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Who Would Win World War 3? The Infographic
For those unaware, China is conducting a massive military parade on Wednesday to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the end of World War II.
The event - which is accompanied by a three-day public holiday - is important for Xi Jinping, who is keen to project China’s strength to the world, especially in the wake of the country’s economic deceleration and highly publicized stock market meltdown.
Of course the parade also comes amid heightened tensions between Washington and Beijing.
China’s land reclamation efforts in the South China Sea - where the PLA has constructed nearly 3,000 acres of new sovereign territory atop reefs - has regional US allies on edge. The dispute came to a head earlier this year when China effectively threatened to shoot down a US spy plane carrying a CNN crew over the Spratlys.
It’s against this backdrop that we recently brought you infographics demonstrating China’s South China Sea naval superiority on the way to asking who would win a maritime conflict. Below, courtesy of CNN, is a simple infographic which puts the militaries of the US and China side by side on the way to making a comparison that may well become increasingly relevant in the new bipolarity.
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Shall we play a game.
What about nukes?
EMP's?
Bat-shit crazy leadership?
So, you're saying North Korea wins?
The ChiComs will "win" by defeating our "allies" in the region. They know Obozo will fold like a cheap tent.
I missed this infographic before the Vietnam war, which proved once again that it isn't the size of the dog in the fight, but the the amount of fight in the dog.
A Republican president stepped in and quickly tied up the Vietnam war, after years of clusterfuck, then a Dem Congress abandoned South Vietnam. Some years after our victory the north rolled up the south. We had a relative handful of people left there then.
The missing question is: here, or over there?
Nobody wins WW3.
Unsurvivable - feature film:
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2015/02/unsurvivable-feature-film.html
Its about PROJECTION of force. How do we/they get the tanks there/here?
They forgot the column for UFO technology. USA 1 China 0.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOoXwxqeVzg
17 sec.
Bullish for gold, right?
Cockroaches would win... for a little while.
Israel starts it. Because they have been put at deaths door , they will refuse death, place your bets. The aftermath leaves us with a few billion less people and starts in days.
Who Would Win World War 3?silly question.... the USA comitted suicide on January 20, 2009
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/interactives/inauguration09/p...
Nah...Say my name. It took decades to bring it down.
Who's got MAGRAV?
Very astute. Someone is paying attention ..
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There's no war coming. This is simply a currency war. China is trying to flex its muscles. But the Yankee Dolla is still king. They bow to our central bank--just like the rest of the world.
Einstein didn't know who would win WWIII either, but he did know that WWIV would be fought with rocks and sticks.
And we can be relatively confident that we know who the combatants will be for WWIV: the cockroaches vs. Keith Richards.
Betting my bottlecaps on Richards to win.
I know which weapons WWIII will be fought with: Treasurys and petrodollars.
dolla vs yuan/ruble
place your bet
or
buy a little gold
to play it safe...
I sure hope that's the only ordinance used, cdevidal.
Actually, I would put my money on Jew haters starting it.
Israel, or more specifically, the God of Israel, will finish it.
fuck u and fuck israel
the jews are responsible and are accessories to genocide......
Pleased to meet you.
Hope you guessed my name.
You've just given me a great idea for a screen name.
Jen O'Side
It's not in mankinds power to destroy the Earth.
That's God's job.
If anyone doesn't believe me, read any insurance policy.
None of them cover acts of God.
all in your mind, ha
how about act beyond our control or acts we have no actuary table for.
why bring a belief system into something so simple? huh? cant fix stupid, oh but god can, ha...
Read the policy.
No money for you.
my neighor's dog fucks your god in the ass.
When it is going on all you see is doggod
Sounds good to me, we don't need this excess population when the inter-dimensional fleet arrives next century or was that the middle of this month. Meh. Time.
I remember watching the movie, it was way optimistic. Three mushroom clouds ? In reality there would be 50 to 60 warheads per city.
oh well... I need a tan anyway.
More than 3 per large city. Less than 60.
I would bet that with modern thinking they wouldn't bother hitting many cities with even one. They could destroy most of the infrastructure using EMPs and only have to target Cheyenne Mountain amongst other military targets. You don't want to poison the well, just kill off the competition and hopefully prevent yourself from getting killed in the melee.
Actually, I bet self preservation is pretty high on everyone's list. Hmm, what kind of nuke secrets did the "Chinese" hack? That would be the name of the game right there. Shutdown the enemy's defenses and then attack when you are guaranteed an easy win. Still go with the EMP stuff at that point. There's no reason to polute our new continent with radiation is there?
Man I remember seeing that movie when I was a kid in the 80s, scared the shit out of me. But the older I have gotten, the less I fear death.
We sould just build a Visa credit card bomber and saturate them in Visa cards. There population once hooked on the crack cocaine of cheap debt will come begging for more..
oh wait already done here?! wut?!
How many Chinese women would have to emigrate to the USA for the USA to end up half Chinese? How many WM / AF pairings are there in the USA's technocratric class? From what I can see it is substantial.
Not fear mongering here. If I were young, I'd hook up with an AF. The odds of getting a partner who wants to build a life and family is much higher.
It's the culture, not the country... If you want an asian woman for a life partner, then move to asia... The US is fucked, along with it's culture and society...
First off I'm an American and I'm not going anywhere.
Second if fat, jaded, tattooed and pierced is to your taste, then you can have my allotment of American women.
Third Asian women have the kind of culture and outlook that America had before the 1960s, bullshit decade that the 60s were. So I'd just be restoring America.
You do realize that Chinese girls got aborted until very recently, right?
So the answer is: All of them.
Social engineering at its finest!
China did not get the population it has by aborting all it's girls.
You mean their rapidly aging population? The one child policy started several decades ago, and they did indeed start offing female babies at a higher than usual rate back then.
That's a tougher question than you'd think. With question, the US could project power into China's sphere of influence, but they definitely don't want to, because they definitely don't want to get into a ground war in Asia. The population density is just too thick.
I don't think China could move large numbers out of China, and, again, they definitely don't want to, because thier greatest strength is the screaming billion chinamen in country.
And where is the most iimportant statistic, aircraft carriers. I don't see it in the infographic...
dupe
"And where is the most iimportant statistic, aircraft carriers. I don't see it in the infographic..."
The DF21D antiship nuclear missiles put them all on the bottom of the ocean 15 minutes after the US started the war.
Well, sure, once the nukes fly, all bets are off.
Game over man.
But note nukes aren't on the infographic either... leading me to believe the author was talking about forces short of nuclear war.
Then he's living in fantasy land.
Well, sure, once the nukes fly, all bets are off. Game over man. But note nukes aren't on the infographic either... leading me to believe the author was talking about forces short of nuclear war.
Anti-Aircraft missiles would need to be added also. Plus you would have to divide the carrier totals between atlantic & pacific fleets.
I think its because the Chinese have only 1 carrier in operation? But the REALLY important bit of muscle in any military breakdown is the nuke-boomer-type submarines. By far and away the biggest stick in any arsenal.
Partly true, denial of access to recources can be enough. One thing the US certainly has going for it (although they seem to be on the road to messing things up politically) is a range of allies giving - effectively - forward operating bases in the area. China has no such advantage. Logistically China has no chance conventionally, so as long as US negate free trade/shipping/logistics, they will win by default. Basically, similar story as versus Japan in the old days, or as GB has been acting over the past 300-odd years.
Biggest task for China - in my opinion - is nailing a wedge between the various 'allied' partnerships.
Having said all that, why would China bother? As long as they can sell their stuff to the US and locally as well as Africa in the next decades, why even try to fight? Sure, USD and treasuries are going to be difficult but to be realistic, even if China looses a trilion in becoming the new powerhouse and reserve currency (which I doubt), it is a bargain versus fighting a major war.
We get their tanks there.
They don't get their tanks here.
WWIV fougth with sticks and stones.
Chinese have been fighting with sticks for thousands of years.
I never understood breaking boards though.
Who ever got attacked by a board?
Not really. Whatever remains after the WWIII will be of slightly higher technological level than the stone age. WWIV will be probably fought with something like the T34 than anything else.
I know I know
The banksters in their bunkers
"Those miserable masses of paupers will certainly not be a serious menace to the independence of Western nations. As long as there is a need for weapons, the entrepreneurs of the market society will never stop producing more efficient weapons and thus securing to their countrymen a superiority of equipment over the merely imitative noncapitalist Orientals."
Ludwig von Mises, Human Action, Volume II p. 671 (1949)
Silly old racist couldn't see the future very well could he.
Sarcasm?
and there will always be scumbags willing to sell those more efficient weapons to evil dipshits all over the world
And then the US was turned into a bunch of homosexual communist sheep, who scream in terror when they see the guns that protect them, give courage awards to men who wear dresses ratherthan war heroes, and think big jelly butts are actually attractive.
are you suggesting theres alot of fight left in americans?
between the flouride, high fructose corn syrup, the chronic cultural malaise and demasculation into man children,
I think the chinese get the check mark in their box for small dogs with big fight.
None of those things seem to be working on the inhabitants of Feguson, Missouri (for one example of a growing trend).
Or is fluoride racist in its effects?
hedgeless_horseman
Mind you the US is no longer the dog with a bite.
The US is a pig with a snout.
Infograph DEBT and you will see which has an upper hand.
Everything made in china is crap.
Comparison is useless unless we can tell how much of those trojan assets each party has.
They make shit to sell to stupid americans so who has the crap?
They make shit that kills their own people and can't export to medium banana republics like the US. Whos has the crap?
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Hate to say it but it's most likely true.
Yet that also imposes a relatively short time frame for things to happen. The next guy will be a lot firmer in dealing with Chinese ambitions, which suggests that they should take advantage of this special one-time-only offer.
Gulp.
Fold like his butt cheeks when Reggie or Mike pull it out.
Who wins? Rats and roaches, and those fortunate ones at the ground-zeros.
I don't know but as Einstein said, the fourth world war will be fought with sticks and stones.
Of course the PLA has us outnumbered in reservists by about, oh, 50 million.
How many Federal Reserve divisions do the chicomms have?
yes but we have the FSA in reserve, a formidable force to be reckoned with
you mean like light 'em and roll them along the Great Wall?
No, just point and say "they have all your stuff."
As soon as they learn how to walk across the Pacific, I'll be scared.
There is only one nation in the world that has any significant power projection capability.
Plus a ring of conveniently nearby allied littoral bases surrounding its enemy, who is excruciatingly vulnerable to blockade of its maritime supply lines.
China, like Germany before it, is a continental power.
China today is like Germany 80 years ago the way your bustle is to a bubble butt.
Probably true. At the time, either 1914 or 1939 (your pick), Germany was probably the strongest military power on the planet. China today, so far as I know, makes no such claim of pre-eminence.
But it's still a continental power facing an oceanic war, if that's what it comes down to.
You say oceanic war, I say trajectory war.
One thing is certain: it won't be a land war.
You can't put a maritime blockade in effect if your radioactive carrier battle groups are on the bottom of the ocean.
CBRs are only useful when raping defenseless countries like Libya. Against a real military power they are floating coffins.
If you want to elevate this to a nuclear exchange, oceanic commerce is dead due to the lack of port facilities on either end of the ocean.
Works even better than a naval blockade. 100% effective.
Carriers key asset is their mobility. No land-based weapon has ever claimed a fleet-sized carrier although kamikazes got a CVL off Leyte in 1944.
First time for everything, of course, and the times they are a changin, but it's silly to suppose that China is advancing in offensive measures but the USN is standing pat defensively. War is full of surprises, especially at the outset, but one should not bet on all the surprises happening on one side of the ledger.
You're assuming you see all of the USA's high cards.
Weirder things are flying than you will ever know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=146&v=wySFvmvr6Mg&ab_channel=MisterEnigma
http://sploid.gizmodo.com/5865808/has-nasas-satellite-captured-an-uniden...
they will take alaska for debts owed to them
If they take Sarah with it, it's a good deal.
EMPs are nukes. Just like tactical nukes are still nukes. Use an EMP and it all goes up.
The "off switch" for all that cheap plastic shit made in China. We will pay up one way or another.
Great points, Fester!
Nobody would "win."
Fester
You DO mean the U.S. has the 'Bat-shit crazy leadership'...right?
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China and Russia will win the economic war by getting the dollar off of reserve status.
But EVERYONE will lose the actual war when the U.S. decides that it needs to stimulate the economy via nuking the shit out of everything as a last resort.
China has something like 250 nuclear weapons compared to 7100 owned by the US. That easily answers the queston
http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat
I'm under the impression carrier groups come in handy during a war, too.
The war starts with four bright flashes in Norfolk, San Diego, Bremerton and Everett. I wouldn't want to be near Yokasuka when it starts either.
WW3 already started, havent you heard of the treasury sales and the chemcial factory explosions? Arch Duke Ferdinand shit.
Speaking of chemical factories, why would nukes need to be launched by an enemy when the US has stockpiles of nuclear material laying everywhere? Just taking a hit at any plant would do the trick would it not?
Those bases only support the fleets. The Battle Groups are typically out and about terrorizing the world.
They should at $7 million a day. Of course no one will be around to pay the invoice
Thirty years ago, the military said that they expect the aircraft carriers would last three days.
I would not count on many of them actually working:
http://www.ap.org/index/ap-in-the-news/us-nuclear-weapons
No winners.
MIC and the banksters think they will win.
They always have before.
"Imagine a time when it all began
In the dying days of the war
A weapon that would settle the score
Whoever found it first
Would be sure to do their worst
They always had before..."
As Rad keeps emphasizing, it is different this time...
Rush/Power Windows/Manhattan Project/1985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkicdO_64w
True! However, you need a president who believes in protecting the United States. The Chinese could vaporize Anchorage and MAObama would blame global warming. And if pressed, he would ask the Chinese how we should surrender.
President of what. If attacked, a standing army, and fixed fortifications will be fuck as all worthless. Better familiarize yourself wtih your RTBA.
It answers the question easily if you realize that nuclear warfare is non-symmetric. Even a single warhead can bring about unacceptable losses--ie it can kill the people in charge. 250 is a death sentance for those in charge, so they would never push them to use them.
Easily answers what quetion? Which country will success in make the earth permanently uninhabiltable by human being. Are there any Adults besides tyler Durden left in the world?
Adults understand that science actually provides information about the real world. It has developed an almost flawless sent of techiques to explore the physical universe. This has been generally referred to as reason, a function of cortical brain process created and orperating in the real world and extremely effetive in identiying entities, processes and the physical transformation that create new forms of entities and processes in a seemingly unending transformation or unfolding of the basic constituents of matter and energy. An adut know that in the vast expanse of the universe there is a force (popularized by George Lucas) that binds it all together. Adult dont' cofuse this fundamental force with the idea of an anthorpomorphied fictional higher power called God who actually concerns himself with the behavior and path of the human species. This binding force is the creator and creation has no regarding the development, evolutional, and eventual transformation of human beings. It's neutral about it. Doesn't give two shits whether the human species lives or dies.
Children lack faith in themselves to cope with this fundamental reality of existence and use various psychological techniques, primariy one of the most simple - denial - to escape the resonsibility of accepting this reality.
Yet another quality of experience overcomes the adult view of the world. it is the most decadent and distorted types of human mental processes. These are greed, fear, and the desire to dominate others. It is unfortuante, and ultimately the downfall of the human race, that this power mad segement of human society has and will continue to dominate and direct the Hegelian dialectic, moving history inexorably to the endgame of human existence.
250 nukes vs 7100 nukes you say? so what's the minimum number needed to make the earth permanently uninhabitable by human beings? 50? 100? Are we talking Edward Teller type weapons, in which case the number is going to lower. Or mabye just simple hydrogen bombs that can be denotated underground, because those incredibly low-life examples of human potential gone awry will make the case that we can use 'tactical' nuclear weapons.
I propose that we just nuke the middle east completely, from hungary South to Egypt and West to India. Just create a smoulding pile of nuclear radiation that will destroy the cradle of civilization. Then let's see what happens after that....
JustObserving:
No, it does not.
A few hundred is enough to destroy global civlization. What has actually happened is that civilizations controlled by being able to back up lies with violence, plus weapons that have become trillions of times more powerful than ever before in human history, has resulted in that kind of civilization becoming based upon runaway criminal insanities. Business as usual is for the human species to commit collective suicide more slowly, while war as usual is for the human species to commit collective suicide more quickly. Without some series of technological miracles, surpassed by even greater political miracles, then "We're all Doomed!!!"
Can't remeber the movie I'm quoting but it went something like: Not afraid of the country that has many nukes, I'm afraid of the nut who only has one.... (something like that)
Watch 'Unforgivable - Feature Film' to see a world after a modern nuclear war. No one wins. That's why anyone who strikes first is a fully fledged maniac as it brings down everyone and ensures retaliation.
Who will win World War 3?
(simple: no one)
Actually, "no one wins" is incorrect.
The Bankers and the Rothschilds win the world, minus perhaps 70% of the existing population, but to them that's the key part of the plan...
WRONG.
It's more than 90% of the population: http://thesecrettruthabout.com/the-georgia-guidestones/
I thought ZHer's were good at maff.
All must die but the Chosen...
That may well be their plan. However, I think that they are too criminally insane to comprehend how criminally insane that plan really is! They have morbid psychological and political habits, which have no guarantee that those have not become grossly unrealistic. The human top carnivores, or the men that were the best at preying on other men, are NOT necessarily right that they would be able to carry through their plans in ways which would actually work out for them.
The Chosen are not immune to radiation. We'll see if they consider that fact.
Their offspring can count all the cash with 3 arms and 2.75 eyeballs... they can have it. I'd rather be vaporized.
Quality is not expensive- "Its Priceless" nuff said.
Nukes, that's all that matters.
All China has to do is nuke Hawaii.
Or nuke an advancing U.S. Pacific fleet in the open ocean.
Yeah, because we'd just sit there and watch the nukes fall without launching our own?
Pffft.
The cockaroaches.
...and not just the shit-eating ones, either.
And dont forget taxes.
I had a discussion with my dad years ago about why GMO was intruduced into the food system. My dad without hesitation answered there's billions of Chinese and only half a billion North American's. If the two continents ever went to war, how would you beat the Chinese? Best way, grow bigger people. One big North American for every 5 small Chinese.
5? I reckon it's 8 to 1 at least
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Battle_Tank_3000#/media/File:Main_Bat...
Funny comment but the size of many Americans actually means they can't even turn around without taking a three point turn.
This infographic leaves a bunch of stuff out. Exampls are advanced communication, satellite surveilance and the ability to project power (think carrier groups and logistics)
I know its ZH, but the reality is its not even a close fight or comparison
You can be big and tough, a prime human speicific spenindg 8 hours a day at the gym, but you can still get slashed by a knife and killed by a guy. Size in not a very big factor in many fights.
Far out man! You dad was smoking some good weed to come up with that non sequitur.
I think Russia may want a piece. That should really skew it.
I believe in the Sevastopol treaty of 2016 Russia was allocated most of Canada and the US east of longitude 87W while China received the rest of the US and British Columbia. Stupid Russians got stuck with Chicago. Oops, I shouldn't be referencing that data yet.
Air and sea power. Advantage US
not humans or humankind
"Greeting profeesor Falken"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v11Y64dnnF4
Oh come on, nobody's nuking anyone. Also, there isnt going to be a war with China. Besides, if there was a war with China, how does this help your buy gold campaign? Unless you've got a way to trade very small amounts of it for toothbrushes and loaves of bread at the supermarket, you'll need something else to survive on in a massive Mad Max world where Charley speaks Chinese.
I though Charley was Vietnamese? *confused*
He's bilingual.
Neither, he meant Charlie Sheen who will trade gold for your cocaine.
so the ussa sent all the "high paying jobs" to CHINA....
but i thought trade and commerce PREVENTED WAR....
guess not...
so,
when do we get the jobs back???
before or after the WAR..???????
Ah, there'll never be a war between US and China. I've been to McDonald's in China.
I mean, Thomas Friedman couldn't be wrong about anything, could he?
"but i thought trade and commerce PREVENTED WAR.... "
It does, but only real trade, not trade predicated upon the banksters, and their slither partners, trying to maintain a scheme of plunder by forestalling price-inflation with cheap overseas produced goods underpinned by cheap "printed' fiat-capital.
Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity.
I don't know about WW 3 but the winner of WW 4 will be the ones with the most spears and big rocks.
Ok that does it. My next home will be in Boulder Colorado.
2 EMPs over Denver and Colorado Springs (NORAD) in 3, 2, 1.......
Seriously, Boulder ? One of the progressives' shining cities of Hopy Changy progress. Pretty on the outside - fugly in collective-think. IMO.
My car will still start where I am located in the above scenario.
NORAD is certainly shielded against EMPs. Good grief, even I can build a Farraday cage.
"Who Would Win World War 3?"
Zion, the MIC, and the banksters.
What did I win?
Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity.
As always, honest and forthright people, and Goy, will lose.