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Syria: Imperial Responsibility, Imperial Conscience
Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith of OfTwoMinds blog,
Come on, America. We could better and should do better.
I am not an unbiased observer of the Syrian refugee crisis, for we have a Syrian friend. She is a young woman, with legal residency in the U.S. She is completing her university studies in computer science. Her uncle served honorably in the U.S. Army for many years in theater (Iraq) and recently retired in California's Central Valley.
Her brother is completing his medical studies and wants to practice medicine in the U.S.
If you've been to a major hospital in the U.S. recently, you know that if all foreign-born doctors vanished, the current shortage of physicians would be much, much worse.
This is to remind us all that not every immigrant or refugee is a terrorist or welfare recipient.
We have a number of young Vietnamese-American friends who are the children of Boat People who fled Communist oppression after 1975. Those who were unable to escape often served years in re-education labor camps, i.e. concentration camps, for the heinous crime of working for the Americans during the American war in Vietnam.
Hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese risked their lives and the predations of pirates as they attempted to reach freedom in overloaded leaky craft. Uncounted thousands lost their lives in the process.
Today, it is self-evident that the Vietnamese-American community has paid back the help extended by the U.S. to those who bore the brunt of our Imperial meddling in Vietnam many times over.
In 1975, the U.S. did not wait for the full catastrophe to strike before accepting tens of thousands of refugees. Tiny Wake Island, an atoll in the middle of the Pacific and home to a mere 251 U.S. military and civilian personnel at the time, processed 15,000 Vietnamese refugees. (Tens of thousands of others were processed through Subic Bay and Guam.)
With the imminent fall of Saigon to North Vietnamese forces, President Gerald Ford ordered American forces to support Operation New Life, the evacuation of refugees from Vietnam. The original plans included Subic Bay and Guam as refugee processing centers but due to the high number of Vietnamese seeking evacuation, Wake Island was selected as an additional location.
In March 1975, Island Commander Major Bruce R. Hoon was contacted by Pacific Air Forces (PACAF) and ordered to prepare Wake for its' new mission as a refugee processing center where Vietnamese evacuees could be medically screened, interviewed and then transported to the United States or to other resettlement countries. A 60-man civil engineering team was brought in to reopen boarded-up buildings and housing, two complete MASH units arrived to set up field hospitals and three Army field kitchens were deployed. A 60-man Security Police team, processing agents from the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service and various other administrative and support personnel were also on Wake. Potable water, food, medical supplies, clothing and other supplies were shipped in.
On April 26, 1975, the first C-141 military transport aircraft carrying refugees arrived. The airlift to Wake continued at a rate of one C-141 every hour and 45 minutes, each aircraft with 283 refugees on board. At the peak of the mission, 8,700 Vietnamese refugees were on Wake.
When the airlift ended on August 2, a total of about 15,000 refugees had been processed through Wake Island as part of Operation New Life.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is how America once acted: with responsibility and conscience, not with tepid half-measures but with presidential orders that mobilized the U.S. government to alleviate the suffering of tens of thousands of people.
If you want a taste of frenzied fear and hatred of immigrants, please refer to the response of native-born Americans to the flood of Irish immigrants in the 19th century. It was feared the nation could not survive the onslaught of poor Irish, who brought with them a full spectrum of destruction: drunk, prone to criminality, ready to use their fists at the drop of a hat, typically Catholic--the list of horrors appeared endless.
Now might be the right moment to mention that I'm 38% Irish, and one branch of the family (Scots-Irish) immigrated to the U.S. in the Great Potato Famine. (As for rest of my mongrel mix: 37% Scots/English, 14% Viking, oops I mean Scandinavian, and 11% French, i.e. everything that mixed it up in France. Oh, and let's not forget the 2% Neanderthal buried in the mix... that 2% might have kept me in one piece after many an injury.)
I wonder how many of the mealy-mouthed congress critters who oppose aiding Syrian refugees have relatives who arrived in the U.S. as immigrants or refugees (or slaves). Shall we hazard a guess that it's 100% if we set aside traces of Native American heritage?
The hypocrisy is self-evident. That the U.S. has covertly supported the overthrow of the Assad regime in Syria is an open secret. That there are no American boots on the ground (at least officially) does not absolve the U.S. of partial responsibility for the refugee catastrophe unleashed by the Syrian war.
Of an estimated 4 million Syrian refugees, the U.S. has accepted a mere 1,500. We're told Many Obstacles Are Seen to U.S. Taking in Large Number of Syrian Refugees. I am sure President Ford was told the same thing: it was "impossible" to absorb hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese refugees.
Fortunately, President Ford (a Navy veteran himself) rejected both the defeatism and the implicit wish to wash our hands of any responsibility for our decisions and actions.
Our friend has told us of her childhood visits to relatives in Old Damascus, one of the most ancient cities in the world. Rather than reprint photos of the horrific destruction that has been wrought on Syrian cities, I want to share a photo of Old Damascus by photographer Hasan Bryiez:

According to our friend, a cosmopolitan mix of ethnicities and religious faiths co-existed peacefully in Old Damascus.
Now that world is no more. The social order that enabled peaceful co-existence has been shredded by the war. Though Old Damascus may appear materially undamaged, it too has passed the point where the previous pluralism can be re-established.
This is the bargain that Damascus and Syria made: live under an iron fist in exchange for a social safety net and a space for religious and cultural, if not political, pluralism. Then Syrians took peacefully to the streets in early 2011, claiming that a family mafia oppressed not only the Sunni majority but all citizens. The government responded with overwhelming force, and its opponents turned to arms.
The war in Syria is being fought on multiple levels. One is the Great Game, the geopolitical chess game that I have often addressed: Oil, Empire and Playing the Great Game (October 1, 2014).
It's clear that the goal of ridding the region of the Assad regime will eventually succeed; what is much less clear is what will be made of the torn battlefield.
The U.S. has around 317 million residents. How much of a burden would 50,000 or 100,000 Syrian refugees place on a nation of 317 million, a nation that once airlifted supplies to West Berlin for over a year in defiance of a Soviet blockade, a nation that airlifted 15,000 refugees to a remote atoll in the Pacific in hundreds of C-141 sorties?
Empire comes with responsibilities, and it should come with conscience. The U.S. is not a passive observer in Syria. Those of us outside the Deep State have no idea what's been done or supplied or promised in the name of the American people.
Shall we accept 5% responsibility for events in Syria? That equates to 5% of 4 million refugees or 200,000 refugees.
There are many Syrians already here who are willing to sponsor relatives and friends. There are Christian churches willing to sponsor refugees of any faith, because they seek to walk in the path of Jesus.
There is no shortage of good will in the U.S., only a lack of political will. Sadly, we no longer have presidents or congresspeople who make the "impossible" happen to alleviate the suffering of civilians fleeing war zones.
So every refugee has to be interviewed, screened, and possibly receive medical care. How could the U.S. do so for tens of thousands of Vietnamese refugees in a matter of months, yet now we are so crippled we can only manage to process 1,500 refugees from the Syrian war?
Politico toadies who like to pin American flag buttons to their lapels while ignoring our Imperial responsibilities and the conscience that should go with it are beneath contempt.
Come on, America. We could better and should do better. If we feel no obligation to the refugees from Syria, we owe it to those Americans who stepped up and did their part for refugees from wars past.
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Turkey is closer, let the Turks take them.
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to get free shit and overthrow whitey.
let the oligarchs pay for the refugees problem, they have more money than me, and they caused the mess with thier sock puppets hussein obama & john mctraitor...
Moreover, these are not all Syrians. This group is a cocktail of all kinds of MENA people, with Albanians, Pakistanis, Afghanis, and others thrown in for extra flavoring.
In every non "Madison Ave PR" reel, these 'refugees' are 99% military age, many with smartphones. I call Bravo Sierra on the 'Syrian Refugee' narrative.
This is all about overthrowing the last shreds of European ethnic (and Christian) indentity.
Like George Zimmer, I can make a guarantee, only this one is true: gang rapes, robberies, and towns becoming entirely Muslim are going to be the immediate result of this suicidal pact.
If Europe goes through with this (and they probably will), millions will pour in over the next 12 months alone. I give it an absolute max of 5 years before a major city (Paris, Rome, Berlin, etc.) goes into total chaos and the Muzzies are burning blocks to the ground as they're having their way with the pretty white girls of their pick.
This being a financial blog, if what you say is true, why is the Euro always above the dollar? You would think the demise of Europe would cause the currency to crash.
Albanians!?
Heading South?
I think you're almost right. I would just change one little bit at the end.
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddles masses yearning to get free shit and <RUN> the government.
But John Kerry has already promised ISIS we will parole thousands of their freedom fighters into the United States if they lose their war with Syria and Iraq. Those al-Nusra killers who don't have any funds earned selling stolen antiquities, looted oil or sex slaves have been promised jobs as TSA screeners.
Why doesn't Israel step up to the plate?
haha
Because the Jews are smarter than the Europeans. As usual.
Paid posters are flooding any site that is talking about and against these migrants.
Pipeline Posters !
Greater Israel Posters!
Military Industrial Complex Posters!
so many on the gravy train, it is revolting.
I didn't have much faith in humanity left but now its all trashed...
What ever you think about Israeli culture at least their Prime Minister is standing up for it.
The European Prime Ministers not so much.
False. Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu are neck deep in running ISIS and are almost certainly in on this refugee contrivance.
That they support ISIS is undeniable. To what extent one can debate, though I would say it is obviously to the highest degree. First, ISIS is the only Islamic armed group that does not mention a peep of the Jews, Israel, Jerusalem, etc. Second, who do you think is aiding these savage monkeys in running social media, filming, photography, and PR?
Israel would think she benefits from depopulating the Middle East, and especially benefit by a broken Syria.
They are in a demographic end game and so they are stirring up chaos in their neighboring countries to weaken them. Indeed, it appears that Russia has had just about enough and may well foil this scheme.
Another traitor to his own people. No doubt a Catholic. Satanic suicide cultist.
A baby boomer spouting politically correct nonsense and preaching the genocide of all white people.
All non-whites are garbage and should stay in the garbage dumps of nations their ancestors built for them instead of coming to murder, rape, rob, and leech off of white people.
Furthermore, they are already dumping thousands of Syrian Muslim pieces of shit in the whitest parts of America like Idaho and Maine, so don't worry Charlie boy, the genocide of all white people is still right on track in America you piece of shit. I hope you die soon and your children and grand children die at the hands of the non-white savages you love so much.
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Go take your medication. You seem to be having a "difficult" day. Forced hospitalization in a mental ward may be advisable, in order to guarantee the safety of your surroundings.
The insane Scandinavian who willingly gave up his country to the Muslim hordes knows all about mental illness.
Be sure to put on a clean burqa and wipe your lips off after you get back from servicing your muzzie masters.
Empire with a conscience??? Now THAT is rich.
Charles- Better yet; how about we stop meddling in other countries' affairs? How about we cease with the regime changes?
...and....how about everybody opens their eyes and reads 'Confessions of an Economic Hit Man'.
Who the hell is "we?"
If you are part of the NWO elites, then you need to stop meddling.
"The U.S. has around 317 million residents. How much of a burden would 50,000 or 100,000 Syrian refugees place on a nation of 317 million,"
And almost 100 million of those 317 million are NOT WORKING. Whats the labor force participation rate again??? The workers of this country, who are dwindling in number, can't support every refugee, when they are already supporting 90+ million fat lazy assed Americans. Every business I see around my neck of the woods has a "We're Hiring" sign out front. Yet we have all of these people who DON'T WANT TO WORK!!
I agree. To beggar your own country and its people to save another is not an act of compassion but stupidity.
"The U.S. is not a passive observer in Syria. Those of us outside the Deep State have no idea what's been done or supplied or promised in the name of the American people.
Shall we accept 5% responsibility for events in Syria? That equates to 5% of 4 million refugees or 200,000 refugees"
The policy of a few hundred men and women created this problem and now it equates to A PROBLEM that the common man needs bear, not them.
Would it not be much easier to drag the same 100 inbreds out into the street and shoot them in the fucking head? It would go alot further and have a longer lasting impact on their underlings to straighten the fuck up.
The cause of the unemployment problem is the same as the cause of the Middle East/North African refugee crisis. Make the oligarchs pay for both.
Storm their castles in the cities, and the hamptons, and on Long Island. Break down the gates of their exclusive communities. Drag them out and make them account for their crimes. They have billions upon untold billions of stored away, keeping the world in poverty and war.
Make the bastards pay.
If all their trillions came on the market at once it would be inflationary.
LOL.
There are no "trillions."
It's all a lie.
Money conjured out of nothing.
The Emperor has no clothes.
"Will not work for food"
work be racist, yo.
We got enough Mexicans. Were good.
We can't afford the ones we have.
This is to remind us all that not every immigrant or refugee is a terrorist or welfare recipient.
People are not terrorists. Given a similar upbringing you get a person that learns how to play by the rules. People that understand the ethos of the society they live in.
Corporations are terrorists, mass murderers, suicidal banksters, and so on because a corporation has no morality and does not have a capacity or mechanism for morality. Corporations that take over governments will beyond any doubt among the Q99X2 always lead to planetary destruction. It is a fact that is unavoidable that every civilization that allows powerful and immoral entities to become in control of their governments shall perish.
Actually I took part of the above idea from C.G. Jung Civilization in Transition and Two Essays on Analytical Psychology.
As we well know, it is corporations who say, "Strike the neck of the unbeliever."
Charles. Charles. Charles. Normally a fan...but This is just embarassing. You just used the terms imperial and conscience in the same article, nay, the same sentence. What were you thinking?
And your action step is that we should import more Syrians? When half of able bodied working Americans are out of work...
Speechless.
Half of able bodied "working" Americans are out of work not because there isn't any work. Its because they are fat lazy asses who would rather be on the government's "retirement" plan and take a handout. Why work when you can stay home all day and make just as much or more???
Incentives drive behavior. When sheeple act in educated self interest only according to the math, the elite get the sheeple to do their bidding. Westward expansion, Walmart, GMO food, Welfare, Unemployment, Disability, shall I go on...?
Jesus said we were doing the math wrong when we leave eternity and morality out of our equation. "What does it profit a man to gain the whole world, yet lose his soul..?"
Agreed. CHS, I have enjoyed your work for years. You are truly one of the very few people writing on the internet with original material.
You really shit all over yourself with this one, though.
Charles is a systems thinker who instinctively takes a topdown approach to problems. This article exposes a fundamental weakness of that approach. He also gives the impression of living a protected life, so that his theorizing is somewhat in a vacuum. Compare him to Dmitry Orlov, who is also intellectually brilliant but has a more realistic appreciation of the facts on the ground. He also has a sardonic sense of humor, which is lacking in CHS. Because of Charles' intellectual remove, I find his writings interesting when I read him, but unfortunately too easily forgotten.
Charles, Charles, you should think about moving to Marseille. You can get a really great house on the cheap. You see, real estate has plummeted there as native French people are abandoning their homes and fleeing north. Recently, the police had to flee a nearby community when they found themselves caught in a barage of machine gun fire.
Charles. Charles. Charles. Normally a fan...but This is just embarassing. You just used the terms imperial and conscience in the same article, nay, the same sentence. What were you thinking?
And your action step is that we should import more Syrians? When half of able bodied working Americans are out of work...
Speechless.
Fuck you Charles. The American people said "NO!" to war in Syria and the Deep State went ahead and did it anyway. To punish us by inflicting a horde of Mohammadeans on us is adding injury to insult.
This isn't even close to the situation with the Irish. The Irish never held to a creed that would have us all put to the sword. And besides, we had room then as well as need for labor and we're all full now and have a massive deficit of employment.
If Muslim countries don't want Muslim refugees only a fool would welcome them.
I wouldn't have said fuck you Charlie, 'cos most of the time he's pretty spot on.
Also, it's not that Muslim countries don't want these people, it's just that their once mostly stable existence under mostly benevolent dictators has been up-ended by multi-national industrialists who only want cheap resources (to mark up and re-sell) and unimpeded access to same- while claiming to spread freedom and democracy.
On the other hand, you're right about our 'mandate' for Syria. And Egypt. And Libya. And Ukraine. And... shit! I lost track! Oh! That's right, there wasn't any mandate, was there?
I no longer believe that Jeremiah Wright is a traitor.
I wouldn't have said fuck you Charlie
Try it, it's just as much fun as it looks
OK
Fuck you Sanity Bear!
Nope. Not feelin' it.
try naming someone who wants to flood your town with thousands of gang rapists and murderers
Try not to be a troll, K?
Sanitybear, your last sentence makes no sense. Those countries have already embraced the religion.
How much of a "burden" would 100,000 murderous Muslim savages be? Pretty fucking high. How many of them did it take to pull off 9/11? Not many. You old men have lost your balls. Please see a doctor to get some testosterone supplements. You are pussies. Gaping vaginas begging to be raped by the foreign invaders. You are so cucked you want your daughters and grand daughters raped by non-white invaders.
I know this site is full of 9/11 truthers and people who claim every single act of Islamic terror is a false flag but the truth is Muslims are murderous savages. They did 9/11 and they have carried out countless other acts of terror across the globe going back hundreds of years. To invite them willingly into your home is to invite death and destruction to your own people and is an act of treason. Every Catholic ministry relocating Muslims to the U.S. from Syria, Somalia, or anywhere else needs to be destroyed and the people jailed for high treason. And Charles Hugh Smith? Please die soon, your master Satan is waiting for you on the other side in the pits of hell.
You believe all muslims make good jetliner pilots and therefore helicopter pilots too, so why the contradiction here? Don't you want paper flying from the sky just like 9/11?
You are as deranged and sick as you are dumb.
I say bring them in. And their weapons and maybe just maybe someone will do something to fight the fascists.
Let those self-congratulating-do-gooders sponsor the refugees, rather than the taxpayer.
Sadly the suicide cultists (Catholics) will actually pay their own money to bring these savages into their own homes to murder them and rape their children.
Why don't you fuck off with your Catholic hatred, thick skull? Not all Catholics are in agreement with the latest plant in the Vatican. Like all big organizations, there is a big PC component. In this case it has spent decades dismantling the Catholic religion to prepare for an eventual New World Order Church. Traditional Catholics have been watching this with horror.
Drop them all off in Northern Alaska with some hand tools and wish them luck.
Yes, I support this plan. Drop millions of Muslims off in North Alaska. I support your "final solution" to the Muslim problem Charles.
The US should accept 5% of the refugees. And they should be restricted to the District of Columbia, and given places to stay in government buildings. All funding for their care and feeding and future costs should be born by Congress.
Nothing will change until they are forced to feel the pain they cause.
Race, you haven't been to the Capital District over the last five years or so, have you?
If you make the restriction to the "Capital District" vs. DC, I'd say Bob's Your Uncle! Gotta' include e.g. Tysons, of course.
- Ned
No I have not. The rest of your post went by me.
Fuck Sake! Everybody has a sob story. Does this entitled Boomer think that if we empty every 3rd world shit-hole into the US and Europe that *Magically* the wold's problems will be solved, and pink unicorns will abound with skittles shooting out of their asses? JESUS TITTY FUCKING CHRIST!!!! It's like the "West" is committing suicide, and no body sees it!
Oh we see it. These Boomers will be in the ground soon, very soon. And the generations that follow are quite different indeed. The Boomers are the softest, most effeminate, most entitled pieces of shit in human history. But to hear them tell it they all grew up in a wartorn nation instead of the richest, most powerful, and most prosperous time/nation in human history where literally any moron could drop out of high school at 16 and go get a good paying job to support a family, house, car, etc. (American Dream - Boomer Dream).
Could not agree more! Can't wait till their children start packing them off to retirement homes or they have major medical needs and some H1B with a 3rd World medical education is taking care of 'em. LOL, they'll probably realize too late that it wasn't a good idea to screw over their children and grandchildren.
It's fascinating how White Supremacy lunatics keep dividing people into smaller & smaller units, until only one man and his Dachshund are left.
Now that you mention it, I haven't seen my dachshund in awhile. Oh, there he is! Sleeping.
He's worse than useless, spoiled beyond repair, loyal to a fault- and has more personality than a lot of bi-peds I know.
Fuckin' dog!
It's 7:00 PM, do you know where your dachshund is?
"It's fascinating how White Supremacy lunatics keep dividing people into smaller & smaller units, until only one man and his Dachshund are left."
It's even more fastinating to see Scandinavian lunatics willingly give up their countries to the Muslim hordes.
The decendants of once proud Vikings now lay down on their backs without a fight and throw their legs up in the air.
You are clueless about history.
And you are a clueless feminized Kafir.
Now go wash your Muslim master's feet.
Eirik, that is what is known as "projection" on your part. Back to Saul, Chapter 4 I think. - Ned
Watch what you study, Ned
Watch it real close.
Verily I say unto you;
There ain't no book of Saul.
There was no such thing as IS-RA-EL prior to 1948.
1948!
If Paul was once Saul...
Oh, nevermind. Be well and content.
Its all about the votes. Politicians are nothing more than "shape shifters". They will do and say ANYTHING for a vote. They will take your money and give it to someone else for a vote. Why do you think they are letting all of these people flood our southern border? FOR VOTES!! Both parties are guilty of it, thats why we are going straight into the shitter. The leaders of the West don't give a rat's ass about whether or not their countries go to shit, as long as they are the ones in power, THEY DON'T CARE!
Fuck you Charles.
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https://mopo24.de/nachrichten/park-chemnitz-zentrum-missbrauch-siebenjae...
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http://www.idowa.de/home/artikel/2015/02/02/zwei-versuchte-vergewaltigun...
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http://www.pi-news.net/2015/08/sexattacke-auf-14-jaehrige-durch-fluechtl...
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Pamela Geller? Isn't she Jewish? That will bring you into conflict wit some others around here.
You know. Zion is a Village in Illinois.
The reason the US is not stepping up and accepting refugees is because that will place more pressure from the American public to immediately stop supporting the rebels (ISIS, AQ) and end the war now. That's reason #1
Reason #2 is to burden Europe and place it into some sort of shock and frustration. People are easier to manipulate when there's an "alien threat" in your neighborhood.
And the nativist xenophobes and neo-nazis came out in seconds. Nothing riles up those fuckers faster than brown people.
Yes, the many crimes committed by these foreign invaders against whites upsets me. I know you hate white people so why don't you just fucking say it?
Let me guess: "Anti-racism is code for anti-white?" I've heard it many times before, always from the drooling inbreds swarming out of Stormfront.
Let me guess, the Scandinavian lunatic is a self-hating white fool who is always on the look out for any sign of white racism? We've heard that many times before, always from the indoctrinated leftist pigs in the soon to be northern Islamic caliphates formerly known as the socialist welfare countries of Sweden, Denmark, and Norway.
So Eirik, how many Muslims do you service in a day?
(whispering) Embrace the Muslims, little Zero's. Embrace the Muslims.
i would gladly trade a somolian for a syrian
i would love to have ppl here from syria
instead oh shit ferkin somolians...
How about neither?
"Empire comes with responsibilities, and it should come with conscience. The U.S. is not a passive observer in Syria. Those of us outside the Deep State have no idea what's been done or supplied or promised in the name of the American people."
-& thus bear ZERO responsibility.
"Shall WE accept 5% responsibility for..."
-YOU can accept for YOURSELF. I accept ZERO responsibility. Bugger off.
"because they seek to walk in the path of JESUS."
-I HATE proselytizers who try to shame me for not sharing their faith and HATE EVEN MORE assholes that have no real faith but use the language of faith to push personal ideological and/or enrichment agenda.
"There is no shortage of good will in the U.S., only a lack of political will. Sadly, we no longer have presidents or congresspeople who make the "impossible" happen to alleviate the suffering of civilians fleeing war zones."
-You got something right: the President and the Congresspersons are shallow, untrustworthy, and thoroughly corrupt...
-The Government is a pox on the populace..
"Politico toadies who like to pin American flag buttons to their lapels while ignoring our Imperial responsibilities and the conscience that should go with it are beneath contempt."
-Ok, you got two things right... The Oligarchs and their toady class should pay for their sins. NOT I. NOT the innocent and uninvolved.
"Come on, America. We could better and should do better. If we feel no obligation to the refugees from Syria, WE OWE IT TO those Americans who stepped up and did their part for refugees from wars past. "
-Ah, the old 'YOU OWE something to someone who once did something for someone other than yourself' bullshit.
-The very basis for Boomer claims to MY productivity: the unproven claims to have done something for someone else once...
-Not buying it.
LOL, did anyone else notice in the photo that all the windows had bars across 'em? Hahahaha…sure, let 'em in. They'll bring their ancient culture with 'em.
Yea and that one gusset for the porch slab is about to let loose.
Charles, like all your stuff, but where does this end? The US is muckraking in Somalia, Yemen, Lybia, Egypt, Columbia, Pakistan, and the obvious ones, Iraq, Trashganistan, Syria and who-fucking-knows-where else. I'm sure I left out a dozen others. WHERE DOES IT END? How many fucking obligations do we have? What's 50,000 more? What's 500,000 more? What's 5,000,000 more?
There are anywhere from 10~20+ million illegals, we all know not a single one is ever going to get deported.
There's the mass mainland Chinese invasion. The Indian H-2 job stealers, the Mexicans, Venezuelans, Hondurans, Costa Ricans, Salvadorians.....
WHERE. DOES. IT. FUCKING. END?????
This country has lost its goddamned mind. 94 million working-age Americans not in the work force, but we don't have obligations anymore to our own citizens. We're obligated to sweat and toil so that the Somalis and Haitians and Jamaicans and Nicaraguans and Eritrians can take our low paying jobs, our high paying jobs, our university seats, our tenured jobs, everything.
WHERE. DOES. IT. FUCKING. END???????
The wheels truly are coming off the wagon.
Doc, it 'ends', when you are an extreme minority in you own country, after which you (and I) will be enslaved by the desperate masses yearning for more free crap.
See you in Greenland!
Already happening in California.
It makes me laugh to hear you Americans calling it "your own country".
Get this - EVERYBODY in America is either an immigrant or a descendant of immigrants. It doesn't matter if you are descended from white British Protestants; that doesn't give you a greater claim to the land. It just means you had greater force on your side. Nothing new there then.
So the Mexicans and Arabs and whoever else is "taking over" "your" country? Now you know what it felt like for the native Americans when your ancestors raided the continent and squeezed them into smaller and smaller holdings, and eventually into reservations where alcohol was their only way out.
We're White. We will burn our way out. As many pyres for foreign swarms as it takes. The American Savages did not have nukes, anthrax or sarin gas.
This is our land. Come and take it.
Only a fool would want an invasion of millions of people into their country.
Especially when they are Muslims hordes who enact Sharia Laws and want everyone to convert to Islam with the threat of death.
Neither you nor Charles reaize how different it is this time. It's change you can believe in.
You're all against this, but we must face this future together. We are all Japanese now, so build pods in your houses and we can all build the future together.
Besides, there will be plenty of jobs flying helicopters.
I call BULLSHIT on that 1500 number. I've noticed a shitload of them since 2012 moving into a neighborhood near me. They're all living in the "affordable housing" (see: FREE) apartments and swamping the supermarket with their EBT cards and shitty little kids, excuse me, anchor babies. In fact, a bunch of the scarf wearing women have taken to begging outside the shopping mall now. A little slice of the 3rd world in my own backyard.
"This is to remind us all that not every immigrant or refugee is a terrorist or welfare recipient." Except when they are.
pour gasoline on them.
When Syria sucks my imperial cock, I'll re-examine my *cough* imperial responsibility.
At what point do we tell the world: Hey, fuck you, we don't owe you shit and you're on your own.
We should decide this now while we are not under any significant pressure rather than try to figure it out once the crisis has gotten ever worse.
At some point we have to issue last call, turn off the "open" sign, and close the doors. Make the call early so the unfortunate souls on the road can decide on a viable destination rather than pinning their hopes on a chimera.
Good luck, tarabel. You know this ain't gonna stock while Buh'rahhhk O'bahmba is in the White House. You see, he's busy 'fundamentally transforming America'.
+ eleventy million
Tell the bastards in DC to stop bombing the shit out of countries then claiming we must help the poor refugees that we created!
Lunacy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"We?"
If you had a hand in creating this mess, knock it off!
And they're not "refugees!" More like Muslim invaders who are looking for the best welfare.
very funny, tarabel
As long as the US was the one who burned down Iraq, Libya, and Syria -- countries who got caught in the crossfire between the US's avarice and its goodie two shoes act -- YOU NEVER SAY IT.
But you knew that all the time.
Doesnt America take in enought Haitians and Mexicans, and some Wankers expect America to accept some 4 million Syrians as wel.
F'off asshole. I've been in American academia and seen how "diversity" bullshit has injured tax paying Americans. It's time Universities did right by the society that gave them birth and educate actual Americans and gave them opportunities to have productive jobs. And fck your idiotic comments about how we would not have these wonderful medical workers without immigrants. Please die. In fact, go back to you mf desert and die with your intimate goats.
Well there is your problem right there. University.
If you are motivated you don't need a university. If you are not motivated you don't need a university.
Empire comes with Responsibility and requires conscience....
Can't help but think how, if this philosophy was embraced when the petrodollar system was instituted, we would not be where we are today. Sadly it was abused for decades, sowing the seeds of hatred and discontent around the world, commonly referred today as terrorism. Slowly I think this reality is beginning to dawn on the citizens of the US.
94 million here dont have a job---Yes the US has some responsibility since Obama's nose is up the House of Saud's ass--Work with Putin to make safe zones IN THE MIDDLE EAST for the refugees to go and since the Saudis and Iran are as much to blame--they foot the bill for social programs. Sorry Tyler--I am tired of hearing I NEED TO DO MORE. Immigration needs TURNED OFF until TRUE unemployment gets better
And one last freaking thing--this whole USA needs to accept more refugees and immigrants is being started by moveon.org---whats that tell the person of average intelligence. They were behind the movement to get Germany overrun with them (between 500,000 and 1,000,000) and furthermore that freaking Pope comes over here and addresses the UN and Congress and tells us the same message then he needs to pitch a few thousand tents in Vatican city and shut his big trap.
The Syrians are quality immigrants, and Obama is arguably responsible for destroying their country. Yes we should take them, and take less of the other odd "refugees" from places with traditions far less compatible with ours.
There, did I say that politically correctly enough?
Let them go to some other sand country.
There are only bad choices now since Obama chose to promote ISIS to destroy the fine old land of Syria. He took our military and used it badly and it's "our" fault in some sense, well it's nobody else's fault either except for him and his bastard friends.
I don't think these Syrians will be leeching on welfare much or at all. Take them and use it as and excuse to refuse others, including those sneaking in across the Mexican border.
Wow. Such vitriol.
Please distinguish people being crucified and/or raped because they're not Muslim enough or are Christians and people who exploit progressive politics and policies. Are we so jaded we can't see the crimes against humanity being perpetrated on the Christians in Syria and what was Iraq?
Charles is spot on! All kinds of room in America for anyone who can get across the border. Except for these Christians. That's where the line in the sand is.
Hi Charles, How did you establish who is responsible? Because this is probably not the last time you would be writing aobut this crisis.
Europe has taken plenty of Christians from the Middle Easts Christian purging by the Muslims.
I think the US should do that also.
As has been shown here many times, the US has been integral in fascilitating this purging
Now wonder, we have a Muslim president
Get a clue.
You are a good Man Charles Hugh-Smith.
I respect your mind. You do the world a favor by sharing your thoughts.
When will the 'millions' of refugee Syrians accept responsibility for their own cowardice? Not defending the actions of Obama but the Syrians need to stand up for themselves...
Are the Turks killing, or creating Kurdish refugees?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/6/islamic-state-mounts-bomb...
OK, enough hand-wringing doomer bullshit and snivelling weakness, how about some reality now:
Playing moral bingo
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/commen...
Aylan Kurdi and the death of truth
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/commen...
Column - Aylan Kurdi’s tragic death is not what politicians claim
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/P10/
Europe no longer thinks it’s worth saving
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/commen...
In the comments section of your last cited article:
"Quote from Mark Stein today:
As to whether they’re refugees, well, usually, refugees flees as families. Yet here, from those UN statistics, is he breakdown of those “refugees”:
13 per cent children
12 per cent women
75 per cent men
That’s not the demographic distribution of fleeing refugees, but of an invading army"
Not to mention that real refugees want refuge, and they take it nearby to the site of disturbance if they can.
They do not en-masse just make a bee-line for the political capital of Western Europe. And why do all of them want to go to Germany, all of a sudden?
Distance from Damascus to Berlin is: 1,736 miles / 2,793.82 km / 1,508.54 nm
So, 2,800 km trek to seek 'refuge' ... in Germany ... a country with a long horrible history of violently hating immigrants, and ME immigrants in particular. And these persons have deliberately bypassed dozens of other perfectly viable sites of refuge in other states, all along the way. And that's 2,800 km in a straight line, as the true distance traveled is probably closer to 4,000 km.
So these are clearly not refugees, but it probably is a fifth column.
"The concept of Hijrah- Immigration- as a means of supplanting the native population and reaching the position of power became a well-developed doctrine in Islam. Immigration in Islam is not a Western liberal romance about how the newcomers gratefully search for opportunities for a better life in liberty and offer their talents and loyalty to the benefit of their new homeland. Immigration as Islam sees it is an instrument of Islamic expansionism that employs religious and ethnic separatism in order to gain special status and privilege, then subvert, subdue, and subjugate non-Muslim societies and pave the way for their total Islamization and implementation of Shari’ah law.
The main principle for a Muslim community in a non-Muslim country is that it must be separate and distinct. Already in the Charter of Medina, Muhammad outlined the basic rule for Muslims who emigrate to non-Muslim land, i.e., they must form a separate body, keeping their own laws and making the host country comply with them:
(3) The Quraysh emigrants according to their present custom shall pay the bloodwit within their number and shall redeem their prisoners with the kindness and justice common among believers.
Muslims from the beginning made it clear that they were going to live by their own laws.
Source: http://www.nationalturk.com/en/woolwhich-murderbritain-under-danger-unde...
Source: http://www.nationalturk.com/en/woolwhich-murderbritain-under-danger-unde...
Muhammad’s teachings forbid Muslims to immigrate to a non-Muslim country if they pursue the goal of their own personal gain or pleasure. But if they immigrate with the ultimate goal of spreading Islam and making it victorious, or at least this is a part of the reason for their immigration, then they are allowed both pleasure and personal gain. A Muslim immigrant should not integrate with the host society, but if his stay depends on showing some kind of integration to the host non-Muslim society, then he is permitted to demonstrate a fake integration, only in appearance and only temporarily, until the goal of subduing and the Islamization of this host society is achieved.
That is why all those discussions so popular among Western liberals about which method is best for the integration of the religious Muslim immigrants into the host non-Muslim societies are not only futile; they are amusing, like disputes about the best way to make a tiger a vegetarian.
The next rule Muhammad made clear was that immigration for Muslims is a religious duty. The reason is simple and evident: the more Muslims come to a non-Muslim country, the more possibilities this will open for infiltration in all structures of this country with the final goal of securing victory for Islam, and more soldiers will stand up when the time of Jihad comes. Immigration is a preparatory stage to Jihad, and Muhammad made it very clear when he said:
“I charge you with five of what Allah has charged me with: to assemble, to listen, to obey, to immigrate and to wage Jihad for the sake of Allah.”[1]
The religious duty of immigration was stated in numerous Koranic Surahs: 2:218, 8:72,74,75; 9:30,; 16:41; 16:110…They all start with the same words: “Those who believed and emigrated, and strove hard and fought in Allah’s Cause…” Immigration goes as a step stone for Jihad; where you cannot establish Islam by force is where Immigration enters. And in practice, it looks like that: Islam in Egypt, Palestine and Persia was spread by the sword; but many other countries- Indonesia, Malaysia, Central Asia, some parts of India- were gained through “immigration.”
Immigration in Islam is merely a disguised conquest.
And if someone thinks that this disguised conquest ended, then they are fatally wrong: immigration ends only when Islam achieves its goal of conquering the world, and Muhammad, again, stated this very clearly:
“Migration cannot be ended as long as there is kufr (unbelief) or as long as there is an enemy that resists” [2]
Later Muhammad developed this idea, saying:
“Migration will continue until the sun rises from the West. Hijrah would not be stopped until repentance is cut off, and repentance will not be cut off until the sun rises from the West”[3]
So immigration can end only when a community or a country has been won over, and the conquest has been achieved. But Jihad does not end until all the world is Islamic, and Muslims should not stop until Islam dominates the world.
As Muhammad formulated it, “There can be no Hijrah (migration) after the conquest but Jihad and a desire or an intention, and if you settle then spread out.”
From the start, Muhammad brushed aside the Christian postulate about separation of Church and State: in the Islamic community, Church is State, and State is Church. The most important result of Hijrah was the expansion of Islam outside its initial borders not only as a religion, but as a socio-religious and socio-political system. Muslim immigration is a transitional period of preparation for transforming the host society from an open society into an Islamic society of the “slaves of Allah” and of establishing a political system, a State, based on Islamic principles."
By: Y.K. Cherson
Just come to England and take a look at the great swathes of islam in city after city.
London is now majority non Brit so are 9 of our other cities.
Birmingham on the brink.
We have the highest birthrate in the EU but the Brits can't afford children - they are taxed blind to keep the rest.
We have an official population of 65,000,000 - Supermarkets say 80,000.000 and thats pretty obviously right as the government tries to play down the immigrant figure - which your eye sight tells you is bogus.
We are being invaded, occupied and replaced.
We are a tiny little island with one of the densest populations on the planet.
Our PM wants 25,000 Syrians and others of this plague.
Look at the pictures of them.
They are fit young males - not refugees.
They are coming in to take our country.
All muslim - all with fighting skills - with one idea the European Caliphate.
Rumour has it that their fares are paid for by the Saudis and others - where are they getting the cash otherwise.
Many in Britain and the EU are scared stiff.
And David Cameron our PM.
He wants a muslim to succed him as Prime Minister and is grooming one to do so.
He wants a muslim as chief of Defense Staff.
We are being utterly betrayed right across Europe.
Take a look at the Barcelona Declaration.
They claim it was stopped in 2009.
It just has another name.
@MOG
You didn't mention Rotherham. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11695826/Rotherham-child-se...
Rotherham is the real migrant crisis. 1400 British girls raped by foreign invaders. With the treasonous politicians covering up for the rapists, because Diversity!
And it's not on your telescreen for a reason, Winston.
Now might be the right moment to mention that I'm 38% Irish, and one branch of the family (Scots-Irish) immigrated to the U.S. in the Great Potato Famine. (As for rest of my mongrel mix: 37% Scots/English, 14% Viking, oops I mean Scandinavian, and 11% French, i.e. everything that mixed it up in France. Oh, and let's not forget the 2% Neanderthal buried in the mix... that 2% might have kept me in one piece after many an injury.)
If you are a real American, native-born or otherwise, you don't need to indulge in this ancestor-percentage crap.
1,500?
Charles, the fucking number should be ZERO.
Now I know why Hitler was openly envious of America's once strict immigration policies... because Germany was forced to take in most of the post-WWI refugees after it's rightful victory was stolen as a result of America's late and shameful entry into the war.
Overlooked is the "mafia" aspect of this massive immigration. They come to Europe and engage in illegal pursuits, which are excused and promoted by certain religious precepts. Ask the Italians and Sicilians how hard it is to uproot an entrenched mafia. Still not accomplished anywhere such mafias exist. The usual strategy is simply to reduce their activity below a somewhat tolerable threshhold. In this case, any counter mafia prosecution can be branded religious discrimimation. There is also omerta. The state and its controlled media have become complicit in this, particularly in Europe. Non-discrimination laws have lead to massive infiltration of all government functions, including those functions assigned to combat terrorism. European countries are in no way capable of meeting this challenge and they already recognize this. They have made a conscious decision not to challenge this takeover but simply to engage in little skirmishes here and there to fool their citizens. The craven leadership is hoping that their asses will be protected when the blood hits the fan. Fools!
CHS writings are swirling around in the bowl, more and more these days.
I have been watching with some interest this and other tapes of the Syrians in Budapest. At Keleti station which is where, I assume, the trains for Germany depart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_xDTSz7yRc
It is pretty amazing to watch these good natured people who have given up their homes and have been traveling for weeks to get to Germany. Married couples with children and babies, all sleeping on the floor of a railroad station.
Police guarding the entrance to the platforms. Being talked at by 'leaders'. Making noise by slapping around empty plastic water bottles in unison.
It dawned on me what was going on when I saw the preponderance of young men in their late teens and twenties.
The Negro and his agents had arranged for the refugees to leave Syria to spare them from being killed by the Negro and his agents.
Whatever the refugees may represent, foremost on that list is depriving Assad of men for his army.
"It dawned on me what was going on when I saw the preponderance of young men in their late teens and twenties."
Yes, a Muslim invasion.
Yes, an invasion of young families who had no desire to be disemboweled by the NATO revolutionaries, either moderate or wild, nor a desire to be beheaded by ISIS, ISIL, or IS, depending on what the MSM decided to call them this week.
And the whole hootenanny led by Syrian Gauleiters in the pay of the CIA.
Nothing at all suspicious about the fact that even though the Syrian Rebellion had started in 2011, the 'invaders' all decided to move to Europe at the very same moment in August 2015.
Or that the countries impacted by their wandering were the ungrateful countries of East Europe, who had let Washington and Brussels know of their dissatisfaction with the Negro's sanctions.
Greece, Serbia, Hungary, Austria, etc.
Who called the Mediterranean ferry devision of uber to get all those boats ready for the crossing? Noodleman, no doubt.
And as for the young men in Keleti Station in shorts, tee shirts and baseball cap, none of them had any more desire to die fighting against US/NATO than you and I have a desire to die fighting for US/NATO.
It was the dictators that held the Middle East together.
Why doesn't democracy work in the Middle East?
Democracy needs floating voters to work, it is the floating voters who determine who gets into power, Republicans or Democrats.
In the Muslim world there are two types of voters, Sunni and Shia, but there are no floating voters. A Shia Muslim is not going to become Sunni Muslim between elections or vice versa.
Whoever has the majority, Sunni or Shia, will always get into power leaving a very sizeable disenfranchised minority, who quite understandably get a bit hacked off.
This problem is not just confined to the Middle East.
In Northern Ireland a disenfranchised Catholic minority led to similar problems.
well, dont worry, germanys vice chancelor just said that germany could take 500.000 or more a year for multiple years without any problem.
i think he was drugged when he said that, but ok, keep them coming.
sorry, this article is BS. i'm getting used to the government using irrational emotional pleas to avoid rational discoourse but this is not helpful. drawing attention to america's role in this latest mass murder campaign is absolutely fair game but not drawing a distinction between refugees and migrants is not just sloppy it is irresponsible.
if we are going to play the statist game we need states. states have borders and rules governing the ins and outs. can these be altered in times of emergency? of course, but still a free for all is not the only option there. to say these governments are overwhelmed is bull. if it were in their interest they would print funds and hire slobs in two minutes flat to regulate these flows. they are intentionally bolstering the roles of dependent takers which they will convert to voters asap to consolidate their stranglhold on power.
i think the murder and mayhem that obama is directly causing with his war in syria is abominable.
talk about that directly and without an emotional overlay.
i think that the us created IS, ISIS, ISIL, Al queda, chaos factor is abominable.
talk about that without appealing to "the poor children" meme.
Saudis Check into DC in Style While Czechs Subjected to Cheap Shot Agitprops:
http://winteractionables.com/?p=24778
Only 5 % responsibility? The writer seems to be a true patriot! ;)
"Drowned Syrian Boy" propaganda unravels.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/07/story-begins-to-unravel-about-drowned-...