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Economic Crisis: How You Can Prepare Over The Next Six Months

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Submitted by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.com,

I wouldn’t say that it is “never too late” to prepare for potential disaster because, obviously, the numerous economic and social catastrophes of the past have proven otherwise. There simply comes a point in time in which the ignorant and presumptive are indeed officially screwed. I will say that we have not quite come to that point yet here in the U.S., but the window of opportunity for preparation is growing very narrow.

As expected, U.S. stocks are now revealing the underlying instability of our economy, which has been festering for several years.  Extreme volatility not seen since 2008/2009 has returned, sometimes with 1000 point fluctuations positive and negative in the span of only a couple days.  Current market tremors are beginning to resemble the EKG of a patient suffering a heart attack.

Stocks are a trailing indicator, meaning that when an equities crash finally becomes visible to the mainstream public, it indicates that the economic fundamentals have been broken beyond repair for quite a while. What does this mean for those people who prefer to protect themselves and their families rather than wait to be drowned like lemmings in a deluge? It means they are lucky if they have more than a few months to put their house in order.

The process of crisis preparedness is not as simple as going on a gear-buying bonanza or making a few extra trips to Costco. That is better than nothing; but really, it’s a form of half-assed prepping that creates more of an illusion of survivabilty rather than providing ample security in the event that financial systems malfunction.

Much of what’s listed in this article will include training and infrastructure goals far beyond the usual standards of beans, bullets and Band-Aids.

Market turmoil has only just begun to take shape around the globe; and as I explained in my last article, the situation is only going to become exponentially worse as 2015 bleeds into 2016. I certainly cannot say for certain how long our system will remain “stable,” primarily because our current collapse could easily move faster or slower through the influence of outside or engineered events (a slower progression without any black swan-style triggers would likely end in total breakdown within the span of a couple years, rather than a fast progression ending in the span of a few months). What I can do is give you a conservative timeline for preparedness and offer examples of actions anyone can accomplish within that period. For now, my timeline is limited to six months or less, meaning these preparations should be undertaken with the intent to complete them in half a year. If you get more time than that, thank your lucky stars for the extension.

Find Two Family Members, Two Friends and One Neighbor Of Like Mind

Here is the bottom line: If you are going the route of the lone wolf or secret squirrel isolated from any community, then you are already dead. You might as well hand your food and supplies over to someone else with a better fighting chance. The lone wolf methodology is the worst possible strategy for survival. And if you look at almost every collapse scenario in history from Argentina to Bosnia to the Great Depression, it is always the people with strong community who end up surviving.

Going lone wolf is partially useful only if you have zero moral fortitude and you plan to rob or murder every other person you come across and then run. This is not the smartest idea either because it requires a person to constantly seek out violent contact in order to live day to day. Eventually, the lone wolf’s luck will run out no matter how vicious he is.

I’ve noticed that those people who promote lone wolf survivalism tend to lean toward moral relativism, though they rarely come right out and admit what their real plans are. I’ve also noticed that it is the lone wolves who also often attempt to shame average preppers into isolationism with claims of “OPSEC” (operations security) and warnings of neighbors ready to loot their homes at the first sign of unrest. “Don’t talk to anyone,” they say. “Your only chance is to hide.” One should consider the possibility that the lone wolves prefer that preppers never form groups or communities because that would make their predatory strategy more successful.

Without community, you have no security beyond the hope that people will not find you by chance. You also have limited skill sets to draw from (no one has the knowledge and ability to provide all services and necessities for themselves). And you will have no ability to rebuild or extend your lines of safety, food production, health services, etc. once the opportunity arises. If you cannot find two family members, two friends and one neighbor to work with you in the next six months, then you aren’t trying hard enough; and thus, frankly, you don’t deserve to survive. I’ve heard all the excuses before: “Everyone around me is blissfully ignorant,” “My family is addicted to their cellphones,” “All my friends are Keynesians” and so on. It doesn’t matter. No more excuses. Get it done. If I can do it, you can.

Approach Your Church, Veterans’ Hall Or Other Organization

What do you have to lose? Find an existing organization you belong to and see if you can convince them to pre-stage supplies or hold classes on vital skills. Keep your approach nonpolitical. Make it strictly about preparedness and training. If you can motivate a church or a veterans’ hall or a homeschoolers’ club to actually go beyond their normal parameters and think critically about crisis preparedness, then you may have just saved the lives of dozens if not hundreds or people who would have been oblivious otherwise. Making the effort to approach such groups could be accomplished in weeks, let alone six months.

Learn A Trade Skill

Take the next six months and learn one valuable trade skill, meaning any skill that would allow you to produce a necessity, repair a necessity or teach a necessary knowledge set. If you cannot do this, then you will have no capability to barter in a sustainable way. Remember this: The future belongs to the producers, and only producers will thrive post-collapse.

Commit To Rifle Training At Least Once A Week

Set aside the money and the ammo to practice with your primary rifle every week for the next six months. Yes, training uses up your ammo supply; but you are far better off sending a couple thousand rounds down range to perfect your shooting ability rather than letting that ammo sit in a box doing nothing while your speed and accuracy go nowhere.

Also, think in terms of real training methods, including speed drills, movement drills, reloading and malfunction clearing, and, most importantly, team movement and communications drills. Shooting a thousand rounds from a bench at the range is truly a waste of time and money. Train in an environment that matches your expected operational conditions. Make sure you are learning something new all the time and make sure you are actually challenged by the level of difficulty. If you are not getting frustrated, then you are not training correctly.

Create A Local Ham Network - Expand To Long Distance

A 5-watt ham radio can be had for about $40. With the flood of low-cost, Chinese-made radios on the market today, there is simply no excuse not to have one. If you want to get your ham license, then by all means do so and expand the number of available frequencies you can legally use. If you don’t have a license, practice on non-licensed channels such as MURS channels (yes, MURS is only supposed to be operated at 1 watt or less; I won’t tattle on you to the Federal Communications Commission if you use 5 watts).

A 5-watt handheld ham radio can easily achieve 30 miles or more depending on the type of antenna used. With repeaters, hundreds of miles can be covered. With a high frequency (HF) rig, hundreds or sometimes thousands of miles can be covered without the use of repeaters (though HF radios are far more expensive).

During a national disaster, there is no guarantee that normal communications will continue. Phone and Internet connections can be lost through neglect, or they can be deliberately eliminated by government entities. A nation or community without communications is lost. Find friends and family and set up your communications network now. Over time, your network may grow to cover a vast area; but it has to start with a core, and that core is you.

Learn Basic Emergency And Combat Medical Response

We are lucky in my area to have a few people with extensive medical knowledge in our Community Preparedness Team. I have received training in multiple areas of emergency and combat medical response, and I am grateful for access to such people because there is always more to learn in this field. If you do not have people on your team with medical experience, then you will have to seek out such classes where you can.

Local EMT classes are a good start, but these courses are very limited in scope and do not cover treatment as much as they cover the identification of particular problems. Almost no community courses I can think of delve into combat medical response. If you can’t find a private trainer in your area, then you will have to settle for Web videos. Purchase extra supplies such as Israeli or OLAES bandages and practice using them. Learn your CAT tourniquet until you can use it in the dark. My team even shot a Christmas ham and then pumped fake blood through it to simulate a wound for our blood-stopping class.

If you already have solid people with medical training, try focusing in a niche area like dental work. At the very least, learn your trauma-response basics and store your own medical supplies. Do not assume that you will have access to a hospital when you need it.

Store At Least One Year Of Food – Then Store Extra

With your current food stores can you make it at least one year without a grocery supply source? Can you make it through at least one planting and harvest season with 2000 – 3000 available calories per person? Do you have extra food for people you might wish to help?

Imagine you or your community come across an ER surgeon during a crisis situation, but he did not prepare. Are you going to “stick it to him” and let him starve because he didn't see the danger coming, or are you going to want to keep that guy and his skill sets around? Food preparedness is not as straightforward as it seems. You have to think in terms of your own survival, yes, but also in terms of individual aid. During a full spectrum collapse food is the key to everything. This is why governments like ours set up provisions for food confiscation. They know well that food is power. Without extra supply, communities struggle to form because people become hyper-focused on themselves and lose track of the bigger survival picture. Governments understand that if they can offer limited food to the desperate, they can control the desperate. Do what you can to make sure there are no desperate people within your sphere of influence and you remove the establishment's best mode of control.

Plan Your Food Independence In Advance

To survive you must become your own farmer. Period. Do you know how to do this in your particular climate? Have you accounted for pest control and bad weather conditions? Have you extended your growing season with the use of greenhouses? Are you planning your crops realistically? What provides more sustenance, a field of tomatoes or a field of potatoes? A planting box full of lettuce or of carrots? What crops can be stored the longest and are the hardiest against poor conditions? What gives you the best bang for your buck and for your labor?

I realize that the current growing season is almost at an end, but that does not mean you can't spend the next six months planning for the next season. Condition your soil for planting now. Store extra fertilizer and compost. Be ready for pests. Learn the square foot method as well as barrel planting. Take note of the space you have and how you can best use it. Stockpile seeds for several years of planting.

Train Your Mind To Handle Crisis

Panic betrays and fear kills. The preparedness culture is built upon the ideal that one must defeat fear in order to live. How a person goes about removing uncertainty from the mind is really up to the individual. For me, combat training and mixed martial arts is a great tool. If you get used to people trying to hurt you in a ring, it's not quite as surprising or terrifying when it happens in the real world. If you can handle physical and mental trauma in a slightly more controlled environment, then fear is less likely to take hold of you during a surprise disaster.

Six months may be enough time to enter a state of mental preparedness, it may not be, but more than anything else, this is what you should be focusing on. All other survival actions depend on it. Your ability to function personally, your ability to work with others, your ability to act when necessary, all rely on your removal of fear. Take the precious time you have now and ensure you are ready to handle whatever the future throws at you.

 

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Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:02 | 6529624 hedgeless_horseman
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Set aside the money and the ammo to practice with your primary rifle every week for the next six months.

26 weeks of rifle training could be a a lot of negative learning, if you are not starting off with a solid foundation.  I would recommend two weekends of tactical rifle and one weekend of precision rifle with a good professional instructor at the beginning.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:03 | 6529626 Big_Hitman
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Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:07 | 6529637 coinhead
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That's right Hitman.. the tards here are trying to write their personal fantasies into the collapse.  But it won't be anything like they think.  People will get through it, get over it.  We will have better, faster, smaller and more effecient technology after teh collapse.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:47 | 6529774 knukles
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Dinty Moore Corned Beef Hash.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:52 | 6529800 Tyrone Shoelaces
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Yummy!  And SPAM too.  Not Internetsweb SPAM, but REAL SPAM.  Good stuff, it helped the Brits win WW2.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:09 | 6529856 Keyser
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You left out the most obvious solution to the impending doom in the west, which is to get hell out of the way of the oncoming train... That light at the end of the tunnel is getting bigger and bigger... Cans of Dinty Moore and rifle training will do little to help you when the SHTF for real... Besides that, what kind of life will there be in the US once ecomonic collapse takes hold? Not much in my opinion... Plenty of places on this planet that will be safe, just none of them in western countries... 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:21 | 6529872 Manthong
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Know how to sweat copper, thread pipe, join wood, know how to wire  AC Primary and basic DC circuits.

Oh, and how keep an eight inch group or better at 800 yards and bullets inside the 9 ring with your handgun  at 7 yards.

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:36 | 6529925 38BWD22
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Brandon Smith provides a very long list of preparations that I doubt that even 3% or even 5% of ZH-members have completed (or mostly so).  Certainly I have not.  I have done only relatively superficial things:

-- armed up

-- "gold-ed" up

-- a small number of DAYS of food & water

-- some supplies (meds, sanitary products)

We should all hope that we merely go through "Great Depression v. 2", and consider ourselves lucky it is not TEOTWAWKI...

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:51 | 6529963 macholatte
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International Practical Shooting Confederation

http://www.ipsc.org/

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:58 | 6529977 TeamDepends
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Start praying that people wake up, and realize Deez Nuts is the only leader who can get us across the Rubicon.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:05 | 6530001 jeff montanye
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from republic to empire? or are we off to gaul?

if the cable tv is seriously interrupted it may come to that.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:30 | 6530056 TeamDepends
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Before sunrise Deez Nuts, his carriage driven by local mules, crossed the Rubicon to confront Canigula, who had already descended into madness...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 02:06 | 6530220 The9thDoctor
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This "prepping" meme has gotten really old and tired.

This same old doom was peddled in 2008 and it blew over. This same old doom was peddled after 9/11. This same old doom was peddled before Y2K. The same old doom was peddled in the 1980s because of the Soviet Union's nukes.

The preppers need to lay off the zombie television shows and Hollywood movies and get with reality.

Detroit collapsed back in the 1980s, and life goes on. This so-called "imminent" collapse that the alternative media peddles for decades has already happened. It's called the Rust Belt. The whole nation will turn into the rust belt soon.

While you guys are playing weekend warrior in the woods with your peashooter AR-15s and your cans of beans, I will be working on my next business.

You see a crisis, I see an opportunity.

For being a financial blog, I'm surprised more people aren't commenting on this.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 02:32 | 6530242 runningman18
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There is no opportunity for anyone during collapse except the elites, the system is designed that way.  And, people have been warning about this crisis since 2008 because the crisis started in 2008 and never ended.  We are at the halfway point now.  Your normalcy bias will cost you your life.  While you are starving in a FEMA "aid camp", I'll be eating well and so will my friends and family.  You see opportunity, we see ignorance.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 06:51 | 6530413 Bendromeda Strain
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No. The crisis started long before 2008. The only thing that happened in 2008 was a (hopefully) critical mass of sleeping idiots like me woke up. You need to start seeing the big picture. Kennedy, OKC, The War of 1812, 9/11, gold confiscation - all symptoms of the nation's hemorrhagic fever.

Did not down vote you...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 10:04 | 6530881 Pairadimes
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My advice? Stop owning things that will soon be worthless.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 10:12 | 6530912 Theosebes Goodfellow
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And the "Big Picture" now...

1.) "Relief supplies" were actually a container filled with weapons specifically for Syrians in Greece, (with video).

2.) Dec 2014: Jeb, Rupert Murdoch & Valerie Jarret breaking bread together.

3.) U.S. State Department now saying they were unaware the “transparency czar”, who happens to be in charge of Hillary’s email release, was a donor to Clinton’s campaign

Seriously, all the "shot at 50 yards" stuff is fine, until you actually have to shoot someone. I pray daily I never even have to face the moment. It's September. If you do not have a very robust garden right now, all your talk about prepping is bullshit. If you don't have enough food to skip the grocery store this week, you don't have enough of a larder to make it.If you have never actually canned any food, you're priorities may be a tad skewed.

Lofty goals are great, small immediate steps are greater.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 03:03 | 6530273 El Vaquero
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And I'm sure there were Romans saying something similar Caeser usurped power, or when Agustus became the emperor, or during the rule of some of the nutjobs that they had.  But a there were probably a few saying it when the Vandals were on Rome's doorstep. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 06:40 | 6530405 TSA Thug
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Ms. Latonya my supervisor read a letter to us yesterday. It was from her DHS supervisor, Ms. Jaguar Johnson.

The letter said if Trump is elected prepare to be reassigned to a new organization called National Police, same rank just more training on crowd control, law, and gun safety.

I guess I'll be FEMA Thug. Can I change my username on this website?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 06:54 | 6530417 Bendromeda Strain
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I heard that Jaguar is a real cougar...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 07:14 | 6530451 TSA Thug
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She's got about 150lbs on Ms. Latonya, 3 fingernails on each hand are about 7 inches long all curled in weird directions, and last week her weave looked like an eagles nest. She said she was a model in a hair show....

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 08:26 | 6530586 sandiegoman
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9thDoctor - best post I have seen in a long time. There are way too many prepubescent fantasies here about rambo like escapades of being the "only one left" with a gun and a store of gold. Real crisis are the ones you never see coming; where a family member gets injured or killed, when you go the doctor and get really bad news..... 

Business crisis is nothing but opportunity. I can't believe how many on here actually believe we will be going back to cave man type days.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 09:58 | 6530856 Citxmech
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Preps have little to do with Rambo fantasies.  We had a big storm last week that knocked-out power for a week at my farm.  I watched many of my neighbors make do rather nicely using tractors, chainsaws, and generators to dig themselves out and carry on quite nicely.  

Adding resiliency to your life doesn't have to be about Armageddon - normal life has enough bumps to justify taking some precautions.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:51 | 6529964 vie
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Who's to say the great depression wasn't the end of the world as they knew it at the time.  That said, no one went commando survivalist during the great depression.  More likely it'll be a lot like the collapse of the USSR.  Unless the collapse was just staging for war.  In which case, all bets are off. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:06 | 6529978 38BWD22
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That's just it, we can't know.  It's all probabilities.

My guess is something like Great Depression v. 2.  Higher probability, IMO.

My nuclear family would probably NOT survive TEOTWAWKI (Mad Max).

And then it could be somewhere in between, which would be very ugly.

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And as below repliers wrote, get in shape!

 

EDIT:

I should have mentioned above that preparation is expensive and takes time and thought.  If you have not started ALREADY, and something really bad happens, you may be TOAST.

Starting something now is better than nothing, but starting FIVE years ago is much better.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 03:42 | 6530320 cossack55
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Starting 5 years ago was also less expensive. Starting 8 years ago was really cheap.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 06:03 | 6530386 Ignorance is bliss
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During the Great Depression 90% of the population worked in agriculture. Today 90% of he population can't spell it.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 07:22 | 6530461 conscious being
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At the time of the last great depression, almost everybody was a "prepper". People had gardens. They pickled vegetables, anned foods, made jams. Now most people think chicken comes wrapped in plastic from the supermarket.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 08:29 | 6530597 sandiegoman
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not true; 21% were in agriculture. Sorry, but need to check your facts.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 10:53 | 6531083 Calmyourself
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Wrong, between 43-46% accroding to 1920 census. First decade of more i nthe cities than on the farm, but not 21%.  1941 perhaps as workers moved into defense.

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 08:04 | 6530524 spieslikeus
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Things are certainly different now. Much greater distrust in government but greater reliance on it for the FSA, lack of real skills and ability, conditioned over the years to do less of everything for starters.
In 1929, we didn't have Caitlyn and the Kartrashians, I-whatevers and reality TV.....just reality. Most anyone knew how to grow food.
All in all, people have less morals and seem more inclined to not working as a group. Cop killings are rising and no one respects authority any longer. It will be every man for himself except maybe at a very micro level of 10 or less.
I have little faith in my fellow man; me and mine will bug out to a buddy's place on a dirt road until things blow over.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 09:33 | 6530775 MalteseFalcon
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It has been estimated that 7 million (out of approx. 140 million) Americans died during the great depression.

Our history may have been sanitized to obscure that.

Did Americans "go commando?"  Your neighbor left his farm.  You could feel free to walk in and take nothing.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 02:38 | 6534753 cowdogg
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Before WWII most Americans lived on farms and had all sorts of practical skills. They didn't have any money during the Great Depression but nobody starved.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 03:57 | 6530325 stilletto
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Once upon a time, all men would do military service, so all his 'survival skills' would be second nature. Its notable that the decline of nations sets in when compulsory military service is abolished (witness Rome). Not only does MS give key life skills it teaches respect and self-respect and self-reliance. It takes a dissolute academic and gives him pride and skills. A national service scheme should be brought in for all as a kind of finishing school - could have a military and civil section (serve in civil engineering / forestry etc). We who served are prepared.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 07:24 | 6530463 conscious being
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In some perfect world maybe, but at this point, it is just more bankster slavery.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 08:13 | 6530540 saints51
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A military man is a lot easier to predict.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 10:22 | 6530946 PTR
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Oh, and how keep an eight inch group or better at 800 yards and bullets inside the 9 ring with your handgun  at 7 yards.

The 21-foot rule.  For those of you that are not familiar with that, the 21-foot rule is the minimum distance you will have (between yourself and another person, who is presenting an immediate threat to you, of course,) to pull a concealed firearm before they are physically in contact with your body.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 04:12 | 6530340 Sir SpeaksALot
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just move to Russia, they are accustomed to survival.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:12 | 6529866 snodgrass
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It was the Americans who helped the worthless British win WW II just like WW I.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:57 | 6529972 Manthong
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There are some who hold the opinion that it was the Brits and the Yanks who helped the Soviets win WWII and that Normandy was a day at the water park compared to Stalingrad, Leningrad and Kursk.

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:52 | 6530106 TBT or not TBT
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Yes the USSR expended huge numbers of human lives both during WW II and before.   We are so impressed.    

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:03 | 6531992 Tallest Skil
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The Soviets would have surrendered in spring of '43 had it not been for unfathomable amounts of US aid.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:59 | 6529980 jeff montanye
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but it was the russians who beat the nazis.

the ussr lost more soldiers winning the battle of stalingrad, turning point of ww2, than the u.s. lost in ww2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad#Casualties

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 03:15 | 6530286 Nick Jihad
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Yeah, yeah. And it was the Russians who gave Hitler the green light to invade Poland, with the Molotov-Ribbentrop (Soviet-Nazi) NonAggression Pact, along with its secret codicil dividing Polish territory between the Nazis and the the Soviets. One week after Hitler invaded Poland from the west, Soviet troops invaded from the east. Don't credit the Russians with noble motives, they reaped just what they sowed.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 07:05 | 6530435 Ayn-UK
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And once they came on our side they were big beneficiaries of lend/lease.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 10:57 | 6531100 Calmyourself
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The USSR would have lost without our lend lease trucks, simply our trucks. If the nazis were smart they would have stopped at any cost the Murmansk freighter convoy runs.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 08:42 | 6530565 RagnarRedux
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'This isn't the Britain we fought for,' say the 'unknown warriors' of WWII

They were all duped by the ethno-oligarch tribe. Now you can clearly see the consequences of Pax Judaica.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229643/This-isnt-Britain-fought...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 01:31 | 6530170 Ajax_USB_Port_R...
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Just make sure your neighbors can't smell the Spam frying! Don't store stuff that smells toooo delicious when its cooking.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 01:44 | 6530190 August
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>>>it helped the Brits win WW2.

?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 23:01 | 6534391 CoolBeans
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Indeed!  SPAM!

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:57 | 6529803 Ness.
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It's dove season in the midwest.  If you can't hit a dove with a 20G at 40yds, , you better vote D.  We're out there,  and we won't miss.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:14 | 6529871 Keyser
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Good luck with that when your neighbors find out you have food, water and supplies... People will become desperate very quickly when they realize that they cannot feed themselves or their families and your life will be worth less than nothing...

Enjoy your Rambo moment when the time comes, as I predict it won't last very long before someone slits your throat for the supplies you have squirreled away... 

BTW, I don't miss you either...  

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:35 | 6530072 TeaClipper
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To be honest I would slit his throat just for shooting doves

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:38 | 6530079 Manthong
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Yeah? Well it's pigeon season all year long where certain folks are.

A single .22 short ( gotta’ keep it quiet in the city) from a sweet little Winchester 9422, iron sights at 20 yards or so makes an nifty feather puff of a flying rat on the ground.

..would be a good skill to have because flying rats, tree rats and Bugs Bunny might be what’s for dinner if the SHTF.

..as would be a copy of the Nuge’s “Kill It and Grill It” stowed in the bunker.

: - D

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 01:08 | 6530127 Ajax_USB_Port_R...
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When I was a kid, we had a next door neighbor that would throw some bread out in his backyard, prop open his basement window and shoot birds with a .22. This guy also made the best pipe bombs for the 4th of July! He's dead now. R.I.P. Jim

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 07:36 | 6530477 duo
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A sufficiently powerful airgun will do the same thing.  Cheap ammo, also.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 03:09 | 6530278 El Vaquero
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Dove taste good.  I went out dove hunting last week.  I think I'll go again this week.  When you down one, but it isn't dead when it hits the ground, you know how you finish it off?  You pull its head off.  You don't even need a knife to clean them.  You break their wings and tear them off, take both thumbs and peel the skin off the breast, get your thumb under the breast bone and jab it up into the chest cavity while you put your pointer finger between the neck and breast, and rip.  It takes about 30 seconds. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 07:08 | 6530441 fattail
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Its coming up on archery season.  No need to be all noisy.  Become proficient with a bow.  Useful and a fun way to spend the afternoon.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:21 | 6529893 falconflight
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A Tech dependent society is the guarantee of mass die off should even mild hiccups infect the 'just in time' logistics system.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 03:11 | 6530282 El Vaquero
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If people knew just how complex our supply chains really were, they'd be horrified.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:14 | 6529660 44MagnumPrepper
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One point that wasn't mentioned:

GET INTO SHAPE.  If you get winded walking a flight of stairs just shoot yourself now.  

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:27 | 6529696 rccalhoun
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must be in shape

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:38 | 6529739 greenskeeper carl
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This cannot be overstated and I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned in the article. If you can't cover at least 5 miles without stopping and pull your body weight over a wall then you are fucked(this is minimum here). If anything bad like the author suggests ever actually happens, every single one of those land whales you see all over the place are completely and totally fucked. I put in about 5 hours a week in a combination of weight lifting and cardio, even of nothing bad ever happens, there is no better investment in your future than this, and the best part is, it's never too late to start unless you are dead. I'm 30 and I'm in the best shape of my life.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:54 | 6529806 Tyrone Shoelaces
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If there will be dead landwhales all over the place, then  why do we need to have all this stored food?

Are landwhales not tasty or what?    LOL

 

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:13 | 6529870 BandGap
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Cadavers spread diseases, avoid them.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:15 | 6529876 Keyser
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This is quite funny actually... Fat Amercia is the new normal... With 49% of Americans diagnosed with diabetes or pre-diabetes, there will be plenty of corpses laying about for vermin to feed on... 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 07:13 | 6530450 g speed
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wild dog will be the new staple--

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 10:37 | 6531009 PTR
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wild dog will be the new staple--

 

I was just thinking this morning that in large urban areas, dogs that are no longer under the care and supervision of a human will run wild in the streets and parks and eventually packs will form (depending on the survival stress levels, I'd assume, ala Detroit.)  


People would become the new wild dog staple.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 10:38 | 6531013 PTR
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^^^^I really hope it would not get that bad

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:18 | 6529886 falconflight
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"The Walking Dead" don't seem to suffer...much.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 01:47 | 6530198 August
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You have to gut them while they're still fresh.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:59 | 6529817 Billy the Poet
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All good points well worth noting. Chasing down the bad guys or tracking your meat are great reasons for being in top shape.  But if being in shape is code for "run for your individual life" then it's a no-go for me unless a dam breaks or a volcano erupts. Lots of us will refuse to run five miles and jump over a wall if that means becoming permanently separated from those who can't including parents and grandparents, young children, pets, etc. Heading for the hills with a backpack also means leaving most of your preparations behind.

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 02:35 | 6530245 AetosAeros
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Many years ago, during my volunteer Army career, you know the one: young kid brought up on public education with no future in agriculture as I wanted something more in life than toiling over the tilling, and with an upbringing which taught manners, respect for elders, respect for those who 'knew things', and laughing at Californian's who wanted to 'Liberalise' us...... I worked at a place in North Carolina called Camp McCall. Some of you ZH'rs might recognize the place for what it contained, namely SERE school. Survival, Escape, Resistance, and Evade. We taught a lot of things, mainley though it came down to the acronym SURVIVAL, of which we always asked what part of that acronym was the most improtant. For those who don't know it means:

Size up the situation

Undue haste makes waste

Remember where you are

Value Living

Improvise

Vanquish fear and panic

Act like the natives

Learn the basics.

 

The most important? Value Living! If you have a reason to live, you will. Which is what we taught. If you have something selfless, I believe (as I've learned over the years) that remorse, regret, and self-loathing will be minimized. I have nightmare's for the things I've done in a decade plus of service, but I was selfless in my reasons. I've also learned over the years that I wasn't as comprehending of the issues at stake as I am now. Places like ZH and others have opened my eyes to the BS that substantiated the missions I was on. I have regret for those things and work to be something better than that 17 year old kid who joined (with Momma's blessing) thinking I was going to do what was best for 'Merica and some apple pie. So now I am here to tell you, as someone who walked the walk and has made mistakes along the path, that I'm glad I'm still selfless. I want to see humanity come out of this with something other than 'it will be different this time', and I want to tell you without a doubt: Value Living, for more than yourself. If TSHTF it will be a 2 way rifle range, and only the trained, patient, and accurate will survive. Are you there? Cause if you're not, it's best that you start now to  Value Living, and Value those around you that do too, because together you WILL survive. Apart, you're going to die griping about how unfair the world has been, and how unfair it is that you didn't have what you needed to keep going.

 

Just my thoughts.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 02:59 | 6530259 Manthong
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LOL  :- )

S.E.R.E. is really interesting if you did it across 23 miles of Mount Rangely, Maine, with Aggressors sporting red shoulder boards chasing your butt (and of course, they eventually caught you)..

In January.. with snow shoes.. with a wind chill that went down to -56 F as you slept in a hole in the snow cuddled up to a guy that was going for RIO in F-4's.

That.. is survival.

.. not to mention a pretty realistic POW experience.

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 03:16 | 6530287 AetosAeros
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Spent 3 years in Alaska, most Northern Infantry Unit in the world at the time, so yeah, I get what cold is. As far as SERE, unfortunately for the students, I was the cadre and the agressor. I'll never forget the young Captain who after being trailed for 2 days by us, who mainly kept them moving and awake, came face to face with me while on his 'guard' shift in a stream bed; he hit his knees and begged me and my buddy to let them have at least 2 hours of sleep as they hadn't slept in 3 days because we wouldn't leave them alone. We fired some rounds into the gournd and got him and his crew running like the Dickenes in all directions while totally dropping the only ruck they had with wire, knife, map, and water blivet. My buddy and I sat down and made a meal, took a 15 minute nap apeice and then sauntered off into the direction we knew they would move. Our thoughts? If you don't want to survive, you'll cry. If you do, we expect to have our asses handed to us. 

To this day I feel no shame for that day. The Cpt. eventually washed, but his team who depended on him to man up and warn them (did I forget to mention he was asleep when we walked up through dry grass to his LP) made it through, a lot tougherk a lot harder, and even after the sugar cookie races, a lot more expectant of what humility is all about, if it's worth it and you work as a team.

And not to bring up anything too harsh, red shoulder boards and all....'Do NOT stand taller than I am standing comrade!!!'

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:06 | 6531160 paratrooper325
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I remember being on DRF 7 in the 82nd having the pleasure to work this detail and others with SOG. Harassing the students was some of the best fun we had in the army because it taught you to predict their movements. I caught a guy, this wasn't the operators SERE class it was the pilots and other groups, he was cooking corn and potatoes. Needless to say after I snuck up on him he didn't get his chow. We had a pool for who could aquire the most rucks from the students. I remember this big guy from 75th Ranger Batallion who really messed up his knee before going into the POW phase crying and begging to go home. One of the cadre took him aside and leveled with him saying that he only had a few more days until the course was completed but he washed out. 

First time I worked the school was in the winter of 2000, it was really cold that year in NC, I remember the trees freezing one field problem. Anyway there was a chaplain going through the course and one of the cadre took him out of the interrogation room where it was warm(on purpose) and threw him into the peoples pond. The cadre told him "Where is your god now? He is letting you freeze in water. You pray to Dimitri, Dimitri let you out of freezing water". I laughed so hard, it was pretty fucked up though but I still chuckled. Of course I replied with "Da Comrade, have some hot coffee Dimitri" Good times. Boot.......Boot.........Boot.......

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 05:27 | 6530371 Urban Redneck
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The left coast counterpart is Fairchild, and about the only Air Farce guys whose practical skills I actually respect.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:24 | 6531806 Ace Ventura
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Hold on there Red.....some of us Chair Force troops may not have been able to skin a wombat or single-handedly take out a ninja-battalion with nothing but a popscicle stick......BUT.....we could make sure a moldy-ass tent in the middle of nowhere had cable!!

LMAO!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 14:12 | 6532027 Urban Redneck
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Tent??? Watcha talking about Willis?  You don't even get an infantry poncho liner to keep warm and dry.  Find a leeward gully and start digging a relatively toasty snow hole (preferably not under a tree that is going to bury you with a wind gust), and that's after you've figured out how not leave tracks in the snow and have worn yourself out creating false tracks.  Meanwhile these guys know the place like their own back yard, and are sitting around laughing at you from relative comfort enjoying coffee before they go hunting, for some easy cold tired and hungry prey.  It's game that's setup so you can't actually win, and in order to win (on paper) you prove you are the most skilled and biggest masochist of the lot. 

But AA is right.  I had to do a 16 mile day march through the SoCal high desert with only 2L of water.  Heatstroke and hallucinations are no fun, but I distinctly recall endlessly singing/mumbling the Ramones I wanna Live as I stepped on a sidewinder (thank God for leather combat boots) and tripped over cacti (too bad I wasn't still tripping when I had to remove the spines from my legs). 

Good times...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 08:00 | 6530514 Secret Weapon
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This post shows both insight and wisdom. Rare.  Thank you.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:57 | 6529822 SSRI Junkie
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"every single one of those land whales you see all over the place are completely and totally fucked"

 

diesel fuel on the hoof

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:25 | 6529897 Cthonic
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+ soap and glycerin

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 01:13 | 6530137 ImGumbydmmt
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= napalm

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 05:16 | 6530365 Tall Tom
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First you do not know who Tyler Durden is.

 

You did not even watch the movie before commenting here on Fight Club.

 

Next you do not understand Chemistry.

 

You are a victim...a defenseless victim...as you lack knowledge which is the best weapon of all.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 01:14 | 6530139 ImGumbydmmt
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= napalm

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:17 | 6529882 falconflight
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?  You mean if you have to fight your way out of the urban areas to bug out?  On foot?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 01:45 | 6530191 El Vaquero
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Funny how "land whale" and "lamp oil" sound similar. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:32 | 6533183 klockwerks
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30? Your in your prime. I'm 70 and pump iron 5-6 days a week in my mancave to prepare in case I need it. HATE IT but just do it.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 02:29 | 6530239 freedogger
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Fixing our footer drains on our house by hand all summer long. Shoveling, swinging a pick axe and wheel barrowing in every spare minute. Saving 40k that was quoted to us by contractors. Me and the wife shoveled 80 yards of clay out and that much in gravel back in so far. Yes we are in shape now. My resting pulse is 42bpm and I'm wiry as hell.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:29 | 6529703 Rearden-Steel
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Fat reserves might come in handy.

Just saying.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:40 | 6529935 ShakaZulu
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A reserve you can move.  Moderation in all things.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 07:47 | 6530494 Chain Gun Smoke
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He's talking about his wife.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:44 | 6529756 Goldilocks
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Run, Forrest, Run! - Forrest Gump (2/9) Movie CLIP (1994) HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2-MCPa_3rU (2:41)

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:45 | 6529768 tarsubil
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HERE COMES THE DOOM!

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:01 | 6529833 Talleyrand
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Doom porn.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:49 | 6529786 techpreist
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One other point not mentioned: "100% of a 25% plan is better than having 10% of a 100% plan."

In the next six months you may be in a desperate fight for survival. More likely, you may lose your job and not find an equivalent one for 6 months, a year, 2 years.

If the company you work for is laying off and the middle managers are desperately demanding things like DOUBLE SALES THIS MONTH!! , you need to ask yourself what your backup plan is. And start executing it now. Then layer in the marked increase in robbery because people are losing their jobs, *or* dealing with a surprise power outage because the local utility has been cutting corners to look good on paper. Then layer in the rioting when all hell breaks loose. The earlier ones are almost guaranteed to happen (growing up, my dad went through three major job losses but we got through, and I was once jobless for 3 months), the later ones are still possible but less so.

The author's "two family members, two friends, and a like-minded neighbor" is great advice. Speaking of friends, my Australian friend says that if you are thinking of bugging out to Oz, start talking to the immigration officials now because it may take several months.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:16 | 6529878 falconflight
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Australia is an exceedingly difficult country in which to immigrate, as is NZ.  Without very substantial resources that one must commit to investment or possessing what their gov't considers a critical employment skill, you likely aren't going to be approved for immigration.  Well, maybe if your'e a muslim, that's all that is needed.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:28 | 6529914 Calmyourself
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Why would anyone emigrate to Oz??  The population is disarmed sheep more PC than the US. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:21 | 6530034 techpreist
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That's what my grandpa said to my dad when he left Pennsylvania (Rust Belt) for Georgia (where the jobs would move to for the next 25 years). Every place has pros and cons. If TSHTF here, just about anywhere could be nice by comparison. Knowing someone so you aren't totally on your own would be extra nice.

But yes, I was warned about the guns.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:00 | 6531119 PTR
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Why would anyone emigrate to Oz?? 

The population is disarmed sheep more PC than the US. 

 

That aside, you have lots of variation in terrain and climates, traditionally more rugged people (you'd have to ask a kiwi that, I've not been in the loop with NZ culture for a looong time.)

 

And about a 6:1 sheep/human ratio. 


Thu, 09/10/2015 - 02:37 | 6530247 August
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I don't know about Oz, but immigration to NZ is not very difficult IFF you have a genuine, in-demand skill, and are under age 40 or so.   FWIW "job skill" doesn't mean a bachelor's degree.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 13:27 | 6531823 falconflight
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Have you down arrows ever checked into immigrating to AUS?  

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:56 | 6529967 BeanusCountus
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You make good points. Wish I had a 100% plan for any particular course of action. But not possible for me unless I ditch family, friends, etc. but I'm no longer an athlete in great shape, need medical attention along the way for my wife, etc. If IT happens, even best laid plans will be changing on the run. So foundations are couple hundred k in metals to get the hell out of here, connections in other countries that could help if I got there, rural us property to high tail it to, few powerful weapons and couple thousand rounds of ammo, lots of canned food to hole up for a month or so. The rest will go as it goes. Not sure anyone that get's THERE will be happy with whats left. In fact, the unsuccessful run combined with going out in a blaze of glory might be the greater gift.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:38 | 6530083 techpreist
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Everyone will be taken by surprise in one way or the other. Again, the most likely thing to happen is more people losing their jobs, combined with less generous welfare leading to more crime. Maybe we'll get a sudden super-emergency with a 90% dieoff, or maybe this will drag out for years and you'll have time to make moves as it all goes down.

What I do know is, everyone in my family has suffered a joblessness or their employer going under at least once. I've also had one prepper friend who lost his job, and his supplies saved him from starving or getting kicked out of the house while looking for work. In this economy this seems like a guaranteed emergency, so if you are not prepared, cover a 3-6 month job loss NOW.

Alongside this, friends are a big deal and also a priority; I've gotten jobs from professional colleagues recommending me, and vise versa. Similarly, when I was an MGTOW I was in a tight-knit online community such that any time I traveled, there was an open door for me to stay the night on most major highways. If you can nail these two down you are farther ahead than 90% of the population already.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:52 | 6529801 JuliaS
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"If you don't know how to protect yourself, you'll just be gathering supplies for the toughest guy on the block."

- Bill Burr

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:12 | 6529867 falconflight
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That's why you shoot first and ask questions later.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:20 | 6529892 BandGap
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Over the past 5 years I have given each of the kids their own gun. We fire these on a reglar basis, They know how to shoot and clean.

Buy-in and ownership go a lng way when mobilizing the squd,

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:11 | 6529854 shovel ready
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i was in the army 20+ years ago. i have had all kinds of training and experience. but never combat.

 

i feel pretty confident that my training will kick back in and i will 'methodically work the problem' - should i ever need to.

 

i have never had a shot fired at me in anger. i had a dog attack me once and i got out of it ok - but fucking hell - the adrenaline kicks in HARD (it feels like primitive parts of the brain just 'light up') and keeping your head on straight is not easy. 

 

to be honest i have wondered - if the day comes and a human being is seriously set on putting holes in me - will it be like the dog and half my training will do me not a shred of good as i work to simply keep my wits about me....

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:11 | 6530012 38BWD22
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I was NOT in the Armed Forces.  

And I wonder the same, could I really shoot someone?  Really?  In a home invasion, probably, but who the hell knows?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 01:39 | 6530182 falconflight
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Look, I started out getting upset shooting the possum and raccoons we've trapped to protect our chickens.  Many would probably LOL and say what a pussy.  Maybe, but living in a highly urbanized/suburban lifestyle for your whole life with no role model outside of that construct requires a conscious effort to change direction and stretch your brain.  Those animals look defenseless and cute in the live traps, but can't let them destroy a potentially vital food source and anyway, those fuckers don't even eat the chickens.  They just kill them and mutilate the bodies.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:11 | 6530016 MsCreant
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Who ever marked this comment down is dishonest with themselves. This is a sane thing to wonder.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:24 | 6531251 Sockshow Puppethand
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Whomever downvoted Shovel Ready's earnest pondering on the question of instinctive response adequacy is probably not a person, per se, but resembles something more closely akin to a run script error.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 07:14 | 6530452 New_Meat
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shovelready: wrt "adrenaline" -- when the Watertown Police cornered the Marathon bombers, they had two cars nearby to respond.  Each car had a rifle in front with the fancy clip-in safety feature so you have to sit correctly and push the latches correctly.  Neither officer was able to extract the rifle (would have saved us millions obtw) so they went into the fight with their service pistols.  And expended all rounds with like 1 hit.

Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.

- Ned

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:26 | 6529904 silver_stacker
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25 Must Have Survival Foods: Put Them In Your Pantry Now

Keep in mind, that water is your most important prep. You need water for consumption, food preparation, and for sanitary needs. Ensure that you have a large quantity of water stored away for emergency use.

Stock up on the following items today to get your prepper pantry ready for the next extended emergency:

1. Canned fruits, vegetables, meats, and soups
2. Dried legumes (beans, lentils, peas)
3. Crackers
4. Nuts
5. Pasta sauce
6. Peanut butter
7. Pasta
8. Flour (white, whole wheat)
9. Seasonings (vanilla, salt, pepper, paprika, cinnamon, pepper, taco seasoning, etc.)
10. Sugar
11. Bouillon cubes or granules (chicken, vegetable, beef)
12. Kitchen staples (baking soda, baking powder, yeast, vinegar)
13. Honey
14. Unsweetened cocoa powder
15. Jell-O or pudding mixes
16. Whole grains (barley, bulgur, cornmeal, couscous, oats, quinoa, rice, wheat berries)
17. Nonfat dried milk
18. Plant-based oil (corn oil, vegetable oil, coconut oil, olive oil)
19. Cereals
20. Seeds for eating and sprouting
21. Popcorn (not the microwavable kind)
22. Instant potato flakes
23. Packaged meals (macaroni and cheese, hamburger helper, Ramen noodles, etc.)
24. Purified drinking water
25. Fruit juices, teas, coffee, drink mixes

Use this list as a starting point on beginning or extending your preparedness pantry- and don’t feel handcuffed to only stocking up on these items. Always keep your family’s food preferences and dietary needs in mind when investing in your food supply. It would be extremely advantageous to have a two week supply (at a minimum) of these shelf stable food items on hand to care for your family. To see how much your family would need, click here.

http://readynutrition.com/resources/25-must-have-survival-foods-put-them-in-your-pantry-now_03042013/

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:01 | 6529990 ShakaZulu
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Spam, sardines, and spagetti.  No need to make it complicated.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 01:54 | 6530208 El Vaquero
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The importance of water cannot be overstated, especially if you're like me and stay fairly warm in the winter and sweat your ass off in the summer.  I did a 7 mile round trip hike this summer where I went through over a gallon and was still thirsty at the end.  If you're exerting yourself, you can go through water like mad. 

If shit really blows up and we get knocked back to a 18th or 19th century way of life, the biggest use of water will be growing food.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 06:38 | 6530404 NOTW777
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If you want true preparedness for anything, seek Jesus.  He is the ONLY salvation.  The coming financial collapse will look like kindergarten compared to hell and the coming wrath.  regardless of what is going on in the world, you could die today - are you prepared?  do you know what will happen to you?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 06:59 | 6530425 Adahy
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What my grandfather didn't teach me, these guys did.
2 excellent, informative channels for the serious survivalist:

https://www.youtube.com/user/wildernessoutfitters/videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/Nativesurvival/videos

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:05 | 6529631 booboo
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I purchased two septic tanks, one for me and one for my wife, now I just need to figure out how to drive and fire the damned things.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:35 | 6529720 MATA HAIRY
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you might consider getting another septic tank for your wife ... no offense intended

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:08 | 6529636 xcehn
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And, get out of Dodge while you still can, because the urban areas are going to be mayhem. I realise, easier said than done.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:28 | 6529697 tarheeler
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Exactly! New Orleans, Fergeson and Baltimore have proven you do NOT want to be in an urban setting  when the economy collapses.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:40 | 6529747 papa_lazarou
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yeah but you'll miss out on opportunities to get teevee sets real cheap if you leave too early...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 08:31 | 6530602 Thick Willy
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No, those situations proved what everyone should already know - you don't want to be around large numbers of black people EVER.  Especially without large numbers of strong white men with badges to protect you from the dindu savages.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:25 | 6529903 Ms No
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I have a diesel with a massive tank and auxillary diesel storage on the truck and I could probably whip up some more in a pinch, so I think I could make it across the west without needing to refill but shit that sounds exausting.  Plus I am so close to a food supply here, the zombies will be coming out of Phoenix day and night and I will need a lot of food for my dog.  I guess on the bright side, if it happens when it's 115 out there wont be problems for very long, you could probably die of heat in your own home at that point. 

You guys just have way more of a survival instinct than I have.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:01 | 6529991 Whodathunkit
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These things will help fend off the zombies

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6EKNGdRzEl4

diesel can be used as a fuel source.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:11 | 6530013 xcehn
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“Do you know what it means to be a survivor? It means that not only do you have to live through things, you have to live with them as well. The second part is much harder and sometimes it takes the rest of your life to learn how to do it. But at least you have the rest of your life…”
Josephine Angelini, Firewalker
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/survival?page=9

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:21 | 6530038 Ms No
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I have been running from economic turmoil for a long time and I always moving for work and I am just tired of running around.  Quality of life matters and I am female, and I would like to think stunningly good looking ( ; so if things go Mad Max 4.0 and stay that way for a long period I wouldn't really give two shits to make it through the ordeal.  I doubt it will really get that bad and it's not a sad thing but just a real thing.  I would probably put a bullseye on my roof above my bed that said political dissident lives here--->  I am not going anywhere I don't want to that's one thing I do know.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 00:40 | 6530088 xcehn
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Survival may be overrated in the coming global collapse, but by how much is anyone's guess. I'm thinking years, not months. I agree it may be too long of a haul to want to make. Of course, maybe we should be more concerned with an extinction event instead.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 11:25 | 6531284 PTR
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Well, the Earth's magnetic poles are reversing, which sticking to the 350-400 year cycle means that we're due for a cooling period.  Suspicious0bservers had a good vid on this. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 01:16 | 6530141 falconflight
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Look for most Americans, a decline in living standards; say one old car (Maybe), a few sets of clothing, not eating out, a dwelling typical for the 1920's... a basic lifestyle w/o any of the trappings of  affluence would be a shocking existence and probably would be considered TEOTWAWKI.  I will admit to it.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 01:57 | 6530213 El Vaquero
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Yeah, it would be a helluva shock to most, but some people will settle into it rather quickly.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 03:07 | 6530276 Adahy
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I actually quite enjoy it.  I can't imagine the kind of high-stress, distracted existence that many feel are 'high living standards'.
No drama simple life.  Just enjoy being alive and cherish your relationships with others; it's all that really matters in the end anyway.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 03:20 | 6530294 El Vaquero
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Eh, I have a big project that I'm working on right now for way too little pay, but the thing about it is, I enjoy it, and I set my own hours.  If it takes a few years for SHTF, then I've done a lot of the groundwork for more future income to get by a bit better than I am now, and if not, well, I enjoy it.  I probably wrote 1500 lines of code yesterday, debugged it to the point that it is useable today, and wrote about another 1500 lines today.  Tomorrow, I should start getting the portion that I"m working on more integrated so that I can do more debugging, then start integrating it with everything else.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:13 | 6529654 nmewn
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Its bad form to pimp your site here, kid. Even worse to do it aggressively. I know, I know...it's all fists & feathers trying to "save the fucking planet" and all that bullshit but, it's just bad form.

You should have taken some marketing classes while you were at it ;-)

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:59 | 6529829 Buster Cherry
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Where's http:/michaelkelly.com/2015/5/29-mysister-sucks-cocks-for-cigareetes?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 12:39 | 6531623 zuuma
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going down. Constanly.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:07 | 6529639 nmewn
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Learn A Trade Skill

lol...wut? Regulators, bureaucrats, tenured professors, economists, TV talking heads, politicians and bit coin miners will have to actually get up off their ass and do something productive?

Never! This shit show must go on!

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:11 | 6529645 44MagnumPrepper
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I thought middle management was a trade skill.  Post collapse, there will always be people that need to be told what to do by someone that doesn't have the skills to actually do it themselves, right?

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 22:19 | 6529672 nmewn
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Fortunately some of us middle management types have blue collar skills (and never sold our tools for a vacation or a motorcycle) that we were raised with. 

Post collapse I won't be telling anyone what to do, in all honesty, I'll be taking their shit because they were to fucking stupid to do as I advised pre-collapse, I'm not a saint or a savior.

It really won't be my problem.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:10 | 6529849 falconflight
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Can't wait to see you (Those of your ilk) impaled on a pole with a sign: Thief (Murderer)  Can't believe you would say, think, plan, implement such a mentality.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:29 | 6529918 Miffed Microbio...
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It doesn't have to be so graphic. There was a lot of looting here during a large fire in 2002. Many people were hit. We put out a sign " Looters will be shot. Have a nice day :-)" and didn't have any problems.

Miffed;-)

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 02:10 | 6530226 Nostradumbass
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So you were in a location where looters could read... nice.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:53 | 6533276 nmewn
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Like I told Crockett, the only justice in post-collapse will come from the end of my barrel, the tip of my knife and the point of my arrow 

You better be more cunning, stronger and faster than me  or that'll be your head on a stake ;-)

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:09 | 6529853 Billy the Poet
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in all honesty, I'll be taking

 

If you won't trade value for value I'd agree that you're no saint but rather a thief. If you do plan to trade value for value then why the agressive attitude?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 06:56 | 6530420 nmewn
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Ahhh but Billy, look what I just did, I have attempted to trade value for value and have gotten nothing but scorn in the exchange, I gave everyone something they thought they wanted, I gave them the truth but when they held it up for everyone else to see and admire, to congradulate them on the wonderful trade they made, it was then collectively decided that truth was a bad trade, how odd.

There is no internet post-collapse, no electricity grid, no municipal running water, no McDonalds and finally, thankfully, no EBT. Fully three quarters (or more) of my down voters have never fixed or created anything without the use of fucking duct tape, they were too busy calling people with real LIFE SKILLS uneducated rednecks, rubes, don't you remember? "But I have a masters degree in..."...lmao!...pompous, pretentious assholes do not impress me.

They would electrocute themselves trying to replace a breaker, maim themselves trying to fix a lawnmower or car, flood the house trying to fix a leak, poison themselves trying to grow a fucking bean, cannot navigate/travel without a street sign or pilot and these are the people I'm supposed to "trade" with?

No, I've (we've) given them all the advice they're going to get, they freely chose to be bleating little sheep and buy their i-shit.

As I said, it's not my problem, it'll be theirs.

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:24 | 6529900 Miffed Microbio...
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Funny how so many men today can't do home projects.

I had to laugh my head off when a work associate paid $ 1200 to replace a leaking hot water heater ( had to pay for extra work cuz the guy claimed it wasn't up to code...hmmm). Mr was incredulous. Why didn't her husband go to Home Depot and do it himself? Um, he's an executive and doesn't have a tool box. I've met the guy. He's about 100lbs overweight and his hands look softer than mine. I guess when you are accustomed to buying any service you need, the idea expanding your skill set as a handyman doesn't seem necessary.

Frankly, I haven't a clue how that section of society will make out in any crisis. He has nothing to barter in any real world scenario. This may end worse than the Donner Party if things go truly bad.

Miffed;-)

Wed, 09/09/2015 - 23:54 | 6529960 Calmyourself
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That is incredible!!  We live in a nice area #1 zip code in income entire state.  I changed the brakes on my wife's car the other day as my daughters friend was dropped off for a play date, idiot father in a Mercedes had absolutely no clue what I was doing was amazed those little pads stopped his car...

While haughtily sniffing over our pedestrian Honda SUV noted it cost him over a 1k to do the brakes on the Mercedes SUV, what a TOOL..

BTW, men you should be abe to sweat in a new H20 heater withing 3 hours and that is carrying out the old one as well, if you cannot,  start reading, the world is in that box your staring at...

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