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Will China Invade Alaska, Canada? Will Russia?
Authored by Bernie Quigley, originally posted op-ed at The Observer,
The theory of 65-year cycles points to a critical moment in China's evolution
Five Chinese navy ships are currently operating in the Bering Sea off the coast of Alaska, the Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday, marking the first time the U.S. military has seen them in the area. Why the sudden interest?
Because the Chinese have been studying the cycles. From generational theorists William Strauss and Neil Howe, they have learned that political/cultural cycles last only 65 years, and then they collapse, cycles first observed by Taoist monks and Roman philosophers. And China is exactly 66 years advanced since the Chinese Communist Revolution of 1949. In terms of generational cycles, China is on the eve of destruction. (In terms of the Strauss/Howe theory, so are we.)
The Chinese have been studying Western theories and economic cycles like the Elliott Wave, which suggests that the life cycle of a dominant currency has its limitations, and the American dollar cycle has ended. They have been studying economist Harry Dent, investment gurus Jim Rogers, Marc Faber and libertarian Ron Paul, seen often here only in the shadows, and understand that America is at a full economic transition, potentially a catastrophic cultural turning.
They have been reading Nicholson Baker’s day-by-day account, Human Smoke: The beginnings of WWII, the End of Civilization. They understand fully without Western sentimentality or illusion what comes next at the end of the economic cycle: Total war.
And they know that they have every advantage, for so many reasons. The first might reach back to 1913, when the 17th Amendment was approved in America. It focused power in New York and Washington and nullified the natural rise and development of states and regions into indigenous republics or “laboratories of democracy,” the phrase used by Justice Louis Brandeis. But created in time a vast meandering horde wandering without fences, formed by Hollywood light and sound, answering to no one, or anyone. It was one of the early Tea Party initiatives to put the fences back, but it is now too late and not enough.
They understand the “lessons of Vietnam”: Here in the age of the individualized common man where every woman or man can be emperor, it is not just the rich who will not fight, not just the connected who will avoid service (Dick Cheney had five military deferments in the Vietnam era). Almost no one will fight and those who do will be despised.
And although nostalgico generations celebrating Franklin D. Roosevelt (like Bernie Sanders) still romantically view us as unified (largely European) minions formed by great Hollywood figures; Frank Capra, Howard Hawks, Gary Cooper movies like Sergeant York, we no longer are. We view ourselves today as “totalitarian lite” benevolent world conquerors and everybody wants to be like us (except the Chinese and Russians). Senator from Arkansas Tom Cotton today calls for “global military dominance.” But we have no temperament for war. Scholarly studies report that, just one percent of current residents of New Jersey have served in military since Vietnam.
Secretary of State John Kerry’s appeasement of the Ayatollahs in the Iran deal comes as no surprise. Not to China, which carefully plans its next steps in the now permanent relationship with the war-weary and wary West.
Jim Webb, warrior/scholar and former Senator from Virginia, who is running for president has been watching this a long time.
“From this point forward,” he wrote in the Wall Street Journal back in 2001, “no one should doubt that our over investment in the economy of a nondemocratic and ever more aggressive nation has seriously compromised our ability to conduct foreign policy in the world’s most dynamic region. And the fact that we have become vulnerable to a Chinese military modernized through the benefits of our own technology should give all of us pause.”

Chinese missiles are seen on trucks as they drive next to Tiananmen Square and the Great Hall of the People during a military parade on September 3, 2015 in Beijing, China. (Photo: Kevin Frayer/Getty Images)
Webb prefaced his article with a quote from Sun Tzu, in The Art of War: “Draw them in with the prospect of gain, take them by confusion. Use anger to throw them into disarray.”
It is safe to say today that we are now passed the “draw them in” phase and entering into the “take them by confusion” phase and that is what the Chinese ships are doing off the Alaskan coast. Soon ahead, the “use anger to throw them into disarray” phase.
Possibly we would come together in defense today if an outside invader approached the United States (Lower 48) either from China on one side, or Russia on the other. But would Americans in the Lower 48 defend Alaska? Canada? Or would we instead deal Canada away to avoid war below and “find peace”? As our long, intimate, historic relationship with Israel disintegrates almost overnight, General Secretary of the Communist Party Xi Jinping thinks he knows the answer.
Most Americans who have never seen Dougie Gilmour crawl off the ice with a broken leg in his last day on ice, have never been to Tim Hortons or canoed the mystic Canadian wilderness, think Canadians are silly, preoccupied only with hockey. Scott Walker, Governor of Wisconsin, who wants to be president, fully personifies this dangerous American narcissism: He wants to build a fence not only across the border with Mexico, but one across the border with Canada as well. But Canada, and Alaska, are absolutely vital to America’s defence, even to our very existence.
Time to read again, John McPhee’s Coming into the Country. Time to read again, Margaret Atwood’s Survival: A Thematic Guide to Canadian Literature. Time to read again, Sun Tzu’s The Art of War.
That President Obama is the first American president to cross into the Arctic Circle is astonishing. That tells the Chinese, and the Russians who planted the flag at the North Pole and declared it to be their own well back in 2007, virtually everything they need to know about our relationship with the Great White North.
That is where they must start in the next phase of civilization between China, Russia and North America: Using “anger to throw them into disarray.”
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A waste of print space.
Yeah, but THIS collapse is gonna go to ELEVEN!
Yep. And China and Russia will escape unscathed. Only America will be significantly damaged. Amirite?
It would appear Russia is invading Syria now...
Armageddon Approaches: Russian Troops Begin Combat Operations in SyriaChina and/or Russia invade Alaska? Ain't gonna happen. Way too hard.
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johngaltfla
Perhaps Russia will experience another "Afghanistan" (sort of a USA version of Vietnam Redux, or "Iraq v. 2").
As long as WE stay out of Syria, I don't really care...
The post below is correct: Barry doesn't invade unless there is free weed and golf.
This does however bring Saudi Arabia and Israel into a possible confrontation with Russia. There is no good outcome in that case.
I'm not signing up for an Arctic war, sport.
Let me lob something back at you.
What was the collateral for all those loans from China? Suppose it was Alaska and the Chinese were just evaluating the collateral prior to collection?
One quick point. This following fallacious assertion by the author needs clarification:
"Senator from Arkansas Tom Cotton today calls for “global military dominance.” But we have no temperament for war."
Incorrect. We have no temperament for "endless politicized" war with impossible rules of engagement. External military intervention should be fought using rapid overwhelming force to crush the enemy to dust and then bring our people home, period. Anything else is cruel and unusual punishment for both sides of a conflict. And the choice to do so must be able to show a clear and present danger to our country in the first place. Otherwise, just stay home.
Barry won't go into syria, no golf courses
http://www.golf.com/photos/scariest-golf-courses-world
It's only an invasion when you're not invited. Like Turkey, Jordan, the USA, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
and Israel
Moron. Russia is an ally of Syria. U.S. Is not.
They have calculated acceptable damage and it's far more than Merikan's willingness to accept damage; not even interruption of free Wi-Fi.
Barry and the Chinos were up there so that they could have a pow wow without those distracting golf courses and media types - nothing more.
This article, as well as the comments on this thread, clearly demonstrate that most of the American public are clueless as to the scope of defense and national security related activities taking place in western Alaska and the Aleutian Islands.
It is surprising the Chins have not visited before now.
And what is it ? Using useless gmds?
Oh no.
This region plays host to a variety of military bases (some shown on maps, some not), long range radar stations, ELINT posts, etc..
Russia's largest sub base, Kamchatka Rybachiy, is located on the Kamchatka Peninsula, as is one of their ICBM impact ranges.
These are just a few of the interesting things going on in the region that various arms of the USGOV like to keep tabs on.
Conversely, our assets make for great targets to be studied and monitored by our potential adversaries.
And around and around we go.
Clearly we have a delusional type that thinks we're giving away "national security secrets" if some Chinese ships steam nearby and that its a major source of concern.
Sounds like ex-military, armchair general speaking from his Barcalounger about the SERIOUSNESS of this "threat".
You're a weak minded, limp dick easily manipulable by the war drums of the MSM.
Oh please. We've all played Risk. Nobody cares about Kamchatka.
The Tylers removed my post of last night, apparently for some national security reason, I imagine.
In it I wrote that the Chinese need a way to feed 1.3 billion people so as to expand their gene pool. What better way to increase their food base than to acquire Canada (wheat), and the midwest of the US (for the most productive and largest farmland area in the entire world).
This won't happen over-night, the Chinese are patient people...and remember, it's nothing personal, but you have to go.
Just because somebody sees warships off their coast doesn't mean there will be an invasion or war.
What do people think when they see US ships? Peace, love and freindship. That's right, let's give the whole world a hug.
Funny thing about declining empires... until it is well and truly over they can still smash things pretty good.
America puts large flotillas of warships in the 80 mile wide sound between China and Taiwan, and they don't own land on either side.
If it were me, I'd put 5 noisy peices of shit over a boomer.
https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/20130423.aspx
Invade Alaska?
Why?
Putin can see Alaska from his front porch in the Kremlin.
Because history rhymes.
http://www.kuriositas.com/2012/11/the-forgotten-battle-japanese-invasion...
Resources.
Snow and seal blubber? Firewood? No really, they will have no problem telling the tree huggers to go fuck themselves while they empty the north slope and the anwr. Maybe even bring a pipeline across the straight?
Putin left a remnant fish for Obama ...
hehe.
They are not there for an invasion. They brought their ships to snatch away the beautiful Sarah Palin. If history repeats, thy may have to resort to some trickery.
"A waste of print space"
Amen!
Seemed like an interesting post from the title. But the body of the post is totally void of any insight.
It could have been made so much more interesting, because the title eludes the history of Alaska and Canada.
How about this angle? I once had an idea to write a novel about the Chinese trying to take over Canada. There is evidence that they explored the west coast of Canada in the early 1400's, way before any Europeans did. They could claim that "recent unearthed evidence" shows that they had claimed Canada at that time. Blah, blah, blah ... and then invade Canada.
Likewise Russia could claim that "Seward's Folly", the US purchase of Alaska from the Russians, was an illegal real estate transaction. Blah, blah, blah ... and then invade Alaska.
But all the "insight" that this post "revealed" was that four Chinese war ships were sailing off the Alaskan coast! Big deal!
dont ask this guy to write a thesis.
yeah, looks corny
As our long, intimate, historic relationship with Israel disintegrates almost overnight, General Secretary of the Communist Party Xi Jinping thinks he knows the answer.
Lololololzzzz
Israe has l never done ANYTHING for the United States. Won't help us even fight their proxy wars for them! Are these authors serious with this kind of naked bullshit?? Now America is crushing Syria for them, next it will be Iran, we have the biggest traders in the history of mankind running this country.
Now THAT would depend entirely upon whether or not Janet Yellen's employers decide concerning their own best interests
Neocon agitprop. That, or the guy is just a total dumba$$.
Neocons are getting desperate. "Won't someone go to war with us? Please!"
Have you noticed how Tyler is being the bogeyman for the NeoCons now?
Is his name really Tyler Durdenstein?
Which Tyler are you talking about?
There are more Tylers than princes in Saudi Arabia.... Last time I counted.
Probably Tyler Perry.
Hey Tyler, there's lots going on in the world now and many interesting things are being written. Why I bet there are even some good articles on those Chinese ships off the coast of Alaska, though, truth be told, it's a mighty long coastline if it includes the Aleutians.
Maybe you thought this was by Carroll Quigley?
..and Fuckbama goes off and eats raw fish with that fuck face Bear Grylls.....and the majority of the populace loves this asshole....America is fucked.
Yea but Obama takes selfies.
Finally a real leader we can relate to!
Well not we, but they.
Yeah you guys can keep Bear Gryllis, we have Led Stroud.
Define invade?
Vancouver, BC
Will John Candy lead the charge? God was this stupid
The answer is No. Is this guy Gartman's brother?
Draw me in with the title and then just garbage. Is it the Chinese or "Scott Walker" our greatest threat? Cry about the lack of indepenedence and then complain about someone who is indepent from Washington like Scott Wallker.
what a moron question
what a moron fullstop.
Is this chuck norris again? cowardly posing as someone else?
China and Russia are just poken around to see which of the three or 4 counties the us will break up into. And to which region they might align with
The Brits tried that in 1860. How did it work out for them?
I wonder if this guy is one of those propagandist screenwriter types that worked with the CIA to script the completely fictional movie Zero Dark 30, those guys sucked too.
Sounds a little far fetched,but who knows. The Mexicans have already invaded while we sit on our hands. Europe is appears powerless against the muslim invaders. These are interesting signals we are sending to our adversaries, signals that wreek of weakness, corruption and incompetence.
Anything is possible. Back in the day;
Bounty Laws
Sonora was the first state to enact a scalp bounty law; in 1835, offering 100 pesos for the scalps of braves (with a peso roughly equal to an American silver dollar). An American named James Johnson sparked the boom period in 1837 when he fired a concealed canon at close range on unarmed Apaches. The blast tore into Apache warriors as well as women and children, and Johnson and his troops swarmed into the mass of natives, killing and scalping. While this event occurred in Hidalgo County, New Mexico, the scalps were cashed in Sonora, and the entire incident proved how profitable scalp hunting could be. It also flamed native animosity towards both Mexicans and Anglos, encouraging more raids and greater violence (a cycle that continued throughout this era). Soon afterward, Chihuahua enacted a similar law offering a graded bounty: $100 for braves; $50 for squaws; $25 for children under fourteen (although the latter two were ostensibly for live captives). While the callous nature of this business might have limited the number of participants, the Panic of 1837 had left many pioneers and miners strapped for money, and scalp hunting offered a quick profit for men trying to reach California, and the bounty of one Indian was worth more than many Mexicans or Anglos could earn in a year. It also provided financial rewards for a conflict that had begun before a price had been set on Indian blood.
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/HNS/Scalpin/oldfolks.html
Read "Blood Meridian". It follows a group of scalp hunters through 1849 Sonora Desert. Probably the greatest book I have ever read. http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Meridian-Evening-Redness-West/dp/0679728759/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1441853113&sr=1-1&keywords=blood+meridian
Crazy talk
China has 250 nuclear weapons compared to 7100 for USA and China will think of invading Alaska?
http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat
The Candy Libs are posting tonight.
If someone kicks in the door on my house, they are getting the worst I have to offer.
When China makes the move on Canada, it’s not as if we’re all getting conscripted.
It’s going sci-fi nuclear and will be over within mere hours. wussies.
Why would anyone want Seward's Folly?
What a total crock of shit !!!!!
Bernie, Quigley, any relation to Carroll Quigley?
C’mon…
You can’t follow the statement, “Total war.”
With, “And they know that they have every advantage,”
If these supposed cycles are every 65 years, and the US is supposedly right at the cusp of the end of a cycle, what critical event happened in the 1959-50-51 timeframe that was so monumental as to signal the end of this supercycle? Or, because we.re exceptional, are our cycles longer?
Actually, Strauss & Howe use a cycle length of (roughly) 80 years. Previous Fourth Turnings were marked by the Great Depression/WWII and before that, the Civil War. Our current Fourth Turning was predicted (in 1997) to occur in 2005 and last about 20 years.
One of the main points S&H make is that Fourth Turnings do NOT lead inevitably to war, as this author seems to claim. Winter will be followed by spring, as it always has been. What kind of winter we have is up to us.
When China and Russia start mining in the US, will the Pope care?
Or, will he just issue them a papal carbon credit?
How about a Chinese dissertation on the Tao of collapse. They have had a few. And the question is: has the CCP lost the mandate of heaven? The protests going on in China would tend to so indicate. The oligargchs of China are no better than ours. And in some ways - income inequality - are worse.
How is China coming with its blue water Navy? Its aircraft carrier?
And you have to ask is the quality of their military eqpt any better than the quality of the stuff they make for the Dollar Store?
And the big question - how much of China is an illusion? Do they need their military to keep domestic peace? And how about the Chinese Muslim Province?
This article is New Age BS.
How many times can I agree with this?
China has serious structural problems - as bad or worse than those in the USA. I know our govt. is incompetent, but I can tell you their govt. is triply so. China will be in civil war within 10 years - that is far more likely than China invading Alaska UNLESS the U.S. Govt. simply makes a back room deal.
(it's a novel I'm working on)
(and this might happen before I finish)
They may not allow conditions for a civil war -Russia is kicking out the NGOs - don't assume Tieneman Square is the future -western style domocracy is not China -nor should it be. When the Chinese crack down on dissent -it will likely be effective and brutal -especially in time of war. Don't believe the Chinese will rally to defend Uncle Sam. We are not the good guys and the Chinese and Russian people know itIt will not happen.
the DC deep state would love for China to devolve back to "kingdom of the warlords" (preferably with gold to buy more weapons)
China is not becoming like we "used to be", we are becoming more like China.
They do indeed. An unprotected but "off limits" supply chain, extending thousands of kilometers, permitting them to attack at a time and place of their choosing.
Attacking Adak? Yep, that would be the other side of the VeetNam coin.
- Ned
Fruitcake of the year, Bernie.
DC does not need anyone to throw them into disarray. They are experts at doing it to themselves.
The Chinese leaders have been taking lessons. And they have made significant improvements over DC in that regard.
If we wished to attack China, all we need to do is raise rates.
Yawn...
In the short term, the idea of the Chinese attacking the US (Alaska or any other part) is totally ridicurous, only plausible to someone with zero understanding of the military balance of power in the Pacific (the US Navy is totally dominant everywhere, except perhaps within a couple hundred miles of the Chinese coast). Give it a couple decades and things might change, but for the time being, this is silly.
WW3 will clearly not start with a Russo/Chinese invasion of Alaska -but if you want to tie up the US pacific fleet and divert tem from other strategic areas - why is this not a good strategy?
We will do what we did in WW2 when Japan invaded Alaska. Mostly ignore it. Let them build internment camps (I mean bases) in Alaska. That will keep their forces busy fighting the elements. At very low cost to us.
The PLAN's just not capable (at this time) of challenging the USN. Any force sent to Alaska to distract the USN would get mopped up without too much ado, without forcing the USN to spread itself thin enough that the PLAN could do anything in another location. China's obviously trying to build a blue water navy, but they aren't there yet. For the time being, the best they can hope for is to scare the USN out of the Taiwan Straight with land-based air and missiles ("area denial"), so they can launch an invasion of Taiwan unmolested. But anywhere further out to sea, they're toast.
The Balance of Power At a Glance:
PLAN/USN
Carriers = 1(sort of)/19
Nuclear Submarines = 6/73
Destroyers & Cruisers = 25/84
...the USN budget is more than the budget for the entire Chinese military (navy, army, air force).
Sooner or later, China's going to be a formidable naval rival, but not yet.
USN budget paid for with worthless fiat. If the dollar or US financially implodes then ships "ain't" leaving port and navies rapidly fall apart.
Missile technology is the key and the Russian are ahead. US contractors and the Pentagram are totally corrupt like the rest of the US Govt. Corrupt systems eventaully fall apart and fail.
*Spoiler Alert*
All governments are corrupt.
All MICs are bloated and inefficient.
Yes, the US has major economic problems. But so does China.
You can't just assume that the US is going to have to cut its naval budget in the near future, while China continues to increase it's own. That might happen, or it might not. China has the potential to keep growing (economically and militarily), but that's dependent on their policy decisions. Who knows what will actually happen. In the short run, however, I can tell you with absolute certainty that China is not going to be a naval threat to the US. Even if they tripled their naval budget tomorrow, developing and building ships (and training sailors) takes time. It's not done overnight.
The Eskimos can rest easy for a least a while longer..
Interesting choice of camo for the launchers.....Artic Circle.
Excellent Observation.
If WW3 started, would not an invasion of Alaska and canada be a smart strategic move? Control of the Arctic is a pretty smart strategic step.
Absolutely brilliant step. Every battle group will require at least one ice breaker. And winter operations? Even ice breakers will not help.
Not to mention that there's nothing in Alaska worth attacking in the first place, other than the oil pipelines, for which task a couple special forces guys with explosives would be much more suitable than an amphibious invasion.
Who thinks up this cold war propaganda crap anyways?
If I were Chinese or Russian I wouldn't come here. This place is infested with banksters.
They of course have their own. But we have a leg up. Ours are Jewish.
Guess you haven't heard about all the Chinese Jooos calling for US Bankster-Gov't stablizing actions? Was on ZH just yesterday. Mao is blowing his Shofar from the grave.
BTW, I didn't junk your post.
Their own and then some from the US - Goldman Sach, JP Morgan, Citibank, ...
This writer is a goon, China is just tired of the USA for it's incompetence and the DOLLAR as reigning supreme currency... China and Russia have been hoarding as much Gold as you could possibly dig up.. Why would they launch an attack? Plus an attack will fall into Americas hand and give the USA a reason to go to war WE are good for that! What they are doing is political posturing. Jim Rogers stated that the 19th century Great Britain was the place to live. The 20th century it was the USA as the super power. Jim Rogers believes that China will be the Super power of the 21st century...
Jim Rogers believes that China will be the Super power of the 21st century...
Which privince? China is breaking up faster than the US.
Zionist know there schemes are coming to an end.. We have no GOLD its been savaged by these war mongers/blood sucking vouchers.. Gold is king..IN history he who has gold power follows.. Everywhere in the planet its turmoil.. Unless you are a goverment goon like yourself who thinks that America can be great again... It was intill we let the wrong people take over!!!! You are have been exposed SIMON SAYS FUCK YOUR!!
I have been exposed for a LONG time. LONG before you found me out. None the less China and Russia are not self sufficient in FOOD.
I suppose they can eat the GOLD. Or use it to buy food from America. Until the GOLD runs out.
Say who winds up with the GOLD under those circumstances?
Easily blinded by shiny metals are you? Keep in mind that GOLD is just a medium of exchange. Now what do Russia and China NEED? They need exports of stuff and imports of FOOD. War will kill exports and reduce opportunities for imports. Especially if they make America an enemy. Or if America makes them an enemy.
I wouldn't be so war hungry if I was you. It rarely turns out as hoped. For any side. And especially for people in the middle.
You have let your hate over rule your reason. The very thing this article councils against. And in fact I council against it as well. Except for my enemies. If you choose to be my enemy - hate on. I prefer weak enemies to strong ones. Only the stupid or desperate fight battles where the odds are not in their favor.
Will the Eskimos launch a preemptive strike on China?
War?
Nah, they're not inuit.
While WWIII may very well break out, it is unlikely to be from an invasion by Russia and China, if history tells us anything. The author seems to be projecting the proven and repeated beligerance of the US Empire onto those nations.
Animals Can Be Jerks - Supercut Compilation 2013!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vx1OVLX5Rc (6:16)
They can't have Canada but they can gladly take USA and beat some sense into it.
Mexico has a better chance than China.
MSIMON= Government puppet... Please try again with another name now... Mexico is a third world country.. China or Russia they produce and o yeah have a lot of GOLD
So are they going to invade America with GOLD? I'd love to see it.
I've kept the same name on the 'net since FIDONET days.
I don't have much love for government generally. But I prefer realism to fantasy. I want to defeat my enemies. Not go out in a blaze of glory.
Right now in everyway except for Russian nukes China and Russia together are weaker than the USA. Russia and China are net food importers. Russia and China depend on selling stuff to the West for their economies.
China and Russia NEED war to fix their economies. The American economy is currently the least broken major economy on the planet. Which may not be saying much. But it helps.
I will believe a major war is coming when Russia and China start crash programs to increase their food production. So far I'm not seeing it. Of course they could eat gold. If they get hungy enough.
Gold is not the only value in the world. Food is more important. Gold is just more easily transported. To buy food? Well that is one use.
Neither Russia nor China will invade nor attack US they're going to let that to the hungry masses when they shoot down the EBT, food stamp computer systems and let all those parasites lazy Americans with nothing for months.
"Will China invade Canada" - lol. They are already here - 1.6 million Chinese immigrants here and growing. We've also contracted out having kids (birth rate 1.59 and dropping fast) so we import Canadians as well.
I have a list of expendable US cites; DC, NYC, Baltimore, Newark, Boston, Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, Seattle, Portland, San FranFreako, El A, and Filthadelphia. Let's just code it as Operation Jericho.
Dont forget denver, everyone knows if DC goes down thats where the cockroaches are going to run to lol
Good addition. I think seven more to fill the top 20 US cities most expendable. Birmingham, Jackson, Memphis, Cleveland....
I'm willing to donate the California colony that is Austin.
Fuck, three minutes I'll never get back after reading that shit.
Damn neocons have a hard on for war and no one will take them out on a date. Awwww...too bad...go whack off in a corner somewhere.
Alaska might "Leave" the Union beforehand.
Why invade the USA? It's collapsing under its own weight, possibly going to wage another War someplace, and is seriously in Debt via a widely used Currency. There are over 330MM Mouths to feed; and the ever increasing (internal and external growth) Latinos are due to make more than 50% of the Western and Southwestern Population Makeup. The Alaskan and Hawaiian Indy Mvmts might get some more support/traction then. That might end up with, say, a "New Aztlan" and/or Alaska / Hawa'ii spinning off from the USA.
Drug / Human Trafficking is rampant; and knocking at the door from MEX.
Besides, CAN is a resource rich exporter - benign to many. Makes no sense to invade the USA and cause problems.
If CHN thinks it can take over the World, they'll have to reconsider. Maybe KOR, DPK, PHI, and AUS - even IDN and MYS; but no further. RUS, JPN, and IND stand in the way; and two of the three are good trading parnters. JPN might call on the USA; but by then, the Independent Hawks will take over from the Peaceniks who like being Vassal/Colonies to the Hegemon.
If the Hawks succeed, JPN becomes Independent. If they fail, USA will PERMANENTLY pwn JPN.
That's my Opinion.
330M mouths to feed? Well how about feeding China and Russia as well?
Drug trafficking? We are ending Prohibition. China and Russia are keeping it.
Food. Is grown in excess in America. Russia and China are net food importers.
Num num, delicious roundup drenched food.
The American olgarchs want to kill all their useless eaters.
Well I have been eating that Roundup drenched food for 20 years. My health is good.
But of course when it comes down to it if you prefer starvation - I will not stop you. Your choice.
Hate on my friend. It will weaken you more than traces of Roundup. And it works a LOT quicker.
And American food is some of the cheapest on the planet. Avoid it at all costs. It keeps you from spending your money on other things.
seeing is believing
Stick out your tongue and say "ah"
"Good"
Now face the wall and cough.
"Oh oh."
HUH?
Secretary of State John Kerry’s appeasement of the Ayatollahs in the Iran deal comes as no surprise.
Where'd that piece of propaganda come from? Nice little insert into the article there.
It's easy to understand Kerry and Obama's betrayal of every soldier killed or wounded by an Iranian paid for IED. They want the power they will get from allowing the 150 billion of locked up Iranian money to return to Iran from places like Sweden. Those crony capitalist will get to benefit from the freed up funds and Obama and Kerry will be more powerful for making it happen.
NO OTHER REASON for this TREATY that is being called NOT A TREATY. The lies and the evil about us are astonishing.
The Art of War also describe a-symmetric war, it would be easier for China to extort the West, to deal off Vancouver, Canada for appeasement. The Chinese would love to have a foot hold in North America, a North American free port (Vancouver, Canada, 2nd largest West coast port in the Americas) to guarantee raw material shipments. However, this will never happen, the Canadians would fight and win, home ice advantage and the USA would support Canada with that effort in every way. The Chinese are not stupid, they already own large parts of the Canadian oil and gas business with major investments in the tar sands and other Canadian resources. It is a fantasy that the Chinese would invade North America, they don't have to, they will just buy it instead.
here's a lil sumpin that could get interesting in the legal fiction we're living in.
http://anticorruptionsociety.com/
What a seriously dumb question. Why would China invade Canada when they are already buying it? And if Russia invaded Canada they'd then have a war with China over invading property China has bought.
Invade? and do what? why spend all that money? fear porn...
Neo shit fucks are losing their duped fighters. Immigrants won't fight for bullshit and whitey to old or medicated stupid fucks. Forget social blacks. Running out of fodder. Rome I say Rome.
Huh?
Call me an idealist, but it is such a damn shame to see all these seemingly intelligent folks on ZH with such a terrible attitudes. If this country, our home, is not worth fighting for, then what is? What is the alternative? A European continent being overran by third world Islamo nazis? The odds have been stacked against us many times before. Yes, the grand idea that is America has been perverted to a point that it is almost unrecognizable, but it is still there grasping for air. I choose to see the silver lining in this situation, that with this unavoidable conflict that will soon arise, there is hope to rebuild in the likeness of the founding fathers and what we hold dear. What is the alternative? America is not Wall Street, or Washington D.C., or even our military. It's our neighbors, our community, and our once great culture. Turn your attitudes around people. The world will be a much darker place with out us. Yes, I agree, our corrupt politicians have brought havoc on the world, but that is not us, that is not our unavoidable destiny. There is hope. Down vote this all you want, but our enemies are armed with car bombs and AK-47s, your cynicism will not be a defense.
Oh please. Dumb white American males cheering on Trayvon thugs and cheering on the genocide of their own race in doing so. Stupid suckers. The dumbest ones are white males at these colleges cheering on trayvon thugs and enabling and helping them grow.
Americans are too dumb to turn off the TV. Conservatives still thinking fox News is their friend and still watch Tv and ball games with Trayvon thugs. Stupid serfs.
The Grand Idea of America died in The banksters Civil War.
The world will not be a darker place. Russia is a lot less dark. The zios allowing the invasion of the West and America are making the USA, Europe and other places "darker."
Right on cue, our friendly neighborhood Russian sympathizer. The KGB, where Putin was molded, is known for its friendly behsvior. Lol, why don't you ask some folks who were alive to see the Russians plunder and rape the countryside on their way to Berlin, how friendly they were.
As juvenille as this will sound, why don't you try to be the light, and not an energy sucking waste of space.
Yeah, right.
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a more pertinent question would be: what country will the USA invade/occupy/overthrow/bomb next?
are they trying to justify a US military budget increase?
the psychopaths are insane
If you assume they are insane then you have no way of predicting their next move. So let us assume they are not insane and try to figure out what is happening.
What do the current wars do? Well they weaken Europe for one. That is a benefit to the US.
Russia NEEDs to import food and to sell gas and oil to Europe. A pipeline from Saudi Arabia through Syria threatens that. So Russia needs this war. And especially Russia needs to keep Syria on its side. Can they? Maybe. But you have to assume that America would not start this trouble if they didn't feel they could come out ahead from it.
China? Well they are net importers of food too. And their exports are collapsing. China's books are cooked and it is a poisoned country. If they clean up the poisons they will have fewer resources for militarism. And the Chinese people are clamoring for clean up.
So who next? No one else for now. The current wars are more than enough for all concerned is my estimate.
So how would I defeat the American oiligarchs? Promote individual liberty. But tat is hardly popular anywhere. Unfortunately. The vast majority WANT to be ruled if the eats are regular. The oiligarchs have human nature on their side. Pity.
Sun Tsu said many relevant things. Among them: "Often the best strategy is to stand back and wait for your enemy to destroy themselves."
I believe this is Beijings strategy.
Yes. But can they? They are not self sufficient in food. A big gap in their armor.
I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords.
If I have to chose Russians or Chinese it is Russians all the way.
You're forgetting the hot Chinese military girls and the barbequed puppies.
Ironic, the author writes "time to read Sun Tzu’s The Art of War",
I guess he didn't read it just before giving this article a title.
Christ, what horseshit!
Zerohedge was once a website worth visiting for information. Now it's full of cranks.
I agree mdkersey, if I wanted to read childish fairytales I would go to a childish fairytale site
You should know!
Five Chinese navy ships are currently operating in the Bering Sea off the coast of Alaska, the Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday, marking the first time the U.S. military has seen them in the area. Why the sudden interest?"
Well...why don't we just extend a hand in friendship...
...and ASK 'em?
Loons like this are how we always get into it...
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'Course, we didn't give a shit about them, as we pissed them off, while buzzing the Spratleys a few months back, now did we...
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What a dumb article. Why would China attack Canada?
Yeah, yeah, OK! On to more important things, what are Justin Beeber and Lady Gaga doing this week?!?
I have a feeling many people here still believe the dividing line goes vertical between east and west, or US and China/Russia.
the real line is horizontal between the rulers and the ruled, no matter if in US or China or Russia or anywhere...
djoos guys be on it tonight baybee...