NYPD Cops Fire 84 Shots At Murder Suspect, Miss 83 Times

Tyler Durden's picture

Late last month, an undercover NYPD officer picked up alleged illegal weapons dealer Jeffrey Aristy - from whom he had purchased some 25 guns on 10 separate occasions - in the Bronx and drove him to meet his “cousin” Samuel Ruiz in Mount Vernon.

It was either a set up or else everyone was just in the wrong place at the wrong time because just as the two men were ready to pull off, 37-year old Alvin Smothers jumped in the backseat, pointed a gun at the officer’s head, and robbed him of the $2,400 he had brought to buy the illegal guns from Aristy. Smothers then tried to run away when the officer broke cover and fired somewhere between 11 and 21 shots at the would be robber who had a tough time returning fire because as it turned out, the gun he had just put to the officer’s head was fake. Tragically, a 61-year old devout Jehovah’s Witness who was walking up the street was killed as the officer shot at the fleeing Smothers. The New York Post summed up the story quite effectively last week as follows: "A bystander was shot and seriously wounded by an NYPD cop in Westchester Friday afternoon when a suspect the officer was buying illegal guns from tried to rob him." 

Now there are obviously a number of absurd things about that story, but what shouldn’t get lost in the sheer ridiculousness is the fact that this undercover officer fired as many as 21 shots in the middle of the street at a fleeing suspect and somehow managed to hit a bystander not once, but twice in the midsection. 

So while the NYPD looks to be fairly accurate when it comes to accidentally shooting senior citizens in the chest, they don’t fare as well when engaged in firefights with suspected murderers who are shooting at them

Enter 27-year old Jerrol Harris.

Harris was apparently rummaging around in a car in Brooklyn last Friday night when the car’s owner, one Leon Faison, confronted him.

Harris then shot Faison.

Undeterred, the 52-year old gave chase as Harris attempted to flee and when both Harris and Faison simultaneously spotted a pair of police officers, a firefight was joined. 

According to RT, Harris took up a position behind a parked car and shattered a police cruiser’s windshield before retreating anew. The officers fired 52 shots at him all of which missed. 

Shortly thereafter, Harris found himself cornered, at which point two more officers fired 32 additional shots at the suspect. Finally, one bullet struck Harris in the calf. He's now in custody (with a flesh wound) facing first-degree and second-degree attempted murder charges. 

So there, ladies and gentlemen are your tax dollars at work. Not a lot of protecting and/or serving, but a whole lot of shooting.

Asked to explain how it's possible that after turning Bushwick into the Wild West, several trained officers managed to miss the mark a staggering 83 out of 84 times they pulled the trigger, NYPD Deputy Commissioner Stephen Davis explained that, much like true biker shootouts, real "running gun battles" are wildly unpredictable affairs:

“You have a running gun battle here. There are a lot of cops involved and it takes place in several different locations. It’s not as if everything was stationary.”

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junction's picture

Buy these cops eye glasses.  Then let them go on disability.

Tonald J Drump's picture

as Borat would say , " great success ! ! "

JungleCat's picture

Support #PoliceOcularHealthMatters

There will be a thorough investigation into this "incident". There will be "accountability".

WillyGroper's picture

Retinal Rectumosis.

Better medical with a wench plan.

nuubee's picture

This just means they'll get more/better training to hit center of mass at the slightest hint of danger to themselves in the future.

TeamDepends's picture

According to Common Core, 83 misses out of 84 shots "ain't bad".

nuubee's picture

Much like our high school system, they're allowed to keep shooting until they hit.

Dick Gazinia's picture

If Obozo took a big greasy shit it would look like this guy.

Rick Blaine's picture

In all fairness to the cops involved, NYPD has to use what are like 10 lb triggers in their Glocks (which is absurd).  Yeah, it makes it less likely that you accidentally pull the trigger...but it also makes it harder to hit what you are aiming at when you do intend to pull the trigger.

Magnix's picture

NYPD was supposed to be the world most professional cops!? This is a joke! I only know German cops are the world's most professional cops!

Headbanger's picture

Trigger pull on NYPD Glocks is rumored to be 17 lbf  so they don't shoot themselves in the foot.

That plus Glock triggers are like a sponge is no help.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA8hK32JRRw   <<<-- Sponge trigger

Relentless101's picture

83 stray bullets flying through NYC. Not OK.

TerminalDebt's picture

Obviously cops need to carry grenade launchers

Temporalist's picture

And all the doomers on ZH were wondering why DHS needs 1 billion bullets...

Uchtdorf's picture

Give all the policemen involved a trophy and send them to Dairy Queen for ice cream.

pods's picture

The shot that hit him was probably a ricochet.


Rubbish's picture

No Hornady Critical Duty?


Gold Bitchez....I pick up pennies

Tarshatha's picture
Drug addict dodged 19 police bullets

Funny story by house, .... a lot cops have no gun care and control or skills all over.


"I didn't want to hurt anyone. I had no weapon," he said.

O'Connell said the shooting began moments after the SUV crashed into the light standard in the Fairmont subdivision in east London.

"I opened the door and ran around the front of the (SUV) and that's when the cop shouted 'Freeze!' and I told him I was unarmed and I wasn't stopping," he said.

O'Connell estimated he was less than 10 metres and possibly as few as six metres away when the officer opened fire.

"I thought there was no way he was shooting at me," he said. "I thought it was a Taser."

The pair ran through the rear yards and several fences of at least three properties. O'Connell said he kept getting "lit up" by laneway lights equipped with motion sensors.

O'Connell said the foot chase ended in less than a minute when he climbed onto a deck and sat on a chair as more police officers arrived.

"I saw them and I said, 'Hi. I'm Chris Jones. The guy ran over there,' trying to make them think I lived there," he said. "But the officers just yelled, 'Get down on the ground!' and I did. I just laid down.


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HowdyDoody's picture

The cops clearly have investments in ammunition companies.

e_goldstein's picture

I'd be fine with it if it occured in lower Manhattan.

Temporalist's picture

And not 1 hipster "accidentally" injured.

HowdyDoody's picture

No self-respecting bullet would go anywhere near a 'hipster'

Dakota Kid's picture

If I couldn't shoot any better than these clown's, I'd resign from the force.

They are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.

tnquake's picture

NY Glock trigger pull is 11 lbs, both models NY1 and NY2.

If memory serves me, need to be LEO to purchase or a Glock LEO armorer.

SamAdams's picture

11 lbs?!?!?  That's not a trigger, that's a liberal-proof safety!

ZD1's picture

Meanwhile, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo's first deputy counsel, Carey Gabay, is in critical condition Monday morning, after being shot in the head during the pre-dawn festivities for the annual West Indian Day Parade in Brooklyn while being caught in gunfire between rival gangs.

The shooting was part of a spate of violence tied to the trouble-prone parade Monday. Among the other incidents:

  • An unidentified man, 24, was fatally stabbed in the torso and another man shot in the buttocks during a large fight on Empire Boulevard and Bedford Avenue at about 2 a.m., police said. The second man, 21, was listed in stable condition at New York Methodist Hospital, authorities said.
  • A 20-year-old man was grazed on the hand on Empire Boulevard and Bedford Avenue shortly after Gabay was shot nearby at Bedford and Sullivan Place, cops said. Officers busted a man at the scene and recovered a pistol.
  • A 39-year-old man was shot at about 4:20 a.m. on Martense Street and Nostrand Avenue. He was taken to Kings County and was expected to survive.
  • A 33-year-old man was stabbed in the abdomen at 3:13 p.m. during a dispute behind a parade float at Rochester Avenue and Eastern Parkway. He was taken to Kings County Hospital in stable condition.

The race of the victims or of the perpetrators was not included in any of the news reports. 

No police officers appear to be involved in any of the incidents.

Mayor Bill de Blasio attended the parade and declared: “We will fight against the propagation of guns with everything we have because we can’t keep losing good young men.”


FIAT CON's picture

Most murderers or killers know their victim, and in most of these cases, I would bet that neither the stabber/shooter or the victim would fall under the "good young men " category.

0b1knob's picture

In all fairness to the police, it can be very difficult to see Canadians in the dark, let alone shoot them.

TeamDepends's picture

Chief Wiggum: That's some fine shootin', boys.

SamAdams's picture

"Canadians" = clandestine 5-0 lingo...

COSMOS's picture

They cops always say that they highly trained and that normal citizens should not be allowed to carry guns.  I can name a ton of citizens that can shoot way better than that.

Good thing they didnt kill a bunch of civillians could of been a massacre.

They should be made to shoot regularly and pass range tests to keep their jobs.  And those range tests should be yearly and monitored by private citizens who have the most to lose if the cops miss.

FIAT CON's picture

I would bet that they are not hired for their skills, but hired for their need of a job and their loyalty to support and obey their commanders no matter how ruthless the command.

WillyGroper's picture

Retinal Rectumosis.

Better medical with a wench plan.

RafterManFMJ's picture

Was it Harris' cow that the cop hit? Did the cow die? Shitty reporting.

pods's picture

Now I see why they ordered so much ammo.


benb's picture

And that boil down my friend is why you are recognized as the King of One Liners on this board.

pods's picture

Eh, I wasn't even the first guy with that comment on this thread, but TY.

And HT to who beat me below!


Temporalist's picture

I wish I had not just got here and posted it above (says the guy who walked into the middle of a conversation).

Uchtdorf's picture

This is what I don't get. I thought one reason police departments all over were being so easily militarized, both with equipment and in terms of training, was because there are so many veterans unable to find work in anything but law enforcement. If police departments are being filled up with ex-military types, don't they know how to shoot better than as described in this article?

Fedaykinx's picture

frankly, because handguns are inherently much harder to shoot accurately and require many many more rounds downrange during practice to maintain the skills necessary to do so.  by the nature of a rifle or shotgun, the site radius is much longer and the platform is much more stable with three points of contact to the body (both hands pulling the weapon into your shoulder)

most cops aren't pistol marksmen and never will be, it would require much more time and money than the departments are willing to spend.  unless the officer pays for it himself it won't happen.

chumbawamba's picture

American cops are the saddest bunch of deranged psychopaths ever to be put up to protect the elite of a society.  Entitled, overly-coddled, and they still demand more: more money, more protection from the people they abuse and kill, more protection from the laws that they violate when they abuse or kill people.

They deserve no respect, no compassion, and no quarter when the war starts.

I am Chumbawamba.

Lost in translation's picture

I sure do miss your posts, Chumba...

Ace006's picture

For plain ignorance, that comment can't be beat.

Ace006's picture

You don't know anything about the conditions the officers faced.  Light, distance, nearby civilians, only sidearms -- all affect the result of a gun battle.  Next time study up on what the police were up against before you make smart comments.

roadhazard's picture

Sounds like the five hundred Italian sharpshooters that put three bullets into Mussolini.

KnuckleDragger-X's picture

And meanwhile I can put six shoots inside a one inch circle at twenty meters with a .357, but I'm the one who is a dangerous amateur and is a menace to society. If only I was black with my pants hanging at my knees.....

pods's picture

I'll give you a blowjob if you can put all six shots in a 1 inch circle at 20 meters with any pistol.

And I'm not gay.