This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
Italy Is "Willing To Temporarily Suspend Schengen" In Response To Refugee Crisis
Europe's refugee crisis just took a dramatic turn for the worse, and strikes at the very hear of Europe's Shengen customs union which has allowed borderless travel within Europe for decades. As Bloomberg reports, the Italian Province of Bolzano in Northern Italy said in a statement that it agreed with the Italian government on request by German Federal State of Bavaria by "communicating a willingness to restore border controls at Brenner and temporarily suspend the Schengen agreement."
Bloomberg adds that Bavaria’s request was made to all neighboring regions, and includes aid for temporary logistical support in hosting refugees, and that it will "welcome for a few days, as a temporary measure to enable Bavaria to regroup and meet emergency contingent, a number of refugees estimated to be between 300 and 400."
Here is the official statement from the Bolzano province, google translated:
Refugees, Bavaria asks temporary aid to South Tyrol
In the South Tyrol, Italy intervenes in support of Germany in receiving temporary refugees: Bavaria asked logistical support to the Province of Bolzano in these hours of emergency and President Kompatscher had green light from the Italian government for hosting for a few days a contingent of migrants to Germany.
Bavaria record wave record arrivals of refugees in the last hours, mainly via the Balkan route, which is creating an unmanageable situation: working to find new structures and cope immediately with the exponential growth in the number of migrants. Before this sudden emergency the Bavarian Minister Emilia Müller has contacted the provincial councilor Martha Stocker, at the forefront in addressing the issue and keep in touch with colleagues in neighboring regions, asking for a temporary logistical support in hosting refugees. President Arno Kompatscher informed the Italian government and asked the necessary go-ahead from Rome for an intervention of aid to Bavaria, "the perspective of autonomy responsibility and solidarity, but also a strategy with a European able to move over the regional and national borders."
The Government has promptly activated in support of Germany's request by communicating the willingness to step up, in respect of the Schengen agreement, controls the Brenner border, as was done during the G7. The Province of Bolzano will welcome then for a few days - as a temporary measure to enable Bavaria to regroup and meet emergency contingent - a number of refugees estimated to be between 300 and 400. They will be found some gyms, where sanitation and infrastructure are already functioning, while in managing and assisting the Province activate the Civil Protection and the proven collaboration of local associations voluntary. The costs for this extraordinary humanitarian intervention will be borne by the state.
For those who have not been following the unprecedented surge in the European refuge crisis, which is a direct result of hostilities in the middle east as well as ongoing instability in the Mediterranean region, AP reminds us that "the 28-nation bloc has been at odds with itself for months on how to deal with the influx that has seen more than 332,000 migrants enter so far this year. Frontline nations like Greece, Italy and Hungary have pleaded for more help, while powerhouse Germany, which is expecting to take in 800,000 migrants this year, the most in the EU, has demanded that other nations step up and take in more asylum-seekers."
The most recent manifestations of this crisis are beginning to impact Europe logistically: as reported yesterday, hundreds of migrants chanted defiant slogans outside Budapest's main international train station for a second day as Hungarian police blocked them from seeking asylum in Germany and other wealthy European Union countries.
Over in France, the BBC reports that up to 2,000 Eurostar passengers have had their journeys disrupted after migrants got on to train tracks near the Channel Tunnel in France. Two trains had to turn back on Tuesday night - one to London and one to Paris - after reports of migrants climbing on trains about 2km from the tunnel.
AP adds that at other pressure points in the route into Europe, 11 migrants drowned as they tried to cross the sea to Greece. "On a beach in Turkey, people pulled the bodies of migrants out of the water, including one of a little child, and clothes from migrants washed up on the sand. Six other migrants were rescued and five remained missing when two boats carrying them from Bodrum to the nearby Greek island of Kos capsized Wednesday. The private Dogan agency said the dead included a mother and three children."
Hungary's prime minister, Viktor Orban, will summarized the utter chaos and confusion whensaid "we have to reinstate law and order at the borders of the European Union, including the border with Serbia," Zoltan Kovacs said. "Without re-establishing law and order, it will be impossible to handle the influx of migrants."
The problem, as the Bolzano statement confirms, is that increasingly Europe's response appears it may involve the, temporary at first, halt of Europe's customs union, something many have predicted is the only logical outcome of the migrant crisis.
What would that mean for European (dis)integration? The following analysis from Stratfor provides a good starting point.
Europe Rethinks the Schengen Agreement
Forecast
- Rising immigration and fragile economic recovery in Europe will reduce political support for the Schengen Agreement, which eliminates border controls among member states.
- The Schengen Agreement will likely be reformed to make room for countries to tighten their border controls more frequently.
- Friction between Schengen members and other countries will remain, as will tension within the bloc itself.
Analysis
When France, West Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg signed the Schengen Agreement in 1985, they envisioned a system in which people and goods could move from one country to another without barriers. This vision was largely realized: Since its implementation in 1995, the Schengen Agreement eliminated border controls between its signatories and created a common visa policy for 26 countries.
The treaty was a key step in the creation of a federal Europe. By eliminating border controls, member states gave up a basic element of national sovereignty. The agreement also required a significant degree of trust among its signatories, because it put the responsibility for checking foreigners' identities and baggage on the country of first entry into the Schengen area. Once people have entered a Schengen country, they can move freely across most of Europe without facing any additional controls.
The Schengen Agreement was implemented in the 1990s, when the end of the Cold War and the prospect of permanent economic prosperity led EU members to give up national sovereignty in many sensitive areas. The creation of the eurozone is probably the most representative agreement of the period. But several things have changed in Europe since then, and member states are beginning to question many of the decisions that were made during the preceding years of optimism.
The most important change of the past six years is probably Europe's economic crisis and its byproduct, the rise of nationalist political parties. Not far behind, though, is the substantial increase in the number of asylum seekers in Europe, which is putting countries on the European Union's external borders (such as Greece and Italy) and countries in the Continent's economic core (such as France and Germany) under significant stress. This is not the first time the Schengen Agreement has been questioned, but the combination of a rising number of asylum seekers, stronger nationalist parties and fragile economic recovery are leading governments and political groups across Europe to request the redesign, and in some cases the abolishment, of the Schengen Agreement.
On the one hand, countries in northern Europe criticize countries on the Mediterranean for their lack of effective border controls and for their failure to fingerprint many of the asylum seekers that reach EU shores. This means that the migrants can move elsewhere in the Continent to apply for asylum. In recent months, French and Austrian authorities accused Rome of allowing (and even encouraging) asylum seekers to leave Italy and threatened to close their borders with Italy; indeed, France followed through with its threat and briefly closed its border in late June.
On the other hand, countries in southern Europe criticize their northern peers for their lack of solidarity. Italy and Greece have repeatedly demanded more resources to patrol the Mediterranean and rescue immigrants, more funds to shelter asylum seekers and the introduction of immigration quotas in the European Union. Central and Eastern European countries, which think asylum seekers should be distributed on a voluntary basis, rejected the idea of quotas.
The migration crisis has also led to greater friction between Schengen members and their non-Schengen neighbors. The recent dispute between France and the United Kingdom (which is not a member of the Schengen zone) over immigrants trying to cross the English Channel at the French port of Calais was perhaps the most visible example of the growing tension, but the situation also led Hungary to build a fence at its border with Serbia and issue threats to militarize the border.
Rising Migration and Schengen's Shortcomings
The European Union is dealing with two overlapping problems. The first is its struggle to come up with a new immigration policy. Between September and December, EU members will hold a number of meetings and summits to reform the bloc's immigration rules. Germany, a country that only a few months ago was reluctant to change the Dublin regulations (according to which asylum requests should be processed in the country of a migrant's first entry) is now leading the push for a change. Germany expects to receive some 800,000 asylum seekers this year; meanwhile, attacks against immigrant shelters in Germany are spiking.
Berlin's proposals include the creation of a common list of countries considered safe, which means their nationals, in principle, should not be allowed to request asylum in the European Union. This list would largely include countries in the Western Balkans, such as Albania and Macedonia, which are not experiencing a civil war or any particularly serious humanitarian crisis that would justify a request for asylum. Germany's second proposal is the allocation of more funds and staff to centers in Greece and Italy to identify immigrants and process their applications. Finally, Berlin will also push for a proportional distribution of migrants across the European Union.
Each of these points is highly contentious. Asylum requests are a case-by-case issue, and it often takes a long time for authorities to determine who is truly seeking asylum and who is an economic migrant. Deportation will also remain problematic, since most countries in Mediterranean Europe lack the financial and human resources to expel illegal immigrants. In addition, Mediterranean countries are unlikely to simply accept the construction of larger immigration centers within their territory without a clear system to redistribute immigrants across the Continent. Several Central and Eastern European nations opposed a recent plan by the European Commission to introduce mandatory quotas of immigrants, and that opposition is not likely to end.
The European Union's second problem is what exactly to do with the Schengen Agreement. The treaty makes it possible for illegal immigrants to move freely among member states and raises some security questions. Several member states have expressed concern that some of the thousands of migrants arriving in Europe could be terrorists. Recent episodes, such as the attempted attack on a French train in which the attacker obtained weapons in Belgium before trying to kill people on a train going from the Netherlands to France, illustrates the problems linked to the lack of border controls. Although authorities do not have the resources to place every single potential terrorist under surveillance, the lack of border controls eliminates a layer of potential threat detection.
The rise of nationalist parties is also a threat to the Schengen Agreement. In Finland, a nationalist party is already a member of the government coalition, and Euroskeptic and anti-immigration parties are influential in countries such as Denmark, Sweden and Hungary. In France, most opinion polls show that the Euroskeptic National Front will make it to the second round of the presidential election in 2017. All of these parties believe that national immigration laws should be toughened and the Schengen Agreement should be revised, if not abolished.
The Future of Schengen
The European Union probably will not abandon the Schengen Agreement anytime soon. Despite the criticisms, the treaty has reduced the time and cost of moving goods across Europe because trucks no longer have to wait for hours to cross an international border. It also benefits tourists and people living on border towns, because passports and visas are no longer needed. Finally, the agreement allows countries to save money, because governments no longer need to patrol their land borders.
The Schengen Agreement will probably be reformed before the end of the decade to make it easier for countries to reintroduce border controls. The first step in this direction happened in 2013, when signatory members agreed that border controls could be temporarily reintroduced under extraordinary circumstances (such as a serious threat to national security). But the reform is limited in its scope (border controls can be reintroduced for a maximum of 10 days, and only after consultation with the European Commission) and it explicitly says that a spike in immigration should not, in itself, be considered a threat to internal security.
In the coming years, member states will push to be given more power and discretion when it comes to reintroducing border controls. EU countries in northern Europe will also push for the suspension or even the expulsion of countries along the European Union's external borders that are seen as failing to effectively control their borders. New EU member states will have a hard time entering the Schengen zone, and the resistance from some countries to accept nations like Romania and Bulgaria (which have been in the European Union for almost a decade but are still waiting to join the Schengen area) will become the new normal.
Even without a proper reform of the Schengen Agreement, member states will continue to enhance police controls at train and bus stations and at airports. Several countries already employ sporadic police controls on trains and buses, a practice that is likely to grow. Under pressure from conservative forces, many EU countries (mostly in northern Europe) will also toughen their migration laws to make it harder for immigrants to access welfare benefits.
To a certain extent, the weakening of the Schengen Agreement is linked to the weakening of the free movement of people — one of the key liberties of the European Union. The treaty and the principle of free movement are not the same thing; any EU citizen has the right to transit and remain in any member state regardless of the existence of border controls. But the Schengen Agreement was designed to strengthen the free movement of people and create a Continent without borders. The likely reforms to the Schengen Agreement will hurt this basic principle. Once a basic principle is weakened, the door is open for other freedoms to be similarly affected. The main threat to the European Union is that the weakening of the free movement of people could precede the weakening of the free movement of goods, which would end the European Union in its current form.
»
- 23503 reads
- Printer-friendly version
- Send to friend
- advertisements -
LOL! Bullshit, I see something else happening. Yes, the italians will be all to happy to let people into Italy so long as they keep going north into the other E.Z. countries!!!
Fucking brilliant!!!
Italy won't be keeping them. I imagine Germany is attempting to divert some of this to the French as well. Closing the Schengan is necessary, but its all meaningless until Hungary, Switzerland & Austria follow suit.
Perfect plan for civil war: implement the Schengen Agreement then enable the purposely starved countries into Europe. In the U.S. We do the same thing. Create a one way border "control" and bus in the undesirables or let them walk across. Bam! Pissed off people ready to fight! Rinse. Repeat.
The French will simply pass them onto Germany, which will result in border controls between France & Germany.
I am actually completely ok with this.
Put the EU NATO forces to work and relocate all the illegal immigrants to Greenland. Problem solved.
If Europe is looking for "temporary" border control solutions, they need look no further than this specification from France.
interestingly, this picture was part of a propaganda war, too, drawn specifically for that
pure disinformation, pure bollocks, nothing there that even resembles reality
the real Maginot Line is still there, and very interesting to visit. lots of tourists do it every year
meanwhile, the comments to this article... resemble this picture. projections with nearly no connections with the current realities they claim to discuss
Agreed. The French are dreamers. Zee Germans have always been better with developing and actually implementing REAL solutions.
Some real barbed wire, real wood posts, a couple of real storm-troopers with real machine guns, and there you have it.
Reality. Jah?
Sure its not a defensive design proposal of the very early 1920s?
It will only take months if not weeks until Schengen is history. No treaty change needed! In the EU noone respects contracts and treaties anyways!
quote from "Game of Thrones" Nr. 1: "You know nothing, Jon Snow"
I know human nature. You know EU politics which is based in fantasy land. You can win for a while, but eventually human nature will prevail and I will.
The thing is -- you have to keep winning constantly to keep the status quo going. I only need to win once.
lol, you young whippersnapper think I have no clue about human nature? look, the point is very easy to make for me but might be very hard for your to swallow:
you do not understand politics or ideology. and no, up to now it can't be seen as a fault or your fault. but while you become elder, you should, imho
example: just recently, you wished for a "Libertarian Revolution". in Europe.
first, the most "libertarian thing" that ever happened to Europe is the EU in it's current form. particularly the Four Freedoms
second, most libertarians (which btw belong to the "family" of liberals (classic term)) are against borders
third, we practically don't have any libertarians in Europe, except if you extend this term as a courtesy to groups you would not recognize as libertarian
don't take it hard, but seriously, you do not understand neither politics nor ideologies. but you are young, if you set yourself to study a bit, you will get there, I'm sure of that
Here's the rule: If you support illegal immigration, or open borders, you must first allow an immigrant family into your own home to live, eat your food, sleep in your beds, and crap in your toilets. Until you are willing to do that STFU.
and where did I support illegal immigration? besides the fact that this article is about war refugees / asylum seekers, which is legally a completely different matter?
further, where did I support "open borders"? that's a typical libertarian demand in the US, btw. Just ask Ron Paul and his views on the US-Mexican border and the fence there
you guys are simply projecting, and you aren't even aware that you are doing it
Completely different? Legally?
It is a simple rule for all circumstances.
In his world =
If you are poor or from a war zone and hide yourself under a truck and come to a wealthy peaceful place, you are completely legally here. If you are from a wealthy peaceful country and overstay your VISA = illegal.
Nevermind the way a social state pays for itself.
I want to see a caravan of buses all lined up outside that stadium full of north Africans in Greece waiting to take the thousands of refugees directly to the border.
A long line of happy north Africans (as happy as a north African can be these days) waiting patiently in line to get their 50 Euros in cash and a map to Wolfgang Schäubles house from the friendly Greek guy at the head of the line.
TROJAN FUCKING HORSE 2.0!!!!!!!!!!!
I am never paying for a train ticket or parking ticket/meter in Germany again. Fuck it, if they want chaos and anarchy then let's let them have it. They don't understand that Germany only has the rule of law today because people willingly CHOOSE to obey the law. Letting these lawless subhumans flood into Germany is going to turn Germany into something unrecognizable. Something like Africa. Something like Syria.
And how many of these fat middle aged women checking train tickets are going to get beat to death by these refugees when they try to fine them 40 or 80 Euro or whatever for not having tickets?
No, fuck you Germany. You already fucked yourself and your children (oh wait, the Syrian "refugees" are fucking your children).
https://mopo24.de/nachrichten/park-chemnitz-zentrum-missbrauch-siebenjae...
yes, in our laws, there is a legal difference between immigration and asylum
Snowden, for example, is asking for asylum. on the ground of being a political refugee. and Russia granted him asylum
@Ghordius
Unlike Snowden who had a clear and defined threat against him by the state, the millions of MENA "asylum seekers" have no direct threat to themselves or their families and are crashing boarders purely for financial gain.
As an American Libertarian I do not want open borders. I want liberty from the consequences of other peoples choices, and the freedom to make my own choices.
Anyone who says open borders is a tenant of libertarianism is a moron or a liar, or both.
I would add that any "asylum seeker" that has entered the country illeagaly, is an illeagal alien first. I could care less WHY they came here, I am pissed HOW they came here.
that's not our european "tradition"
a typical political asylum seeker was often, not that long ago, a German Democratic Republic soldier throwing down his rifle and jumping over the fence he was guarding. or a Soviet aviation officer flying his MIG and landing on one of our airstrips
Here it is a crime to enter the country illeagaly, the same way as it is a crime to enter your home illeagaly.
I can understand allowing defectors from an enemy to enter your country as long as they have something of value to offer. That also USED to be the policy of immigration in America. An immigrant had to be self supporting and already have a job to go to and the means to care for themselves. Now immigrants come here for the free handouts provided by a more socialistic and liberal government like free school, EBT cards, Obama phones, housing assitance, day care assistance, and medical care, WITHOUT bringing anything of value with them. ( They overwhelmingly support more socialistic style of government, so the left loves more immigrants. )
You should be concerned about the current typical asylum seeker. They will devolve your society to the level they came from.
@ Ghordius How idiotic is it to compare a German fleeing to his own country of Germany to an African "refugee" who has gone through dozens of safe zones in order to get to the welfare rich zones of Germany , GB or Sweden? Why can't Africans flee to negro paradises of SA and Zimbabwe?
Why can't "refugees" flee to rich Saudi Arabia and Israel? BY the way, I wish you bleeding hearts would quit lying about the nature and makeup of your "children" refugees who are 87% male and average 25 years old. What kind of scum leaves his family behind in a so called "war zone".
Acceptance rate fo asylum seekers in Germany is 1,8% (of total asylum requests in 2014)
Nussi34
And he rest of the 98.2% stay in Germany regardless.
Plenty of Leftists fit into the "both" category in America and Europe.
Open boarders would be fine in the libertarian sense because Libertarians would eliminate "welfare or benefits". If you have social benefits you cannot have open boarders. So be honest here Libertarians want open boarders but they don't want welfare only voluntary charity.
So after eliminating welfare and benefits, you're going to let a bunch of non-liberty people overrun your country and start voting, who will promptly vote for welfare and benefits (and the end of liberty). Brilliant.
As Haus-Targaryen says above: "Anyone who says open borders is a tenant of libertarianism is a moron or a liar, or both."
The liberty minded - those who not only value liberty but have the brains to maintain it - represents at best 5% of the human population. If any libertarian state is to have any chance at all of remaining that way, they have to find some way to allow that 5% to retain sufficient control over the law, or their own laws will soon become the enemy of liberty.
He won't.
What will the neighbors think?
No Ghordo -- you have no clue of human nature. You have no clue how history is the best "crystal ball" for future activity. You have no clue the realities it takes to build a functioning union.
You are an EU ideologue. You *believe* in the project first, and then look for justifications for your beliefs. Its called a self-confirming bias. For the dumb and uneducated I understand why they are the way they are -- but you are educated and clearly not intellectually deficient, which makes your support of the project all the more infuriating.
It isn't really your fault -- I mean you grew up after the war, when you were taught that a "United States of Europe is the only way to prevent another horrible horrible war." You've heard it so many times, you might have come to believe it yourself, even though you logically know its insane. We are all a product of our conditioning, and your conditioning, regrettably is based in a flawed ideology. That of European Solidarity and a sense of a European Singularity.
I was in Erfurt a few weeks ago when family was here visiting. We were speaking English with one another walking away from the Erfurter Dom, and an elderly homeless lady heard us speaking English. She started shouting "Lang lebe die Deutsche Demokratische Republik! Lang lebe die Sowjetunion! Lang lebe die wunderschöne Sozialismus! Halt deine Klappe! Das ist Russische Boden!"
She is someone who believed (likely to her detriment) in an ideology that was flawed. When it collapsed, she couldn't handle it and now lives under a bridge somewhere. I understand European Politics just fine. I understand your ideology just fine. Our problem is you are completely incapable of seeing a Europe (in the geographic sense of the word) without Europe (in the political sense of the word).
I have about a thousand years of history on my side. The EU is not a new idea, nor is the EUR. Both have been tried, and the failure rate up to this point is 100%. But you believe -- with your entire heart -- it will be different this time.
This is your problem Ghordo, you say I don't understand politics or ideologies -- which isn't the case, I just disagree with your politics & ideologies, and thus you think I am ignorant. I won't say the same about you -- because it isn't true. You are a very educated individual, but in this one thing -- you lack wisdom. You believe in the continued existence of something and its ideology because you want to believe in it.
Be careful Ghordo -- when you believe in a political system that is as flawed as the European Union is -- you have to be intellectually and emotionally prepared for its demise. I've already emotionally distanced myself from the United States, and I have no emotional attachment to the EUR. You, I am a bit worried about. Don't end up like her.
" you were taught that a "United States of Europe is the only way to prevent another horrible horrible war."
no. projection from your side. the USE is the last thing we want. and it is not what we have, at the moment
"Lang lebe die Deutsche Demokratische Republik! Lang lebe die Sowjetunion! Lang lebe die wunderschöne Sozialismus! Halt deine Klappe! Das ist Russische Boden!"
not an argument. note what she said
"I understand European Politics just fine"
you don't understand US libertarians. and their views on borders. read what Ron Paul says about borders
you don't understand European politics. you are yourself highly immersed in "far right" propaganda while having a socialist result at a political quiz
"I have about a thousand years of history on my side"
of which you don't know much, Jon Snow. you have for example no idea about how frontiers and borders in Europe worked in the last thousand years
"a political system that is as flawed as the European Union is..."
here, for example, you state that it has a political system. meaning that you don't even understand that it isn't one system. it's based on the various national political systems
"I have no emotional attachment to the EUR"
this is something I could claim, but you? you hate it. you don't know even yourself, Jon Snow
If you think American Libertarians have to advocate for an open border you aren't half as intelligent as I gave you credit for.
EDIT - You are of the camp that Jon Snow is actually a Targaryen. I think this is spot on aswell.
nope, I can't claim to be an expert on US Libertarians. most of my knowledge about them comes from ZH, and a few searches
the question is: are there any libertarian left, here on ZH? and what is their point on open borders?
here in Europe it's our liberals and our socialists for and our conservative against
meanwhile, the whole thing here is not about "open borders". it still is about asylum seekers, i.e. war refugees. and Italy closing shortly the border on request of Austria, while processing 400 asylum seekers on behalf of Austria. in short, one sovereign asking another one a favour, all within the legal bounds of a treaty among them
(Jon Snow a Targaryen? that thought never touched me. interesting)
Ghordius, You leave out what Ron Paul says about welfare, that is a key component of having open boarders that work.
so you agree that Ron Paul advocates at the same time the abolishment of the welfare state and open borders? besides the abolishment of the FED, of course
is this "orthodox" US Libertarianism or is it only Ron Paul?
Yeah Jon Snow is a Targaryen, in my opinoin --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHqzFwodZqQ
As a libertarian, one might argue one of the few "appropriate" duties of government is to defent a nation's borders from invaders. From a pragmatic standpoint, a nation can have open borders or a generous welfare state and survive for a time. It cannot have both. From a political realities perspective, protection of the border is far easier.
As a libertarian, one might argue one of the few "appropriate" duties of government is to defent a nation's borders from invaders. From a pragmatic standpoint, a nation can have open borders or a generous welfare state and survive for a time. It cannot have both. From a political realities perspective, protection of the border is far easier.
You need to be careful not to think of "open borders" as just one big thing. It's not - it's multiple issues. For example, different senses of "open borders" include (but are not limited to):
* passing through
* visiting to conduct business
* buying/owning property
* taking up residence
* voting
Since libertarians tend to believe in (true) free trade and ownership of property (inluding the ability to sell it), they also tend to be for some of these senses of "open borders".
However, allowing random people to just walk in and start voting is a sure way to lose whatever society you've created. That includes birthright citizenship (which the US currently has) that makes anyone born here (whether their mother was here legally or not) a full voting citizen automatically.
Ron Paul does not represent libertarians in all things, but since you have brought him up in this thread as someone who supports open borders I will point out that even he does not believe we should have birthright citizenship:
"Make no mistake, Americans are happy to welcome immigrants who follow our immigration laws and see a better life here. America is far more welcoming and tolerant of newcomers than any virtually any nation on earth. But our modern welfare state creates pervasive incentives for immigrants, incentives that cloud the issue of why people chose to come here. We cannot afford to open our pocketbooks to the rest of the world. We must end the pervasive incentives that encourage immigrants to come here illegally, including the anchor baby incentive."
-Representative Ron Paul, Texas Straight Talk October 2, 2006
This might do a better job of fracturing the union than grexit ;) And in view of the opinion of this bitch http://www.latviannews.lv/interview/62/ I got no problem with any border controls either.
Did you get a good look at that ugly bitch?
She ain't Latvian.
Time for a "dialog" with the facilitators.
So obvious it could only have been planned.
Yes. These are the refugees of war; of the US-Israeli War against the peoples of the Middle East.
I think the war they are fleeing is the 1400+ year war of Islam vs Islam. Well the US did help touch it off. But the hatreds are much older than the EU.
Oh, you do, do you? Well, Paul Craig Roberts thinks differently. He believes - and substantiates with fact - that it is the neoconservatives (aka newzionists) who are leading mankind into dictatorship and WWIII. Wrote Roberts in 2014:
“Neoconservatives dominated the George W. Bush regime. They controlled the Pentagon, the National Security Council, the Office of the Vice President, and much else. Neoconservatives gave us 9/11 and its coverup, the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, the beginning of the destabilizations of Pakistan and Yemen, the U.S. Africa Command, the invasion of South Ossetia by Georgia, the demise of the anti-ABM Treaty, unconstitutional and illegal spying on American citizens without warrants, loss of constitutional protections, torture, and the unaccountability of the executive branch to law, Congress, and the judiciary. In short, the neoconservatives laid the foundation for dictatorship and for WW III.
“The Obama regime held no one accountable for the crimes of the Bush regime, thus creating the precedent that the executive branch is above the law. Instead, the Obama regime prosecuted whistleblowers who told the truth about government crimes.
“Neoconservatives remain very influential in the Obama regime. As examples, Obama appointed neoconservative Susan Rice as his National Security Advisor. Obama appointed neoconservative Samantha Power as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations. Obama appointed neoconservative Victoria Nuland as Assistant Secretary of State. Nuland’s office, working with the CIA and Washington-financed NGOs, organized the U.S. coup in Ukraine.
“Neoconservatism is the only extant political ideology. The ideology is “America uber alles.” Neoconservatives believe that History has chosen the United States to exercise hegemony over the world, thereby making the U.S. ‘exceptional’ and ‘indispensable.’ Obama himself has declared as much. This ideology gives neoconservatives tremendous confidence and drive, just as Karl Marx’s conclusion that history had chosen the workers to be the ruling class gave early communists confidence and drive.”
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/12/paul-craig-roberts/how-close-are-we/
20 bucks says that Rummy and Cheney are still running the show behind the scenes.
http://citizengo.org/en/26581-refus-lideologie-du-genre-dans-les-ecoles-lue
please sign!
Arm them and send them back.....provide air cover.....problem solved.
Next?
no, not solved, for the simple reason that those refugees are more lambs then wolfes. those who care to fight did not have to cross several borders under extreme conditions just to flee war
Dude.....you gotta fight for your right.....to party.
Besides......we're running out of free crap everywhere. In case you haven't noticed.
Borders, language and culture
Dr. Michael Savage
Obama is 100% responsible for this refugee crisis. His treasonous conspiracy with Saudi Arabia and Israel to overthrow the Assad regime by using ISIS mercenaries has made most of Syria a killing ground. So, civilians facing rape and death from CIA financed jihadists or just death from Syrian barrel bombs choose to run away. By the hundreds of thousands. The only real solution is for the West to unite to exterminate the followers of the ISIS cult. The problem there is that Obama at heart is an enemy of Western civilization.
Obama just took advantage of the 1400+ year war of Islam vs Islam. Without that it would be difficult to find mercenariies.
#White genocide
Start fucking...
"problem" solved... ...eventually...
Waddya mean START??
And better yet... Ban vibrators.
Having your woman use a vibrator while having sex with her is a zesty treat.
Not when it's the lawn mower!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS9RAeQv-NQ
How many kids you got? White women want their 2 (boy and girl preferably) and to retire for the rest of their lives to the easy life of a fat house wife. Women are very impressionable and easily controlled by the media. I have NEVER met a white woman with more than 3 children by the same white man. Never. In over 30 years of life. 3 is relatively common, but 4? Never. NEVER!
White women are literally murdering the white race.
But all our grandmothers had 6+ children. Most of us wouldn't be here today if they hadn't because we are descended from 4th and 5th and 7th children of those grandmothers. Feminism has convinced white women to commit suicide of their entire race.
Western feminist civilization and society are doomed. 100% fucked. The only thing you can do if you want your genetic heritage to survive is look to the East and hope they don't succumd to Western feminism and mass invasion/immigration.
If you need me I'll be learning some Eastern European language.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfrR5lAxXV0
What Every White Person Should KnowIf you can't speak - black, white or Christian - then you and your country have no future. Here's a quote from "What Every White Person Should Know":
"We can’t have a true and meaningful dialogue about race in this nation because if you say anything against black folk you will be drummed out of town and out of church." – black pastor Rev. Manning
-> European Community
-> European Union
Maybe we shouldn't be meddling in the middle east, but not doing so would get in the path of the globalists. You can't create a new world order until all national identities are destroyed, which is one of the many reasons why are invasion from the south is encouraged.
It's been kinda fun listening to non-americans fight about illegals.
I really can't figure out why the Caucasian leaders are waging war on the Caucasian people. I mean this flooding of non-natives is being allowed purposely it is quiet obvious.
Technically speaking, Syrians, Arabs, and Persians are caucasian. This is more about cultural destruction than racial destruction.
Good point noted.
What's the point of a country if you have to take everybody in and support them?
Can we push the same logic down to the family level? Assign each family an additional person to support under their roof?
"Assign each family an additional person to support under their roof?" -- This already happens through taxation, ever hear of SNAP?
They need new troops for Ukraine, open those borders you thoughtless Radicals.
"The treaty was a key step in the creation of a federal Europe. By eliminating border controls, member states gave up a basic element of national sovereignty "
federalist bollocks. as this very example shows, temporary lapses are common and allowed and no loss of national sovereignty is included
it's like saying that if I lend the keys of my downtown apartment to my niece I gave her the apartment as a gift
But for the period when she is there and you are not ...you did!
What does 'ownership' mean if not 'the freedom to use'?
emperor Augustus had to make the difference between possession and ownership
a point well anchored in Roman Law since then, and later in our Civil Code on the Continent
when I give the keys to my niece, I give her possession... while keeping ownership, which includes the right to take that possession back
The correct analogy would be, you agreed to let your niece use your apartment by taking the locks off the doors to never put them back. Word got out that your apartment has no locks and always has a full refrigerator and you cannot put the locks back on by the agreement with your niece that no body else gives a shit about.
to further the correct analogy, my niece has duplicated the keys and gave them to all her friends and even people she does not know
meanwhile I have agreed with my sister I would not throw her out
and there the analogy breaks down... because in Europe we are talking about sovereigns with their own taxes, own military forces and police. while "the EU" has... nothing
meaning that there is no policeman dragging me anywhere if I change those locks or put my armed minions in front of that door
and that's why I say "federalist bollocks", and why all those projections from the US don't make sense in this context
I believe the outcome of this will be a rise in Nationalism and resentment. Could become pretty bad if left to continue.
George Friedman is still a statist anal cyst pretending to provide actual analysis. He and Sidney Blumenthal should shack up together...
On the amazingly ignorant "Future of Schengen"
The Schengen Agreement will probably be reformed before the end of the decade ... But the reform is limited in its scope (border controls can be reintroduced for a maximum of 10 days, and only after consultation with the European Commission) and it explicitly says that a spike in immigration should not, in itself, be considered a threat to internal security.
My Italian sucks, but I don't read that the Italians (are yet) suspending Schengen, but suspension is the next realistic step (de facto or de jure). Any treaty can be amended, suspended, or simply ignored... by consent of the parties (or presumed consent), and they would save the hassle of paying shysters to make a mockery of Stratfor's "immigration should not, in itself".
Italy is being overwhelmed, they will face riots if they don't do something that at-least makes the public believe there is a solution underway.
What PAx Americana bequeaths to EU in its mad hubris its kept woman cannot swallow!
Thus be the prime time of being a harem slave ; prisoner to MIC/OIL/petrodollar's power.
For whom the bell tolls. For the slave as for the master.
As Ghordius says : I hope this is temporary...time will tell if EU nations have that gumption.
Germany has 100,000s of HOMELESS GERMANS but no it gives free Food, Clothes, Shelter, Medical Care etc. to millions of "Economic Migrants" how phucking retarded is that ?!
#whitegenocide
homeless Germans? do you have a link for that?
Being that the Germans are not reproducing enough to even replace themselves I would imagine that there is some vacant housing or will be soon. Enough. Germany will experience "white" flight as people who have these hordes of "illegal" immigrants move next to them will wish to relocate. Good luck Germans you will need it. PS. Don't be the last to sell when you see it starting.
"100,000s of HOMELESS GERMANS"???? Guess I didn't get the newsletter.
Federalism is good, I benefit greatly.
.
-always baby
Bankerster Cloward-Pivon strategy being used in the EU. The US-Saudi-Israeli ISIS are being pushed out of Syria by the upcoming Russian bombings and into the EU. In effect the US is pushing ISIS refugees into the EU with they help of Russia. Italy should issue arrest warrants for any current and ex-Goldman Sachs employees in their nation to stop the madness.
Looks a lot like a European Cloward-Piven strategy.
Blowback is a BITCH!!
They need a final solution.
Refurbish and update Auschwitz?
Where do these people shit and piss? Where do they bathe? What do they eat?
Are they educated? What skills do they have?
I'm sorry: allow this invasion to continue and you will find your country in ruin. These people weren't able to make their own country workable....how will they improve the newly invaded ones?
A naval blockade is the answer, NOW!
Bomb them.
Oh calm down, they aren't "terrorists." They are just illiterate, lazy, criminal, and disease-ridden. The US has been importing the Mexican version for decades, and we are doing just fine.
This is where the tyrants who would control the world meet the ethnic demand of citizens who want their sovereignty:
Austrian intelligence says US organizations are funding immigration into Europe | White Genocide Project
by Steve Goode • August 16, 2015 •
An anonymous employee from the Austrian Defense Office, which is operated by the Austrian Federal Ministry of Defense, says that some groups in the USA are paying smugglers to get more African and Middle Eastern immigrants into Europe.
“Traffickers demand exorbitant sums to bring refugees to Europe illegally. The conditions are often very poor, but still a transport does currently cost 7000-14000 Euro…” the Austrian Defense Office employee told Info-Direkt.at.
“There are insights that organizations from the US have created a co-financing model and contribute substantial amounts to trafficker’s costs.”
“Not every refugee from North Africa has 11,000 euros in cash. Nobody asks where the money comes from.”
The employee said that there was a “strict news blackout” on how the African and Middle Eastern immigrants were able to pay the traffickers fees.
If this is true, then it means various anti-White groups have resorted to paying for non-White illegal immigrants, instead of legal ones, all so they can make White Europeans a vanishing minority.
While these anti-Whites claim to be building “diverse” societies, it seems highly suspicious that ONLY White countries are targeted to become “diverse”.
The point that we are putting out is that a targeting of a group (in this case White people) is genocide. Only White countries, cities, and towns are not “diverse” enough, and the “final solution” is to make all of them minority White.
Deliberately trying to turn us into a minority is as much White genocide as shooting us or putting us into camps.
http://whitegenocideproject.com/austrian-intelligence-says-us-organizations-are-funding-immigration-into-europe/
All links erased?
Yes. Looks like Google has erased the entire site with this message: “Nothing found - No results were found. Perhaps searching will help find a related post.”
See numerous links on Google to the article I read on the site just yesterday; now the entire site, White GeNOcide Project, is blank. Here’s the original search reference:
Austrian intelligence says US organizations are funding ...whitegenocideproject.com/austrian-intelligence-says-us-organizations-are...
Aug 16, 2015 - White GeNOcide Project ... Austrian intelligence says US organizations are funding immigration into Europe ... paying smugglers to get more African and Middle Eastern immigrants into Europe. ... Deliberately trying to turn us into a minority is as much White genocide as shooting us or putting us into camps. From:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Austrian+intelligence+says+US+organizations+are+funding+immigration+in
Given Google's working relationship with the US government, a search engine becomes the ultimate destroyer and eliminator of truth and information. In the War of the People Against the Government the first victim trageted by the government will be the Internet.
Bing also: Nothing Found for the home website. We'll have to go by the article's headline references.
"American." I think you mean Jewish. Genociding all white people.
Also, if Europe continues to be 100% white then it would easily overtake America since America is already a non-white nation by 2040 due to current demographics (old white people dying and the majority of young/children in America are non-white). It is certainly possible that this is a willful act to flood Europe with horrible Muslim shitskin monsters that will fuck Europe up for centuries/forever.
Italy is under control of the vassals from the EU management, corrupt officials that obey the Zionist Crime Syndicate agenda . Then there is the catholic church which supports openly open immigration of the illegals making money from housing the migrants in decrepit building and they are getting money from the hopeless Italian Government that never has done anything to discorage the illegal migration . On the contrary the Italian government has stationed Italian navy and coastguard ships only a few miles off the coast of Libya .
The Zionist newpapers are supporting the governemnt agenda narrating terrible stories of hadship and danger , but forget to tell the public that the EU created those problems supporting the wars in Libya and in Syria .
I do not see any solution to this problem with the current leaders ( both EU and Italian ) in charge . They should all be shot in the head without trial becasue they are traitors .
the EU created those problems supporting the wars in Libya and in Syria .
So the EU is a Zionist Plot? Well this guy thought he had the answer to that:
http://news.yahoo.com/white-supremacist-admits-three-kansas-murders-seek...
He didn't kill any Jews. How typical.
Jews and Zoinist are not one in the same.
Syria has been a shithole for centuries. I don't wanna hear about how the 'West' bombed them back into the stone age. It isn't the West's fault these people are savages and have nothing. It's in their own genetic makeup. They have no initiative, pride, or desire to improve themselves. They simply wish to reproduce and leech off of others.
@ZA has been a shithead for decades.
There's no hope for you people. Keep taking the vaccinations. Listen to your TEEVEE and keep staring at your 'smart' phones ' because it's obvious YOU will never be.
Syria was just not chosen for "exceptionalism", ie: a resource to be occupied and set up as a banker oligarch power base for far reaching military rape and pillage missions and wealth collection.
I see the word zion in your handle.
In March 2011 Vogue Magazine featured an article on Asma al-Assad, Syria’s first lady. The story presents a remarkable scenario of Syria before the catastrophic war that was to unfold. Since the date of the article (quickly pulled from the Internet by Vogue and now found only on Gawker), “the killing of 202,354 people in the Syria war has been documented (76,021 people killed in 2014 alone), just under half of them civilians.” …
Asma al-A ssad: A Rose in the Desert | Vogue
EXCERPT:
Asma al-Assad, Syria’s dynamic first lady, is on a mission to create a beacon of culture and secularism in a powder-keg region—and to put a modern face on her husband’s regime.
Asma al-Assad is glamorous, young, and very chic—the freshest and most magnetic of first ladies. Her style is not the couture-and-bling dazzle of Middle Eastern power but a deliberate lack of adornment. She’s a rare combination: a thin, long-limbed beauty with a trained analytic mind who dresses with cunning understatement. Paris Match calls her “the element of light in a country full of shadow zones.” She is the first lady of Syria.
Syria is known as the safest country in the Middle East, possibly because, as the State Department’s Web site says, “the Syrian government conducts intense physical and electronic surveillance of both Syrian citizens and foreign visitors.” It’s a secular country where women earn as much as men and the Muslim veil is forbidden in universities, a place without bombings, unrest, or kidnappings, but its shadow zones are deep and dark. Asma’s husband, Bashar al-Assad, was elected president in 2000, after the death of his father, Hafez al-Assad, with a startling 97 percent of the vote. In Syria, power is hereditary. The country’s alliances are murky. How close are they to Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah? There are souvenir Hezbollah ashtrays in the souk, and you can spot the Hamas leadership racing through the bar of the Four Seasons. Its number-one enmity is clear: Israel. But that might not always be the case. The United States has just posted its first ambassador there since 2005, Robert Ford.
Iraq is next door, Iran not far away. Lebanon’s capital, Beirut, is 90 minutes by car from Damascus. Jordan is south, and next to it the region that Syrian maps label Palestine. There are nearly one million refugees from Iraq in Syria, and another half-million displaced Palestinians.
“It’s a tough neighborhood,” admits Asma al-Assad.
It’s also a neighborhood intoxicatingly close to the dawn of civilization, where agriculture began some 10,000 years ago, where the wheel, writing, and musical notation were invented. Out in the desert are the magical remains of Palmyra, Apamea, and Ebla. In the National Museum you see small 4,000-year-old panels inlaid with mother-of-pearl that is echoed in the new mother-of-pearl furniture for sale in the souk. Christian Louboutin comes to buy the damask silk brocade they’ve been making here since the Middle Ages for his shoes and bags, and has incidentally purchased a small palace in Aleppo, which, like Damascus, has been inhabited for more than 5,000 years….
Images for Asma al-A ssad: A Rose in the Desert
The full article, pulled by Vogue, can be found on Gawker
http://gawker.com/asma-al-assad-a-rose-in-the-desert-1265002284
Not surprised that the article was pulled. Too much truth. The reporter noted that Assad has BLUE EYES!
Who is behind 3rd world immigration into Sweden and why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P07PZgUOL-o
Look up Barbara Spectre Lerner, an American Jewish studies professor. Here is a video of what she had to say about who is behind 3rd world immigration into all of Europe. Barbara Spectre Lerner, sister of Lois Lerner, IRS Commissar who specialized in auditing Whites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Vq_e2Z1ug
This video expands on the Barbara Spectre section of the previous video about Sweden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROGnoNJc6Nw
There is another member of the same tribe, Anetta Kahane in Germany saying the same things: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuYKtwnzG7M
Profound and enlightening quotes in these videos, Skip, and in those videos linked to them. Thanks!
Truth, crushed to earth, shall rise again;
The eternal years of God are hers;
But Error, wounded, writhes with pain,
And dies among his worshippers.
---William Cullen Bryant, 1794-1878, The Battle-Field
Moron, in terms of culture and history Syria blows most Western nations out of the water. It's not their fault the jews decided to create a state next to them.
Yeah, it's never anyone's own fault. It's the 'Jews' or the 'west'.
Sorry. 10,000 years time didn't produce any results. Now they expect other nations to provide for them. Moron, eh? You just don't know what you don't know. It's sad.
Who would have figured an anti sovereignty alliance would end in invasion?
Sounds like the Donald will have a job waiting for him in Europe if the american public don't vote him in.
Jeb Bush offers demonstrative evidence when thinking about an official language for #America.
Jeb Bush is politicking in Spanish now-a-days.
There is one country that does not allow open borders. And it’s not Palestine….
People fear fire.
Syria has had centuries to upgrade itself and its culture, just like any other nation. All I see are people riding around in donkey carts with 5 kids in tow. A google search of 'wonderful syrian accomplishments' came up empty. Go ahead and enlighten me as to why these people have a right to invade some other country? How many live with YOU now? Yeah....that's what I thought....not so much.
The Jews are nation wreckers, an existential threat to both western and eastern nations and cultures.
Nation Wreckers: Jewish Influence in British Politics
The Nation Wreckers: Jewish Influence in British Politics is a booklet by Sandra Ross released between May and August 1975, which investigated the involvement of Jews in British political life. It was published by Britain First, a publication which supported the National Front, with a foreword by Richard Lawson. It demonstrates the Jewish war against the British national liberation movement, through communist and Zionist organisations such as the Jewish Board of Deputies, Ajex, Searchlight and others. It shows how the Jews are behind coloured immigration and Europhobic race laws.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Nation_Wreckers:_Jewish_Influence_in_British_Politics
Your posts on this thread are amazing!
Preface to the First Paperback Edition PDF
Preface to the First Paperback Edition HTML
Review of 'The Culture of Critique'
The shitskins had many thousands of years to get their shit together but couldn't do it. They come from a long and ancient line of people who made really fucking terrible decisions. The first bad decision was adopting Islam.
A turn for the worse? I don't think so. It's great news. Europeans are finally awake to the complete disaster of globalisation and American-inspired mass migration. And the attempt by elites to undermine the indigenous ethnic, cultural and racial identities of Europeans in order to create a U.S. of Europe..
It sure seems ODD that only WHITE countries are being flooded with people of color. Couldn't be by DESIGN now could it?
MORE THAN HALF OF IMMIGRANTS ON WELFARE
700 out of every 1,000 UN refugees are resettled in USA
1 in 4 in Houston born in foreign country
Author RONALD BROWNSTEIN always takes delight in the dwindling of White population in the USA.
Des Moines public schools now majority-minority
As immigrant influx strains schools, Jorge Ramos sends kids to elite private institution
Surging ranks of ultrapoor in USA
Then again maybe it is by design after all:
Ted Kennedy is not responsible for the Immigration Act of 1965
Ted Kennedy not responsible? Did he fight it or did he lend his name to it?
Evidently the problem goes beyond the Jews. The Irish are in on it too.
Man, the Irish pop up everywhere: Heading the Treasury, packing the leadership of the Federal Reserve, spotted heading most all financial regulatory posts in the United States, lending their vast resources as printers of the currency to purchase media outlets, demanding that media refrain from criticizing the Irish, and promoting multiculturalism and diversity throughout the land so that the Irish culture can compete with the indigenous culture.
And don’t get me started about the Irish control of the university system, or those Irish executives in Hollywood turning out Irish pornography. And how about the Irish packing the Supreme Court to overturn the Christian culture (the Irish can’t stand traditional marriage)?
And, finally, how about the complete takeover of America’s foreign policy to benefit Ireland, to send billions very year to boost Ireland’s military budget so that Ireland can attack and threaten all of its neighbors?
Man, if we could send the Irish packing, what a country this would be!
Diversity to a Jew is when every city on Earth looks like New York, London, and Paris.
Diversity to the rest of us is when different countries contain different and unique: people, ethnicities, cultures, languages, cuisines, etc.
The Jew World Order is literally the genocide of whites and the extinction of all cultural, racial, and ethnic diversity.
German and Belgium pot buyers won't be happy if Dutch checkpoints re-open again at the borders.
Make no mistake... This was the plan after the invasion of Libya, Yemen and Syria got underway.
All we need now is the equivalent of Chelsea Manning or Ed Snowden at the DIA to surface document(s) that there was indeed a plan in place to flood Europe with the destitute from battle zones in Syria, Libya, Yemen and Iraq to enforce Martial Law before a complete market collapse which means Al Qaeda/Al Nursra/ISIS/ISIL coming to a "neighborhood near you"...
We're all fair game prisoners now folks!
Open borders work fine... until they don't.
Why don't they want to go to Africa where there is plenty of room to stretch out and relax?
What is it about White culture that makes it such a magnet for immigration when we are told constantly how evil and exploitive it is?
Are these immigrants really stupid and unaware of the dangers they face by insisting on migrating to predominatly White Anglo-Euro hellholes?
This makes no sense.
Guess Donald is hitting a topic which for political correctness has been hid in the closet..other countries have the same problem and looking for politically correct solutions..what happened to that old battle cry of diversity..don't hear that slogan much from the candidates when they are facing the voters...
NATO (i.e. America) broke the Middle East and Europe pays the price; Fucking hilarious, Europeans are so stupid...LMFAO!!!!
Three words : Madatory Public Education.
Western whitey's don't know how to think anymore, they leave that to the TV.
When you don't know how to ask the right questions you won't get anywhere.
Maybe it's a good idea to stop creating clubs like ISIS.
Just wanted to throw my 2 cents here as I am in Belgrade, Serbia and I see throusands of these immigrants every single day. They are not aggressive here and also we just let them go to Hungarian border and figure out where further. When asked if they wanted to stay here, they said no, becuase there is nothing for them here, they want to go to Germany. Most are young able men with a minority of women and children. This means that once they arrive to their destination, they will call their familiy where they have settled and maybe some neighbours. Men go first through the unknown, while women follow later. Some of their neighbours who did not want to may reconsider. Every immigrant accepted means another 2-3 in the next year. And things aren't too violent yet. But count on, that even down here it's about to get real nasty when the weather goes from sleeping under the sky warm to freezing ass rain. Europe will not be able to handle this and we gonna get quite a bit of barbed wires around Europe. What I am affraid of is that Balkans will be behind the fence.
Najebali smo brate
It's an invading army of military aged males. They have nothing to offer German society except violence. There is no work for them in Germany. They are coming here to steal, rob, rape, and kill. They are coming here for hand outs and free shit. And to rape white women. They are a literal "free shit army."
This is historic - the death of Europe and the European peoples - without so much as a whimper !!
The Jews have done a great job in removing even the instinct for self defense from European people. You have to admire their efficiency, if nothing else, I suppose. Convincing an entire race to willingly commit suicide is no small feat.
When Rome returned from wars and battles, they brought back free labor in the form of slaves. Similarly, Europe is getting the slaves from wars they waged together with their allies. This is a form of wealth or tribute as it can only replenish the bankrupt demography of Europe. It will be these people who are so called refugees now who eventually will pay for the social security of this and future EU generation. Time for Europe to think and act quickly to welcome these refugees as it is their blessing. If they fail to do so, it will be the end of EU.
They are Muslims. Muslims do not integrate into different cultures. They claim victim status until the achieve critical population mass, then enforce Sharia law. You can't coexist with Muslims. You have to kill them, or be enslaved by them.
So Italy and Hungary 'want' to keep these refugees? Heck, I would run special trains to TAKE them to Germany and Switzerland!
They don't want to keep them. They want to send a message to the rest of the incomming illegal immigrants that it'll be more difficult to get to their destination. I think it's stupid. Shooting them and piling the bodies at the border fence sends a clearer message.
I thought all this paperwork in Brussels was supposed to prevent war in Europe.Hmm....
Ask the Dutch and the French and the Germans and the Italians if they want more muslim refugees.Border controls in 90 days or less.
They said the banking losses in the EU were contained (Not).
They have lost control of their currency (worked great).
They have lost control of their borders.
They are about to have an enormous welfare bill foisted on them.
Europe is still very sensitive about islamic terrorism.Security costs will rise.
I have a solution forced labor camps for the men and brothels for the good looking women if there are any.
just imagine how beautiful europe will be, if you let in 200 million muslim black "people"
but dont worry!!! as long jews can flee to israel due to anti-(non)semitism every thing will be fine
Where can one find a boat overloaded with refugees? Asking for a friend.
NO! Not Süd Tyrol! NEIN!
Such a beautiful place full of white people. To imagine it is overrun with shitskins right now is the saddest thing I have ever heard. This is just a tragedy. A true nightmare. I may not even be able to work tomorrow for imagining lovely Süd Tyrol invaded by shitskins has made me unable to function. Not even kidding.
That's the last fucking straw. Flooding the Alps region with shitskins is just an unforgiveable warcrime and crime against humanity. This has gone too far. Turn Paris and London into 3rd world ghettos? Fine. But destroying the entire Alps region? I don't have words to express how horrible this is and how horrible I feel right now knowing a place that was heaven on Earth to me is being destroyed right now.
Doesn't really mention Malta which has a bigger problem than any other EU country per capita and per KM... They are being overrun. A full 3% of the land mass of the country is dedicated to a refuge tent city...
Imagine 1/4 of Sicily being decated to that...
All it takes is the will to stop the invasion but Europe's governing class treasonously betray their societies by supporting the invasion.
A few years ago Australia suffered from a flood of illegal aliens, mainly muslim, coming by boat from Indonesia. These "refugees" had enough money and necessary documents to fly to Indonesia from the ME and the money to pay people smugglers. At that point all their documents disappeared.
The influx developed under a leftist government for whom it was more votes. Australians started getting angry and the conservative opposition campaigned on "Stop the boats". The leftist government, most of the media, the usual "activists" all claimed repeatedly that it was impossible to stop.
Six months after coming to power, the conservative government had stopped it. The put some competent people in charge with the responsibility to stop it and it was done. Now the invaders don't try anymore because they know they will be wasting their money.
All it takes is the will for a sovereign country to defend its borders, and if there is no such will the lure of welfare handouts will swamp any border.