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Who Would Win World War 3? The Infographic
For those unaware, China is conducting a massive military parade on Wednesday to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the end of World War II.
The event - which is accompanied by a three-day public holiday - is important for Xi Jinping, who is keen to project China’s strength to the world, especially in the wake of the country’s economic deceleration and highly publicized stock market meltdown.
Of course the parade also comes amid heightened tensions between Washington and Beijing.
China’s land reclamation efforts in the South China Sea - where the PLA has constructed nearly 3,000 acres of new sovereign territory atop reefs - has regional US allies on edge. The dispute came to a head earlier this year when China effectively threatened to shoot down a US spy plane carrying a CNN crew over the Spratlys.
It’s against this backdrop that we recently brought you infographics demonstrating China’s South China Sea naval superiority on the way to asking who would win a maritime conflict. Below, courtesy of CNN, is a simple infographic which puts the militaries of the US and China side by side on the way to making a comparison that may well become increasingly relevant in the new bipolarity.
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Deep down I have a suspicion that both sides might even agree on a targeted hit of certain areas of each others countries. For China it might take care of some of their over population and for the USA it might get rid of some "neighbourhoods" that are causing never ending problems.
And let us not forget the possible use of germ warfare.
I'm going to guess that along the past 5000 years of the Chinese running an Empire, they've figured out a few things about upstart rivals and how to deal with them. Many options don't involve actually fighting, and they may be more advantageous to China. I don't think their military is meant to do anything but defend.
Oh yeah? Back in 1840 that means they'd had 4825 years of running an empire, but they still lost to Round Eye.
Can we please stop pretending that "The Chinese" are some temporally contiguous, wisdom-acquiring single entity? They don't think in terms of decades; they made the ultimate self-sabotaging act of stupidity in 1945 by becoming communist. They're no less venal and short termist than the rest of us. Even the most cursory examination of their laughably-designed "goods" and environmental degradation should make that immediately clear.
But they are still the underdog and therefore much beloved.
As Einstein said "The one after (World War 3) will be fought with sticks and stones".
What kind of insane moron would even think about going to war with a country that we are massively interdependent with and that supplies a huge percentage of the stuff we use every day.
There is no one who actual deals with China, who would think that there is any possible reason why we would ever go to war with them ... unless it was agreed upon between the so called leaders of each country to eliminate portions of their populations.
There is no sane reason or rationale for having any kind of argument with China, Russia and most likely any other country in ths world.
Yeah, because they make all of our clothes so American troops would have to fight naked.
Is that where the expression 'Going Commando' comes from?
Norman Angell says Ditto.
What kind of insane moron
WW 3.......
EVERYONE LOSES.
don't forget the axis of evil
as always zio-jews?
let them lose that war and make it their last war.
I see the Fox News crowd have hijacked the ZH comments section again;
"We'd win, because we've got more nukes."
"We'd win, because we're exceptional."
I've got news for you, no-one would win, take your tiny brained head out of your oversized ass and wake the fuck up.
The world would become uninhabitable, if you weren't killed in an explosion you'd be dead from radiation, starvation, no clean water...take your pick.
You will have to explain how everyone dies from radiation to the people in Japan and Ukraine.
Both countries have 1st hand experience in this field and I believe both countries have prole LIVING near the kill zone.
Points north of chernobly are still habitat and I think Hiroshima and Nagasaki are very large thriving population centers.
Did Japan abandon Tokyo after the tsunami. I believe the nuke plant melt down was only 15 miles from Tokyo.
Maybe you should get your head out of your assets and look around at the real world.
Yeah - nukes are bad as bombs but I just don't see where they kill off the human race.
I did say radiation, starvation and no access to clean water. There are many things that would factor in to peoples deaths after a nuclear war.
Your are correct. The die-off would be fast for most people. The USGov has a billion rounds for clean-up operations and elimination of "domestic terrorists" (preppers, constitulionalists, christians, etc.). The USGov has spent trillions on their tunnels and bunkers for their Continuity of Government. We'll see.
You will have to explain how everyone dies from radiation to the people in Japan and Ukraine.
Both countries have 1st hand experience in this field and I believe both countries have prole LIVING near the kill zone.
Points north of chernobly are still habitat and I think Hiroshima and Nagasaki are very large thriving population centers.
Did Japan abandon Tokyo after the tsunami. I believe the nuke plant melt down was only 15 miles from Tokyo.
Maybe you should get your head out of your assets and look around at the real world.
Yeah - nukes are bad as bombs but I just don't see where they kill off the human race.
The Fukushima meltdown was 140 miles north-east of Tokyo.
So.....how close to a nuke melt down can I live and still have a thriving, major population center ??
Idiot there is a huge difference between a nuclear bomb explosion and nuclear power reactor leak . See Hiroshima and Nagasaki still children over there have defromities .
And yet human beings and other animals still inhabit this radiation infested 'kill zone'.
Nukes are NOT the end of life as we know it.
YOUR the idiot if your pushing that bull shit!
Not a stat on Aircraft Carriers or Missiles mentioned.
This infographic does not offer a very comprehensive picture on the subject at all, and is in fact, nigh on worthless.
Aircraft Carriers US = 20
CHINA = 1
20 Carriers?
Wow!
If we fight WW2 again, we'll kick ass.
Too bad the mach-10 DF21D nuclear tipped anti-ship missiles can't be stopped.
Double Wow!! 20 new artificial reefs on the bottom of the ocean.
Don't tell the Pentagon. They're counting on aircraft carrier superiority.
No, just chicom inferiority.
Won't they be surprised.
Actually, no, they won't.
They won't even get off the launchpads.
Go shag in your fantasy land bull
"Too bad the mach-10 DF21D nuclear tipped anti-ship missiles can't be stopped.
Double Wow!! 20 new artificial reefs on the bottom of the ocean."
Perhaps the Chinese can build airstrips on those new reefs! Double plus win!!!
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
Lets get through the bankster wars first.
I can just see the Rothschilds in their ivory towers... Collecting their chits, before the main event.
J Frank Parnell says https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VKzqAefBVY
My money is on the robots
My money is on the ventriloquist guys holding the joy-sticks remote controlling the robots and talking to us through a vocoder effect.
Depends on strategy and allies.
Personally, I think that preparation has already started on all sides and the global situation and quality of leadership favors the east.
The third party that instigates the conflict and does not enter the theatre... there is usually a third party, always look for the third party.
It China attacked us... we would attack each other.
what is habbening to this site, srsly
Which tyranny would you rather live under? In a deteriorating world, I'd go for the Chinese.
The first country to launch a nuke strike will be the winner hands down.
Uhhhmmmm......, Nobody.
Edit: I'm sorry, but this has to be the most retarded post I've ever seen on this site, and that's saying something because there have been plenty to choose from lately.
In Truman's day, there was only one nuclear power. Today, Washington is not immune from a nuclear attack. Which is why I think a nuclear war is highly improbable.
One posibility that is never mentioned is that they wont use nukes. They could agree not to and everything else is on the table. War is no fun when it only lasts an hour and all of the oligarchs have to go live in a cave. The last resort threat of nukes may prevent war from going too far. Probably not likely but still a possibility.
Besides all of their new trinkets and bioweapons will be so much more fun.
Bankers win most every time. If they win this one we are fucked for many generations to come.
MASTER OF UNIVERSE has already won World War Three.
de Rothschild Bank is mine.
Is that a good thing or bad?
That depends on whether I get the gold bullion before the nukes get fired. If I get the gold bullion before the nukes get fired things will be good because I am a much better leader than the rest of the turkeys in the world, and smarter too. With regard to benevolence, I will most assuredly spread the appropriated wealth transfer back to the people.
And because you asked nicely, I will let you be treasurer to ensure all the money gets back to the people.
as long as the powerful people are fat and happy with their paid for sexcapades, there will be no nuclear war. the rich are having too much fun to want to blow everything up.
If we fought China I don't think Russia would sit it out.
Sure they would. Why get involved? Russia is a rival of both China and the U.S.
Well of course...... Israel.
I think the USA would, you know, we can see better because we can open our eyes all the way.
if our eyes are open, why did we elect a gay commie foreigner to be the president....?
when china collapses from civil war, the usa will collapse. no factories, no mines, no skilled workers, no real money, and a pc culture inwhich the idiots are pushed to the top.
like i said, when they collape...we collapse.
The U.S. has more manufacturing now than we did in the 70s.
The "death of U.S. manufacturing" is a lie. Manufacturing is booming.
And none of China's 2.4 million are already stuck fighting another war somewhere else. If they cross our borders, we'll all be speaking Mandarin and eating General Tso's chicken within 6 months. Perhaps we can agree to a neutral site? Might I suggest Wembley Stadium?
Oh please...
There are 100 million gun owners in the U.S.
There will never be a land invasion of the U.S. by any foreign military. The only invasion that could possibly be successful is either unarmed, or internal.
We're #1!
Neither side wins. Nuclear? The world loses. Conventional? Stalemate. We bomb the shit out of each other. Carriers? Not so important in the age of drones and hypersonic missiles. As others have noted, our vaunted electronic warfare capabilities get EMP fried or shot out of space.
Uh. You are aware that the USA military designs its eqpt. with EMP in mind.
Two words: Donald Cook.
It called Nucs you fucking retared. Also Chinese army is untrained, highly corupt and uncoordinated across branches. US miltatery has 35 billion declared and 30 billion undeclated 'black' budget for the last 30 years. Who do you think would win?
Edit: Also China would have to face the asian pacific alliance, and russia would not back up China. Futhermore it would be a naval exchange since the US has no interest in invading China. Which when you think about it makes this article even more ignorant.
Another shit aritcle.
another shit comment
That infographic is woefully over simplistic. First of all WW3 is unwinnable with a nuclear power because in any conventional war if it goes badly fast and it will for one side or the other given today's weapons then quickly one side or the other is faced with total annihilation and has no reason not to nuke the other.
Honestly given our vast lead in terms of the ability to project air power all over the globe this would end pretty fast. It would take about a week for us to establish enough air superiority to bomb key targets with relative impunity and that would cause any adversary no end of pain to the point that eventually it would degrade their ability to function as a society past feeding themselves let alone carry on a projection of power.
They'd have to quickly escalate this to unfun just to survive and I'm guessing that is exactly what they'd do they'd have no choice.
Straight to plantary wide stoneage if we were lucky.
No worries.
Our space based lasers would render their nukes obsolete.
deluded moron
Peasant slave.
Better check your numbers on China
Available manpower 749,000,000
Fit for service 619,000,000
Reaching military age 19,000,000
Active front line personel 2,333,000
Active reserve personel 2,300,000
http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?coun...
Using strictly the Numbers given and categoies :
Ground warfare : Winner is China, ( Infantry, artillery and tanks)
Sea: Winner is U.S based on Sheer size of their feet ( Subs + Frigates+ destroyers)
Air : Winner is U.S
Too many variables to count, if this a "tradition sense" War, No nukes or Strategic armaments.
They can't win on the ground either, because they can't hit accurately.
lol retard
Can't argue either.
Can't even drive automobiles.
WWI - The Western European Jew bankers won
WWII - The Western European Jew bankers won even more and rid themselves of a lot of Eastern European Jews they saw as dirty and unworthy of Zion.
WWIII - Before most of the Jews who were alive during the WWII cash grab die, they want to have one last party and go out with a bang.
Post WWIII the kids of the WWII Jewish bankers try to take what's left and play Mad Max. The WWII Jews never really liked their kids anyway.
Sites like Zh have been touting the Chinese Boogeyman for years. I read a few years ago that Chinese submarines were completely silent due to them being coated with a type of sound deadnening neoprene rubber. China has Rockets that put a man into orbit meaning they have ICBM techology. Due to North America's relative geographical isolation, we are relatively safe from any real land based or sea based invasion.
China would have to land in Alaska and drive down through Canada to actively invade.
China would have to land on the West Coast and be faced with tens of thousands of armed Americans who are warmed up from killing all the Liberals who would welcome the Chinese invaders as Illegal immigrants.
China isn't going to do shit as far as invasion. They will grind us down economically until America implodes and watch as all the peasants go bat shit crazy when the release of the new iPhone is delayed until Apple finds a new source of cheap labor to assemble them.
It depends on what type of weapons are deployed. Bio and Chems are not mentioned. What about black swan silver bullet weapons? The US has a new class of nuclear hardware. They use newly discovered nuclear physics. They are irradiation rather then radiation weapons. They produce almost no residule radioactivity. An example would be a gamma ray weapon. It would release focused lethal doses onto a maximum area of 110 sq/miles of battlefield or city dependent on many factors such as altitude, weather,terrain, weapon strength etc. Death would be within 2 days or sooner for most inhabitants.
It can't be too soon for me.
Nice article brought to you by the Ministry of Love.
The Proles are quite easy to control as long as they keep them in fear and keep them consuming.
There never were "winners" of war; other the the financial sociopaths that financed them in the first place. Cemetaries overflowed with the last stop for bloodlines of strong, decent people. Indecent, defective sociopaths played on the sand, rather than bleed into the sand. Martyrs (of any religion) are simply dead tools of fools who lied.
The U.S. would win. Same way they "won" WW2, by fighting it on other peoples territory. The numbers and types of arms don't matter a whole lot. At least not across a big ocean. As to where we would get our stuff from after. That would take a while. But a whole lot of the made in China stuff is not that vital. The U.S. would sacrifice a lot of allies. Their military, civilians and land, long before the fight might ever cross U.S. borders. ( Hawaii ? ) There are no Chinese, Russian, or other military bases, missle installations, etc, near the U.S.
Nukes? Sure it might be bad for U.S. and China if China attacks with nukes. But also bad for other countries. Consider. U.S. launches retaliation strikes at China. But, U.S. has to consider what other global threats might be thinking. If China and U.S. exchange nukes, they are both in a bad state. EMP is massive. Nuke forces are depleated. Border countries are awash in nuke devestation as well, because so many forces are along borders. So what is the situation? Western Europe, Russia, South America, Africa, Middle East, are in pretty good shape. I wonder how bad Canada might get hit. It makes sense to really smack us down as well in a first strike, if you want to hurt the U.S. Wouldn't take much. So all of a sudden, the U.S. is a real lame duck. While some major military and economic players are much better off. I don't think the U.S. is planning on letting that happen. We have to consider that any major nuclear power attack scenario might, must, include laying other players low as well. At this point, a China, U.S. nuclear exchange will likely trigger attacks on allies of both and bordering territory. It will be very big. Anyone launching a nuclear attack on the U.S. will of course have to target NATO in all those countries. Logically, there is no way a major nuclear power will take a hit without dealing out a lot of nuclear damage to many bystanders.
Long range strike capabilities. Nuclear or conventional. Means long range preemptive or post attack on those sources. Also attacks on varied allies. The U.S. has a doctrine of dominance. Two oceans and nothing but allies on the continent allow it to be more immediately survivably of any attack. Less prone to surprize conventional attack. But nuclear exchange is far more strategic than just numbers of missles. There is a strategic aftermath plan, that will be included in immediate retaliation plans.
ICBMs. If someone sneezes. We all catch glowing hell. Now that I think about it. The attacker of the U.S. Which would include attacking NATO. Might actually take some work away from U.S. Weaken western Europe automatically. If I was in charge of U.S. anti missle forces in NATO places. I might let them sit idle when the shit starts to fly.
I often wonder what kind of stuff the military has that we don't know about. Also, even if one or the other blew half the planet up you'd still be screwed by radiation(despite these claims of kill only the people, save the buildings) not to mention collapsed trade would be a disaster by iteself. Only thing sure is that a shitload of us would die.
'...you'd still be screwed by radiation.'
Not true, apparently, see 'Quick's' comment below, we don't have to worry about radiation it's not a problem, it wasn't a problem with Fukoshima or Chernobyll, according to 'Quick' that is.
I somewhat agree. I read a couple of very good articles on the reality of nuclear war radiation. A lot of it has short lifetime. But initial exposure is still going to be bad. The eco system buildup of longer lived radioactive stuff will be long term bad. But there will be a lot of incidental radiation from damaged power reactors, with long halflife. Initial death toll will be bad. Deathtoll over the next few months could be horrendous. Due to disease alone. Breakdown in municipal systems will be terrible. Lack of supplies, terrible. Controlling hazardous nuclear and non nuclear dangers will be very difficult, if not almost impossible. The deathtoll will rise massively abouve what the nukes immediately cause.
They've had shit we can't comprehend for a long assed fucking time.
Consider that the fastest jet is still the SR-71 (A-12). built 50 years ago, with slide rules, not computers.
http://www.historyinorbit.com/15-fascinating-facts-about-the-sr-71-black...
How do you build a jet with a computer?
You design it, prior to actually welding or riveting any pieces together.
You calculate stress, thermal expansion, and flexibilities that all affect operation above mach 3.5.
IT'S NO LONGER WORKING RETARD
Still works.
We just have better stuff now.
That's difficult for you to comprehend.
Living in a backwards country that never produced any jet aircraft.
Submarine based nukes.
Those are the big guns. If I was pressing the button. None, or only a choice few of my sub based nukes would fire in the initial volley. What a chess game that is. How many of my subs are currently being tracked? They will be sacrificed I guess. But...... There are some delays in getting information to subs. Or are there? That is way deep classified. I might have a system in place. Set off some subsea explosive devices in a coded sequence? No need for radio and such. Boom boom, morse code.
But. If they haven't thought of that. ( I want royalties if I just invented it. ) I have to consider letting fly my first strike, most strategically positioned, sub based nukes. They are usually way closer. But that gives advance warning of the coming cloud of ICBM's. Logically, I would not use them as a first strike. They would do clean up. Who knows how long after that first strike, that other nukes might arrive? Things are looking up. Communication is being restored. Communication is being monitored.....the information targeted..... Boom....
Nuke subs with nuke missiles. The gift that keeps on giving.
There will be a war with China because the world bankers cannot accept a strong, independent China.
The US, Japan, and India want a smaller, fragmented China.
A nuclear attack on the Three Gorges Dam would kill hundreds of million people.
"stuff made in China"
Yep, Walmart and Harbor Freight would definitely shut down, but I won't miss them.
USA hands down. Problem is it won't be just China. Ground troops meaningless. Well, unless they got off a sneak nuke attack and invaded us afterwards. These are fk'd up times.
Does this incude the secret space command?
No space weapons?
You're alive because they want submissive slaves.
Our machine replacements haven't been implemented yet.
God forbid the elite service themselves for a decade.
"Hey where'd all these asteroids come from?" - Chinese satellite tracking technician 3 minutes before the end of World War III
Any talk of "war" between China and the US at the present time is foolish and without justification. Economic rivalry is inevitable and is the appropriate forum to compete in. The US has to get its smarts in order and reconstruct its rotting economy. Whether the new Chinese islands in the South China Sea will last remains to be seen. The ocean is unrelenting and global warming is underway.
To Russia and China there is justification
The plan has never changed
Defeat of Capitalism
They will beat us at our own game
Then comes the hammer
Total b.s. propaganda.
China is a capitalist economy. Not sure how that "defeats" capitalism.
Just because it's state-run doesn't mean it's not capitalism.
You can like capitalism or hate it, but it's hard to deny that both the USSR and China were/are state-run capitalism. Witness the rising billionaire class in China... does that look like socialism or communism (do you know the diff?) to you?
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
God's not taking sides in this next one except to keep 3/4's of you useless eaters alive for what follows. Then WW4, then finally Armageddon which will signal TEOTWAWKI.
Unfortunately, you're forgetting to combine it with the SCO 'axis' and NATO 'allies' numbers.
What if they gave a war and no one showed up?
that is after the war
I mean, let the people who want to 'engineer' a conflict go fight, like O'Cornholio and his butt-buds. They could arm wrestle or something...
The first rule of You Don't Have To Fight Club is you do not talk about You Don't Have To Fight Club. If it's your first night, you don't have to fight, and that goes for every other night. You were born into it.
Theres no shortage of macho types or women fanning on men to protect them at the first sign of trouble.
Only 144,000 seats available on Elect Airways.
That's a global number.
China has already won WWIII. Missed it? It was an economic war fought over factories and jobs.
There won't be any shooting war - China does not need a war in order to get resources - it just BUYS the resources it wants or even entire companies. Middle East heating up? Oil supply threatened? Fine. China just gave 6 billion to Venezuela. Cheap resources in Afghanistan? China builds the new Silk Road. Cheap resources in Africa? China is there too.
Best of all, China is using Western Laws to buy what it wants - and letting the U.S. 'protect' Chinese interests.
One of the greatest failures of capitalist theory is its gross underestimation of the ruthlessness and callous manipulation of other people. In truth, societies become economically dominant due to hundreds of years of war and civil war - economy was a continuation of war by other means.
And as all of the wars of the 20th century showed, economic wars eventually become hot, and the economic pretenses are dropped.
The only thing it needs is customers.
The globalist bankers colonized China economically with flows of capital. The flows of capital can be re-directed to other countries, like India, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Guatemala, Honduras, etc. Is the Chinese colony trying to declare independence from the bankers?
You dont need customers, just trading partners. China needs to sell to those who have what China needs. Anything else is German style export for the sake of export overkill getting paid in securities that will never be redeemed.
The economic collapse in China has hurt many people in China. China may think it needs a war to rally the "troops" and to cull the herd, as there is a excess (30 million?) of young males looking for women to marry.
Once they legalize homosexuality in China, this will not be a problem.
Also, bullish on porn, prostitution, and sex dolls.
It is pretty obvious there won't be any winners in either the failing global financial game or subsequent war as a result of it.
Plenty of the ZH commenters realize this. But will the global leadership pull together and do what it takes to prevent the planned outcomes?
what would it take?
.
What do you think they do all day long?
There hasn't been a war yet, has there??
If push comes to shove we can always drop Kim and Kanye on them. Kim's ass will flatten millions of them. The rest will be rendered brain-dead once Kanye starts babbling to them.
The infographic is not remotely relevant.
The only thing that will influence any actual combat between the US and China is the terrain on which it's fought.
If it's fought on terrain outside the US continent, the US will lose (like it lost against the Afghans, the Iraqi insurgency, the Vietnamese... everyone it's confronted by itself outside its shores since 1900, except Grenada: the US can only win a war when it enters late and everyone else is already exhausted).
Plus, the infographic left off the biggest weapon: stockpiles of the other side's treasuries.
If push genuinely comes to shove, China needs only dump all its US Treasuries in one hit. The effect on the US economy would be about the same as hitting five major cities with nukes.
Imagine trying to organise a war when your monetary system is completely fucked and medium-term interest rates are rising 50-100 basis points a day for two weeks. It would be fucking pandemonium in major US cities, and if US strategists don't know that then I'm not here.
Think the PIIGS had drama when CDS were hitting new wides day after day? That would not even be a molecule in the bucket compared to a genuine expression of China's will to end the fight before a single missile was required.
They're playing Go, you fucktards think they're playing tic-tac-toe.
ok, the US would then block all Chinese goods from US ports strangulating at least one flow of funding for the Chinese government and military.
Are you trying to assert that the Chinese monetary system isn't somehow identical and also "completely fucked?"
Are you trying to assert that there would be no buyers of U.S. treasuries if they went on sale when the Chinese "dumped" them?
If China dumped treasuries, they'd basically be taking pennies on the dollar for debt instruments that they accumulated over decades. How dumb would that be??
Further, U.S. treasuries and currency will always be valuable as long as people want to live in the U.S. or own property/investments here. I don't see a lot of people worldwide clamoring to get into China. People go to China to get rich quick, but they don't want to live there... even the Chinese don't want to live there. Are you asserting that this is somehow going to change?
Include the US and Chinese allies.
Dumbest question ever.
It's agitprop too.
China needs a large land force because it its surrounded on every side, India, Russia, Korea, Japan, USA, Taiwan, SEA.
Why is the comparison with the USA?
USA is surrounded by Canada, Mexico and Cuba. I think ya can take 'em.
They aren't surrounded with usa. India , Russia , Korea are its allies. Japan is their maine foe along with usa. Taiwan is a different issue .
Russia and China are NOT allies. They both are rivals to the U.S., but otherwise have no love for each other, and certainly would not go to war with each other. They have fought border wars as late as the 70s.
China is surrounded by historic enemies. They are currently irritating the entire pacific rim with their expansionism, from Vietnam to Malaysia and Japan.
There isn't any reason that the U.S. should ever need to fight China, since China can be contained by other nations with U.S. support.
In 50 years, China's own demographic crisis will become clear... if the CCP has not collapsed before then because of internal strife (corruption, failing economy, etc.) then the demographic crisis will certainly do them in.
STJ, thank you, save me the trouble, but it is not amenable to reason, it is a Russian troll and will stay on message no matter what facts and historical vindication over turns its idiotic assertions and denials
Any way
'It' seems to think these are in fact China's 'allies'! When they are absolutely anything but China's allies, china basically doesn't have any allies, it has clients, business clients who trade, part of which is for weapons, and they would rather buy western weapons if they could.
For instance, Pakistan can no longer get access to modern Western weapons (maybe french ones, but I doubt that also at this point), and they admitted in the past month or so that they buy Chinese or russians systems as a result - but not because they actually wanted to! Their poor relations with the west (and almost total lack of trust remaining, plus India will be a key relationship to the US and Australia this century) mean they are stuck being a part of the Chinese client base, which is very small. And it is small because the products are inferior, and no one trusts them, and they don;t have credible capacity to be allies, and don't have the linkages they need for that. Burma is in a similar situation at present.
India is most definitely not a Chinese Ally - I mean how could anyone possibly be so stupid? And yet, it is, so it can only be a flat out lie it is peddling like a fool.
South Korea most definitely is not China's ally. He doesn't seem to grasp that China invaded Korea, and the reason the DMZ is there today is entirely due to China's invasion. China is South Korea's biggest threat, buy far, after the Northern DPRK, who are an actual puppet regime set up by CHINA and RUSSIA, on Korean soil! But somehow this equate in its bizarre fantasy world as South Kora and China being 'allied'.
Taiwan is absolutely not an Ally of China, and they are developing systems all the time designed to cause as much damage as possible to the mainland if they attack. For instance, this is Taiwan's latest drone (and it more impressive than China's frankly, but both try to ape the Predator and Reaper). http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense-news/2015/08/12/taiwan-defense-...
And just so you know, Russia does not have an equivalent system, and only now is trying to field a battle UAV/UCAV capability. But the US, Europe, Australia and Japan are so far ahead in drones, of every size speed, range and altitude, that it makes your head spin when you look at the plethora of systems they have. Even Iran has a vastly better drone capability than Russia, who still want to think a lack of stealth, a lack of sophistication, and a lack of drones can be made up for, by denial, and by jammers and long wave active sensors.
But it sure won't.
But the trolls will not hear of it, like Dalecks it's all, "This does not compute!"
And we all know how South East Asia feels about China right now.
There is no one to the West that China can call a friend, even domestically they have insurgents.
So no, Japan is not the only one that has a bit of a problem with China, most countries do, to some extent, and only mutual trade brings them together under those conditions.
So it is perfectly valid to ask, "Why is the comparison to the USA?"
And if you are going to do that, you will have to include the US alliance as well, because it China fights the US, it will be fighting against most of the planet to some extent, a global alliance, and almost none of that alliance is likely to vacillate if China got into a war with the US. So China's capacity will in fact be small compared to what it faces from multiple axis.
The relations with Russia are for trade and the mutual capacity to aid each other's lack of trusting allies, but they don't even trust each other much!
In an attacking manner.. China would lose since they cannot manage to ship all those assets across the pacific to attack. Less ships, Less Aircrafts. on a defensive stand point though.. China would win since they have more ground troups and artilleries. and tanks.
This is a stalemate and any attacker would lose in this situation and defending country would win.
How many paper dragons?
only one your mom
What the info doesn't mention is the 30 million men of marrying age who out-number their women. That's one hell of a lot of cannon fodder. And they'll be looking elsewhere for mates. And they've got nothing to lose. Example:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/14/opinion/china-challenges-one-child-brooks/
30 mil out of 1.3 bil is just their fag community.
The only number that matterss in a war between two big countries is the number of missilrs. That somehow did not make it to this chart.
When you have nukes, a ground war is stupid.
It's like two guys with guns deciding "Nah, lets just play checkers to see who's right."
If these phychopaths are so hell bent on killing each other, why not just go big? Oh yeah, it's not the guys starting it that are fighting it. They don't actually wanna die for their beliefs...just you.
What a B.S. dis-info-graphic. China has 1 aircraft carrier, not included in the graphic. It looks like, if China didn't have any, they were excluded from the count. There are 8,400 attack helicopters in the world. The U.S. has 6,400 of them. We have 4,804 nukes, China has 250, when you get down to brass tacks. We have about 14000 total aircraft, China about 3000. And who the fuck cares about "artillery pieces" in an air/sea battle?
And we have about 7000 battle tanks(not 2700), 6,343 of them are very battle tested Abrams M1 class, not old ass Russian Type 59s. Neither float or fly well.
Stupid graphic is stupid. It's just a joke to anyone with half a wet brain. Incomplete and deliberately deceptive. These guys break it down pretty good:
http://www.globalfirepower.com/
China employs EMP, pretends it was Islamic forces, Obama who hates America says we had it coming to us and does nothing. As a result of EMP 20 million Americans die from effects of EMP becasue of no working electronics, electricity down for most homes and businesses and the sick, elderly and the young suffer the most. But Obama doesn't care, he is cool with a doctor delivering a baby at 38 weeks and cutting it'spinal cord in half at the neck because he doesn't want to interfere in a women's choice and her doctor. China then decides to try to take Southeast Asia and most of the Pacific including Hawaii and Alaska. Obama is cool with that becuase we stole them from native peoples. Wait...the American people wake up, force an impeachment, call an Article V convention of the states and take the power away from DC.
Next our 73 subs launch their nuclear missles and bye bye China! Military weapons are shielded from EMP, they were designed that way so they could operate in a nuclear war.
It sounds like you really believe that Obummer has anything to do at all with the greater workings of the geo-political system.
derp.
If there was a world war there would be more people involved then just USA and China.
The difference will be how many countries end up turning against the USA for starting it.
I think most people in the developed world has no interest in fight a war for USA! USA! USA!
It comes down to who has the most nukes.
Period.
....but as inept as this nigradministration is,
it would not be hard to completely cripple Ziomerica.
First, attack with economic chaos... an all out attempt to trash the dollar and throw american markets into a tailspin simultaneously.
Then coordinated hacker attack on all possible infrastructure attacks with an EMP and physical (remember the assholes shooting the transformers) attacks to make sure things stay down.
Follow up with embedded infiltrators in utilities cut main internet optic trunks and blow main piplines.
Then you send in the navy with their nuke missles from right off the west and east coasts (remember the news story from kalifornia from a few years back?).
I don't think it would be too difficult for China to permanently cripple unKle zio-scam, especially if other actors suck as Russia comes knocking as well.
Go ahead. Nuke that fucking glacier where Buttboi is right now.
Please do not imply that the US has a military that acts on behalf of its citizens because according to Leon Panetta the US military takes its orders from the UN (the bankers and banking families).
The clear winner of World War III will be the cockroaches.
The US has non-nuke weapons that are not on that list that can destroy entire cities. Tesla had some amazing ideas that were co-opted by the MIC.
Based on the infographic i'd say China has a pretty good chance at winning in Sid Meier's Civilization.
If WW3 broke out, it wouldn't just be China vs the US, you have to weigh up all the countries militaries that could take sides.
China's army has no battle experience whereas US army has plenty of it.
China would be crushed. But there would not be direct war between two nuclear states - than we all die as nukes goes out. Also nor China, nor US would not benefit from such war as both economies are too much linked together. So there is no reason for such war.
no reason, but hate,
And I can think of only one group that is hateful enough and cowardly enough to start an all out war and sit it out in bunkers.