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War Drums Beating: Bulgaria Blocks Russian Access To Its Airspace For Syria Flights
On Monday we flagged a notable escalation in the build up to the geopolitical “main event” in Syria where, thanks largely to the West’s ambition to break Gazprom’s leverage over Europe, the US and Russia are one “accidental” run-in away from taking the “proxy” out of the term “proxy war.”
With the Kremlin now ramping up its military presence around the Assad stronghold of Latakia, the US is scrambling to do anything and everything in its power to slow the Russian build up - including putting pressure on Greece to deny Russia the use of its airspace for supply flights to Syria.
This isn’t the first time Greece has found itself in the middle of Cold War 2.0, as Athens (and notably Panagiotis Lafazanis) used Greece’s geographical position to field competing gas pipeline bids from Washington and Moscow during the height of the country’s fraught bailout negotiations.
So while we wait for Greece to pick a side between the US and Russia by either allowing Moscow to use its airspace on the way to supplying Assad or else snubbing the Kremlin and jeopardizing a potentially lucrative gas deal, at least one country has been quick to make a decision: Bulgaria...
#BreakingNews Bulgaria has denied Russia use of its airspace for supply flights to Syria http://t.co/SR6IvQTqFO
— Al Arabiya English (@AlArabiya_Eng) September 8, 2015
Why, you ask? According to a spokeswoman, the Bulgarian foreign ministry has "enough information that makes [it] have serious doubts about the cargo of the planes, which is the reason for the refusal."
What's particularly amusing here is that all of the above (Greece's reluctance to immediately acquiesce to Washington's demands, Bulgaria's move to deny Russia use of its airspace, and the whole Syrian civil war) is the direct result of energy disputes. As mentioned above, Greece is being pulled between The Southern Gas Corridor and the Turkish Stream, while the South Stream debacle means Bulgaria has no reason not to side with the West. And of course the entire crisis in Syria all comes down the proposed Qatar-Turkey line.
So once again, it all comes down to natural gas and if the conflict in Syria has taught us anything so far, it's that when it comes to energy, the world's most powerful nations are willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of lives to protect their interests.
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Cry Havoc, and let slip the dogs of war!
Putin is just showing the citizens of the EU how their politicians are someone elses lap dogs.
Obviously Russia can help with the refugee problem by helping get rid of ISIS but strangely the USA and NATO dont want that.
Funny how with all the NATO bombings, ISIS still makes headway. The citizens of the EU have had it with the refugee problem and they are seeing it for what it is, an intentional policy of NATO and the EU politicians.
Yes, ISIS grew out of CIA/American/NATO-backed "rebels" and is now the current excuse for MORE military spending by bankrupt western governments. It's a jobs program. Russia simply wants to "employ" some of their MIC companies/people.
Fair enough, I guess.
Doesn't really matter except to the refugees who will be denied more immediate aid.
Russia will continue to transport weapons via ship, and can overfly other nations. As for Bulgaria,
they fucked themselves completely when it comes to Southstream. Any of their happy talk about Russia returning is revealed in its falsity.
This whole "MSM Discovers Refugee Crisis" then the "Russians Invade Syria"
Yeah, fuck you ZATO. You don't even try to be clever anymore.
While another engineered humanitarian crisis is underway in Yemen, the Libyan, Egyptian, Iraqi and Syrian ones are playing out right on schedule.
At least we'll get treated to the downfall of that little bitch Erdogan and eventually the House of Saud. Not sure if it will be worth it with all the lives that will be lost, but I'll damn sure hoist a beer to the demise of those two.
What would happen if Putin announced to the world that Russia was adopting whole-cloth the USA Constitution of representitive democracy.
They'd phase it in over 10 years, building up to a full democratic federation of states, and in complete contrast to the USA, they'd actually stick to the consitution and give equal and individual rights to the people...
What would happen?
How could the US war machine spin that? Wouldn't that be interesting?
Cause my guess is that in Russia, the people have more actual rights and freedoms that the peeps in the USA do no (i'm not talking about 'on paper,' I'm talking about in reality).
Nage.
IIRC the globalists will not be duplicating the US, it was a one off to build up the NWO.
Representative government is not on the menu, they see it as flawed system, they'd know, they're the ones that exploit it.
'...but I'll damn sure hoist a beer to the demise of those two..'
A beer? Fuck that, I've got a lovely bottle of XO I've been saving for just that moment. You're welcome round to drink it with me and we'll watch Erdogan and the House of Saud being butt-fucked with swords on youtube.
Actually, having read that last sentence, that sounds a bit gay, sorry Paveway, I rescind my offer.
Not as gay as the title for this very ZH article:
"War Drums Beating: Bulgaria Blocks Russian Access To Its Airspace For Syria Flights"
I didn't want to sound too ignorant, but the first thing I though of is WTF? Why would Russia fly over Bulgaria to get to Syria? Lo and behold, the evil Ruskies have outfoxed ZATO by not really ever using Bulgaria (or Greece, for that matter):
Russians: We're Not Using the Bulgaria Route to Syria Anyway
and
So my American missing-geography-chromosome OR the years of indulging in heroin and crack hasn't impaired me on geospatial reconning for this one.
Geo Tip of the Day: Bulgaria isn't between Russia and Syria.
I am SO GLAD the world ends on the 23rd. Or 24th. or 26th... or whenever pissed-off Jesus comes back to lay waste to ZATO, the Gulf States and Turkey. I think he likes the Rojava Kurds, so they'll be OK. And Greenland - Jesus likes them.
Using Iran, they have to go over Iraq, Armenia and Azerbaijan... Murica could put pressure on Iraq/Azerbaijan to stop those flights too, it's not over.
well, it's too bad that the *Ukraine* holds all their former shipyards, or you know they could get around that little problem by building a carrier task force group, or something...
#carriergroupsmatter
Bulgaria's airforce has about 30 aircraft. And...where do you suppose they were manufactured? Whoops...there goes your spare parts.
Fate the Magnificent
"Push the Button, Max"
Hey Turtle Brain
have you been lately to the Ukie shipyards? All of them have been asset stripped, with anything valuable long gone and sold as scrap. What is left has not been modernized since the 1980's.
awwwww did I hit a nerve? hahaha...
http://theweek.com/articles/572496/russias-navy-falling-apart
The article is bs, even without having to click it and read it. Russias most prominant shipyard is the St.petersburg shipyard and Amur shipyard. They are building various project ships. Mind you, I dont disagree that they need to modernize it and build more of the same ships, but there has been talk of the Rus navy falling apart for decades. Gorshkov class frigates, Grigorovich class Frigates, Steregushy Corvettes, etc are all being built. Borei ssbm's, new improved Kilo subs, etc are all being made. There are of course other type of ships too.
And yes, they been sending them to Syria. Calltd "Syria Express". Look it up if you care to know more.
Turtle brain is just another dumb ass ukie troll, living in a fantasy propaganda world.
Russia has shipyards, and can build what she needs. More importantly, Russia is not an offensive naval power, unlike the USSA, so does not need a large blue water navy. Nor, with the development of 'carrier killer' missiles, does she need to waste trillions building useless ships that will disappear within 30 minutes of a global war.
30 minutes? What an optimist.
I doubt that they will float that long...unless they are very far away from any action.
Theweek? It would have been beeter if you had pulled some shit from ictoria Nuland's ass.
#surfacefleetaretargetships
Standard Disclaimer: Even the dumbest cook aboard a sub has a higher iq than you.
The truth is that ISIS isn't the cause of the "refugee" invasion - Saudi Arabia is.
Optimist.
Something rarely heard in a nuclear conflict: "Hah, you missed!"
This is just an hypothesis.
We are all so fucked.
As soon as the first unit of currency was loaned into existence (with attached interest) we were fucked.
pods
No not fucked in the bankruptcy since of fucked, but fucked in terms of "I don'T see a way out except complete and total war" since of fucked.
My thoughts on previous world leaders looking at the past 100 years have changed more in the past 2 weeks than I could have ever imagined.
Can anyone else "feel" something is about to break -- or is it just me?
It's probably just gas. :)
In all seriousness, it might be just about to go to hell and things start exploding. Might not.
I have no control one way or the other so I focus on other things. I do think there will be a debt diet pretty soon (deflation) as there is just too much debt to keep propped up.
Will it take down a currency? idk. I don't think that proxy wars for energy/debt are going to mushroom into full blown World War though.
They have a new (debt) currency just waiting in the wings when one goes pop though. They have to. This is the absolute greatest swindle in the history of the world. There is no way they want to simply let it die.
And the people will clamor for it when it comes. Mark my words.
pods
Yes, and the Pope will undoubtedly lay it all out in his orders to US Congress and UN when he comes to "visit".
Absolutely it is. We have said, as have many others, that it begins in September. Watch for US stocks to implode on Monday (9/14), with events accelerating into 9/22-9/24. Not saying the world will end, but the beginning of it will be clear for all to see. If you haven't completed 99.9% of your prepping, why?
Today.
3 weeks of supplies & water at home. I live in 600 square feet. I don't think I can manage much more in my little attic.
WWIII is already being fought covertly. Soon enough, it will be fought openly.
If you can make it to the Rhein-Main Gebiet and can use a gun you are welcome to come. i have enough for you
I am very proficient with my AK. I think 3 weeks would be enough for Germany, and I am in FFM so RM isn't that far away. Good to know similarly thinking people are in the area.
Bin in OF zu hause
OF.a.M.?
Schön. Ich bin direkt in der nähe von B.HB.
Yup.:-) Lust auf ein Bier irgendwann ? Muss nächste Woche nach Amiland, hoffentlich komme ich heil wieder !!!!
where is FFM?
thx
It's short for Frankfurt am Main
"Can anyone else "feel" something is about to break -- or is it just me? "
We apprehend the World in two ways Haus-Targaryen, Rationally, which since we can convince ourselves, or be convinved of anything, is always suspect, or instinctually, instinct is exclusively in the service of survival, trust your instincts!
I feel it too.
When it is over the world will look quite different.
World War One was also such a turning point.
That was saw 2 old world powers disappear.
After it was over the Ottoman Empire and the Austria-Hungarian Empire gone.
The flights will go across Iranian airspace. I think that was the plan all along, Moscow asked for permission just to see who and how is going to react to it.
And then where, over the largely uncontrolled areas in northern Iraq?
I've been saying for years Putin needs to complete the land bridge to Iran via Georgia and Azerbaijan, taking control of the Caucasus oil fields, the port of Baku, and then he will sit astride nearly all existing paths of energy flow from east to west. This is why he will NEVER give up Sevastopol, or Iran, and I'd be shocked as hell if he allowed Syria to go. It is why Turkey has always had my interest, and why it is in play and will remain so.
https://www.google.com/search?q=caucasus+oil+fields+map&tbm=isch&imgil=r...
Here's a link to an Iranian press.tv site with more details:
Russia to bypass Greek airspace for aid flights to Syria: Report
Kurds have no reason to fuck with the Russians, so there's the air route into Syria.
Kurds have a very good reason to give permission to Russia.
They are fighting ISIS and can only benefit from Russian involvement.
your right...and it will be Russia allied with Iran to confront Saudi Arabia Turkey and Israel(USA) Maybe the Chinese side in with Russia or go for sloppy seconds.
Russia gets Iran and China gets Saudi Arabia once the US is no longer king of the sandbox.
Unfortunately, for Americans, the perverted relationship between Washington and Tel Aviv will be allowed to continue...
"Never bother your enemy when the fucker is making mistakes."
-some French dude
Damn, I've spent way too much time here over the years...
2 decembre 1805 08:25 CET - right flank rope a dope in the morning mist (as opposed to the dawn's early light)...
--Crazy Corsican Sun Tsu in re taking the Pratzen Heights at Austerlitz
it's amazing what they don't bother to tell you at Wikipedia (since I couldn't remember the precise time) or in modern textbooks, or perhaps it's the lack of memorization drills and teachers who can cane their students for failure - and I'm not even 50 years old yet... so it's not that long ago
(the entire euro ZH crowd must have started happy hour early again)
The borders of Iran & Syria are about 140 miles apart.
The flights would have to cross Iraq as well.
I know. Iraq borders Turkey to the north. It's almost a straight line, flying over it would cause incursion into both Iraqi and Turkish airspace. I doubt any of the countries mentioned would engage an airplane so close to the border. Then, perhaps there are agreements we do not know anything about. It's risky, but beyond few diplomatic notes, I do not think it would cause a major scandal, especially if both countries deliberately choose to look the other way at a specific moment. It's not like they are going to fly with their ADS-B transponders turned on, so you can track them realtime on flightradar.
Iraq has been buying weapons from Russia. They have been buying quite a few things including tanks. The Russian stuff is cheaper and more reliable. The USA M1 Abrams is easily defeated with 1970s Russian Tula built anti-tank missiles.
Bioscale below mentioned the tank sales by Russia to Iraq, I see below. Russia also provided Su-25 Frogfoots to Iraq for ground support recently.
If you are Iraqis - who would you trust? I think Iraq will let Russia overfly Iraq.
I can't see how the Iraqis would EVER trust Uncle Sam ever again. With anything. Can anyone think of a nation that was as undeservedly raped and murdered as this one? Over the course of DECADES?
They may well go over Iran and Iraq. I could see that not being a serious diplomatic issue for Putin.
That Bulgaria refused is about as surprising as finding out there are prostitutes in Foggy Bottom. Bulgaria, basket case that it is and has been since it came into the Westphalian nation state scene, has been under US dominion for a while. I went to college with one man from Bulgaria: great guy, hard worker, but he fell for the 'US is our friend' nonsense.
Flying fighters and bombers from Kaliningrad to Syria, you would want to take the Bulgarian route. If Sofia is dumb enough to trust Uncle Sam and block Russia, this does create a headache for Putin.
But it will only be a delay; Russia will get their aircraft there. Then the fun begins as US/Israel's ISIS gets dismembered.
Major Edit: Crimea would be the likely staging ground for aircraft. Bulgaria would be blocking country on that route.
I don't know what map you are looking at but there is only one country between Crimea and Syria and that is Turkey.
That and Bulgarian airspace would be a non starter to begin with....has anyone ever looked at map? They can also "thread the needle" on the bosphorous straits, contrary to popular brainwashing, american pilots aren't the only capable ones out there....
Also as stated Iranian airpsace, and then Kurdish controlled airspace....and who we kidding, no one is going to shoot down Russian planes, the paper tiger known as ZATO sure as shit won't get a spine...they're good at parades and bombing tiny isolated countries....for fucks sake even the "mighty" us military could barely beat a bunch of cave dwelling camel fuckers in Afghanistan....
Fuck - this is getting serious. Can real war be far behind?
I doubt, as others already mentioned Russians can use Iran's and Iraq's air space, they were just testing how long it takes US motherfuckers to block them.
How can they use Iraq's space when Iraq is still controlled by the US?
Russia got snookered and shit is getting real.
Let's see how much is Iraq controlled by US. Btw you should know Russians delivered tanks to Iraq last year.
If USA leans on Iraq like it has on other countries, do you think Iraq will deny US requests? Seems to me that Russias only choices are to back down or cross some red lines thereby risking war.
Can Iraq deny anybody anything in its northern part which is controlled by ISIS?
in truth this is the new "real war". currency wars. proxy wars. surreptitious attacks on key targets.
the US cannot drum up the national support and ra-ra USA bullshit to attack even syria, much less iran, russia, or china, absent "a pearl harbor like event".
i am no military expert but from listening to those better informed than me (and from our recent blunders in the ME), it seems clear that the US is in no position for a full scale ground war against iran, much less china or russia.
that leaves nuclear war, which for the time being is off the table--or at least one would hope--and the aforemtioned new normal "real wars"
War in Syria is heating up
Amid refugee crisis in Europe, NATO powers prepare war escalation in Syria
By Alex Lantier
8 September 2015
Even as hundreds of thousands of refugees stream into Europe from the Middle East, Africa and the Balkans, the NATO powers are preparing to escalate the war in Syria, which has already driven millions to flee their homes. On Monday, Paris and London both announced plans to step up the bombing of Syria, with French President François Hollande calling for the ouster of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
Speaking at a nationally televised press conference, Hollande announced that French fighters would begin flying surveillance missions over Syria. While these missions will ostensibly target Islamic State (IS) militia forces, the central aim of the escalation is the overthrow of Assad.
The Elysée presidential palace let it be known that Hollande’s plan was to “neutralize” Assad. During the press conference, Hollande insisted that Assad’s departure from power was “necessary,” and that “Syrian rebels must play their role” in a post-Assad government.
As the “rebels” are anti-Assad Sunni Islamist militias funded by the CIA and Persian Gulf sheikhdoms, one must assume that the fate Hollande intends for Assad is similar to that of Muammar Gaddafi after NATO-backed Islamists toppled his regime in Libya in 2011. He was tortured and murdered by militiamen in the bombed-out remains of his hometown of Syrte. Libya has since sunk into a horrific civil war between rival Islamist militias.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/09/08/syri-s08.html
justobserving, i dont argue that the war is escalating, but with resepct to syria the US govt/nato is still acting under the pretext that they are there to fight ISIS or provide our standard "freedom/humanitarian" bombs. there is no more "we need to remove sadaam" type explicit stating of goals, at least not yet in the US. when that was the stated goal last year with the entire sarin gas propaganda bullshit campaign there was a lot of pushback amongst the public in the US.
"when that was the stated goal last year with the entire sarin gas propaganda bullshit campaign there was a lot of pushback amongst the public in the US."
Sadly, the most important words in this sentence are "last year". People in the US have the attention span of a gnat, and as such, last year is now ancient history, completely forgotten. As long as MSM is still the dominant storyline - which so far as I can tell it still is for a strong majority - TPTB just need to be creative in manufacturing the 'right' excuse. They want Syria. They want it bad. And people are not yet awake enough to be pissed off enough to stop TPTB from manipulating them into the most destructive confrontation the world will ever see.
"...And people are not yet awake enough to be pissed off enough to stop TPTB from manipulating them into the most destructive confrontation the world will ever see..."
SofaPapa - tip for ya - the 'people' aren't too bright. Don't wait too long for the 'pissed off' part - it's not happening. Example:
TEHRAN (FNA)- Photo journalists have moved the dead body of the Kobani child refugee to a better location for photos. [PHOTO]
The MSM doesn't even try to hide their BS. The sad truth is most people are either too stuipd or just DON'T CARE.
There seems to be pressure building for sure.
Ukraine, Greece, Syrian refugee crisis and now Bulgaria showing it's hand.
Pressure has got to be released somewhere me thinks.
Cyber-based support system shutdowns are the new nukes, and I have no doubt there is a MAD doctrine associated with its use. You shut down my power systems, I shut down yours.
Think of the chaos that would ensue from shutting down water to NYC. These soft systems are everywhere and cannot be protected. They show how mad these motherfucking sociopaths are who think they have to control everything, and who put everything at risk so they can try to do so.
Better get that water purification equip. now so you can go down to the East River and get your daily supply of water. Oh yeah, don't forget your gun for protection. You are about to get a third world experience.
Could NYC stink even more?
I doubt it.
Go for it and shut down their water.
and bulgar's will stop the flights ,How? gambling was illegal in Rick's place as well so it never happened.
NATO
No doubt Rita Katz was whispering in the ear of someone.
Or was it that fat guy in London who is the "Syrian Opposition?"
Think we shall call him Grima Wormtongue.
pods
Bulgarian politicians' Swiss bank accounts just got alot fatter.
They are politicians, the only thing that changes is the direction the deposits come from....
Amazing the power of the Jewish Lobby over the US. Imagine if Putin blocked US shipments of armaments and so forth to Israel?
Who could attack in NEUTRAL WATERS, a United States Navy ship killing 34 sailors and wounding 134 more, and MACHINE-GUNNING the life rafts and GET AWAY WITH IT?
Yep, our "ally" Israel:
http://www.ussliberty.org/index2.html
i don't think i can name a single other country that has multiple dual citizens in positions of power in the US. oh also in the EU, UK, france, germany, italy, spain, ukraine, etc etc. apart from israeli dual citizens, the only recent one in the US i can think of is schwarzennager. does he count? that's all i got off the top of my head.
Global Elite Multiculturalism at its Finest.
Ukraine does not have dual citizens in positions of power. something in their Constitution. They did however give foreigners Ukrainian citizenship in a hurry to get them into government. One of them was an American. She had to renounce her US citizenship.
It will be interesting what happens when she wants to come back.
There are specific laws about those that renounced. For example they are no longer eligible to own firearms.
What is the difference between all the super powers of the world MIC?
LOL at the agenda on ZH. Great job Tyler selling out!!!!!!
+++pods
double post - DEL
Bulgaria Denies Airspace to Russian Aid Flights to Syria http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150908/1026732699.html
Athens Says Russia No Longer Needs Greek Airspace for Aid Flights to Syria http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150908/1026728926.html
I am sure the US must have threatened to occupy Bulgaria with its ONE brigade of combat forces on the continent of Europe.
Surely the wave of refugees could not have anything to do with it.
(SARC)
Wonder how long it will take for Italy to deny overflight to similar US flights?
Surely, it will then be because Russia threatened to turn off their gas. Again the wave of refugees could have nothing to do with it.
(SARC)
Wearing your team jersey is fine...just not on your head. It interferes with vision.
I suppose thins means no gas for Bulgaria. Being a US vassal state is always a bitch in the long run.
Leaves a, how do you say, "bad taste" in your mouth.
pods
I'm sure Bulgarian Joe Six Pack today hangs his head in shame. Russians are exulted in Bulgarian history & culture. Their national anthem states that Moscow is with us during peace & war...
It's not just gazprom. Syria is extremely important for Russia. If Syria is very unstable, all that social unrest and war can spread to Armedia and Azerbajan, and that would cause serious problems form Russia. The caucasus has been a very volatile region, and we even had a war for a few days last year between Armenia and Azerbajan. I bet Putin doesn't want more destabilization in that region. We started seeing a lot of tension on that area, with more frequent terrorist attacks in Turkey, now Turkey attacking Iraq, social unrest in Lebnon and the refugees crisis in the EU.
My bet is that Russia said enough is enough, and instead of threatening with war, like the US and the EU did 2 years ago, he just didn't say anything and started moving troops over there.
Once Russia gets involved, it's pretty much game over for ISIS, FSA and the rest of terrorists (or as the US says, "rebels").
Interesting that you make it Russia's problem because of the Caucasus rather than Turkey's or Iran's, both of whom stand between Syria and the Caucasus.
Not to mention that the Caucasus are their own countries. What are they supposed to be? Good little serfs doing only what people thousands of miles to the North want??
As with the US in South America...as soon as you justify action based on 'influence' rather than direct effect, you're on a sliding slope where ANYTHING can be said to create a destabilizing influence.
What then? Then there are no standards of behavior, and we live by tooth and claw.
Look how far the USA is from everything yet causes problems.
I believe that was exactly the point I was making. No?
So the activity which means the US is bad...is good when done by Russians???
NO!
The big difference is that Russia is not trying to destabilize a nation and overthrow its government. Quite the opposite -they are assisting the legit government of a nation against mostly foreign forces.
As to their reasons for doing so, I haven't a clue and will not speculate.
What would the US do if Russia armed and financed terrorists in Mexico, which then launched a war against the democratically elected government? Don't you think they would react somehow?
And we are talking about Mexico, which has more in common with Spain than with the US. Anyway, it could be a serious risk for the US.
You would have me declare the US bad for doing a thing...but declare Russia good for doing the exact same thing.
The answer is no.
Either both are bad. Or both are good.
As I know politicians, the first is more likely.
Deal with it.
Well, firstly that, exactly that HAS HAPPENED.
Secondly, Syria does not border Russia, but Mexico does border the US. Rather different, no?
Thirdly, Russia has financed revolutions and Terrorists in Columbia, Nicaragua, etc. (one country removed from the US, though syria is several countries removed from Russia).
Fourthly, if it is wrong it is wrong for everyone. If it is right for Russia, then it is right for the US and you have nothing to bitch about.
I simply think it is wrong. Both the US assholes and the Russian assholes should get the hell out of Syria.
Sorry, but exactly what year did Russia finance all these revolutions in central and south America?
I am pretty sure that you are confusing Russia with the Soviet Union. It is not the same thing even though ignorant fucks like to lump them together. With the exception of
Gorbachev all the USSR leaders since WWII were not Russian.
Russia was only its biggest republic.
Stalin who was probably one of the most blood thirsty people in the 20th century was Georgian.
Not to mention that the Caucasus are their own countries. What are they supposed to be? Good little serfs doing only what people thousands of miles to the North want??
They are already condemned to sucking dick, I'm afraid. They might as well suck the benevolent dick, not the one that will thrown them under the bus if there's a sliver of profit in it.
EDIT: also, there is a concept of peaceful cooperation. You know, doing what 's good for both sides. States of the Caucasus might try that instead of selling out to their "friends" half the fucking workld away.
How long did it take Russia to defeat Afghanistan? Are there any more rebels in Chechnya?
It's possible that some of the wars, regardless of who the participants are, serve only to fatten the wallets of the MIC and banksters.
You missed the point. Russia and Syria have been allies for a long time. Assad, you like him or not, was elected democratically. You can't just change regimens whenever you want.
Russia held some talks between the syrian government, the opposition and the rebels last January. It was not formally a peace conference, they just wanted to know "who defends what, and who is behind who"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/29/us-syria-crisis-moscow-talks-i...
So, you can't say that they haven't tried to solve the problem in any other way.
Regarding chechnya, yes, they have terrorists over there, and they are acting accordingly. More important, the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, musilim himself, has expressed publicly that those ISIS militants threatening Russia and the caucasus are not Muslims, and if they happen to pose a threat to Russia, he will personally lead the operation to liquidate them.
Learn your history, the real history of that war, then correct that comment.
Exactement. Let the chess master class begin.
In 1947-48 the US defied a similar restriction set by the Soviets. No war followed, and West Berlin survived.
Will Bulgaria actually send fighters to intercept these cargo planes? I doubt it. Would the USAF come to the aid of its NATO ally? I doubt that too.
But, will the Russians call their bluff? I doubt that also.
Cargo will arrive by ship. There the Israelis will blow it up once it leaves the Russian ships....unless Russians escort the cargo all the way to distribution centers. I can't imagine Israel attacking Russians.
Let's see, Russia supports the guy who wears a suit and tie and protects Christians from radical Islam.
The U.S. and Europe support radical Islamic militants killing Christians and subjugating Women.
Odd, is it not?
Its because USA and Europe take orders from the ZioNazis of Tel Aviv.
Heil Bibi
And what if it is really the Queen of England?
Bulgaria met a bear.
The bear was bulgy,
The bulge was Bulgaria.
(forgive me Ogden Nash)
Putin needs to start renditioning these neo-con war mongering savages. Give 'em the worst of what they've done to others.
And suppose it is really the Brits? Israel is a British creation. The Balfor Declaration.
Britain's been run by the Rothschild cabal for a few hundred years now.
Since 1694.
please let them start with Victoria Nuland, please let them start with Victoria Nuland, please let them start with Victoria Nuland, please let them start with Victoria Nuland, please let them start with Victoria Nuland, please let them start with Victoria Nuland, please let them start with Victoria Nuland, please let them start with Victoria Nuland,
That is future Secretary of State Nuland to you, peasant.
She is odds on favorite to be at State in either a Hellary or Jeb Presidency.
The US is itching for a fight it won't win. Read and contemplate. Russia is claiming Syrian airspace, all of it and they will shoot any one down that deviates from official permission. Flight 007.
Global oligarchs playing global games. Nothing new under the sun people, would be nice of the bread and circuses got better...
All these bloated governments and bankers are collapsing under their own weight.
Let me be clear, fuck em.
(regardless of their country of origin)
Greece could have had a future working with Russia. The Greeks have no future now. They are just slaves like the rest of the people of the West.
I an;t believe anyone listens to a thing Obama says just because he is the President. Clearly he is a fucking moron that is leading the world to doom.
Clearly, he is a narcissistic puppet leading noone except the truly duped.
The "truly duped" describes over half of my country.
Little bitch-ass, U.S. cock-sucking, filthy shithole Bulgarians...In the event of WWIII I hope they're the first country to be wiped off the face of the Earth.
I was there in '04 (Byala) , even thought about buying a place there, glad I didn't, it looked nice, but stank of raw sewage. Filthy fucking shithole of a kip.
Hairy fucking women 'n all.
/rant off
MAFIA MOTHERFUCKERS! i hope Russia shits down their throat!
Does a bear shit in the woods?
Wait – you aren't attracted to hairy women? Good. More for me to select from.
But where do you draw the line? Nipple hair?
Nah – that's acceptable. Anything more than a light moustache, though...
I had every intention of up voting your screed until you slagged hairy women.
The hairier the merrier has always been my motto
Easy on the Bulgarian hate.
A lot of normal folks in Bulgaria feel close to Russia. It however doesn't help the population that their government keeps on being reshuffled every year with mini "maidans".
The Bulgarian people can probably be one of the first to atest on how the EU raped their agricultural /live stock/technology sectors.
Just a pawn in a large game.
I know that heavy drinking is a popular pastime in Russia, but any Russian navigator who needed to get from Russia to Syria and had to fly over Bulgarian and Greek airspace would be hitting the bottle big time!
Fuck the current pro-EU boot licking Bulgarian government.
The government in Bulgaria already shot itself in the foot by torpedoing South Stream at the behest of the Brussels and Washington, what did they get in return for that favor? Nothing.
yeah you nailed it. An absolute disgrace how all these countries bow and scrape before Brussels & Washington, usually to the detriment of their own people. Just be good little running dogs and you'll get a nice pat on the head and a cushy Eurocrat job somewhere down the line.
Yes, a Bulgarian eurodeputy makes more than the president or the Prime minister. Corruption through the EU "aid" programmes. For sure the Bulgarian elites love the West.
The Euro is just too tempting for poorer countries. It's a ponzi scheme like all the others.
Spot on.
Bulgaria just getting even for the cancellation of the pipeline.
Q: Bulgaria just getting even for the cancellation of the pipeline.
A: Actually it was Bulgaria that blocked the pipeline
da but still ordered to get even
You are speaking with a fool; what do you expect? Make no mistake...the little boy living his mom's basement is a real fool.
Go tell it to Jesus you goddam fucktard!!
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b7h6bqkvl46q7vj/AAD3yL68363n_qDF2qacfuXta?dl=0
Dude, simmer down and take your meds. It's so easy to see when you aren't getting your lithium.
Would you climb into the oven and clean it for me?
Says the moron who believes the Buybull fairytale and that the universe was ''created by some guy in the sky'
LOL. You are a true idiot.
BTW, you fucking MORON I am almost 70 and have more time flying than you have being alive
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jpxu5qgubsoacn9/AIRCRAF6.JPG?dl=0
Tell you what you son of a bitch idiot. I have free flight benefits world wide. Give me time and place and I will come over and discuss it wiith you.
Tell you what you son of a bitch idiot. I have free flight benefits world wide. Give me time and place and I will come over and discuss it wiith you.
youre too old and pissed for flying anyway
Kim Davis, the Kentucky county clerk who was jailed last week after she defied a court’s order that she issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, was ordered released on Tuesday.
This is being stirred up to get the buy-bull bangers (May be the reason that chorus replaced Jesus with Hillary in that gospel song) and the gays all hot and bothered for next year's elections.
If Kim Davis feels that her religion prohibits giving marriage licenses to gays the proper response is to refer the gays to another clerk, or for Kim to change jobs. But belief in the cosmic Jewish zombie, talking snakes, and magic apples has no place in civil society or its laws.
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THE EU ACTUALLY
Bulgaria simply taking order from the elders of zion.
FUCK BULGARIA AND THEIR MAFIA GOVERMENT!
I am not commenting on Bulgarian actions. I am wondering how many of you have ever even been there? ZH is full of "experts" who "know" but who in many cases have never left the US. I personally have been to Sofia several times for weeks, beginning in the mid 90's. It's really quite nice. On my first visit 20 years ago all of the young people I met were looking to the west not the east, those people are the decision makers now. I'm not sure they love the Russians like some other posters have stated, I still think there are some bad memories...
Someone who had been to Bulgaria in the early 00's said was like Miami Vice meets the Soviet Union lol