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"Some People Just Don't Fit In The Economy" Buffett Explains: "We'll Send Them Off To Afghanistan"

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Not to be outdone by his partner Charlie Munger (who offended many with his comments that "gold is a great thing to sew onto your garments if you're a Jewish family in Vienna in 1939,"), Berkshire Hathaway's Warren Buffett - having already taken on Europe, comparing Greece to a "dog peeing on the carpet" of Europe,
suggesting Germany stop "rewarding behavior you want to get rid of"
- takes aim at the military. Speaking on Bloomberg TV, the octagenerian oracle of offense just unfriended every American veteran...

"You want everybody educated to their potential. You want people to reach their potential. That still won't work for some people in a highly developed market system.

 

I mean if this were a sports-based system, you could give me a PhD in football, and I could practice eight hours a day, and I might be able to carry the water from, not onto the field, but from the locker room to the bench. There's just some people don't fit well into a highly skilled market-based economy.

 

They're perfectly decent citizens. We'll send them off to Afghanistan, but they are not going to command a big price."

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So just the words of a funny old man who is losing his marbles, or an elitist "crony" oligarch who knows there are no consequences for his words or actions?

On the bright side, at least he did not mention illegal immigrants.

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Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:24 | 6524200 OrangeJews
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Send "Bathtub" Warren to Afghanistan.

Listen and agree with Uncle Warren.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:27 | 6524209 coinhead
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Still doesn't outdo Kissinger... “Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:29 | 6524221 Headbanger
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Didn't Horse Face say the same thing some years ago before being Sec of State?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:40 | 6524252 38BWD22
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That's (Warren) going to make people angry who are suspicious of Limousine Liberal Billionaires already...

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:44 | 6524290 Bilderberg Member
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Aren't they the very same people eating your Dairy Queen crap Uncle Warren?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:49 | 6524305 kliguy38
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He doesn't give a rat's ass about any of the sheep........you're dirt to him

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:15 | 6524396 ThroxxOfVron
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Not dirt: cannon fodder for his crony crapitalist oligarchy.

HE knows what YOUR value IS.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:20 | 6524402 knukles
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What do you expect!?!?!?!?!
He makes money off the backs of Sociopaths making money off back of the middle class
He's a big owner of Goldman Sachs, FFS!
Warren, methinks you just got your ass a wrong image problem, like Goldman claiming that "We own the world", or "Are doing God's work."

                       Something is seriously the fuck wrong.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:29 | 6524451 Stainless Steel Rat
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Trumpisms don't go over so well on actual business magnates.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:30 | 6524670 MontgomeryScott
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I see 9 comments above me, with a smattering of downvotes (7 -1, and 2 -2).

I'd say that even that octegenarian elitist cocksucker Buffett reads ZH (along with a Kissinger supporter and a John Kohn family member).

Here's a song for you negative voting WAR PIGS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GRR_n_yQGA

 

DEFINE 'ECONOMY'.

 

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:21 | 6524848 bigkahuna
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Warren, you go first.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:56 | 6524959 fleur de lis
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Yep. He should be bagged and dropped in so he can try out his own bright idea. He's just another effeminate kleptoparasite pest, better suited to the wilds of Afghanistan and the debonaire Taliban. Maybe he'd find his niche in the opium economy, honest work is beneath him and his friends.

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:43 | 6525182 JungleCat
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He already has work in the hopium economy right here at home.

He's an affable and congenial pile of arrogance, Warren is.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:58 | 6525216 Divine Wind
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Buffett is an idiot.

There is a saying in military circles:

"Never piss off anyone who can kill you from a different ZIP code."

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:21 | 6525294 Sages wife
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Imagine how pathetic he'll be, fumbling around in the dirt for his broken glasses, "Please, please, I never meant to,...I mean, I just wanted to...I promise I'll...". Welcome to the future Warren; welcome to the real world. Bang.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 00:20 | 6525446 Clever Name
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I was alone in our gym with the sound and captions on and saw it. The captioning stubled right then, and I was really hoping I didnt hear what I thought I heard.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 08:09 | 6525933 clymer
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I still can't believe that Becky banged this fossil.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:22 | 6524856 TSA Thug
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I like real free speech. "funny old man who is losing his marbles", probably not. You get to that age with that size of wallet and you just DGAS. Wake some folks up.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:11 | 6524604 HardAssets
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The psychopath Satanists in charge call the military and police -

'Our dogs'

and they despise them more than the everyday people - because they help enslave and oppress their own kind. All for a psychopath fiat currency paycheck and pension - which will be worth zero.

Warren did people a favor - by showing exactly how They think.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:29 | 6525320 847328_3527
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Cannon fodder is an informal, derogatory term for combatants who are regarded or treated as expendable in the face of enemy fire. The term is generally used in situations where combatants are forced to deliberately fight against hopeless odds (with the foreknowledge that they will suffer extremely high casualties) in an effort to achieve a strategic goal; an example is the trench warfare of World War I. The term may also be used (somewhat pejoratively) to differentiate infantry from other forces (such as artillery, air force or the navy), or to distinguish expendable low-grade or inexperienced combatants from supposedly more valuable veterans.

The term derives from fodder, as food for livestock. Soldiers are the metaphorical food for enemy cannon fire.[1]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_fodder

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 00:07 | 6525417 InvalidID
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 Not for nothin, but no shit.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 03:17 | 6525635 Nobody For President
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Yep, I was Infantry, and even worse, I volunteered. I suspect Warren was too busy making money to bother to serve his country, and I kinda like old Warren - for foregoing New York and the big money and moving back to Kansas or wherever the fuck and buying a simple house and marrying his childhood sweetheart: and still living in the same house and married to the same girl.

But he is getting senile. And Warren, if you are reading this (fat chance) you owe an apology to all of us that served while you got filthy rich.

GEM, VietNam era vet, Airborne, Ranger, Infantry. Honorable Discharge. Proud of my service.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 06:47 | 6525782 amadeus39
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So you got what you  wanted and Warren got what he wanted you to get. What's the problem?

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 09:17 | 6526132 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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"There is pride before the fall."      The Bible

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 11:41 | 6526772 Guinny_Ire
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He lives in Ritz-Carltons and Four Seasons for most of the year with full room service at the top of the building. The house allows him to "remember his roots" lol. He's a horse shitter and nothing else.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:52 | 6524314 Normalcy Bias
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If Uncle Warren starts to have enough 'episodes' of this type, he might ruin his carefully crafted public image as a kindly 'ole Grandpa.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:16 | 6524398 Chief Wonder Bread
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He's a POS and always has been. He better shut up and quit giving interviews while he's ahead.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:34 | 6524476 Bay of Pigs
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I saw him on the BlowHorn today getting fluffed by the Bimbo and asked absurdly simplistic questions.

He has lost his fuckan mind, and lies through his teeth. He sounded a lot like Paul Krugman.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:38 | 6524490 Chief Wonder Bread
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I never watch that shit. I'd rather chew glass.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:14 | 6524614 A Nanny Moose
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Then shit it out.

Warren's dad might just be rolling over in his grave...or not.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 01:34 | 6525548 anonnn
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The main difference between Warren and me was the ability to choose wisely at decision-making time, right from the gitgo.

Warren deliberated with great care when selecting his parents, thus profiting greatly from their experienced guidance and upbringing and inheritance of insider knowledge from a skilled and prosperous Wash. DC politician and financial/stockbroker. It paid off bigtime for his acquisitive character.

Me? Not so much.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 00:46 | 6525188 balolalo
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this is how the oligarchs communicate to each other and to their sub-oligarchs who march in tow.

if you are not in the families in charge then you are considered staff, a resource, cannon fodder, test subject, or criminal

everything is to their plans,

but shit collapses and things are falling apart you might say, they are losing control...

no dummy, they will be just fine, what about you? your kids?

it was by design to destroy every real attempt at proper education..... hit them from day one....

they have a plan b, c, d, e, and are 1000 steps ahead, wake up dumbasses, this civilization is a slaughterhouse, and imagine how it looks on fire....

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 05:51 | 6525740 Bioscale
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best comment in this thread

there is a saying that 358 families control the world.. and they did care pretty well to convince US folks about them being exeptional. and now this exceptionalism is coming to an end, finally

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 08:48 | 6526050 Kolchak
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No, there is actually 8 at the top, the "other" 350 work for them and so on and so forth. They are currently in a state of collapse and in fighting.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:47 | 6524724 Fukushima Fricassee
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Boycott that mother fucker

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:17 | 6525096 ThroxxOfVron
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Fuck boycott.

 

What has he actually done to earn his wealth?  

What has he made?  Productive how?   When?

Dump his worthless ass into the Soylent Green mix basin.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 00:09 | 6525424 InvalidID
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 If he's a big holder of Goldman, he's by extension a big holder of the dollar. I can't boycott the dollar, that's what my pay checks come in... :/

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 08:39 | 6526037 Christophe2
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Keep your money in gold and silver, and only use their FRNs when needed, so you suffer less from their inflation.  Don't spend money on any corporate offerings (as much as possible), and look instead for small independent companies offfering alternate services.  (ex: never buy food from the super market, but instead from the farmer's market).

I am having lots of fun boycotting their shit, and no doubt my health and finances are better for it!

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:36 | 6524253 TeamDepends
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The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labor.
-George Orwell, 1984

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:57 | 6524332 logicalman
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War is the ultimate consumer.

Been saying so for decades.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:10 | 6524378 Thirtyseven
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General Dynamics needs your son to die so they can sell a product.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 01:05 | 6525516 jeff montanye
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldt8UwJFA-k

 

War's good business so give your son

and I'd rather have my country die for me.

                                             -- grace slick

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:11 | 6524382 The Gooch
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"War is a racket" - Smedley Butler

The ghost of Simo Hayha is within us all.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:59 | 6524572 SuperRay
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Well, the people at the bottom are generally ignorant, clueless and unable to really contribute to a positive, uplifting culture.  The people at the top destroyed already whatever was positive and uplifting in the culture.  I say, let's just kill'em all and start over again.  Trouble is, for every thousand creative, positive, kind, thoughtful, moral people who can make something beautiful, there are two or three psychopaths who will turn it into a weapon to kill people and seek power over others.  Same as it ever was.  God bless George Orwell and Aldous Huxley, the true visionaries of mankind's future.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:13 | 6524612 HardAssets
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Huxley was a POS.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:29 | 6525318 stacking12321
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how so?

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 08:52 | 6526063 Christophe2
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Both Huxley and Orwell were POS.

Orwell was a member of the satanic Fabian Society, a secret society whose very image is of a wolf in sheep's clothing FOR GOD's SAKE!

The dude was a conspiring mofo who was paid to create progaganda that would terrorize and confuse the sheeple.  1984 does nothing but make people feel like they could never stop such a totalitarian system (which we live in currently!).  It makes you think that there is no way out.

--

Similarly, Huxley was also another creep from the same fold, and whose writings serve also as inspiration for the elites, and as a guide meant as a form of unavoidable fate for the sheeple.

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THINK ABOUT IT: would the totalitarian, brain-washing 'skools' have ever included their books into their curriculum if they didn't fit 100% with the elites' plans?

When people learn that reality is much like 1984, they subconsciouly come to think that things are therefore hopeless, that there is nothing we can do to stop it...

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 09:17 | 6526134 2handband
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Sad truth: there is nothing we can do to stop it. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 00:06 | 6525414 LongMarch
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Yes do tell.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:21 | 6524642 TheAntiProgressive
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The broken window theory writ large with explosions.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:49 | 6524530 FedFunnyMoney
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Very soon the goal will be the destruction of both.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:04 | 6524776 New_Meat
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he did in fact.  And the fu pictures that came back scorched the Botox right out of his face.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:35 | 6524224 nope-1004
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Would like Buffet to define "economy".  Is that insider trading?  Political favors?  Crony deal making?

What is your definition of "economy", Warren?

 

What he really means is that when it comes to human life vs corporate growth, growth (grab for money) wins.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:39 | 6524263 coinhead
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Actually Warren is 180 degrees wrong.... it is these men that get sent over to Iraq & Afghanistan that not only fit in our economy, but build and sustain this economy.  An economy that now relies fully on military plunder and foreign resource extraction.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:02 | 6524358 Freddie
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People who want to join the military should seriously think twice and their parents should stop them.  The people in charge of America are monsters and they walways have been since just before the Civil War.

Buffett is an evil old man who's father was a Senator.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:31 | 6524456 Omen IV
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That is the real point - why are their parents allowing them or encouraging them to perpetuate this sick system

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:24 | 6524876 New_Meat
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Omen IV, you too sir ought to get your head outta' your ass.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:31 | 6524457 Omen IV
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That is the real point - why are their parents allowing them or encouraging them to perpetuate this sick system

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:25 | 6524877 New_Meat
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Omen IV, you too sir ought to get your head outta' your ass.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:31 | 6524458 Omen IV
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That is the real point - why are their parents allowing them or encouraging them to perpetuate this sick system

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:25 | 6524878 New_Meat
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Omen IV, you too sir ought to get your head outta' your ass.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:31 | 6524459 Omen IV
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That is the real point - why are their parents allowing them or encouraging them to perpetuate this sick system

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:36 | 6524483 Talleyrand
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Most of them have one 'parent', at best.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:46 | 6524519 Arnold
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I'm in.

 

paying job and skill training,

Beats the white decline middle class hood by a mile.

Hell I am even a minority recruit!

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:29 | 6524907 New_Meat
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Arnold, if you have the brainpower to do this, I'd suggest researching Thomas Mc Owens.  He's, well, one of those PhDs who got it and get's it.

Where are you in, if one might be permitted to inquire?

- Ned

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:59 | 6525399 blu-rok
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Like that old man told chubby boy in 'Deliverance', "You don't know nothin'". 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:10 | 6524605 Kassandra
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Omen...ya got a fat finger..

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:26 | 6524892 New_Meat
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'cuz his head is so far up his ass that he can't see what his fat finger is doing.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 06:52 | 6525789 Farqued Up
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Neural twitches.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:36 | 6524689 OneHorseCarriage
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Their parents obviously don't know the truth about the military taking over the world for greed and power at the expense of our young people. A pox on Buffett.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:25 | 6524882 New_Meat
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Omen IV, you too sir ought to get your head outta' your ass.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:35 | 6525159 mnevins2
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Speaking as one such parent - and a long-time ZH member - I can tell you that my son is now fully trained to defend himself when TSHTF in the near future.  Any questions?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:12 | 6524804 New_Meat
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Jesus God Freddie, gitcher anal-cranial inversion situation looked at by a COMPETENT specialist.  I doubt that anything can be done for you in your case.

"People who want to join the military should seriously think twice and their parents should stop them."

... er ... people who want to join the military are, let us face this seriously, ADULTS!!!!!  They don't need nor can thay have their parents' permission to volunteer.

Ya Get That?  Volunteer?

And yes, there is that special time when the older recruits come along and say "You'll be sorreeeeee!!"

And most (more than on civ-street) get over that and go on to do good things.

The people in charge of putting together a competent military force have been monsters since before the first crack at Europe by the Caliphate, that would go way back into Greek and Roman times, keep going back ... and back.

You, sir are too much of a pansy to understand this.

And, yes, ol' Snowflake is EVIL and his father was a Senator and his mother smelled of elderberries.

- Ned

The only thing more expensive than a winning military force is an expensive force that loses.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:34 | 6524834 nmewn
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"The only thing more expensive than a winning military force is an expensive force that loses."

Now that my little piglet is genuinely, pearls before swine.

///////

Wut?

My down voter(s) thinkin St.Pooty! is going to appoint a "Refugee Czar" or draw a redline in the sand to stop this "unbelievable humanitarian crisis" in it's tracks or is he there to actually kick some ISIS ass?

Yeah, I thought so, you guys just sit on back, adjust your turbans, scratch your chins, navel gaze a little bit more while complaining about the awful manner in which your warm blanket is provided to you and then we'll talk again in the morning ;-)

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:23 | 6524419 QQQBall
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CH - bullshit. Most of the military are morons. I served in the Army at the end of Vietnam and it was full of alchies, druggies and total morons. Total clusterfuck.

They had to pay people to join, or give convicted criminals a choice - serve jail time or volunterr for the military.

The whole "Hero" meme just plays to their stupidity - you get your legs blown off but your wife gets to board a domestic flight first.  Risk getting killed to protect poppy fields, potential gas line routes or protect whichever dictator we like at the moment. The military is staffed via a poverty draft - buffet is right, unthinkingly following orders is their highest and best use. The way the disabled vets are treated, however, is a national disgrace.

 

BTW, why does some military wife get to board the plane before me? I actually served?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:28 | 6524443 Sophist Economicus
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I served in the Army at the end of Vietnam and it was full of alchies, druggies and total morons. Total clusterfuck.

 

Reminds me of my walks north of Grammercy Park

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:29 | 6524449 Talleyrand
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Who needs a draft when you have minimum wage laws?

Oh, and don't use airlines. Your world will be brighter for it.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:47 | 6524978 New_Meat
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flsa doesn't apply to the military

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:46 | 6524520 Macon Richardson
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Why does some military wife get to board the plane before you? That falls under the 'ladies first' rule.

As to the army being full of 'alchies, druggies and total morons,' how does that differ from the general population? At least their shoes were shined. At least they wore shoes.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:59 | 6524762 Fukushima Fricassee
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Taxes paid for them fucking shoes. Buffet should hurry up and die.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:36 | 6524928 New_Meat
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QQQBall, yep, I joined (that is, volunteered) just at that time.  Doggiez had it really bad, Misguided Children almost as bad.

But some really good leaders decided that, rather than give up their organizations, they would work to fix things.  Dambdest thing you ever did see.

And I agree with overstating the Hero thing.  just 'cuz u have a set of digi-camz doesn't make u a hero.

It is different now, in that the "unthinkingly following orders" pretty much is gone by.

And the military wife boarding before you?  Go to the top of your post.  You, sir, are a self-admitted moron.  You were a part of the clusterfuck.  And you didn't do things on a personal level to stop that behaviour.

- Ned

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 00:46 | 6525477 blu-rok
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qball,

Wah, crybaby.  So you never got a parade, tfb.  I fought for oil in '91, they call it the 1st Gulf War now.  Whatever bitterness I have about the service, if I have any, is my own doing.  The military doesn't make anyone love or hate it, it's inanimate.  Your whining shows what you made of your time in, apparently not much.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:32 | 6524234 Zirpedge
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The fact of the matter is that there is no particular place for brute strength which was once channeled in the industrial sector of the economy. North America no longer needs to be a manufacturing economy, the excess human resource pool is etter directed to far away conflicts to secure access to scarce natural resources under the guise of spreading dmeocracy. Uncle Warrens comment is perfectly in line with the agenda of stirring up civil conflict in the homeland to increase spending in the defense industry. 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:33 | 6524244 Arnold
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Nice and shows insight.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 07:57 | 6525886 August
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Lovable Uncle Warren is pretty much spot on.

But he's losing some of those higher cognitive functions, and speaking a little too honestly.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:44 | 6524291 NoPension
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Yeah, but without an external enemy, the goon squad get bored, and starts looking at us for fun.

I just finished Blind Man's Bluff. The story of the submarine service in the Cold War.
Very good read. The biggest take away, both sides (Soviet, USA) were like " what the fuck do we do now" after detente. I mean these guys needed each other, to justify their existance. You can't turn that off like a light switch.
There has to be an enemy. There must be an enemy. If not, they will create one. Osama Bin Laden was heaven sent to these guys. Quaddaffi, Sadam Hussein, perfect bad guys.
Notice, they don't fuck with that nut job in North Korea.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:16 | 6524620 greenskeeper carl
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that may be true in one sense, but doesn't really apply to the average soldier. for TPTB, the ones who actually run the country, it is absolutely essential to have a boogeyman for "two minutes of hate". someone, or something, must be blamed for the police state and crumbling economy we are living in. Absent that imaginary boogeyman, people would look to them with their anger, so you et what we have now. But for the average young guy in the military, the ones duped into doing the fighting, have no such need, and, for most of them anyway, would be perfectly happy without a war to fight.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:35 | 6524684 TheReplacement
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Are you saying the mass media might be part of the entire fascade used to get nice well intentioned kids to go kill and be killed?  Who would use mass media for such a thing?

Do ya see what I did there?

Huh, Warren, do ya?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:41 | 6525350 847328_3527
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One reason why they don't mess with that nut in NK 'cause China would come to his defense. True, the Chinese are fed up with him too but there's no way they want any Western nation on their doorstep.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:43 | 6524970 New_Meat
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NoPension:

"Notice, they don't fuck with that nut job in North Korea."

Well, when THE Drug LORD lives down the street and he has a retail shop with a coupla' rat-dogs yippin' and yappin' what do you do.  Do you fuck with the retail shop?

On the other hand, in the winter, when the retail shop boss gets all feisty and shit and wants to go out onna' town to do some shit, all of a sudden, well, his pipes start to freeze and the normal order-in food stops, well, yappin' has gone down and piety returns to the small retail shop.

My biggest takeaway was "Detente is the first-quarter intermission, there are still opponents on the field".  My second is "man, do these guys have balls".

- Ned

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 07:01 | 6525805 Ace Ventura
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There's a single major reason for why we don't fuck with Kim Yung Nutjob. NUKES. He's got 'em. THus, can we really blame the persians for wanting nukes themselves? It's the most obvious lesson out there on the global scene......get nukes, and Uncle Sugar won't decide to fucking 'liberate' your country at some point. As a bonus.....act crazy enough to use them, and he might actually send you goodies (i.e. North Korea again).

Granted, the psychos running the nw0 these days are itching so badly for another world war as a means to further their agenda....that they're methodically talking themselves into believing the routine use of nukes will be no biggie.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 09:12 | 6526116 New_Meat
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Ace, lil Kim don't sneeze without permission from Beijing.  Your answer might be 1A, 'tain't 1.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 07:21 | 6525840 Farqued Up
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I think they should vaporize that little sawed off fat fuck, he suffers mad dog disease. The land of the yellow sheep has missile 2nd stage separation technology thanks to Loral's special treatment by Slick Willie. They removed clearance from State and gave it to Commerce under Ron Brown. Say, whatever happened to him? Huh? You don't mean it?!

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:58 | 6524336 logicalman
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I think it's called imperialism.

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:59 | 6524337 Escrava Isaura
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Zirpedge

Awesome comment.

 

Couple things:

“in line with the agenda.” Can’t tell how many times I heard (not the same way Warren said and the same way you wrote) this thinking in DC.

 

Second:

“America’s elites know that capitalism is totally unworkable. We try to impose it in the 3rd world so we can destroy them”Noam Chomsky

 

Anyway. Thanks for a great, and correct post………. My opinion.

 

 

 

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:21 | 6524637 greenskeeper carl
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“America’s elites know that capitalism is totally unworkable. We try to impose it in the 3rd world so we can destroy them”

 

noam chomsky is a fucking idiot and so are you if you believe that. What we have today is central planning, and yes, it is clearly proving to be totally unworkable. You could call what we have today socialism, fascism, cronyism, corporatism, any of those things are an accurate description, but is sure as shit ain't capitalism.

 

How you can look at a world filled with bailouts, money printing, and governments all over the world letting corportaions rig the game for themselves with the guns of government capitalism? wake the fuck up

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:37 | 6524694 TheReplacement
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Hundreds of college professors just screamed out in horror and were suddenly silenced.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:16 | 6524771 Mediocritas
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You guys crying, "this isn't Capitalism", when presented with the evidence of the USA, are exactly the same as Lefties crying, "that wasn't Communism", when presented with the evidence of the USSR. You have a romantic ideology that you're emotionally attached to and when presented with the ugly truth of your ideology in actual application, the cognitive dissonance that results causes you to get angry.

Capitalism is dominant. All over the OECD we have governments of the capital, by the capital, for the capital. It seems you have some quaint notion of that capital being widely dispersed amongst a vibrant middle class, this being - in your mind - "true" capitalism. The obvious flaws you blame on Socialism yet, ironically, to get towards the utopia you dream of would require wealth dilution and decidedly more Socialist policy with heavy regulation to inhibit future uber concentration of wealth. The solution is Aurea Mediocritas but your ideology prohibits you from seeing it, hence your utopia is unattainable and your frustration grows.

Capitalism is a contest and contests have winners. Those winners act in the interests of the capital, wealth concentrates and Fascism results. This is the inevitable end game of Capitalism particularly when it's the lassez-faire persuasion and Marx, for his failings, did nail this one. Crony capitalism IS STILL CAPITALISM just as a crusty old lady is still a human female. Not as attractive as when she was young, but saying "that's not a woman" because she's old and ugly and you dream of young and hot, is just dumb.

PS: Chomsky is a fucking genius and he knows how to fix capitalism. You should actually read him.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:16 | 6525283 2handband
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This. I'm not sure i've ever seen it laid out so well. There is no possible way in a capitalist system to prevent the largest concentrations of wealth from being leveraged into power. None. Zero. We're fucked.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 06:53 | 6525793 skipjack
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Sure there is. Don't let it buy the guns of government. That's called fascism.

 

Better yet, do away with government and you get rid of monopolies, oligarchies, etc. Read some Hayek, ffs.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 07:07 | 6525822 2handband
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Do away with government and those with the most capital just start hiring private armies. You won't be any better off. 

I've got thousands of years of history on my side. Our mankey brains can't handle material wealth. The moment it gets introduced into the picture anywhere in the world it gets concentrated into the hands of the few and leveraged into power. There has never, ever been an exception to the rule.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 08:14 | 6525947 August
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Chomsky's description of how the world works are damn accurate, if depressing.

On those occasions where he offers "solutions", I find them unconvincing, as they seem to boil down "get money out of politics" and "implement more effective government oversight", both of which seem nigh on to impossible. 

My only suggestion is to teach your children how to 1) suck banker cock, or 2) go down fighting.  Sorry.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 08:57 | 6526076 2handband
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And there you have it. We're not going to win. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 01:34 | 6525549 Escrava Isaura
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Mediocritas

Outstanding post.

 

Your 2nd paragraph should be a MUST read for all posting here, at Zero Hedge.

 

Thought you should know that I have you as one of my favorite posters at Zero Hedge. Alongside MEFOBILLS, Ghordius, LetThemEatRand, The9thDoctor, Seer, Falak Pema,  and few others. Many that don’t post many comments anymore such as Caviar Emptor and Dork of Cork.

 

Wondering why?

 

Because you get it. Because you understand the larger picture.

 

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 03:29 | 6525650 Diplodicus Rex
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I think your understanding of the word "capital" is somewhat misguided. Fiat currency printed by a select goup of people out of thin air at the inception of what is fraudulently referred to as a "loan" with interest charged on that "loan" which itself was never printed is definitely NOT capitalism. It is fraud and theft. Its a damn sight harder to accumulate capital if you have to earn it rather than counterfeit it. That's not some idealistic utopia. That is the hard reality of it.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 07:36 | 6525859 2handband
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It's an inevitable end result. It may be harder to accumulate capital under such a system... but some will, and to think they won't leverage that accumulation into power is stunningly naive.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 22:25 | 6534271 Really20
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The fake paper claims on capital (money, equity, negotiable instruments) created by the banks dilute the claims of other individuals. Even though these claims do not themselves create value (they may motivate improved capacity usage to a moderate extent, at the price of inflation) they allow control by their creators of a larger proportion of the economy. Whether a bank has $10 trillion or $11 trillion in assets doesn't matter, it's the economic control that's important.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:36 | 6524927 Really20
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Capitalism is a system in which businesses are not owned by the workers, but by outside parties (private investors and the state). More specifically, under capitalism the equity holders of buisness enterprises have control over its operation by virtue of being equity holders.

Capitalism doesn't imply the existence of a free market; in fact, by spurring the concentration of capital into the hands of a few bankers and wealthy men and women, it reduces competition, incentive, and economic freedom. Worker ownership in the context of a market economy would resolve a lot of these problems. Investors (equity holders) in a corporation would have to negotiate a rate of return with the majority-worker board, rather than being able to decide this rate of return for themselves with endless share buybacks and dividends.

To say that "true capitalism" has never been tried before, because we lack a free market, is ridiculous. Capitalism can exist without a free market and a free market can exist without capitalism.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 06:56 | 6525798 skipjack
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@Really20, you are not describing capitalism. You are describing corporatism or fascism.

 

Amazing how many otherwise bright people fall for the propaganda.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 07:39 | 6525864 2handband
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As explained above, this is the only way it's ever going to exist. Some people will accumulate larger piles of money then those around them, and those people WILL leverage that money into power. It's happened so many times in human history that it amazes me people think we can rejigger things and get a different result. Our primitive monkey brains simply can't handle material wealth, It's always going to be concentrated into the hands of the few, and those people are going to run things.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:03 | 6525238 I-am-not-one-of-them
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nothing works well anywhere when there are too many parasites sucking the lifeblood of those who produce

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:15 | 6525276 2handband
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And if you see even the smallest chance of eliminating the parasites you are an idiot.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:58 | 6525398 sapioplex
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Eliminating the parasites is impossible, but disarming them to the point that they impose virtually no harm may be possible. Just clarifying your point (unless you were, in fact, claiming to know everything.)

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 07:09 | 6525826 2handband
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I do know that it's never been done.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 07:37 | 6525862 Farqued Up
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Impossible in any system that 2 wolves can vote the 1 lamb as dinner. Democracy isn't good without Constitutional protections, in fact, it devolves into parasites in full support of evil controllers. Everything else is a debate of esoteric bullshit.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:52 | 6524548 MSimon
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If you believe Chinese stats the US is the 2nd largest mfg economy in the world. But like agriculture in the 20s low skill labor is being designed out.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:35 | 6525157 Lanka
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The US BLS counts burger flipping at McD's as "manufacturing"

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:24 | 6524420 Sophist Economicus
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Yo, COINHEAD, Kissinger didn't say that.    And the author (a whacko) that put it in the book admitted as much in court...

 

But, keep the internet memes alive -- afterall, we are what we read...

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:01 | 6524585 caconhma
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<It ia a war and either you surrender or you  fight.> Well, it is true.


Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:01 | 6525031 Larry Dallas
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We ZH'ers all don't think that highly of Warren, but he is right.

when will eugenics come back into fashion?

Junk away.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 03:11 | 6525633 sun tzu
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I'm all for it if we start with your family first then move on to ols Warren and his family.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:05 | 6525247 2handband
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And Kissinger was right. Anyone who is stupid enought to work for the MIC deserves whatever he or she gets. I include myself; I was in the Air Force during the 90s. For this I am deeply ashamed.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:33 | 6524245 orez65
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Warren Buffett, you are a scumbag!

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:40 | 6524500 midtowng
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I wanna see the link for this. Anyone got it?

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:50 | 6524734 Blankenstein
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If you watch the Bloomberg video above, he says it between 7:00 and 7:45 minutes.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:00 | 6524582 MiltonFriedmans...
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Warren Buffet (MF')

Would you please explain your whereabouts on 9/11 and maybe give us a guesstimate of how many billion you made on Katrina? What a worthless piece of human excrement, no offense to human excrement....

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:32 | 6525149 ArtOfLife
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On Katrina: "Berkshire had a decent year in 2005. We initiated five acquisitions (two of which have yet to close) and most of our operating subsidiaries prospered. Even our insurance business in its entirety did well, though Hurricane Katrina inflicted record losses on both Berkshire and the industry. We estimate our loss from Katrina at $2.5 billion – and her ugly sisters, Rita and Wilma, cost us an additional $.9 billion." 

Source: Berkshire annual letter 2005. http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/2005ar/2005ar.pdf

His insurance businesses lost about $2.5 billion due to Katrina. Not made money, lost money.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 07:55 | 6525887 Farqued Up
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And then his little minions scurried forth to the insurance Commissioners for hefty increases on that single event as if there is another Katrina in the Gulf at all times. Not quite, but directionally accurate.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:30 | 6524673 ASACJon
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Warren Buffet will fit in well in a future military tribunal.

Convict this despicable bastard under the USA PATRIOT Act. Give him the 'full treatment' with the rest of the nationless traitors and confiscate the ill gotten gains of this disgusting class of usurious demoniacs.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 11:48 | 6526828 J Jason Djfmam
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Senile old bastard.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:24 | 6524204 Pooper Popper
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This Vet says Fuck You cock sucker!

your WAy over due for your dirt nap.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:33 | 6524248 coinhead
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There was a time when considered the military in early 20's.  Then began reading about the types of scum that really run the system, start the wars.  Couldn't imagine taking a bullet for any of these fucks, if anything... we would turn the gun around on them.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:46 | 6524295 Bananamerican
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neither of my kids will ever "serve" or service this Beast...unless dragooned...and even then....

There is nothing to defend here anymore expcept a borderless Babylon, a polyglot Moloch...

a devouring, fascist, CorpoRat State...

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:47 | 6524499 Freddie
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It has been evil since before The Civil War.  I do not watch shit TV or shit hollywood but the other night I watched an old TV show on the web/  Steve McQueen in Wanted Dead or Alive or the bounty hunter.

The thing that shocked me is deserters in The (phony bankster) Civil War were shot or hanged?  Apparently it was not totally practical to shoot all deserters but I am sure a few were executed. Just like nazi ukraine.

The whole f**king Civil War was a Red Sheild bankster creation and a war to loot the South.  Pretty similiar to what the Red Shield and Soros are doing in the Ukraine and did in Libya as well as many other wars.   

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:34 | 6524249 SMG
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His view are most likey very in line with the rest of his Globalist Oligarch buddies.

DON'T FORGET THAT IN THE FUTURE WHEN THE TIME COMES.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 18:59 | 6524324 BringOnTheAsteroid
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You sound proud to be a vet.

I don't get it.

When was the last time a U.S. soldier defended American soil.

How many humans have died as a result of the U.S. war machine.

Proud to be a vet?

Or terribly remorseful you were brainwashed by your government to plunder other nations.

I dont fucking get it.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 19:25 | 6524422 Crocodile
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There are may reasons; most are with good intentions which doesn't help make it any better.  In the overall scheme of things; few things any of us do are worth much.  Apart from being reconciled to God in Christ; nothing will matter in the end and it will be just another wasted life.  At least all the children who are victims of these wars & conflicts are safe in the arms of God.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:03 | 6524566 BringOnTheAsteroid
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The whole god/christ thing is just more brainwashing but rather than the government doing the brainwashing as in the case of soldiers it's the church doing the brainwashing.

As with the military establishment and as with the church a fundamental characteristic is that you can't criticize them. We're all trained to revere "vets" which is deeply ironic given that US vets, particlularly, are murderous assholes. How can that possibly be that the bulk of the citzenry has been trained to revere them. It only makes sense in the context of brain washing.

Same with the church. Historically the church is probably responsible for as many deaths as US soldiers, maybe even more. But you can't criticize the church, we have been trained not to.

All the dead children as a result of the US military machine are dead, they no longer exist. When you say blithely it's all OK, they are in the hands of god is just further evidence of the brainwashing designed to prevent the realisation of just how fucking horrible it is to take a life. Designed to prevent the dumb masses for developing the necessary disgust and utter revulsion and stopping the government in its tracks.

It takes alot of courage to realise and finallky admit you are victim of brainwashing.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 20:38 | 6524696 greenskeeper carl
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good points. I went to a catholic church service not too long ago with my wifes family. Usually I stay at home, they don't even ask me to go anymore, as Ive made it clear that Im not interested, but I went to this one because it was for a baptism, and I didnt want to be an asshole about it. I was kinda glad I did, because it reinforced several of the reasons why I don't believe in any of that shit(not that I really needed it). It was an exercise in government worship. I lost count of how many times we were reminded to pray for "our brave law enforcement officers" and those "brave heros who at this very minute are fighting to defend our freedom" (yes, the guy really said that). It was hard to keep track of what the guy was praising more, the government or the magic sky fairy. The whole time Im sitting there wondering how they can reconcile praising the entity making war and killing people while claiming to worship "the prince of peace". It was creepy as shit.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 21:24 | 6524863 Fukushima Fricassee
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The Catholic church and the US government have nothing to do with God. That should be your only take away.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:30 | 6525321 BringOnTheAsteroid
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There are 2 billion Catholics who would disagree.

So who is right?

There's the rub.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 03:58 | 6525680 IronForge
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2 Billion Catholics?

You've got that number wrong.  Try Half.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 23:54 | 6525377 BringOnTheAsteroid
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I know you can't conceive this but god exists in your internal model of the universe, the model of the universe constructed by the neural network of your brain. You no doubt have a deeply personal and emotional need for such a father figure so your internal model constructs such a being. 

God only exists as a complex structure of neurons and axons in your brain.

You cannot conceive that this internal model is purely that, a model. It does not necessarily have anything to do with the external universe.

Humans are generally incapable of differentiating between the mind and physical external world. It's made even more complex because your brain is also part of the physical universe.

There is no evidence whatsoever of a god in the external universe. If there was every scientist on the face of the earth would be a theist.

You don't really need to know anything else about the subject from this purely empirical point of view.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 00:47 | 6525492 trip kitchen
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The only thing that is more preposterous than the concept of a god/creator is the denial of same.  It always amuses me when existential pundits pontificate on the lack of a supreme universal force.  We humans, who in this universe(s?) of some 14 billion light years in expanse,  barely have the intelligence to crawl off our home rock.  Yet somehow we (sic) still have the impudence to bark out this or that thought or belief and put a period after it thus closing the argument for further contemplation.  A little humility in the vastness of how much is unknown is definitely in order.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 03:02 | 6525625 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Hang on, I didn't say there wasn't a supreme force or being or invisible skyman. I said there is no evidence of one.

Look into the deep vastness of space and what do you see, galaxies, stars, planets, nebulas, indications of black holes and space.

There's no father figure sitting in a throne in deep space.

Evidence is all that matters.

Cold hard evidence.

"The only thing that is more preposterous than the concept of a god/creator is the denial of same."

That doesn't make sense. If denying the existence of a creator is preposterous then denying the existence of a creator of a creator is even more preposterous.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 09:02 | 6526090 Mayer Amschel R...
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There's some internet space we'll never get back...

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:40 | 6527079 trip kitchen
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"Look into the deep vastness of space and what do you see..."

 

Well, here's some cold hard evidence...given that visible light is only about 2 percent of the electomagnetic spectrum, and most scientists agree at this point that unseen dark energy and dark matter further encompass 96% of the known universe, I'd say what you don't see is far more extensive than what you do see, so I guess you proved my point there, chief.

Do you have a family or people that are very close to you?  Do you love them?  I'm guessing the answer is yes, but can you prove it?  Show me your cold hard evidence of that love. Some things by their nature are intangible, and can't be observed through visual inspection, yet are still very real.  

Also, I would lose the "invisible skyman" Schtick, it's not helping your argument.

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:39 | 6529744 BringOnTheAsteroid
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What's in hells name has me loving a family member got to do with a mystical skyman creating the universe.

It's difficult to argue with christians because while I see the sun as giant fusion reaction converting hydrogen into helium, they see it as a warm hug from jesus.

"given that visible light is only about 2 percent of the electomagnetic spectrum"

Fucking marvellous, CHIEF. So fucking what.

Doesn't mean the invisible skyman exists in another wavelength of the electromagnetic spectrum.

We can't SEE outside the universe if such a notion even makes sense, maybe the great great bearded invisible skyman is sitting in his throne outside the observable universe.

EVIDENCE BUDDY, EVIDENCE. If you can't measure it then to all intents and purposes it doesn't exist, UNTIL YOU CAN FUCKING MEASURE IT. How else can we ever know its there unless you can measure it ??????????

Oh yeh right, because your imagination can imagine it that is somehow good enough for the unthinking among us.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 08:27 | 6525994 August
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I'll give the Catholics one thing: they don't put the national flag up by the altar, the way idiot 'Murcan protestants do.

Tue, 09/08/2015 - 22:11 | 6525077 Boxed Merlot
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It takes alot of courage to realise and finallky admit you are victim of brainwashing...

 

 

I’m not sure where you abide in the US but I can tell you I’ve endured over 5 decades of abuse and scorn for having faith in God and more specifically for believing Jesus was/is in fact not only the son of man but the son of God.  My faith was developed with absolutely no encouragement from any of my secular education unless you count ridicule the heat that forges conviction.

To say my faith is the result of brainwashing is a prime example of the abuse you claim you and our society are somehow conditioned to not be allowed to participate in.  Please, your contempt for those who hold the logical and wholly analytically sound conviction as to the origin of our being as one created by a self-existent and eternal life giving God is amusing to witness if it weren’t so pathetically steeped in deceit.

It is horrible to take a life as you have stated, but the taking of the life is only the end product of the initial desire of the hatred and contempt one has for a fellow human being well before the trigger is pulled, the button is pushed or the nail is driven.

 

Jmo.  

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