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Polish Government Confirms Discovery Of Nazi "Gold Train", Warns It May Be Booby-Trapped
Last weekend we reported that in the past month two men, a Pole and German, claimed to have discovered the legendary Nazi "gold train" - a 150 meter long German train alleged to be full of gold, gems and weapons, which disappeared just before the end of World War II - in the proximity of the Polish town of Walbrzych, close to where the Nazi are said to have loaded up the train with valuables for its final voyage in the town of Wroclaw, just as the Soviet forces approached in 1945.
As we detailed, the train is said to have been entombed in the vast tunnel labyrinth located close to Ksiaz castle, which served as Nazi headquarters during World War II...
Ksiaz castle, Nazi headquarters during World War II
... and specifically, was said to be located at the foot of the Sowa mountain, in the woods three miles outside the town of Walbrych.
The "gold train" is said to be located under this hill
While many were skeptical that the mystical Nazi treasure train had been finally discovered after many years of searching, an official update last Friday by the Polish government suggested that that may indeed be the case. As the Mail reported on Friday, a representative of the Polish culture ministry, Poland’s National Heritage and Conservation Officer Piotr Zuchowski, said that the man who helped hide the train had revealed its location shortly before he died, and that proof of the train has been observed on radar.
Zuchowski added that "Information about where this train is and what its contents are were revealed on the deathbed of a person who had knowledge of the secret of this train.' He added that Polish authorities had now seen evidence of the train’s existence in a picture taken using a ground-penetrating radar. He said the image - albeit blurred - showed the shape of a train platform and cannons.
Piotr Zuchowski, Poland’s National Heritage and Conservation Officer, confirmed the 'unprecedented' find
Mr Zuchowski said the find was 'unprecedented', adding: 'We do not know what is inside the train. 'Probably military equipment but also possibly jewellery, works of art and archive documents.
'Armored trains from this period were used to carry extremely valuable items and this is an armored train, it is a big clue.' He said authorities were now '99 percent sure the train exists' and whatever is on it will be returned to the rightful owners, if they can be found. 'We will be 100 per cent sure only when we find the train,' Mr Zuchowski added.
The train found in the mountains is an 'armored train' which looks similar to the one pictured
Mr Zuchowski told reporters that the train was about 100 metres long but added: 'It is not possible to disclose the exact location of where the train can be found. Still, he noted cryptically that "The local government in Walbrzych knows where it is."
He explained it is hidden along a 4km stretch of track on the Wroclaw-Walbrzych line.
Mr Zuchowski said the person who claimed he helped load the gold train in 1945 said in a 'deathbed statement' the train is secured with explosives. The official declined to comment further about the man who said this but speculation is now rife that it was a former SS guard or a local Pole who stumbled upon the train before hiding it.
Deputy Mayor of Walbrzych, Zygmunt Nowaczyk told the press: 'The city is full of mysterious stories because of its history. 'Now it is formal information - we have found something.'
Key excerpts from the press conference by the Polish official can be seen on the Euronews clip below:
The confirmation of the discovery unleashed a surge of treasury hunters, and forced the Polish government to warn the population to stop looking because it could be booby-trapped and dangerous. Zuchowski said "foragers" have become active since two people claimed to have discovered the train last week and urged eager fortune-hunters to stop searching, saying they risk injury or death.
Zuchowski adds that "there may be hazardous substances dating from the Second World War in the hidden train, which I'm convinced exists. I am appealing to people to stop any such searches until the end of official procedures leading to the securing of the find. There's a huge probability that the train is booby-trapped.'
If anything, tthese warnings are sure to unleash an even more aggressive wave of seekers now that the train's existience has been confirmed, and the government is actually warning seekers to be careful in their search.
But perhaps what is more interesting is just what the discovery, which would be straight out of an Indiana Jones sequel, will contain, and whether someone already got to the precious cargo over the past 7 decades. The answer should be made public shortly.
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And one train car where they tortured kittens.
Should be good for a $100 smack-down around 0815 tomorrow, no?
GOLD bitchez!
Stay away from paper gold, own it, caress it, make love to it. But, never ever let it leave your side.....wiiliam skake-a-spear
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?Bearing the stone tablets on which the Ten Commandments were inscribed, the Ark was said to be gold-lined inside and out. Four men were needed to carry it; they used gold-plated poles, as it was considered too dangerous to go within a hand’s-breadth. Charged with divine energy, the Ark could level mountains, knock down the walls of cities and strike Israel’s enemies with cancerous tumors and fiery bolts. The Ark disappeared sometime between 597 and 586 BCE. The myth claims that the Nazis wanted to acquire and harvest the Ark powers – as it would have been the ultimate weapon in the World War.
Read some of Joseph Farrell's work on the Germans war time efforts. Fascinating stuff.
Farrell is interesting as he is able to speak and read German and access primary sources. He's skeptical enough to weed out the batshit crazy stuff and open minded enough to be willing to assemble some pieces.
somewhat OT but pertains to the Nazi Holocaust.
Have ZHers seen this story?
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/descendants-of-holocaust-survi...
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/21/study-of-holocaust-surviv...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24029109
Now epigenetics is an emerging field and a lot of things presumed to have no function 10 or 20 years ago is looking like it plays a role.
However, the fact that they studied "holocaust survivors" rather than people who experienced more recent, and acute trauma [and their kids] makes me think this is absolute horseshit.
However - I don't have any real background in genetics to I defer to someone who does.
"Limit Down" , gold bitchez.
There should be hundreds of tons of forensic evidence. When it's legal to talk about in Europe and is investigated I will worry about the changes in the "survivors".
I could be off base here, but phosphoylation seems to be something to do with it and stress can influence it.
Phosphorylation is the process by which phosphate groups are added to a molecule by a kinase. The phosphorylation status of a fragment of DNA can influence its ability to proceed in reactions.
Some claim that this can be inherited - studies are on-going.
Perhaps the stress is caused by pathologically lying.
What will be amazing (and never reported) is if there is a bell on board that train (a "bell" as described in Nick Cook's invaluable "Hunt for Zero Point"). The hazardous material could refer to the "Zerum-525" inside the bell, the composition of which is still to this day either unknown or above top secret. I suspect the latter.
It's funny that Nick Cook had promised a follow on book to the Hunt for Zero Point as he had gained so much more information during the process. Crickets...
Jospeh Farrell picked up that ball and ran with it.
Nick tragically shot himself in the head with a nail gun, twice
Here is an interesting article explaining the Bell https://sites.google.com/site/nazibelluncovered/
The Germans were trying to build the "A" bomb, who knows what's really on that train.
I've read a fair amount of history around Germany and the A-bomb.
I don't think it was ever a priority for them, otherwise I think there would be a lot more German speakers on planet earth.
Watch.
The fuckers will open it to find Geraldo and his man bandage looking shocked.
Shocked I tell you!
What is 'Indian Jones'? Is he the Indian in Red River that wins the wooden teeth off of Cookie in a poker game? Or is that the guy that was in that 70s commercial for pollution along US innerstate hiways?
NOTE: The Mafia have likely been looking for that Nazi gold train for the last seven decades and it is doubtful that they would not be in on the find all these years later no matter if it was rigged to explode or not.
Soul Train
70 year-old Nazi trains ready to "slaughter civilians"? Did they contain lampshades, bars of soap and shrunken heads too? Oh wait, those tall tales were discredited and quickly buried. Still, can't hurt to put it out there, may get to use that for future generations still sufferink duh holocau$t.
I vus gassed 3...no, no...6 times I tell ya.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/new-israeli-study-finds-signs-of-trau...
I'm surprised they didn't just find it outside the gates of Auschwitz for added melodrama.
It’s too bad the Germans didn’t win the war. No Jews, no commies, no homos,no cripples, no darkies, no rednecks. One World Order all run by The Master Race, powered by German technology. Now that’s a society I think would work. Finally, peace on earth.
you can certainly hate Nazis and Fascists and have reasonable doubt about the consensus narrative. The art of propaganda was very well developed by the end of WW2.
Some of us also are aware of the prominent role Jews played during ww1, in Hollywood and in the media, to villify the Germans to help get the US to enter a war the vast majority did not want to join.
So you can take your lazy sarcasm, and previously noted Jewish Supremacism and racism and shove it up your twat, Rachel.
Great story, don't believe a bit of it, but it makes for grand theater.
We're talking about 300 tonnes of gold, it's smackdown time...
China's buying at 5 dolla above spot, we too high,,
Geraldo Rivera should host a show about cracking open that train.
No no. Not Geraldo. Rather Jorge Rrrrrrrrrramos. Geraldo is soooooooo out, and Jorge in. Just ask The Donald.
I know a great long story about Geraldo, but I will only give 1/3rd here. A long time ago i had dinner with the clerk of the supreme court. The clerk of the supreme court is no clerk, he runs the place. At the time the clerk was a retired brigadire general from the JAG corps. Becoming a member of the bar of the supreme court is trivial, if you have passed a state bar. It is a simple formality, but you have to go to Washington and get the Holy Water thrown on you. It turns out that Geraldo has a law degree and passed a state bar.
So Geraldo appears before the "clerk" to be sworn in. The clerk say, 'Raise your right hand and repeat after me, I Jerry Rivers.....' Geraldo interrupts and says...'I want to be sworn in as Geraldo Rivera.' Clerk looks at the papers and says, 'It says here your name is Jerry Rivers.' Geraldo says, 'Yes, but I want to be sworn in as Geraldo Rivera.' Clerk says, "Repeat after me, I Jerry Rivers....'
I liked that guy. He wouldn't take any s*&t from anybody. You can be sure that if he had said, 'white lives matter, all lives matter' - and he probably would have - he wouldn't have apologized a few days later for being insensitive.
Sounds more likely that another foriegn central bank is about to initiate a new Gold repatriation call against the NY FED.
I wonder how much 1 billion dollars or euros will be worth in 70 years, if we bury them now.
Are these the paper or plastic one?
With paper you can wipe your ass.
now how would the greek bailout #4 go if the greeks semi-announced they had found a huge nazi treasure cache?
Sounds like a load of bull to me. A hidden train Ya, in the bushes. Nobody noticed it for the last 75 years till some Polack tripped on it while taking her dog for a walk. This reeks of credibility.
Maybe it's really the gold that someone stole from the World Trade centers right bfore 911-or the gold stolen from Libya, iraq, Ukraine -or Fort Knox. matters not -the jews will take it.
The Nazis build hidden headquarters, some that had rail tracks into them with blast doors. See Hitler's Secret Headquarters by Seidler. And they were big on tunnels with factories, etc.
But what is so odd about train cars on a rail siding along the side of a hill or a cut through a hill, pull up the tracks leading to it, use bulldozers to push dirt from the hill over the train. I'd guess an engineering company could do it in a day. Polish citizens would know better than to go snooping around Nazi military things, and later they have the Soviets to worry about. In a couple years, brush covers it and it is forgotten.
XitSam asked "But what is so odd about train cars on a rail siding along the side of a hill or a cut through a hill, pull up the tracks leading to it, use bulldozers to push dirt from the hill over the train."
The bulldozing would not be odd though covering up 100 meters of train would not be an easy task even with loaders, dump trucks and a big crew, particularly filling voids under the cars. The odd part is no one in the area noticing or remembering it, particularly rail workers or children who may haunt the area.
I'm not saying there is "no" buried train full of gold and such, I'm saying the probability is close to zero in my informed opinion. As chance may have it, I worked over 10 years in railroad construction, engineering and quality assurance and have done most everything the article would require to bury a train with construction equipment except bury a train. I have buired some old single wooden rail cars before crunching them up with a bucket blade along side of a hill and back dragging dirt over them.
It's a cool story about the Lost Gold Train. I hope it turns out to be true. The world is going broke, a couple hundred tons of new gold should help a lot of pocket books.
The jews will claim it's all theirs anyway -never mind that the 50 million holohoax survivors hve already extracted ten times their actual losses -they will get this too.
I think a few trillion to the survivors plus a few more nuclear subs to Israel should cover it nicely.
It is not possible to disclose the exact location of where the train can be found and they want people to be aware that it may be booby trapped because..... gold is a barbarous relic and stuff...
Anal probes with cameras, it's the only way to be sure...
ISIS will claim the gold. They need it to print their own currency… The gold dinar coin :)
Polish law states that the train and all of its contents belong to the Polish Treasury..
Its IS....islamo secularist...Allllahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-Hohhot-eahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I am surprised that the Polish and Germans didn't just stay mum on it and it keep it for the coming economic shitstorm. Hmmmmm. I wonder what effect if any this will have on gold futures.
Now wait just a minute. I think I have the right perspective. Think about it:
Haven't we had three large "national" gold stock piles go missing in the last several years? Think Libya, Ukraine, and whatever sub Saharan nation was violated post Libya.
So this gold must be propoerly laundered in order that the banksters remove any future claims against it. How do you launder gold? Melt it down, refine it, cast it into bars with some real (or fake) Nazi serial numbers. Then you find an old Nazi train in some junkyard and dismantle it and refurbish all the pieces. Then you think of an old abandon tunnel and rebuild the train in there with all if the newly recast bars. Then you release a BS story.
Then it is announced that it is Jewish gold, but you know....not like Jewish Jewish gold....but like Rothschild Jewish gold......you know like banker's gold. Because after all....gold belongs to the banksters, even tht you may have buried in your basement.
Some of it might belong to the Bushes, but that is a looooooong story.
over a bunch of pet rocks!?
chanceis What are you on?
Home run, Chanceis.
a chair
Yeah, not very likely someone is going to find some ancient anonymous scrolls in a cave that say it belongs to Germany.
Down through history gold belonged to whoever could take it by force. So the biggest swinging dick will end up with
any hoard discovered. Pretenses are made, but ultimately might makes right, and the "Golden Rule" emerges,
and not the nice rule---but Mammon's rule. So fuck with the big gold bull, and you'll get the horn. We will continue
to pay defacto tribute to the "East" by allowing them to syphon off the shiney, but at some point civilization will
mean revert,(literally mean), and all those gold bangles will be coveted, and the storm troopers will be deployed.
Rome didn't maintain an empire as long as they did by being politically correct; they took it. We can tell ouselves
we are more evolved in our "world village", but the circle of time will revolve and human nature will devolve.
Plus 1+....Baal would be proud shistering these mortal fools...
Yeah, it isn't like some German officer or soldier would have spilled the beans about an entire train full of gold when some Soviet NKVD was about to blow his brains out.
And of course, after Nuremberg, when basically the entire surviving top Nazi leadership were about to be short drop hung on piano wire they would have never even dreamed of mentioning that train full of gold.
If there was any gold on the train or anything of value, it would be in Switzerland.
Jerusalem Post:
Any valuables found on a nazi train buried in Poland since World War Two must be returned to their rightful owners, the World Jewish Congress said on Friday.
"To the extent that any items now being discovered in Poland may have been stolen from Jews before they were sent to death ... it is essential that every measure is taken to return the property to its rightful owners or to their heirs," WJC head Robert Singer said in a statement issued in New York.
"We very much hope that the Polish authorities will take the appropriate action in that respect."
http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/World-Jewish-Congress-says-Nazi-train...
Hey spend more than what is on there and everyone gets rich.
Because no one else died in the second world war....
More Germans died after the war at the hands of the allies than jews died in the labor camps. All else is hollyweird/world jewish congress fiction.
Well I reckon Robert would be all for giving the land of Manhattan back to its rightful owners. Oh wait it was bought
with sheet music, so that was a ligit deal. Suck it Native Americans, your holocaust doesn't count, because you
didn't write your own book telling the world how entitled you are. Just make due with your casinos, fire water and meth.
Expect NATO troops on the scene to start stealing ASAP.
LOL, the world is so full of fairy tales.
It seems that train also contains many military documents. No wonder Jews around the world are getting panicked they might reveal the real truth about their 'Holocaust'
I hate to break it to you..Actually I don't...
The holocaust really did happen. You can listen and repeat the bullshit stories about it being propaganda, but there were enough witnesses. Additionally while Poland (and other countries) had lots of Jews before the war, there were hardly any afterwards.
What is not said in polite company is the populations of those countries do not miss them.
I don't disagree with you - at least not in essence.
But what is your best evidence of the 6 million figure and best evidence the Germans had gas chambers?
See one thing that is strange about Auschwitz, say, apart from revising the number down by 2 million [all Polish - amazingly!] and apart from Red Cross records which are completely ignored, is just how inefficient a design it is to kill a whole bunch of people.
I don't doubt a very large number of Jews were murdered and executed by the Germans.
I don't think the Nazis were anything but scum who needed killing.
But I think the 6 million figure *may* be mystical propaganda and horseshit.
The story we got about the Katyn Forest was sure horseshit.
So was the official story of 9/11.
I also think a heavily Jewish Bolshevik leadership killed far more Christians than Germans killed Jews.
NEVER believe the official story. I don't doubt the occurence of the Holocaust, but do doubt the official number of victims. That six million figure was being knocked around for decades before WWII.
You can argue about the total number of people killed. But the killing did happen. All over Ukraine, Belarus and occupied Russia there were killing fields as well where people were executed.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3205754/Blood-oozed-soil-grave-s...
Of course, many here will tell you that is all a hoax, a zionist conspiracy but ZH has become infested with neo-nazis and other anti-human scum.
You offer no evidence for your bullshit statements. Your fluoride poisoned brain, along with all the propaganda pounded into your head, combined with the thorough brainwashing you've experienced through your television has got you sounding like a broken record. You've been here 15 weeks. Could you at least show some respect and wait a little while before parroting the nonsense dribble you peddle?
The end of the rainbow has more gold than that invisible train....
The invisible train has as much gold as Fort Knox....
Where's Geraldo Rivera?
Why not an uproar to give back native Indian American land was that stolen, and many killed .... No Jewish Indians I guess.
There's only ever been one "genocide" that mattered.....real or imagined.
Keep your fingers crossed that this isn't going to end up being another babies in icubators media event or else we will be watching Schindlers List on repeat all the way through the Shmitah Jubilee... shit that would suck.
Planned Parenthood's doing one fine job without ovens. Just think of the volume .....
Was thinking that they'll open it on Christmas Eve to steal that holiday too.
Gold (if any) would have a distinct atomic signature from where it originated (was mined). If it has even the faintest signature of central or south america, the looted gold from there must be returned to the peoples of the point of origin.
I believe this story is a bit far fetched anyway.
Gold fingerprint
http://www.thomsonreuters.com.au/product/AU/files/91143/3593CHAP88A_prev...
What wonderful timing with everything else going on in the financial market(s) that this long sought after tomb after more than 70 years has finally been unearthed to be repatriated with the "owners"? One can only assume that would mean Germany???!
Wonder who will be running the inspection including verification of purity??? Will that be JP Morgan Chase" Or Goldman "Sucks"??? Can't wait to see the public display of all that Au with the assayer(s) lined up to prove it!
100 meters long and full of "shit"!
Maybe now Greece will revive war reparations ... Oh wait
I've asked here several times how much gold already exists above ground? Everybody dodges it. So multiple centuries elapsed and only 180K MT exist?
I can't say much gold "should be" worth in fiat without knowing how much phyzz exists.
The gold in the train is a metaphor. The truth about the holocaust(it didn't happen) will be hidden inside.
The installation of an on switch for your brain didn't happen either.
I can tell you have bought into the lies the Zionists(like 'white-power' and 'black panthers') have been telling you.
Seriously though you have been lied to. Do just a little bit of research and you will change your entire world view.
-OR-
Just wait for the train.
Gold worth about 9 billion, that doesn't even bail out a midsize bank.
Well, that is BEFORE Goldman creates some fancy financial "instruments" pledging the train as collateral, then, on top of it, a little derivatives here and there... presto! we are saved!
or .00000001% of the co-mingled gold.
They will find Hillary's private email server inside
Reports of large fire in that area, I guess those documents were worth more than the gold... One can only wonder what was written in those files if potentially 300 tones of gold was sacrificed...
I've heard tell some gold can combust spontainiously. The winds are blowing East today, Russians should be on the look out for rainstorms of gold.
Another distraction, nothing more.
indeed, but could spawn 1 or 2 very lucrative book deals. Lets get cracking, ZHers.
"proof of the train has been observed on radar."
Was it a flying train or maybe it was speeding?
Georadar genious ;)
Ground penetrating radar.
Yes stay away from the Gold Train - its filled with hazardous substances and booby traps made out of gold and silver.
Those ingots can be heavy, you could seriously hurt your back trying to lift and carry those.
Heh, gold prices should fall.
Putin should claim it.
IThe most interesting is if there will any valuable documents with WWII secrets, lost polish archieves and of historical value.
Gold would be great since Poland didn't recive any compensations from Germany for ruining POland and murdering millions of our citizens.
But that is mostly stolen stuff so everything what can be proved to be someones property will be given back. What Germans Russians or Americans aren't doing with all stuff stolen on Polish territory from Poles or from German theifs.
All the rest of valuable documents were robbed by either Germans and Russians when both started WWII and partitioned Poland or by Americans when they bitten Germans but stopped at it not wanting to set free rest of occupated territory and Poland under soviet occupation :(
They even killed Patton since he wanted to help Poland for which WWII ended on paper in 1989 in reality even longer since russian soviet troops were kicked successfully out few years later...
world war two had nothing to do with England or France caring about Poland or even worrying about Germany invading them.
This should be obvious from the fact the Soviets [Bolsheviks - largely Jewish led at that time] invaded Poland 10 days after the Germans... and nobody declared war on *them*
Put 2+2 together.
It was about economics and banking and the fact the Jews resented, naturally, having their wealth and power in Germany reduced.
Of course - even though only Jews have the "right" to "return" to "Israel" - they also, NATURALLY, have the "right" to live as a privileged minority anywhere else they please!
Oh - and advocate for replacement level immigration.
To question this is to wrestle with God Herself.
WWII was about one raving mad man going against another raving mad man.
All Jews were extremely wealthy and powerful: the office clerks, the shopkeepers, the housewives, their children, the farmers, the miners, etc. All of them, extremely wealthy and powerful. That most of them were were not living in mansions was just a cloak.
"With some exceptions among individuals, and with the exception of commercial transactions, Jewish communities in pre-war Poland largely functioned as insular, self-absorbed, elitist, and self-positioned "strangers" in Polish society. The gulf between Polish Christians and Jews was enormous; in pre-Holocaust Poland, for example, the intermarriage rate between Poles and Jews was only one per cent. This ethnic isolation was self-imposed by Jews from the earliest times of their residence in Poland. Most Jews consciously chose not to assimilate into Polish society, many could not even speak Polish, and few had friendly relationships with the non-Jews around them.
"In prewar Poland," notes Wladyslaw Krajewski, a Polish Jew, "... the majority of Jews did not regard themselves as Poles. Growing up for the most part in Jewish environments, they observed only the Jewish customs and religion, spoke only Yiddish at home, and generally spoke Polish poorly." [Krajewski, 96-97] Norman Salsitz describes growing up in a Jewish community in a Polish town and discovering that many Jews did not even know what the Polish flag looked like. [Salsitz, N., 1992, 73] In 1936, Jewish voting patterns in Poland (in their self-governing kehillah organizations) revealed a 38 percent vote for the Bund party (a group emphasizing a Jewish, as opposed to Polish, identity), 36 percent vote for Zionist lists (the return to Israel group), and religious Orthodox (religiously anti-Gentile) and "middle-class" groups at about 23 percent. [Gitelman]
Jewish self-segregation was the norm for most Jews of Eastern Europe. "Jewish separatism," notes Jewish author Eva Hoffman about Poland, "was also an active choice, and it also had its consequences. It meant that Jewish individuals and communities cultivated their own alienness, and that although they were willing to engage in contractual relations with the Poles, they did not wish to enter into a shared world with them." [Hoffman, 63]
Jewish fear of and disdain for Christians is reflected in this account by the best known Holocaust polemicist, Elie Wiesel, here describing his childhood in Romania:
[Christian] rituals held no interest for me; quite the contrary. I turned away from them. Whenever I met a priest ... I would avert my gaze and think of something else. Rather than walk in front of a church with its pointed and threatening belfry, I would cross the street. To see was as frightening as to be seen; I worried that a visual, physical link might be created between us ... All I knew of Christians was their hate for my people [Jews]. Christians were more present in my imagination than in my life. What did a Christian do when he was alone? What were his dreams made of? How did he use his time when he was not engaged in plotting against us?" [Wiesel, 4-5]
Reflecting similar disdain for Christians, one of Jewish novelist Max Shulman's characters in Potatoes are Cheaper recalls: "If [my mother] happened to see [a nun] on the street, she made a circle three times, said Shma Yisrael, and ran to kill a chicken." That isn't really fiction. Jewish mistrust of Christians and of Christian symbols often expressed itself as a literal physical revulsion, as Moshe Rozdial's account of his grandmother illustrates:
If I could be really honest, growing up around holocaust survivors, especially grandparents who had been part of village life in Poland, my clearest memory of anything that relates to churches was the way my grandmother would spit three times, you know, tu! tu! tu!, like in Fiddler on the Roof, to ward off evil spirits, every time she would walk past a church steeple. The cross has really been more a burden to Jews, than for Christians to bear. For my Bubbe, my grandmother, it represented the wrath of Satan, swooping down on a helpless people when they were not vigilant to warding off the evil eye. She saw Nazism as just another version of Christianity, hordes of Aryan barbarians, swooping down with their broken cross, to do the work that the church had laid the foundation for, for a thousand years.
I remember walking down the street with my hand in hers, feeling that tug and knowing, almost instinctively that if I look up I'd see a cross atop a roof, as she reflexively crossed the street to avoid walking directly in front of the church. Muttering, Nevelah! Nevelah! Do you know what that means? The impurity of the dead. Any dead thing. Any dead thing, that by Jewish law, could not be touched in any way, so as not to be defiled by spiritual purity. That's what Bubbe thought of the crucifix and ultimately, the church ... She'd spit three times, more if she was in a dark mood, and walk out of her way to avoid the site. The dead Jew on the cross was a Nevelah to her, a presence that has always defiled her life, Jewish life. A symbol of death and human corruptness, to my people. I know it's not politically correct to say these things to you. We Jews are always watching our tongues, when it comes to Christianity.
A yeshiva student, Rachmiel Frydland, recounts how it was growing up Jewish in the pre-war town of Chelm: "I had no contacts with Christianity at all. On the way to school we passed a Roman Catholic church and a Russian Orthodox church, and we spat, pronouncing the words found in Deuteronomy 7:26, ' ... though shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.' Why should we say such horrible words? The [Christian] people looked so pious. They came from surrounding villages to worship, and they never bothered us." [Frydland, 55]
[***Needless to say, the venerable Jewish tradition of spitting before Christian Churches and in the presence of the Cross did not endear Jews to their Christian neighbors. For further information, see (off-site) Israel Shahak's Spitting on the Cross. (Irmin)]
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The [Jewish] consensus which emerged (in the early periods of Nazi occupation) was the unanimous belief that only total submission to all the Nazi orders and industrious work for the Germans might offer chances of survival until the end of the war. The [Jewish] watchword was: "This is not our war; it's the war of the Poles against the Germans." All the Jewish problems were to be dealt with by the Jewish Council (Judenrat), headed by former Polish senator Adam Czerniakow and formed by Germany themselves. That doctrine of submissiveness remained in force for two years, during which the Jews in the ghetto did not ask the Poles for any help or weapons." [Korbanski, 44]
Korbanski's frank indictment the Jewish communists who filled the secret police agencies post-war Poland would also be offensive to anyone who accepts the myth of eternal Jewish victimhood. Korbanski writes:
To realize his plan of seizing total control of Poland, Stalin formed two teams: one to satisfy appearances and the Western Allies, the other to actually rule Poland. The first was headed by the Polish communist Warda Wasilewska and the other by Jacob Berman, who knew Stalin well. The choice of Berman was connected with his Jewish origins, which exonerated him from suspicion of Polish patriotism and advocacy of Poland's independence. Stalin regarded the Jews as cosmopolites, whose loyalties would be to Zionism rather than the country of their residence. [Korbanski, 73]"
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/poles.htm
to select one item, think the jews spitting thing is a myth {or maybe excuse it as resulting from all that perseuction, and not fundamentalist judaism's hatred of "idolatry" - the complete misunderstanding of how crosses and icons are used in prayer}
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/christians-in-jerusalem-want-j...
http://www.israelshamir.net/shamirReaders/english/Atzmon--To-Be-A-Jew-Is...
The Causes of Hostility Toward Jews: A Historical Overview
http://holywar.org/jewishtr/open.htm
here is an example of either a deliberate lie, or more likely revision caused by ignorance of Jewish fundamentalism.
http://religiondispatches.org/holy-spit-why-do-ultra-orthodox-jews-spit-...
it doesnt say anything about Jewish beliefs having contempt for "idolatry"
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4688289,00.html
http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/81117-150806-leader-of-israeli-anti...
For Jews to be the Eternal and Sacred Victim - they must not be blamed for anything, you see?
Even though their Torah and most of the Talmud was written before there was an organized Christian church, the hate for Christians in those tomes is just an expression of anger toward persecution.
Get it?
That is why they had to killed. All of them, right? Every single one of them. Cause they are all the same, right? Oh wait, the killings of course did not happen. All a hoax. German people are the real victim here.
Everything on board the train belongs holocausted jews and their descendents. Just hook a modern locomotive to it and pull the whole train to Tel Aviv.
Maybe it's just full of bagels.
Fuck them and their bagels.
Punch their doughnuts!
I'll bet that there are some Jewish gals that always wanted to pull a train.
It probably contains accurate concentration camp records.
Then it will be covered up for sure.
See....there is no cyanide residue ANYWHERE at auschwitz....not in the wooden doors, beams, door jams....etc.
Which is of course quite inconvienient for a certain narrative.
Squid
The whole narrative was cooked up by the bolshies after the war. Why would one gas their labor pool? Makes zero sense. Now not to say that using slave labor is right.
Why waste any resources at all to kill mass hordes of people that are locked in? Just don't give them water or clothing and leave them out in the cold. 3 days later most of them will be gone.
Leader of Israeli anti-assimilation group says he supports burning churches
http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/81117-150806-leader-of-israeli-anti...
Jewish supremacist: Burning churches legitimate under Jewish law
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4688289,00.html
To be a Jew is to Spit on something
http://www.israelshamir.net/shamirReaders/english/Atzmon--To-Be-A-Jew-Is...
apologia:
http://religiondispatches.org/holy-spit-why-do-ultra-orthodox-jews-spit-...
apologetics, of course, is primarily what the ADL does. "anti-Semitism" is the word when
1] a non-Jew questions disproportionate Jewish power; or
2] a non-Jew indicates some belief that Israel or some group of Jews, qua Jews, engaged in some act that was 'evil' - i.e. not defensive, not reactive.
So - if religious Jews spit on priests and burn churches - it's not because that is what a fundamentalist Jew believes he should based on his religion and its texts... no, there must be a re-imagining in which this behavior is, while lamentable, that of a VICTIM.
The Poles dealt with an insular and anti-Christian Jewish minority for centuries, mostly getting along, the regular people, but perpetually fucked by the Jewish elite {it is never 'all' or even 'most' Jews - ever, of course!}
The Polish saying "The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you" while absolutely crass and Trumpian, is only disingenuously and incompletely explained away as the question-begging 'because anti-Semitism'
Yes, but *why* anti-Semitism?
http://www.culturewars.com/2003/RevolutionaryJew.html
As an exploited GOY, I dream of ovens...
The smell of future burning lampshades in the morning..... It smell like... Victory!
Call me cynical. I'll believe it when I see it. It seems just too convenient to discover this train at a time when there will be a massive GOLD SHORTAGE due to the realisation of the SHEEPLE that the (WWPPS) World Wide Paper Ponzi Scheme is coming to an end and the need to get out of PET PAPER into PET ROCKS. _JOHNLGALT.
WHO IS JOHN GALT?
He's someone that has woke up and recognizes the kikes for what they really are and refuses to play along with their goy enslavement scheme.
Another Hollyweird Tomb Raider movie in the makings.
what's in it belongs to Russia... has the amber room in there...
Any valuable property found on Polish territory, belongs to the Polish Treasury according to Polish Law.
Grab your riff-raff and take a hike with your "belongs to russia" bs
A small two-seater Cessna 152 plane crashed into a cemetery early this afternoon in central Poland. Polish search and rescue workers have recovered 300 bodies so far and expect that number to climb as digging continues into the evening...
Would those guys from Kenya offering a quick buck by sending them money for a gold shipment have anything to do with this?
just sayn
Would it be possible to convert this to a European version of Mexico's Death Train? They could use it to haul all of the "migrants" from the ME and NA into southern Europe. The death train is working wonders here in the States.
David Duke honeytrap thread.
We'll now the real shit show begins as every Jew from Tel-Aviv to LooongIsland demands their cut! Time to lawyer up my Askenazi brethren
If there really is a train with tons of gold, it belongs to Poland.
Possession is 10 tenths of the law. They were ransacked in WWII, and here's some money under their soil.
It's theirs. Western bankers will end up with it, but technically it belongs to the Poles.
No! That is The World's Gold!
Signed Karen
I have to say, the armored train looks friggin awesome. German design and engineering once again triumph. LOL.
Put some leashes on the bankers and send them in.
"Holocaust" reparations incoming...
Even before the treasures are retrieved from the train, there are already clear winners. The lawyers. If there are indeed 300 tons of gold and stolen artwork on that train, it will be a litigation bonanza for some Israeli, Russian, American and E.U. legal professionals on one side and Polish ones on the other. Hollywood can be a winner, too, making a WW2 movie about the history of the train. By the way, from what I have read, Polish authorities have refused to guarantee 10% commission for the Pole and the German who found this train.
What do you call 10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea?
progress?
who gives a flying fuck
My gold train is 1/48th scale.
However, it too is booby trapped.
Don't fuck with it.
From 'pet rocks' to treasure to be salivated over all due to one dubious story.
This is beautiful. Free publicity for PMs.
I can't wait for a new Hitler episode on YouTube about this train...
Maybe Trump can buy it and use it to round up the illegals in east LA. Definitely going to need something armored to do it.
Have Obama open it.
IT DOES NOT BELONG TO ISRAEL. DO NOT LET THEM HAVE IT. THAT GOLD BELONGS TO THE POLISH PEOPLE!!!
the gold from millions of Jewish dental crowns is Polish?
ok, singn the zio song again is ya?
Take a breath brother!
The "Amber Room" from the Winter Palace in St. Petersburg, Russia, will be inside!!! *wreckless prediction of the week*
Well that explains why the U.S. is putting troops, er instructors, along with military supplies into Poland.
Non sequitur .... we got rid of our gold .... now, we want to refill Ft. Knox ?
The stupid Russians had 40 years to find it .... Stalin got all the Ukranian gold in 10 years or less .... torture works for them .... rewards don´t .... because you can´t trust them .... this is a good "Shit On Socialism" moment !
Well of course the Germans may have booby-trapped the railroad cars. I would be disillusioned if they did not.
Hitler may have had a serious kink about executing 'Non-Germans" but he had the Zionist Bankers on the Run.
The Zionists wrote the History of WW2. My father was there. I know it was not as portrayed in the movies. I am in Germany right now. I have learned a lot from the Germans.
The Nazis Were A Red Herring. The Master Plans of the Zionists were top-shelf.
The Germans have figured out how to control Europe using finance.
If you add Vlad kicking out he Kikes, we may have a chance.
Death to Zionism!!!
The Holocaust was a Zionist invention .... Israel could use those 6 million Jews right now ?
Breath for ALL!
I would love to see .... a train full of Muslim refugees .... disappear in a tunnel .... for 70 years ?
Why
Because he's scared of Muslims, because Bibi and Mordecai Murdoch told him to be.