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Rewriting The Rules - Trump's Rise Is Unprecedented
In May, when the Register last polled, 27 percent of likely Iowa GOP caucus-goers viewed Trump favorably while 63 percent regarded him unfavorably.
In the new poll, which was released Saturday night, Trump's favorable number is at 61 percent and his unfavorable at 35 percent.
As The Washington Post's Chris Cillizza exclaims,
"In the almost 20 years I have spent following politics closer than
close, I've never seen anything like the total reversal in how Trump is
perceived by Republican voters. It is, quite literally, unprecedented."
The Trump candidacy has rewritten - or at least smudged - lots of the rules of conventional politics. He says things that would derail other peoples' candidacies. His shyness about specifics on, well, anything would be seen as a lightness bordering on cluelessness in other candidates. His pick-a-fight-a-day mentality would be seen as overly aggressive and tonally off if anyone else in the field did it.
But, of all the amazing things that Trump is doing - whether he realizes what it is he is actually doing - his ability to totally turn around his image is the most remarkable. It's not something we've seen before.
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It's different this time...
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Refreshing, as is Bernie Sanders.
20 years is not a long time
20 years seems like a long time when you are, say, a 40 year old and think you've got it all figured out.
Just because pretty store clerks don't give you a second look anymore and your hairline is starting to recede hardly makes you the voice of experience.
Check back in with that "sage" commentary in another 25 years or so..
I wouldn't say it's unprecedented. 0bama won by reaching out to to Americans that were sick of the status quo. He struck a nerve with his declarations against deficit spending, lobbyists, bankers and Wall St. and claimed he would clean it all up. We all know how that worked out. During his second run, he "evolved" on issues like gay marriage, pandering to another sector of society to increase his popularity.
That's why I'm not sold on The Donald. He is striking a chord with many Americans but I am not 100% certain that he is sincere. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I admit that I like his approach and that he doesn't back down from what he says but that doesn't mean he would make a good president. JMO.
you have already been fooled twice--by Obama
I would like to see someone who has actually run something profitable and gotten things done in charge for a change
Pander is what they do until it doesn't stick to you in the breadlines.
The Current POTUS has not been pandering. He has been Lying.
Day one as a National public entity.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
What else would one expect from an arrogant, narcissistic, divisive, incompetent illegal indonesian kenyan alien muslim fudgepacker only interested in its celebrity grand imperial golf life style paid for by US citizen tax paying serfs and peasants... fukem...
The Deep State runs the United States of America for their own power and benefit. The panty waists in elective offices or political appointees are nothing more than mindless POSED* / POSER** automatons who are owned by the Richie Rich Oligarchy who have the talent to read prepared speeches from a TelePrompTer.
I'm absolutely and irrevocably fed up with the rigged elections that keep putting evil traitorous asswipes like the Clinton's, the Bush's, the Obama's, the Harry Reid's, etc., into office. Elections will never restore the American Constitutional Republic. Only The Second American Revolution by the American People will do that.
*POSED—Pile Of Stinkin' Excrement Democrat
**POSER—Pile Of Stinkin' Excrement Republican
>his ability to totally turn around his image is the most remarkable.
No it isn't. He had name recognition as a TV personality and "businessman", he had no "image" in a political context. These political consultants are as blinded by their models as global warming hysterics - or Federal Reserve governors. When your math conflicts with common sense, sometimes it's the common sense that's correct. NOT always, science is the process of re-educating your common sense. But good science is hard, and good political analysis is not well done by robots.
>He says things that would derail other peoples' candidacies
Not really. The *public* was never offended by his comments in the first place, just the nancy-boy MSM reporters who now average so far left they can't even see the center.
What has derailed other candidates who said things like Trump is that those candidates always backed down when attacked by the media and Dems, so branding themselves as weak.
Trump does not back down when attacked by the media and Dems about his statements. In fact he goes further on the attack. Which gives people a reason to believe he means what he says and will do what he says.
Bring our jobs back from overseas, end nafta, kick out the illegals..!!
Trump 2016 !!
Keep dreamin' sheep.
The goober with the funny hair and mob connections won't change directions one bit. He will only hasten the speed at which we are traveling.
So.....now that I mention it......yeah, everybody needs to vote for Trump.
WWIII here come!
So you're saying there won't be 1 billion blacks in Africa then? Nuclear war seems a small price to pay.
Who would make a better candidate, an oligarch or an oligarch's front man??
I don't give a rodent's rearside about what the Washington Pus has to say.
If you're interested, I'd suggest this series:
Start here:http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/08/22/tripwire-alert-evidence-now-exists-to-show-benefit-of-gope-road-mapped-splitter-strategy/
and look through the RESOURCE / REFERENCE MATERIAL listed at the end of the article.
classic report from a "reporter" who has "followed politics closer than close for 20 years" and still does not have a freakin' clue as to what real people think..."unprecedented" is the ignorance of the "power class" about how life really works...
Make America great again!
How?
Kick out the illegals and put America and Americans first!
For "some reason" this message resonates with Americans that have suffered thru 8 years of Obama's racist anti-white anti-American rule. "Some reason."
Must be racist whites.
There's a difference between a racist and someone who doesn't have any white guilt. Although, a close encounter with either could still be fatal.
We have much bigger problems than the one you are stuck on.
I agree on the illegal thing but am not willing to pay Trump's price to get it. The man will be the second coming of Hitler, and the American public is primed and ready........just listen to yourself.
Here we go again with the 'current-teleprompter-in-chief is to blame!!' moronic bullshit.
If you like your lying, race-baiting, neo-Marxist Muslim teleprompter reading dictator, you can keep him!
he's sure as hell ain't mine and i sure as shit didn't vote for him, ignorant twat.
Turns out it also resonates with some blacks and hispanic citizens who'd actually like to have good jobs and don't want their neighborhoods overun by illegals.
ZH: start the poll.
Hillary! versus The Trump.
At least the next four years of lecturing might be interesting if The Trump would win. I really hate being lectured to by Ma Barker.
I mean this with as little hyperbole as possible...Trump will make the US, Germany WWII 2.0. Read about Germany pre-Hitler and on...similarities are piling up. Many of the comments here confirm that. Everyone is getting all nationalistically fired up. Scary stuff.
No, much more similar to Mussolini.
Strongly agree with you. From the Canadian side of the border, this must be what the Polish felt like in the 1930s
Blame the state of the economy on foreigners - Check
Scapegoat a particular ethnic group - Check
Emphasize the 'greatness/uniqueness' of your 'pure' people - Check
Openly promote using a strong military to bully others into submission - Check
Annex neighboring territories - (Dec 16?)
Fuck
Dumb azz Canook, don't diss our dictator Obama!
Yeah, yeah, the US doesn't have enough ice and snow so Trump will be coming to take yours. Be very afraid.
Oh course he might decide you need a fairer share of Mexicans, and you'll no doubt be overjoyed to open your homes and welfare system to them.
I read your comment after posting mine about 6 comments down thread. A large economic downturn about a year from now will make the public yearn for a strongman that "will solve all of their problems."
The scary thing is, we're a lot dumber than the Germans of 83 years ago.
"But, of all the amazing things that Trump is doing - whether he realizes what it is he is actually doing - his ability to totally turn around his image is the most remarkable. It's not something we've seen before."
The actual thing that is amazing, Chris, is that you and many other "journalists" still seem to think that it is all happenstance and not calculated moves by Trump.
Wow..his comeback really has been amazing..even the political pros did not see this coming...and we pay them the big bucks on TV to tell us what is happening and the meaning of it ...well you can't trump that....
Just shows the political pros are as clueless as the supposed economic taling heads.
Trump doesn't use a telepromter. He said that he speaks "off the cuff" at every engagement.
He is very, very, very smart.
Some of you know what that means.
I like the part about demanding excellence.
Trump got where he is on his Dad's money. AND, he went bankrupt FOUR times. So much for excellence
That's simplistic.
Trump never "went bankrupt". Four out of hundreds of his companies went into bankruptcy.
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Trump got where he is on his Dad's money.
No he did'nt. His fathers estate left him 10m.
Don turned that into Billions while his Father was 6' underground.
AND, he went bankrupt FOUR times. So much for excellence.
Again, no he did'nt. He NEVER went liquidation.
He used legal channels to recover his ass when an investment of his went south. Big difference. For example when his casino ran into problems he sold 49% to Citibank for 500m and finished the project.
He did not go broke. Over half of a pie is strill better than no pie.
This happens frequently when bldg. 800m projects.
The best explanation for the Trump phenomena so far:
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2015/08/30/the-donald-trump-phenomeno...
Foreign policy in a Trump administration will be a nostalgic riot. We're already foolishly sticking our noses in the hornet's nest that is the Russian sphere of influence, by fomenting the coup that overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine last year.
As we edge closer to the Russian border in a Trump administration, Putin will say nyet! Trump is tough! He'll go forward anyway. Not understanding history, Trump will not understand that he has just made the ultimate "deal." He has just signed civilization's death warrant.
Going forward against Putin doesn't mean Trump is tough. It means he is stupid.
Trump has already said that the US should not be mixed up in Ukraine, that it is a matter for Europe if they care.
He has also said he respects Putin. He didn't get wealthy in a long business career by underestimating opponents or disrespecting partners.
But instead of listening to what he has said you have create a little fantasy for yourself based on how he treats worthless US media and politicians.
Donald Trump has repeatedly revealed himself to be a nasty, boorish, sexist, ignorant, smug jerk; and that's why everyone loves him.
15 GOP candidates held hostage by one tomato-headed asshat and his towering 40-story ego.
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* He won't back down! *
* He'll never shut up! *
* BLOW HARD... WITH A VENGEANCE!!! *
* Hey, primary voters: Yippee-ki-yay, Motherf**kers! *
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My favorite of his outbursts thus far is him calling Megan a bimbo. Watching him debate is like watching an action movie, makes for some great entertainment. That's probably one reason why the media outlets cover him so much.
I ain't voting for him unless he gets a haircut, and then only if he chooses Jesse Ventura for his running mate. Otherwise I'm voting for Rand Paul.
Whatever happens, don't blame me. I'm voting for Deez Nuts
Rand Paul sure looked like a mugging, entitled, Jr. senator frat boy in that last debate. That smarmy smirk (when he put Christie down for hugging Ocommie) seemed to reveal the real guy. No thanks. Even Ocommie is more grown up than that.
It's not "unprecedented" you nitwits. It's just like the rise of Mussolini.
Or the rise of dictator Obozo
This whole Trump phenomenon is crazy. However, one must wonder. If Trump was to throw all neocons out of the federal government (and under a bus... or tank), that might be a bigger positive than whatever other damage he does.
Not that anything can save the USSA now.
Too late for that.
It's kinda funny (well maybe sad too) that people even at ZH think "voting matters". Even if somehow voting did matter...you never would get a chance to vote for somebody that hasn't already been "chosen" for you.
..Meanwhile , back to your local news..Trump waay ahead in poles,even though he's "racist woman Hater" , and more Top secret hillary emails have been found...
As I write this, it just dawned on me that they probably couldn't have found a more perfect candidate than 'the donald'.
It's lucky for them that we are so predictable.
Let's say you have a choice between two candidates:
#1 says: "If elected, I will execute all people whose names begin with the letter Q".
#2 says: "If elected, I probably won't execute anyone, unless I have to".
Who should you vote for?
Trump has you all watching the apprentice vying for the top job so he can rule the world just like Willy Stark.
NOTE: "The whole world could have been Willy Stark" All the King's Men.
in theory, Trump could fire himself
I know that traders and investors should never think this, but pehaps voters should: "This time it's different".
The silent majority isn't a campaign slogan.
Trump is just another statist prick
Better to have a prick in office than an apologist.
"Rewriting The Rules - Trump's Rise Is Unprecedented"
Think of how power, and more importantly, the noiZ-media, treated Ron Paul and his candidacies.
Now think about how they treat, and even promote, Trump.
Now think...
Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity..
Trump is letting a little hope for us and that is a HUGE difference!
Is Trumpism the New Nationalism?
Patrick J. Buchanan
After the koolaid hope for dopes' Obomber "election", why not a fractured fairy tale of chumps on the stump for Trump in this "election"?
All what we got here's
American made
It's a little bit cheesey,
But it's nicely displayed
Well we don't get excited when it
Crumbles 'n' breaks
We just get on the phone
And call up some flakes
They rush on over
'n' wreck it some more
'n' we are so dumb
They're linin' up at our door
Flakes
Frank Zappa
When will he kiss Netanyahu 's ring?
Never, and he won't bow to every dictator and Saudi King like Obozo did.
the words shallow and gauche come to mind whenever the DTs cross my mind. The owners of capital are saying run with it, we can always fall back to a plan B if it breaks down.
Didn't this happen in the last Greek election - outsider won?
Honesty can be very refreshing, even if we don't like everything we hear.
A book-writing socialist running on an anti-immigrant, anti-corruption, pro-military platform in the midst of an economic depression? That sort of sounds familiar...
Would you prefer an illiterate dictator running on a pro-illegal-immigrant, pro-corruption, anti-military platform?
What you did there? That's called a strawman argument. Note: the article is claiming Trump had an unprecedented reversal of popularity. My comment goes to that point.
Nah. Your comment is just a slur with no connection with reality.
Illegal aliens are not immigrants. Trump is anti illegals and anti use of H1Bs with low slaries to put Americans out of jobs and drive down US wages. Neither constitute being "anti immigrant" as opposed to anti destructive policies about border management.
Nor is he a socialist unless you figure criticizing the existence of privileged tax rates for hedge fund managers who create no real wealth but benefit from Fed policies while extracting wealth from the rest of society to be socialist.
And since you apparently have a problem with someone being anti corruption, you are outing yourself.
Can't even...
Desperate voters do desperate things.
"And in the last days there will be great signs, wonders with feral hairpieces and people desperate for a savoir, any will do, will run to and fro in the street, and say, "What the Fuck! Is that it?! That's the best they could come up with?! Was I born on the wrong fucking planet or something?!".
But this will be but the beginning of sorrows. For the great whore of Wall Street, that false profit of all wickedness and lust, shall smite down upon the golden trumpet a grievous blow, and shall install a flatterer who shall lead widow's 401K's astray, and frighten livestock.
And hairpieces everywhere shall rejoice and say, "What wonders we have beheld! Blessed is the glory of the necromancers and blessed are their loins! We shall rule and rein and put to the sword any who stand against thee!
But the travails were of 15 months long, and no one knew why, and many did fall asleep, or did lose themselves in wayward thoughts, and in banal sins of the flesh involving nachos and beer, hoping the bullshit would fold up on itself, and just fuck right off.
But the necromancers were jealous of their beers, and did plot to take their nachos, so did distract them with useless blather about nothing at all, and then did sneak in and scoff down their nachos.
And a great darkness did fall on the land as the mighty day of November, in some other year entirely, for some reason, did approacheth. And great boredom apathy and much righteous disgust did poison the times ..."
- Chapter 7, Second Book of Moron
Trump is the last train leaving to the old America....slice and dice it as you wish, you're either on the train or not.....
Nobody is perfect, nothing is perfect.
But Trump is the best chance left, so....
You can go or you can stay.
And do you know what...... the whole world is watching US elections...
Trump's actions are being applauded by many, many others.
In France, Germany, China, etcetera, etcetera.
Not Mcdonalds, but The Donald as the new world norm ?
Now that's what I call a death cross.