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Flashpoint: White House Confirms Russian Presence In Syria, Warns It Is "Destabilizing"

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Two days ago we reported something which we had anticipated for a long time but nonetheless did not expect to take shape so swiftly: namely, that with Assad's regime close to collapse and fighting a war on three different fronts (one of which is directly supported by US air and "advisor" forces), Putin would have no choice but to finally intervene in the most anticipated showdown in recent history as "Russian fighter pilots are expected to begin arriving in Syria in the coming days, and will fly their Russian air force fighter jets and attack helicopters against ISIS and rebel-aligned targets within the failing state."

This was indirectly confirmed the very next day when an al-Nusra linked Twitter account posted pictures of a Russian drone and a Su-34 fighter jet - the kind which is not flown by the Syrian air force - flying over the Nusra-controlled western idlib province.

 

Another twitter account said to have captured Russian soldiers in Zabadani "while fighting for Assad"

 

Also, one day after our report, the Telegraph reported that "Syrian state TV reportedly broadcasts footage of Russian soldiers and armoured vehicle fighting alongside pro-Assad troops." According to the article, "the video footage claimed to show troops and a Russian armoured vehicle fighting Syrian rebels alongside President Bashar al-Assad's troops in Latakia. It is reportedly possible to hear Russian being spoken by the troops in the footage."

It added that "a Russian naval vessel was photographed heading south through the Bosphorus strait carrying large amounts of military equipment, according to social media and a shipping blog" while "an unnamed activist with the Syrian rebel group the Free Syrian Army told The Times: “The Russians have been there a long time."

"There are more Russian officials who came to Slunfeh in recent weeks. We don’t know how many but I can assure you there has been Russian reinforcement.” "

Then earlier today we got the closest thing to a confirmation from the White House itself which confirmed that "it was closely monitoring reports that Russia is carrying out military operations in Syria, warning such actions, if confirmed, would be "destabilising and counter-productive."

Obama spokesman Joshn Earnest essentially confirmed Russia was already operating in Syria when he said that "we are aware of reports that Russia may have deployed military personnel and aircraft to Syria, and we are monitoring those reports quite closely."

"Any military support to the Assad regime for any purpose, whether it's in the form of military personnel, aircraft supplies, weapons, or funding, is both destabilising and counterproductive."

And another confirmation: "a US official confirmed that "Russia has asked for clearances for military flight to Syria," but added "we don't know what their goals are."

"Evidence has been inconclusive so far as to what this activity is."

Other reports have suggested Russia has targeted Islamic State group militants, who have attacked forces loyal to Russian-backed Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad.

Both the White House and the Pentagon refused to say whether they had intelligence suggesting the reports were accurate.

Of course, what is left unsaid is that since Russia is there under the humanitarian pretext of fighting the evil ISIS, the same pretext that the US, Turkey, and the Saudis are all also there for, when in reality everyone is fighting for land rights to the most important gas pipeline in decades, the US is limited in its diplomatic recoil.

Indeed as we sarcastically said last week: "See: the red herring that is ISIS can be used just as effectively for defensive purposes as for offensive ones. And since the US can't possibly admit the whole situation is one made up farce, it is quite possible that the world will witness its first regional war when everyone is fighting a dummy, proxy enemy which doesn't really exist, when in reality everyone is fighting everyone else!"

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Which now effectively ends the second "foreplay" phase of the Syrian proxy war (the first one took place in the summer of 2013 when in a repeat situation, Russia was supporting Assad only the escalations took place in the naval theater with both Russian and US cruisers within kilometers of each other off the Syrian coast), which means the violent escalation phase is next. It also means that Assad was within days of losing control fighting a multi-front war with enemies supported by the US, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, and Putin had no choice but to intervene or else risk losing Gazprom's influence over Europe to the infamous Qatari gas pipeline which is what this whole 3 years war is all about.

Finally, it means that the European refugee crisis, which is a direct consequence of the ISIS-facilitated destabilization of the Syrian state (as a reminder, ISIS is a US creation meant to depose of the Syrian president as leaked Pentagon documents have definitively revealed) is about to get much worse as 2013's fabricated "chemical gas" YouTube clip will be this years "Refugee crisis." It will be, and already has been, blamed on Syria's president Assad in order to drum up media support for what is now an inevitable western intervention in Syria.

The problem, however, has emerged: Russia is already on the ground, and will hardly bend over to any invading force.

Finally, while we have no way of knowing how the upcoming armed conflict will progress, now may be a safe time to take profits on that oil short we recommended back in October, as the geopolitical chess game just shifted dramatically, and with most hedge funds aggressively short, any realization that the middle east is suddenly a far more violent powderkeg - one which may promptly include the Saudis in any confrontation - could result in an epic short squeeze.

 

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Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:49 | 6507116 Dre4dwolf
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Destabilizing?

Nothing about Americas foreign policy for the past 10 years has been stable.

 

Syrias population has dropped like 50% the country is a no-mans-land.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:49 | 6507117 All_Your_Base
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slow to saddle up, but ride fast

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:59 | 6507160 Backin2006
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The only difference between the Russians/Iranians and most of the other actors fighting in Syria (Turkey, Saudi, Jordan, USA, UK, IS, Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, liberal Western Islamist jihadis) is that the former are there at the behest of the legitimate government of Syria, and the others aren't. 

And before anyone complains about democratic legitimacy, where is the democratic legitimacy for any Western intervention? 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:43 | 6507350 Volkodav
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The Russian's are slow to saddle their horses, but ride fast.

                       -Otto von Bismarch-

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:49 | 6507120 you enjoy myself
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You've got to love the juxtapostion of two of President Vacation's thoughts - it's "destabilzing and counter productive" and "we don't know what their goals are".  Destablizing towards what goals, you jackass?  No one has any idea what *our* goals are; it's a 3-way jihadist cage match and we're dicking around by sending in "advisors" to two of the sides while randomly droning one of them.   All without any coherent strategy as to what exactly is the end game.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:51 | 6507125 Backin2006
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Sad. Poor Russians conscripts having to lay their lives down sorting out a mess made in Washington. 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:56 | 6507148 Global Hunter
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Probably officers, technicians, logistics guys, special forces rather than conscripts at this point I would think.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:19 | 6507240 TungstenBars
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Definitely. Russians have a huge professional force, and that is the one that does the fighting. Conscripts are reserves and a domestic force, and also a step that professionals go through before committing to a career. 

 

Yet, the ZATO propagandist machine within Russia (via the Faux Russian Liberals) is probably busy at this very moment writing propaganda how Putin is sending teenage conscripts, and that mothers need to stop Putin before their son is one of the many "secret victims" of Putins war against the Syrian freedom fighters. Or some other State Department hilraious comedy. 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:56 | 6507145 khnum
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my friend is schizophrenic he says even he cant make sense of US foreign policy other than if you back every horse you'll have the winner

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:03 | 6507175 Global Hunter
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your friend's theory is a fair one but I think right now they don't really care whether their puppets gets in or whether they cause a failed state and lawlessness.  If the country goes to shit all they would have to do is secure a few key assets and areas and let the rest go mad max for all they care.  If 4 groups of yahoos are fighting for control of a country (e.g. Libya) the western forces only need to secure a pipeline route, a few key refineries and ports and ignore the rest.  The more they fight amongst themselves the better.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:21 | 6507264 TungstenBars
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Sounds like the long term plan they have for Europe.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 23:11 | 6507664 palmereldritch
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And selling arms to all groups all the while

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:43 | 6507349 Ace006
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Simple.  It's "Invade the world. Invite the world."

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:56 | 6507146 Crisismode
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Well, that sounds like a perfectly good strategy to me!

 

(/sarc if you haven't figured that out yet)

 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:57 | 6507149 Moe Howard
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I suspect the "randomly droning" is drone resupply missions. They also have to drop those ISIS gold coins Langley had minted at West Point.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:55 | 6507126 ThrowAwayYourTV
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Afghan II. The return of the CIA.

Starring, Vladimir Putin as Leonid Brezhnev.

ISIS as the American backed, Mujahideen.

And!

Co-Starring Borat Obamo as, Osama Been Laden.

Brought to you by .... China Vision TV. "Help is on the way!" China Vision.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:52 | 6507127 Lookout Mountain
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The neocons are salivating. 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:55 | 6507141 Metalredneck
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So are the cronies of Hillary.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:53 | 6507130 Savyindallas
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Fuck the jew asskissng White House and Congress. Putin needs to send his army into Syria and iraq and wipe out ISIS and each and every US and Israeli military advisor and Blackwater operatives that may be there. 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:50 | 6507381 Infinite QE
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Then march into Tel Aviv and rendition Netendafuckingyahoo to the Hague for crimes against humanity.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 23:24 | 6507692 tenpanhandle
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The Hague is a crime against humanity.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:55 | 6507139 Moe Howard
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But if they bomb ISIS they will kill the American and Israeli "advisors". How horrible.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:58 | 6507156 Grandad Grumps
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No ... there are no Americans in ISIS, only terrorists.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:00 | 6507166 Moe Howard
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Sure Grandad.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 23:10 | 6507660 LongMarch
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There are no ISIS in Americans, only terrorists.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:57 | 6507150 Grandad Grumps
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I am thinking that the Whitewhores should invite Russia to help destroy ISIS and to destroy anyone who is supporting ISIS.

What am I missing?

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:59 | 6507159 Moe Howard
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They will have to destroy the USA, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:21 | 6507266 Ms No
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The Whitewhores created and fund ISIS Grandad and this has been more than substantiated... that's how messed up our country has become.  It is hard to believe and sickening but it is true.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:57 | 6507152 Tsar Pointless
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Human greed is destabilizing. To be more precise, humans are destabilizing.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 20:58 | 6507153 roisaber
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BAWWWWW PUTIN IS STOMPING THE MUDHOLES OF OUR WACKO TERRRORISTS BAWWWWWW

Russia is going to smash the Islamic State to cinders in 50 days, and prove to the world that the USA was pulling its punches against an enemy it created.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:49 | 6507374 Ace006
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20 days ISIS will be bottled up in 4-8 distinct areas.  Then defeated in detail by denial of supplies, pinpointed artillery strikes, and one or two major operations in each area.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:08 | 6507180 Son of Captain Nemo
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the Syrian rebel group the Free Syrian Army told The Times: “The Russians have been there a long time."

Really Now???!!!!  No Shit???!!!!

Actually my little McCain/Vallely hatched drugged out ignorant fucking nut cases... There were better than 40,000 Russians that had lived and worked inside Syria for more than 45 years!  And Russia even has a Naval base right there in your "new" neighborhood that's been there as many years called Tartus.

So to make it clear you've fucking got it backwards... You're the "newbee" motherfucking scum garbage that invaded, pillaged raped and murdered on behalf of your American and Israeli Mossad merc friends starting 4 years ago!

Good luck with that bit of news my friends cause you'll be seeing plenty more where they came from!

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:23 | 6507273 Stumpy4516
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Please explain why you believe the word of the Syrian rebel group or The Times?

It is worth taking note of their claims but I would reserve believing any of it until others showed up to validate.

There is a unison of these reports, all that started with an Israli media outlet, the Times, the White House, and a few fake sites that pretend to not be controlled by the west.

Now other sites, who want it to be true that Russia is finally making a stand, are running with it and all of you are rah, rah Putin.

We will see soon, no?

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:47 | 6507339 Son of Captain Nemo
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Now other sites, who want it to be true that Russia is finally making a stand, are running with it and all of you are rah, rah Putin.

We will see soon, no?

Stumpy.  I hope you don't call yourself that because you have a prosthetic leg to replace the one you lost it in one of our many wildly successful misadventures over the last half century...

Please tell me what I previously said isn't both politically and historically accurate about the longstanding commerce ties that Syria and Russia have had for nearly 50 years and that the only thing we are watching is the wholesale demolition of another Arab secular government that may be the last left standing if Russia doesn't intervene so that Israel, the U.S. and England leave it in total destruction to simply tell the World...

Yeah, we fucked it up good... Killed more than 260,000 men women and children and displaced up to 6 million more throughout the ME and Europe...

But at least we can say that if we don't control it nobody else will!!!

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:06 | 6507449 Stumpy4516
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Have no disagreement with what you said about the death, destruction, McCain or others.

This led me to believe that you were supporting the idea that article's story that Russia was now flying combat missions and fielding troops in direct combat in Syria.  I take it I was mistaken.  If you do believe that then reread my comments.

"Good luck with that bit of news my friends cause you'll be seeing plenty more where they came from!"

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:13 | 6507473 PhattyBuoy
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Spot ON Captain !

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:04 | 6507183 Joe Tierney
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I Knew Russia's red line at Syria was a real red line....no more stinking regime changes instigated by the U.S.

 

Expect Russia to successfully instigate some regime changes over the next several years that will be very costly to the U.S. Putin won't merely stop America's advance - he'll roll it back, and China will be onboard too.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:21 | 6507265 Savyindallas
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Let's hope he starts with the jew/zionist controlled US - maybe then we can get back some of the trillions these devils on Wall Street have stolen from us

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:30 | 6507530 Ginsengbull
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China will take siberia.

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 07:05 | 6508177 Max Steel
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Fantasy

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 09:38 | 6508721 TheReplacement
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It is the snake you don't see that bites you.  If I were a large country with a small population bordering China I would definitely be wary.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:04 | 6507186 Moe Howard
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All your Syria are belong to US.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:38 | 6507550 All_Your_Base
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make your time

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:04 | 6507188 OzFan
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Fck off yanky scum. Murdering and butchering and destabalising and pillaging nations for decades on end and they dare claim Russian presence is destabalising?.....oh fcking spare me.

US hegonomy is not feared anymore and the opponent can sense it. US in big trouble here, being stretched militarily to all corners of the globe....me thinks they're being setup quite nicely. 

Long Putin.

Long Orthodox.

Long gold.

 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:07 | 6507197 Youri Carma
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Why is such big news when we don't see scumbag U.S. forces for a change?

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:09 | 6507206 VladLenin
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This Business Will Get Out of Control

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-JA1ffd5Ms

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:09 | 6507208 per-dask
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An oil proxy war. Chevron vs the Russian gas monoply over Europe. Russia wants exclusive control of the gas market: Chevron wants in on the profits and the EU wants the Russian monopoly broken.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:09 | 6507210 BeerMe
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Fuck the White House.  They're the fuckers that are destabilizing Syria.  Fuck off you fucks.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:15 | 6507233 VladLenin
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Succinct... good job.

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 02:18 | 6507924 OzFan
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X 1000

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:13 | 6507224 VladLenin
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By the way...Obama... My buds in the Chinese Navy were going to moon you in Alaska, but they got scared you might try to ass rape them.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:29 | 6507293 per-dask
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Get Putin and Obama in a bathouse together and solve this issue of Syria. They'd be butt buddies in no time.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:54 | 6507401 Ace006
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Why insult Putin that way? God if we could only have a leader like him instead of that undocumented freak we have now. 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:14 | 6507471 per-dask
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No difference between the two. Greedy narcissists. Intelligent but lacking in judgment. Ideological with hidden agendas. One wants to reestablish an empire, one wants to destroy a society. Neither can get along with others.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:28 | 6507523 Ginsengbull
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The simple fact that all Russian trolls have only nice things to say about Putin speaks volumes about their level of freedom, or lack thereof.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:58 | 6507624 Volkodav
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better worry about your own country...

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 23:20 | 6507680 Ginsengbull
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I am worried about my country.

 

It's all our turf.

 

Why don't you ruskies just bring down the red star, and fly a white flag of surrender, so we won't have to shut you down old school?

 

Oh, I forgot... you already did surrender in 1991.

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 07:12 | 6508188 Max Steel
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Your fcuk8ng anglosaxon former brit empire failed to conquer russia and now its your turn scum muritard. Dont pull your head out of ya ass.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 23:10 | 6507661 techpreist
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IMO it speaks volumes when a growing number of Americans are praying for another country to invade us.

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 07:08 | 6508182 Max Steel
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And gis3nbullcrap is a beacon of truth. Shut the fcuk up cunt. You muritards are swarming in bunch of lies 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:53 | 6507606 Volkodav
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stupid...

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:17 | 6507241 bid the soldier...
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Yum Yum

Hey Tyler is that pop corn done?

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:17 | 6507245 Quinvarius
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Is it more destabilizing then the US trying to over throw the entire country?  Actually.  F that.  It is just Washington DC doing this.  DC is not part of America.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:28 | 6507246 Son of Captain Nemo
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Finally, while we have no way of knowing how the upcoming armed conflict will progress, now may be a safe time to take profits on that oil short we recommended back in October, as the geopolitical chess game just shifted dramatically, and with most hedge funds aggressively short, any realization that the middle east is suddenly a far more violent powderkeg - one which may promptly include the Saudis in any confrontation - could result in an epic short squeeze....

Before all those "oil reserves" in tanker form sitting in the Middle of the Med, Gulf of Oman and Straits of Hormuz mysteriously get blown to shit by unidentified flying objects and underwater sea serpents..

But hurry to collect those remaining profits while supplies last!!!

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:18 | 6507247 Huma Filth
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RIGHT. ON.

About time. I'd love for Russia to teach the world how to deal with 'ISIS.'

Funny that RTs 'source' at the Kremlin denied this.

Great reporting from ZH. This little site full of weirdos is turning into a world-class, semi-journalistic, powerhouse.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:35 | 6507324 One Eyed Jack
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If you want to know if something you hear is true wait for the official government denial

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:46 | 6507359 Son of Captain Nemo
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If you want to know if something you hear is true wait for the official government denial

Voltaire?...

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:19 | 6507253 kchrisc
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"Flashpoint: White House Confirms Russian Presence In Syria, Warns It Is "Destabilizing"

The Russians must have forgot to bring cookies, or at least send out for some of Zion's Nuland cookies.

Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity..

 

John McCain to visit Syria in 3..2..

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:23 | 6507278 One Eyed Jack
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So he can give his boys in ISIS a pep talk?

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:20 | 6507255 rsnoble
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Russia blowing shit up: destabilizing.

USA blowing shit up: Constructive.

Civilians: don't fucking care who's doing it just wish it would stop.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:23 | 6507271 Ms No
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So.... which countries will these guys be headed to next?

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:47 | 6507367 rsnoble
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Probably there own the way things are going.   Seems as long as they are fucking shit up and killing people, no matter where, it's a huge success.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:23 | 6507272 williambanzai7
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Destabilizing...

The Neocon notion of stability

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:29 | 6507295 Duc888
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Fuck the White House.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:50 | 6507380 ThrowAwayYourTV
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Ha! Where have you been? It aint been the "White House for 7 years. It's now the , "Rainbow House." Geesh! and it's on = Ave. Washington, DC.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 23:03 | 6507632 palmereldritch
Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:29 | 6507297 theFNG
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Fuck it! Preseason football is on.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:29 | 6507298 Schroedingers Cat
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Next thing Washington and AIPAC will be complaining bitterly how Russia is dismanted Isis

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 09:56 | 6508829 TheReplacement
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Don't think so.  If Russian forces dismantle ISIS then western media will start talking about blowback and how the rats are scattering to all corners of the earth.  Next thing you'll have Chechens blowing stuff up in Russia and imported jihadis shooting up malls in America.  They just adapt and make use of whatever the situation presents.

Honestly, I could see this playing out that way or,

Some scenario where Turkey starts to fall apart and the great bear is forced to come down from the north while the dragon rises in the east.  Such was a prediction of the end times told to me when I was a child some decades ago.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:30 | 6507302 Huma Filth
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I so badly want to see some footage of Russian airships rising up behind some sand dunes. Launching barrages of rockets at lines of new Toyota PUs full of black flag guys.

Do Russians still have fugly, but charming, and uniquely Russian helicopters? Like the ones with all the plexiglass pimples, and pilots riding in the nose. Love Russian vehicles, so much.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:58 | 6507413 Ace006
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The Toyotas had cloaking devices.  They were invisible to our eyes in the skies.  We can use radar to detect a submarine 600 feet below the surface by the displacement of water on the surface but that convoy of trucks was too much for us.  

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:59 | 6507418 Brutlstrudl
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Once the Black Flag boys are out of the way, then we find out who the tough guy is.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:05 | 6507450 Skeet Hazzard
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You should ride out in one under fire. Your grin would melt. But you would get home. Wake up.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:10 | 6507467 Freddie
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Hopefully ISIS meets HinD Mi-35

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT23BQwSoSA

SU-25 Frogfoot.  It ain't pretty like the A-10 but it is tough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtAThLpxmxw

At 4:03 in the video they show a 20 mm gut being shot at the titanium cockpit. 

The new Sukohi's like the Su27,30,31 and 35 are seriously cool looking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVlmoNtcyhY

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 07:19 | 6508200 Max Steel
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,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Those a10s are obsolete already

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 09:58 | 6508839 TheReplacement
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That is sarc right?

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:34 | 6507317 magnetosphere
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is vladimir putin the messiah?

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:56 | 6507409 Brutlstrudl
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Rasputin!

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 12:50 | 6509896 HowdyDoody
Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:34 | 6507321 gougeonit
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Does anybody know what air command, and battle group have disembarked?

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:38 | 6507330 DonFromWyoming
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Oops.  The Saker got it wrong, with not one, but two articles posted recently.  +1 for ZH.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:02 | 6507432 Skeet Hazzard
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Don, my money's on the Saker.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:42 | 6507344 per-dask
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The mad dog has broken its chain. Lock your doors and bar your windows.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:44 | 6507355 toady
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Isn't that Armageddon stuff supposed to start like this?

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 10:02 | 6508857 TheReplacement
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First the world needs a leader who can point out an enemy and make him disappear.  I think we need satellites and drones and a false messiah before the real show starts.

In other news, President Obama, taking a break from stopping the rise of the waters, brags about how he's good at killing folks with drones while watching on satellite.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:44 | 6507356 bid the soldier...
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For the last few weeks the White House has been gushing at the idea of working with Russia against ISIL.

Apparently they expected Russia to work under the US command.  

Now they're sad they won't be able to keep a full time camera on Russia's comings and goings.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:51 | 6507384 Oldballplayer
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As a red blooded American I can confidently say: I don't care. It's been a while since they fought "crazy" in Afghanistan. They need a refresher course.

Have at it boys.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:02 | 6507430 Brutlstrudl
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The Russians are NOT a refresher course. They are the Final Exam

 

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 10:18 | 6508977 TheReplacement
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I think he means jihadis when he says crazy.  He maybe forgets about Chechnya.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:52 | 6507391 Spiritof42
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This from Veterans Today:

"We have absolute proof that the Pentagon has no intelligence capabilities in either Syria and Iraq and actually receives its intelligence from ISIS press releases.  If only I were making this up."

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/03/pentagon-treason-hoax-number-3-t...

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 23:07 | 6507654 Volkodav
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dont' trust everything VT say, some is start to must check it out...take with caution

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:53 | 6507396 Brutlstrudl
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Having been married into the Russian community going on 10 years, believe me when I tell you they are the last people you want to piss off.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 23:05 | 6507646 Volkodav
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yeh, its like that

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:53 | 6507398 Dr. Bonzo
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LMFAO. CIA and Mossad basically create ISIS from whole cloth, i.e... the neocon "regime change" meme [you can't prove that!!!!! lmao]... but that's not destabilizing... but Russians fighting these headchopping medievalist fucks... now that's destabilizing.

It truly is bizarro world.

 

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 10:32 | 6509100 TheReplacement
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Kinda like the world where:

Progressive means rendering free people back to the age of serfdom.

Liberal means tyrannical government.

Conservative means to wantonly slash, burn, and destroy everything.

Freedom means being able to choose between the options someone gives you.

TV watches you.

The value of money is set by a currency and not the other way around.

...and so on and so forth.

 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:54 | 6507400 Macon Richardson
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Why should I consider these "reports" anything more than anti-Russian propaganda? Why should I consider them anything more than military-industrial-prestitute lies? How easy is it to Photoshop some Russian aircraft into the clear blue sky? Since we don't see anything but sky, how are we to know these aren't some photogaphs taken on a clear day in Russia? That if you listen carefully you will hear Russian being spoken! You can hear that anywhere in Pattaya or in Brooklyn. Twitter accounts? Yeah, they're always true and accurate. Never heard of a misstatement being made on a Twitter account. Never! Nowhere! No time!

What do you call someone who trusts Twitter truths? A twit, of course.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 23:01 | 6507636 Freddie
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+1

Tyler's fell for this dumb Z-story.  If it was not for Paveway IV and a few other posters - I would not waste my time here. 

Saker's site and some of the others he links to are more interesting.  I like Syrian Persepctive too by Ziad writes with a lot of hyperbole.  

 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:55 | 6507403 FedFunnyMoney
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I bet the Joos are pissed because this now makes them hafta play nice.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:56 | 6507406 rejected
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Well if Washington confirms it,,, it MUST be true... yes?

The Russians are denying it but who knows. I read an article, can't remember exactly where,,, I think Pravda that actually mentioned Tyler Durden. The article denied the assumptions of ZeroHedge's last article on this subject.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 21:56 | 6507410 Skeet Hazzard
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No one is more connected to this than the Saker.
He has two lengthy posts defusing this info.
Wait till tomorrow morning to hear what he has to say. No one is better connected than he.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:04 | 6507445 luckylogger
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Must be morning in Russia as th Russiam trolls are out in force...

Spreading their propaganda about why it is better to eat carp heads than good beef, elks,,,

You get the picture...

I pity you fools.....

We may have a fuked up president but he will be gone and then with a little luck we will have somebody with his or her shit together and the you putin luving monarchists better look out!!!!!

By the way?

What is oil selling for these days?

How about the futures curve?

BAWAWAHHHHH

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:16 | 6507475 Freddie
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We may have a fuked up president but he will be gone and then with a little luck we will have somebody with his or her shit together and the you putin luving monarchists better look out!!!!!

Yeah we have been singing that tune since 1861 when the Red Shield and other banksters created a little war where 1.1 million American men were murdered. The USA is corrupt top to bottom. Intel, state dept, alphabet spy agencies, Pentagram an dthe list is endless.  Soros and the other zoligarch in charge. 

You are a moron. 

Keep eating lots of red meat.  Here is a tip - it causes high blood pressure moron.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:22 | 6507499 Ginsengbull
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Steak is delicious.

 

Especially when it's rare, dripping juicy bloody goodness.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:16 | 6507482 azusgm
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Who says Barry's leaving?

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:20 | 6507495 Ginsengbull
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Methinks the ruskies were in Syria for a long time.

 

It doesn't really matter, Assad's country is now half gone.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:40 | 6507554 Volkodav
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bored

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:43 | 6507566 Ms No
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"We may have a fuked up president but he will be gone and then with a little luck we will have somebody with his or her shit together and the you putin luving monarchists better look out!!!!!"

Obviously you haven't looked into the "proprietary software" that counts your votes you fucking imbecile.  Go ahead and threaten your own countrymen with tyranny, if we do have a reason to "look out" and we get chewed up for opposing this war I'll be sure to come back in spirit with Thomas Jefferson and piss on your face when your sleeping.

 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:51 | 6507595 Consuelo
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Yikes...

 

You can do better than that, Lucky.   You can, right...?

 

 

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 10:43 | 6509179 TheReplacement
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Wow, you really need a daddy don't you.

I've been to Russia.  No carp heads on the menus.  They did have excellent smoked fishes and caviars.  Heck, even the ice cream was great.  Borscht was okay but not something for which I would go out of my way.  Their vodka is definitely superior to anything, comparably priced, made in the west. 

I didn't see guns on cops.  No body armor.  No fatigues/blackops get up either.  It was almost like they were a civilian force and not a paramilitary.  Weird I know. 

Oh, and taxes.  Take whatever you pay now and cut it by 50-80%.

After the next election we'll have another puppet who does what his string pullers demand while we have less freedom and ever more immigrants and taxes to pay for it all.  Enjoy your personal share, $1.4M, of the debt for their spending.  Good luck with the rest of your life when they come to collect the money you owe them for the money the borrowed from out of thin air from themselves to spend on their projects.

Enjoy that gilded cage.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:07 | 6507455 earleflorida
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this is incredibly stupid regarding the foreign policy of the OBi! adm.!

al Nursa is the Islamist [radical terrorist] Sunni Organization affiliated to the USSA/ Pakistan's 'mujahideen created in the mid/80's. since evolving into the bifurcated Taliban run by Pakistan's ISI and adopted by Usama`Laden which then miraculously mutated into al Qaeda! all this mutation, and/or evolution was created during the Soviet/Afgan War [1979-1989].

the saudi's loved the war because it destroyed the USSR as their only competitive energy rivalry. the ussa loved it because of the oil & gas they would have with the ussr gonezo betwee the time span of 1989-dec/1991... which could and would be the ussa alternative to saudi energy hegemony.

we all know how things turned out.

islamabad and kabul control and ferry the isis trained troops from jalalabad, peshawar and down south's quetta directly into kandahar to the heart and soul of the taliban controlled by the ISI control hub of the salang highway obscure silk road, up into tajikistan-uzbekistan through turkmenistan enrolling  thousands of wanabee jihadist for the islamic radical movement to be able to tell their children how they wrapped the shawl-strings of the caliphate around their bullet-ridden bodies?  

saudi arabia and russia have had their fill of erdogan and the int'l media coverage of fleeing refugees. it genocide!

russia woudn't go into syria without the saudi's support. backbiting is a fool's errand if all sided aren't on the same page. the saudi's realize that qatar isn't worth the trouble. eqypt is now aligned with putin 100% along with iran at 75%-90%.

Russia has had its recon's on the grounds for months and now has its 'sar' strategy in full compliance with the military generals and defense dept. its all systems go.

i would imagine that the reinforcment [jihadist] freshly trained troops and children`suicide bombers all transitioning through the old old russian satellite countries will stop when mother russia beckons their help closing the gap.  the flow of jihadist of all color'd/ relgious sunni islam affiliations from afpak will dry up.

what's next is mother ussa reigniting a kashmir pak/indian war...[?] 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:08 | 6507461 f16hoser
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Every country the US Government has touch in the last 50 years has been destabilizing.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:09 | 6507462 Keloid
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Former head of CIA becomes POTUS?

His son becomes POTUS? 

Another son maybe in line to become POTUS?

Pot head from Occidental, whom nobody seems to be able to remember actually being there, becomes POTUS?

Best part of the whole story is Speaker of the House named BONER!

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 07:48 | 6508261 conscious being
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Like the Romans, we had a horse become a senator.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:10 | 6507464 FedFunnyMoney
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So Syria turns into a Afghanistan redux...yay. Except the whole ME will be fucked, rather than just one backwater country.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:32 | 6507537 per-dask
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The whole ME is already fucked, if you didn't notice.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:41 | 6507558 FedFunnyMoney
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Truly fucked is yet to come. The fat lady is just clearing her throat right now.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:59 | 6507627 pluto the dog
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the whole middle east is already fucked lol average 52% inbred - WHO estimate

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:10 | 6507466 VW Nerd
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Sounds about right, no hypocrisy here.....

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:18 | 6507490 q99x2
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Suggestion: Bomb the Saudi Palaces in retaliation for the WTC attack on the United States of America and make Saudi Arabia the 51st state of the US.

Duh!

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:35 | 6507546 azusgm
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Nah, just smash that cube with the black dress they pray to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 10:50 | 6509232 TheReplacement
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Do what you want with it but I get the doors and the rainspout.

 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:20 | 6507494 bankonzhongguo
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Now that Putin has gone full retard on Syria expect Team Brzezinski to ramp up their contacts across Georgia, Chechnya and Ossetia.

Why have 1.5 fronts in Ukraine and Syria when you can open up the entirety of southern Russia.

Remember the Dubrovka Theater seige in 2002?

Now you can have one part ISIS and one part the Sons of Noah with just enough Saudi money to keep things interesting.

War is a racket.

 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:28 | 6507524 short the FED
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You guy's are silly. We have destabilized and created a continent wide Sunni vs. Shia civil war where we control the Sunni (largely terrorist side). It's amazing how the bloodiest region in history can be presently more violent with more atrocities as well as refugees than ever before, and yet our wonderfully informative mainstream media is telling us the important news coming from the middle east is a purposeful placed distraction which is really just giving world powers leverage in options in economic negotiations as we are all ready in world war 3. #Bush=Obama=the 1/10 of 1 percent of americans who pay homage to an even smaller group of very old money swiss bankers who control every part of our finance and politics.... # 64peoplehavemorewealththan3.5billion # Do you like not knowing how your world works???????

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:28 | 6507525 short the FED
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You guy's are silly. We have destabilized and created a continent wide Sunni vs. Shia civil war where we control the Sunni (largely terrorist side). It's amazing how the bloodiest region in history can be presently more violent with more atrocities as well as refugees than ever before, and yet our wonderfully informative mainstream media is telling us the important news coming from the middle east is a purposeful placed distraction which is really just giving world powers leverage in options in economic negotiations as we are all ready in world war 3. #Bush=Obama=the 1/10 of 1 percent of americans who pay homage to an even smaller group of very old money swiss bankers who control every part of our finance and politics.... # 64peoplehavemorewealththan3.5billion # Do you like not knowing how your world works???????

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:33 | 6507539 PGR88
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I can't be any more destabilizing than Obama's presence in Syria.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:35 | 6507544 ncdirtdigger
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Moar Arab Spring !

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:40 | 6507552 Buster Cherry
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I'm all for the Russians doing the dirty work over there for a change.

 

I also enjoyed seeing the pics of the US servicemen holding their signs over their faces saying "I did not join the military to fight in a Syrian Civil War!"

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:52 | 6507601 Freddie
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What did they join for?  To serve Obola, the banksters and Zoigarchs?  They want to get their legs blown of for MonSatan, Soros, Zuckergbegr, McCain?  Have at it.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 23:13 | 6507668 techpreist
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That is the end game right there. Will we ever see a situation when soldiers start asking what it is they are dying for?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage.html?_r=0

"Chooses." How Orwellian.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:43 | 6507564 godiva chocolate
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How can anyone destabilize Syria anymore than it already is?

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:44 | 6507572 spoonful
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Putin had no choice but to intervene or else risk losing Gazprom's influence over Europe to the infamous Qatari gas pipeline which is what this whole 3 years war is all about.

Glad I got that education.  I thought the whole three year war in Syria was because Israel wanted it.  

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 08:19 | 6508343 conscious being
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If the Qatari pipeline ever goes thru, it will no longer be the Qatari pipeline. It will become the Israeli pipeline, moving gas from the offshore Leviathin field to Europe. You see, its kind of hard to get the Sunnis to fight and die to clear the way for a pipeline if they know upfront that it is the Israeli pipeline.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:45 | 6507575 Catullus
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Isis gets routed over the next 3 months. Russia becomes regional hero.

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 00:39 | 6507835 Buster Cherry
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And earned it.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:46 | 6507579 Moccasin
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Made in America

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:52 | 6507603 MSorciere
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It's all the Russians' fault. Evil incarnate!

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:57 | 6507621 GMadScientist
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Thanks Capt. Obvious, we never would have noticed that warm water port without your accumen.

 

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 22:59 | 6507626 Circle of DNA
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I'm with the saker on this one. All so called sources are dubious to say the least. Saying that, I'd love to see those liver eating, CIA/MOSSAD engineered  creepy crawlers baked in the sand they crawled out from.

Thu, 09/03/2015 - 23:04 | 6507643 Slippery Slope
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Well, now the U.S. can't bomb Assads forces, as well as ISIS. Keeping the Middle East destabilized for its client state of Israel, just became more complicated.

Fri, 09/04/2015 - 06:59 | 6508166 Winston of Oceania
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Why can't they?

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