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It's enough to make you cry... or scream.

 

 

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Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:03 | 6492028 HonkyShogun
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Way to much effort. Just be Mexican instead.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:13 | 6492061 Zirpedge
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Thanks HS, this thread missed the racist angle you deftly added.

 

The writer of this OP ED is a neophyte to real welfare whoredom. Look into Prima Don Trump's fathers past hustlin HUD money for organized cirme. It's always the street level game being trashed, as with this OP ED. Real investigators never look in the penthouse.   

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:20 | 6492095 BandGap
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WalMart and JPMorgan are making fortunes off of welfare recipients.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:36 | 6492151 KCMLO
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Don't forget Citi. They actually have the government load an unemployment benefit card in some states, which you then have to transfer into your own bank account after the fact.  Nothing like having a major bank sit on millions of daily government outflows for a day or longer just taking their cut.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:41 | 6492176 Zirpedge
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Bingo, thats a good racket. BofA was doing that to grandma milly in California, taxing their pensions.

How about all the farmland that is left fallow while the owners benefit from gov't farm subsudies, FOR DOING NOTHING, like some deadbeats. It's not illegal, it's just not in the "spirit of the law"

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:49 | 6492428 greenskeeper carl
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Dude you seem kinda confused. You act like because we get spun up about this article, that means we are OK with bullshit farm subsidies. And yes, I am 100% aware that warren Buffett and Goldman Sachs have stolen far more than any welfare mom or anchor baby. Trust me, the overwhelming majority of us know that. Ask nearly anyone on here, they will tell you that they want to rid the world of the single biggest driver of income inequality- the federal reserve. Most will also tell you they are unequivocally against any farm/oil/ solar subsidies of any kind, against all corporate welfare, and against bail outs. Our anger is not solely directed at the type of people mentioned in this post, it's against ALL of it. So no, we are not just picking on this one thing.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:57 | 6492451 falconflight
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Every facet of the American society has bought into the fascist model.  From 503 (c) 1 tax exempt status to tax subsidies (Not to equated w/ a deduction), to tax credits.  A flat tax will likely never receive a board consensus because so many want special dispensation from the State.  

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:05 | 6492485 Urban Redneck
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It's a start, but a flat tax doesn't address the gray economy, whereas a consumption based tax gets better penetration.  Moreover, incenting production over consumption (and equity over debt) are more desirable from a social engineering standpoint if you want to build a strong society.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:31 | 6492575 BKbroiler
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so fucking what?? We're worried about the people taking advantage of the system? What about the system taking advantage of the people?  Who the fuck shipped our jobs to China?, who turned pensions into 401K that get muppet raped? Who made rates 0% so saving, which used to be a fucking virtue, is now punished and you're bidding against goddamn BlackRock for a 200K house?  

Being married with a kid now costs 2K for family health insurance if you're self employed. Just. Health Insurance.  Add 2K to live in a house not in the ghetto. Add another 2K for EVERYTHING else if you're lucky, which means taking home 6K net, 8K gross, which is 96K/year, or twice the median income...   Yeah the people are really sticking it to the system alright.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:40 | 6492627 weburke
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there is no plan b
when the food stamp system goes down, 50 million will go full on riot,

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:05 | 6492742 TeamDepends
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Coming to a nightmare near you this fall.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:10 | 6492753 balanced
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Just rip the fuckin band-aid off already.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 22:15 | 6493325 Keyser
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The 7th and final stage of Empire is well under way in the USSA... It was nice while it lasted, but the fall is going to be fucking ugly... It will truly be Cowboys vs Zombies when the SHTF... Prepare accordingly... 

 

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 07:46 | 6494397 detached.amusement
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I stocked myself up, what else is there to do besides grab a pitchfork when the time comes

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 07:59 | 6494431 kralizec
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In the meantime, perhaps ending futile productive pursuits that feed the system and participating in its quicker demise is a strategy ripe for a big uptick in velocity, eh?

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:19 | 6492794 Richard Chesler
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Welcome to Obozoland!

It'z all hopey changey from here folkz.

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:52 | 6493205 BlindMonkey
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And hope and change will really fill the belly when either fried or grilled.  

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:11 | 6492758 centerline
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Overshoot is a motherfucker.

The sad truth is that there is no way out this.  It is just the end of the greatest expansionary era in human history.  Is time for a die off. 

The trick is to not get tricked into forgetting those who really preyed on society the most.  The real parasites wear suits.  The poor are just zombies.

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:12 | 6492999 acetinker
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Wonder if the maggots who reddied you have an actual retort?

Your first sentence pretty much sums up the whole clusterfuck, imho.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 22:01 | 6493250 centerline
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Truth hurts.  Fuck em. 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 22:49 | 6493489 S.N.A.F.U.
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#ZombieVotesCount

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 04:54 | 6493827 giovanni_f
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"It is just the end of the greatest expansionary era in human history." No. For the overwhelming majority on this planet it is the long-awaited flushing of the most parasitic, evil, dispensable nation ever.

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 09:02 | 6494628 centerline
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Sorry, but the parasites did what they did via "growth."  I agree that the flushing of parasites is long overdue.  But, the sad reality is that the world they have created is not sustainable as is.  Not just from a resource depletion standpoint... but, more immediately because the systems that hold it all together have been either created on fraud or in some way are dependent on fraud.  Dominoes.  The best possible outcome would result in less damage and destruction than the worst.  But, the real point is that there is no outcome without damage.  And, to make matters more concerning, to accomplish the best possible outcome would require cooperation and understanding (chance of this happening as a result?  yeah.... <crickets chirping>).

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 09:02 | 6494629 centerline
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Sorry, but the parasites did what they did via "growth."  I agree that the flushing of parasites is long overdue.  But, the sad reality is that the world they have created is not sustainable as is.  Not just from a resource depletion standpoint... but, more immediately because the systems that hold it all together have been either created on fraud or in some way are dependent on fraud.  Dominoes.  The best possible outcome would result in less damage and destruction than the worst.  But, the real point is that there is no outcome without damage.  And, to make matters more concerning, to accomplish the best possible outcome would require cooperation and understanding (chance of this happening as a result?  yeah.... <crickets chirping>).

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:42 | 6492635 Urban Redneck
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We got where we are by complexity for the benefit of preferred interests masquerading as compassion.  Unless the complexity is removed, the corruption cannot be removed, must less prevented, because there will always be preferred interests seeking favor from politicians.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:00 | 6492718 willwork4food
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It will be removed by necessity or by a rope.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:16 | 6492777 centerline
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system failures = riots = more system failures = more riots.  Then rope.  And then ?

Neccessity was an exit on this road that we past long ago.  Not just as a nation.  But as a species relative to our technology.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:55 | 6493220 BlindMonkey
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If this guy is accurate, in 10 years it will solve itself.  A 78% population reduction in the US will really get people off the dole.

 

http://www.deagel.com/country/United-States-of-America_c0001.aspx

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:11 | 6492759 New_Meat
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UR and will work 4 food:

The complexity won't be "removed".

Schumpeter will look down on the situation and say "well, that wasn't very creative, but destruction will continue"

- Ned

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 01:55 | 6494030 Triple A
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hence the reason no one is getting married or having kids these days. Thats one of the reasons i probably don't have either. That and i like the freedom.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:33 | 6492600 logicalman
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I'm not what you'd call a big fan of taxation.

The only reasonable(ish) taxes are excise taxes - at least you have a choice of whether you pay it or not, PLUS it's hard to get around. A lot of lawyers and tax accountants would be up shit creek as their loophole finding would no longer work.

No tax on food, clothing, housing or domestic energy - sliding scale from there - want a yacht? 3000% tax!

 

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 04:47 | 6494193 Farqued Up
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They already tried the elevated luxury tax the rich scheme. A shitload of people were tossed onto the streets. But you know best, I suppose.

ZH is getting tough, even people that wear suits are no good. I've seen companies that had dummies in suits that were weeded out, but one day maybe we will evolve to the point of tossing the ties. However, things will never devolve to the point of equality in the workplace, we'll all become Venezuelan paupers. Communism is really grand, a perfect system for a bunch of tenured professors.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:53 | 6492686 falconflight
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Consumption tax would be the most eqalitarian, haha, but without a Constitution repeal of the relevant Amendment, the pols could never be trusted.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:10 | 6492955 Harry Balzak
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Fuck taxes.  Set up a national lottery.  What does it pay for?  

1.  Salary for fed level elected representatives.  The salary is capped at the average american income.  

2.  One additional staffer for each rep, either a 'secretary' type or a security guard, but not both.  If a rep wants security, they can carry their own piece.  If they fear for their lives, well GOOD.  They're probably a sociopathic asshole anyway; just elect another.  

3.  Economy class flights to and from DC.  

4.  Dorm accommodations while in DC for the rep and his staffer.  Fuck their families; they can stay home.  

5.  Limit reps terms.  Once term is up, they get their salary til death, but NOTHING ELSE.  And, they can never hold a job again in the US for as long as they live. That's right, they, and their families, are NEVER permitted to work again in any capacity.  No influence peddling, no favors, no books, nothing.  

6.  Once these costs are covered by the lottery, the lottery STOPS and generates NOTHING MORE. 

The system has gone way beyond "governing by principle" and has become "managing by sentiment".  Sociopathic sophists can legitimize anything, and they've legitimized doing anything they want.  

Governing at the fed level should be about as interesting as watching a back-office clerk at the DMV.  Amend the constitution with these limitions  and make violation a treasonous offense.  

Fed reps should be dealing with nothing but adjustments to constitutional issues, maybe a couple a year, few of which should ever pass.  

 Some other changes:

Limit federal laws to a single 8.5x11 page, 10 pt font, single spaced, 1 inch margins, one side only.  If a principle can't be encapsulated in a page, it's not a principle.  

Impose a 5 year expiration on any federal law.  At the end of five years, it's got to be voted on again, only it must pass with a super-majority, and extends for no longer than another 5 years.  After the second 5 years, the process repeats, but renewal only occurs 3 times.  After the third time, the law is either expired for good, or the constitution is updated to accommodate the principle.  

In order for the constitution to be updated, the principle must be summarized in HALF of a page, and must meet an even greater super-majority (like 7/9th).  Make constitutional changes exceptionally difficult so they are thoroughly vetted and taken seriously.  

Lastly, once the funding for this system is covered by the lottery, the lottery SHUTS DOWN.  No more money for them.  It can be re-started for the next election. 

This system will result in representatives that are either stupid (because they think it's a good gig) or dedicated (because they'll give up everything for an almost powerless, shitty, short-term gig).  I don't think the stupid would stick with it because it would SUCK.  

 

 

 

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:51 | 6492910 cnmcdee
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Is there <anything> or <anyone> that is a honest business besides the slinky?

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 01:04 | 6493926 oooBooo
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We are indeed in fascist model. The welfare programs, obamacare, and so forth are patches on the distortions fascism causes and to extract more wealth for those with political power and influence. A flat tax will do nothing to fix this. It will make it worse because no piece of legislation can get passed unless in increases the flow of wealth to the powers that be.

 

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:58 | 6492456 Fester
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Wish I had a Va JJ

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:52 | 6492668 jaxville
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I have one and it came with it's own life support system.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:13 | 6492767 New_Meat
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Yo! Jax, so how'z dat workin' out for ya ;-)

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:17 | 6492784 centerline
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Very expensive and difficult to maintain.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:12 | 6493001 Harry Balzak
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Hope it's low mileage and dependable...

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:57 | 6493229 Ness.
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Dude loses 50% (probably more) as soon as he drives it off the lot ;)

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 05:22 | 6494230 Harry Balzak
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LOL!  That's cool, so long as it can be traded in after it's worn out.  

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:13 | 6492490 McMolotov
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The old ZH crowd hates all of the stealing, both by rich people and by poor people, because the old crowd is comprised mainly of libertarians and anarchists.

But the new ZH crowd, the people who've come here via Drudge links over the past year or so (and who cheer the loudest for Trump), think the welfare state is the only reason we're broke. The new crowd is comprised mainly of disaffected conservatives, and they ignore things like corporate welfare or Donald Rumsfeld saying the Pentagon misplaced trillions of dollars. In time, they'll see the bigger picture.

It's worth it to continue to point out to those folks that we got into this mess because of too much government and all that entails: not just social welfare, but also corporate welfare and misguided militarism around the world.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:26 | 6492578 greenskeeper carl
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McM, that's the truth right there, and what I was trying to convey. Don't even get me started on the trump nonsense

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:38 | 6492619 logicalman
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I've been around ZH for quite a while now.

I try to be constructive and informative in my comments and rarely up or down vote.

Every now and again, someond posts something that just forces me to be unpleasant and derrogatory, but I hope I succeed in keeping that to an absolute minimum.

I may not agree with you today, but that doesn't mean I won't agree with you tomorrow.

As for the dickheads, bset to just ignore.

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:51 | 6492672 saints51
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Dickheads are some of the best lunchtime entertainment I ever had. Don't stop posting, instead enjoy their lack of knowledge.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:10 | 6492754 willwork4food
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Ya gotta wonder: How can the head of the DOD say he "lost"  $2.1 TRILLION and not have some people go to jail?

UN.FUCKING.BELIEVABLE.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:36 | 6492856 insanelysane
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Dickens has a couple paragraphs in one of his novels where the people that "ARE THE SYSTEM" comment that there is nothing they can do because "THAT'S THE SYSTEM'.  He wrote that 150 years ago, 150 years, and it wasn't new then.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:04 | 6492965 willwork4food
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Kinda like..."but it has "electrolyes!" got it.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:13 | 6492998 Never One Roach
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I am not sure which "crowd" I'm in but I feel sodomized by both ends of the spectrum: the Wall Street bankers represented by Hank Paulson, Corzine and Mozillo at the top end, and the other end represented by school administrators, muni workers and various other parasites getting a $2-to- $11 milion pensions. The FSA is in there somewhere also.

 

So why not cheer for Trump; who else is there so far? Hillery 'tax and spend' Clinton? Jeb 'Iraq war was a success' Bush?

 

The only serious challange to Deez Nutts is Dem Balz and that's a long shot.

 

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 05:26 | 6494234 Tall Tom
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A vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil. Your vote only serves to legitamize the system.

 

The sad news is that the system is so far corrupted that it needs a new Disk Drive and Operating System.

 

There is no fixing it. There are NO SOLUTIONS and to legitimize it only serves to create even more corruption.

 

Trump is only interested in himself as he is an oligarichal narcissistic psychopath. He has no character or morals. NONE OF THEM DO.

 

You are forced to suckle upon Wall Street Bankers' and Military Industrial Complex penis while taking it up the ass by the Zombies...drinking their cum while not being able to shit it out.

 

Haven't you had a bellyfull yet?

 

And you want to vote for more of that?

 

I am fatigued by the "Let's vote for a Savior" club. Isn't that what selected the current faggot in chief?

 

Come on, man. Give me a break. The truth is that there are no solutions...NONE.

 

Opt out. Do not legitamize the system. Get out of the system as much as you can. Flee the evil of the system. Isolate yourself from the infected Zombies. Isolate yourself from the parasite classes. Stop your COMPLICITY.

 

It will collapse. That is a given. The best that you can do is to do nothing. (It is NOT illegal NOT TO ACT.) That just helps it to happen sooner rather than later, which is actually BENEFICIAL as it serves to minimize the damage..

 

Withdraw your Financial Support. Financial Support is SUPPORT.

Withdraw your Political Support. Political Support is SUPPORT.

Withdraw your Moral Support. Moral Support is SUPPORT.

 

Stop supporting the Wall Street Bankers and the Military Industrial Complex.

Stop supporting the Zombies.

 

Stop supporting it.

 

You are ENABLING IT. Stop your enabling. (Hell...Go to CODA Meetings if you are that codependent upon the sustanance of this current system. It is like a DRUG ADDICT on their way to destruction. They bring down EVERYBODY THEY ASSOCIATE with them when the collapse and hit bottom.)

 

Withdraw. Why play a losing game. It has been set up so that you cannot win. Since that is the case then do not play.

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 08:13 | 6494464 OneHorseCarriage
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Don't give up. Withdrawal is good, but don't give up.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 22:50 | 6493493 OzFan
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Because everyone up top is sucking everyones dick...the whole system is ruled by sociopaths......have a look back at Bushs inner sanctum....what a bunch of devious low lifes...the type who hate humans and love to abuse.....the rule of law is completely gone.....the system is completely broken and corrupted. Then you have the wickwiwicked Clintons or the shady-as Obama (his daughters do realize they daddy swings both ways right?)....oh and then there's all the jewish zio con pricks crowded around every fcking position of power.

As for the 2.1 missing trillions - yeh, GET THE FCK OUUTA HERE how nobody went to jail.....or the fcking UFO that hit that shithole Pentagon soon after.......you know, the USA needs a new revolution to clean house.

 

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 01:11 | 6493551 mvsjcl
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Because the money wasn't really "lost?"

 

@McMolotov

Hear! Hear!

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 01:10 | 6493941 TheEndIsNear
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Because Rumsfeld strategically  announced it the day prior to 9/11 because he knew his announcement would be quickly forgotten and buried due to all the coverage of 9/11. There are a great many other "strange" coincidences surrounding the demolitions of the three WTC buildings.

For instance, the Global Hawk cruise missle that hit the Pentagon destroyed that part of the Pentagon where the missing $2.1 Trillion was  being investigated.

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 13:59 | 6496036 sgt_doom
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I hope you're not effing everything up purposefully, and that you are just a cumbersome thinker by nature?

Negative, Rumsfeld or the Pentagon's comptroller, I forget now which dood said it on 9/10/01, didn't say it to be forgotten, it was the GO SIGNAL!!!

Got it?

No global hawk hit the Pentagon, it was Flight 77, and it took out almost the entire auditing team which had uncovered that unaccounted for $2.3 trillion in DoD funds.

A last-minute email was transmitted around 2:00AM on the morning of 9/11/01 for the auditing team (DIA's Financial Management staff) to attend a meeting situated in a conference room adjoining the Pentagon's west wall, which would be struck dead center shortly thereafter.

http://www.learnoutloud.com/Catalog/Politics/U.S.-Government/We-Were-on-Duty/15108

One lady member of that auditing team, who worked offsite, overslept that morning and therefore arrived late to find out about the meeting, zoomed over to the Pentagon just in time to observe Flight 77 (with several members of the planning team who designed a counter-terrorism scenario much like 9/11, and Ted Olson's third wife, who had overseen the "hanging chad" affair throwing the election towards George Bush in Florida, and a very attractive attorney with a well-connected law firm who was rumored to be having an affair with that law firm's partner, the law firm not only representing the Blackstone Group, crucial in the transfer of the WTC, and mortgage holder of record of Building 7, but was on the investigating staff into the explosion of Flight 800, etc.) fly into the Pentagon's west wall.

And, if you had been paying extraordinarily close attention, you would have noted (since nobody else appears to have) that between September of 2001 and a few months later, January of 2002, the Big Four investment firms assets under management grew by $2.3 trillion --- coincidence of coincidences (BlackRock, Vanguard Group, State Street and FMR LLC or Fidelity).

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:43 | 6492641 MayIMommaDogFac...
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I thought "Perverse Incentive" was the point of the article.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:49 | 6492660 saints51
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This website is loaded with confused individuals still on the red/blue team bandwagon. The sad part is they believe they understand the whole game. Still a grasshopper just don't tell them.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:50 | 6492666 falconflight
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I support Trump just because he is figuratively farting in the face of the Bush-Rove wing of the GOProgParty.  His presence has provided much needed levity to a party that needs to be hounded out of existence.  The other head of the beast needs to be impaled on a dull rusty pike, even if it requires millions of its sympathizers piled a mile high.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:55 | 6492682 saints51
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You are just fooling yourself. Trump is doing as told. Makes you talk about republicans. Think about it?????

If you know it is faux why even support it?

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:02 | 6492729 conscious being
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"Why even support it?" - Pssst, he's a zionist ideologue.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:19 | 6492798 falconflight
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Feck off PutinHasbraTrina.  Anyway, I'm a Constitutionalist ideologue.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:18 | 6492788 falconflight
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I can't say your assessment is incorrect.  Again, I'm enjoying the GOProgs up in arms, and my assessment is that the GOProgs are distressed by Trump's presence in their dog and pony show.  He might be a DemPerv strawman, I don't know and actually I don't care anymore.  

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:28 | 6493070 Harry Balzak
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I'd vote for a quarter before a human.  At least a quarter will vote "no" 50% of the time.  

All the humans, with the exception of maybe Ron Paul, actively pursue some level of state intervention is damn near everything.  It's just different flavors of authoritarianism and/or fascism.  

I'm under no illusions; it would fix nothing.  The leviathan is so entrenched it can never be signficantly altered.  Only the rate of expansion can be reduced.  

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 23:18 | 6493611 saints51
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And if I may speculate further, this is why you think Trump is kinda cool. You don't care anymore. He is rocking the boat to a lot of gullible people who are desperate for change. I can assure you he is doing exactly what he is told. It is a movie and he is playing the rebel. Last movie had Ron Paul as the lead rebel and I bought into him at one point until I realized he was full of shit.

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 06:44 | 6494307 saints51
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case in point to the down votes. They still believe Ron Paul would have saved them. I am truly astonished at the low IQ level of individuals, yet were able to find a blog like ZH which is against the system. My question to all of you is why care if you are not willing to SEE it is all lies? No man or woman will save you.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:54 | 6492692 Usurious
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welfare/warfare are symptoms of a debt money monetary system.....the system is working exactly as planned..........stop complaining..........THE DEBT MUST GROW.........

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:08 | 6492743 daveO
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Exactly. Whenever a fiat currency is first issued, anywhere, the countdown clock begins on it's demise. They all die the same way, of course. Too much issuance. The growth of private debt ended in 2008. Thus, DC has doubled US debt since then to fill the gap, petal to the metal! The dollar is a dead man walking.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 22:17 | 6493337 Usurious
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trav7777 sums it up nicely here..........

''lol...it doesn't matter!

Rates are trying to rise because the ENTIRE CREDIT EXPANSION SYSTEM is in de facto default right now!

The FUTURE is the counterparty to the present in such a system.  The future is of contraction.  Therefore, the future is a deadbeat, insolvent, in default.  People are trying to extract more interest as "coverage" but at the same time NOBODY is interesting in borrowing to PAY that interest!

The Fed is forced to pay the coupon required by the credit base.  All this does is dilute money as debt is TRYING to discount itself to reflect reality.

The truth is that they can set the price of debt as they see fit.  The real world cannot cause the growth that is interest owed on today.

Gold is rising for 2 reasons, the first is that its production peaked 10 years ago.  The second is that in recognition of the impending obsolescence of debt-based paper claims, there is an increasing trend toward grabbing something that physically exists.  The future is in backwardation.''

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/bill-gross-why-we-are-witnessing-death-abundance-and-why-gold-becoming-default-store-value

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 23:02 | 6493543 Radical Marijuana
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Correct,

Usurious!

Civilization necessarily operates according to the principles and methods of organized crime, which casade down in fractal patterns.

Overall, in absolute magnitude all the welfare is relatively trivial compared to the warfare. The petty forms of organized crime, such as outlined in the article above, are insignificant compared to the many orders of magnitude greater triumphant organized crime that has made and maintained the social pyramid systems. The article above was typical Zero Hedge fare, in that it was superficially correct, but also profoundly wrong. An essential political problem is the degree to which the biggest and best organized gangs of criminals (governments controlled by banksters) get away with publicly presenting themselves as if they are not what they are. Furthermore, around that core of organized crime are surrounding layers of controlled opposition, which also stays within the same frame of reference of false fundamental dichotomies and the related impossible ideals. Promoting impossible ideals actually makes the opposite happen in the real world, which is how and why controlled opposition groups are allowed to present relative good, albeit superficial, analysis of the problems, as long as they then conclude with bogus "solutions" based upon the same old bullshit dualities.

What is deeply mistaken is to think that civilization could somehow ever stop being based on the principles and methods of organized crime. Understanding that might enable the development of better dynamic equilibria between the different systems of organized lies operating robberies. However, the actually existing systems are based upon almost everyone being professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, while those who are the biggest and best at that dominate the established social systems that they made and maintained.

Lower levels of people inside those systems of DEBT SLAVERY BACKED BY WARS BASED ON DECEITS adapt in ways that were indicated by the systems of incentives that operate within those systems. Of course, it would be better to change such systems of incentives. However, it is a red herring to think that changing those in the lower levels matters as much as changing the systems of incentives that operate in the higher levels.

The perverse systems of incentives that operate throughout the increasingly financialized FIRE sectors are many orders of magnitude WORSE than the perversities which can be shown to exist in the lower levels, such at outlined with the example presented in the article above.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:02 | 6492722 chunga
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Good to see you back McM...I thought you might have got captured. You're right about the new zh'ers. I've got this bad habit of watching the blue/red team believers. DU never has ZH links but FR has them all the time. I'm sure they're yakking away about this one right now.

Corporate welfare articles, militarism, goldman sachs and anti-semitsim...nah...never. To them, every single problem in the world stems for a "liberal" and can be fixed by a "conservative". Whatever the hell that means.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:18 | 6492790 New_Meat
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Mick-burn-baby-burn"

"The new crowd is comprised mainly of disaffected conservatives,..."

Actually not in my analysis: the new crowd is not at all conservative at all.  That would be "AT ALL"!!!

Perhaps you could list those newbiez who you think are disaffectected conservatives?

I ain't seein' any conservatives in the mix.

Please Advise!

- Ned

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:22 | 6492803 WhackoWarner
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Do people south of 49th not have the ability to think?  Come one.  Time has run out. Bubble wrap you morality and responsibily in the USD$....Come on.  Push has come, truly to shove.

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 04:29 | 6494181 newdoobie
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I'm in the new croud, from a drudge link a while back. Have always considered myself more of a liberterian and fell in here like jumping in a cool pool. The comments here have made me do my "American History" on multinationals, the Fed, and my fav, slimy politicians. I introduce as many people as I can to this site!

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:11 | 6492501 Dutti
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Mostly the problem is about "big government" that gets involved in everything. However, all the gov. drones administering these programs have a well paid job. More programs means more jobs. Who pays?

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:24 | 6492807 WhackoWarner
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Oh go write a paper or blog somewhere.  Feel important. Be my guess.  You will accomplish nothing.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:22 | 6492564 Oldwood
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Its not the money. The real cost to theft is not the monetary loss, it is the moral corruption that follows if no one is held accountable. This is true from on high where we see people making millions if not billions scamming the system, and we see it at the bottom with the welfare cheats.

What matters is that the corruption creates huge disincentives for anyone to engage in otherwise productive activities...like work, or investing in real businesses. This is what is killing our economy.

NO PRODUCTION.

Every fucking thing is sustained with debt. Every government slush fund to pay off cronies. Every corporate merger and IPO. Every consumption good or service in the country is sustained by ONLY one thing, and that is more DEBT. Debt is hiding the result of this corruption and in doing so is actually exacerbating it, making even more want to surrender to it, lie cheat and steal to get ahead or just survive...and debt lets it all happen. We borrowed money to buy imported goods because our jobs didn't pay enough to buy American, so now your American job has just been sent to China. But hey! They will loan you $80k for eight years to buy a new Lexus, so all is good, right? Meanwhile another car plant is moved to Mexico....an American car plant. Like Billy the Poet says, we shouldn't be shamed into buying American just because we aren't willing to work at Mexican wages. Debt is the drug that we have become addicted to, a drug that makes us believe we can fly, defy gravity, to the point where we find ourselves on a forth floor balcony thinking of making the leap. I mean why not? We don't need no stinking jobs.

Its not the money. Its the debt that deludes us into the self destructive spiral of something for nothing.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:12 | 6492763 daveO
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Always get the best price, regardless of origin. Pay cash, no debt. Debt is doubly toxic in a deflationary environment. Use the savings to buy real money while it's on sale.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:55 | 6492930 Oldwood
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So we should only hold business people and politicians morally accountable and the rest of us just go for the bucks...right?

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:56 | 6492934 orez65
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"... the world of the single biggest driver of income inequality- the federal reserve."

Exactly, we abolish the Federal Reserve, a private company, and "fractional reserve banking" and our economy self corrects.

No need for a balanced budget ammendment, term limits ...

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 22:26 | 6493370 rtinder
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You're an uninformed hater of farmers and their political influence. First of all there are no farm subsidies today because CORN is 200% over the deficiency payment level. When corn was selling for $1.50 a bushel, gov't set a floor of $2.75 a bushel. Its' complicated (gov't of course) but when the avg price of cron was less than the floor price, there was a formula that would provide a subsidy payment to keep the farmer in business. Historically our politicians controlled the price of corn so their constituents could put food on the table. Cheap food has always been the goal of gov't. Then corn rocketed to $8 (dropping back to $4 as we speak) and now there are no subsidies being paid. As for fallow ground, the reason ground is PLANTED AND MAINTAINED BUT NOT HARVESTED is to protect the environment, such things as chemical runoff and top soil errosion for instance. Farmers could actually farm the ground and realize much more income than is paid by the USDA to maintain a cover crop. I know because I have a few acres in conservation programs that help our waterfowl and game bird populations thrive.  Know what you're talking about before you spout off. 'Fallow' ground requires work and expenses to maintain.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:22 | 6492322 JRobby
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Chase in it big too.

Of course the big banks would get a piece. They own the process.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:38 | 6492160 toady
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Damn it! They're on to me!

Better start working on the next scam...

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:42 | 6492178 JRobby
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Even with a half way decent coment, you still get flamed.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Creeper

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:56 | 6492222 Zirpedge
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Thanks, I think.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:07 | 6492271 Sanity Bear
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Requirements for posting on ZH and not being bothered by negative feedback:

 

- tough skin

- sense of humor

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:28 | 6493086 logicalman
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That's what keeps the place worth visiting.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:23 | 6492325 JRobby
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I'm neither up nor down with it.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:36 | 6492382 markpower49
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Normal middle-class chumps are so beta they allow themselves to be tax donkeys. They deserve to suffer and pay lol.

They also get discriminated against for being a white man. Affirmative Action is alive, and blacks continue to wage war against white society.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:31 | 6493103 large_wooden_badger
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Heehaw motherfucker

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:41 | 6492401 falconflight
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Once you raised the "racist" OneParty meme, you lost ALL cred and actually you should self deport for the next 365 days.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:17 | 6492536 WhackoWarner
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Yeah and blah blah blah.  Do a similar analysis of the "hand that has given billions" to the beggars on Wall St.; the beggars in your politics and judicial systems.

 

That is where is has not been truly Op-ed'ed.   And "they" have the nerve to sneak in protection for derivative casinos.  To ask for more with no penalty for any illegality,

 

That should make the American people cry and scream.

It may be quite true, this breakdown.  So where do you draw the line? In the Hamptons hand-outs?   or the people who are using loopholes to survive? 

 

Who wrote this piece of one-sided crap?

 

 

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:39 | 6492622 Blankenstein
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Zirpedge is a troll.

 

 Fri, 05/01/2015 - 11:30 | 6050726

 

Zirpedge

Not sure what market you guys are loking at or what your basic comprehension of supply v demand is. The scarcity due to "Nothing left to buy" will continue to raise prices. Everywhere I look, I see the thick green stocks of a healthy recovery. The efforts of FED policy over the last few years have been a complete success and it's time for them to step back and watch this economy stand on it's own two feet. A proud moment.  

 

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:13 | 6492768 falconflight
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either that or heshe's (trying to fit in with the brave new world) sarcasm is particularly wry.  

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:33 | 6493115 logicalman
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MDB's been giving lessons in /s, I think!

This guy's still learning but could master it with a bit of effort!

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:11 | 6492995 midtowng
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Anyone that believed that article also believes that Planned Parenthood sells fetuses because they read it on Facebook.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:43 | 6493166 Yohimbo
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if you havent noticed people have had it with hearing and caring about what you percieve as racism.

1968 called, he said jessee jackson is looking for a room mate

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 08:53 | 6494576 Astraea
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According to Ellen Brown - at webofdebt.com    Donald Trump would be at least useful in te White House because  he knos exactly how to get out of debt free.      He has done so himself FOUR TIMES.      

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 13:17 | 6495866 sgt_doom
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I in no way or manner mean to suggest I agree with, or would ever support, such vile and criminal-like behavior, a microcosm of that which is seen at the bankster/hedge fund/corporate level daily.

Take the long-term numbers:  salary and pay as percentage of the GDP has been steadily falling, while the portion of the tax base which it makes up has been steadily rising, since an ever greater number of American corporations refuse to pay federal taxes and receive more and more money back from the government, in the form of neverending tax breaks, including a payout for each and every American job they offshore!

So they are shrinking the tax base by refusing to pay taxes, manipulating the tax code so they receive more and more money or payouts from the federal government, while shrinking the jobs base which makes up two-thirds of the tax revenues yearly (or at least it did the last time I checked).

GET THE BIG PICTURE?

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:12 | 6492064 aint no fortuna...
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And yet 99% of Americans will read that, get outraged, say they'll never vote for a repug or a dim ever again, and then in the privacy of the voting booth in 2016 they look deep into their soul and vote the same fucking party line they have been voting their entire life because MY political crime syndicate isn't as bad as YOUR political crime syndicate.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:16 | 6492079 Zirpedge
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Our social welfare programs are just enough to pacify the public. $75k a year in benefits is not living well, factor in cost of living and it's basically a third world existence. 

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:22 | 6492106 csmith
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"...$75k a year in benefits is not living well..."

And exactly why SHOULD it be, for doing nothing ???

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:36 | 6492155 Zirpedge
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The real crime is the zero growth society that has been planned for us. Meanwhile the gamers of the political and economic systems explot the welfare dole all the same. We have most profiable industries paying ZERO taxes while middle class earners carry the burden of the less fortunate who are the subject of your ridicule. I think you should be corretly targeting the planners of our zero growth society and not the easy targets, the less fortunate. What would you propose they do for sustainence? Get exploted by a for profit prison system in a land where it is illegal to be homeless?

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:32 | 6492359 greenskeeper carl
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I don't know where you love that 75k is third world, where I live near the east coast of central FL, that gets you an 1800 sq ft 3 bedroom in a decent neighborhood, 2 reliable(plain , not flashy) cars or SUVs, allows money for good food, provide for a family of four, and still allows you to save a decent bit as long as you live within your means and don't blow money eating out and on expensive but totally unnecessary shit.

Trust me, I can tell you with 100% certainty

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:28 | 6492583 Oldwood
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Have you included a rabid drug and online gambling addiction? I mean we have rights after all.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:12 | 6492765 willwork4food
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and a man needs a few prossies. I mean, really? Isn't that my right?

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:34 | 6492367 stewie
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-1 for stating 75k/yr in BENEFITS is third world income.  That's just silly.

+1 for pitching in with the or private prison industry.

-1 for advocating higher corporate taxes.  Corporations don't pay taxes they price it in.  Eleminate it all and level the playing ground.

+1 for identifying the real culprits.  Fix that you fix every  thing else, or at least make it possible to do so.

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:45 | 6492418 TungstenBars
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"We have most profiable industries paying ZERO taxes while middle class earners carry the burden of the less fortunate"

"exploted by a for profit prison system in a land where it is illegal to be homeless"


+1 for pointing out that there are rackets much worse than unwed mothers abusing a handout system

 

Say what you want about people abusing handouts. Yes it's unfair, but there some shit in this country that stinks much much more than that. 

 

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:27 | 6492120 nyse
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You, sir, are a goose.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:42 | 6492181 Zirpedge
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I like your scary avatar juxtaposed by silly words.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:45 | 6493173 Yohimbo
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juxtaposed eh, I smell a goo brained art student libtard

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:32 | 6492140 jcaz
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Million Dollar Bonus,  nice to see you back!   Fearlessly Clueless Since 2007.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:43 | 6492182 Zirpedge
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Not him, thanks

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:39 | 6492387 falconflight
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So then the ones who "earn" 75k per annum should get a get out of jail free card after they decapitate (bag their limit) those filthy greedy so called po folks.  

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:27 | 6492580 WhackoWarner
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I am not familar with taxes in US.  This op-ed breakdown may be very accurate...but does not mention beyond tax credits.  Not final tax owing,

 

So take a couple, 2 kids and 75K?   Not much to go around if and when any taxes on the "income" is assesed.  BUT that said I sure would wish someone paid my utilitiy bills.  Cell phone gets thrown in the nearest river.

 

Can you blame any normal shyster for taking advantage of any loophole anywhere that makes him/her less of a victim?   (and I do not agree, People should work for their livlihoods..)  I do not condone freeloading but why jump on someone who can figure out the paperwork in this case?  AND HAND OVER THE CROPS, THE FARM, THE PROFITS, THE CONTROL, THE PRESTIGE?  to the idiots who took the country down this road?

 

You, op-ed guy/gal, are telling me that this "couple" taking advantage is somehow a pariah,  Yet you worship friggin Dimon and Holder and the kids.  

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:57 | 6492938 fiatmasochist
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75k taxfree

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:33 | 6493114 large_wooden_badger
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Holy shittake mushroom you must be joking, right?

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:36 | 6493129 logicalman
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Some people are for sale, others not so much.

That goes all the way from the bottom to the top.

Interesting thing is the proportion of those who are for sale who are at the 'top'!

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:13 | 6492065 Barry Mckokiner
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Actually Honky Mexicans do work. They line up to work in Home Depot parking lots. Americans line up for welfare, and cry about working Mexicans taking thier jobs.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:19 | 6492088 Zirpedge
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I know unemployed americans that are too lazy (or full of misplaced pride) to claim their public bennies.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:19 | 6492090 HonkyShogun
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And the healthcare fairy takes care of their anchor babies gratis, I'm sure.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:47 | 6492189 Zirpedge
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Your almost getting it HS. The cost of healthcare is directly correlated to this type of public dole. Hospitals can charge $1500 for an apspirin because of the Government Assistance and Health Insurance rackets that don't negotiate market rates. It's the same with the cost of higher education, if everyone can get a loan from uncle sam, there will be a distorted demand and the costs need to go up to fend off all the easy money.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:21 | 6492551 Miffed Microbio...
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When a high percentage of people pay nothing for their care, the rest that do must pay an excess to fill the gap. I've worked at a public hospital and seen it in action. A twenty dollar copay was asked for in the ER and they quickly learned they could say they couldn't afford it. Then you would see them with rolls of cash in the cafeteria.

What other business is there where you claim inability to pay and you receive the goods free of charge? What business could survive long term with this model? Since Obama care supply costs have skyrocketed. More illegals pour in demanding care. The math is simple. This " market" is beyond broken.

Miffed

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:39 | 6492623 55 men
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Then there is the stupidity of these people....like this weekend...wife gets called late at night because there childs tooth hurts and he is swollen, so wife calls in an anitbiotic because you cant get numb when there is swelling....get a call early the next morning and the parent says child is still swollen , wife says...did you give him the antibiotic,...they say no because it was RAINING...wife absolutely shit a brick on these people....i could rant about this shit all day because when the wife is on call, it is 24/7 calls of completely ignorant, lazy, retarded parents

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:25 | 6492810 willwork4food
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My wife is a pre/post op BSN at a large hospital. She brings home stories of people that are so overweight it is a struggle for two people to help them. Blame it on diabetes, McDonald's or too much pepsi & fries? I have no idea, but after I passed 295lbs I might begin to get worried.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:58 | 6492942 cynicalskeptic
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I had a knee replacement at 55.   Ran track and cross-country, spent a good part of my life hiking and have rehabbed houses for most of my life as well.   In rehab I saw countless people who had surgery paid for by gov refusing to do therapy.  Some were old, some were morbidly obese (I didn't even know there were such a thing as double wde wheelchairs).   The thing about a knee replacement is that it's pretty pointless if you don't do the therapy - and (being blunt) the therapy is hard and hurts like hell.  But if you don't do it you don't get proper range of motion and use of the knee replacement.

Now my knee needed replacement from injury and serious wear and tear.  But the 400 lb types had it done because human knees aren't made for that kind of load.  But those people wouldn't do the therapy - and sure as hell didn't show any interest in losing any weight.    

Spending tax money on such cases - for the surgery and then for the top flight therapy which the peopel don't do - is a total waste.  But look at all the ads on TV.... you can get a Rascal scooter.... diabetic suppleis, and on and on and on.......

WAAAY too much goverment spending is totally wasted because it's spent on ppeople who don't care and never will.  It doesn't cost them anything personally and the medical system makes a tone of money off them.

The same goes with too many other benefits.  We waited a dozen years to have kids - worked hard at educating them and raising them right and put them through good colleges, preparing them for life.   We did what - in theory - you are SUPPOSED to do and produced exceptional kids who are bright and accomplished.   In contrast a sil married badly, divorced, was on welfare for a time, collecting all kinds of benefits.  Her daughter married, divorced and is raising a kidshe didn't even know she was pregnant with for 6 months (partying all the time - great pre-natal care.....)   She's dumb as a rock - no college - works minimum wage ut gets a ton of aid.......She was rewarded for BAD choices in life.   WTF?

In contrast we did everything 'right' and got 'screwed' - paying full freight for college because we saved and have done well.  Our income is salary so we pay max in taxes..........

 

Tue, 09/01/2015 - 05:46 | 6494255 Tall Tom
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They will be amongst the first to die after the Financial Collapse.

 

The sick, the elderly, the weak, and the children will be hit the hardest.

 

It is very sad. But it is an eventuality.

 

That means that many that you personally care about will not live this through to see the other side. (Most likely I will succumb to it as well. I am ready for whatever fate has in store.)

 

You must be emotionally prepared to accept that sad fact.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:33 | 6492601 WhackoWarner
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This was predicted decades ago,  As populations were crushed, bombed and turned to slaves for the beneift of the few.....migration would occur on an unprecedented scale.  People tend to go where desparation takes them.

So it is tit for tat and "You reap what you sow"...  Anchor babies?  What the F did you expect when you allowed your country to act immorally and globally as a parasite?

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:22 | 6492103 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Good for them, why can't they work hard in mexico instead?

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:26 | 6492336 Ms. Erable
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...and take the 6-8 other mexicans living with them, all the while collecting their welfare/Sec8/WIC gubmint cheese, back over the fucking border. I give a shit how 'hard' one of them may work when the rest of the family is stealing from the public coffers.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:36 | 6492612 WhackoWarner
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Preciselyy why are you up in arms regarding this and not storming the frigging Bastille in Washington DC and Wall Street?

 

Catch a jay walker and let the mass murdering psychopath off? 

 

Sure hope your "portfolio" is up buddy.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 22:32 | 6493405 Ms. Erable
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Maybe because, in my 50+ years in California, I've seen my home turn from a fairly nice place to live into a third-world shithole due to endless boat- and busloads of unassimilated foreigners with their hands out, beginning with the mexicans, vietnamese in the 70's, Koreans in the 80's-90's, Chinese beginning about 15 years ago, and even more fucking mexican freeloaders during the whole fucking time period.

As to the other part... if you're so up in arms about temporal evil, why haven't you gone to hell to vanquish Satan?

Jackass. GFY.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 17:39 | 6492165 Sudden Debt
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Honestly?! If You read it, it sounds like your Utopian Socialist paradise!

It's almost like you need to be stupid to work!

70k a year?!?!

Why not put up a big neon sign on the statue of liberty that says "garage sale!"

70k?

Do you know how hard most people need to work for that?

Put up with a jackass boss?

70k?

Why not? A single woman with 1 kid is a asset these days on dating sites.

Man o man... we're doomed. Same shit over here in europe, they don't get 70k but their benefits andnhousing comes up to 1800 euro's a month, and that's thsame as a wroking slave.

Man... I worked all my life... I've been tired... stressed out... I worked for'every penny twice.

And all those people who just profit and do jack shit... it makes me sick you know...

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:24 | 6492331 rbg81
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On TV, "The Walking Dead" is all the rage.  Silly sheeple.  You will see the REAL Zombie Apocalypse once the $$ runs out and the EBT cards stop working.  It will be chaos, but the Welfare crowd will be easy to pick off.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:35 | 6492378 falconflight
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Finally, someone sees the silver lining.  Only half kidding

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:36 | 6492383 greenskeeper carl
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While I confess to watching that show, I have pointed out that very same thing to my wife on several occasions. Honestly we would be a lot better off with the walking dead kind of zombies than the kind you describe.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:46 | 6492419 markpower49
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Zombies = blacks and progressives. Head shots save ammo.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:51 | 6492432 falconflight
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Long pikes...

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:43 | 6492576 rbg81
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My strategy?  Put up signs promising "Free Shit".  They, when enough of 'em congregate around it--BLAMO!

Of course, some of them can't even read....so I'll have to develop a Free Shit logo that even an illiterate moron can understand.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:10 | 6492496 Miffed Microbio...
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I'm tired and stressed out too. I make 102k/year and don't see one penny of it. All goes to state, federal, property and sales taxes and fees. We live on my husband's income. I'm the official tax donkey.

One of these days I will exit this farce when the time is right and these lazy parasites can figure out how they can survive without the fruits of my labor. When enough of the productive do this, the system will brake. Frankly, at this point in my life I don't give a damn.

Miffed

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:56 | 6492933 de3de8
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Break?

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:09 | 6492986 willwork4food
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right on Miffed!

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:06 | 6492973 New_Meat
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Hi Miffed: u kin move outta' Cali and have a chance.

But I'd say u are a mighty fine tax donkey, if I might say that ;-)

Dee Dee Mao, don't cha' know.

- Ned

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 21:15 | 6493012 Miffed Microbio...
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Dats my plan! There's a 100 acre family farm waiting for us in WA. The sad thing is many farmers in the area have sold out and creepy Cali condos and McMansions have crawled their way nearby. Egads! Only to escape and land in a den of them. I must has some sinking bad karma.

Miffed;-)

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:22 | 6492557 cherry picker
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Between salaries and pensions paid to civil servants, being overly generous as in the situation noted above, 'American Citizens' gaming the system and this oversize military and snooping/spook organizations, they are really what is breaking America's back and these people do not want to 'work'.

I worked in the fields when I was young and did again last year. I am caucasian.  When I drove past farms in California, never saw a white guy out there, they were all Mexican or Latino.

The American Socialist/Commie regime has gone too far in everything.  Washington is like the Caitlyn Jenner show, no one knows what they are doing but want the big bucks and entitlements as well as playing Ashley Madison during working time.

I would say there is a problem.

 

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 20:32 | 6492832 yogibear
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When you see HS teachers, firemen and cops making  $150,000/yr or over, with $100,000 plus pensions you know it all messed up.

Try to mess with the Ace card (clause in he state constitutions)  they have guaranteeing pensions they were promised.

You even have University and Jr college heads gaming the system.

It's one huge free-for-all System

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:42 | 6492634 WhackoWarner
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This is exactly the meme that is being set up.

 

Let us scapegoat blame amongst the workers.\

 

Never blame the fucks who are pulling the strings.  This is a set up.

 

I, too, have worked and saved for every eroding dime.  But I will not go to emotional war with the majority of the human race in a blame game that has been a set up from the get=go.

 

You are angry with the wrong people my friend.  Does not mean you are not right about laziness etc. Not at all.  Your exploding anger I think is aimed at the wrong target.   Hope and change?  Yeah right.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 18:21 | 6492270 NikoBellick
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Pretty simple solution in my opinion. Build the wall, have it patrolled by drones. Deport every single illegal no matter where they hail from. Put a moratorium on ALL immigration for a few years. Now, cancel ALL public benefits for all but the truly disabled and watch how quickly jobs like picking fruit and construction become appealing. Plus I would imagine wages would rise due to the need for employees.

Mon, 08/31/2015 - 19:44 | 6492645 WhackoWarner
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Well maybe make work for dignity criteria to benefits.  Seems like there is a shiteload of opportunity for people to get up and actually do something that benefits society,,,in order to get benefits from the society.

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