming - in the short term not the long - they woill suspend democracy.
Thats the idea.
Islamic - trained jihadi militants are being allowed to pour in - many of these new 'migrants' are exactly that and we already have undreds of thousands.
We are in deep poo.
The British government and EU elite are the biggest traitors unhung.
The sooner we use some lamp posts the greater our chance of any survival at all.
I found this part of your comment very interesting: "The British government and EU elite are the biggest traitors unhung"
@Haus: here, another civilization/political/cultural divide
two countries that have had very few revolutions (and "divided by a common language"), and which give us a lot of talk about traitors to be hung
and all the rest that had lots and lots of revolutions and wars on their territories, and even leaderships hanging from a rope, from time to time
" it’s unworthy of Merkel. She’s supposed to be a leader in Europe, and she’s very obviously not."
Yep, she is Obama's poodle, as the leader of a vassal state subordinate to the USA as an outcome of ww2.
USA starts a war against a legitimate leader of Syria, gives rise to ISIS, and hence generates a never ending stream of immigrants.
Flewing into Europe, destroying it.
Conclusion.
USA is very effective in destroying its far most strongest competitor.
Next stop Moscow ?
The worlds google earthing whats on offer in the West, and thinking, hmmm yeah , we'll get positioned into that please.
Tsunami of race and cultures are about to hit the Western shores, and I don't think the statute book will be unable to unwind millenia of ingrained race differences. ESPECIALLY as the govs. try to promote , ' hey, we're all the same ' Big failure to understand human races self preservation imprinted. That's nature in action, and if you ram it all together and upset the natural balance of races, wars are inevitable, to restore ? each human races self preservation .
Good luck .
Probably google street viewing where they are going to live before hand as well
What natural balance of races? Like a balance between population of wolves and rabbits?
It's just regular racist dribble with no content.
(BTW I'd shoot those boats - but not because too many brown skin people in place where there were more white skin people before causes "natural balance" to be dislodged.)
Europe has absolutely no obligation to pay for free lives to all africans/arabs who manage to get over the Mediterranean.
You want to stop the drownings at sea? Follow the Australian policy and send them all back as soon as sandals hit the piers. Word gets around and in 2 weeks the flood will be over.
Guillotine 4 U
The current Australian policy (roughly "if you arrive here without a visa you will never receive residency") seems to work reasonably well.
When Labour was recently in government, this rule was relaxed... and people immediately started dying on overcrowded boats again.
Merkel made a pledge when she was sworn in, i.e. avert harm for the German people. She did not make any pledges to the Syrians or whoever. She should be prosecuted for violating her oath of Office. This article is imho propaganda from the neo-eco-liberal German fascists and total BS!!
Germany is being swamped, 800,000 "refugees" already, That country needs to get over its war guilt and double quick before it's turned into an Islamic state
That is 800,000 THIS year alone, not including the last 10 or the next 2, I say 2 as by then I thinkmost the entire Syrian population will be in Germany. See how that works.
10 years ago it was all about Integration, 5 years ago it was Tolerance now it`s just Bend-over and let your country get looted, your daughters raped, your social order upturned, your savings evaporate and everything you knew and hold dear thrown into the gutter - that is Progresivism that is Cultural Marxism this is Europe Today.
Biggest load of garbage I have read at ZH, you should be ashamed of yourself Tyler for entertaining this BS.
Yes, there are Syrian refugees amongst those people, but they have already passed through Turkey, where they could have claimed asylum, but didnt. Same goes for the Afghans amongst them.
Notable that in the last few months the floodgages through Turkey to Greece has opened, this has to be a deliberate policy on the part of the Turks.
But a closer look at those swarms heading to Europe will see they are mostly young males, and they a lot are from places like Pakistan and Sub Saharan Africa, and could have claimed asylum in an untold amout of countries if they wished.
The only thing I will agree on in thi article is that yes, the west, lead by the US/NATO and the EU caused the crisis we now see in Syria, Afghanistan and Libya. But most of those people you see are economic refugees looking for a better life in the west.
http://justice4germans.com/
http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/
Let us study history and question our indoctrinated beliefs and we might actually get somewhere and understand why the world is a shithole of the worst sort. The truth will come out, sooner or later.
The truth is right out there on the street.
In Europe you do not have to go far to see "The Truth", just walk into any town or city
I know, and it is a disgrace. We live in a world where most of the worlds information is at anyones fingertips and people still buy into political crap that is being spewed through media 24/7. Lack of critcal thinking and pursue for individual success has completely detached people from standing together. Yes, there are many who have awoken from the sleep lately but most of these people(that includes us her at ZH) want peaceful solutions. No one really wants a revolution or more wars regardless of the anger we (at least I do) feel due to the systems that are being jammed down our throats. At some point enough becomes enough.
When you are Pax Americana's surrogate you work under the mantra of US MIC's extension of the Reserve currency principle :
"Our Reserve money your problem" becomes "our wars for Oil your problem for the deadwood of refugees".
The wall of money is now complemented by the wall of arms dissemination and quasi permanent state of asymmetric wars.
And Europe swallows the shit storm that Pax Americana makes, like a subdued hinterland of the Empire ; selling the same spiel of "war on terrorism"; forgetting CAUSALITY.
A civilization that INVENTED LOGIC and FACTUALITY now ignores REALITY and CAUSALITY in feigned DENIAL. "Clash of Civilization is not of our making".
Oh, so GWB Crusade to destroy Iraq's WMD treasure trove and its 15 year fall out were all authentic reality?
And...who sold chemical weapons to Assad's regime?
To paraphrase Voltaire : If God doesn't exist we would have to INVENT Him, becomes : If the terrorist didn't exist We would have to Invent him!
You bet! You did it in Nam/Cambodia. Now its just rinse and repeat!
When you look at the deployment of American military bases in ME/ASIA/AFRICA/SE ASIA you can see where the next storm is coming or has already come.
Its in the Horn of Africa, its in the Central lake districts and around ole Mobutu's (the original CIA recruit) Congo. Its around Q-daffy's ex Libya. All infested with Pax Americana's Great Game of selling democracy and civilization (and pilfering their Oil) to these nations (who leaders have been hand picked, groomed, to be Oligarchy and NWO compatible by the US and its surrogate allies) and creating mayhem for the innocent caught in the inevitable crossfire--which bTW is the very salt on the table of the MIC as it means moar sale of weapons...whence their ubiquitous presence doing God's work.
What could be wrong?
Global Droneistan here we come!
There was a lot of help from the rest of the world in this shit storm.
note how all this comes to you from leftist liberalism - it is a disease destroying the world.
Damn right GWB, Dick Cheney, the New American Century, ROnnie, Maggie, Tricky Dicky : ALL liberal leftists.
And to boot the disease destroying the world.
With secret Commies like that who'd be surprised the official Commies themselves have now embraced NWO.
The 9 families that run China and the 400 families that run the WEST thanks to their Uber wealth : ALL DIEHARD Leftist liberals; NOT LIKE that arch conservative and reactionary, Elizabeth Warren, who can't even get the Senate to re-instate Glass Steagall.
What a deluded witch to think Glass Steagall is a solution to the world's financial problems !
How the fuck did this article ended up on ZH?
Like Europe should feel guilty for world misery and have the compassion to plunder its economy (already in a shitty state) for general interest. Someone remind me what country has the most prominent military presence and screwy foreign policy on this planet.
A casting mistake for sure.
Tyler is throwing us some Meat that we may rip to shreds devour and shit out the back end ;)
CHINA has pushed the collapse of the EU onto the back burner -- Most people these days (if they’ve even GOT a kitchen) don’t have a back burner.
Tyler(s) just want to make sure that pot doesn’t go cold & forgotten -- The situation in the EU is closer to war NOW than it was when EVERYONE was doing Greece, 24/7 a month ago.
(It’s ALMOST as if an issue doesn’t concern or worry anyone unless it’s about MONEY!)
The comments for this article are amusing. This refugee thing has been going on forever, only now with a bigger earth population. Look how a land bridge from what is now Russia to Alaska ended up with ancient peoples building cities in the Andes.
Everything is just speeding up.
Regardless of where you stand on the immigration debate, this piece makes an important point about the structural problem with the EU. If you're an alarmist little bitch you won't care because just crying about how everything is bad and everybody wrong will get you through your day. If you're a sensible person you look for the source of the problem and think in solutions. Funny how people on the right are beginning to resemble lefties with their whining and reliance on emotional arguments instead of one's based in reason and rule of law.
Anyway, the structural issue with the Eu: there's a deadlock of power between the Eu and the.member states. The EU is unable to implement structural reforms or policies, the members won't give up that power on anything that truly matters to them, citing national interest. The Eu, which needs that power to survive holds on to its power where it can.
Simply put: the member states won't reform their immigration policy because of the EU. And the EU won't implement one because well... member states. Nothing gets done and we're stuck with an immigration policy that fails at giving refugees the refuge they need and fails at dealing with economic immigration.
To participate you need.to.naturalize and integrate. Why can't we offer temp work visas. Give them a couple of years to work or study here and make clear it's temporary and doesn't lead to citizenship. That's what.most immigrants and refugees want anyway. But we force them to integrate. A lot of them can't and become dependent which leads them to stay here...it's a vicious cycle. With a temp work and study program both sides would benefit and you wouldn't have this dehumanizing shit on the borders. There really is a mutually beneficial solution...it's no secret Europe needs workers to offset an aging population. The workers are literally kicking down the door to work here...but we're standing there with a clipboard, to.determine of we.feel sorry enough for someone to let them.in (the arrogance), the rest we imprison and turn away (only to try again somewhere else). The ones we let in we want to.assimilate...before.you get a.job, first learn the language, our ways and.study...then.maybe we'll let you be a mailman or taxi driver someday, make you just as dependent on our tax and welfare system as we are so you'll never want to leave and, god forbid, use the money and.skills you earned here to contribute to your local economy there.
But the EU has put an entire continent under deadlock...just like I've been stressing for years...it, by nature, can't deal with.anything significant. No real policy or organization...the.member states.don't have to because our politicians will point to.the EU and mumble something about formulating a centralised policy at the European levels.
"(Bought and paid for stooge) calls for more European integration on the issue of (hot button topic of the day)"...that always works. It's an.entirely self affirming system that.only pays lip service to democratic ideals...but is so great at it, that the mouthpieces actually believe what they're spewing. You can't accuse Angela Merkel of being a dumb woman.
This immigration issues show how absolutely inept and divorced from reality our political class is. Stuff like this is gonna make the EU crash and burn way before our finances drag us down.Immigration and our non-response, or the good old farm subsidies...even with them, most European farmers are deep under water with.commodities down, Russia blocked off, China on it's way to implode...it's gonna get worse.
The way I look at the markets is.that everybody knows the fix is in, we're topping out. All this.bouncing around last week...I see a system that's looking for an excuse to.collapse.
But, reading comments here people are more interested in shifting blame and pointing fingers like good little populo-fascists. And with most of Europe still drinking the centralisation kool-aid and unable to come up with anything new ...I predict ugly ugly times ahead.
I agree if people would use their heads a solution for most immigration issues could be found. It would not be perfect and many would continue to whine but a reasonable solution exists.
I do disagree that nations should should essentially 'integrate' to the immigrants. The immigrants are guests in another country and should integrate to the country they are in. Learn the language and laws and adhere to the laws and customs of the country they are in.
That's the problem though, they don't integrate. They walk around in foreign clothes, only marry into their own race/religion. Demand we tolerate their religion, whilst at the same time having nothing but contempt for Christianity.
People forget that, in the West, women have died in the struggle for equality. This immigrants/migrants or whatever you want to call them are trying to turn the clock back. The abaya should be illegal in Europe and America, it is a symbol of the repression of women. If women want to dress modestly they can find plenty of suitable Western style clothing. No, these foreigners are making a statement which many nationals find both offensive and intimidating.
They marry their own kind. However, local white girls are fair game for rape.
Regardless of where you stand on the immigration debate, this piece makes an important point about the structural problem with the EU.
Simply put..... The Europeans never got the possibility to speak out infavor or against the EU.
The 'democratic'EU began without........... we, the people.
So how low can you get ?
On the other hand....
The Europeans are acting like sheeple ..like the americans ....
"To make sure there would be space and provisions for all who undertook the perilous journey, women, children, men, every single one."
This dude is out of his fucking mind completely.
Thera are no jobs, and i won't pay € 750,- healthcare a month to cut off all those little pieces of meat from little muslim dicks.
The rich don't want to pay taxes to help the poor in their own countries.
Do they think we are socialists?
Fuck off and die.
If I am ever poor and destitute I feel happy knowing I can go to champagne liberal Raul Meijer's front door step and know he will treat me with "decency." /sarcasm.
I really can't stand champagne liberal activist like this who believe it should be Europe's duty to bankrupt itself, because Middle Eastern countries and some African countries are somehow worse at "democracy" or even representative republicanism than we are. Keep electing or supporting the biggest bastards, follow one of the most hate filled religions on the planet, and if everything doesn't work out show up at your ENEMIES front door step and they should treat you with compassion. I'm sure the French are thrilled their Parisian ghettos are filled with malcontent Middle Easterner assholes who believe their religion should be the religion of the world (despite the fact that they are fleeing a country run by a government conforming to their shit religion).
The author even has the nerve to mention England. Remember the story when the muslims in England tried to change the laws in parts of London to basically conform to Sharia law?
This libtard blogger needs to go fuck himself.
Prisons in the UK are full of Pakastani Muslims who think grooming, raping and even branding young white school children is acceptable. Then there was/is the Islamification of schools in the Birmingham area of the UK.
Seriously they fuck up their own countries with their shitty policies then ignore the fact that their shitty policies are to blame and show up in Western countries looking for handouts and to continue the same shitty policies.
Why didn't the fuckin french stay in fuckin france. These people would be happily liviving their lives in their own countries if it wasn't for fuckin USA fuckim\n France and Fuckin NATO
what will the green middle-plane people do whn they come in million?
all the teachers with gubermint wages alwa seeing the bright side of things
shot all refugees at the border?
it will wreck the common sense of a whole continet.
and what abot all the loosers inside the states?
they see foregners which get houss build and they have nothing.
thats the mood of a new weimar forming.
thx foreigners across the ocean for destabilizing every single country bordering the eu.
an burn in hell euro bureaucraats for your historic dumbness in determining the root cause of the flood....
David Cameron was wrong, it isn't a 'swarm' of migrants, it's a bloody infestation.
These so called migrants loose all legitimacy as soon as they leave the first safe country they enter, in a lot of cases this is Turkey. As soon as they reach Europe they become illegal, economic migrants and that is one reason why we don't want them here.
They are not content with staying in Greece or Italy, they want to enter the countries with the highest welfare benefits. They put enormous strain on health, education and housing in the countries they infest and the nationals who have paid taxes for the provision of such services are being denied access to them because of the demand caused by these illegals who have paid nothing into the system but demand, yes demand everything from it.
It isn't down to race either, a lot of the resistance to these parasites is because of the religious and cultural threat they cause to own own societies. Just look at what has happened in France this year, or the train from Brussels to Paris last week. Who wants to encourage more of the same?
Do you notice these 'poor migrants' don't head to Russia, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia or China, or to safe neighbouring countries that surround their own borders. Why should we have sympathy for them, they are in Europe for economic reasons, they are parasites. When is America going to take their share of migrants from Libya and Syria?
Ever thought maybe you are a cunt
I'll take that as a compliment.
If you care so much, offer them a home, pay for their education, health, food and clothing. Ensure they are not a health or terrorist risk and I'm sure nobody will complain.
If you are gonna complain about people leaving a warfare zone then stop bombing it They were looking after themselves just fine until the USA fucked up their lives
Nobody is complaining about them leaving a war zone. Take a look at Google Maps:
Peaceful countries surrounding Syria: Turkey, Lebanon, Iran.
Peaceful countries very close by: Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Russia.
All these countries are nearer than Europe. These people are not fleeing to safety, if they were they would be in one of these countries. No, they are in Europe to loot our benefit systems. You only have to look at the countries they head straight for. I repeat, the minute they enter Europe they are illegal, economic migrants.
I wish they would migrate to the USA because Europe doesn't want them. The vast majority of public opinion is for them to be sent back, the politicians are acting undemocratically, and without a legal mandate by allowing them to enter Europe.
Nato and USA are resonsible for this crisis. Europe may not want them but it does not have the balls to stand up to the USA and not comply with the USA requirement to bomb Libya Syria Iraq Afghnistan and without Russia's presence Ukraine. In a more perfect world all these refugees would be USA's problem but in this world they are USA's poodle Europes problem.
I would say these people are in great danger in Europe. Look at the demonstrations in Germany, the rise of far right politicians all over Europe, if the politicians don't start listening to the people soon I fear the consequences. I have heard a lot of anger in Europe recently, read about the 'Great Adolf' in a national newspaper, this would have been unthinkable a year ago.
I really don't want to see these people being hurt, but by the sheer numbers they are perceived as a threat. They are a security risk and as those already in Europe have proved, they are completely incompatable with our culture, values and belief systems. I think NATO should set up camps in safe neighbouring countries and put them there until it is safe for them to return home.
would you take food from your own child to feed a stranger if you knew it would bring closer the starvation of your own? that is how this boils down.
Euros .... the people !
Maybe this time .... socialism will work .... maybe this time Keynesian fractional reserve banking will work ..... maybe this time Islam will be peaceful ?
Deport every single one of them. Shoot anyone who resists. Shoot anyone else who tries to enter. Arrest anyone who traffics or harbors them. Fire anyone who supports them.
Seeking asylum under false pretenses .... is a crime .... combatants out of uniform are provocateurs, saboteurs and spies .... the real refugees from Islam are not allowed to leave .... that is a war crime !
You fuckin fuckwit. If the USA had not bombed the shit out of these places they would all be stayingf home.
Capitalism creates abundance, leisure and a great place to escape to .... when your shithole Islamic republic .... self destructs !
Oh that would be Detroit or Ferguson would it?
The refugees risk their lives to get to white European countries because their own countries are indecent, backward, and medieval. Same with USA. If USA is so 'racist' then why do Hispanics want to abandon their own countries under pain of death to get there?
The refugees are bullshit, I really don't care about them at all. The EU for whatever retarded reason is giving them handouts that are greater than most citizens see from legitimate work. Refugees should basically just be slaves. They can either stay put and fight possibly to the death for their own country, or they can be slaves to a country that is going to have to sacrifice to fight on their behalf eventually. And that's all there is to it.
Sorry to burst your bubble ZH, but it is an absolute joke to imply that the peoples of white European descent in Europe lack any decency with regard to the cabalist inspired, engineered, and financed invasion of Europe (and other white nation’s world-wide) by third-world non-whites.
Get over it. There is no white guilt. It's a dead myth.
Peoples of white European descent have been too compassionate in the past for their own survival.
We will survive, prosper and hold on to our genetics, cultures and countries, despite every attempt by the cabal to accomplish world-wide genocide of white Europeans.
Anyone who reduces this to a colour of skin issue is a rascist cunt. Oh and that would be you teutonicate
Guillotine 4 all of U EU Sociopaths.
It costs millions if not billions to recruit, clothe, feed and transport these migrants, or as I call them, "invaders." The never identified agent clearly wants to destroy White Man. Jew could this agent be? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ
White Girl, what those orcs want most is your genes. Don't give your genes to them. That goes for you too White Boy. And about that scroll with the names of the dead invaders, how are their names even known? Who printed it? Anybody got a match?
You are a racist Cunt
fly, -- you are so clever!
Fuckin Europeans support NATO and the USA while they bomb the shit out of middle eastern and North african countries then complain when the populatios of these countries want to escape to somewhere that is not being constantly attacked. Don't you wish USA was joined to Europe and had to reap what they had sowen
All part of the plan...moving well and fast as we write.. unless we stop it
Dr. George Brock Chisholm CC (18 May 1896 – 4 February 1971) a Canadian WW1 veteran, medical practitioner, and the first Director-General of the World Health Organization (WHO)., addressing the UN in 1948:- “To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism, and religious dogmas. ”
If his proposal was taken on-board, it certainly seems to explain much of what’s been happening in western society since.
'Bomb them, and they will come.'
Ah, young Snake, you are getting a clue.
I up-voted you for calling me young, you smooth talking bastard you. x
Thanks Raul,
You've assembled most of the psychopaths here in one spot where one good barrage will take most of them out as they scream, Socialists! Socialist!
Here's a message for all the little anti-semites stinking up this site. Jews kick ass.
dane, - did you mean lick ass?
If said ass belongs to a five year old Palestinian girl.
Yes Jews do kick ass, and rape people systematically too. Both literally and figurtivly. Look at Ukraine in early 20th century or the occupied palistinian people today.
Rape, Murder, and Exploitation. Chosen.
The best way to get rid of immigration is to have socialism!
It works since 1917 :)
The solution to the European problem is the same as the solution to the US problem with immigrants from Central America and it isn't to accept the immigrants. The solution is to take complete control of these countries because although the governments of Europe and in the US have problems, the governments where the migrants are coming from are worse by an order of magnitude.
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However this is resolved and wherever the refugees end up living, we, all of us, have the obligation to treat them with decency and human kindness in the meantime."
We have not such an obligation !
We are free people, we don't have the plight to pay some one elses bill.
When we were in war, the men fought, the women and childeren and the elderly flew..
I see grown up men acting like cowards. leaving their country instead of defending it. Will they go back after the war ....as liberators ?
Which right do they have upon the ones who stood behind and gave thier lives, for their families, their country, their identity, their freedom ?
Like childeren they beg, they beg for wealth and they beg for freedom.
On which moral grounds do they deserve that ? They failed in defending their freedom.
if not given... they will steal it under socialistic grounds.
And thats our responsibility.
Europe & US could't run their grand socialist programs without more new young taxpayers - when the existing whites decided to stop having babies, TPTB trashed their neighbors and those citizens fled into the US & Europe....If the US didn't "need" the South American and Latin American refuges we wouldn't have them....
More new young taxpayers?? What planet are you from? These are not "taxpayers" they are welfare recipients and nothing more. They are not people who will adopt western practices and they will complain that what they get for free, is not enough.
I don't get why the EU doesn't simply load these folks on 747s and fly them to Washington. Obama blew up their countries after all. These war refugees are certainly more deserving of US aid than the Central American migrants flooding over our border simply because they're poor and want a piece of our pie.
If you support diversity then you should support white homelands where the cultures that created so much for the world can continue to thrive. Anything else is genocide.
Hogwash. Europe is the cradle of western civilization. Not Saudi Arabia's septic tank. European governments need cheap Saudi oil to keep Russia from taking her place among the great powers of the world and keep their own welfare states from complete collapse. That, and only that, is the reason "Germany" welcomes Muslim "refugees" over the objections of the overwhelming majority of the German people. Spiting Israel is gravy.
Consider that it is Putin's closest allies within Europe---Orban and Zeman---who are taking the most rational approach to the problem. They govern in the interests of their people, not bankers---and understand their countries have little to gain from Muslim settlement and much to lose.
A solution to Europe's "refugee" problem will be obvious once Saudi Arabia runs out of oil---drive the Arabs back into Arabia and see to it they stay there. Till then, god bless and keep the Hungarians for being blessed with backbones and Victor Orban.
What has happened is fairly easy to understand, in broad terms. Many Middle East countries run with a religion and way of life which is directly opposed to current Western culture and practice. But the West wanted the oil from these countries. So they set up dictators to run the countries in a Western-friendly fashion. This annoyed some of the population, but the dictators suppressed much dissent, and were able to run their countries fairly peacably, though undemocratically and with the odd massacre.
Occasionally, some of the population would try to attack the West (typically America) for supporting these dictators. Then, in a very stupid, short-sighted policy, America and the West turned on the dictators they had been supporting, and had several of them killed without making any provision for an effective new government structure. Now there is open warfare across the Middle East as various religious groups try to fill the vacuum. And many people are now running from the conflict.
America and, to a lesser extent Britain, were responsible for this foolish strategy. They were warned at the time what would happen. They are essentially responsible. So I would take the migrants/refugees, and send 80% to America, and the remaining 20% to Britain. That seems to be a fair division...
To the many people asking WHY Tyler submitted this post from Raul; over 22,000 reads and 250 comments, that's why.
It's a fruitful topic.
You don't think Tylers running this site out of the goodness of his heart do you?
"And the disgrace belongs to all of us." Fuck off Raul. You wrote one like this before and it is still garbage. They have the willingness to make a perilous journey because they are rewarded in the end. Ship them right back and they will spread the word for others to not bother going. Up the exportation of those residing within the country illegally. Reference the USA if you need more perspective.
"However this is resolved and wherever the refugees end up living, we, all of us, have the obligation to treat them with decency and human kindness in the meantime. We are not."
Wrong. Wrong on so many levels. We don't have an obligation to do anything. Yes, I understand what catalysed these events, but the people of Europe are largely not responsible for events they had little or no say in. The elites of America and Europe destroyed Libya and Syria. We did not. As such we bear no responsibility for the resulting events. Those who perpetuated the wars there should bear the punishement for their actions (ex. Hillary Clinton, Barry Soetoro).
Furthermore, these are not classic "immigrants" like America received more than a century ago where they came here to BECOME Americans, to integrate, to JOIN America. These so-called "migrants" clearly are NOT coming to Europe to BECOME European and certainly not to integrate with the culture. They have already established in spectacular fashion their complete cultural incompatibility with any European/Western culture. They are not "immigrants" or "asylem seekers", sadly this is an INVASION.
The vast majority of these people are entirely hostile to everything in European culture. They only thing they want in Europe is to become a parasite. A parasite that will kill its "host". Europe is on the brink of very real destruction. Have they forgotten they have been invaded and attacked by Muslims for one THOUSAND years?? It seems they have.
And the disgrace belongs to all of us.
Fuck that noise. Almost all of us had nothing whatsoever to do with their plight. Europeans have always been rude and snooty to their 'lessers' so fuck off with your bleeding heart shit.
What Brussels lacks most of all is morals, decency and compassion. It is a bureaucracy that has no human values. And this is expressed, in a painful and deadly way, not only in the streets of Athens, though it’s plenty glaringly clear there too, but even more in how the so-called Union “deals with” (that is, it doesn’t) the Mediterranean refugee issue.
Because ALL of the strings have been systematically pulled for the better part of 70 years from across the Atlantic by the ones that brought them the petrodollar, Coca Cola, McDonalds, Burger King and Kentucky Fried Chicken...
They are all being told that they better make it a New-World-Order or suffer the same consequences or worse that they did before 1945!!!
Same cast of character only this time they have a helleva lot less in there arsenal of threats with no money or means to back it up!
My advice to what is left of the Union. Throw the fucking Yankee bum out of your Country starting with their military bases and then the diplomatic "sewing circle" and head East while you still can!
PS
Fantastic write up. I'm delighted that ZH finally addressed this as the U.S. media is doing everything consciously in it's power to ignore how truly awful the situation and condition has gotten thanks to what their government has contributed in achieving this horrific milestone.
It sounds like the author expects Europe to absorb any and all the come to its shores. If that's the case he probably believes that we're suppose to accept all our illegals too.
What else can you say Vin
It's the 21st Century version of "trail of tears" and "wounded knee" for the Middle East.
And make no mistake those refugees are being dealt with by their host(s) exactly the same way only this time the irony being these European "member states" are undergoing the worst possible economic crisis as they come in -to this reads point!
If the refugees are such a problem then fix the problem at the source. It must be nice living in those countries that the refugees have left. More available housing and jobs, fewer crowded streets. I'd think about moving there. If a shooting army comes with me maybe we can improve the area as well so nobody leaves in a boat.They have the names of the dead so they must also have the names of the guilty parties. Go there and hang the lot of them. God damn it I'm asking for American help again. They are pretty goof even unarmed and untrained at defeating terrorists. Why not send 1/4 million men and defeat those 10k ISIS buggers. Oh that's right. Never mind.
This Raul guy is full sh!t, Why should we show compasion to illegal immigrants. They died because they took the risk, it's no elses fault or problem, if their dumb enough to risk it, they deserve their fate. It's time for goverrnments around the world to send em back where they came from and kill the smugglers.
Smugglers are no different than pirates and should be treated as such.
I am all about helping the refugees, but.
1. It is either them or us or both of us. Someone will die in the end and not in small numbers either. Letting in the refugees will sooner or later result in CIVIL WAR. Some preludes were already seen of this in France and Sweden.
2. Migrants i are 72% young males (data in Hungary) That tells A LOT about the culture of the people who are fleeing.
3. No, it is really not the EU that destroyed these countries (maybe except for Libya). All these other MENA countries OVERPOPULATED themselves own their own. MENA region is 50% dependent on food imports. Population growth is the highest in the world. It will get worse. Much worse.
@BlackVoid
" MENA region is 50% dependent on food imports."
That's why I'm against the exportation of all foodstuffs to third world countries. Stop feeding themand the invasive pathogens from these regions will stop flooding first world nations and Mr. Darwin will do his duty. Simply put, if you can't feed them then don't breed them.
Karma will catch you one day.