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Read This Before The Mainstream Media Uses A Drowned Refugee Boy To Start Another War

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Submitted by Dan Sanchez via TheAntiMedia.org,

A baby boy turned to flotsam. Washed up on the shore, face down in the mud. His family, refugees from Syria’s civil war, had tried to reach Greece, but their over-crowded raft overturned in the Mediterranean Sea and he drowned along with his brother and mother. The viral image of 3-year-old Aylan Kurdi’s lifeless little body on a Turkish beach has shaken the conscience of the West and wrenched America’s attention to the refugee crisis now rocking Europe.

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Newsflash to the oblivious citizenry of the power-projecting “free world”: this is what war looks like. This times ten million. That which is mere “foreign policy” to you and your government is desperation and death to those on the receiving end of it.

Children just as innocent and precious as Aylan are being driven into the sea in Libya, incinerated by drone in Pakistan, or starved to death in Yemen all the time, and it is all on your dime. And every single instance creates a sight just as achingly forlorn and horrifically tragic as the one above, even if it isn’t photographed and seen by millions.

Aylan drowned in the arms of his father, who had been desperately trying to keep his head above water. The prelude to the disaster probably looked something like this photo of another Syrian refugee family.

It actually shows an arrival and not a departure. Still, especially for anyone with young children, the picture is a punch in the gut. It only takes a shred of empathy to instantly imagine how the father must feel. Overwhelmed and near the end of his rope. His daughter’s arms wrapped around his neck. His son’s face buried in his chest. Both looking to him for protection and provision he ultimately might not be able to give. It is no wonder this visceral photograph has also gone viral.

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Another newsflash: this is what war displacement looks like, both in the sea and on dry land. What you see in his face is the anguish felt right this very moment by the many millions of mothers and fathers driven from their homes and sources of livelihood throughout the countries shattered by weapons from the West: Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Palestine, Ukraine, and more.

It is a shame that the curiosity, empathy, and imagination of most are so stunted that they require such vivid imagery as this showing up in their news feeds to feel concern for the havoc wreaked by their governments’ policies.

And then they are stirred, not enough to actually learn a damn thing about it, but only enough to be manipulated into demanding— or at least countenancing — more of the very same kind of intervention that caused the tragedies in the first place.

Warmongers in government and the media are perversely but predictably trying to conscript Aylan’s corpse into their march to escalation. They are contending that Aylan died because the West has not intervened against Syria’s dictator Bashar al-Assad, and that it must do so now to spare other children the same fate.

Um, no, Aylan’s family were Kurdish refugees from Kobani who had to flee that city when it was besieged, not by Assad, but by Assad’s enemy: ISIS.

And ISIS is running rampant in that part of Syria only because the US-led West and its regional allies have given them cover by supporting and arming the jihadist-dominated uprising against Assad.

The West has been intervening in Syria heavily since at least 2012. Indeed, it is Western intervention that has exacerbated and prolonged the conflict, which has now claimed a quarter of a million lives.

But because much of the intervention has been covert and by proxy, it has received little media coverage and public attention. So the “blowback” that results from it, including Aylan’s death, can be conveniently blamed on alleged “non-intervention” and used to justify more overt and direct intervention.

In this way, governments have long exploited public obliviousness and gullibility to get their wars.

Moreover, if the hawks were to get their wish of seeing Assad finally overthrown and his forces dismantled, there would then be zero local resistance to ISIS, Syrian Al Qaeda, and the other jihadist groups completely overrunning Syria.

As bad as the refugee crisis is now, just imagine what it will be like as all of Syria’s many religious minorities desperately flee from these hyper-violent and hyper-sectarian Sunnis, armed to the teeth with Western weapons.

Far from preventing such tragedies as Aylan’s drowning, intervening further would only produce many more.

You are troubled by that picture you saw on Facebook. Good. It means your heart hasn’t been completely hardened by nationalistic and xenophobic indoctrination. But don’t let it make you susceptible to war party manipulation. And don’t just “raise awareness” of it by liking and sharing the tragedy and then forgetting about it in a month. To truly contribute to justice for Aylan, work to set things right.

And the first step to setting things right is understanding. Make it a project to learn about the role of foreign intervention in the Syrian Civil War that is creating so many of these refugees, and in the wars roiling the Middle East, North Africa, and South Asia in general. And once you’ve acquired understanding for yourself, work to spread it to others.

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An indispensable resource for this is Antiwar.com. And a few good starting points are these essays of my own:

Mass-Producing Huddled Masses
Refugees from the Footfall of the American Colossus

Flytrap to Breeding Ground
How America’s wars produced a terrorist infestation

Where Does ISIS Get Those Wonderful Toys?
From Uncle Sam, the Bruce Wayne of Jihad, and his Cronies

Clean Break to Dirty Wars
Shattering the Middle East for Israel’s Northern Front

Salafists Gaining Ground
Throughout the Middle East, thanks to US intervention

The US Government’s Not-So-Secret Support for al-Qaeda and ISIS
The Biggest State Sponsor of Terrorism of Them All

 

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Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:33 | 6523557 HedgeAccordingly
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... war does man increased GDP.. that is if US invovled.. sadly..

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Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:37 | 6523582 Four chan
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the photo was staged by the media, body moved to more photogenic pose.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:40 | 6523589 coinhead
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First thing we thought when we saw the picTure... "FAKE".

Just like teh bogus "Alison Parker/Adam Ward" shooting.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:42 | 6523611 TongueStun
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Preposterous.the Zionist jew moneychangers would not use their Zionist media minions in such a fashion.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:44 | 6523619 nope-1004
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My earlier comment.

 

 

 

Funny how other nations that are rich in resources are the only ones constantly destabilized.

Us foreign policy:

1)  Start a civil movement.  Destabilize governing regime by internal public demonstrations.

2)  Overthrow governing regime in the name of "terror" or "atrocities against humanity".

3)  Install puppet government more aligned with pro USA world banking dominance.

4)  Control local resources.  Pillage local gold.  Starve the population.

5)  Population is forced to leave the nation.  Millions of refugees flee.  US says it is "trying to rebuild for the good of humanity"

6)  Thousands of innocent military personnel leave the US to "fight".  What for?  Hmmmmm.....

7)  MIC reaps billions.  Arms dealers reap billions.  Trillions go missing from the Pentagon.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

And the story circulating that "ISIS is making millions a day from selling oil on the black market" is complete bullshit.  The largest, most controlled USD-resource in the world has a black market that the MIC can't control?

Lies, or gross incompetence.  Take your pick.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:48 | 6523634 strannick
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Excellent article. Thank you.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:54 | 6523665 kliguy38
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Don't confuse me with the facts

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:06 | 6523718 ZerOhead
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Like the fact that the drownings would immediately cease if Obama called Turkey and told them to allow the refugees to cross to Greece by land?

Those kind of facts?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:18 | 6523772 Paveway IV
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"...troubled by that picture you saw on Facebook. Good..."

It was designed to trouble you - it was staged. The boy did drown, but the MSM isn't going to let the narrative escape without a proper picture:

TEHRAN (FNA)- Photo journalists have moved the dead body of the Kobani child refugee to a better location for photos

F'king psychopaths...

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:21 | 6523786 chumbawamba
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Also overlooked are the American families who had to flee their foreclosed homes before the banks sent the sheriff to forcibly take them through millions of fraudulent foreclosures.  While they at least could take refuge in their own land, they were still refugees, with sometimes nowhere to go.

How do you look your son in his eyes and tell him that the bank took his house because its chief executive needed to snort more coke off his whore's ass?

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:38 | 6523853 greenskeeper carl
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something else that seems to be forgotten is that they are no longer "refugees" when they are trying to leave turkey to get to an EU welfare state. Once they get to a safe country, in this case turkey, and they still try to go to still another, richer country, they are then illegal immigrants, not desperate refugees fleeing a war zone. By the time they reach turkey they have already escaped the warzone. Putting your children at risk like that is pretty stupid, especially since they are doing so just becasue they want to reach a welfare hammock country like germany or france.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:45 | 6523880 Paveway IV
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Carl, look... these were Kurdish refugees in Turkey. What part of that don't you understand?

Turkey is trying to annihilate the Kurds, not set them up in comfy aid camps and give them free shit. They treat Kurds like dogs. Their home city - Kobane - was attacked by ISIS head-choppers that came from Turkey. Get the picture?

You would have done the same damn thing with your family if you were in that situation. 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:30 | 6524231 TongueStun
Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:12 | 6524389 philipat
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Would someone care to expalain precisely WHAT Assad has done to deserve this? He isn't a particularly savory ruler, just like in Iraq and Libya, but he hasn't actually DONE anything to deserve being invaded?

The refugee problem in Europe is entirely as a consequence of all the illegal wars that the US has pursued in The Middle East, although that view, of course, is never even mentioned in the fascist MSM.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:31 | 6524461 Manthong
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The first casualty of war is the truth

There is another altogether different story about this…

http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/story-told-by-father-of-drowned-toddler-aylan-kurdi-is-full-of-holes.html/

But what cannot be argued is that the death of a child is now a deceptive propaganda tool.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:50 | 6524541 Motasaurus
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They kicked all the new born babies out of their incubators and smashed their heads on the floor. I know, I saw it... from my penthouse suite in New York... 

Never let the death of a child (real or imaginary) go to waste. Nothing gets the war fervor pumping like killing kids. 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:01 | 6524583 Save_America1st
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it's already been proven that the kids body was found in the rocks and the media had somebody deliberately place his body in the surf in that position so they could get that photograph for "better" effect.

That's a fucking crime right there and those people should be sitting in a jail cell for a while for doing that.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:17 | 6524830 The Juggernaut
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The Military Industrial Complex/PetroDollar is a virus that must be stopped.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:47 | 6524982 TruxtonSpangler
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Why are there so many different angles to this photo op?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:29 | 6525140 Stainless Steel Rat
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I heard his troops took helpless little premature babies out of their incubators and threw them on the floor where they died!

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:47 | 6525191 philipat
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No, actually that was Planned Parenthood?

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 01:16 | 6525530 TruthHammer
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use the actual picture, not the crap one linked via breitbart, being passed around:

http://webcdn.aa.com.tr/webdocs/625x424xc/content_new/674/bodrum_batan_t...

 

also the brother, not manipulated:

http://www.dha.com.tr/fotogaleri/act/61249_70759_02092015094656_6.jpg

 

 

and the father, at the scene:

http://www.dha.com.tr/fotogaleri/act/61249_70759_02092015094656_11.jpg

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 03:13 | 6525634 newbie vampire
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"I heard his troops took helpless little premature babies out of their incubators and threw them on the floor where they died!"

Someone else heard that Assad's troops raped millions of women, got them pregnant and even waited out  the full 9 month term till delivery before they could take them out of the incubators to throw them on the floor.

This is the MSM selling to us what the puppet masters want us to feel so they can herd us like cannon fodder to the front.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 10:28 | 6526398 Kobe Beef
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6 million raped. Definitely 6 million.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 05:22 | 6525724 BeansMcGreens
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They kicked all the new born babies out of their incubators and smashed their heads on the floor. I know, I saw it... from my penthouse suite in New York... 

 

Thank goodness they didn't rip them from the mother's wombs, then harvest their body parts while still alive! And then sell them. Now that would be evil.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 10:27 | 6526393 Kobe Beef
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No, that would be perfectly OK. We're Pro-Evil. It's just a choice. You're not against choice are you? Child Sacrifice is a social construct anyway, you racist, infanticidaphobic bigot.

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:20 | 6524632 Paveway IV
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Pamela Geller gets way to many details wrong in some bizzare attempt to spin this as "ISIS PR". First of all, his last name isn't even "Kurdi" - that's the last name the Turkish government gave him becase he's a Kurd. He left Damascus with his family three years ago - he went to Alleppo and (thanks to the U.S. color coup attempt) left there for Kobani.

He came into Turkey last year and, I suppose, got 'free' rent in one of the UNHCR hell-holes if he was lucky. Chances are he couldn't, and went to Istanbul instead to find work. I would like to see Geller's proof that he (or any other Kurd refugee) gets free rent in Istanbul. It sounds like his Canadian sister-in-law was helping pay rent while Kurdi did construction to earn enough to flee Turkey.

Like many of the millions of other Syrian refugees, he probably wasn't even an 'official' refugee - if you don't stay in a UNHCR death-camp long enough to get your papers, you're not - by Turkish law - a real refugee and you can't apply for an exit visa. Result - work construction jobs long enough to pay a smuggler to take your family the hell out of Turkey illegally. Sounds like a decent guy.

The place his story is iffy is regarding the details of the capsizing and whether he was there or not. He may not have been - it would have been easier for his wife and kids to get into the EU if they said they had no husband/father. That's what happens when refugees have no legal status, can't get exit visas and have no other options. It's not like they waltz down to the local Post Office, fill out a few forms and get put on the next A-320 to a life of leisure and free shit in Germany (Sorry - no free teeth). 

Kurdi claims he wants to take his wife and children's bodies to Kobani and bury them. He actually may have no choice in the matter - if he's not in Turkey legally, they're going to send him back to Kobani anyway. 

Why Geller choses to paint this as ISIS propaganda for 'justification of EU immigration' is odd. It's ending up to be a lot more damning statement of the screwed up situation with refugees in Turkey and casts a light on the ultimate perpetrator of this humanitarian crisis of epic proportions: the U.S.A.'s long-standing plans to destroy the Middle East for their own (and Israel's) purposes. 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:22 | 6524647 old naughty
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Can we handle the truth?

a human tragedy!

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:18 | 6524836 new game
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simple truth: all this turmoil is the DIRECT result of mericas foriegn policy including; arms, foriegn money transfers, AND indirect(proxy)/direct warfare. now what, back to mericas got talent-fucking sad...

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 01:23 | 6525534 TruthHammer
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The Aunt in Canada was paying their rent, they werent in a UN camp, and he had a job with a small salary as you say.

They attempted to come to Canada under a specific refugee program and were rejected because the UN refused to classify them as refugees (nothing to do with canada).

The blog gets some things wrong, but lots of things right as well.  They were not in immediate danger, and whether he was on the boat or not, it was beyond stupid to put his family's lives in danger by paying $6000 to smugglers to take them in a rubber dingy.  They had shelter, a job, stability and safety.  Nothing great about it, but their lives werent in danger.  Which are the same reasons the UN refused to classify them in the way required for the Candian refugee claim they were attempting.

Those are the facts

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 02:17 | 6525586 Paveway IV
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"...They were not in immediate danger, and whether he was on the boat or not, it was beyond stupid to put his family's lives in danger by paying $6000 to smugglers to take them in a rubber dingy..."

Then by your definition, all the refugees that have ever taken overcrowded boats or packed trucks to leave some shitty little country where they're already a refugee is beyond stupid. I get your point, TruthHammer, but you're making this observation with perfect 20/20 hindsight from the comfort of your home and projecting some kind of fake contentment into a situation you know nothing about.

It's naive and flippant to assume they were not worried about the risks, or they would have put themselves in that kind of danger or scratched together (or borrowed) that kind of money just for to possibility of free shit and living on the dole in the EU. Him and his wife had two young sons and they had no official refugee status in Turkey. How is that 'safe'? Better to scrape by constantly looking over your shoulder waiting to be deported by the Turks back to Kobane or Aleppo? Would you have wanted that fate for your sons? The killing isn't nearly over yet there. 

You may be right - he may have been relatively safe and comforable in Turkey and been able to keep his job and live under the radar. Maybe he just wanted free shit and new teeth, and was willing to foolishly spend his life savings and potentially kill his wife and kids for that. But what are the chances instead that he was a normal, regular guy with a family that got fucked by circumstances beyond his control and was just trying to make the best of it. Maybe living in an Istanbul refugee slum wasn't the way he wanted his kids to grow up. 

You don't owe him anything, but what the fuck would YOU do in those circumstances? How long would you be willing to raise your family in an Istanbul refugee slum with the constant threat of deportation hanging over your head? Would the most important thing on earth be the illusion of safety and comfort, or getting the hell out of there?

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 04:37 | 6525709 Lebensphilosoph
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You don't owe him anything, but what the fuck would YOU do in those circumstances?

 

What's your point? Is this the tried and tested old lefty non sequitur where empathy is supposed to trump common sense? I would do the same thing, probably, because I am self-interested, just as I won't welcome millions of cultural aliens into Europe with open arms, because I am self-interested.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 03:21 | 6525642 newbie vampire
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"a human tragedy!"

It is a tragedy.   It is also a calculated gamble on the father's part to reach Utopia and endless benefits.

The question is........... how did he manage to escape drowning ?

Was it because he wasn't carrying any child ?

Was his own self preservation more important ?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:33 | 6524467 HowdyDoody
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He is the way of Zion's plans for lebensraum and profit.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 03:58 | 6525681 Tarzan
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He doesn't Bank with the right crowd!  Just as Gaddafi and Saddam before him....

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 08:04 | 6525916 Alfred
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Syria controls the Golon Heights where the head waters of Israel's supply lie.

Water is more precious than oil. Israel wants that water.

That's why Assad, and more specifically, Syria must be subdued.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 09:50 | 6526252 Paveway IV
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Do you have the internet by any chance? Israel STOLE the Golan Heights from Syria in 1967 and has occupied it ever since.

The UN guarded their spoils for them until the Syrian war. Then Israel built this to keep Syrians out of the Golan. 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:15 | 6524397 Save_America1st
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This situation of refugees or otherwise other illegal aliens being forced upon western countries has been completely brought about by the NWO globalists.  This is a massive invasion of all sovereign countries in order to overwhelm them and collapse them so that the new world governance can be forced on all of us next.

They're doing this on purpose and then calling us all racists if we don't want our countries overthrown by millions of foreigners who are coming into our countries and demanding free shit from us.  Many are criminals and many are terrorists who are flooding in along with the poor families and others.  It's an invasion plain and simple.

These aren't immigrants who want to be part of western culture, learn English, get educated, or abide by our laws.  They're being told they don't have to do any of that.  But Americans and Europeans are being told to take it up the ass and hand over their rights and freedoms and tax dollars to these people.

This is a planned overthrow plain and simple.  The U.S. and others have created, trained, and armed Al Quaida and ISIS to overthrow all those middle-eastern countries and cause wars, rape and murder people visciously, destroy everything in their path in order to create this situation.  This is how they will spawn race wars and revolutions in western countries so that the governments can claim they can "save" us if we just accept the new world order of governance which will essentially wipe us all out.

They're stealing our lives and the lives and rights and freedom of future generations right now and fundamentally transforming our world back into a fucking hell hole where no country will be safe and peaceful anywhere ever again. 

This is how they declare war against all of us world-wide without it being a traditional world war. 

And if we fight back when these illegals attack us we're the ones who are going to get arrested and the "authorities" will take everything we have and probably kill us instead of the illegal criminals.  This is how the evil will take over everything and rule the planet as outright tyrannical dictators.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 09:20 | 6526142 Ace Ventura
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Who the heck would downvote this?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:35 | 6524232 TongueStun
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And do you feel abused?

You've got to stem the evil tide.....

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:48 | 6524302 Paveway IV
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You want to feel abused? Want to see the evil tide?

Here's the 10-hour remix of Vitas

Makes you glad the world is ending in a couple of weeks... 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 05:00 | 6525719 newbie vampire
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"You would have done the same damn thing with your family if you were in that situation. "

Not sure that I would.  I would probably do this.  http://www.businessinsider.com/how-one-syrian-refugee-got-a-five-star-jo...

And if any of you guys want a delectable Swedish blonde, get a tan and do the same.  When you arrive in Stockholm, remember to say Allahu Akbar and you'll get the keys to the city.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:54 | 6524110 L Bean
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Expecting the Kurds to stay in Turkey would be like expecting a runaway slave to stay at Jefferson Davis' plantation on his way to freedom in the North.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:32 | 6524240 TongueStun
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^^^racist race baiting trash^^^^

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:45 | 6524293 L Bean
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^^^someone who didn't understand the comparison^^^^

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:08 | 6524276 nmewn
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Dolt.

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A better analogy is actually more factual, your sittin around minding your own business in KURDISTAN and the Romans show up and make you a slave, a vassal state (kinda like yankees in DC does to everyone) and then the Persians make you a slave, followed by the Ottomans, follwed by the fucking Turks. 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:42 | 6523873 0b1knob
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The whole drowned boy story is as phony as hell.   His family was living safely in Turkey for 3 years before they left for Europe because the father needed dental care.   Assad's police had pulled most of his teeth out as torture.

 

http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/07/story-begins-to-unravel-about-drowned-...

They weren't war refugees.  They were looking for a better dental plan than they got in Turkey.   They fled Syria before ISIS even existed because of the brutality of the Russian supported Assad regime.

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:54 | 6523892 Paveway IV
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ISIS first attacked in March of 2013. They left the Turkish border camps last year when Turkey destroyed them. Kurds were fleeing INTO Syrian Kobane from the Turkish side three years ago - nobody was leaving Kobane for 'Friendly Turkey' back then.  

And I don't understand why everyone is hating on this guy because he wanted teeth (which he had no chance of getting). If you read the whole story, there's no way on earth he could either afford them or get the money from his sister. That had NOTHING to do with getting the hell out of Turkey. Nobody gives you free dentures in the EU. He was trying to get his wife and kids there so they wouldn't have to stay in TURKEY, not because he was on a quest for imaginary free teeth.

[ed] "...Assad's police had pulled most of his teeth out as torture..."

Oh hell, how did I miss that? Jesus... that's so stupid, it's funny! 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:57 | 6524127 L Bean
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It's Rush Limbaugh-level propaganda. "the sandnigger wanted new teeth"

And anyway Assad is an opthamologist, not a dentist.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:01 | 6524140 Paveway IV
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That BASTARD ASSAD and his evil police pulled the guy's eyeballs out to torture him and he just wanted to get to EU for the free glass eyes...

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:57 | 6524759 conscious being
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Just read the link from Ob1knob. Nowhere in there does it say anything, anything about him getting his teeth pulled by 'that awful Assad regieme. You want to explain this Ob1knob or you just want to be known as the Zino-shitbag you appear to be?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:52 | 6525154 Paveway IV
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THE 5 AWKWARD QUESTIONS THEY WON’T ANSWER ABOUT THE DROWNED BOY, SYRIA AND OUR ‘MORAL DUTY’

2. Who invented the story about the torture and the teeth? [author cites some blog as the MSM's 'source' on this one]

Can't say I care for the author's haughty indignation - the U.K. and the SAS have been skulking around Syria since forever. Drop in the bucket compared to the U.S.-created genocide, but anyone involved at all is partially responsible for the 3.5 million+ Syrian refugees that have fled (and more to come).

There were none that I recall under Assad before 2012. Why weren't there hundreds of thousands AT THE VERY LEAST fleeing that 'brutal dictator'? In fact, there were refugees fleeing INTO Syria before 2012. Imagine that!

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:41 | 6524504 A Nanny Moose
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Tell me. would you allow an eye-doc to pull your teeth? Perhaps that was the problem in the first place?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:09 | 6524374 greenskeeper carl
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Im not hating on this guy. All I am saying is that MOST PEOPLE WHO TRY TO REACH WESTERN EUROPE ONCE THEY ARE IN TURKEY ARE SIMPLY HUNTING THE BEST WELFARE BENEFITS. Thats ALL Im saying. Ask anyone who lives in any of those countries. They don't want to assimilate, they don't care to work, they just want to reach the country that promises them the best life style that can be achieved without working. Watch some of the videos of these people arriving, read what the pople who aren't bleeding heart liberals say abot their mentality and attitudes. A bunch of "refugees" in eastern Europe DEMANDING free passage to germany or austria is absurd. Once there, they will start demnding that the locals cater to them, adapt to their ways and customs, and provie them with very generous benefits for their entire lives. Their reproduction rate far exceeds the natives of these countries, and they are absolutly insane for letting these people in. Their children and grandchildren will curse their names for allowing them to ruin their own country.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:14 | 6524814 Paveway IV
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It sounds like you would create the most dismal, prison-like inhumane detention camps on earth to make sure people that YOUR COUNTRY displaced are corralled, controlled and most important of all: don't get any free shit from you ever except the most bare necessities - and those only if they behave. 

There already IS a place like that: you would be abolutely thrilled with Israel and their handling of those fucking displaced Palestinian moochers.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:55 | 6523877 ZD1
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"Also overlooked are the American families who had to flee their foreclosed homes before the banks sent the sheriff to forcibly take them through millions of fraudulent foreclosures. How do you look your son in his eyes and tell him that the bank took his house because its chief executive needed to snort more coke off his whore's ass? "

 

 

Your son also needs to know about big government's role in the foreclosure crisis by politicians such as former Democrat Congressman Barney Frank.

The roots of the foreclosure crisis go back to the Carter administration. That was when government officials, egged on by left-wing activists, began accusing mortgage lenders of racism and "redlining" because urban blacks were being denied mortgages at a higher rate than suburban whites.

The pressure to make more loans to minorities (read: to borrowers with weak credit histories) became relentless. Congress passed the Community Reinvestment Act, empowering regulators to punish banks that failed to "meet the credit needs" of "low-income, minority, and distressed neighborhoods."

Lenders responded by loosening their underwriting standards and making increasingly shoddy loans. The two government-chartered mortgage finance firms, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, encouraged this "subprime" lending by authorizing ever more "flexible" criteria by which high-risk borrowers could be qualified for home loans, and then buying up the questionable mortgages that ensued.

Time and time again, Barney Frank insisted that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were in good shape. When the Bush administration proposed much tighter regulation of the two companies, Barney Frank was adamant that "these two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis." When the White House warned of "systemic risk for our financial system" unless the mortgage giants were curbed, Frank complained that the administration was more concerned about financial safety than about housing.

Once the housing bubble burst and the "systemic risk" was apparent to all, Barney Frank declared that it was: "The private sector got us into this mess."

 

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/0...

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/12/hey-barney-frank-the...

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/31/barney_frank_drops_a_bombshell_how_a_sho...

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:42 | 6524072 chunga
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I've got to disagree a little bit on what you're saying.

In the Real Estate hay day, back when they weren't making any more Real Estate, money started looking for people. To this day, some remain stubbornly reliant on an obtuse and incomplete interpretation of the "Community Reinvestment Act" as a convenient neon red-herring on which to affix blame. To suggest (over and over again) that any politician, regardless of spot or stripe, would give a fig, lift a finger, bat a lash, or make anything more affordable for anyone other than themselves is mere cacophony.

It's ALL about the money, the rest doesn't matter.

Organic growth is done. It's been replaced with money changing. It isn't possible to steal money from people who don't have money. The money changers sloution to this is to GIVE IT TO THEM, then steal it back later.

It is happening again right now with student loans and sub-prime autos.

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:14 | 6524335 ZD1
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"To suggest (over and over again) that any politician, regardless of spot or stripe, would give a fig, lift a finger, bat a lash, or make anything more affordable for anyone other than themselves is mere cacophony."


Politicians may not give a shit about making anything more affordable for anyone, but pandering to the masses that everyone should be able to buy a home, a car, or a college education buys them votes. 

As you pointed out that it is happening again with student loans and sub-prime auto loans under the current regime. You've got Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders out there promising everyone a "free" college education.

 

 

As originally enacted in 1977, the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) vaguely mandated regulators to consider whether an insured bank was serving the needs of the “whole” community. For 16 years, the act was invoked rather infrequently, but 1993 marked a decisive turn in its enforcement when a study concluded that, while there was no overt discrimination in banks’ allocation of mortgage funds, loan officers gave whites preferential treatment. The methodology of the study has since been questioned, but at the time it was highly influential with regulators and members of the incoming Clinton administration; in 1993, bank regulators initiated a major effort to reform the CRA regulations.

In 1995, the regulators created new rules that sought to establish objective criteria for determining whether a bank was meeting CRA standards. Examiners no longer had the discretion they once had. For banks, simply proving that they were looking for qualified buyers wasn’t enough. Banks now had to show that they had actually made a requisite number of loans to low- and moderate-income (LMI) borrowers. The new regulations also required the use of “innovative or flexible” lending practices to address credit needs of LMI borrowers and neighborhoods. Thus, a law that was originally intended to encourage banks to use safe and sound practices in lending now required them to be “innovative” and “flexible.” In other words, it called for the relaxation of lending standards, and it was the bank regulators who were expected to enforce these relaxed standards.

The effort to reduce mortgage lending standards was led by the Department of Housing and Urban Development through the 1994 National Homeownership Strategy, published at the request of President Clinton. Among other things, it called for “financing strategies, fueled by the creativity and resources of the private and public sectors, to help homeowners that lack cash to buy a home or to make the payments.” Once the standards were relaxed for low-income borrowers, it would seem impossible to deny these benefits to the prime market. Indeed, bank regulators, who were in charge of enforcing CRA standards, could hardly disapprove of similar loans made to better-qualified borrowers.

 

http://spectator.org/articles/42211/true-origins-financial-crisis

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:23 | 6524416 chunga
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Where I continue to disagree is the value of vote buying and pandering to the masses. What the masses think and how they vote is irrelevant to who gets elected. What they say is just an excuse for their actions and another way to divide. Fraud is non-partisan and knows no ideology.

FRANKLIN RAINES [D] – FNMA CEO (1999 – 2004) Raines accepted “early retirement” from his CEO position while the SEC pretended to investigate accounting irregularities. Fannie’s own OHFHEO also accused him of abetting widespread accounting errors, including the shifting of losses, so he and his fellow execs could “earn” large bonuses. The WSJ reported back in 2008 that Raines was one of several cronies that received below market rates for mortgages from Countrywide. Raines alone receive loans for over $3 million while CEO of FNMA. Raines’ compensation for his “work” at FNMA - $90 million.

RAINES GRADE – F

 

DANIEL MUDD [R] – FNMA CEO (2005 – 2008) Before becoming CEO of FNMA, Mudd worked at the Office of the Secretary of Defense, was an advisor to Asia-Pacific Economic Corp., “served” on the board of the Council of Foreign Relations, “consulted” at the World Bank, and held many positions at GE Capital including president and CEO. Mudd was dismissed as CEO of FNMA when FHFA became conservator in 2008. In 2011 Mudd and other GSE execs were charged by SEC with securities fraud. After his career at FNMA Mudd became CEO of a NYC hedge fund named “Fortress”. Fortress invested in purchasing tax liens on delinquent property taxes from local governments under many benign corporate names such as “Pleasant Valley Capital” and “Travis Farm Investments”. Cozy. Mudd’s compensation for his “work” at FNMA - $80 million.

MUDD GRADE – F

 

NEEL KASHKARI [R] – FNMA CEO (Tenure is murky) Kashkari was a former investment banker for Goldman Sachs, was tapped by Hank “The Shank” Paulson to lend his skills over at TARP HQ, and now rather ironically, continues God’s work as a Managing Director at PIMCO. Kashkari’s compensation for his “work” at FNMA is also murky; I’ll just assume it was too much.

KASHKARI GRADE - F

HERB ALLISON [D] – FNMA CEO (2008 – 2009) The esteemed Mr. Allison was quickly whisked off to oversee the wildly successful TARP program. I didn’t find much on his compensation during his brief stint as FNMA CEO. Allison served in various positions at Merrill Lynch and became a member of the board in 1997. He was a director of the NYSE from 2003 – 2005.

ALLISON GRADE – F

MICHAEL WILLIAMS [?] – FNMA CEO (2009 – Jan 1, 2012) Mr. Williams is a 20 year veteran at FNMA. While “serving” as FNMA CEO, Williams managed to scrape by on less than $6 million in 2011 alone. This could and should be considered a hardship, given the complexities involved in purloining ~ $60 billion of Fed bailout money.

WILLIAMS GRADE – F

FANNIE’S MAJOR DANCE PARTNER, FREDDIE MAC, HAS ALSO PERFORMED VERY POORLY.

Charles “Ed” Haldeman has announced his retirement plans but intends to be a good sport and stay on with insolvent FHLMC until another crony can be found to fill his wing-tips.

That might take a while. “Serving” as CEO of the ultimate backstops for the lion’s share of the MBS Ponzi is very stressful.

We’ll have to accept former Freddie exec David Kellermann’s testimony posthumously. Mr. Kellermann was found hanging by the neck in the basement of his posh Vienna, VA home in the affluent suburb of Washington. D.C. way back in April of 2009. It is presumed he had no help and local police have stated there was no evidence of foul play.

 

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:39 | 6524664 ZD1
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Fraud is non-partisan and knows no ideology, but politicians would not pander to the masses if buying votes didn't matter as to who gets elected.

 

 

Franklin Raines, an African-American Democrat, was appointed to head Fannie Mae in order to carry out the facade of the Democrat Party's ideology of socialist wealth distribution.

Franklin Raines became Fannie Mae's first African-American Vice Chairman in 1991. He left that position in 1996 in order to join the Clinton Administration as the Director of the U.S. Office of Management and Budget, where he served until 1998.  In 1999, Bill Clinton appointed Franklin Raines as Fannie Mae's CEO.

Under Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae began to demand that the lending institutions that it dealt with prove that they were not redlining. This meant that the lending institutions would have to fulfill a quota of minority mortgage lending. This in turn meant that the lending agencies would have to lower their standards in terms of such things as down payments and the required incomes. These subprime borrowers would be charged a higher interest rate. Having put the lending agencies into the position of granting subprime mortgages Fannie Mae then had to accept lower standards in the mortgages it purchased.

That set the ball rolling. If a bank granted a mortgage to a borrower that was not likely to successfully pay off the mortgage then all the bank had to do was to sell such mortgages to Fannie Mae. The banks typically earned a loan origination fee when the mortgage was granted. The lending agencies could then make substantial profits dealing in subprime mortgages.

Because Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac made a market for subprime mortgages the lenders did not have to worry about of the soundness of the mortgage contract they wrote. Thus the lenders could write the mortgages as adjustable interest rate mortgages knowing full well that an upturn in the interest rates could easily throw the borrower into insolvency.

Between 1994 and 2004, Fannie executives improperly reported $10.6 billion of earnings.  Franklin Raines, Clinton's appointed CEO, received over $90 million. Jamie Gorelick — a top Clinton Administration lawyer whom he appointed in 1997 to be Fannie Mae vice chairman despite having no formal financial experience – received over $26 million.

On December 21, 2004, Raines accepted what he called "early retirement” from his position as CEO while U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission investigators continued to investigate alleged accounting irregularities. He was accused by The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO), the regulating body of Fannie Mae, of abetting widespread accounting errors, which included the shifting of losses so senior executives, such as himself, could earn large bonuses.

 

It's been reported that Franklin Raines has been an advisor to the Obama Administration.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:40 | 6524703 chunga
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ok you win, red jello good blue jello bad

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:43 | 6524941 new game
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then what happened is irresponsible people got loans that had no fucking clue about owning a home and no extra disposable income for upkeep. not to mention they went out and put furniture, ect. on credit cards to keep up with the carters. many a new car showed up in the driveway. i met these sketchy peoples whilst selling new homes for 20 years. it was a joke, but they got the loan, ha...

above:great comments as to the root causes.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 03:44 | 6525670 newbie vampire
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"It is happening again right now with student loans and sub-prime autos."

The primary reason is....................to have EVERYONE IN DEBT.   WHY ?

Debt slaves are the people who exist, purely to fund the lifestyles of the bankster class and the 1%.

Without us, who else is there to work and serve them ?

I don't include the illegals who would work for half the money you're earning.

In return, this privileged class contribute funds to the re-election war chest of our patriotic politicians who then vote the funding for the MIC to make the world, a safer place for us debt slaves.

Look how well we're doing........................ Arab Springs, Color revolutions, Regime changes etc etc

Soon as we knock off Putin, then we'll deal with them damn ChiComs.




Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:01 | 6524142 HopefulCynical
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Barney Frank ranks right up there with the scummiest of the scumbags.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:41 | 6524956 new game
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plus 500+ moar scum fuck reps and senators. it is hopeless, really, ha. ask me if i give a fuck about politics?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:56 | 6523895 giovanni_f
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There was a boy the same age who died recently after his place was shelled by Ukrainians - but he was a sub-human from Donbass. Therefore no "no-more" hysteria in the western "press".

http://fortruss.blogspot.de/2015/09/two-dead-boys-as-alike-as-twins-one....

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:00 | 6523928 Oquities
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1500 US children drown in pools every year.  where is the outrage and effort to stop this senseless loss of life.  somebody has to do something!  now!

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:25 | 6524004 Oquities
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appeal to the UN, form a Gofundme, get the Pope on it, but for God's sake, get all those pictures of swimming pool drownings out of the news - i can't take it anymore.  (that's for the one who down-stroked me)

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:27 | 6524009 I-am-not-one-of-them
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dumbass

 

one is called "accident",

 

the other is called "premeditated murder"  (Imperialism)

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:37 | 6524048 Oquities
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so it's not the deaths themselves (1500 vs. 1), but the pathos evoked for your predictable response that matters?

 

simple-minded, easily manipulated, down-stroking bum-looker, you!

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:07 | 6524137 I-am-not-one-of-them
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millions are dead because of US Imperialism in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Sudan, Afghanistan, Yemen, etc

millions become refugees from their own land, many die in transit, in camps,  becuase of said US Imperialism

 

it ain't 1500 vs 1, it's millions of dead, millions suffering because of US Imperialism

 

accidents are worldwide and happen all the time, has NOTHING to do with the murdered and the refugees caused by US Imperialism 

 

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:26 | 6524210 Four chan
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every one of those people fleeing are cowards who if they stayed where they came from and acted civilly to enact change with the same level of effort as its taken them to run they would be in fine shape right now and not destroying the civilized world as their cowardice has destroyed their own. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 03:34 | 6525654 Lurk Skywatcher
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By "enact change" do you mean demolish their entire known existence for one dictated by outside interests entirely for the interests of those outside interests?

Thats interesting.

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 04:04 | 6525687 newbie vampire
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"accidents are worldwide and happen all the time, has NOTHING to do with the murdered and the refugees caused by US Imperialism "

True, accidents happen all the time.  But every death whether by accident or pre-meditated is still a tragedy.

What past and present US administrations have done in the name of the American people does NOT represent the true feelings of the American people.  It is the politicians who are responsible for the murders, rapes, hunger, displacement, misery etc etc

If any citizen bears even the smallest degree of responsibility for what is happening right NOW, it is those who voted for the current resident in the White House.

Guys, start a petition to express your disagreement with what is happening, contact your Congressman, Senator, even the guy in the WH.

Err.... make an effort not to contact them when they're snotting coke or groping an intern.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:07 | 6525251 logicalman
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That's just carelessness & stupidity - hard to fix.

I think this is more about malevolence.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 03:49 | 6525675 newbie vampire
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"There was a boy the same age who died recently after his place was shelled by Ukrainians - but he was a sub-human from Donbass."

Now if that sub-human dumbass had taken a train ride to Germany or Sweden...................... Would they take him in as a refugee ?

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:43 | 6524074 logicalman
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How many kids did the banksters' policies starve to death today?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:48 | 6524093 Dark Space
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If you're a decent father you use the opportunity to highlight what happens when you a) don't bother reading the fine print b) don't live up to your agreements when borrowing debt and c) ignore basic financial principles such as not borrowing more than you can afford to pay off.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:03 | 6525237 logicalman
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Or, as I've brought up my kids....

If you can't afford it, do without it.

They are doing OK, so far.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 10:51 | 6526499 Kobe Beef
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a) b) and c) be raycist an sheeit, yo.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:39 | 6524264 Rusty Shorts
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European Refugee Crisis: Camps Were Set Up Before The Conflict Even Began

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0RHFWq8nRQ

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:04 | 6525245 logicalman
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This is not a new problem.

You have to ask yourself what is going on behind the curtains when the curtains are as thick and heavy as this.

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 04:20 | 6525703 newbie vampire
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"You have to ask yourself what is going on behind the curtains when the curtains are as thick and heavy as this."

I think what is behind the curtains is a nice surprise for us debt slaves.  We're gonna wake up to a new morning where illegal migrants and "destitute" refugees will overwhelm us.  

Either they will work for half our pay or they will expect us to provide for them just as we serve the banksters, the 1% and the trust fund babies.

And we can thank the politically correct uber progressive liberals and their Hollywood friends for upholding the rights of everyone else but their own citizens.

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:49 | 6523639 strannick
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Excellent article. Thank you.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:49 | 6523640 strannick
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Excellent article. Thank you.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:51 | 6523652 Seasmoke
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Lies

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:25 | 6524006 Sudden Debt
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All the pictures where put into a scene.

1. You can float in the sea and beach when your head is toward the sea.

2. The pictures where taking by 2 turkish police officers "who happened to be there"

3. The picture was taken 400 meters from a holliday resort and there's actually pictures available where those police men are positioning the kid for a better foto.

 

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:50 | 6524100 Tarshatha
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"Preposterous.the Zionist jew moneychangers would not use their Zionist media minions in such a fashion."

 

Some good news not carried by the zioist media,

"Benjamin Netanyahu to be arrested for war crimes when he arrives in London" Petition

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105446

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:43 | 6523612 Secret Treaties
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So Wrong for So Long

Why neoconservatives are never right.

"No, the real problem is that the neoconservative worldview — one that still informs the thinking of many of the groups and individuals who are most vocal in opposing the Iran deal — is fundamentally flawed. Getting Iraq wrong wasn’t just an unfortunate miscalculation, it happened because their theories of world politics were dubious and their understanding of how the world works was goofy. When your strategic software is riddled with bugs, you should expect a lot of error messages."

 http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/08/21/neoconservatives-so-wrong-for-so-lon...

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:45 | 6523629 Took Red Pill
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I just watched the dvd of "Good Kill" with Ethan Hawke about how drones are used to kill innocent people. Great film. I highly recommend it. 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:55 | 6523677 NoPension
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Nobody is innocent.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:04 | 6523712 Mine Is Bigger
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??? So, it is OK to kill you???

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:30 | 6524229 CheapBastard
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Is that movie for free? if not, don't bother me.

 

Because I'm a ...

 

Cheap Bastard

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:43 | 6534099 Took Red Pill
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its free on pirates bay

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:42 | 6523614 Pinto Currency
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Syrian Refugees throwing stones at Hungrians who gave them asylum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrSGZswoeL8

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:28 | 6524448 caconhma
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Hungarians who gave them asylum got what they deserve. It is a war and either you surrender or you  fight. Instead of prostituting their Fatherland to Zionist Banking Mafia and surrender to invading thugs, Hungarians had to fight and kill invaders. 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:54 | 6524710 Paveway IV
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The Refugees (not all Syrians) were waiting for trains to go to Western European countries - Germany and Austria, I think. A lot of them had paid for tickets and were going legally (as refugees). The Hungarians were told to take ALL of the refugees to UN death camps in Hungary, where they will been stuck for months or years waiting to go anywhere.

Thousands of refugees had bought (or been given) train tickets to Western Europe for months and months now. This is hardly the first group of refugees TRANSITING Hungary for Germany or wherever. Up until now, they all were able to get on the trains and go somewhere else - they never had to stay in Hungary and didn't want to. That's what these refugees thought was happening - a lot of them had people waiting for them at the train stations in Germany.

This particular group was unlucky enough to be the one that had the policy changed on them right when they got to the train station to leave Hungary. Whether they had train tickets or sponsors or not, ALL of them were unexpectedly told just before they boarded their trains that they would not be allowed to go to Germany - that they were going to some shithole Hungarian UN internment camp for 'a while'. It didn't matter if they were travelling legally with tickets they paid for - they were all just treated like cattle and shuffled off to the Hungarian camps. It's a pretty cruel trick to play on vulnerable people by any stretch of the imagination, and they were all suddenly treated like ILLEGAL immigrants. From what I understand of the EU laws, they become 'legal' asylum-seeking refugees at the first EU country they come to, so they were all 'legal' and could apply for assylum wherever they wanted.

They only expected to go to Germany or wherever in the West because everyone else had before them without incident for months and months before this. They're not throwing rocks at the train because they think anyone owes them anything. They're pissed that THEY were singled out without any warning to set an example for all the other refugees flooding into Hungary: don't come here or you're going to a Hungarian detention camp.

Whether the UN, EU or Hungary choose to handle refugees like this is not the question - it's their call. It's just that they blindsided a couple thousand people by making an example out of them without any warning. Rounding them up at the train station and bussing them off to camps is just fucking cruel.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 10:57 | 6526533 Kobe Beef
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jumping the fence and invading someone else's country is just fucking rude.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:44 | 6524077 generaldisarray
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there is no precedent for that kind of thing.. newspapers are where facts come from, so it must have happened.  Assad obviously 100% responsible and a total child murdering douchebag.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Girl_In_Damascus

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9293620/BBC-News-uses-...

yeah 'accidentally' used the wrong photos!  can't make this shit up!

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:25 | 6524423 A Nanny Moose
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Lame Stream Media is nothing more than the boy who cried wolf.

It is a cold day in hell before I believe anything reported by lamestream government propaganda outlets including, but not limited to, MSNBS, I'll Jizzinyourear, RT, CNN, KPFK, PRI, FAUX, and The Globull Warming Channel.

They are all fucking liars. Anyone who pays for cable TV is a sucker.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 15:18 | 6527927 frenzic
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Coinhead = fonestar

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:25 | 6523811 TheReplacement
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That doesn't make the kid any less dead.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 00:16 | 6525436 giovanni_f
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As does your silly comment that misses the topic completely.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:03 | 6524146 mpnut
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Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand..

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:37 | 6524486 Buck Johnson
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I agree, this is getting crazy.  You know what is happening once the others see half a million make it the others will be moving also. 

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:39 | 6524494 RevIdahoSpud3
Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:19 | 6523782 drendebe10
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No worries, the fudgepacker earned a Nobel Peace Prize...

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:41 | 6523867 junction
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Meanwhile, the media is not covering a major story: Who authorized the Delta Force to turn over ISIS criminal Umm Sayyaf to Iraq instead of bring her to the United States to stand trial for hostage taking and aiding and abetting in the rape of hostage Kayla Mueller?  Since Mueller died as a result of Umm's actions, she faced the death penalty in the United States.  Almost certainly, that decision not to try Umm was made by Obama, reason enough for him to be impeached.  Umm had more to tell about al-Baghdadi but Obama wanted her and her story about the CIA funded ISIS degenerates out of the spotlight.   

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"Umm Sayyaf confirmed that al-Baghdadi had “owned” Kayla during Umm Sayyaf’s lengthy American interrogation in Iraq, the Muellers said they were told by American officials.  Umm Sayyaf has been turned over to the Iraqi Kurds for trial.

The Muellers have been told she can be expected to serve a long prison sentence, said a family spokeswoman, Emily Lenzner."

http://nypost.com/2015/08/14/isis-leader-raped-american-hostage-kayla-mu...

WASHINGTON — American hostage Kayla Mueller was repeatedly forced to have sex with Abu Bakr Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State group, US intelligence officials told her family in June.

“They told us that he married her, and we all understand what that means,” Carl Mueller, Kayla’s father, told The Associated Press on Friday, which would have been his daughter’s 27th birthday. Her death was reported in February.

The news is but the latest in a litany of horrors perpetrated by the Islamic State group, which has beheaded, burned and crucified male captives while passing around women as sex slaves.

Mueller was held for a time by Islamic State financier Abu Sayyaf and his wife, known as Umm Sayyaf. Al-Baghdadi took Mueller as a “wife,” repeatedly raping her when he visited, according to a Yazidi teenager who was held with Mueller and escaped in October 2014.

The 14-year-old made her way to Iraqi Kurdistan, where she talked to US commandos in November 2014. Intelligence agencies corroborated her account and American officials passed it on to her parents in June.

Umm Sayyaf confirmed that al-Baghdadi had “owned” Kayla during Umm Sayyaf’s lengthy American interrogation in Iraq, the Muellers said they were told by American officials.

A U.S. official confirmed their account, first reported by London’s Independent newspaper. The official was not authorized to be quoted by name and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Abu Sayyaf was killed in a Delta Force raid of his Syrian compound in June, which resulted in a treasure trove of intelligence about the Islamic State group. Umm Sayyaf has been turned over to the Iraqi Kurds for trial.

The Muellers have been told she can be expected to serve a long prison sentence, said a family spokeswoman, Emily Lenzner.

Mueller was held with three other women, all Yazidis, the Muellers were told. All were sexually abused. When al-Baghdadi visited, he would take Mueller to his room, the witness told American officials. She would tell her fellow captives — sometimes tearfully — what had happened.

“Kayla tried to protect these young girls,” her mother said. “She was like a mother figure to them.”

When the teenaged Yazidi girl escaped with her sister, she asked Mueller to accompany her, the parents were told, but Kayla refused, worrying that her obvious Western appearance would lead to their capture.

By the time the Yadizi escapee reported the situation to Delta Force commandos in Iraq, Kayla had been moved, her parents were told.

US intelligence officials found information on Sayyaf’s computer indicating that Mueller, who spoke some Arabic, had been searching for information about fertility to help Umm Sayyaf, who was trying to get pregnant, according to two US officials who refused to be quoted because the information is classified.

Mueller, from Prescott, Arizona, was taken hostage with her boyfriend, Omar Alkhani, in August 2013 after leaving a Doctors Without Borders hospital in Aleppo, Syria, where he had been hired to fix the Internet service for the hospital.

Mueller had begged him to let her tag along because she wanted to do relief work in the war-ravaged country.

Alkhani was released after two months, having been beaten.

The Islamic State group claimed Mueller was killed in a Jordanian air strike near Raqqah, the group’s self-declared capital in Syria. US officials confirmed the death but not the circumstances.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:48 | 6523893 pods
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Whenever the rape line comes out I really watch what is going on.

Rape, for westerners seems to be a big trigger point to stop thinking and start feeling.

Remember Saddam's "rape rooms?"

The propaganda arm of the USA loves these kinds of stories.

At this point I would not be surprised if this woman didn't even exist.

pods

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:58 | 6523923 Peak Finance
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Yea, and remember that raping is "BAD" when done by ISIS or any bad guys over in Muslimland, BUT, it's  A-OK in Roterdam! Or sweeden! Or Germany!

etc ec etc

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:32 | 6524033 I-am-not-one-of-them
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or in Okinawa near a US base gangraping a 12 year old Japanese girl

 

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 00:54 | 6525502 Pliskin
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..or at some Tory boys rape party in knightsbridge.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:27 | 6524440 A Nanny Moose
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Voting, Rape, War on Wymenz, "It's for this Children",and "I Support The Troops" is code for, "I cannot think for myself."

Feel free to add your own bumper sticker slogan.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:05 | 6523942 TheFutureReset
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Why do you believe any of that propaganda? If this is true, she's surrounded by CIA operatives. There are equally heinous things happening in the prison industrial complex.  

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:15 | 6524173 The Indelicate ...
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consider carefully the stories you choose to regurgitate.

Almost all of the above is absolute horseshit.

As you know.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:39 | 6524496 Thomasbarone
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Google pay 85$ per hour my last pay check was $8500 working 100 hours a week online. My younger brother friend has been averaging 12k for months now and he works about 22 hours a we­ek. I cant believe how easy it was once I tried it out. This is what I do     
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Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:34 | 6524921 Insanity Wolf
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'my last pay check was $8500 working 100 hours a week online'

I wouldn't let al-Baghdadi ass-rape you online, you filthy whore.

'My younger brother friend has been averaging 12k for months now and he works about 22 hours a we­ek.'

I'm impressed. That's even more donkeys than your mom can service in a month.

'I cant believe how easy it was once I tried it out. This is what I do'

You mean you tried the donkeys, too? Do you have a vid I can download on my Android app? Hey.... what the...

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:33 | 6523558 Sanity Bear
Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:38 | 6523578 divingengineer
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Why don't all you wretched bastards let that poor kid rest in peace. 

A pox on all of you. 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:41 | 6523607 coinhead
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anyone still believing teh corporate media needs to be strung up.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:59 | 6523683 divingengineer
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The kid is dead, laying face down in the water like trash that washed up on the beach. Whatever the cause, the loss of a child's life is a tragedy. To sit around spinning yarns about yet another "conspiracy" by the Jooooz, Illuminati, MIC, MSM, Stinky Liberals, etc, etc, etc...ad nauseum, is not only tacky, but very telling. 

This site has been over-run by moonbats, anti-semites and conspiracy nuts for the last couple years, but only now do I see how pathetic you little scamps really are. 

NEWS FLASH****

NOT EVERYTHING IS A CONSPIRACY!!!

Why is it so hard to believe that desperate people do desperate, sometimes poorly thought out, things?

Stay in Syria, get your nuts cut off you ISIS, try to escape and your kids may drown, it's a sh*tty, no win scenario, but the commenters here seem to be beside themselves that the asylum seekers may live to collect welfare benefits in Germany. The other competing conspiracy here being that the muslims are taking over europe.  At only 6% of the Europeon population, they must be bad mother f*ckers to run the whole joint. 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 15:59 | 6523698 coinhead
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"NOT EVERYTHING IS A CONSPIRACY!!!"

No, but if you saw it on television it is most likely a conspiracy.....

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 11:13 | 6526633 Kobe Beef
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Absolutely everything you've ever seen on TV was "conspiracied" by a small group of people in a darkened room. Sometimes it's just a writer, director, presenter, and producer..

but for big stories, you get the ghost of Frank Wisner.

The naivete of the public is what astounds me. Do they think stuff gets on the screen by magic?

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:14 | 6523761 Sanity Bear
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What part of "staged photo" don't you get?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:31 | 6523814 divingengineer
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Are you saying the kid is not dead?

Make it a thousand downvotes, see if I give a toss, you kids need to get back on your meds. 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:32 | 6523837 Sanity Bear
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Kids die all the time all over the globe... what does not happen all the time all over the globe is moving the corpse around to different places and prettying it up so that makes for nice propaganda photographs.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:35 | 6523843 divingengineer
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You're right, he looks like a million bucks. 

Must be those "Zionists". 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:05 | 6523943 sprintjump
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divingengineer, must be. They even admit it... go to the end of the video, if you can't make it all the way through.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c4Rvz5stHE

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:36 | 6523847 Bay of Pigs
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I don't know if it was real and neither do you. It certainly is possible.

What is clear is that you missed the entire point of the post. ISIS is CIA/Mossad, and not a "conspiracy" you blockhead.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:44 | 6523878 divingengineer
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Always back to the Jews.

It's incredible. 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:47 | 6524089 logicalman
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Incredible maybe, but often true.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:59 | 6523924 Zymurguy
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If ISIS were a real, organic, growing threat... we'd have crushed it by now.  It's not always a person or country's actions that speak so loudly... it's their inaction.

ISIS has conveniently "acquired" tremendous amounts of military hardware, our guvment takes up sides resulting in providing them with more power, our guvment runs all sorts of PR cover for them and then there's the terribly bizzare issue over their name.  It's like someone pronouncing your child's name wrong... you say "this is my son, his name is Dwayne" and the person you are speaking to says "Wayne? Hey, Wayne how ya doing?"

The way the prez continually uses a different name for them leads me to believe it's his baby and he named them.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:54 | 6524082 I-am-not-one-of-them
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whenever the US loses some hardware in real action, they usually destroy it pronto, then double tap to murder a few dozen more for good measure, but in Syria, no attempt to destroy, only excuses why the mercenaries keep getting supplied by error (planned error)

(convoys of trucks supplying ISIS regularily cross in from Turkey, and not a whisper)  

it's so obvious what the US, NATO, US alligned ME are doing to the non alligned ME and North Africa, yet the masses still beleive the theatre cover

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:42 | 6523848 August
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>>>...the commenters here seem to be beside themselves that the asylum seekers may live to collect welfare benefits in Germany. The other competing conspiracy here being that the muslims are taking over europe.

I have a good friend, a medical doctor from Baghdad, who left Iraq twenty years ago.  He tell's me that the Europeans are utter fools to allow mass migration from the Middle East. "The refugees should all go to the rich Arab countries, or to Turkey."

If an Arab Muslim can see and speak the truth of the matter, why, exactly, can't the post-Christian West?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:00 | 6523929 Zymurguy
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It's a Cloward/Piven strategy with human lives.  The ends always justify the means to this psychopathic statits animals.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 17:43 | 6524069 ForTheWorld
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...because it's the Post-Christian West. You can't say a bad word against Muslims, otherwise you're a racist (even though we all know Islam is not a race), but you can call a Christian in ignorant fuck and no one bats an eyelid.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:23 | 6524858 conscious being
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Muslims? Can't say a bad word about Muslims? Sorry. Wrong answer. You forget [or maybe you remember?] who rules you. Its Jews you can not say a bad word about. Congadulations for playing like the cattle you are supposed to be.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:55 | 6524996 ForTheWorld
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You clearly don't live in Australia. Congratulations to you for proving just how ensconsed in your own world you are with your assumptions on what I may or may not be remembering, and that I MUST be cattle if I don't mention Jews.

The Jewish population flies far below the radar here (unless there's a news "story" about how they're putting armed guards out the front of Jewish schools), but the Muslim population have no problem in breaking stuff, and getting away withit, if they want to. There were "demonstrations" in Sydney a while ago, and stuff got broken by these "demonstrators". Calling them out on it made people bigots and racists.

Recent Reclaim Australia rallies, in which nothing got broken, were dubbed as anti-Muslim by the MSM, and those attending the rallies were dubbed as racists and bigots by all and sundry. Muslims are the sacred cow in Australia. Aboriginies come 2nd.

There is a television station run by the Australian Government called SBS, and they produce a TV show called "Go Back to Where You Came From", where "racists" and "bigots" (mainly White Australians) are shown just how absolutely terrible it is in the Middle East, and how all those Muslims are persecuted, and then they're shipped over there to see how bad it is. The Government actively pushes White Guilt here, especially towards the Muslim population.

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:47 | 6525190 Paveway IV
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Um... then why isn't Australia screaming bloody hell at the U.S. for creating tens of millions of muslim refugees? How may muslim refugees did Australia have before all the U.S. clownfuckery in the Middle East? No reason to stop at the Arab Spring - I think the first great exodus started around 1948 with the Palestinians while the U.S. kept silent. 

How many muslims would have been in Australia today if ZATO hadn't shown up to herd people out of their ancestral homes in the Middle East? Like 150?

You got nobody but ZATO to thank for your 'new' residents.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:52 | 6525371 ForTheWorld
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Probably the same reason that US Citizens aren't screaming bloody hell at the US for the influx of African and Middle Eastern immigrants/refugees - all eyes have turned blind, all ears have fallen deaf, and the Social Justice Warrior in everyone wants it.

That and Australia is the ultimate multicultural proving ground. The Australian Government has publicly stated throughout the years that they "want" "diversity" and "multiculturalism", and Labor and Greens voters (now the majority) love it. So for the voting majority of Australians, they love this shit.

As for how many Muslims would be here, they've been coming here since at least the 1890s (there's a Mosque here that dates back to that decade), and well, if you can get your foot in the door, the Australian Government will give you as much free shit as you can handle if you're a refugee. You've just got to get your foot in the door first. So, it's safe to say that there'd be more than 150.

Does that answer your (presumably rhetorical) questions?

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 01:54 | 6525571 Paveway IV
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That's surprising to me, but probably just because of my own ignorance.

Years ago I tried to get a work permit or whatever they're called for Australia - I fancied an extended vacation there of sorts (temporary residency for a year or so) from the U.S. Long story short - it was such a bureaucratic pain in the ass that I eventually gave up. I figured it was just as hard for anyone else to immigrate there. Maybe it's different if you're seeking asylum and looking for permanent residency without worrying about a work permit.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 03:50 | 6525677 August
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>>>Maybe it's different if you're seeking asylum and looking for permanent residency without worrying about a work permit.

It shouldn't be, but it is.

I see no problem with a wealthy country taking masses of minimally scrutinzed refugees, as long as it is clear that their stay in only "for the duration."   But if a refugee wants a permanent new home, they should run the same guantlet as non-refugee migrants;  as it is, many refugees simply develop a plausible story, and some documentation, in regard to their "justified fears of persecution" and they will be de facto permanent residents in the usual soft-headed nations (e.g. Britain and Sweden).

I'm not a very "anti-gay" person, but it bugs me that the USA has admitted assorted homosexual Africans, simply on the basis that they felt fearful or harassed in their homeland.  Personally, I think the "homosexual African" category doesn't really need to be placed at the front of the line for US immigration; they're not too likely to reproduce, though, so there's that....

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 05:53 | 6525741 ForTheWorld
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Australia now has its own version of the Stasi called Australian Border Force. They had planned an operation in Melbourne to literally ask people for their papers, but called it off because a large number of people called them out on it. For some reason, that was just too much, but simply opening the gates to all with a sob story isn't.

It IS a pain in the rear to get here if you attempt to fill out all the forms correctly and wait your turn in line, and it is different if you're seeking asylum - mode of transport makes a big difference. You are better to just come in and overstay your visa. I've met quite a few people in Sydney, mainly US and UK citizens, who overstayed their visa, some by years.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 16:38 | 6523855 rightwingterrorist
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A single death is a traged, a million deaths is a statistic.

 

Paraphrased from Uncle Joe Stalin.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:49 | 6524307 ThatGuyFox
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Have you ever considered ZH has not so much been "over-run by moonbats, anti-semites and conspiracy nuts for the last couple years",  but that the result you see stems from shifting views in light of and not despite of the available data?

With the explosion in available data that has resulted from the global proliferation of internet access as well as alternatives to the MSM and a shifting cultural perspective resulting from a lack of any palpable economic recovery, the "ever-war" and several contiguous US administrations of war-hawk corportists, I put forward that your perceived shift in political leanings amongst ZHers and the resulting comments are not an over-run but a result  of push back from all the bullshit heaped upon our heads by the overlords.

Many are tired of the bullshit, see it as the dead end it is and are beginning to discuss it.

When words turn into projectiles we will have seen this cycle in its entirety

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:28 | 6524341 ImGumbydmmt
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6% is plenty to eff things up for any society.

3% (III%) fought the American Revolution

3% is the approximate number of U.S.  Jewish Households and yet the majority of the Federal Reserve Chairmen(woman) are Jewish, and run Hollywood, and a majority of the of the Bankers

13% is the approximate population of afro americans and less than 10% is the LGBT society and both seems to be having quite a HUGE impact on media issues.

So yes 6% is enough to upset the apple cart in any society.

If 6% of my neighbors decided it was ok to drink beer on Labor Day at the local preschool playground and piss all over the grounds and break up the kiddie picnic tables. (true story)....

Well that would pretty much eff up the whole preschool for the rest of our families, right?

and WTF can I do about it? if the police won't come, do I show up and complaint to the partying drunks?

Great, so now they know where I live.

So yes 6% can really eff up a society.

....until it won't be enforced that the rest of us can declare "open season" on them as they have on us.

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 11:30 | 6526712 Kobe Beef
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Diversity + Proximity = War.

In the end, multiculturalism always comes down to house by house, block by block, county by county ethnic cleansing. Get your team and your tactics together now.

As soon as you can get away with it, take action. Firebombing is a time-honored pest-removal tradition in many cultures. So vibrant.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:31 | 6524454 A Nanny Moose
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#ChildrensLivesMatterExceptWhenItComesToAbsurdSoveriegnDebtOrWymenzRightz

#SomebodyHasToPayThisFuckingBill

 

Nuff Said

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 01:25 | 6525538 ThatGuyFox
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hypoxic much?

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