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Angry Mobs Torch Kurdish Offices, Shops As Turkey Descends Into Chaos

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History is replete with examples of US-backed world leaders oppressing their people with Washington’s implicit blessing and despite the fact that the eyes of the world are trained squarely on Syria and, by extension, on any neighboring country that has a role to play in determining the outcome of the Syrian civil war, Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan has managed to orchestrate a political coup of epic proportions in plain sight by plunging his people into civil war as NATO looks the other way. 

What Erdogan has done, in the space of just three months, is nullify a democratic election outcome by first obstructing efforts to form a coalition government on the way to calling for new elections, then launching a military campaign against the PKK, knowing full well that if enough people are killed between now and the time Turks return to the ballot box in November, the public’s negative perception of the PKK will likely translate to diminished support for the pro-Kurdish HDP, which was in part responsible for AKP losing its absolute parliamentary majority in June. 

This is all possible because Erdogan was effectively allowed to trade access to Incirlik (which gives the US army a forward operating base for what will eventually be a ground incursion in Syria) for NATO’s acquiescence to the extermination of the Kurdish opposition in Turkey. 

As of Tuesday, this deal had resulted in: 1) hundreds of people killed, 2) the arrest of journalists, 3) the collapse of the lira, 4) a Turkish invasion of Northern Iraq (the fifth in two decades), and 5) no perceptible progress in the “fight” against ISIS which was the pretext for the entire effort.

For anyone who needed further proof that Erdogan won’t stop until his pro-Kurdish political opposition is wiped out entirely, consider the following from FT who reports that “a mob of several thousand people” set HDP’s Ankara headquarters on fire, sending party officials fleeing “across rooftops.” Here’s the story:

A mob of several thousand set fire to the offices of Turkey’s main pro-Kurdish party in the wake of terror attacks in which more than 100 soldiers and police officers have died.

 

Officials from the Peoples Democratic party, or HDP, fled for safety across rooftops after the mob shouting nationalist slogans torched the party’s headquarters in Ankara.

 

HDP branches in many other cities, including the southern tourist resort of Alanya and Kirsehir in the west, were also attacked and set alight.

 

In Istanbul about 100 people hurled stones at the main offices of Hurriyet, the secularist newspaper that has been critical of the Islamist-rooted government. They shouted slogans accusing the newspaper of supporting terrorism in the second such assault in 48 hours.

 

Selahattin Demirtas, the HDP’s joint leader, said: “Over the past two days more than 400 party offices, workplaces and businesses have been attacked.

 

“People have been pulled off buses and beaten, people walking in the street have been attacked. This is a lynch campaign, gangs are being paid to conduct these attacks and the state is behind it.”

And it wasn't just HDP offices and press outlets that were attacked, Hurriyet (which, as noted above, has been besieged by protesters for two consecutive days) reports that Kurdish businesses were torched as well: 

A number of anti-terror marches in Turkey turned violent late Sept. 8, with ultranationalist protesters attacking the headquarters of the Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP) in Ankara, as well as its office in another Central Anatolian province.

 

In the neighboring province of K?r?ehir, the HDP’s local office was attacked by another group as its flag was lowered and replaced by a Turkish flag during a march by Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) supporters entitled “Damn Terrorism.”

 

The march turned violent when around 150 people in the crowd set fire to four shops owned by Kurdish businessmen, according to Turkish media.

 

 

The fire, which destroyed the four shops, was put out by fire brigades without causing casualties.

Then there's this rather disconcerting account of protests in Beypazar?:

Meanwhile, a public anti-terror protest in the Beypazar? district of Ankara late on Sept. 7 turned into a lynch attempt against Kurdish seasonal workers, leaving 27 people injured. 

 

Police arrested nine protestors in relation to the attack in Beypazar?, which is less than a one-hour drive to Ankara and is seen as one of the capital’s most popular touristic spots.  

 

Around 500 people had gathered in the center of Beypazar? in order to protest the killing of 16 troops by the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) in the Da?l?ca district of the southeastern province of Hakkari. The group marched through the town against the recent attacks, chanting slogans against the PKK. The route of the march took the group through the Zafer neighborhood of the district, which is mostly populated by Kurdish seasonal workers.   

 

After some protestors said some locals in the Zafer neighborhood threw stones at the protest, the crowd started to attack houses where Kurdish citizens live. Some of them also tried to set alight houses and cars in the area. 

Here are some visuals from the chaos:

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So all in all, just another day in a democratic paradise run by a US-backed despot. 

We'll close with the following excerpt from WSJ's summary of Europe's new plan to cope with the flow of asylum seekers from the Mid-East:

The European Commission is proposing to put Turkey on a list of “safe countries of origin,” which would fast-track repatriation for people denied asylum. 

 

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Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:24 | 6526993 I AM SULLY
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Totally ... America is totally safe from social disruption and collapse.

(Now ... where's my cocaine?)

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:28 | 6526997 hedgeless_horseman
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“People have been pulled off buses and beaten, people walking in the street have been attacked. This is a lynch campaign, gangs are being paid to conduct these attacks and the state is behind it.”

His name was Reginald Denny.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:29 | 6527026 eatthebanksters
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Obama has once again shown that his adminstration is ahead of the game and that his foreign policy is the best ever...fuck me!

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:37 | 6527061 Bokkenrijder
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Looks like yet another 'successful' Turkish application for EU/SSR membership.

Fascist Ukrainian warmongers, ISIS terrorists disguised as refugees, corrupt countries like Romania, Moldavia and Georgia and the islamofascist regime of Erdogan: all are welcome in the EU in order to create the True European Socialist Workers Paradise!

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:52 | 6527126 38BWD22
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Ahh, it looks to me like France was smart a few years ago to deny Turkish entrance into Europe...  

How about that?

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:02 | 6527171 Pool Shark
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Well, that pretty much does it for 'stable' Islamic Democracies:

 

Now there aren't any...

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:14 | 6527233 hedgeless_horseman
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Well, that pretty much does it for 'stable' Islamic Democracies:

I am lamenting the end of our Constitutional Republic that was founded on Judaeo-Christian values.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:42 | 6527415 COSMOS
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Obviously now that he gates to Europe are wide open, the Turks want to kick all the Kurds into Europe.  They have already kicked out most of the Syrians out of Syria.  Its all about extending the borders of Turkey and squashing any dissent.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:22 | 6527604 SWRichmond
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Q 1.   _________ is the health of the state (5 points)

 

a.  War

b.  Human Misery

c.  Violence

d.  Theft

e.  Divide and Conquer

f.  Propaganda

g.  Fear

h.  all of the above

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:29 | 6527650 Son of Loki
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<< I am lamenting the end of our Constitutional Republic that was founded on Judaeo-Christian values. >>

 

HH, better start learning the Koran ... in Spanish!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:26 | 6533158 mkkby
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Where did all you jade helm screamers go?  I thought we were all supposed to be rounded up in fema camps by now.  C'mon -- let's hear it.  Admit you were lying to stir up some shit of your own.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:10 | 6531188 KanKhaderKhanKan
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I think of all the posters you the closest to the truth. Erdogan is devious, wanting to kick out the Kurds and send them to Europe? Well guess what not so long ago the PYG (the Syrian branch of PKK) in Afrin (a Kurdish enclave in north-western Syria) warned its residents not to leave Afrin or it would alter the demographics (e.g. make it more arab) of that province. Now I've read alot of what posters have to say about the nature of the Syrian conflict and the machinations of neighbours like Turkey have had on that country but very few posters have seemed to realise that the prolongation of this conflict suits many parties: for the Saudis it gives them a chance to give the Iranians a bloody nose, for the Qataris it makes their trans-national gaspipeline plan that much real, for the Turks it gives them a chance to create a Turkish ecnomic sphere of influence in northern Syria as well as a possibility to contain PKK ambitions, for Israelis this conflict gives them an opportunity to bleed Hezbollah slowly and maybe weaken the latter sufficently that the Israelis can seize the Litani river: furthermore this conflict will only end once one or all of these players believe THEIR aims (note not the displaced Syrian refugee aims) are satisfied and not a day earlier. I believe the introduction of Russian troops is Putin way of intimidating these parties to back-off or escalate the conflict further. Either way expect to see even more horrific pictures of drowned toddlers and weeping refugees.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:38 | 6527391 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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There is no such things as stable democracy, democracy is mob rule and the lowest common denominator rule so they are very unstable by nature...

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:26 | 6527579 GoinFawr
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<- anarchy FTMFW!

<-- elected legislative ass'y

 

Actually 'democracy' is very stable when mitigated by a just constitution, but that reality aside I am guessing you and your upvoters must have an infinitely superior suggestion in mind; care to share it with everyone?

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 15:58 | 6528011 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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Personally (it engage only me here), I choose:

1) The Blockchain (and a pair of keys).

2) Some PM's as cash/savings in hand.

3) Some decentralization.

4) Leave alone myself and my (red pill) GF...

5) The only amount of statism that I can tolerate is about promoting some good mores and conservatism/traditionalism among the general population to preserve the Nation and avoid an inevitable moral decay.

6) Very important ! Not screwing men in society anymore in fact even favoring them, if not you will have horde of Galt and MGTOW (and I look the Internet often, this movement is spreading like hell nothing can stop them, too late the red pill is out of the box !).

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 16:05 | 6528235 GoinFawr
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"The only amount of statism that I can tolerate is about promoting some good mores and conservatism/traditionalism among the general population to preserve the Nation and avoid an inevitable moral decay."

"some decentralization"

I see, so it appears you're in favour of some sort of elected legislative assembly after all then, not to mention the state's authourity to 'preserve' the nation's 'good mores'. 

Hunh, that sounds a lot like a constitutionally mitigated democratic state to me....

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 16:18 | 6528333 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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I don't believe in vote especially universal suffrage...

 

Aside that, I may agree with you on the constitutional republic thing (like the Good Old US of A).

Some trade-off between liberty, conservatism/traditionalism and decentralization must be found...

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 18:26 | 6528431 GoinFawr
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"I don't believe in vote especially universal suffrage"

Ah, so you believe in the political principle of "Money Talks" then; not exactly meritocratic if one inherits their property, is it?

If so, in my opinion Money Talks is the bane of constitutionally mitigated democracies, rather than the inclusion of women and the 'unpropertied' in the vote.

Be careful you're not using the MGTOW premise as a divisively selfish excuse to deny inherent existential obligations, responsibilities and debt to, Eg. those who raised and cared for you all those years you spent as a helpless diaper baby... unless of course you are the only man ever born of woman who dropped outta his momma and hit the ground running.

'decentralization' of power is crucial, I agree. A system that can't be destroyed by targeting a single part of it is far more robust than one that can, agreed.

Wealth is power, btw.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 20:46 | 6529316 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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I ma not sure to understand the middle part about the MGTOW thing but it sound mangina here.

The rest of your comment is interesting.

About "money Talk" in China they say: "no money, no talk" some kind of universal truth, hedge accordingly.

Sat, 09/12/2015 - 13:55 | 6539791 GoinFawr
Thu, 09/10/2015 - 04:58 | 6530361 Urban Redneck
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Why don't you come back and say that again when your country is 700 years old...

You got fed a bunch of propganada in Ancient History/Philospohy 101 and your mind has never recovered.

Any government structure has the possibility of sliding into tyranny.  Plato and Aristotle disagreed on the ideal form of government, but since all oligarchs (from Obozo to Bibi to Vlad to Xi) seem hell bent on pushing a variant of Plato's version, perhaps you should ask yourself why?  (And perhaps take a 200-level refresher course.)

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:05 | 6527182 BarkingCat
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Turkey does not belong in the EU. They may occupy a slither of European land but they are not European.

Also while Europe has many different cultures that are not as far apart from each other as that of Turkey.

Not that any of this matters because it is pretty obvious that European culture and civilization is in its last days.... unless the people revolt and hung the current crop of politicians.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:15 | 6527244 froze25
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I truly hope the people of Europe Wake up and see that their "leaders" are selling them out big time.  They need to secure their boarders and start having babies fast.  Only Russia to my knowledge has a very aggressive state policy encouraging child birth.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:42 | 6527416 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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They need to secure their boarders and start having babies fast.

 

It won't happen, I am sure at 99% unless we push back some 70 years of progressive and feminist policies, laws and culture in the West.

Let it burn !

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:16 | 6527251 Hmmmmm
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You can say that again!

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:06 | 6527513 Nobody For President
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OK.

Let it Burn!

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:05 | 6527183 BarkingCat
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Turkey does not belong in the EU. They may occupy a slither of European land but they are not European.

Also while Europe has many different cultures that are not as far apart from each other as that of Turkey.

Not that any of this matters because it is pretty obvious that European culture and civilization is in its last days.... unless the people revolt and hung the current crop of politicians.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:19 | 6527205 Bokkenrijder
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How about that?

Well, France has a big enough muslim problem of it's own with fanatical Algerians and Moroccans running around. Letting more Turks and Kurds into their country (and thus the EU/SSR) might be the straw that broke the camel's back and sets off a multi-cultural powder keg. Politically speaking, it would be suicide at the moment  for the EU to allow Turkey membership, but over time they will push it through regardless of what the voters think.

As Jean-Claude Juncker said: "We decide on something, leave it lying around and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don't understand what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back."

And Dutch politician, self-confesed Eurofascist and future dictator Alexander Pechtold said: "Europe is too complicated for the people to decide on."

p.s. in the Netherlands, a popular website called www.geenstijl.nl it trying to gather enough signatures in order to force a referendum about various 'free-trade' agreements between Moldavia, Ukraine and Georgia. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#newwindow=1&q=geenstijl.nl+geenpeil

They need 300k signatures by the end of this month, so far they have 140k. I hope they will achieve the 300k, because the outcome of a referendum will be a true shocker, just like the 2005 Dutch referendum about the introduction of the EU constitution, whereby >60% voted NO. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_European_Constitution_referendum,_2005

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 17:42 | 6528734 HERC2
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How about France denied sh*t a few years ago !

(BTW : the negotiation process, preceding, an eventual integration process is a very long one – decades time span – and is also a European process à part entière, so France can not deny anything by itself on this issue (european countries' sovereignty and legal power is long gone, as you may have heard on MSNBruxelles, it has been transferred to the Mothership our technocrats worship).

You should also remember the very pro-Turkey attitude of french presidents lately (with the exception of Nicolas Sarkozy) : Remember Jacques Chirac praising Turkey and stating that « the roots of Europe are as much muslim as they are christian »... and all that pre-Alzheimer nonsense.

And what about Herr Dogan stating, in January 2014, when Hollande was visiting his country (the 1st time in 22 years for a french president), that « since Hollande is President, France has a very positive attitude regarding the negotiation process ».

So... no... not really...

 

 

 

 

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:32 | 6527041 TBT or not TBT
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More wacky third world antics.  The west must open its doors so we can enjoy this on the local news.  

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:38 | 6527066 coinhead
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Turkey is not teh "third world".

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:42 | 6527088 TBT or not TBT
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Third world values get you third world results.   You dont stray off the beaten path much I would have to guess.  

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:45 | 6527098 0b1knob
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You keep misspelling "turd" world.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:46 | 6527103 N2OJoe
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Could have fooled me.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:39 | 6527073 the phantom
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Let's agree that Turkey never had a good civil rights/humanitarian record... ever. Their history is replete with genocide and barbarism.  It's like saying the sky is blue... redundant.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:45 | 6527099 TBT or not TBT
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Yeah but they have very toned buttocks and thighs from their regular workouts on those squatting toilets.   

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:26 | 6527323 PTR
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*COUGH*armeniangenocide*COUGH*

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:51 | 6527455 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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Say the Yankee who exterminated nearly all the Native American (Indian) and traded slaves !

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 16:22 | 6528357 TBT or not TBT
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Sigh, there was a huge slow burn die off underway for over a hundred years before any yankees arrived, that started with the arrival of Columbus.    Disease dlstroyed most of those tribes and cultures.   

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 19:09 | 6529086 IReallyDontCare
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Disease brought by the invaders that the natives had no natural defence against, .. Just sayin..

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:50 | 6527116 ajax
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The "ultranationalists" have adopted the tactics of 1920's/1930's Germany.

What's Turkish for Sturmabteilung?

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:25 | 6526998 Haus-Targaryen
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This will be great for the German refugee crisis. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:29 | 6527022 Syrin
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The best way to make sure a nation will take you in is to set the country on fire and commit crimes.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:41 | 6527045 Haus-Targaryen
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If Turkey goes the way of Syria, the only word for the refugee crisis in Germany would be Biblical.  

You'd have millions of people running as fast as they could.  Drop 10 million people into homonegous cultures and all hell will break lose.  

If this goes South, Europe turns into a WMD.  

The first Europen countries that start lynching arabs will have all the arabs fleeing running to countries that aren't lynching them -- yet.  

I figured for sure the race war would happen in the United STates, I never imagined in a million years it would fire up in Europe.  

Globalist Social Engineers sure are evil bastards.  

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:56 | 6527086 Paveway IV
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Maybe that's why the U.S. has its goons in Turkey planted in the anti-Kurd mobs - to start fires and incite violence, allowing the Xe/Academi snipers more opportunity to take out Turkish police, Turkish protestors, Kurds, etc.

This is actually a U.S. plot to overthrow Germany. Wake the fuck up and stop those madmen (I mean us) before Turkey goes up in flames and you lose Germany to invaders demanding free teeth!

And not to alarm you too much, but there were about 16 million Kurds in Turkey BEFORE the half-million Syrian Kurds and three million other Syrians fled there. Only 10 million 'guests' is excessively optomistic. I'm guessing you would have about 20 million just to start with. The U.S will promptly invade Syria if Turkey falls, so toss another four or five million on top of that. 

That's a lot of free teeth. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:06 | 6527180 Haus-Targaryen
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At that point -- 20 millionen Muzzies in Germany, I would be preying the Russians invade, because why the hell not.  Just take us out back and shoot us already.  

Berlin the new Istanbul.  
 
Press "1" for German
Press "2" for Turkish
Press "3" for Arabic
Press "4" for cultural Selbstmord.  

........................4   

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:18 | 6527256 Paveway IV
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How could Russia ever invade Germany in a few more months? I mean - physically. They wouldn't possibly fit - there's no more room.

The only way the Russian Army is getting in to Germany is if they sneak in early by applying for asylum now.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:31 | 6527357 PTR
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You mean Fulda Gap is no longer being watched?

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:44 | 6527427 fudge
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touché.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:09 | 6527529 Paveway IV
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The entire purpose of guarding the Fulda Gap from the spectre of Soviet invasion was to justify US/NATO military budgets during the cold war. I think they gave up on that back when I was in the service. They don't need to justify ANY military budgets now - they just take the money from me.

The Soviets certainly had the military might to invade Germany through the Fulda Gap - they just have never had any reason or desire to. NATO would have had to resort to a serous false flag to piss off the Soviets enough to attack West Germany, and I doubt they would have fallen for it.

The idea of modern Russia 'invading' Germany is beyond preposterous. Why the fuck would they ever even think of doing that? The possibility only exists in the wet dreams of ZATO war planners and the MIC who figure ZATO could still fight and win a conventional war.

ZATO can only use ground wars to bully weak, poor little conventionally-armed nations. Russia and China don't play that anymore.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 18:08 | 6528827 angel_of_joy
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Didn't you hear ? Fulda Gap is now watched by the Poles. Everybody is safe...

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:41 | 6527694 Paveway IV
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"...Press "4" for cultural Selbstmord..."

I didn't understand this at first. Google said 'Selbstmord' was a Polish heavy-metal band.

I finally realized that selbstmord is the German word for suicide. Thanks, internet!

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:46 | 6527107 post turtle saver
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well, the German police were getting out of practice with "whack-a-Turk", looks like those baton arms will be back in shape again real soon...

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:51 | 6527122 ajax
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Turkey will never go the way of Syria.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:54 | 6527132 Paveway IV
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You underestimate the U.S. State Department. Their fuck-ups are EPIC. If anyone could screw up Turkey, it's these guys.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:39 | 6527399 fudge
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they also get bonus points for block or limiting Russian acces to and from the Black Sea

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:16 | 6527572 Paveway IV
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First, that's against international agreements - the Bosphorus straits are treated like international waters. Second, Ankara is well within the range of a Russian TOPOL-M. That would be the expected response to Turkey or anyone else telling Russia they couldn't use the Bosphorus.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:09 | 6527213 viahj
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this is the latest effort in the planned full systemic collapse of all of the West.  the NWO have zombified the economies while stealing the wealth from the people and now they are collapsing the people through demographics.  this is the end game.  the police state will be kicked into high gear.  the West will no longer be able to ignore the tyranny imposed upon it.  game over. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:16 | 6527246 Blue Vervain
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I can't see Europeans resisting this - the path was set in motion long before the current refugee crisis which is simply an accelleration. In the UK even those offering verbal resistance to immigrants are now imprisoned, so the mildest resistance faces the full force of both the state, social stigma, national shaming via media, not to mention the retaliation of those they resist.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:14 | 6527239 Salah
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You're right

Why blame the USA for the Muslim autocrat Erdogan?  What the fuck can the USA do about it?  We didn't "put him in there" anymore than we "put Chavez & now Maduro in Venezuela".  Gimmeabreak.

Such fantasies

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:08 | 6527524 Neochrome
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For starters, US bombed Serbia for much, much less concerning Albanians in Kosovo. Rights that Albanians have had in Serbia at that time and what Kurds have in Turkey are not even close (what you say, Kurds are finally allowed to speak their own language? golf clap) 

Then again, bombing some rather small and defenseless country seems to be US favorite wag-the-dog activity...

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:29 | 6527016 JungleCat
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Watts riots in Los Angeles 1965. Rodney King riots in Los Angeles in 1992.

Time for anothe one.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:48 | 6527108 skeelos
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What the hell is wrong with those rioters?  It's almost like they don't even know Brady's suspension was lifted and he'll play against the Steelers.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:59 | 6527494 mygameon
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Seriously funny

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:24 | 6526994 Chad_the_short_...
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Not in all white areas but it will certainly happen in the niggers areas. ferguson and baltimore are pefect examples. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 15:17 | 6527921 NoPension
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Looks like Baltimore. Except for skin color .

I'm not joking.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:23 | 6526991 I AM SULLY
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A PREVIEW OF COMING ATTRACTIONS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYhtqys3t_4

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:26 | 6526995 CheapBastard
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Anyone with a few dollas and some common sense would get the heck out of there NOW and get a head start over the 2,000,000 Turkish refugees who will soon start their trek to the UK, Sweden, etc for safety. Of course, they will have to compete with the MENA people who are also fleeing there.

 

Odd how none of these Muzzies are going to their own Muslim brother countries.

 

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:38 | 6527067 TBT or not TBT
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The oil funded muslim tyrannies have fences at their borders, and these seem to work.  Also, they rapidly export or punish anyone found in their borders who should not be there.   Such as palestinans, but not only.  

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:56 | 6527138 38BWD22
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Yes, it's funny how some models work in keeping troublemakers out.  The USA could learn a little something in booting out illegal migrant felons, etc.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 17:58 | 6528787 jerry_theking_lawler
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So, the only 'tolerable' people in the world are white europeans??

 

This is our downfall....until the system breaks.....the Hitler's will pop up all over the globe.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:39 | 6527072 847328_3527
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If I were Germany or Sweden or any of these I would offer them free passage ... to any Muslim country of their choice . ZATO should offer to build free housing in Saudi Arabia or Indonesia or any of the other 158 Muslim countries whom i am sure will welcome their brothers with open arms.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:58 | 6527150 38BWD22
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It's too late for Sweden, and probably too late for Germany.

France can only save itself if they elect a real-hardass who will send their illegal Muslim immigrants back home.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:12 | 6527224 Haus-Targaryen
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Hungary & Austria are still worse off per capita than Germany is, as is France if you consider the 3rd world African population as well. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:33 | 6527674 Son of Loki
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After twilight downtown Stockholm and even Bergen these days look like Kabul, Mosul or Baghdaddy. Some of those Muzlim ghetto suburbs of Stockholm are already pretty dangerous.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:48 | 6527446 MSimon
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The Saudis are a Brit creation. As is Israel. As is most of the ME.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-07/bed-despotic-house-saud#comment...

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:24 | 6526996 VonSalza
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kristallnacht bitches

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:27 | 6527012 DetectiveStern
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Was just about to post the same.

On a side note the UK government has managed to kill a guy in Syria twice and not a single media outlet here has noticed.

Get ready for war. When the press becomes the absolute mouth piece of the government you know it only leads to one place.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 15:22 | 6527939 NoPension
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Tell me more about this guy they killed twice.

Your not a " homicide" detective, are you?

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 18:50 | 6529018 Ms No
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Maybe he is related to the crisis actor woman who was shown on video and pictures crying at 3 different mass shootings in the US. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:25 | 6527002 blabam
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We clearly need more of this in Europe. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:28 | 6527014 Smegley Wanxalot
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Yup. It's on its way.  And getting funded by the EU.

 

No wonder Hungary is building a wall.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:32 | 6527039 Syrin
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In all seriousness, you do.  Something has to wake those Eurofucktards to the reality that liberal mantras like "multiculturalism" DON'T WORK along with socialism, the Euro, etc.   They need a violent dose of reality to wake them from their multi-generational slumber.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:50 | 6527120 bbq on whitehou...
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Europe has a long history of what happens when they stop being polite. Careful what you wish for.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:05 | 6527187 Syrin
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Europe is about to be one giant sharia state.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 15:00 | 6527837 Klaatuwept
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No bbq is right, think 30's germany with muslims in the role of the jews is more likely scenario based on past performance

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:26 | 6527004 Smegley Wanxalot
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Fergusistanbul.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:27 | 6527005 the grateful un...
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which way is Hungary?

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:34 | 6527051 cowdiddly
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Turn left at Hungry

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:40 | 6527076 847328_3527
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Soon they'll be catching the bus to Astoria.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:30 | 6527011 JustObserving
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Keep fighting undeclared wars and you will have blowback and more war:

Turkish government escalates war against Kurdish PKK

 

By Jean Shaoul and Halil Celik 
9 September 2015

 

The interim Justice and Development Party (AKP) government, led by Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, has put much of southeastern Turkey under de facto martial law, and is escalating its military operations against the Kurds in Turkey, Iraq and Syria in the name of combatting “terrorism.” It is whipping up a climate of fear and intimidation that threatens to spiral out of control.

Turkey’s security forces have launched a large-scale attack on Kurdish targets in the wake of Monday’s bomb attack that killed 12 police officers in eastern Turkey, near the border with Azerbaijan, which the government has blamed on the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK). The operation included sending ground forces into Iraq in pursuit of Kurdish militants, the first time for two years.

This follows an attack on Sunday that killed 16 Turkish soldiers in the southeast that in turn led to a massive air operation that killed around 40 PKK militants.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/09/09/turk-s09.html

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:31 | 6527033 blabam
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Declared wars don't produce blowback? 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:44 | 6527096 JustObserving
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Perhaps you did not get the implication that Turkey was fighting an undeclared with Syria

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:51 | 6527461 Urban Roman
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Declared wars produce blowUP.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:29 | 6527024 Tsar Pointless
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You know we're either close or there now. The elite must feel confident that they can survive whatever plights befall we serfs over the next few years or so.

The powderkegs have been tossed into a ravaging fire. Relgious zealots will rejoice, because the end is near and their dear saviour will arrive to carry them off to the Promised Land on a pretty white horse.

And monkeys will fly out of my butt.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:37 | 6527025 The Indelicate ...
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about that ground invasion by US troops into Syria.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/09/08/russian-troops-are-in-syria-and-we-h...

Ivan can fight back.

Imagine a better trained, more deadly Taliban.

good luck with that, grunts.

If you havent figured out by now that you're being sent into a meat grinder for banks, the mic and Israel - I've got no sympathy for you.

The time to rebel is yesterday.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:39 | 6527074 Ms No
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The same guy who made that pic of Putin and Assad may have been taking pictures of a dead little boy recently, sick bastards.  The shit fan is on high and it is hard to know what to do.  I am going to go with being non reactive.

The bankers are coming. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:43 | 6527422 MSimon
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Have you ever been duped. It is for the Brits.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-07/bed-despotic-house-saud#comment...

 

How clever of them to pick people who are objects of popular hate to be their front men. And the dupid fall for it. And the Brits get away to do it again another day.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:30 | 6527030 JJdog
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Turkey roast early this year.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:31 | 6527031 hangemhigh77
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The normalcy bias is alive and well in america

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:33 | 6527046 general ambivalent
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This running of the bulls is an open challenge to Spain. Great for the tourism industry!

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:35 | 6527055 starman
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As for Syrian refugees I didnt know Syria had a border with Hungary? Oh wait it doesnt! Also did anybody else notice that 90% of refugees are young man?! Did ISIS just invade the EU?! 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:15 | 6527243 viahj
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yes, they did. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:38 | 6527388 Caleb Abell
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Good.  

Our bitches in the EU thought they were going to get the spoils from wrecking the ME.  Libya was sweet too.  The Frogs got the water aquifer, the Brits the Oil, and the US disappeared the gold and pushed the Chinese out.  And all it cost our dumbass servants in the EU was millions of refugees.  It would be better if they could set up some of those high speed Eurorail trains to take all the ME and Africans victims directly to Paris and London.  Those two worthless countries made this all possible by going along with the US because they thought they would get part of the loot.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 16:44 | 6528468 flyingcaveman
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Also, they'll be millions more people using Euro's and pounds, might as well be us dollars too since they'll all interchangable SDR currencies.  This helps boost there value because of the network effect of currencies.  Maybe some windows will get broken in the process too, so it's all good.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:35 | 6527057 Ms No
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Fostering civil wars and sectarian violence is what these people do.  The bankers are coming... the bankers are coming!

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:39 | 6527070 I AM SULLY
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The KURDS suck too ... they all suck ... YOU SUCK!

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:41 | 6527083 roisaber
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Good job Erdogan you Reptilian hybrid fuck. You got your very own Kristallnacht.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:42 | 6527090 Jim in MN
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Turkey can't exterminate all Kurds in Turkey and maintain its territorial integrity.  The 'other Kurds' will see to that.  You know, the ones with lots and lots of U.S. weapons and oil? 

I wonder if Erdogan is in on the partition and loss of southeast Turkey to a new Kurdistan?   I bet the fix is already in.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 15:08 | 6527873 Klaatuwept
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There needs to be a kurdistan thats the reality

The kurds have been bombed with chemical and conventional weapons by saddam in iraq,by assad in syria and erdogan in turkey and are the main grouping in the refugee crisis, its the likely solution

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:48 | 6527111 Tsar Pointless
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Posted again, because it needs to be:

http://www.oilempire.us/new-map.html

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:53 | 6527133 swmnguy
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No doubt Wolfowitz and Brzezinski have little smirks on their faces these days.  It's working.  The US doesn't have the raw power to openly destroy all rivals to primacy, but we don't have to do it openly.  We can just exploit existing societal fracture points on top of deposits of strategic resources and the routes those resources have to travel to get to market.  We can find, nurture, train, finance and arm the very worst elements in all these societies, so that compromise and actual peace become completely impossible.  Then the only interests that can utilize the resources would be those  who can project military power anyplace at any time.  There's only one such power on Earth, isn't there?

And let's not mislead ourselves as to whom our deadly rivals are.  Most of us could guess "Russia and China," but most of us would not realize it's the EU also.

Having Turkey blow up is perfect.  Seals the Black Sea.  Dooms the "Turk Stream" NG pipeline, screwing both Russia and the EU.  The Turks still want to restore the Ottoman Empire, and this scuttles that.  Eliminating any meaningful national borders or power structures creates bloodsoaked chaos and a ring of toxic dumpster fires all around the perimeter of all our rivals, real or potential.  

The goal is domination of Eurasia.  Doesn't have to mean "boots on the ground;" actually, it can't, because we don't have nearly enough guys.   Just making sure they're all at each others' throats is good enough.  If the world oil market denominated in US Dollars disintegrates, then finance will too, and then the economics of fracking don't matter anymore.  We'll be fine, and all the oil will still just be sitting in the ground where it is.  At least, that's part of the plan.

IS and the Kurds are just the McGuffins.  Irrelevant in and of themselves, but they sure do move the plot along.  The Maltese Falcon was just a clay bird.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 12:57 | 6527140 Tsar Pointless
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Wow. Concise, reasoned, with a sense of true understanding of the world as it is, not as we are told it is.

+1, but I'd give you more if I could.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:01 | 6527173 swmnguy
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Thanks. 

Sorry about the telegenic drowned kid, but you can't run an Empire by only killing the ugly ones.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:47 | 6533244 mkkby
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Down voted you for believing part of the plan is to ruin the petro dollar.  (Or perhaps you were not clear on that point).  Defense of the petro dollar is of primary importance, for the reserve status is what finances all the other ventures.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:27 | 6527332 MSimon
Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:38 | 6527389 Paveway IV
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"...Then the only interests that can utilize the resources would be those  who can project military power anyplace at any time.  There's only one such power on Earth, isn't there?..."

Well, er... there's a couple of news items the MSM has been ignoring this week:

1. Putin put Russia's Central Military Command on full alert yesterday through the rest of this week for - you know... for inspections and stuff. Their Central MC covers Belarus, Ukraine, Western Russia to the Urals, and Kazakhstan - pretty much here. I don't think it goes below the Caspian. Any Russian Mil guys out there who know?

 

2. Russian submarine with 20 ICBMs and 200 nuclear warheads is sailing to Syria - A big one. In fact, the world's largest: the Typhoon-class Dmitri Donskoy (TK-208) carrying 20 SS-N-30 Bulava ICBMs with 6 - 10 warheads each. Bulava are the sub equivalent to the Topol-Ms. Ouch.

 

3. Russia is also sending the far shrimpier but stealthy and deadlier Borei-class Alexander Nevsky (K-550) to the Pacific right now. It only carries 16 SS-N-30 Bulava ICBMs with 6 - 10 warheads. I guess California and Hawaii are less of a threat than Syria. There will eventually be a total of four Borei-class nuke subs bobbing around in the Pacific in next few years.

That kind of throws a monkey-wrench into the whole world-domination thing. Then there's Putin's nuclear-armed 1.6 billion Chinese pals. The U.S. may still be able to project military power anyplace, anytime... but a Topol-M and DF-14 project thier own unique sense of power. I would hate to get into a contest to find out who has the best projectors. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:15 | 6527561 swmnguy
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Hey, what's your source?  That's really interesting and as you say, I haven't heard a peep.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:22 | 6527606 Paveway IV
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The links in the original post here from yesterday didn't copy over for some reason. They should get you started. Nothing really secret - it just isn't being reported in the MSM.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:45 | 6527748 swmnguy
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Thanks!  I like to try to keep up.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:16 | 6527569 Jack Burton
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"We can just exploit existing societal fracture points"

+ 100  Mega Bingo!

Look at the world, ethnic divides are used by Washington. Ukraine is in civil war, the USA started that war. Iraq, civil war, started by USA. Libya, civil war started by USA. Yemen, civil war, started by USA. Syria, civil war, started by USA>

America is a nation wrecking machine.

Your post is perfect!

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:53 | 6527799 swmnguy
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I wonder what happened with Boko Haram in Nigeria.  That one showed some promise a while ago.  But look where a pipeline from Nigeria to Europe would have to go.  And Darfur.  Lotsa oil there.  But it would have to get to the Red Sea.  Through troubled areas not without US presence.  And it's noteworthy to see where trouble overlaps with recent Chinese infrastructure investment in Africa and the Middle East. I bet the Chinese have noticed.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 19:31 | 6529122 Mediocritas
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Yep, you're both on the money.

That's why what Europe really should be doing is packing every last refugee onto boats and planes and sending them to America with a letter saying, "you broke it, you own it".

Even better if said refugees are black to play on the growng black-white civil divide in America. Give the USA a taste of its own medicine.

Meanwhile, notice how quiet Israel's hawks are? First to demand military action and regime change. Not a peep when there's a predictable rise in refugee flows due to the chaos of said regime change. How many refugees is Israel taking per capita?

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:19 | 6527587 Jack Burton
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"And let's not mislead ourselves as to whom our deadly rivals are.  Most of us could guess "Russia and China," but most of us would not realize it's the EU also."

+100!

The migrant crisis is designed to bring down Europe

Ukraine crisis is designed to bring EU and Russia to mutal destruction.

All this leaves USA king of the hill! European politicians have sold out for personal gain to the USA. They are destroying their own nations, on orders from Washington. These politicians will all get Washingtons golden handshake at the right time.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:50 | 6527757 swmnguy
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Uh-huh.

Thanks for the kind words.  I'd really like to be proven wrong.  But having read Brzezinski's "The Grand Chessboard" and watched current events, I have a bad feeling about this.  When one compares US verbiage to US actions, and then wonders, "If you always fail at your stated goals why do you keep doing the same thing over and over, and nobody ever gets called on the carpet for failure?" one can only conclude that the stated goals are not the real goals.  So then you have to start at the start, thinking, "Why would you do this?  And then seeing that result, do the next thing?"  That's when it starts to get really diabolical.

Not to say it will work.  But it's an interesting strategy to "Fail Your Way To Victory," or something like that.  When creating chaos  IS the goal ("IS" pun intended), it changes how you approach it.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 19:40 | 6529161 Mediocritas
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They know that social power is measured in relative terms, not absolute terms. I do wonder what their long term plan is for dealing with China. Thoughts?

The one obvious angle is oil starvation, as was used to take out Japan in WW2. But where are the easy social pressure points given how closely the Chinese govt studies the demise of the USSR?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:58 | 6533295 mkkby
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China is really interesting, because how do you starve China of oil after moving every fortune 500's manufacturing there?  I think they will have to stir up social/sectarian trouble and try to create unrest. 

Keep China's gov too busy protecting their own power, with no time to expand out.  This would be very easy.  If the fed starts tightening all the hot money deserts China and chaos ensues. Many other ways.

I've got my popcorn ready.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:04 | 6527181 kingvaclav
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Middle East Shit Storm: 'This is all a Plan. It's Nuts.'

http://winteractionables.com/?p=24913

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:09 | 6527210 kingvaclav
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Europe crumbles Under the Devastating Impact of Mass Immigration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c4Rvz5stHE

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:18 | 6527262 q99x2
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US-backed despot -- not my US. My US ceased to exist in 2001 and it is banks and banking operations that fund any military action. Without banksters like Goldman Sachs there could be no major wars.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:20 | 6527279 AlfredNeumann
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According to Webster Tarpley.  ISIS is controlled by Erdogan.

http://tarpley.net/

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:20 | 6527280 orangegeek
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Ask George Soros to stop financing this one and it should end in about 10 minutes.

 

George says, "...sorry 'bout the damage folks..."

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:21 | 6527283 swmnguy
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More and more it strikes me that the Iranians are really smart.  They aren't run by a single strongman.

I think about Hugo Chavez, Gadhafi and Saddam Hussein.  Besides all being dead before their time, they all mulled over selling oil in other-than-US Dollars.  They share that with Vladimir Putin and the leadership of Iran, and one wonders about the Saudis.  The leadership of Iran, however, is not invested in one man or one family.  Lots harder to kill or co-opt them.

Erdogan is a fool trying to make himself the strongman of Turkey.  Assad is finding out how that works in the end, also.  De-centralization is the answer to an Empire that can kill any nation-state it wants to.  If they're all Spartacus, you have to kill them all.  Which you can do, but it's not without consequences.

If you look at sheer resource wealth, Congo should be among the richest countries on Earth.  But instead it's a fucking abattoir.  Every time they even think about getting their shit together, look what happens.  Congo gets invaded by Rwanda, for Chrissakes?  No way.  But happen it did.  If they ever got out of the strongman trap and spread the power around, things will be very different in a part of the world that has an unbelievable amount of stuff people need.

Empire is a tricky and filthy business.  It takes a lot of discipline, intelligence and wit to survive it without being crushed.  Iran is very interesting.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:23 | 6527297 MSimon
Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:19 | 6527585 swmnguy
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The sheer brutality and deviousness of the Limeys is hard to fathom, growing up as I did in a descendent culture.  Heck, it's taken me nearly 50 to recognize those traits in my own US environment.

We in the US tend to think of ourselves having to defend ourselves from devious and brutal non-Europeans, and some Europeans.  But I don't think anybody else in the world is fooled.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:21 | 6527284 surf0766
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Top down bottom up inside out. The new head of the calipahte is being born

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:21 | 6527285 MSimon
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The Kurds are quite fond of Israel.

I don't see how doing this to THOSE people will improve a country. The Turks doing it to the Kurds hasn't improved Turkey. Quite the opposite. A country full of hate is not a place most people would want to visit.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:24 | 6527302 scatha
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Erdogan is gambling with the future of Turkey, unleashing Turkish nationalism that will sweep him away and will result of disintegration of the Turkish state if he's not stopped. His erratic, I would say incoherent policies relative to Kurds, IS, Syria and now in Lebanon but most of all to the US are dangerous for the very existence of the Turkish state while Washington neocons trying to dislodge him for his previously independent politics that won him popular support at home.

It is all related to the return to cold war 2.0 against Russia an her allies such a Syria.

More independent analysis I found at:

https://contrarianopinion.wordpress.com/syrian-war-update/

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:25 | 6527308 Bay Area Guy
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I'm trying to come up with a list of which MENA countries have been screwed over by the West since the creation of Israel.

British held Palestine - to create the State of Israel

Iran - overthrown of the government to install the Shah

Iraq - Saddam

Afghanistan - Taliban back and forth

Libya - Qadaffi

Yemen - To help out the Saudis

Syria - Assad (not completed yet)

Turkey - About to be replaced by a strongman, who we'll probably depose when he outlives his usefulness.

I know I'm probably missing a lot, so please feel free to add.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:32 | 6527349 MSimon
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Israel is a British creation. The Balfor Declaration.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-07/bed-despotic-house-saud#comment...

Saudi Arabia is a British creation.  In fact most of the map of the ME is a British creation.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:34 | 6527370 AlfredNeumann
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Lots of wars start with UK crap.   Biggest mistake in history was creating Israhell , a nation that makes Nazi Germany look like choir boys.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:13 | 6527552 MSimon
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Raphael Mechoulam led a team that discovered the endocannabinoid receptors. You have more of those receptors in your body than any other kind.

Israel is doing research on cannabinoids as a cure for cancer as is a group in Spain (an offshoot of Mechoulam's work).

You seem to have a lot of trouble differentiating people from governments.

Well. The NWO approves of your hate. Join the ranks of the dupid. It helps them.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:21 | 6527598 swmnguy
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I've done some research on the cannabinoids myself.  Quite promising.

I think.

What?

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 14:58 | 6527827 AlfredNeumann
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There is no money in cures for cancer hence Jews  won't find one.

Actually that gray matter between our ears has the power to cure cancer.  I have  the key but won't tell anyone about it unless you ask me.

and its TOTALLY FREE.
Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:29 | 6527321 PrimalScream
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You say that Turkey has a "US-backed despot". But I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of people in NATO, the military, and other organizations ... who are wondering if Turkey should even be a member of NATO.  This doesn't look much like an ally to me.

This is the same country that committed the Armenian genocide.  Unleashing "holy terror" on the streets ... seems like a super-bad idea. 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:30 | 6527353 Sockshow Puppethand
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And this is the host country for the G20 Summit?

It still looks more stable than Baltimore.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:31 | 6527355 pazmaker
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The turks have little tolerance for others...Armenian Genocide, Greek Genocide  Destruction of Greek community in Istanbul 1955.   Purging of the Kurds...

 

These are the kind of Partners the good ole US of A  love to have...ruthless and full of hate.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 13:31 | 6527358 AlfredNeumann
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Well, we still have the buildings down the autobahn from me on the Dutch/German border , but the weeds around it growing high.  as we have been able to drive right thru with only ''Welcome to Germany '' sign..  Its funny to watch everyone put their fooot down on the accelerator as they pass that sign..   Young Dutch guys come over just to test drive their souped up cars

However, if Schengen is cancelled it those building and the gates will be re opened.

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