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Europe's Refugee Crisis "Out Of Control", Hungary PM Rages "This Is A German Problem, Not An EU Problem"
The current refugee crisis is not an EU problem, but rather "a German problem," according to Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban as his nation's borders are swamped with foreigners seeking to travel on to Germany. "People in Europe are full of fear because they see that the European leaders are not able to control the situation," he exclaimed after a meeting with EU President Schultz. He is right, of course, as we detailed here and here, but the sheer scale of the tragedy is worst than many could imagine. Orban defended his decision to erect a fence along its southern border with Serbia, saying: "we don’t do this for fun, but because it is necessary," adding rather pointedly that his country was being "overrun" with refugees, most of whom, according to the prime minister, were not Christians.
The disturbing image of a drowned Syrian boy has crystallized the crisis across Europe for most of the rest of the world...
And this morning's actions...
As refugees flood into Europe from across The Middle East and Africa... (At least 450,000 of Syria’s pre-2011 Christian population of 1.17 million are either internally displaced or living as refugees abroad.)
As AFP explains, it shows no signs of abating...
Europe is facing the most serious refugee crisis since the end of the second world war.
In response, EU leaders are acting in very different ways. Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, has taken the humanitarian high ground, declaring that her country will receive up to 800,000 asylum applicants this year and confronting the anti-immigrant voices in her country. By contrast, David Cameron seems to be taking a mean approach, strictly limiting the number of refugees Britain will receive.
And Hungary's Prime Minister is now daring to speak out - demanding action from his 'colleagues' in The Union...
"We Hungarians are full of fear, people in Europe are full of fear because they see that the European leaders, among them prime ministers, are not able to control the situation," Orban said on Thursday, after a meeting with European Parliament President Martin Schulz in Brussels.
The prime minister added: "I came here to inform the president that Hungary is doing everything possible to maintain order. We are creating now in the Hungarian parliament a new package of regulations, we set up a physical barrier and all these together will provide a new situation in Hungary and in Europe from September 15. Now we have one week of preparation time."
On Thursday, Hungarian police allowed hundreds of migrants inside Budapest's main railway station, but then the authorities canceled all trains to Western Europe, causing chaos.
Hundreds of people, many of them fleeing conflicts zones in the Middle East with their children, took a waiting train by storm, trying to push kids through open windows, hoping they would be allowed to continue their journey west to Austria, Germany and further afield. But signs in Hungarian said there were no west-bound trains, Reuters reported. It's unclear why the police had suddenly withdrawn, having stopped more than 2,000 migrants from entering for two days.
Hungary is currently building a 3.5 meter-high fence on its southern border with Serbia designed to deter migrants. So far this year, 140,000 have been caught entering the country.
Following talks with the president of the European Parliament Martin Schulz, Orban noted the current refugee crisis was not an EU problem, but rather "a German problem," as he put it.
According to Orban, none of the migrants want to "stay in Hungary."
"All of them want to go to Germany," the Hungarian prime minister said.
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The refugee issue can and will not be solved by the EU, or inside the EU apparatus, at least not in the way it should. Nor will the debt issue for which Greece was merely an ‘early contestant’. The EU structure does not allow for it. Nor does it allow for meaningful change to that structure. It would be good if people start to realize that, before the unholy Union brings more disgrace and misery and death upon its own citizens and on others.
However this is resolved and wherever the refugees end up living, we, all of us, have the obligation to treat them with decency and human kindness in the meantime. We are not.
Russia appears to get it...
Refugee crisis in Europe reaches “catastrophic” level as result of “irresponsible” approach to provoking regime change, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova tells reporters in Moscow.
Which means this is the tip of iceberg compared to what is coming...
The media focus on a truck in Austria where 70 human beings died, and on a handful of children somewhere who were more dead than alive when discovered. These reports take away from the larger issue, that there are dozens such cases which remain unreported, where there are no camera’s present and no human interest angle to be promoted that a news outlet thinks it can score with.
Brussels and Berlin must throw their energy and their efforts at ameliorating the circumstances in the countries the refugees are fleeing. They need to acknowledge the role they have played in the destruction of these countries. But the chances of any such thing happening are slim to none. Therefore countries like Greece and Italy must draw their conclusions and get out, or they too will be sucked down into the anti-humanitarian vortex that the EU has become.
Europe needs to look at the future of this crisis in very different ways than it is doing now. Or it will face far bigger problems than it does now.
Italy’s Corriere della Sera lifted part of the veil when it said last week (Google translation):
The desperation of millions of human beings, manipulated by traffickers and by terrorist groups is also an instrument of disintegration of the countries of origin and of destabilization of the host countries.
It is estimated that sub-Saharan Africa will have 900 million more inhabitants in the next twenty years. Of these, at least 200 million are young people looking for work. The chaos of their countries of origin will push them further north.
That is the future. It will no more go away by itself, and by ignoring it, than the present crisis, which, devastating as it may be, pales in comparison. Europe risks being overrun in the next two decades. And as things stand, it has no plans whatsoever to deal with this, other than the military, and police dogs, barbed wire, tear gas, fences and stun grenades.
This lack of realism on both the political and the humane level will backfire on Europe and turn it into a very unpleasant place to be, both for Europeans and for refugees. Most likely it will turn the entire continent into a warzone.
The only solution available is to rebuild the places in Syria and Libya et al that the refugees originate from, and allow them to live decent lives in their homelands. If Brussels, and Washington, fail to realize this, things will get real ugly. We haven’t seen anything yet.
So far the EU changes have been a disaster...
And all this to get a gas pipleine across Syria!!!
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Truly horrifying and tragic. I'm impressed Tyler ran the photo of Aylan. May he rest in peace.
Multi-culturalism doesn't work, at least somebody is getting it.
Europe is full. So is America.
End the welfare state now.
Japanese and German population declines are not aberrations...they are the trend setters in a secular declining growth rate globally and likely move toward outright global population declines.
http://econimica.blogspot.com/2015/09/secular-sea-change-depopulation-viewed.html
And the flipside...all population growth moving to Africa...
http://econimica.blogspot.com/2015/08/growth-now-and-in-2030forget-india-its.html
Fuck Martin Schultz -- any chance he gets he pushes for a larger EU.
Africa will reduce itself to anarchy with an additional 1 billion people there -- where the current population cannot survive with assistance from the West.
All you people who like charts -- plot world population and world debt on the same chart.
When the debt bubble explodes -- African population problem will solve itself.
Africa can't get past tribalism. Or as PJ O'Rourke would say, "How to make nothing from everything"
This is the real blowback. And it may be too late. The western world is dissolving in its arrogance and better-than-thou-ness, a.k.a. multiculturalism. Tragic, because our cultures were so successful. We threw away the good part, and now we see what's left over. All because of a very small group at the top.
Yeah, it's like the crazies of bohemian grove took their cremation-of-care mantra onto the global stage and make video feeds of it to feed their satanic insanity.
it's the Globalist's plan to overwhelm all borders, all nations...all across the entire world. It's no coincidence how they've caused all these wars in MENA and Mexico, then opened all borders to over-run Western nations to destroy the system.
Cloward and Piven. Hegelian Dialectic: Problem, Reaction, Solution.
This is an all-out assault against everybody, everywhere on the entire planet.
The Globalists want a one world government...the NWO. They will continue to cause these humanitarian crisis globally and they will continue to cause wars all over the place until everything just collapses and millions or even billions die as they wish to happen via all of this shit and through Agenda 21. That's what they've wanted all along anyway.
Causing racial and national division is their favorite thing to do. Get nationalism rising and foment racism whether it's really true or not...they don't care...many desperate people who don't understand the game being played agains them will fall for it or "choose a side" or whatever.
Then the NWO government, probabaly via the U.N. scumbags will swoop in acting as the saviors for all of us at some point after everyone is just plain fucking wiped out and tired of it all. And they'll get their way. No more rights and freedoms as much of the world had over the last 70 years or so. They will force this trade-off and bring tyranny down on the entire planet.
Draconian rule will prevail unless these fuckers are wiped out first. But they're coming at us full-force now with everything but nukes because they know millions are waking up to their evil plans every day and they are freaked the fuck out that they'll end up losing at some point soon. So it's a full-on full-spectrum assault from every fucking direction right now.
Not sure how to fight it...people like us (who aren't yet even close to the majority) understand the game being played and don't fall for all the lies and derisive bullshit. We just have to keep making other people understand and then see how all this shit's going to play out.
I don't think we have much more time though. Once they collapse the markets they'll probabaly create the next world war.
The borders to that war are likely to be everywhere. Prepare accordingly...
Just spitballing here, but it seems to me that Egypt and Saudi Arabia have quite a bit of space available.
But they lack the generous social welfare programs of the European socialist states.
His name was Aylan. His name was Aylan. His name...was Aylan.
Sadness.
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/chris-alexander-to-investigate-re...
I am enraged and saddened by the photo of the little Syrian boy. Until you have lost a little one in a tragedy, you cannot understand how personally affecting this is.
Sorry...
Europeans better start learning the Koran. As Muslims gain the up hand as majority and the laws change, those Christians and Jew who kling to their unfashionable faith as infidels may meet the swift blade of Akhbar's sword in the town square.
So one picture of a dead kid on a beach and now everybody who wants secure borders WANTS ALL THE CHILDREN TO DIE. Think about the children!!!!!!!!!
Why does Zero Hedge fall for such obvious propaganda and manipulation?
It's HIGHLY INTERESTING That Murkel would do Sweet Fucking Shit for her GREEK EU Brothers In Distress, Butt Does Everything For
Illegal Immigrants Swamping The EU...
Radical Islam is to blame. You can't live with a group like ISIS crucifying your citizens. They need to be eradicated. Word to your mother.
That kid drowned fleeing from TURKEY to Greece.... Why the FUCK would they risk their lives fleeing from relative safety in Turkey.
This entire migration-spin-circus is media driven as always. A self-reinforcing cycle.
Lets be clear. I feel ZERO guilt when seeing all the photos and all the "heart-wrenching" stories. I have no part in this play except I am the target of a GUILT-CAMPAIGN driven by the media.
If the EU had spent a tiny fraction of what they now have to spend on these "migrants" on building proper refugee-camps for them in eastern Turkey there would be no problems like this. And when I say EU I mean the fucking politicians and their ilk. They should be fucking shot, quartered and their limbs sent to the 4 corners of the EU. And while we are at it, lets fucking ban and expel the fucking tribe from Europe AGAIN. Take from them all business ownership. All the fucking media shares. And throw them the FUCK OUT. It is they who are driving this shit.
There will be war in europe again, and I feel like crying. It's the same shit all over again. When will we EVER learn.
That dead kid on the beach, the dead refugees in the truck, the drowned refugees every day in the Mediterranean - every last one of them died as a result of the U.S. fucking up their country so bad they had to leave.
'Secure' borders? For fuck's sake - when is the world going to have the balls to bring the U.S. government to the Hague for genocide and crimes against humanity?
If the world would put a fucking leash on the U.S., you wouldn't have millions of people fleeing their hell-hole of a country to yours that the U.S. freedomized, democratized and color revolutionized.
Geography hint: most of the countries the U.S. fucks up will be sending their refugees to Europe. Maybe you should stop supporting the psychopathic fucks that run the U.S. and their refugee-generating crimes against humanity.
It's not the people of the U.S. who are fucking up their countries so bad they had to leave. Those countries have always been mostly fucked up ruled by brutal dictators.
If anyone should take some blame in the U.S., it's the elites and the regime in the White House.
Quit drinking the kool aid. Saddam, Qaddafi, Assad, and Mubarak were tough leaders holding together peaceful secular countries. Countries that had womens rights and women in high positions plus no Al Qaeda or ISIS. If these guys were so brutal why were the incarceration rates per hundred thousand, before the US and it's regime change agenda showed up, a tiny fraction of that bastion of freedom USA? The propaganda of imminent massacres was all propaganda to justify regime change by the US and it's puppets. Real citizens of those countries would tell you if you weren't a danger to the government they left you alone. The initial cause of the Arab Spring was the IMF and it's draconian dictates. No more subsidies for food and fuel, which comprised a large part of the income of the majority of people in Egypt and Syria, along with having to sell off government owned industries which they sold to cronies. The US took advantage of that unrest to throw Mubarak under the bus and pave the way for the Muslim Brotherhood. In Syria the US and Saudi Arabia infiltrated jihadis and weapons from Libya, the real reason Ambassador Stevens and the large contingent of CIA were in Benghazi, to take advantage of the protests to initiate regime change. It has been proven that the vast majority of rebels in Syria are foreign jihadis. Putin is laughing his ass off as trouble in his Muslim republics is down huge as the jihadis head to Syria. Libya was the most properous country in Africa and employed thousands of would be boat people who sent money home that created more jobs and stability. Libya invested heavily in Africa directly or the through the Libyan development fund creating even more jobs and prosperity. All of that is gone. With the help of "liberated" Libyan weapons Al Qaeda in Africa, and the Sinai, has gone from a nothing to hyper growth mode. Then we have US drones killing thousands of innocent people in at least 10 countries and now the Saudi's using Yemeni civilians, who are dying by the thousands, for target practice with their recent invasion that the US has never condemned. We have the dictator Bashar in Sudan who is a true brutal dictator that makes Saddam, Assad, Qaddafi, and Mubarak look like choir boys and is propped up by the US. Near the end of the Libyan war he invaded southern Libya to secure the oil fields as a favor to the Europeans. Here's a guy wanted by the World Court who travels freely with no fear of being arrested. This is the real story not that crapola Obama and his lapdog press have been feeding you. That's why the refugees claim they have a right to be in Europe because it's the US and it's European minions that destroyed their countries and economies.
It took Europe centuries of religious wars, persecution and yes, beheadings, to finally find a way out. Now there going to have to do it all over again. Anyway, in the long run, 300 years from now, maybe it's not a bad thing. I mean, who cares that Europe will no longer be Europe. Just don't be surprised when your great great great great great grandchild meets you in Heaven and tells you that Notre Dame was burnt down. Certainly, Jordan would make a better place to house these people so they can return home when the time is right.
Plenty of dead children in Gaza beach... But those mainly die while playing. We don't see their pictures... I wonder why...
Closed borders are not meant to keep people out. They are meant to allow new tax livestock to wander onto the farm, while preventing existing tax livestock from escaping. Berlin Wall anyone?
Why do you fall for the closed borders horseshit?
One picture of a dead child and ZH loses their collective mind. It is tragic when a child dies, so I purpose for the children, if the EU can save even one child that the EU close the borders and send them back. It's for the children.
Cat Lady politics.
But the Tribe knows that you can abuse White Peoples' compassion, so of course they're using Whites' better emotions to destroy White Countries.
Like it or not..this is the biggest war refugee crisis since WWII. These people are War Refugee's...NOT, as the MSM labels them, migrants or immigrants. Spread the blame accordingly.
Young Europeans are jobless as it is. Now they've got immigrants to compete with, and they will work for pennies. A deliberate plan to impoverish Europeans in many countries through immigration overload, the beginnings of which have already resulted in death and hatred. You don't just go de-stabilize cities and countries for the fuck of it and not expect that the survivors of the destruction, who cannot live in their homes any longer, will seek better shores.
Were all westerners complicit in this madness? They were at best silent, that's for sure. Some sent their kids to war, others felt proud reciting the national anthem at a ball game. But did they ever have any choice in the matter? No. Their fates were sealed by their "leaders", and they continue to be.
There are foul beings on this planet, monsters that need to be slain.
Our stories of old told of 'heroes' that would slay the vilest of evil's spawn. We seem to be in a world where such 'heroes' cannot arise.
For one, 'hero' is one of the most abused words in the English language.
STOP THE WAR!
That's a message, a 13 year old Syrian boy brings to the world.
Hope the neocons are listening!!
Extremely sad to see humanity in this world slowly coming to an end! The only hope left is the youngsters of today! The greed of humans and animosity/racism due to caste, creed, color, religion, borders and wealth is humiliating as well embarassing! :(
ME, ME, ME...is all that works in today's world! Feeling ashamed to be a human! :(
In a powerful video, a 13-year-old Syrian boy nails the truth of the refugee crisisOh Jesus H Christ. I too am saddened by this sight. But the first thing you have to realize about these people, despite all the wailing when one there own dies in wholly preventable circumstances, is that they do not hold human life in the same regard as we do. Life is cheap to them. And they are dumb. I mean what kind of parent doesnt at least procure a life vest for such a journey?
That's probably because the hellspawn would-be rulers of the world learned from past attempts....and have sucessfully categorized those who would fit the 'hero' mold you describe.....as domestic terrorists. In truth, it's been done before.....but today it's FAR more easily accomplished thanks to the publeak screwel system and the iGadget craze.
Instead, they've turned the concept of 'hero' on its head, and our kids are taught that costumed enforcers of the state's will.....cops and military....are all 'heroes', who deserve worship.
@CheapBastard
God, if I have to hear another dipshit talk about the Muslimsation of the West and how they are going to kill the infidels with public beheadings in the land of the whitefolk I am going to seriously go apeshit. OK dumbass, I will speak slowly so you understand. The article above is about people form the ME who have been displaced from their homelands. It shows a dead by drowing boy who was forced to leave is homeland and try to find safety. Safety from what your simple mind might ask?
Safety from illegal wars of aggression started by the West from a deluded dumbass president who, not unlike the boogiemen you speak of, thought he was doing Gods work, but unlike them he actually did destroy entire countries and killed countless people directly and indirectly over the last 15 years. Safety from a bunch of crazy CIA funded radicals who didn't exist there before because the "dictators" who the West was so happy to dispatch were the ones who kept them in check and disposed of them with the utmost expediency.
So please go take that white trash, Fox News propoganda and whowever subscribes to such inane, unreality based phobia can summarliy go fuck themselves since the West currently has more blood on it's hands that all the terrorist organizations in the ME could only dream to achive.
Maybe a little reflection and soul searching might be long overdue. At the very least, the next time you see a picture of a body of a dead boy on a beach somewhere who persished as he was fleeing for his life from a once peaceful and beautiful country now ruined, you might reserve such comments for another article.
You're on the right track. But you're missing the most important driver: the USSA is doing the bidding of Israel. This is all about destabilizing, first, the ME and Northern Africa, and then the entire world, so that Israel can rule. That was the intent of 9/11, and it's working. Because the dumb-as-dogshit sheeple of the USSA buy the crap their leaders sell them, like "it was planned by a guy living in a cave in Afghanistan", and "buildings naturally collapse at freefall speed after a plane hits an adjacent building". I reckon that was the most successful false flag of all time. So does the little dead boy on the beach. That could be my kid, or your kid, and someday it likely will be. Thanks zion.
Oh I didn't miss that, trust me I have been talking about the false flag 9/11 to basically myslef for the most part for the last 15 years and I won't even begin with the USSA/Israel relationship. I was just hoping to not flood him with more than one or two simple pieces of information so his simple mind does not shut down.
On the other hand, it is always a pleasure to find another inteligent soul such as yourself (what else would one expect from a Socratic Dog?). But unfortunately for us, the fate of humanity has long been sealed by the incalculable force of the moronic multitude.
But they will also institute the Slave markets. How much for Mr Janet Yellen with the big balls ? Do I hear 1 dinar ?
I do understand. I have seen many children die and this is the one thing that will guarantee a nightmare for me. One toddler was accidentally run over by her best friend who was caring for him while she was away for the afternoon. We could not save him. Hearing the screams when he was pronounced and seeing the mother beating her friend over and over in the face will be an image I will never forget. The woman stayed still allowing her face to beaten raw without lifting a hand in defense. It was as if she hoped to die but security dragged the screaming mother away.
These deaths are personal issues not to be made into propaganda. That this is being used as such sickens me.
Miffed
we have a friend at work who is related to some child who got beaten to death
funeral is tom
really sad
only 3
http://www.startribune.com/savagely-beaten-little-dante-dies-murder-char...
Guy looks like this:
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/2011/10/twilight_zone_eye_be...
I don't know about propaganda Miffed, but for several people here, me included, that image personalizes it all. It should make everyone who sees it feel like shit, and demand change. Like getting the fuck out of the ME and deciding we don't really need to be the military arm of zion. Poor little bastard.
i am saddened by every fucking thing going on in this world
what a fucking life.
There are good things in this life, and they cannot be bought and sold.
Hope this helps:
Rodney Mullen vs. Daewon Song, Round 2
And they are Muslim. These Muslims don't want Muslim countries. Seems pretty obvious.
@Overfed
So then they are not refugees but welfare tourists.
I regret that I have only one green arrow for you. Say....doesn't China have several new, vacant cities?
"Culture of Critique" deals rather explicitly with this "very small group at the top".
We destabilse the MidEast and this what you get.
OK now how do you deal with the fallout?
Grant them TEMPORARY ASYLUM only, once their countries are relatively stable they go back
If you're gonna let em in, then stop making them risk their lives and just arrange safe transport already.
In the meantime stop waiving dead babies on TV.
A few dead kids wash up on European soil and everyone freaks, meantime ISIS is decapitating and burning people alive and everybody snoozes.
Probably slaughtered a couple of hundred kids just like this one.
Tribalism or nationalism. Just another ism...
Take Lybia. Have the UN take it over. Declare it a World state. Have the IMF fund housing and factorys. And give them EBT. Hillary can be the El Presidentie for life. See how long she lasts.
The left will yell "colonialism" but it's the only option -- do SOME damn thing IN Africa and the M.E.
And stop this friggin nation building and democratizing and helping.
The alternative is what we see now -- utter chaos. European leaders WANT this destruction, as detailed well above. Alternatively, they can't organize a picnic.
Now, think about this. If it's not deliberate, what would those scum do differently? And after you eliminate the absurd idea that the don't know how to interdict this tidal wave of insanely unassimilable humanity -- when you eliminate the impossible -- what you're left with is the truth no matter how improbable. Ergo, they know damn well how to stop it but won't because it's exactly what they want.
Nation building? Democratizing? Helping? You fucking idiot, we are getting exactly what we want here. The plan is to destabilize any nation that shows any strength. Chaos is the desired outcome. If you don't see that by now you're beyond help.
Tribalism that was put into chaos by the Colonial powers while they plundered the land and the people. The balance of successful subsistence life was destroyed over a 300 year period. Say what you will about tribal conflicts it had its positive aspects too. Call them primitive if you like but they had very complex and ancient societies.
We in the west are just as primitive only we have mechanized and digitized our destructive abilities.
Once the colonial powers gave the tribal sects their countries back, they started fighting amongst themselves and their countries went to hell.
The primitive ones in the west live in Democrat contolled bankrupt welfare plantations like Baltimore, Detroit, or Chicago where gangster thugs war amongst themselves.
Oh, puhleeze. Their societies were anything but complex. King. Everyone else. You bet. Really complex.
None of them knew they were being "plundered" and they were happy to work in the mines and factories. Blacks made a bee line for the dastardly Republic of S. Africa so they could improve themselves.
You watch too many Tarzan movies.
This is not some temporay phenom that will stop with the winter weather. The bell has been rung and every sub Saharan, Albano, Kosivar, Syrian, Leb - and probably the god damn Royignas in Burma will be making a bee line straight to Germany before someone says 'stop this madness'.
This is flat out fucking insanity - yes, we all feel for them - but what makes a German refugee dump any different from an Italian, Greek or Hungarian one? (okay the food and hand outs are better). But what the hell are you going to do with them? Half the muzz in Europe are on the dole already.
And far and away most of these people are not Syrian. That are Ivory Coast, Albanians, Somalis for Christ's sake. These are economic migrants - not refugees.
I don't "feel for them" at all.
If they want to live in a better place, it's their job to make their own homes better places. Fleeing makes them cowards.
What 99.999% of them are really seeking is FREE STUFF and they're risking their own childrens' lives to get it.
i've seen it first hand, somilians, they don't fit and make no effort to fit in. they are nasty ass people. culturally they just plain and simple don't match. i've talked to them and they want out of merica because they feel the vibs and it aint good. most don't have the where with all to leave. stuck between racisism(hate type stuff) and not fitting in. kinda feel for their plight, but why the fuck are they here in the first place? ha, you and i both know that answer...
hey lets invade another country and destabilize it and bring um here, fucked up motherfucking mic bastards...
maybe we live close...
i live in a community of many somolians but the ones i know don't want out of america but want to bring more of their relatives back here,,,cuz they have it so good. free this free that freee freeee free and get whatever they desire..
now the latest is that they want to build a prayer room in a school at tax payers expense...
ppl are pissed....
i thought religion was suppose to be out of schools
but they will more then likely get there fucking prayer room'
they don't give a fuck about fitting in
they are costing u and i a lot of money. period. they bring zero to the table cept a backwards world of man dominated muzzie caveman type existance. they trash properties, they don't fit - period. and you are correct in that they have learned to "work the system". especially the lib tard educators. free dental in the schools, free computors with internet access. fucking pisses me off to no end. i work, i pay and they arrive and freeload and say(child) "we will kill you infidels" as one of them said as he got on the bus(9 year old). So i wait patiently for the bomb to go off at the mall of america, strapped to a ____________, proclaiming alah is great...
we reap what we sow.
Minneapolis or Columbus? Fucking Lutheran Social Services. That's who "sponsored" them.
So I guess that you cannot imagine being in a situation where you are forced to grab what you can from where you are and flee? You would never have a bug-out bag, never have a contingency plan with your family, because it could never happen to you, right?
And if you did leave, it would only be because you were looking for free shit so that you could sit on your ass and bitch and cause trouble the rest of your life?
if you are talking to me, wrong person as i have a plan and train survival.
ever try trying to kill someone on 40 acres in full camo? takes hours, bang(voice only), lotta fun...
ssssh, quite, v. limited movement, strategy./
then there is plain ole living off the land. go into the woods with a backpack only for a night, try it. u would probably shake in fear for the boggy woogy noises all around that are gonna get ya, ha...
That was for Sanity Bear.
MsC...the trolls are out in major force tonight.
So how many "refugees" are McC and Kassandra personally taking into their homes and personally sponsoring with their own funds?
It's easy to have a compassionate bleeding heart when those people are somewhere else and someone else is paying the bills for them to exist.
Many of those "refugees" could flee to other Muslim countries like Turkey or they could go south into Africa, but the welfare is so much better in the northern EU countries.
.. or we could stop cheering on the Washington-led destruction of their nations and they would GLADLY stay right there at home and there would be no refugee waves and associated fiscal burden on welfare nations.
This is an argument against taxation (theft), not against people fleeing UN/US destruction of their country....paid for by...wait for it....taxation (theft).
Settle down Rambo. We got it. You are a real mans man.
You didnt answer the question.
I can see clearly that any country has every responsibility to enforce its borders to anyone seeking entrance
And any parent would cross that border if was a chance to save her child.
This is the saddest, most difficult thing a leader can face. How to preservive the right of the individual in the face of a government made crisis. Iceland is proving to be a positive example. 11,000 individuals have stepped up to provide shelter, jobs and support. Not all problems have a big government solution, just praying people will have compassion, wisdom and know what to do.
Germany is about to take it up the butt as are most of the other EU countries. One issue is the citizens who will suffer the most [middle and lower class and blue collars] will take the painful brunt of the hungry, aggressive Mooslim masses, while the ones responsible [politicans, generals, etc] will still never miss a 7-course dinner, never be mugged on the street by a gang of MENAs and most likely will never see their wives or daughters raped.
It's odd the MSM and bleeding hearts evade the elephant in the room; namely, the root cause back home, and never mention a solution; namely stop the bombing/droning of their home countries.
This is just a Trump campaign stunt
If I had that many people I'd put together a fucking army and take my shit back.
And if for some reason I had to flee because there was no other possible option, I sure as hell wouldn't do it in a crowd of thousands to get easily corralled and diverted to a holding pen. That's not "fleeing for your life" - that's taking advantage of the fact that so many are fleeing that you can overwhelm your neighbor and force him into accommodating you.
Sad fact is, the only solution is for Europe to become a harsher place for them than the places they were coming from, and it would be suicidal for Europeans to choose otherwise.
Bleeding hearts get more people killed than hard ones. A LOT more.
+1
like it or not, these people come from shit cultures. cultures that do not breed innovation, don't seek enlightenment through education and sciences and have backwards looking social views. the current bleeding heart liberals have no god damn idea just how long and hard their ancestors worked to make their socieities great, and they willfully flush it all away by importing these trash cultures who do not integrate into ours.
prepare yourselves for the innevitable nationalist surge worldwide. the common man is sick of these trash cultures and religions. imported degeneracy and terrorism.
Obviously you've been around the world a few times to witness all that you speak of
shite cultures, and inbred ones too
Muslim Inbreeding: Impacts on intelligence, sanity, health and society
http://en.europenews.dk/-Muslim-Inbreeding-Impacts-on-intelligence-sanit...
Nicolai Sennels
Massive inbreeding within the Muslim culture during the last 1.400 years may have done catastrophic damage to their gene pool. The consequences of intermarriage between first cousins often have serious impact on the offspring’s intelligence, sanity, health and on their surroundings
Outstanding post, Gazz. I make the same argument.
One of the things missing these days is an appreciation for what our ancestors have been through and sacrificed for us to be where we are today, even with its flaws. When you do not appreciate the history and liberty you do not defend it.
Leftists, in general are willing to give everything away for a theoretical utopia that never arrives.
Bullshit. I notice you've been a member here for..two days.
"I notice you've been a member here for..two days."
good counterpunch. Now for the kill shot maybe say "bullshit" again, it validates your argument...which is what?
Exactly. The parents of that dead kid took enormous risks with his life. They failed to assess the risks and failed him.
The US and European nations, in particular the UK, France, and to a lesser exent Italy, are responsible for this. Their citizens should hang their heads in shame because of what they allow their political elites to do in destroying the countries these people originate from. Iraq under Saddam was a paradise compared to the despair Iraqis experience now. Syria under the Assads at peace with itself was a paradise compared to its state now. Libya under Ghaddafi a liberal and humane place by comparison with the destruction and chaos the UK, France and the US caused.
Any parent with a shred of humanity must weep at the sight of this picture of this innocent child. His death if nothing else, surely strikes home to us the human tragedy being caused. It is time for all of us in the "West" to call a halt to this sinister evil in our midst; to call our so called leaders to account. Heads should roll, the pikes need to come out of the thatch. But I don't think we have the guts or the common humanity to do it. We are a decadent civilisation, rushing madly to decay and dissolution. And it couldn't happen to a more deserving rabble.
Fuck you.
Yes, the image of the child is tragic, but a Superdome full of people die worldwide on a daily basis.
Let us not forget that in many Middle Eastern countries those sweet little babies are schooled in hatred and have been for a looooong time.
Zombie Muzzie hoards have been attempting migration into and domination of Europe well over a thousand years.
To blame all this on the U.S. and European nations is idiotic.
Yes, the dead kid is sad.
But do I feel responsible for their plight?
Not a bit.
You're quite a gentleman and a human being to so casually dismiss the death of a child.
If it was a jooish child he'd be pounding the keyboard shouting for tens of millions of "them" to die for the loss and tens of millions in reparations.
Spare us the bleeding heart bullshit. With the number of children who die in tragic ways across the globe, if you can't deal with the idea of a dead child and still keep your head screwed on straight then the problem is you. It's that attitude that drives the policies that invite the endless horde of third worlders into the first world and entice them to take those risks.
If the dead child disturbs you, maybe it's because you know your own bleeding heart played a role in making it happen.
spot the fuck on! bleeding heart noodle spinned fucks. oh, johnny here is a i-phone 6 so you too can be cool. and the churches and there sponsorships. list goes on and on. reality is there are too many fucking people when a world is run by sociopaths. oh, it could be soo much better, but it aint happening and getting worse as another 10,000 humans were just born worldwide. how come humans can't talk about overpopulation? huh, why...
It must truly suck to be you.
I hope you are spared the experience of having a dead child.
People who have dead kids never get over it. NEVER. You would have to remember all you posted here today in response to this and I fear it would truly be a straw that would break your back.
There was a movie out called "There Will be Blood" about the emergence of the oil industry. Great name. There was blood. Guess we are seeing the material for part 16 now; as we use our computers to type messages to each other, eat the food we have had grown for us and shipped to us, drive our cars to our shit jobs so that we can drive them home and to the mall to buy plastic crap stuff. There Will Be MOAR Blood.
Be that as it may, that is just ONE kid in the context of an insane importation of tens of millions of Muslims and other primitives into Europe where they will destroy that civilization. Other kids have died in the open sea. Does that not register without a photograph?
The bigger picture involves murder, assault, bombings, child abuse, terror, and demands for shariah. One sad picture shows what it shows but it would be madness to make decisions about unsustainable levels of invasion based on it.
It is true that we are a people who do not give a flying fuck on Sunday about dead children, our own included.
Several years ago I read somewhere, probably on the Hedge, that Bush and Obama were between them responsible for the deaths of 400,000 children. I've used that number a few times, and people just look at me like I'm an alien. You're right, people don't give a flying fuck about dead kids in the US. Unless they're dead kids who didn't actually die in a dramatized school shooting I suppose.
A people who don't give a shit about dead kids is a people totally deserving of what is likely coming their way. Their own kids won't be thanking them.
Divine Wind Bag !
Hillary said: We came, we saw, he's Dead......She took out Gaddafi in Libya who maintained order for 40 years - Women had the best education and medical care in Africa - the vassals in the EU - F / G / UK - did the bidding of USA - the result of the Empire of Chaos is .....chaos
now the BILL comes in - milions of people headed north - bombing Syria/ Iraq/ Yemen / Afganistan has consequences
Hillary was Secretary of State - a diplomat who is bombing people - and now they want her to be POTUS based on ......experience
americans are dumb motha fuckers and so are you wind bag
I am going to be radical right-wing (as in libertarian-anarchist right). This irritates me, to a degree. I understand that historically people flee rather than resist. That is actually how the Piligrims came to N. America. I also understand that people endure a hell of a lot before they take action, like Venezuela on the verge of actual starvation. I understand it is a bit safer for a Mexican to sneak across the U.S. border than resist the local drug lord. And if he/she promises to vote Democrat forever, they can get lots of Congressional support and free stuff.
What I also understand is if these people and their beta-male husbands keep running away their countries will stay shit-holes, even get worse. Their countries suck! Yes, Mexico sucks. Somalia sucks. Virtually all non-oil-rich Muslims countries suck. And it goes on to many other countries. I will add that their cultures suck, too. It is their cultures and lack of any higher honor code that keeps them trading off dictators and unable to form any society that can prosper or offer any decencies like civil liberties. They will bring those cultures with them because that is all they know how to do. You can count on them creating the exact same shit-holes in Europe that they fled in their own suck-ass country. Don't believe me? Walk into their neighborhoods where they are 90% the same ethnicity. They all suck and they are dangerous.
My suggestion that blends sympathy with reality is to tell them they can stay their in some sort of Fema camps. We are going to arm the men and butch women and train them how to fight. It will be a six month crash course. They can be joined by any volunteers from the host nation, especially their own ethnicity. After six months of military training we will send back whole battalions of armed trained people to their suck-ass homeland to fight and make something better. Six months after that, their women, kids, elderly and pets will show up on the shore/border. You win or die trying because your family is coming back.
We will equip them with local host Constitutions, law books and government wiring diagrams. We will give them holy books from alternate religions including atheism. We will throw in some philosophy books on liberty. We will offer advisors (except from the central banks) if they successfully overthrow their own dictators. Apart from that, it is THEIR job to make their own damned homes something livable.
I am up for spending the money on small arms and training. It's time for the better parts of the world to expand and the shitty parts of the world to contract. It will not happen by overloading America and Western Europe...where all those racist, caucasian, Christian-history bigots originated, right?
Excellent.
Isn't that exactly what we did with Cuba? How did that work out?
It was the right idea but we screwed it up. Nicaraugua was a successful example.
Yeah, let's all feel sorry for the dead kid and let tens to hundreds of miliions of these people in. Very soon, the dead kids will be our kids. Thinking with your heart vs. your head.....this is how civilization dies.
disconnecting your heart from you head is what created the psychopaths that murder.
>>>It is time for all of us in the "West" to call a halt to this sinister evil in our midst....
But, as you said, there is little hope that 'Murcans as a society will give up their God-given "exceptional" right to kill foreigners. The USA will change in some ways when the Dollar is ultimately rejected as a reserve currency, but in such circumstances the US government may get even more aggressive as a destabilizing force.
European "leaders" badly need to grow a pair, and develop an independent foreign policy (i.e. one of their own).
American taxpayer-consumer-serfs badly need to reduce any activity which supports the US governing elite: at a minimum, minimizing involvement with the big-box, debt-serf, FIRE-led economy, and maximizing local economies and self-sufficiency. For real, and right now.
The above is difficult, but the only ethical alternative I can see is emigration from the USA... to any available, somewhat less depraved, society (which do, by the way, really exist).
WHERE are these "Refugees" finding the wherewithal to undertake such long journeys??
That one picture destroys any and all moral high ground these politicians may attempt to claim.
"Destroy the image and you will break the enemy." - Bruce Lee and WilliamBanzai7
All the devoloped countries has been creating this problem for a long time now, but got away with pretending it didn't exist since it was somewhere far away. Well guess what? The problem is coming to you......
Multi-culturalism doesn't work, at least somebody is getting it.
In order to pull off a New World Order, multiculturalism is a necessary ingredient.
You can't fix their countries. I don't think there is much choice except walls and barbed wire.
I'm impressed he used the term ' Refugee' instead of Migrants.
They'll put him back on script...
In World War II, the extermination target of the Nazis was the Jewish religion. In the ongoing World War III, now torching North Africa and the Middle East, the extermination target of the NWO, the neocons, Israel and Saudi Arabia and their muppet Obama is the Christian religion. Religious cleansing is now going on throughout the war zone. Obama's proxy army of satanist killers is leading the way. Europe is the next target on Manchurian Candidate Obama's list.
God bless that little boy.
That would be little purple penguin under the terms of Newspeak.
I had to Google that. Hahah X-D
Solution:
Send all of the refugess to Dick Cheney's ranch in Wyoming and his monkee's ranch in Crawford, Texas. Fuckers deserve pay back for the chaos they have caused.
BTW, Fuck Dick Cheney and anyone with Bush as a last name.
Love, Alexa
selective humanism at its best
what about that palestinian boy killed by Izrahell in 2014?
There was a foto of that poor boy killed by Izrahell bombs face down in the dirt.
Did that picture run around the world?? Fuck NO.
Send these immigrants all to fucking Germany.
Germany is raping every other state in EU for its own benefit
so let them have these kinds of benefits as well.
USA USA USA USA USA.
I'm sure Mr. Wolfowitz & Mr. Cheney would be more than happy to offer housing and assistance.
Yup, let's put the ball back in the court of the people responsible for this.
Cheney just came out with a book titled "Exceptional" where he lays the blame for everything on everyone else!
Time to ship all those refugees to Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, the Bush family compound and all those senators who voted for this bullcrap (Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, etc., etc., etc.).
Ah, Cheney! Will his heart take him our before the guillotines get him?!
Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity.
You must have missed where Cheney's heart was replaced with a water pump (for ice water of course) back when he supposedly had that "quadruple bypass".
I thought his heart was from a young Serbian boy....
Cheney prefers a shotgun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney_hunting_incident
Nice work Nato. Destroy Libya, let iraq rot, and do your damndest to destroy syria. Fuck all of you bastards who are overseeing this.
What goes around comes around.
And it saddens me to no end that Canada has a hand in some of this, and in the Ukraine and elsewhere
We are all Nazi's now! Can't wait till they replace that maple leaf with the swaztika
To top it off, even that Ass Hat Justin Trudeau has been spouting about Syria's use of chemical's on their own people.
Go back to teaching kids to paddle canoe's you bozo. And Harper kisses more Zionazi Ass than Obammy.
Je suis Nazi
Those countries are their own fault. They suck because their people and culture suck. The fact that the dictator is dead or alive does not change it.
The only part I might agree on is that when we intervene to kill a Qaddafi or Hussein we had better realize that what comes next might be worse. In fact, it is likely.
It'a amazing, what a shity world we live in.
Unarmed invasion by mohammedian illegal aliens. Act swiftly to avoid having your throats slit and your wives, sisters, and daughters raped. You are second class citizens in your own country within a decade.
Yup, seen this crap already in the Netherlands, France and Scandinavia.
The US has truly effed up everything and everybody, all in the name of greed, the WTO and their Financial Services Agreement.
Hey fucktard, lots of those people are Christians. I guess you are too stupid to know that.
Alfred: How many refugees have you taken into your home? Hope you're being a good host. Be sure to let them sleep with your wife and daughters.
Didn't anyone read the article? Al is correct. Christians fleeing ISIS and company. By that I mean 'The Company'.
Christians left the Middle East centuries ago with the fall of Constantinople. Why is why Israel is surrounded by Muslims.
Idiotic comment. There are lots of Christians in the Middle East being destroyed by the actions of George W Bush and Biffy Blair.
You'll be telling us next there were no Jews in the region after the Temple was destroyed and they only made it back after 1947
Where are these so-called Christians? Name the country and their population.
Keep your lies to yourself, shill. Close the borders; sink all ships.
Hey fucktard, lots of those people are Christians. I guess you are too stupid to know that.
90% are moslems, it's a fact. Even government statistics prove that.
So you sons of bitches want to kill all the Muslims and let them drown When it was YOUR govt that made them refugees.
Any wonder why the world hates you sons of bitches??
How can I upvote the first sentence and downvote the rest?
Maybe true maybe not, but those in that boat where not Christians they where muslims. Either way RIP Aylan, unfortunatly your parents let you & your brother down.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/03/europe/migration-crisis-aylan-kurdi-turkey...
Muslims like to kill, rape and enslave non-Muslims first and foremost. If they run out of those then they start killing the wrong kind of Muslims, like Shia versus Sunni. Then, if they run out of those they start killing the same kind of Muslims but from the wrong tribe. It's a thing over there and more popular than the NFL in America.
How can the course survive, if you kill all the moslems?
Muslims and Westerners: The Psychological Differences by Nicolai Sennels (May 2010)http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/63122/sec_id/63122
They are HUMAN BEINGS ASSHOLE!
So was Hitler. What's your point?
My point...
Pound sand 1week 4days.
http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/
I see the moral equivalence between a monster who killed millions with illegals wars of aggression and concentration camps, and a child who washed up on a beach trying to escape a hell that came about because of the original sin of the US in Iraq. I guess you got me.
The poor kid didn't try to escape anything. His parents forced him in this deadly trip and are fully responsible for his death !
Mainly they're in-bred
Muslim Inbreeding: Impacts on intelligence, sanity, health and societyhttp://en.europenews.dk/-Muslim-Inbreeding-Impacts-on-intelligence-sanit...
Why do fucktard shitheads like you think everyone from Africa is Muslim?
Do you know that many Syrians are Christians and YOU sons of bitches funded the terrorists that butchered them.
YOu are SCUM and need a bullet in the head,
10% of the refugees are Christians.