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698K Native-Born Americans Lost Their Job In August: Why This Suddenly Is The Most Important Jobs Chart
After the Fed admitted over a year ago that the US unemployment rate (which in 2012 was supposed to be a rate hike "threshold" once it hit 6.5% and is now at 5.1%) has become irrelevant in a country where a record 94 million people have left the labor force, and with the Fed poised to hike rates even though US hourly wages have not only not increased for the past 7 years, but for the vast majority of the labor force continue to decline, some have asked - is there any labor-related chart that matters any more?
The answer: a resounding yes, only it is none of the conventional charts that algos and sometimes humans look at.
The one chart that matters more than ever,has little to nothing to do with the Fed's monetary policy, but everything to do with the November 2016 presidential elections in which the topic of immigration, both legal and illegal, is shaping up to be the most rancorous, contentious and divisive.
The chart is the following, showing the cumulative addition of foreign-born and native-born workers added to US payrolls according to the BLS since December 2007, i.e., since the start of the recession/Second Great Depression.
The chart is especially important because what it shows for just the month of August will be enough to provide the Trump - and every other - campaign with enough soundbites and pivot points to last it for weeks on end: namely, that in August a whopping 698,000 native-born Americans lost their job. This drop was offset by 204,000 foreign-born Americans, who got a job in the month of August.
But the punchline: since December 2007, according to the Household Survey, only 790,000 native born American jobs have been added. Contrast that with the 2.1 million foreign-born Americans who have found a job over the same time period...
... and you have a combustible mess that will lead to serious fireworks during the next GOP primary.
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Lying with statistics (on crack).
Hahaha! Stupid silly goyim. Jobs not really lost. Jobs found by non-white invaders. International kosher UNHCR give your jobs to ‘refugees’. And illegals. But you not care. You not want be called racist and anti-semite. We make you worship multiculturalism. We tell you diversity is greatest strength. And it is. For jewdom. Hehheh. Never you forget –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ
OY VEY!!
JOB,,,
Just Over Broke.
Truer words were never spoken!
What does it mean native born Americans..all born in U.S. or native as in Indian...
Foreign born Americans and Native born Americans; the common thread? Americans.
Mc no 9..
You are so right. When I want work done, hard work, I hire a mexican. Whites? Forget it. Lazy. Expect everything to be done for them.
Literacy in the us is a joke, especially the 30 and unders. THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO READ! spelling, even simple words, is worse than a second grader.
Math? Lol. Without a calculator, or cash register, they are lost. Cannot do simple arithmetic.
Problem solving skills? Non existent
Roxi
But what about all the idiot under 30 millionaires? They didn't get it at gunpoint.
Hard facts....science... supports what common sense and anecdotal evidence has suggested for decades now...immigrants both "legal and illegal" have taken native born American( non anchor babies) jobs. Fuck American exceptionalism....WE need American nationalism.
TRUMP 2016
Basically, native borns can't compete. They suck.
Are you really proud of yourself with that comment? Nothing more intelligent to say?
They refuse to compete for illegal alien caste wages.
When it comes to having to large families that one can't afford then you are correct. The average American family has just under 2 children compared to about 5 anchor babies for illegals
When it comes to having too large families that one can't afford then you are correct. The average American family has just under 2 children compared to about 5 anchor babies for illegals
You suck as evidenced by the vacuum you create with all the down votes. Find an appropriate landfill to ply your idiocy.
This is what cracks me up. We have government agencies who are theoretically interested in deporting illegal workers. They ACT like they are busy searching for workers that are here illegally.
Here in Dallas, you can walk into any restaurant kitchen, any car dealership, any landscape company, any construction site and any number of other businesses and find illegals without breaking a sweat.
But nothing of the sort is happening because AMERICAN BUSINESS WANTS ILLEGAL LABOR - END OF STORY. And American businessmen CALL THE FUCKING TUNE pal.
You are correct, but some of the simpletons on this board would rather play the race card.
Stop hiring them and stop patronizing their businesses.
Ask the business owner you trade with if all their employees are here legally and if they can prove it.
If they get uppity, trade elsewhere.
That's how to push back on this shit on the citizen level.
we must drive the foreign invaders from our soil and punish their elite collaborators
I met a new girl, in her 20s, hypnotic eyes, i mean it, freaky king cobra eyes, bubble tits, half dyke, the most entertainment sans finance. She could almost be my kid, but ill never say that. i should have good advice but i dont. Eventually white people will just rob blacks and immigrants, i mean, what else do you want me to say.
Hey darnell cough it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkRSfpIF9Lc
I am a little less inteligent after reading your post.
It added negative value.
PURE XENOPHOBIA
Same old story. Any time the US economy goes down, it's always ... "Let's kick the Hispanic immigrants in the butt". This game of name-calling has been happening in America for decades and decades.
The LOSS of American jobs is due to the fact that US manufacturing has shifted overseas. Talk to the international companies about that ... they've got head offices in the USA. Funny how most of these companies aren't paying much of anything ... in the way of taxes to the US Government.
Most imigrants from South of the Border do NOT come from Mexico. They are immigrants from Central America. Sure, they may be crossing through Mexico, but that does not make them Mexican.
The whole party line from Trump is hogwash - designed to get people stirred up, and to hide the fact that Donald Trump does not know how to fix the US economy.
I figure I may as well get down voted along with you.
A number of years back I remember reading a story in the LA Times I believe. Border Patrol or Immigration pulled over a Mexican in a pickup truck who didn't have any ID.
Anyway this 'Mexican" was entitled to a phone call and he got it. He made one call and shit hit the fan.
He an was American born Latino, a vet, who owned a service station and just so happened to be the mayor of Pasedena I think it was.
Last year they deported a teenager who suffered from downs or other mental condition. His mother was worried sick as he was let go in Tijuana with no money. He was a gringo too.
Dang, anyone who looks a little brown on the outside best watch out as when they start looking to kick those damn brown illegals there will be native born vets, children, women business owners and such getting dumped somewhere down south.
If it wasn't so ridiculous it would be funny.
Stop with the delusionary sob stories.
Most of Mexifornia is brown and there are millions of illegals who get the same benefits as U.S. citizens.
The borders have been wide open for years and almost no one gets deported by the Marxist Muslim regime in the White House.
And who do you cast blame for this???????
Yep these people are ignorant of history.
You don't live in the U.S. and don't have a clue.
There is a difference between LEGAL immigrants and ILLEGAL immigrants.
There are now MILLIONS of ILLEGALS in the U.S. thanks to the Marxist Muslim dictator in the White House who has busted open the borders.
Oh it goes back long before the current occupier........
Eisenhower had no problem ejecting Mexican "guest workers" that came during the war years but didn't want to go back to the casa.
His program was called "Operation Wetback", and he carried it through without apology.
Good riddance.
You are a fool or one of the Laraza/Suckenberg boys.
Are you at the border taking a poll?
I'm reminded of the scene from Blazing Saddles, where a toll booth was set up in the middle of the desert to slow the raiding party, and Slim Pickens being frustrated, turning in his saddle and asking: "Anyone got a dime?"
That's where I see you on this topic.
Go take your nap.
The "immigration reform" we need is to shut down ALL immigration until those already here adopt the American culture.
No more immigrants -- legal or illegal -- until we get our house in order.
And then, when we allow immigration again, we do so only so as to benefit America and Americans -- not to dilute the WASP culture, which was the goal of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act demanded and pushed by you-know-who because they see white Christians as their greatest threat.
Ted Kennedy is not responsible for the Immigration Act of 1965
Well done, Laddie. Behind every tempest there's a quiet series of events that resonate through a system.
You're right out of the 1920s. You know that, right?
Tham makes him correct.
You are correct.
There was a moratorium on immigration up until I believe 1964, so as to give the wave of immigrants that came in the late 19th and early 20th century a chance to acclimate and adapt to being "Americans"
They knew back then that hyphenated americans had no place here, that those coming here needed to add value, not to be takers.
The old country needs to be left at the dock.....
It would be a pleasant surprise to see street signs written in English instead of Spanish or Chinese.
I was born in the U.S.A. .. but got nowhere to run.
Let's all flood Australia as "refugees."
why AUS? Aussies I know what to migrate here to the US.
Don't do it Willy, they're even less free than us.
Has it ever occurred to you fucking morons that maybe the native-born Americans are white trash meth-addicted losers who are reaping the benefits of a shitty American education? Hell most of these fucking losers are too busy sitting on the couch living on food stamps watching reality television to get a job. All you nativists and racists don't need to worry though, AmeriKKKa is going down the toilet so fast no one from the rest of the world will want to live here soon.
Maybe your neighbors. Not mine. Everyone I know is working their ass off trying to tread water.
But we are all treading water with a brick in each hand thanks to the parasites who come to this country for social handouts or the quick buck and leave the heavy lifting to those of us who consider this country home.
You must be delusionally projecting your family issues of being meth-addicted losers onto the vast majority of native-born white Americans who don't have such issues?
Ouch. But the truth hurts.
So the truth hurts? You must be a trashy meth addicated loser?
yet another handle dutchboy?
every coward changes his uniform depending on which way the wind blows
Raise the minimum wage again and lose another 300K jobs. Dumb Asses...
Is this really out of ordinary?
Cuz the first thing an immigrant does after finding a home, is get a job. They would ALWAYS have a higher propensity to find work out of desperation. Native born yanks...not so much.
Also, minimum wage goes up, and native born yanks go out the door in favor of immigrants willing to work for market value.
Your use of the term "native born yank" reveals you to be a foreigner who doesn't have a clue about native born Americans.
The first thing most illegals do when entering the country is head to one of the big welfare states like California that provides the same benefits to illegals as citizens.
And how's california doing as of now?
hint for you non americans: shit
It also means that Americans are dumb compared to Asians and Indians and lazy compared to Latinos. Period.
Dumbest post yet. Period.
Probably true in your neighborhood.
Americans will do any kind of work but not for illegal alien caste wages if that's what you meant.
Whadda you know, you idiotic limey turd?
I go in shops every day. The old school Americans that still have jobs cant be replaced. Or they would have been by now. I see um in most good shops doing the hard shit. An we know whats up.
ALL job growth since 2000 was taken by immigrants:
http://cis.org/all-employment-growth-since-2000-went-to-immigrants
U.S. grads settle for lower pay amid influx of foreign tech workers
2015-08-29 CHINA
INDIA IMMIGRANTS OVERTAKE MEXICANS AS LARGEST GROUPS COMING INTO USA
I understand after exposure the FB Cabal relented, for now...
The name is ZUCKERBERG, Mark ZUCKERBERG, wonder what church he attends...
FACEBOOK bars posts showing immigrants taking jobs from Americans
Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:34:43 AM
QUALCOMM lays off locals after applying for 'thousands' of foreign workers
SUMMER SURGE: NUMBER OF ILLEGALS FROM MEXICO SWELLS
Schools add classes 'completely in Spanish'
Audit: Obamacare did not verify citizenship status
ND to receive hundreds of refugees from Bhutan, Iraq, Somalia and Congo
Locals sign petition against
Immigrant Population Hits Record 42.1 Million
Mayor of Kansas City, Kansas brags: Our white population plummets
ICE Records Reveal Steep Drop in Worksite Enforcement Since 2013
150,000 African immigrants resettled in Minnesota
You know we really better start thinking about this problem and right away. Time is running out for America and for our race.
We are headed for some serious rearranging. Dislocation never results in a desirable outcome.
Let me give all of you a wakeup call. This number they are using of native-born americans losing their job in August is make believe. There isn't one form that shows if native born americans have been hired nor is there a form showing them being let go. And there never has been. They are making this stuff up. I know this because I fill out the forms having to do with employment.
You filled out a million forms? How do you know if they were or were not native born Americans? Did you keep your own private count? Show us a link that supports your statement. I'm sure you cannot do so. By the way, as a clerical, administrative employee who fills out forms, what Agency do you work for? The Ministry of Truth?
Just check off "Other" and be done with it.
Article says BLS used the Household Survey, fwiw. And these are FRED2 series.
You have any real reason to doubt the numbers?
There are just a lot of middle-aged Americans who are making 60-100K dollars per year that can be replaced by a 25 year old Indian who will work as a consultant for under 50K. He has no valuables, shares an apartment and will instantly move to any city he is asked to. He is leaving behind a place where they have no cars, they have electricity part of they day and they cook on butane stoves and have no air conditioning. He leases a mustang convertible for 250/month, lives in a crappy apt. with two other guys and makes twice what he could make in India. If he can last here and save 100K he goes home rich.
On the button. You have described it as it IS and HAS been since about 1995.
Corporations, Glaobal Temp emplyment firms, DOL, INS and Immigration Law firms have all been playing this tune since 1995.
I left Seattle in 2014, in part because Microsoft, Amazon, Google and other tech firms used the lie of a STEM shortage to depress salaries. Yes - there is a shortage of engineers, in Seattle, who will work for 45K/year - in part because the average family home in the area requires that someone have an income of 100K+ OR being willing to share with 17 other relatives like an Indian slum. I live in Indianapolis now, and get paid roughly what I was making in Seattle. The only thing I can say is that the whole world economy is collapsing - there are no safe havens, and only idiots believe in them. Soon - everybody will be focusing on the basics of survival ... everywhere.
Hence my penchant for stacking 100-can cases of sardones and bricks of vacuum-packed grains.
We are in the "Third world" war already. In Minnesota, these immigrants are not coming here on their own accord. They are being shoveled in large numbers by agencies like The Lutheran Brotherhood. This agency has a budget of some 114 million; 96 of which comes from the Federal Gov. The female head of the agency is paid over 400,000 a year. Native citizens are not made aware of the invasion until they show up. The "government" pays for the first three months then the support falls on the local state, school and medical facilities
now, oh my brothers, who is behind such transfers
You know who she is....maybe you should go to her house and pissin her flowerbeds, so to speak....
It's the same thing all around the country with different organizations. Racist groups like La Raza get millions of Federal grant money.
Then let's start a Money for Peckerwoods movement..More YAY!
It's the blue helmet crowd and the AIPAC bootlickers in CONgress, that's who.
Engines?....didn't know there was any left.... Or we talking about red dot engines?.....
Yeah, been drinking......kinda in that sarcastic asshole mode.....
It's all planned. Might want to read this.....
http://www.zengardner.com/carefully-calculated-mass-migration-agenda/
FREEDUMB in AmeriKa! Yaaaay
WTF,I'm a foreigner in my own country..
Remember to credit (blame) the unholy alliance of Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich, who forged a bi-partisan alliance to give us NAFT, WTO, and the ending of Glass-Steagall. Look forward to next year when Obama and Boehner will push through the Trans Pacific and Trans Atlantic partnerships. That will render the concepts of "country and countrymen" to be nothing more than quaint anachronisms.
Just WOW!
'Native-born Americans' -- your dialectic sins are coming back to haunt you.
It just shows their true policy while they publicly decry the loss of the middle class. Umm does the world liar come to mind?
"Native born" (born in the United States) is not the same as "natural born" (born in the US of US Citizen parents).
The Preamble of the Constitution says explicitely that the rights of citizenship descend to the "prosterity" of US Citizens (Children of US Citizens)
POSTERITY (Merriam- Webster) 1 : the offspring of one progenitor to the furthest generation 2 : all future generations There is no such thing in the US onstitution of "birthright citizenship". Citizens are either born or naruralized by the power of Congress to enact Uniform naturalization law. The natural born need no naturalization-- they are the posterity. Here is what Senator Howard, the sponsor of the Amendment said during the proceedings of its enactment: ‘‘This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that everyperson born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction , is by natural law and national law , a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the US who are foreigners,aliens, who belong to the families of embassadors or ministers accredited to the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”There's an ELEPHANT in the room! Who is pushing for mass immigration, given the assimilation problems and social unrest it causes? There is virulent anti-immigration in Europe and the U.S, even in countries with zero to little immigration like the Czech Republic, Hungary, Latvia and Poland(who happen to be eternal immigrants themselves) yet the left and RIGHT continue to allow immigration against the will of the general public. Something bigger is at play. It looks like they're preparing the groundwork for classic divide and rule tactics, while the general public is pillaged by the money changers and the corporations. we'll be too busy arguing amongst each other to realise we are being robbed.
I am not in agreement with your scenario. You start prognosticating about the mob in America, I guarantee your level of inaccuracy will be higher than a cat's back.
Not to rain on everyone's parade but August is usually bad every year.
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=1MBx
Of course, it is seasonal -- summer jobs come to an end.
This article was discussed on a nationally syndicated radio show overnight. I was on break, listening to AM 620 out of Milwaukee at 3am. I almost shat bricks when the guy mentioned "Tyler Durden."
The Immigration Facilitators Union Local 412 would like to thank the American people whose wise open border policies help our members succeed in a demanding business environment.
The problem with immigration is not the immigrants, it is the Method, Means, and Ends by which the government imports them.
- Imports by selectively ignoring Laws and Regulations for foreigners that apply to Native-Borns.
- Uses the earnings of the same Native-Borns disadvantaged by the regulatory tilt towards foreigners to directly pay the foreigners for coming.
- Imports foreigners for the twin purposes of avoiding financial responsibility for the Social Ponzi schemes that they have created, and to politically dispossess the populace of the country in favor of a created depended 'serf' voting block.
Or, you could use that chart to show that, since 2010. Native born folks have gained 9 million jobs, while non-native born folks got three million.
My kingdom for a narrative-free reading of stats!
Our replacements... migrants.
Alvin Gouldner put it this way, “Marx said, ‘Philosophy is the head of emancipation, and the proletariat is the heart.’ But it takes a great deal of fancy theoretical footwork—in short, of ideology and false consciousness—to assume that the head and heart of politics are always integrated and have identical interests. Indeed, much of the discussion among Marxists today, concerning the failure of the proletariat as an historical force thus far, is in effect a discussion about the possibility of a ‘heart transplant’; that is, of replacing the proletariat with another historical actor: e.g., students, blacks, third world forces, etc. Intellectuals are capable of being an autonomous political force and when one social group does not play the role they have assigned to it, when it fails in its ‘historical responsibility’, intellectuals will often shop around for another client group to ‘represent’. False consciousness is generated when the special, vested interests of intellectuals are deemed illegitimate and are therefore concealed, and when intellectuals feel they must pretend to be representatives of another group’s interests.”
http://incapp.org/blog/?p=2632
Maybe talk to the sizeable chunk of people who lost their careers - careers they felt meant something - when the NOT FOR PROFIT Exchanges shuttered their trading floors. We had to defend against accusations of thievery all the time. Many, many people from the floors understood and understand today what a FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION is. The thievery occurring now - where it cannot be detected readily, and even if it could would not be prosecuted, is a metastasizing cancer. It is Government sanctioned theft.
"...a whopping 698,000 native-born Americans lost their job. This drop was offset by 204,000 foreign-born Americans, who got a job in the month of August."
Subtracting the foreign born workers from the nearly 700,000 who lost jobs leaves about 500,000 suddenly unemployed Americans (the vast majority of those losing work in August) who have NOT been replaced by anyone. The problem is less about foreign workers and more about structural unemployment in the USA. Barring some national education/employment intiative, this trend will simply continue. I realize this fact doesn't play as well with the racism and xenophobia here at ZH, but there you have it...
I'm an immigration attorney - now unemployed becuase much of that work is in Spanish or the labor can literally be off-shored. When you do an H-1B, you arrange data so that it looks like the lower wage is indeed within the prevailing wage. So the law says that it preserves wage rates, but it in reality the lawyers make it so the company can pay a foreigner less. Why do you think they pay a lawyer to do the case - cuz diversity? lel
I'm an immigration attorney - now unemployed becuase much of that work is in Spanish or the labor can literally be off-shored. When you do an H-1B, you arrange data so that it looks like the lower wage is indeed within the prevailing wage. So the law says that it preserves wage rates, but it in reality the lawyers make it so the company can pay a foreigner less. Why do you think they pay a lawyer to do the case - cuz diversity? lel
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