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Russia Sends More Tank Landing Ships, Military Aircraft To Syria
On Wednesday, Jean-Claude Juncker unveiled Europe’s preliminary “plan” to try and cope with the massive influx of asylum seekers fleeing the violence in war-torn Syria. Brussels’ approach to the crisis will reportedly involve a list of so-called “safe countries of origin.” As WSJ reported earlier today, migrants from those countries who are denied asylum will be subject to fast-track repatriation.” Here’s what we said about the proposed “safe” countries list:
Because there are "safe" countries of origin that must mean there’s a list of "unsafe" countries of origin as well, and we can only assume that list includes Syria, which Europe will make safer by bombing it.
That was a reference to reports out earlier this week that suggested French President Francois Hollande's response to Europe’s biggest refugee crisis since World War II would involve bombing the very place from which the refugees are fleeing. Here’s what Bloomberg (and Hollande himself) said on Monday:
Hollande is seeking a response to Europe’s biggest refugee crisis since World War II in tune with public opinion that remains largely hostile to a massive increase in immigration.
“I’ve asked the minister of defense to begin reconnaissance flights over Syria from tomorrow that would allow for strikes against the Islamic State,” Hollande said at a press conference in Paris on Monday. Hollande, who ruled out sending troops, said Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad is an impediment to peace in the country.
In many ways, this looks like a replay of the infamous YouTube chemical weapons videos which were supposed to serve as the original pretext for Western strikes on the Assad regime. That is, the US and its allies are determined to find the right mix of propaganda to justify a ground incursion and this time around, that mix will apparently include heart-wrenching pictures of migrants. As we said on Tuesday, the real tragedy here is that now, the pitiable plight of Syria's beleaguered masses will be used as an excuse to cause them still more pain and suffering.
Well sure enough, on Wednesday, we got still more evidence that Western Europe is set to join the US and Turkey (and soon Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Qatar) in conducting bombing raids in Syria. Here’s WSJ:
Faced with a burgeoning refugee crisis in Europe sparked by global extremism, U.S. and European officials said Tuesday there is a growing consensus that the multinational military campaign against Islamic State must focus more on targeting the group’s nerve centers in Syria.
With thousands of people flowing into Europe every day, France and England are both poised to set aside long-standing reservations and join Washington in carrying out airstrikes against Islamic State in Syria.
Western nations and U.S. allies also are responding to rising concerns about extremists in Syria planning attacks on European targets, such as a thwarted attempt last month by a lone gunman to kill passengers on a Paris-bound train.
That attack was a key factor for France in deciding to launch reconnaissance missions over Syria. French President François Hollande said Monday that his military is poised to carry out airstrikes in Syria.
On Tuesday, government officials in London said the British military also is prepared to continue targeting Islamic State extremists in Syria suspected of plotting attacks in England. The pledge came after the U.K. announced its first targeted airstrikes in Syria, which killed two British extremists.
Prime Minister David Cameron has renewed his push to convince a reluctant Parliament to clear the way for England to carry out broader airstrikes against Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, which has established its de facto capital in the city of Raqqa, Syria.
How France and the UK plan to explain, if pressed, the logic behind the idea that dropping more bombs on Syria should leave Syrians more predisposed to reminaing in the country as opposed to fleeing to Europe is anyone's guess, but even WSJ is starting to pick up on the fact that the timing here looks rather convenient, as the UK and France are now set to throw their respective air forces into the mix just as Russia moves to provide Assad with badly needed reinforcements at Latakia. Here's WSJ again:
As Europe deepens its involvement, Russia appears to be increasing its military role in Syria. U.S. military officials said Tuesday that Russia has sent in new planes, personnel and equipment in what appears to be an effort to set up a new air hub on the Syrian coast.
American officials are concerned the Russian buildup is an attempt by Moscow to provide more air support for embattled Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, but Moscow’s intentions aren’t yet clear. The moves by Moscow could increase the risk that members of the U.S.-led coalition could face off against Russian jets in the skies above Syria.
Speaking of Russia and their expanded presence, it now looks as though the Kremlin may soon abandon all pretense that its soldiers are not in Syria to fight - although obviously, no one on either side is yet prepared to drop the ISIS charade that has served, from the beginning, as the smokescreen politicians use to keep the public hyptnotized and blissfully unaware of their respective governments' real geopolitical agendas. Here's Bloomberg:
Russia said it’s ready to look at measures to fight Islamist insurgents in Syria if the conflict worsens, rejecting U.S. criticism of its deepening military involvement in the Middle Eastern country.
“Russia has never made a secret out of its military cooperation with Syria,” Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova Zakharova said in Moscow. “Russian specialists are helping Syrians to use Russian equipment. It’s difficult to understand the anti-Russian hysteria in this regard.”
And then from Reuters:
Russia has sent two tank landing ships and additional aircraft to Syria in the past day or so and has deployed a small number of forces there, U.S. officials said on Wednesday, in the latest signs of a military buildup that has put Washington on edge.
The two U.S. officials, who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity, said the intent of Russia's military moves in Syria remained unclear.
U.S. officials have not ruled out the possibility that Moscow may be laying the groundwork for an air combat role in Syria's conflict to bolster Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
And still more:
Russian military experts have expanded their presence in Syria over the last year, a Syrian military official said on Wednesday, pointing to a deepening of ties which Washington fears may be a buildup to support President Bashar al-Assad.
"Russian experts are always present but in the last year they have been present to a greater degree," the Syrian official said. "All aspects of the relationship are currently being developed, including the military one," he said.
Finally, Germany has now "warned" Moscow to tread lightly in its support of Assad:
Germany's foreign minister warned Russia on Wednesday against increased military intervention in Syria, saying the Iran nuclear deal and new U.N. initiatives offered a starting point for a political solution to the Syrian conflict.
Has you can see from the above, ISIS - the reason everyone involved cites when asked to explain their interest in intervening militarily in Syria - tends to get lost in the shuffle. That's not a coincidence. Rather, it simply reflects the fact that, as we noted over the weekend, neither side cares too much about what does or doesn’t happen to Islamic State unless the group’s fate somehow matters in determining whether a post-civil war Syria is still governed by Assad. In short, ISIS has played its role. The Assad regime is destabilized and Damascus is up for grabs. From here on out, it’s all about whether a coalition comprised of the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Qatar ends up in a direct military conflict with Russia and the Assad regime.
If you need a bit of anecdotal evidence to support that assessment, just ask people on the ground, many of whom can't seem to understand, what with all the fanfare about stepped up airstrikes and a more determined coalition, why no one seems to be fighting ISIS. Once more, from WSJ:
Islamic State fighters intensified their advance in recent days on a town in northern Syria close to a vital supply route for Syrian rebels near the border with Turkey, according to opposition rebels and local residents.
A number of rebel factions are struggling to stave off the militants, who have been gradually encircling the town of Marea about 15 miles south of the Turkish border. Marea is a key town along a 60-mile stretch of the border that Turkey and the U.S. want to clear of Islamic State fighters and the group’s offensive appears aimed at thwarting those efforts.
On Friday, Islamic State briefly entered the town, only to be beaten back by rebels, Marea residents and rebels said. But the rebels have lost three villages.
Though the U.S. and Turkey have said they want to oust Islamic State from this area, rebels in the Marea area say they are battling the militants on their own and complain they have not received much support from either country.
“We are fighting ISIS by ourselves,” said Abu Firas, referring to Islamic State by one of its acronyms. near Marea in the last month.
Marea is near the so-called "ISIS-free" zone that the US and Turkey sought to establish last month after Erdogan effectively traded Washington access to Incirlik (which gives the US army a forward operating base for what will eventually be a ground incursion in Syria) for NATO’s acquiescence to the extermination of the Kurdish opposition in Turkey. Of course ISIS might have already been routed from the area were it not for the fact that Washington and Ankara have literally forbidden the Kurdish YPG from continuing their highly successful offensive along the Turkish border due to Turkey's disdain for anything and everything Kurd-related. Given that, one would think that the very least Turkey would do, if it were genuinely concerned about ISIS that is, is make a concerted effort to stop towns like Marea from being captured but instead, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's army is off chasing the PKK in the mountains of Northern Iraq.
If you think this is a "friggin' mess" (to quote the Pentagon) now, just wait until the UK, France, and Germany get involved in the face of an increasingly obstinate Russia.
This folks, is the worst circle of foreign policy hell, and it's brought to you exclusively by governments' never-ending struggle to gain leverage over one another by controlling the distribution of the world's energy supply.
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Holland should start making preparations for bombing runs on ISIS in France...
DOn't forget the South and West Sides of Chicago, most of Detroit and all of DC. Thank You.
In Marseille there are certain suburbs where the police cannot go . In some other westeren countries its the same story . I like when the political correct idiots talk about integration with migrants that do not respect the tradition of the county that feeds them , rape their women and treat their own like dogs . Do we westernners have to integrate with those people ? It is the migrants that have to adapt themselves to the customs of the western country not viceversa . Failing to do so shoudl result in expulsion .
In a year or two, Hollande will bending over to Khalifa and asking to be screwed gently if it goes the way it is going today.
Just in case if it is not clear: All refugees are comming from the recently "liberated" areas, not from those that are under Assad's control.
The US is not going to back out of Syria, so either Russia starts taking out US assets or the US starts taking out Russan assets.
Chess is fine but sooner or later pieces must be off the board.
Who has the stomach for a (real war) - or even a taste of it; The U.S. or Russia...? One need not dig too deep to find the answer/s.
The US is a rat. The US will not back out of Syria. The US will run scared out of Syria once they realize that Russia and China are actually out to draw the US in a direct confrontation. But I wouldn't worry too much about the US. It is the EU that should be terrified over this. They will pay dearly for Ukraine once Russia comes out openly against the West.
If Russia can't sell its gas to Europe they go broke.
Another ZH fantasist.
There a certain countries that can be self sustaining and do no require international trade.
Russia is one of these...So is the US, although American public is very spoiled and used to the easy life.
The US will be forced into a humiliating climbdown because they are broke. The US can't risk a run in with Russia because this conflict won't be limited to just Syria and Ukraine. Russia will take out high value US naval targets (flat tops) all over the globe. The US would be bankrupt within hours Russia,China have fucked the dollar over the last few weeks, so gone are the days of war on the credit card, that's what happens when you pick a fight with someone that can fight back.
Wishful thinking. If China and Russia are so rich why are their currencies fallig relative to the dollar?
I'm not entirely willing to embrace ZH's stance on Russian involvement in Syria. Need more than Debka and Ynet. But if they are going in, now would be the time to refresh yourself with the pecuarlity of the Russian national character. they don't pussy foot or prevaricate.
What did Bismarck (IIRC) say regarding the Russians? They take to the saddle slowly but when they do they ride like the wind.
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/01/peculiarities-of-russian-national....
"The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia."
Sept 2013 - just 2 years ago. Obola wants to send in Tomahawk cruise missiles into Syria to punish them for "chemical weapons" which was a total lie.
Putin and Russia parked 5 to 6 Russian ships between 4 US Navy missile frigates or light cruisers. The sea was also filled with subs from a few countries. China sent a cruiser.
The Joint Chiefs at the Pentagram dispatched Gen McCrystal the head of Joint Criminals. He rushed to The White Hut on a Saturday morning and most likely told Obola to forget it.
Some web sites said two missiles were fired and shot down. Some said the Israelis launched them from a sub near Cyprus and the US Navy shot them down. Others said the US Navy launched them and the Russians shot them down.
So why the Pentagram change of heart?
1. There is a back channel between the US military and Russian military and Russians said do not do this.
2. The Pentagram and their evil MIC contractor buddies were worried US missiles and ships would be destroyed and it might cause suckers buying US military hardware to cancel orders because Tomahawks are easily shot down by the Russians. Plus Russian and Syrian Sunburns could make it a bad day for the US Navy. As bad as the poor kids on the USS Reagan who got the full dose off Fukishima. Those suckers will be showing up at the VA in the near future. Good luck.
Sept 2013 came very close to WW3 but the USA blinked. Russia did not. I will always admire Putin and the Russians for stopping the murder of innocent Syrians during that crisis. I only wish China and Russia had stopped the NATO-Gulf States genocide in Libya.
Seems like if we were going to blunder our way into a real war, where we are now would be one of the stages we pass through.
You must be a historian. I dread to think what historians will say about us a century from now.
Optimistic type arent you
So, U.S. jets would duel Russian jets attacking ISIS. What a mess inventing ISIS has been.
There's must be "all 'bout weed" book request from US side for sure.
Yup, they will be shouting at each other 'go away, I was here first'
No, US jets might drift too far west, across into Assad's no fly zone, and there mistake Syrian troop positions for ISIS.
You'd think Germany and he other EU states have enough invasion-crisis lighting up in their own backyards to be able to issue threats to anyone right now.
You'd think.
Addendum:
What a dilemma for the US. It won't tolerate anyone - especially Russia - standing up to the Empire. And seemingly Russia won't be intimidated by New York bankers and the MIC.
I'd fear serious trouble ahead, even war, but I am old enough to remember how America left Saigon in 1975.
I wonder when Chna will stand up to the US as Russia is...
And it's 1,2,3, what're we fightin' for..
A little Autobahn music...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vByRXJjpWuE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N2-THngB_k
Bird of Prey by Fatboy Slim also good Autobahn music
The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming! Zero Hedge certainly has a hard-on for the story that the Russians are coming to Syria, all based on one unsourced story repeated by the Zionist web page Ynet. Photos of Russian fighter jets against a clear sky reported to be "authentic" photographs of Russian fighter jets against a clear Syrian sky. Casual street talk about hearing Russian being spoken from inside Russian-made tanks. Greece and Bulgaria closing their airspace to Russian aircraft carrying supplies to Syria.
Greece and Bulgaria closing their airspace to Russian aircraft carrying supplies to Syria? Bulgaria is west of Russia! Why would Russia ever need to cross Bulgarian airspace to get to Syria? In fact, Russian aircraft would have to make a serious detour west to get to Syria via Bulgarian airspace. In fact, Turkey hasn't closed its airspace to Russia and Russian aircraft, one supposes, could overfly Turkey to get to Syria, what we call a straight-line flight rather than a great, circuitous flight over Bulgaria. In fact, in real life Russian flights skirt eastern Turkey to get to Syria.
Other countries close their airspace to Russian aircraft carrying supplies to Syria! Colombia, Japan, Canada and Zimbabwe announced that they, too, were closing their airspace to Russian aircraft carrying supplies to Syria. Take that, you dirty Ruskies!
What is this crap about Russia in Syria, Tyler? You've picked a frail, homeless story and are beating the gong with it. The story brays like a jackass. It stinks like propaganda written by the hard of thinking. It has sores on it. Why not stick to news rather than fairy tales. Tell me a story, Tyler. I guess I'll have to go back to CNBC if I want some hard news, huh?
Macon, agreed there's loads of disinfo out there. Hard to tell what is real. You seen this?
Russian submarine with 20 ICBMs and 200 nuclear warheads is sailing to Syria
http://www.debka.com/article/24873/Russian-submarine-with-20-ICBMs-and-2...
Meanwhile, Russians aside, the footage below IS real. What a violent hellhole. If that ever comes to the states a brick of 22LR and month supply of freeze dry isn't going to do much good.
Machine Guns and Barrel Bombs: The Battle for Syria's South (Part 1) VICE NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHJPXWglnpU
Thanks for your reply. My point wasn't that there's a lot of misinformation out there. My point was that there is a lot of disinformation here on Zero Hedge. My question, which Zero Hedge's cult disciples and fanboys don't address in their "comments" is why. Why is Zero Hedge on this continuing disinformation project about Russians in Syria? Qui bono?
I won't question why my comment received so many negative responses. It's in the nature of true believers to defend the faith, in Zero Hedge's case a children's crusade. But though the acolytes don't question the received wisdom, my question is still an important one and still stands.
The answer to your question "why?" is contained in the last sentence of the original post: Energy Supplies. Zero Hedge believes that the US interest in Syria and the Russian desire to defend it are both fundamentally about building the proposed Qatari pipeline in order to separate Russia from its European gas markets. For the record, I also happen to disagree with this view, but I don't think Zero Hedge is engaged in any deliberate misinformation. They just have the wrong read on this one.
Everybody makes mistakes sometimes.
go away then...
Why aren't you over there documenting all this and reporting?
What keeps NOT being reported is Russia has Naval base in Syria for YEARS already and it has agreement to support Syria.
Same thing that countries who house USA bases has.
But it was reported here, years ago. Russia had Marines in Syria shortly after the festivities began.
ZH is not the mainstream media, which get's its talking points from the State Department. You are both right.
Breaking,
Iran gives green light to Russia for airspace as per Press TV.
The German for refugee is " Fluchtlinge" (one who flees).I have seen where there is an organized media effort to describe these people as migrants.
Refugees are given rights under the UN charter.They can't be sent back if there is a "well founded fear of persecution".This is difficult to prove or disprove.
Aside from the US State Dept.,does anyone with a brain think that life is better in all these "liberated" countries now,as compared to twenty years ago?
Old axiom from NASA,"If you don't understand its' function,DON'T F*CK WITH IT!!".
Having lived and worked in Libya in 2002-2003 I assure you its a living hellhole now.
It was a great place. until the CIA stirred up the Ben-Ghazis who were always considered ''snakes in the grass' by the rest of Libyans. A handful of rebel rats and when Ghaddaffi was going to go after them , the USA media portrayed it as ''Killing his own people'' Same thing as what has happened in Syria.
IN 1999, I was flying freight into Baghdad. It was a clean relatively modern country. Saddam was secular and girls and women wore normal western clothing. You could dance in a disco, drink a cold beer. Their schools and university was topnotch for Middle East. Women and Chrisitans were in govt.
Saddam HATED Islamists and dealt with them accordingly. Whether right or wrong, the USA used that to overthrow him.
Notice that USA attacks or supports Islamists only when its in their interests. The people who did the gassing in Syria was NOT Assad's troops but the USA funded rebels (terrorists). McCains' buddies.
Anyone hear Mccain today decrying the lack of action by the U.S. on the "refugee" problem. Beat that war drum you wet starting sailor killing piece of shit.
McCains photo meeting with ISIS leaders should be plastered on all media.
I got a similar assessment from a buddy of mine. He remarked "the most western of the middle east countries". Well, when does the US ever walk in without a bar fight?
The Russians are coming (side 2): Hedge hogs, strap this on and see how it fits.
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/russian-syria-buildup-propaganda-m...
This was RT's Crosstalk show today.
I recorded off my SAT and uploaded to YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBWupeV5_Fg Part one 15 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaCzTJ7ETd0 Part two 15 minutes
Worth a watch
If Putin had helped Ghaddafi's Libya in the same way he is now supporting Assad, The Syrian insurgency with its SEVEN MILLION displaced people may never have happened.
Except that Libya is not on Russia's doorstep and libya had no agreement with Russia
If the USA had kept supporting Saddam ,, 4000 Americans would alive today.
and no doubt the whole region would have been better off except the crybabies of Israel of course.
Closer to 10,000 American soldiers, sailors and marines died as a result of the Iraqi wars. 4,000 is the sanitized MSM-spew number they spoon-fed to Americans. The other 6,000 are claimed to have oficially died outside of theater or from non-combat-related injuries or whatever bureaucratic clownfuckery they use to hide the actual American casualties.
The other 6,000 were all deployed specifically in support of the Iraqi war, and all came home in an aluminum box just as dead as the official 4,000 number. Plenty of people in the VA system and the DoD can confirm this - they would just lose their jobs.
Don't forget about all the Western mercenaries who were simply buried out in the desert and did not come home at all.
Good, I hope a camel shits on their graves.
more than 4000..
have to dig deep about what happened Fallujah
If countries didn't follow their laws of progressive growth and domination, well, there would be no state.
why did the whole world forsake Ghaddafi???
When I was working in Libya we used to go to a real nice shopping center that had a food court. One day I asked our waiter where he was from, He said, Iraq, and started talking glowingly about George W. Bush and Ghaddaffi and how the Libyan govt had taken him and saved his life.
This was in 2003
I didn't know what to say to him except ''Glad you are safe''.
FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME ..
NO THEY HAVEN'T!
http://journal-neo.org/2015/09/07/syria-expressed-discontent-with-russia...
The truth is, they are actually pulling back, and reducing on previous commitments ..
Yellow cake anyone? Where have we heard of this before. Collin Powell is practically an unknown right now. Why is that?
Get you shit together -- Tylers! You are becoming worse than Alex Jones, Drudge, Steve Quayle, et al ..
Author Gordon Duff. hahah
Just as big a bullshit artist as Alex Jones, Steve Quayle, etc.
correct
very correct.
Duff seems to be there to divide the truthers on 9/11 - my best guess.
I suggest you watch the Crosstalk show today I posted a couple of comments down the page.
Lots more knowledgeable than Gordon Duff.
Stupid Euro politicians
Russia is helping indirectly Europe from migration invasion
Zionism And ISIS: Opposing Forces Or Two Sides Of The Same Coin?
http://www.mintpressnews.com/zionism-and-isis-opposing-forces-or-two-sid...
The Yinon Plan, “Greater Israel”, Syria, Iraq, and ISIS: the Connection
http://leaksource.info/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-ir...
“Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East
The Infamous "Oded Yinon Plan".
http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-mid...
http://smoloko.com/?p=6195
Which country and ethnoreligious group has wildly disproportionate power in the US, UK, and France?
If you think that the Iranians are all religious whackjobs, and the Israelis are not - consider that perhaps you have been brainwashed. "Consider" means try to actually maintain an open mind.
Benjamin Netanyahu Ordered to Hasten Jewish Messiah's ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFr4C2BPLeM
Future Israel
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
Netanyahu Joins a History of Jews Mislead by Messianic Beliefs
http://sttpml.org/netanyahu-joins-a-history-of-jews-mislead-by-messianic...
THE GREATEST HOAX - The Scoffield Bible
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/scofield.htm
Many clutch their Bibles, or at least the old testament and revelation, and they think they know how things are going to turn out.
They could not be more wrong.
The Old Testament is little more than a criminal code dressed in pseudohistory and myth presented as fact. It is mostly false, as many who study ancient Egypt and the Levant will tell you
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/chosen-people.html
https://ashraf62.wordpress.com/ancient-egypt-knew-no-pharaohs/
Leaving all this aside - if you have a moment, go read the New York times' coverage, and most of the comments where available.
We are living in a real life information Matrix - and it should be obvious who controls the MSM.
What will it take for you to finally REVOLT>?
Bingo but revolting won't help. USE their Ziomedia like Facebook and Twitter to educate others. Send links to places like Bnai Brith and tell them we are onto you and telling others.
That gets them all pissed off.
Yesterday I posted some links like yours on NBC Facebook page.
The comments back to me were unbelievable mostly from Christians ,, ''Israel is blessed by god. etc etc.
Very sickening comments,
How many Americans are aware of the Chesed Golem incident? Wouldn't an FBI interview with Andras Szekely, an IDF veteran, who in October 2000 overheard while working in a New Jersey cemetary three men speaking in Hebrew of a plot using planes to take down the World Trade Center be of interest? Isn't is shocking that not even a single mainstream journalist followed up on this? (sarc)
http://911blogger.com/news/2007-04-04/follow-%E2%80%9Cprior-knowledge-911-attacks-overheard-hebrew%E2%80%9D-story-fbi-looks-documents-where-they-cannot-be-found
You can't tell the players without a scorecard.
This map is from the script.
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/schoenman/map.htm
did you look at the links I provided? The map is covered.
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
is great - tougher for the hasbarats to claim it is "anti-Semitic" conspiracy theory when it comes from Orthodox Jews no longer shy about telling us what they really think
Also check out "When Israel is Mighty" on youtube.
Great guy, that guy.
did you look at the links I provided?
I checked a couple just to be sure the titles (like some headlines) didn't say the opposite of what the link said.
If this reference is in your links, I appologize.
In my opinion, it is a required reading (like Mein Kampf, Protocols of the Elders of Zion, Henry Ford's Dearborn Independent). I read "The Hidden History of Zionism" about 20 years ago and it's made current events easier to digest ever since.
Unfortunately, in those 20 years I've never been able to persuade anyone to read them ... even my sons.
I read 'Mein Kampf'' about 20 years ago for curiousity.
The chapter characterizing Jews was so spot on , you could swear it was written yesterday.
It could also be applied to Germans, Brits, Russians and the Jews of the Orient - The Chinese.
not even close
Also check out "When Israel is Mighty" on youtube.
Great guy, that guy.
I watched the 12 minute video and it was largely a waste of time. I'm an atheist and these "my god is better than your god" things are totally silly to me.
Further, I only reach back in history to see how it is being distorted in the present ... or to see how it accurately describes the plan that has become the present (which is the case of the books I cite).
The Old Testament is mostly plagiarism from my people, the Sumerians. Noah and his Ark? Eff that. Pshaw. It was Ziasudra in his submarine. Or Utnapishtim in his tessaract. People need to read my favorite Jew, Zecharia Sitchin
You can make their heads explode with some very succint questions. Like if Cain was kicked out of the garden and Adam and Eve were the first humans, who did Cain marry?
there are many theories..
many clues
always look the most hated and suppressed for truth
All you have to do is play the ''telephone game'' and you will understand about the Buybull.
All you have to do is play the ''telephone game'' and you will understand about the Buybull.
lots of stealing from Egypt, too - very possibly including the 10 commandants
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_10cl.htm
also see, generally:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/chosen-people.html
lots of stealing from Egypt, too - very possibly including the 10 commandants
I point out that 5 of them have to do with respect for authority. And the other 5 are far from an exhaustive list of things you shouldn't do.
Heck, if they want to put a cheat sheet up in the court room, put up the golden rule. I don't know it to be religious at all. If fact, it can't be ... it's common sense.
The resurrected god is a very old Egyptian story.
The Judeo Christian narrative of the Buybull is accepted in Western culture.
Tell any Buybull thumper that there were humans living in Asia before the Buybull timeline narrative. Really want to get them going. Tell them the universe is INFINITE and has no beginning and no end. More or less proven now everyday.
The simple minded like the Genisis and Adam and Eve story.
Actually Buddhism explains what ''god''' is but don't try explaining to a Buybull thumper. UNLESS he has woken up to his brain and has started thinking.
Tell them the universe is INFINITE and has no beginning and no end. More or less proven now everyday.
I like their defense of god by saying "everything has to come from something". I ask them who created god. Astonishingly it doesn't phase them.
Buddhism postulates that the universe is cause and effect. more succintly 'simultaneous cause and effect'' it was in the 80,000 volumes of the Lotus Sutra and only Buddhist priests knew about it for centuries.
Then in 1253, NIchiren Daishonin (Japan) elucidated this in a mantra ''Nam-Myo-Ho-Renge-Kyo
It works for anyone who tries it, no need to BELIEVE it.
Its not secret but well protected for reasons I won't go into here.
you can read more about it here http://www.sgi-usa.org
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3fRLx4pHw
''Nam-Myo-Ho-Renge-Kyo
I tried it. It didn't work. What did work? The banishing ritual in "Magick in Theory and Practice".
Buddhism is an A-theistic philosophy.
Definition of atheism not believing in a Supreme BEING.
Buddhism deals with the Supreme LAW.
to make it a bit more simple for westerner.. ''God'' is inside of everyone''
Everyone is a mini universe and has the power to overcome anything
I have seen many people cure themselves of terminal cancer etc etc
but its kept hush hush
Again, for reasons I won't get into here.
LAW is just BEING depersonalized. It makes no difference. It is just the other side of the dualistic coin. A-theistic philosophy is nothing but theism in disguise. Or vice versa. If you don't understand both you understand neither. That "God is inside of everyone" is what Jesus himself said (Luke 17:21).
Ask any Jew or Israeli why Soka Gakkai International is banned in Israel.
You won't get an answer.
http://www.sgi-usa.org
"I ask them who created god. Astonishingly it doesn't phase them."... the same way that newton and scientists around the world agree that energy can neither be created nor destroyed.
energy can neither be created nor destroyed.
It works pretty well for rngineering. Which is the real test.
ENeumman - Believe what you wish of metaphysics. However, you are incorect the universe is infinite. The universe is like fireworks going off. It will cool and becomes one giant bunch of ash. Stop speaking out of your ass on this subject.
Metaphysics was the base foundation of modern science. I view it as I'll take what is now proven sound and discard the rest. No bible writer was hung up on evolution.
I believe Sitchin.
I think the gods left Marduk behind, Rothschilds are his agents.
I'm sure a non-shellfish eater/dual citizen was the one who downvoted me
Alas, Babylon....
I$I$; the last gasp of Saudi Mercan petro$crip.
Onward to the collap$€
This remains the single best article on the origins and motivations of the so-called "neocons" I have read:
“The machiavelian threefold game of the neoconservatives”
by Laurent Guyénot
To realize their fantasies of world domination, the neocons resorted to a triple discourse, as Laurent Guyénot shows in this study, i.e. a cynical political philosophy developed by their mentor Leo Strauss for domestic consumption; a cold analysis of Israeli strategic interests for the benefit of the leaders in Tel Aviv, and a fear-mongering warning against imaginary dangers besetting U.S. public opinion.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
Here's the deal - and it is obvious, but we are all brainwashed to not discuss Jewish power:
The neocons are ethnocentric Israel firster Zionist Jews, and their shabbos goyim, who wish to use american blood and treasure to destroy Israel's neighbors to allow Israel to dominate the region, and eventually, to expand.
The United States is doomed if it can not round up these people and deport them.
And there are plenty of other militarists, but the Jewish/Zionist lobby is by far the most dangerous and embedded
http://www.wired.com/2012/04/shady-companies-nsa/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-accuses-israel-of-al...
so controlled is the mass media that people are more afraid of non-existent Iranian nukes than they are afraid of being attacked by Israel as part of a false flag to blame Iran.
The Jewish Center bombing in Argentina was, quite likely, done by Israel itself.
ditto Charlie Hebdo.
Ditto, with substantial Pentagon help, 9/11
http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/
https://mastersofdeception.wordpress.com/
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it
Probably the BIGGEST LIE ,that most people believe is
''Israel is just defending herself''.
The story has always been from them, that they have to attack (and occupy) other countries because these countries are threatening them. Where have we heard that before? Japan 1941, Germany 1939.
As Lincoln said in a letter opposing the reasons for the US war with Mexico:
"Herndon had argued that in case of an invasion, the President had full constitutional authority to invade the territory of an enemy and the necessity for such action rested solely with the President.46 Lincoln denied that the territory in this case was U.S. property. Therefore no invasion had occurred. Lincoln issued this warning:
That soil was not ours; and Congress did not annex or attempt to annex it. But to return to your position: Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so, whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose — and you allow him to make war at pleasure. Study to see if you can fix any limit to his power in this respect. . . .
The provision of the Constitution giving the war-making power to Congress was dictated, as I understand it, by the following reasons. Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object. This, our convention understood to be the most oppressive of all Kingly oppressions; and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us. But your view destroys the whole matter, and places our President where Kings have always stood.47
http://www.loc.gov/law/help/usconlaw/pdf/Mexican.war.pdf
''The Family'' are a group of Christian Zionists.
Steve Quayle types who always revert to Buybull crap.
Same with that charlatan. Lindsey Willams. (wait for it). LOL
''The Family'' are a group of Christian Zionists.
Steve Quayle types who always revert to Buybull crap.
Same with that charlatan. Lindsey Willams. (wait for it). LOL
Guess who made the map of the ME? It wasn't the Jews.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-07/bed-despotic-house-saud#comment...
So was The Saker wrong on this one?
it appears so.
saker lets emotions get away and is not so thorough as he first appears...
I never look there anymore...
Believe it or not, I quit reading b/c I hate the look of his new web site
Well the BIGGEST LIE ever, is that we live on a "ball" Earth.?
Its not quite round. ;-)
My dinner plate is round enough.
Russia backing Assad and fighting against IS, the proxy armies created by the CIA and Mossad, who should be surprised by this? The US government? Who are the real terrorists? Is a series of strategic failures by the US government part of a greater plan or just plain stupidity? Hmmmm, let's take a guess and suggest that the US government wanted, predicted and understood that its actions would eventually create chaos in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine with the ultimate goal destabilizing Europe with hundreds of thousands of refugees. This begs the question for America, what's the end game?
Creating chaos is the agenda. USA which is controlled by Zionists and Israel. Yes, USA is totally controlled by Israel, like it or not.
Greater Israel is the agenda and extrapolating furthur. Israel and Zionism want world domination vis and vis the banksters.
Don't people find it a bit odd that ALL potential candidates go to visit Israel?
They know who make or breaks candidates and who owns the media.
Israel ALWAYS make sure the 2 candidates left standing are Pro Israel so its a win/win for them.
Uh. Its the Brits. Israel is their cover:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-07/bed-despotic-house-saud#comment...
as an american how does it feel to be what is essentially a german in nazi germany
usa will soon be ussa - both suck
BOLDER Deash
this is not your fathers socialism
Here is the difference -
Russia will drop bombs on ISIS.
The United States and EU drop threats, along with weapons and supplies
bingo u won
one:
I didn't know that a pilot of a jet could "face off" against a surface to air missile
two:
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What they need is a land with no people for a people with no land.
Relax, everybody - now that those eminent international States(wo)men Merkel and Hollande are getting involved, all the problems will be solved quickly, efficiently, and peacefully.
/sarc
Why is Pope meeting with the Putin?
He's either with him, or against him.
Reported on Drudge.
Cross pollination.
How come we never hear anything about Jordan?
because the nail that sticks up gets pounded down
Because he was a much better player than franchise owner.
This is theater of the absurd. US/NATO/GCC wage wars on Afghanistan, Iraq, LIbya, Syria and most recently Yemen, having destroyed entire societies and created millions of refugees fleeing violence and economic disasters. Obviously these people are migrating to wealthier Europe, which is physically connected to the ME. If you don’t want all these refugees, don’t bomb and destroy their countries in the first place! This is classic Blowback. Germany (a vassal state of the US) is now “warning” Russia against military intervention in Syria? What has Germany been doing in Ukraine? Does Germany realize that Russia has circa 5000 tactical nuclear weapons on its western border, that will completely incinerate Germany and the rest of the EU in minutes? Did Germany learn anything from WWI and WWII? If there is any question about the Russian resolve, go back and study the battle for Stalingrad. Bottom line, one should never over-estimate the intellectual capacity of politicians.
I would like my sincers excuses for we french to have such an incomptent leader as holande. Please, ignore all comments from that joke.
I would like my sincers excuses for we french to have such an incomptent leader as holande. Please, ignore all comments from that joke.
If Russia is truly supporting Assad, they should accept the refugees fleeing from this debacle.
Many times I have heard that Putin and Russia are Orthodox Christians from posters here.
If so, for humanitarian and Christian Orthodox reasons, they must absorb these refugees. How can they send in their military and support systems without accepting those who are fleeing?
The refugees may eventually return, if Russia can defeat the IS. But Putin has a responsibility to shelter those as he escalates the war.
Russia has already taken in 1.1. million refugees from the USA supported NeoNazi bombing of Donbass.
Syrians don't want to go to Russia. They want to go to the EU
Hey Apostate;
Don't you think that Israel should accept them as they have been supplying weapons and medical assistance to the radical terrorists in Syria for years?
Russia gives full citizenship rights, such as to own property, to Muslims. Israel bulldozes their homes. Israel refuses to recognize property rights of Muslims. Israel is the cancerous state in the ME. Scientifically advanced as the Nazis were to be sure, but cancerous all the same
If Russia is truly supporting Assad, they should accept the refugees fleeing from this debacle.
Unless maybe they see it as a way for the west to weaken itself. One group of western powers is wasting resources driving the war. The other western powers are wasting resources supporting the immigrants.
They wouldn't be above sacrificing Assad if they saw a net benefit to themselves.
When your enemy is inflicting self damage, the best strategy is not get in the way.
Tyler: "Because there are "safe" countries of origin that must mean there’s a list of "unsafe" countries of origin as well, and we can only assume that list includes Syria, which Europe will make safer by bombing..."
This really does sum up the madness that has taken over the minds of Western govs...