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Russia Sends More Tank Landing Ships, Military Aircraft To Syria
On Wednesday, Jean-Claude Juncker unveiled Europe’s preliminary “plan” to try and cope with the massive influx of asylum seekers fleeing the violence in war-torn Syria. Brussels’ approach to the crisis will reportedly involve a list of so-called “safe countries of origin.” As WSJ reported earlier today, migrants from those countries who are denied asylum will be subject to fast-track repatriation.” Here’s what we said about the proposed “safe” countries list:
Because there are "safe" countries of origin that must mean there’s a list of "unsafe" countries of origin as well, and we can only assume that list includes Syria, which Europe will make safer by bombing it.
That was a reference to reports out earlier this week that suggested French President Francois Hollande's response to Europe’s biggest refugee crisis since World War II would involve bombing the very place from which the refugees are fleeing. Here’s what Bloomberg (and Hollande himself) said on Monday:
Hollande is seeking a response to Europe’s biggest refugee crisis since World War II in tune with public opinion that remains largely hostile to a massive increase in immigration.
“I’ve asked the minister of defense to begin reconnaissance flights over Syria from tomorrow that would allow for strikes against the Islamic State,” Hollande said at a press conference in Paris on Monday. Hollande, who ruled out sending troops, said Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad is an impediment to peace in the country.
In many ways, this looks like a replay of the infamous YouTube chemical weapons videos which were supposed to serve as the original pretext for Western strikes on the Assad regime. That is, the US and its allies are determined to find the right mix of propaganda to justify a ground incursion and this time around, that mix will apparently include heart-wrenching pictures of migrants. As we said on Tuesday, the real tragedy here is that now, the pitiable plight of Syria's beleaguered masses will be used as an excuse to cause them still more pain and suffering.
Well sure enough, on Wednesday, we got still more evidence that Western Europe is set to join the US and Turkey (and soon Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Qatar) in conducting bombing raids in Syria. Here’s WSJ:
Faced with a burgeoning refugee crisis in Europe sparked by global extremism, U.S. and European officials said Tuesday there is a growing consensus that the multinational military campaign against Islamic State must focus more on targeting the group’s nerve centers in Syria.
With thousands of people flowing into Europe every day, France and England are both poised to set aside long-standing reservations and join Washington in carrying out airstrikes against Islamic State in Syria.
Western nations and U.S. allies also are responding to rising concerns about extremists in Syria planning attacks on European targets, such as a thwarted attempt last month by a lone gunman to kill passengers on a Paris-bound train.
That attack was a key factor for France in deciding to launch reconnaissance missions over Syria. French President François Hollande said Monday that his military is poised to carry out airstrikes in Syria.
On Tuesday, government officials in London said the British military also is prepared to continue targeting Islamic State extremists in Syria suspected of plotting attacks in England. The pledge came after the U.K. announced its first targeted airstrikes in Syria, which killed two British extremists.
Prime Minister David Cameron has renewed his push to convince a reluctant Parliament to clear the way for England to carry out broader airstrikes against Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, which has established its de facto capital in the city of Raqqa, Syria.
How France and the UK plan to explain, if pressed, the logic behind the idea that dropping more bombs on Syria should leave Syrians more predisposed to reminaing in the country as opposed to fleeing to Europe is anyone's guess, but even WSJ is starting to pick up on the fact that the timing here looks rather convenient, as the UK and France are now set to throw their respective air forces into the mix just as Russia moves to provide Assad with badly needed reinforcements at Latakia. Here's WSJ again:
As Europe deepens its involvement, Russia appears to be increasing its military role in Syria. U.S. military officials said Tuesday that Russia has sent in new planes, personnel and equipment in what appears to be an effort to set up a new air hub on the Syrian coast.
American officials are concerned the Russian buildup is an attempt by Moscow to provide more air support for embattled Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, but Moscow’s intentions aren’t yet clear. The moves by Moscow could increase the risk that members of the U.S.-led coalition could face off against Russian jets in the skies above Syria.
Speaking of Russia and their expanded presence, it now looks as though the Kremlin may soon abandon all pretense that its soldiers are not in Syria to fight - although obviously, no one on either side is yet prepared to drop the ISIS charade that has served, from the beginning, as the smokescreen politicians use to keep the public hyptnotized and blissfully unaware of their respective governments' real geopolitical agendas. Here's Bloomberg:
Russia said it’s ready to look at measures to fight Islamist insurgents in Syria if the conflict worsens, rejecting U.S. criticism of its deepening military involvement in the Middle Eastern country.
“Russia has never made a secret out of its military cooperation with Syria,” Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova Zakharova said in Moscow. “Russian specialists are helping Syrians to use Russian equipment. It’s difficult to understand the anti-Russian hysteria in this regard.”
And then from Reuters:
Russia has sent two tank landing ships and additional aircraft to Syria in the past day or so and has deployed a small number of forces there, U.S. officials said on Wednesday, in the latest signs of a military buildup that has put Washington on edge.
The two U.S. officials, who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity, said the intent of Russia's military moves in Syria remained unclear.
U.S. officials have not ruled out the possibility that Moscow may be laying the groundwork for an air combat role in Syria's conflict to bolster Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
And still more:
Russian military experts have expanded their presence in Syria over the last year, a Syrian military official said on Wednesday, pointing to a deepening of ties which Washington fears may be a buildup to support President Bashar al-Assad.
"Russian experts are always present but in the last year they have been present to a greater degree," the Syrian official said. "All aspects of the relationship are currently being developed, including the military one," he said.
Finally, Germany has now "warned" Moscow to tread lightly in its support of Assad:
Germany's foreign minister warned Russia on Wednesday against increased military intervention in Syria, saying the Iran nuclear deal and new U.N. initiatives offered a starting point for a political solution to the Syrian conflict.
Has you can see from the above, ISIS - the reason everyone involved cites when asked to explain their interest in intervening militarily in Syria - tends to get lost in the shuffle. That's not a coincidence. Rather, it simply reflects the fact that, as we noted over the weekend, neither side cares too much about what does or doesn’t happen to Islamic State unless the group’s fate somehow matters in determining whether a post-civil war Syria is still governed by Assad. In short, ISIS has played its role. The Assad regime is destabilized and Damascus is up for grabs. From here on out, it’s all about whether a coalition comprised of the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Qatar ends up in a direct military conflict with Russia and the Assad regime.
If you need a bit of anecdotal evidence to support that assessment, just ask people on the ground, many of whom can't seem to understand, what with all the fanfare about stepped up airstrikes and a more determined coalition, why no one seems to be fighting ISIS. Once more, from WSJ:
Islamic State fighters intensified their advance in recent days on a town in northern Syria close to a vital supply route for Syrian rebels near the border with Turkey, according to opposition rebels and local residents.
A number of rebel factions are struggling to stave off the militants, who have been gradually encircling the town of Marea about 15 miles south of the Turkish border. Marea is a key town along a 60-mile stretch of the border that Turkey and the U.S. want to clear of Islamic State fighters and the group’s offensive appears aimed at thwarting those efforts.
On Friday, Islamic State briefly entered the town, only to be beaten back by rebels, Marea residents and rebels said. But the rebels have lost three villages.
Though the U.S. and Turkey have said they want to oust Islamic State from this area, rebels in the Marea area say they are battling the militants on their own and complain they have not received much support from either country.
“We are fighting ISIS by ourselves,” said Abu Firas, referring to Islamic State by one of its acronyms. near Marea in the last month.
Marea is near the so-called "ISIS-free" zone that the US and Turkey sought to establish last month after Erdogan effectively traded Washington access to Incirlik (which gives the US army a forward operating base for what will eventually be a ground incursion in Syria) for NATO’s acquiescence to the extermination of the Kurdish opposition in Turkey. Of course ISIS might have already been routed from the area were it not for the fact that Washington and Ankara have literally forbidden the Kurdish YPG from continuing their highly successful offensive along the Turkish border due to Turkey's disdain for anything and everything Kurd-related. Given that, one would think that the very least Turkey would do, if it were genuinely concerned about ISIS that is, is make a concerted effort to stop towns like Marea from being captured but instead, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's army is off chasing the PKK in the mountains of Northern Iraq.
If you think this is a "friggin' mess" (to quote the Pentagon) now, just wait until the UK, France, and Germany get involved in the face of an increasingly obstinate Russia.
This folks, is the worst circle of foreign policy hell, and it's brought to you exclusively by governments' never-ending struggle to gain leverage over one another by controlling the distribution of the world's energy supply.
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Can we get on WW3 already, i'm tired of waiting. Where are the false flags? Get the show on the road. MIC is getting impatient
...Russia or China will suddenly bomb the Sh*t out of Qatar or Saudi Arabia ... then Pffft,
no more available supply of gas or oil for Europe/USSA to make war with.
Isis?
Sorry Russia, only room for ome imperial power on this planet
How do you say "go fuck yourself" in Russian?
Poshel nahuy (????? ?????), probably
Russia: Make Me
Don't understand you.
The problem is, Russia could wipe out ISIS in Syria by lunch time tomorrow, which would either demonstrate the Eneptness of the US Military, or that ISIS is truly a tool of the West
Russian alphabet doesn't display but here's Google Translate:
https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&sl=en&tl=en#en/ru/go%20fuck%20yourself
What do you get when combine IS and the Raelians?
It’s all good - the Rooskies will pull out..
right after they give up Crimea and Sevastopol.
Ah hell. A couple of landing craft and a few planes....pffft. C'mon Vlad, send a couple of divisions along with heavy artillery and full air support and air defense. Make it known that Syria is now off-limits to ZATO.
They're not supposed to fight off a US invasion, they're supposed to die in a US invasion.
Same reason the US deployed a handful of troops to the Baltic recently.
Same reason the US has a couple divisions in the DMZ in Korea, where they'd be annihilated on day one of a war.
Operation Tripwire.
I wasn't aware that Syria had actually done anything to anyone to deserve being bombed and invaded? That means that under International law, all such actions by the US and its vassals is illegal. I know that The US does not recognise International law, including the Geneva Conventions, but I thought that The EU had at least some pretence of respecting the law?
The real US target is, of course, Russia via the Qatari gas pipeline which would be built through Syria to the Eastern Med so it shouldn't come as any surprise that Russia is defending its own interests?
"I wasn't aware that Syria had actually done anything to anyone to deserve being bombed and invaded?"
It didn't obey orders from DC with sufficient enthusiam.
"That means that under International law, all such actions by the US and its vassals is illegal. I know that The US does not recognise International law, including the Geneva Conventions, but I thought that The EU had at least some pretence of respecting the law?"
LOL, international law..
"The real US target is, of course, Russia via the Qatari gas pipeline which would be built through Syria to the Eastern Med so it shouldn't come as any surprise that Russia is defending its own interests?"
I agree that the real target's Russia, not so sure it's about this pipeline. If one wants to get Gulf gas to Europe, there are routes other than through Syria. I think it's more about eliminating Iranian influence in Syria, so that Israel won't be attacked when the US eventually invades Iran. The long-game of all that being to get up into Russia's soft Muslim underbelly and unleash chaos, for some eventual color revolution in Moscow. But who really knows? Anyway, yes, it's no surprise that Russia's defending its own interests.
If it were up to me, on the US side, I'd abandon these dreams of global domination and end the war in Syria (and Ukraine) tomorrow afternoon. Alas, my overlords in the capital are not so magnanimous...
What is it with the downvoltes these days? Does anyone else notice that the trolls are more numerous? They aren't followed with any counter arguments. Is this a new government jobs program -- like they get a commission per down vote.
What do you mean Syria has done anything to anyone to deserve being bombed and invaded ? Syria is located in the middle East close to the Chossen people. That alone is sin enough. Then you have Assad there ruling Syria instead of countries like Iraq where the country is ruled by the Zionist/US appointed puyppet. ISRAEL uber alla !!
Exactly right; the whole propaganda thing now is that this is about Energy, as if that's enough to scare people into supporting a Western led miitary invasion of Syria. And it's never been about terrorism either. These are just two of the cover stories going on in the MSM. No, it's about Israeli control of the middle east, via it's Western controlled puppet governments as admitted by that famous dual citizen and former executive director of the 911 Commission Phillip Zelikow concerning the real reason for the US invasion of Iraq
https://noorslist.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/9-11-report-commissioner-zelikow-admits-war-was-for-threat-against-israel/
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it#9.2F11_Commission:_Zionist_controlled
http://www.bushstole04.com/911/all_roads_israel.htm
That's why this latest Russian move is CHECKMATE on the real reason for the endless 'war on terror'. With Russia controlling a piece of the ME next to Israel and other swaths of the ME via it's Iranian ally, the stakes have been raised by a factor of 100 or so. Cameron is going apoplectic; Hollande is actiing crazy but neither cares! The next few days will decide the success or defeat of the Israeli plan to control the entire ME.
Thank the great charioteer in the sky, that Obama is the US president at this juncture. The man wants nothing to do with the Zionists who despise him anyway after he chickened out when faced with his having to order US commanders to shoot cruise missles over Russian ships into Syria 2 years ago. Nuclear war between the US and Russia is not going to happen. Due to Putin's grasp of the situation, Israeli's delusional plans to control the ME are going down in flames. Yemen will be the neutralization of Saudia Arabia as an Israeli ally as well, because the Saudi's are going to be bankrupted as will their Gulf state playboy friends.
The MSM reporting has been defending US/NATO opposition to Russia fighting ISIS. It's so obviously illogical that even dumbed down Americans are now understanding what's been really going on all these years since the 'war on terror' was thrust upon them. Many are beginning to wake up from their slumber. But wll the great mass of them really ever understand that the Zionists control their governernment, as they have their financial institutions and media for over a century? And what can they do about it even if they understand?
I don't like Obama either, but the man wants to retire and play golf, not end his second term having triggered a nuclear war. He can't play golf on ashes!
All any nation has to say is "no" and they're up for complete destruction.
Waaay back in the 50's the Cuban Presidente Batista said "no" once too often. He said "yes" most of the time, but not enough, then he started using the "no" with more frequency. So as usual, they looked around for an angry, disenfrancied Cuban whom they were sure would say "yes" all the time.
After their anointed one took power, wouldn't you know it he started with the same bad "no" habit. At that time, our sugar was almost exclusively Cuban, so the DC geniuses threatened their newest water boy by telling him that if he didn't straighten out, we would cut back on sugar imports by half.
As usual, DC miscalculated badly. The new ruler shot back that we wasn't going to sell us one bag, and there were plenty of other markets to make up for the loss. Our idiots had to scramble to find other sugar sources, and the population was put on sugar rations.
That was just the start. An embargo was imposed but Cuba was never a threat to us. Power abuse is widely distributed among our leaders, brains not so much.
What do you get when combine IS and the Raelians?
Third Raelians?
"ISIS is truly a tool of the West"
Kindly brought to you by US and EU. The humanitarian aid consisting of bombs, ammo and military equipment is so well appreciated by the Syrian population, they decided to leave for the EU.
Ya just can't make it up when someone is trying to kill you with kindness.
Close enough. Weird that ZH doesn't support Cyrillic, but thank the dogs we can't post pictures.
Exactly. I have a feeling all the house accounts would be posting pics of Icahn all day long.... so better off without.
israel is going to ...
Sit this one out (mostly) and pick up the left over pieces.
If Hezbollah loses its Syrian supply lines.... They could start a rocket barrage with Israel. That WOULD bring Israel into the war.
Bring Israel into the war ? Isreal started all these. Refugee be damned.
polshyol na hui is like F you
Literally, go on a dick.
It's not quite the same. It's a bit pyedeek, not that there's anything wrong with that.
Ok, thx. I will try and see how it works the next time I meet a "Maidan-was-it-worth" sucker.
Yub tvaya zhopa.
Go fuck your own ass.
vas yob
Wouldn't it be funny if Qatar, Saudi Arabia and ISRAEL got together and built their own pipeline (much of it under the Med) to Europe?
That would re-shuffle the deck...
Hmm, under the ocean wonder if something might happen to it? Maybe a whale would bump it..
Take a look at a seismic map for the part of the Med it would have to traverse.
That's why.
I'll do just that.
ThanksChump! :)
Not a lot better for a Syrian land pipeline.
that whole region is earquake central.
Reuters say Russia sent two tank landing ships there? Who gives a fuck about stupid-assed tank landing ships?
Russian submarine with 20 ICBMs and 200 nuclear warheads is sailing to Syria
Yeah it's Debka file, but Tel Aviv is a target if Israel tries any of their usual clownfuckery if it threatens Russia's interests. Bibi is all butt-hurt when he can't be the regional bully with impunity or have his little U.S. congressional bitches back him up.
The Debka File report was from a couple of days ago. The Dmitri Donskoy has since entered the Agean Sea and is only a day or two away from Tartus if that's where it's going. I'm not sure they would actually dock it there, if that's possible. Not that it matters. The Bulava ICMBs can reach half-way around the globe. They don't need to be anywhere near Syria to protect Russian interests there. 'Northern Hemisphere' is close enough.
"Tel Aviv is a target"
That would be Israel Turkey and SA >> gods lips to your ears stuff.
http://warfare.be/0702ey70/ships/3/donskoy.jpg
Russian submarine.... Friggin massive!
Once saw a PR type interior tour, you know haapy sailors and all that crap.
It has a communal hot tub.
It is actually on its way to destroy the nets of the UK fishing fleet. That will teach the US-ass sucking UK govt.
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/russian.rt.com/article/114032
The Russians have released a video of the sub on its way through the Black Sea, and its handling of the US-Ukraine naval exercise going on there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkprGb27wbE
The only likely BS in the Debka File article is the hype about its destination: Syria. The Dmitri Donskoy, like any nuke submarine with SLBMs, could be in New York and still have the entire Middle East covered. Russia probably just sent it to the Mediterranean, just like they have been doing with their nuke subs for the last fifty years and just like the U.S. does. I find it hard to believe that Debka File is privy to the destinations of Russia's nuclear fleet.
If they did actually bring it in to Tartus, it would be mostly for show - a 'message' to whomever might decide to fuck with Syria. It's probably more of a risk to Russia to endanger the thing by having it near Syria or surfaced. Docking the Dmitri Donskoy has absolutely no practical purpose as far as the Bulavas go - it could only be a risk to the sub.
On the other hand, say they were planning on finally sending some of those nice, new S-300s that Syria bought from Russia a while back. With the Dmitri Donskoy sitting in port, the Israelis wouldn't dare risk an air strike at the port or anywhere near the area, for that matter. That would be interpreted by Russia as a threat to one of their largest nuclear subs, and would be sure to draw a Russian response that Israel would regret. That's assuming an Israeli jet or missile could even get anywhere close to Tartus.
Just park the Admiral Nakhimov off the coast and everybody will chill the fuck out.
http://rbth.com/defence/2014/10/31/admiral_nakhimov_to_become_most_power...
A real beauty. Nice.
Something in place to take out Israel's Dolphins (thx Germany, WWI and WWII were enough) would be quite reassuring.
A ballistic missile submarine is not intended to hunt other submarines, just FYI.
That's assuming an Israeli jet or missile could even get anywhere close to Tartus.
Nuke subs are not noted for their air defense capabilities.
Yup, no navy would ever release the intended destination of its boomer. The US and Soviets spent the entire Cold War chasing each other around trying to locate the other side's.
Putin is a man who supports his own people and country plus his friends like the Syrian people.
The Euro-Peon leaders and other wester leaders plus the evil scum in America sell their own people out at EVERY turn. F Them!
Plus he helped Snowden when the most transparent ever freedom-ers were about tar and feather him for taking the lid off of the Matrix.
Do you think he could help us expand the footprint of Liberland?
Any leader who will not sell out his own people is no leader.
Ask the Russian oligarchs.
"The Euro-Peon leaders and other wester leaders plus the evil scum in America sell their own people out at EVERY turn. F Them!"
Until they need cannon fodder at the front, wherever the "New" front happens to be.
Bring on the clownfuckery!
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131006120349/mlp/images/7/7e/The_Jo...
You don't park ICBMs next to the target. If anything this means Europe is the target.
The nukes on that sub can hit anywhere in Europe or the Middle East from the Black Sea, no need to move it to the Med for that purpose.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/By87xo1IUAA5_M2....
No available anything...Nothing but dead people.
Qatar would be enough.
Wars are fought in a different way nowadays.
You send strong young men with military training as tourists or refugees to foreign countries. After a while, you post a message on your Facebook wall "The time has come".
Never send a boy to do man's work.
Proxy wars that stagnate eventually escalate to direct conflict between powers funding them. This is what we see now.
Spanish Civil War. Was the most important event of the 20th century, and Syria rhymes with it way too closely (no anarchists unfortunately).
The news out of Spain and the shouting over the looming Catalonia elections and prospect of Catalonia declaring secession may presage a resumption of the Spanish Civil War in 2015 or 2016.
"Can we get on with ww3 already,..."
What do you mean? It's already underway. It's being fought Covertly. Soon to be fought out in the open for all the world to suffer, depopulate & see.
Simply open your drapes and plug in the popcorn machine.
good news for ya: no need of a popcorn machine in a few years..... corn goes pop from the sweltering heat of an artificial sun - no more electric bills !
They can't think of a original idea to kick it off , everyone is on to them. But they will
Maybe it's time for Russia to tell Germany and France to shut the f*ck up.
not sure that will happen. historically too much trade and cooperation between france-germany-russia. think it's just the political pressure form usa that made them say it. 90% sure the back chanels knew such a comment was going to be made.
germany has a very peculiar place in european relations and history - thinking us/anglo-saxon politicians are forgetting that.
Sorry, I don't buy that. France has been telling the US to "go fuck yourself" pretty much until Obama took office.
Now they suddenly bend to political pressure?
No. They have their own agenda. Most likely they play nice because they have run their own country into the ground with French version of socialism and open borders.
As for Germany, I don't even know what to think...only nation attempting suicide.
"germany has a very peculiar place in european relations and history"
Germany is NOT what it used to be. Whatever martial prowess they possessed in their past stayed in the past. Every German administraion after 1945 has done everything possible to prevent another Nazi revival. Now even a "conservative" govt. like Angela Merkel's is more suggestive of a socially liberal political entity with policies to match.
If an armed conflict were to occur in Europe, only Americans will be at the frontlines. The British have already decimated their armed forces under a Conservative govt. and lack the resources to even protect itself. The French and Germans will be fighting under the bunkers.
agreed on both paragraphs. I do believe that germany won't fight russia. if push comes to shuff, they'll leave nato and other pacts before picking up arms. .org probably won't (since their pussies), but the population won't stand for it.
"Maybe it's time for Russia to tell Germany and France to shut the f*ck up."
The Russkis are already laughing themselves silly, just looking at the Germans and French sowing the seeds of their own destruction.
If the Russkis had any territorial ambitions in Europe, all they need to do, is roll in and take over in 30 years time. What resistance can a half-baked Barbarian horde accustomed to mindless pillage, rape and slaughter of UNARMED innocents do, to resist a disciplined well armed military machine ?
Careful what you wish for.
Go Russia !!
His sarcasm is 100% accurate. Who are the fools that down voted this precise assessment. We are being BOMBARDED with propaganda promoting another war, whether its Russia, China or the middle east. We get MULTIPLE stories each day that promote, foster and condone the next world war.
You sons of bitches that down voted him better get ready to send some of your relations overseas as cannon fodder. The braindead, zombies we have for thinking adults in this country can NOT resist the daily bombardment of propaganda from the MSM, government media and other sources.
Wishful thinking and praying to GOD is not going to stop it from happening. Thank your fellow braindead American for being so susceptible to MSM conditioining and brainwashing. CHOOSE NOW, one of your relatives that is going to be eligible for draft and give them their farewell party in advance. It would suggest that you can actually read the clues slapping you upside the head and ACT upon them.
The Russian's can't get involved, only WE are allowed to screw up the middle east......
There are information available that Russians have started to build airport base near Damaskus.
The EU should have let Russia buy out Greece or Cyprus.....
EU is under complete control of folks who run the US. They can't allow Russia to do anything, it would be against their interests and plans. Forget all the public propaganda, the real story is completely different.
Are you like their butler or something, hiding in majestic closets overhearing the Red Shield and their dastardly plans? Do tell....
Reuters: http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/09/07/mideast-crisis-syria-russia-idI...
Source is a reference to some newspaper in Lebanon
And http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/603453/Russia-air-base-Syria-Islamic... (Assad's wife looks pretty well here)
Express did not mention what is their source.
Since when do the Russians need approval from anybody in Europe to do their thing ? How exactly are the Europeans not going to allow Russia to do what it wants ? Inquisitive minds would like to know...
You're right, I rather meant they don't agree :)
"Inquisitive minds would like to know..."
Because the Russkis are not suicidal and they don't have the divine inspiration of Goldman Sachs.
You sure?
Yes, a new secure airfield. I believe Russia is helping Syria create a safe zone that is defensible against all attackers, and Syria will give up much land in order to be defensible. Russia will help secure the two ports, one of which is Russian naval base Tartus. Airfields must be put where they can't be attacked. Syria is looking to be smaller, a rump state with Assads supporters, christians, secular Arabs, even communists, anyone not wanting to be ISIS controlled is moving into Assad's safe zones. Russia is helping create this new, Syria.
Bingo
The US is not going to be able to oust Assad, nor is Assad going to be able to reassert control over zombieland. So, Syria get's divided. The sooner the US acknowledges this, and stops supporting ISI...er, the moderate rebel...the better.
...I'm not holding my breath though.
Russia in Syria would punch a big hole in the West's longstanding efforts to encircle them.
If Putin is committed to this, that is the reason. This is the equivalent of opening the Voentorg for the Donetzk Freedom Fighters. Assad must have been ready to abdicate and Putin is now committed to saving him and Russia's committments in the Mediterranean and ensuring no competing gas pipelines
It's kind of hard for the West to encircle Syria with Iran in control of most of Iraq...
Syria is the new Libya and US/NATO want a free hand to ruin the country
Assange to RT: 'US empire' planned to overthrow Syrian govt years before uprisinghttp://www.rt.com/news/314852-assange-wikileaks-us-syria/
We're supposed to believe that the Europeans do NOT want to be able to buy Russian gas/oil so badly they'll continue to support USSA causing a refugee crisis for them?
It's totally mental.
How about Juncker's multi-million dollar McMansion? Or his vacation home? Sounds like he'd like to host a few from these countries he has blasted back to the stone age. I'm sure the refugees are hungry and would appreciate those 7-course dinners+wine he regularly enjoys.
Are you talking about the people of Europe or the sock puppets running the EU?
Kinda both actually, which is a little disingenuous coming from a Murikan like me, powerless to stop his own gov from running roughshod over the whole world.
I wish there was something I could do, but don't know what it is. My apologies to the world, I don't approve of any of what's going on.
I don't approve either.
Make That Three... I Dissent...
Edgey...
Oh but surely the US was going to supply the EU singlehandedly using LPG tankers...? Nothing impractical or short term there!
Israel thinks that Syria is destined to belong to them (along with numerous other countries according to their Zionist nutter maps) they are simply clearing out what they consider undesirables and dumping them on Europe (which serves multiple puposes). Most likely they will send their vassals to claim their prize before long. They are not going to get away with this for much longer so I hope they are enjoying themselves.
Excuse me, but I imagine that ISIS knows that they will prevail. Are we, the brave and mighty USA, going to send our young boys to face capture, torture, and beheading? Me thinks not And once ISIS wins all of Syria, all of Irak, all of Lebanon, and all of Jordan... what's next? Do you imagine they will leave the Holy Land for the Chosen People? Me thinks the beheadings and crucifixtions will then be YouTube prime, and the flux of immigrants and refugees will be to New York.
Also, to add to the three ring shitshow... we have a September 11th style freeway shooter operating in the Phoenix area. I have a feeling Tylers are not going to be getting much sleep the next few weeks.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/arizona-authorities-investigate-9-freeway-shootings/ar-AAe6apy?ocid=ASUDHP
I think now is an opportune moment to practice the f*ck that meditation once again. "With each breath your thoughts become lighter and all of those soul eating cocksuckers just fall away.... those assholes cannot piss all over a purity like this..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92i5m3tV5XY&list=PLSqAnkfbFfCaFI30AXVBVeqmVLOw79seV
Didn't downvote you, it happened automatically when I upvoted. Program glitch.
You can always change your vote.
No biggie, I wouldn't hold it against you if you did. If you don't get some downvotes every now and then it just means your a kiss ass ( : By the way ISIS and the US are the same thing, I wasn't clear on if you knew that or not.
Anticipate much smiting.
That explains it.
if videos of beheadings are keeping the US from its usual military strategy, don't we begrudgingly have to acknowledge its success? As we have to do with 'suicide bombers".
After all the ISIS are out of a population who have known nothing but their own hatred and the hatred of others since 1948 and before.
The "ISIS beheadings" were a CIA/Mossad psy-op. Success? I guess it's still to early to tell.
The beheadings were aimed at getting US involved in destroying the Assad Government. Who knows how that will work out. Putin is certainly escalating the costs - as he should.
The chosen people are using their hospitals to
treat wounded members of ISIS.
The chosen people have chosen ISIS for a purpose.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/By87xo1IUAA5_M2....
The Jewish Plan for the Middle East, The Oded Yinon Plan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYrZkFEiY1I
“Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East
http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-mid...
Because any criticism of Israel or organized, international Jewry {as H. Ford put it} is simply dismissed and derided, a priori, as "anti-Semitism" - no one is discussing what should be obvious:
How strangely coincidental it is that ISIS is doing what the Zionist Right has long advocated for.
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
Bingo! That must have taken all of one second to figure out.
I googled to make a joke about France threatening Russia. Turns out France is 4-2-2 (no KOs) who'd have thought it?
Not good at all. Ya wonder how many times the elite have to blow up the planet before they realize that without the individual morality of the populace everybody is doomed.
Looks like China is setting in place their next form of economic warfare.
China goes directly at the petro-dollar with a new Yuan based oil market
http://www.examiner.com/article/china-goes-directly-at-the-petro-dollar-with-a-new-yuan-based-oil-market
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain (It's time to toss the dice)
The Daily Economist
Wake me up where there is a dog fight. I wanna see who runs the sky.
Water cannons do, until then just sit back and enjoy the show.
The SU-35 could prove a tough customer.
Maybe but not for a while. There are only a few around and production capacity is only 14 a year!
I think you are thinking about the SU-30SM a very capable aircraft.
Yeah. They can try out those new "F" something or other flying cast iron bathtubs.
Fulcram and flankers, raptors, eagles and typhons bout time to see who has bragging rights
Didn't all this happen once before?
Sure was. Many times probably
World War, first as tragedy, twice as farce, thrice as unhinged gibbering schizoid insanity.
unhinged gibbering schizoid insanity
Yeah baby
Attribution, damn it!
Sincerely,
Cthulhu
"unhinged gibbering schizoid insanity" - the T shirt
or BSOD - berserker shriek of denial
Zios behind all three "world wars" what a coincidence!
Brits:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-07/bed-despotic-house-saud#comment...
Since when does a German or French threat carry any weight? They've already declared war on themselves by adopting socialism, and they are losing.
Pollacks didn't carry much weight either, but were used to start WW2
same pulling the strings..
Carried enough weight to kick
the Soviet Union's ass in the 1919-1921 war.
It wasn't the Soviet "Union" until 1922.
Retard.
The EU and US threatening Russia not to get involved in Syria is a farce. Russia, Syria and Iran are signatories to a mutual defense treaty, and Russia is honoring its treaty commitment. IMVHO, this is all about the US attempting to deprive Russia of its warm water port in Tartus, just like the US tried to do with Sevastapol in the Crimea.
The guys at AIPAC (or was it PNAC? )made it clear decades ago what their plans are. We know for sure that when Syria fall then Iran is next. Also If my memory serves me well, there was a map showing exactly how they wanted to reform the middle east.
I keep this handy.
http://www.oilempire.us/new-map.html
In June 2006, Armed Forces Journal published this map from Ralph Peters, a prominent pro-war strategist. It shows the method to the madness -- creating ethnic tension and civil war in order to redraw the boundaries. Most of the existing borders were imposed by Britain and France after World War I - and conveniently (for the US and Europe) divide most of the Arabs from most of the oil. Note that their new "Arab Shia State" would contain much of the oil, separating governments in Riyadh, Baghdad and Tehran from what is currently the main source of their national wealth.
Blood borders
How a better Middle East would look
By Ralph Peters
Armed Forces Journal - June 2006
6 brand spanking new countries on that map! I'm sure NATO will make sure 'moderates' are elected in each one, provided they are made safe for democracy first.
Saudi Homelands Independent Territories?
Saudi Homelands Independent Territories?
So the supposed ISIS instigated Syrian refugee migration was planned. Make the issue of migration so un palatable to the Europeans that they will have to join the USA and take over Syria to root out ISIS. No doubt Germany announcing they will take 500,000 a year is sure a scare tactic.
The refugee crisis is so bad that I wonder if the West isn't secretly in approval of Russia's involvement. The USG could never bring itself to admit that trying to oust Assad was a mistake and try to reverse it by supporting him. But, they could be tacitly supporting the Russian move while openly condemning it.
Could be, the picture of that poor kid has changed a lot of hearts and minds out there
Why don't we start with an easy question.
Which countries have been given permission by Syria to either enter the country or in some way assist with this so-called ISIS terrorist problem ?
Anyone heard anything about the Federal Debt Limit? Is main stream media allowed to write about it anymore?
Threats from Germany and France? LOL
Putin should paratroop those nice ‘immigrants’ directly into Germany and France.
http://www.rt.com/news/314852-assange-wikileaks-us-syria/
Yup. Project for the New American Century, developed in the 1990s and still followed at least partially today. Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Jeb Bush were among the signatories to the Statement of Principles. The Wikipedia article concentrates on regime change in Iraq, but we have also been working on astro-turf rebellion in Syria for years.
Every time the West drops a bomb on a sovereign country there should be a million refugees asking for refuge in Germany, UK, France, Denmark etc.
Seems fair to me.
That would only seem fair if a million Krauts, KUeers, Frogs and Danes were shipped over to the country they bombed.