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Caught On Tape: Donald Trump Asked About Libertarianism

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

*Note: This post originally maintained Trump was saying “be careful” to Nick Gillespie, when in reality he seems to have been talking to others walking with him in the crowd with equipment. The post has been changed to reflect this realization.

Reason’s editor in chief Nick Gillespie recently caught up with Donald Trump on the campaign trail and asked him about libertarianism. This is what ensued:

 

This exchange is troubling from several different angles.

First off, Trump does his typical dance in which he avoids questions he doesn’t want to answer by giving a simplistic jingoistic response.

 

He is clearly uncomfortable with the question. Why?

Overall, the above exchange is kind of unnecessary since it’s abundantly clear Trump is anti-liberty and anti-freedom.

Let’s recall what he said should be done with Edward Snowden. From a Washington Times story in 2013:

Edward Snowden, the man at the heart of the NSA information leaks, is nothing but a “traitor” — and America ought to recreate history in dealing with him, real estate mogul Donald Trump said on a “Fox & Friends” interview.

 

In other words, execute him, Mr. Trump implied.

 

“I think Snowden is a terrible threat, I think he’s a terrible traitor, and you know what we used to do in the good old days when we were a strong country — you know what we used to do to traitors, right?”

For more on the “real” Donald Trump, see:

Rand Paul Op-ed Blasts Donald Trump – Calls Him a “Fake Conservative” and Wannabe “King”

Will Donald Trump Run as a 3rd Party Candidate?

Donald Trump the Demagogue

You’re Fired – Trump Campaign Tweets Photo of Trump’s Head Next to Nazi Soldiers

Meet the Immigrants Building Trump’s International Hotel in Washington D.C.

 

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Thu, 09/10/2015 - 16:42 | 6532903 dexter_morgan
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Apparently the Tylers, and/or Krieger, are not down with a Trump presidency. Scarier question, who is it they would want to win? Hitlery Bush? Jeb Clinton? Or Bernie Sanders - oy vey - for fucks sake?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:11 | 6533081 Billy Sol Estes
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Same shit, different election year. Trump wont change a damn thing. He is loud and boisterous to bring emotioanl appeal to the outraged voters on Facebook.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:52 | 6533700 logicalman
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THE US IS FUCKED IN THE WORST WAY!

And, by extension, so is the world. An injured, dying animal tends to thrash about wildly for a bit before finally expiring.

Look long and hard at the 'choices' you are about to be offered and tell me I'm wrong.


Thu, 09/10/2015 - 16:43 | 6532916 piratepiet2
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some impressions from a European who watches all this from afar with one eye :

Trump is an absolute insider and establishment figure playing his role.  People who think they would show the estasblishment the middle finger by voting Trump are mistaken.  Sadly the only possible protest vote in the US today is no vote.  That does not mean Trump would necessarily be all bad.  I believe people can rise to the occasion when put in a certain position and do better than expected.  

If Trump gets nominated, Hillary's chances will be really slim.  The guy has created a macho image with a hint of sexism that will make a "battle of the sexes" interpretation of a Trump-Hillary standoff unavoidable.  Hillary can hardly win such a struggle from her position as a potential first female US president.  I think that's why they are talking about Biden now.  Gotta fight fire with fire.  

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 16:40 | 6532921 johnlocke445
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I'm still backing Trump. He's the only one taking an aggressive stance in illegal aliens.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:09 | 6533069 Billy Sol Estes
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Like that shit matters. He appeals to the lowest form of intelligence in America, racial traits amongst voters. Next you are going to tell me he will "Create Jobs" when in office.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:48 | 6533254 NoPension
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Racial traits matter, dumbass.

And I can prove my point.

You cannot. You can't do it.

You will, I guarantee, simply call me a racist. That's all you got. I'm immune to it.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:55 | 6533714 logicalman
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Immune to it??

Or unable to see what's going on around you and think clearly about it.

To be fair, though, go ahead and 'prove it'

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 22:15 | 6534229 Stares straight...
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"Communism and fascism or nazism, although poles apart in their intellectual content, are similar in this, that both have emotional appeal to the type of personality that takes pleasure in being submerged in a mass movement and submitting to superior authority."
James A.C. Brown, in Techniques of Persuasión : From Propaganda to Brainwashing (1963), p. 105

"Trump is a fascist."
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Thu, 09/10/2015 - 16:44 | 6532935 lasvegaspersona
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We 'l' people know the D is not one of our guys but all of our guys failed to speak up when the speakin' was good. Trump beat them to a few obvious truths and now he is probably the best we can get (which is unbelievable and unfortunate).

This is what we wind up with when all our 'principled' candidates either lack talent (Paul) or fail to voice the truth soon enough (Cruz).

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 16:49 | 6532961 overmedicatedun...
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trump knows he needs talent to come in with him (if that ever happens)..how about ron paul for sec treasury for starters..?? who he picks for his adm will tell the tale cause the pres is just one man..would like to see him name some names ..if they are all insider pols who are loved by dc well then he will have come out.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 16:45 | 6532943 cookies anyone
Thu, 09/10/2015 - 16:47 | 6532951 lester1
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Trump 2016 !!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 16:49 | 6532968 Inbetween is pain
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Heil Trump!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 16:58 | 6533009 orangegeek
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Trump is a progressive and changes his storyline worse than most politicians - yes even Hilary.

 

Trump is a long term friend of the Clintons.

 

Thought Walker would do better.

 

Oh well, next stop on this ride is Hell, regardless.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:00 | 6533023 johnjkiii
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Let's look at the catalogure of idiots, priapic morons and liars as President since 1964. Johnson: liar crook and when it finally mattered, a whimpering coward. Then there's Nixon and his paranoid neo Keynesian limped-dickism: "I am not a crook." Follow that with The scourge of the rabbit, Jimmah. A small minded Peanut farmer with an equally sized brain. Then, of course we have Bill the priapist who is forever known by the haunting phrase - "it depends on what is - is". Last we have Barack the unable. Complete proof that the left will select the lowest common denominator to deliver its final blow. In between we were treated to the Bush family of fools, dolts and assorted big business cronyists that only served to make the leftists look good.

And now Trump-the Hump. Are we really worried that we will be worse off? LO effing L.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:01 | 6533028 Billy Sol Estes
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No really? Did it take this video to get people to realize this?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:02 | 6533032 buyingsterling
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He won't be stopped. He called Fiorina ugly today, and people won't care. They know that every other republican will fold in the face of opposition if they are elected; we get a continued slide into statism. That MIGHT not happen under Trump, which is the best odds we've had at the ballot box in my lifetime (I'm 48).

Trump is something like a king, insofar as he has a very visible empire that he will want to maintain after he is elected. That is one of the benefits of monarchy, the monarch is more inclined to stewardship. That's why the border wall will get built, which is why he will be elected.

And building the wall changes everything, most importantly the attitude of Americans: many will understand that real change in the right direction is possible. That is why we see so much 'sheepishness' - it's not that people don't care (the reaction to Trump's candidacy shows many still do) it's that pre-Trump, they didn't think anything they did would matter.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:12 | 6533087 dexter_morgan
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Hmm....I must be getting old, I think Fiorina is oddly attractive........

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:25 | 6533147 FredFlintstone
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dup

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:24 | 6533148 FredFlintstone
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yep, anything under 30 and anything fit and trim over that can get my attention. but Donald can afford much better quality

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:54 | 6533282 NoPension
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She's no Sarah Palin though. :)

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:20 | 6533109 falak pema
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Ironic isn't it?

Ronnie saying : Gorby bring down that Stasi wall. You are the evil empire and we are the people who cherish freedom.

Now : A wall with Mehico and another dreamt of with Canada! Who'd have thought that possible?

God has his ways of punishing those who sow the wind...and ride the tempest.

J Edgar would be proud of Trump; a true American hero.

A true king of a Casino economy.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:23 | 6533133 FredFlintstone
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he implied she was ugly? oh, the horror! don't be a cunt, its not attractive

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:06 | 6533051 newworldorder
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kreiger is a hypocrite and a BS artist. I have visitied his site and no Mr. Krieger, the timefactor of how illegals and legals came to the US is important.

One can be illegal and once they marry or obtain citizizenship by other means, they are no longer illegal. Once you obtain citizenship by legal means, you become "legal."

Now, i will admit I am looking seriously at trump, but many like me have not made up their minds to give him political support. 

A hatchet job by Kreiger.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:08 | 6533059 dexter_morgan
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Mr Krieger, as a change of pace, perhaps you'd like to stop pointing out the many flaws of the Donald (too easy, really) and start building a positive case for who you think would be better and why - who IS that true libertarian hiding in the weeds out there we can all rally around?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:31 | 6533181 Billy Sol Estes
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Her name is Anne Archy

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:00 | 6533732 logicalman
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Always been a big fan of Anne!

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:09 | 6533062 cinderalle
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I have always contended that Donald is a charlatan I am just shocked that Americans are being bamboozled once again, his masters are the bankstars, he is just whipping americans into a frenzy by saying the right things at the right time, he is a sheep in wolves skin

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:16 | 6533099 dexter_morgan
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All likely true, but which one, pretending that voting actually matters, is any different than Trump concerning the banksters?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:03 | 6533739 logicalman
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If only.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

Most will likely be ...

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:18 | 6533094 Sockshow Puppethand
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We have a casino stock market, economy, monetary policy, foreign and domestic policy, and Congress.

What the hell?!?! Might as well roll the dice with a casino president. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:15 | 6533096 TalkToLind
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Do you really want to see him stammer? Ask him exactly how many refugees Tel Aviv and Jerusalem are willing to take in. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:38 | 6534083 MSimon
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Why would he stammer at a policy he favors?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:16 | 6533102 Bill of Rights
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You mean you mean he's acting like a politicians OMG

Who gives a flying fuck

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:20 | 6533119 FredFlintstone
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he is awesome in that video. he's a fucking hard ass

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:32 | 6533176 Sockshow Puppethand
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What I like the most about Trump is, no matter how hard the press tries to make him sweat harder than Lois Lerner at a Tea Party rally, he remains positively unflappable.

In fact, it’s the opposite. It’s him who has the asshole media sweating.

And I do not lump Gillespie in there with the masshole media. He’s alright as far as I’m concerned.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:21 | 6533124 reader2010
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George Carlin says jerkng off is much better than wasting your time on elections. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:23 | 6533597 hoist the bs flag
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because "when you are done, you have something to show for it"...I miss Carlin

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:23 | 6533135 fatlibertarian
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Trump would take us to war to prove he's a hard ass.

I would NEVER vote for this guy. He's a loose cannon.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:32 | 6533185 TalkToLind
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I would never vote, period! All politicians are vermin.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:07 | 6533753 logicalman
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You may get some down votes from vermin!

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:24 | 6533150 TuPhat
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Just because Trump is better than any other repubs does not mean he is any good.  I support no political party or politicians.  I love my country but I hate the US.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:27 | 6533164 Joe Tierney
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I knew the American electorate is a pack of SFB morons, but this is shocking even to me.....

 

Ahead in the polls? Big crowds wherever he goes?

 

This guy is nothing but George W. Bush (half-wit, born idiot) with Bill Clinton's boner....and Obama's poon tang....

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:28 | 6533166 eyes wide open
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This is a non story.  He was not saying becareful to the reporter.  He said it before he asked if he wanted to name a good quality of libertarianism.   Trump as was talking to people in front of him.  This story actually should not even be on this site.  It is not a factual story.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:22 | 6533592 hoist the bs flag
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'This story actually should not even be on this site.  It is not a factual story."

ZH tends to do this. must be the "Shmitah' or some shit.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:34 | 6533192 NubianSundance
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Trump says he has a golf handicap of 4, which is pretty good, but according to Forbes has yet to produce a signed scorecard. All mouth?

from http://www.forbes.com/sites/monteburke/2012/04/18/famous-golfers-and-the...
Donald Trump, 4: “The Donald” owns 10 golf courses, with another three on the way. Still yet to produce a real signed scorecard.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:34 | 6533197 SHsparx
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Trump also endorsed immirgration lol. The Trump bubble is beginning to burst. Watching the Trump fanboys gradually implode as the election progresses is going to be epic.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:39 | 6533217 aztrader
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We don't know exactly what we will get with Trump, but we do know what we will get with the rest of them and that has proved to be a disaster.   The GOP has both houses and nothing has changed in any way.   Obama gets his way all the time, the crappy laws that they pass will only hurt the job market and they continue to allow wall street to break the law.

 

I want to see a businessman take charge and see what he can do.  No more lifetime politicans or attorney's that are only interested in their own power and money.   Let's see him bring in some smart people to run the government rather then a bunch of political hacks that are functionally braindead.  The current adminstration is the most incompetent in history and not one person that works for Obama is worth a plug nickel.  Just think what would happen if we ran the government like a business and shut down every wasteful program, hired employees that actually do their job and make those employees accountable for their actions.   There is no responsibility in government and when they screw up, nothing happens.   I believe this will change under Trump.

 If Trump screws up, then he has a lot to lose financially and I think this will keep him in line.   We know what we are getting due to his public life unlike the current president where every fact about his life has been hidden.   We have $7 trillion in new debt and nothing to show for it.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:45 | 6533235 Yen Cross
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   At least Trump admits he buys politicians...He's using his own money for his campaign, for just that reason.

 All the clowns running against Trump can't even admit they've been bought off buy the likes of Trump, many times over.

 Trump might be a bully, but I'd rather have a bully that's going to make some mistakes running the show, as opposed to some bought and paid for Bush or Clintonite crony.

 The reason people let Trump slide and take him serious, is because he puts his money where his mouth is!

  Trump has the most to lose both in reputation, and monetarily.

 You don't have to vote, but not voting or being proactive in some way is a decision in itself. Problems don't get fixed sitting on the sidelines bitching about how insignificant your input is.

 Bitchez

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:50 | 6533255 TalkToLind
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But who is Trump loyal to, the American people or someone else?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:54 | 6533273 Yen Cross
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 You have to actually ask yourself that question?

 Wake the fuck up! Trump doen't need the money, and he could sure as hell take a $billion+ and invest in a more productive way then American politics.

 For that matter, if he wasn't interested in the well being of the country, he could just hold fundraisers and leech off everyone like all the other candidates.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:59 | 6533286 TalkToLind
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I don't have to ask anything (the question was rhetorical). Just click on the link in my first comment and let Trump himself tell you who he's loyal to.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:02 | 6533305 Yen Cross
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 When you have some actual facts, let me know. I deal with rhetorical all day long.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:36 | 6533428 Yen Cross
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  So what. Show me one(viable) candidate that hasn't pubically stated the same thing?

  I judge people on their merits and accomplishments as individuals.

  You posting that link says you're just another monkey in someones pack, troop, tribe ect..

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:59 | 6533516 HughBriss
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Speaking of monkey, how's the Trump-troop treating you?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:33 | 6533625 Yen Cross
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 I shared facts. You'll be the first to know when I chose a candidate Junior Spaulding.

 If I were you, I'd be spending more time putting together how you're going to sell moving your family back into your childhood basement is going play with your parents.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:10 | 6533763 logicalman
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Billionairs only get that way by being addicted to money.

Ask a junkie how much smack is too much.

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:12 | 6533770 alphahammer
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Spooky ghosts! Its all a big conspiracy. Everything. Obama is a time traveller living under the Denver airport...

Fer fucks sake...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:51 | 6533268 thismarketisrigged
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To all the people who have stated that trump would prob be no different than any of the other past presidents we have had , while that deff maybe true, ask yourself this.

 

whether any of us vote or not, someone is going to be president of the united states starting 2017 again.  so if the belief is that all candidates are the same, and you know that whomever is elected president will be in the news, on tv, etc all the time, just like this jackass hussein is, wouldnt it be in everyones best interest to have someone who will be at least entertaining, will say what is on his mind, etc, as opposed to some boring loser like hitlery, or hussein, or jeb, etc?

 

trump has also made some crazy promises, it will be so entertaining trying to watch him rid this country of all the illegals, building a wall, etc. 

 

trump 2016!!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:53 | 6533274 MEFOBILLS
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Brother Nathanael:

 

If I were president:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfy4zKO0LXw

 

Trump wouldn't do any of these things.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:32 | 6533414 TalkToLind
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Brother Nathanael is a one man Zionism wrecking machine. I don't know how he gets away with it.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:45 | 6533462 AlfredNeumann
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Brother Nathaniel is a Jew.    He claims to hate Jews but a Leopard doesn't change his spot.  Notice he spends a lot of time begging for money.  

He is funny to listen to though,  and very spot on about the KIKE roaches.

Only guy more honest was Bobby Fischer, chess champ, also a Jew.  

Listen to what he says about the Jews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oO0_1oS_oU

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:54 | 6533284 ThrowAwayYourTV
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The TRUMP on taxing China.

https://youtu.be/wN7KHWdyrbI

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:01 | 6533298 Yen Cross
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 Trump should tax the fuck out of China. China has been devaluing the Yuan for almost 2 decades against the $usd to gain export advantages.

 Until about 12-18 months ago China started to allow the yuan/usd trading band to tighten, thereby strengthening the Yuan. This was done to stimulate internal consumption through lower import costs.

 This scheme backfired badly on the PBoC and now, here we sit back at '12 usd/cny levels with the PBoC dumping $USD denominated debt.

 BTW, China taxes the fuck out of $usd imports, and is so pathetically corrupt, that you're lucky if you can even buy your way into the Chinese domestic markets in the first place.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:52 | 6533702 alphahammer
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Wait, so we do agree. Hmm...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:16 | 6533782 Yen Cross
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 Yes, you can stay up late tonight, and play Fast-7 on your X-Box, if you eat your peas.

 Agree with what exactly? I write paragraphs generally.

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:23 | 6533807 alphahammer
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Correct me if I'm wrong. You want to hold China accountable. Maybe I was lost in a daydream of what I was going to have for dinner or my new handle on Call of Duty but I'm pretty sure thats what you said... 

China needs to understand that a few people see through their bullshit and will say so. Just so we aren't confused, I said that.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:58 | 6534162 Yen Cross
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 It's not my responsibilty to educate you.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 17:54 | 6533285 Chris88
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Now where's my apologies for all the down arrows I got for every post I wrote about what a fucking joke this clown was?  Sorry but even from the onset if you supported this guy you're a fucking moron.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:04 | 6533321 The Most Intere...
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Your representation of what he said is completely inaccurate.  He was obviously just trying to wind his way through traffic.  If you don't like him, just come out and say so.  Is he Rand Paul or Ron Paul, Liberterian?  No, not even close...BUT neither Rand or Ron have come close to garnishing enough support to be President.  Hey, maybe Trump gets in there and shakes up the Socialists a little bit and people like it.  Then they might be ready for Rand.  IDK, I think anyone even slightly right of the Fasco/Communists in power now is a step in the right direction.  BTW, Trump VS Boehner.  I think Trump kicks the shit out of that punk.  PPV would raise millions to pay down debt too!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:08 | 6533329 Dre4dwolf
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The guy cant even walk through all the people, what if he had to take a shit and was holding it in?

I would be uncomfortable also lol.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:18 | 6533366 frankly scarlet
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Whale oil beef hooked if I Trump or Sander or Stein....think I'll sit and watch all the fools be played again.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:20 | 6533378 steveo77
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Here is one you can't blame on Bush....

Death of the Pacific Ocean.

Instead of MSM covering this world changing event, last week they give airtime to "Big Blue" from like 2006 which portends to show an ocean vibrant with life.   

Instead reality is the Pacific is dying, mass animal deaths, even NOAA declaring an UME Unusual Mortality Event.    Attacked from several directions, with Fukushima as the last straw.

Here is 61 pages of links to articles that show the progression of this disaster since 2011.

Spread the word.    Its time to wake up, or else its "wake up, time to die"

http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2015/09/61-pages-of-stories-of-deat...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:22 | 6533384 I need Another Beer
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Its true about propaganda . It works !! Unlike the zh people on this site, I will support a private citizen for president as it was done after the founding.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:43 | 6533443 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Donald Trump is nothing but a           T  R  A  I  T  O  R  to have said what he said about Edward Snowden, a true American hero.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:47 | 6533466 AlfredNeumann
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Everyone of the candidates just tell you what you want to hear.   He knows the majority of americans think Snowden is a traitor.

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:50 | 6533481 dreadnaught
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and he is about the only one who thinks that-we need MORE people to weed out corruption, who hide their illegal doings behind "National Sekurity"

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:48 | 6534122 Buster Cherry
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Oh I think you're wrong about that.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:49 | 6534127 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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My grandfather lost a leg in the First World War in France. My father was RCAF in the Second World War, and I am seventh generation Canadian. Edward Snowden is most welcome in CANADA and I will personally sponsor Edward Snowden for Canadian Citizenship, and lobby the Government of CANADA if Edward Snowden wants to become a CANADIAN. It would be a great honour for CANADA to have Edward Snowden as a CANADIAN citizen. The United States of America does not stand up for Edward Snowden, or their victims of mass genocide in the World Trade Center controlled demolitions of World Trade Centers #1 & #2, plus building seven, but, I, for one, do. Furthermore, the New York Times Editorial Board recommended that the White House & Congress should grant a pardon to Snowden and give him immunity from prosecution if he is brought back to the USA to live freely. The Whore House should have taken the advice of the NYT Ed Board IMHO.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:48 | 6533468 Goldilocks
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Sesame Street v Goodfellas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH79jOCQc6Q (1:51)

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:50 | 6533480 AlfredNeumann
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I renounced last year and still got a letter from the last county I lived in wondering if the should send me an absentee ballot like always.

Evidently the US govt didn't give them  the info I was no longer an American.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:02 | 6533531 TalkToLind
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Take advantage of that absentee ballot, man.  Write in Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, or Deez Nuts or something.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:03 | 6533535 AlfredNeumann
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I might do that and just for shits and grins turn in the County election commissioner for sending me a ballot.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:54 | 6533495 metaStable
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Look at that brain! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the brain of our next president? I mean he is bald men in denial, and I am not s'posdta to diss my own kind, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 18:56 | 6533506 AlfredNeumann
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Bush was a moron.,  ever listen to Obama without his teleprompter?  a fucking imbecile.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:00 | 6533522 metaStable
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Are you suggesting that since we elected idiots in the past, we should instead of learning from our mistakes, keep on electing more idiots?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:22 | 6533533 AlfredNeumann
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EVeryone of the candidates is an idiot.   Because America is a NATION OF IDIOTS.

not all, but 90 percent are.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:00 | 6533521 MagicMoney
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I think it's pretty obvious Trump is not a libertarian. How is this a surprise exactly?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:01 | 6533526 AlfredNeumann
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I am continually amazed that people still play the game which is always fixed in the end.

I guess the same reason they like going to Vegas but always leave with long faces ,  very very few winners.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:08 | 6533552 BernankeHasHemo...
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Hey all your fucking moronic Trump voters. Here is your site: www.stormfront.org.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:11 | 6533559 American Psycho
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I think Trump was flustered that Gillespie was not wearing his black leather jacket. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:28 | 6533560 AlfredNeumann
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I would like to see someone ask him THIS on national live TV

Mr. Trump what do you think of Israel?

Trumps answer:  Well, Israel is a phony nation of lying, cheating, thieving, genocidal psychopaths. Not to mention leeches and parasites and if I am elected , I will immediately cut off all funds to Israel and arrest all AIPAC members.

OH, and one last thing I will do. is re open the 911 investigation and find out WHY much of the evidence leads to Israel.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:34 | 6533636 alphahammer
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You should just quit typing -- every keyboard stroke just solidifies your place as the class dunce.

Try and keep up Einstein, He has been asked many many times on TV about Israel... 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:38 | 6533656 AlfredNeumann
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Wipe off that kike cum dribbling down your chin, you pathetic faggot.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:42 | 6533660 Yen Cross
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 You've got the audacity to suggest that a person that's been posting on a web blog for 4-6 weeks should stop making comments?

 alphahammer. 1weeks 2 days. Dorm room genius. /s

 

 

 Zero Hedge is turning into a capophony of scared idiots looking for the truth!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:49 | 6533691 alphahammer
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Oh wow! He's been spouting off here for 4-6 whole weeks? Really? OMG!

BTW, if he's been an idiot for the entire time, then yea, he should quit posting. I suggested it as a favor because he yaps like a moron.

The idiot actually threatened America and Americans on another thread, then he said he worked on commercial airliners and then posted links to prove it! I shit you not! And you don't think he should shut up? I'm guessing the authorities who I notified today would actually like him to keep posting threats to America whilst bragging about working on commercial aiurliners. Do you have something to add to that? Do tell. I'm sure there are now some interested parties...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:57 | 6533722 Bay of Pigs
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Maybe go suck a bag of dicks instead of blathering on?

The Tylers have far bigger issues than paying attention to your whining and pointless complaints.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:58 | 6533724 SeekingNuNormal
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actually he's quite right, if it's taken you this long to find ZH, chances are you're an idiot

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:00 | 6533729 AlfredNeumann
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Haha, you have reading comprehension problems.    I flew for a VIP outfit .  not commercial you idiot.

Notice the interior of our aircraft?  NOT COMMERCIAL

I am retired since 2006.  What I said was before retiring I worked at Amsterdam airport and talked with cabin cleanup crew about where they would like to live and they said  HERE.

So, you see, you are a liar and I didn't threaten anyone .

Now fuck off, and take another look at these photos. Also see the one I took covertly at Sirte.   (you probably don't even know where that is).

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b7h6bqkvl46q7vj/AAD3yL68363n_qDF2qacfuXta?dl=0

Oh and our fine looking flight attendants were Russian.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:05 | 6533744 alphahammer
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No moron because I captured your links but didn't click on them. Nice try though. 

Yea sure, I'll click on your "links" like an Internet noob. That's pretty funny. But don't worry, I certainly forwarded them as clickable links to your soon to be introduced nightmare.

You are really an idiot. Do you realize what day it is tomorrow? Try 9/11. Guess what? US Law enforcement/intel is VERY keen to hear about terroristic threats to America via people associated with aircraft right about now. Trust me. They were...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:24 | 6534007 PN7
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AlfredNeumann: Your photos are quite nice.  That fellow in the red shirt and gray vest looks familiar.  (somehow this comment showed up as a reply to someone else's earlier post.)

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:51 | 6533698 Bay of Pigs
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I hear many of these trolls are getting paid time and a half for their OT here at ZH now.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:08 | 6533756 Yen Cross
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JFC, Bay of Pigs. The kid probably lost his internship at Blackstone, and daddy went subprime on the graduate degree.

   Now I see why you're so good at those bond charts you do for us.;-)

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:02 | 6533735 AlfredNeumann
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Haha, you have reading comprehension problems.    I flew for a VIP outfit .  not commercial you idiot.

Notice the interior of our aircraft?  NOT COMMERCIAL

I am retired since 2006.  What I said was before retiring I worked at Amsterdam airport and talked with cabin cleanup crew about where they would like to live and they said  HERE.

So, you see, you are a liar and I didn't threaten anyone .

Now fuck off, and take another look at these photos. Also see the one I took covertly at Sirte.   (you probably don't even know where that is).

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b7h6bqkvl46q7vj/AAD3yL68363n_qDF2qacfuXta?dl=0

Oh and our fine looking flight attendants were Russian.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:22 | 6533594 thatdudeisntme
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Somehow I don't think zerohedge dude is voting for trump

 

/shrug

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:24 | 6533601 AlfredNeumann
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`Tell me   do you really think he will be on the ballot on Nov 2016?

Someone will destroy him...  probably spread a rumour that he likes to fuck  little boys.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:31 | 6533624 alphahammer
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Why do you care? You are in some mud puddle country playing grab ass with guys from Morroco. You admitted as much just a few hours ago with links and everything.

BTW. I'm not sure how our Mr Durden is going to feel about entertaing the feds wanting to ask for data and questions about you. Perhaps he will let you know... Lol...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:34 | 6533640 AlfredNeumann
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hahaha,  you truly are fucktard.  Bring it , Bozo.  ROFLMAO

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:37 | 6533647 AlfredNeumann
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Mr. Durden is the same as Kaiser Sose.

Hey kid, just because YOU live in a police state doesn't mean I do.

Go waste your time with the CIAFBI  etc,   It wont' go anywhere.

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:42 | 6533670 alphahammer
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I see you're writing checks that your ass can't cash. We will see if Mr Durden AKA Sose wants to hand you to the feds. BTW I'm sure He will. 

Anytimje in the future that you want to get on a plane to go anywhere, you will sweat because you know you're flagged and will be pulled aside for further "questions" That is a fact. 

Now how about shouting another terroristic threat? If youy do it on more than two threads you get a bonus for building the case. You said to bring it. I did. Now threaten America or Americans again.  I dare you. Come on tough guy. Lets see it. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:49 | 6533693 AlfredNeumann
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Listen up punk.  The only place they have no fly list is the goddam Useless Snakes.  and last time I was there was in 2002 on business trip.  WE flew President of Benin to NYC for a UN conference.

PHOTOS here.   hurry and send to FEDS.  LOL

BTW, I am retired and have no desire to EVER go to the USA again.  So your littlle bullshit threats mean NOTHING.

OTOH,  why don't you come here and suck my dick, and while you are sucking it.. I get out my Louisville Slugger and take a huge swing on your head.  CLONK!!!!!!!!!!!  HOME RUN.    Then sit back and drink my beer as I watch the shit ooze out of your skull.

ROFLMAO

This one was taken in 2002 at JFK after we dropped off the President of Benin

https://www.dropbox.com/s/85axvbfjkrqi4l7/Aircraft%20%2854%29.JPG?dl=0

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:00 | 6533730 alphahammer
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Oh you had me at "listen up punk"... So spiritual yet menacing...

RE retired and going to the states. You don't think that US intel talks to other countries about suspected terrorists? You ARE dumber than I thought. That means your fligth from Amsterdam to Paris may run int a wee bit of law enforcement "curiosity"...

I like you best when you are really impressing everyone with your rapid fire sexual fantasies being thrown all over the place. How about some more? You can step it up and get really down with your bad self. Come on now you can do it... 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 22:08 | 6534206 Crocodile
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He seems to always talk about three things 1)F-ing 2) butts & 3) dicks...anyone care to connect the dots.  Take pity on him; he is lost in a very complex and evil world without any hope.

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 01:08 | 6534638 arrowrod
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In case you haven't noticed, all of the accusations have backfired.  It's getting so bad, that my newspapers opinion section, which normally has more than one view, is nothing but Trump hit pieces.  And Trump's poll numbers increase.

Remember the Ivana Trump "he raped me" story, how did that work out?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:28 | 6533611 alphahammer
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Yea because most of the "zerohedge dudes" are from Iran, Russia, Syria et al. They act like "really concerned Americans" bu in fact belong to foreign troll squads. Ergo, they can't vote...

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:30 | 6533619 AlfredNeumann
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Oh, its the fucktard back.   Hasbara troll

Go back to sucking your Daddys' cock, boy.  Momma wants to watch

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:37 | 6533651 alphahammer
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Oh look, Little Alfie is gonna cwy... Don't cwy little Alfie, people will still hate you. It's all going to work out. In prison...

BBBBWWWAAAHHHHAAA!!!!!!

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:39 | 6533662 AlfredNeumann
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Haha says the little dipshit that lives in the worlds biggest prison and doesn't even know it.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:47 | 6533680 Yen Cross
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 Alfred, [Dutchboy], you do realize you're talking to a pubescent child in a dorm room?

 The kid is a punk looking for attention. Ask him the price of lumber right now, on CME.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:03 | 6533943 Manipuflation
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+1 Yen  CME=Crappy Merchandise Exchange just to help the idiot out.  What about CBOT?  Cocksucking Bunch Of Trollops....?  OK, your turn.  Good point on the lumber.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 22:04 | 6534189 Yen Cross
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 @ Manipuflation.

   Okay, I'll go CBOT tomorrow.

 I'll only work with you, If you can, "without question" give me a fixed Iron Ore price.

 Don't even think you can trick me.

 BTW, you made me smile.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 22:56 | 6534368 Manipuflation
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Yen, are you implying that no one can figure out what the actual value of anything is?  You have my respect Yen. 

I do not have a solid iron ore price for you unless you mean Harley Iron.  I was out at the stealership yesterday to buy a few things and I made the mistake of bringing Mrs. M with.  $400 later and three hours later...I think I got off cheap since I didn't buy her a birthday present.  In that case, it is $40K+ for some of those bikes and will run you $10K for a used up something or other.  I have to admit that I am in love with Heritage Softail.  This one is 2013 in this short video.  There actually IS a motorcycle in the video if you look closely.  The stock exhaust on that bike, not her, has to go to the dumpster right away and that will cost a shit ton more even if you do it yourself.

I guess some people are not into the lifestyle but I am guessing that you Yen Cross could probably afford both of those women.  I give credit for marketing strategy.  I was not looking at her face but everything else looks right....  I would need to do some horse trading to afford that bike with no financing and the right pipes.  It means that I am not ready for that bike yet.

 

I am probably ready for some more PM's though.

 

Peace Brother.  

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 23:30 | 6534456 Yen Cross
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 Trade well my friend.

 I'm tired right now. I'll send some other links for you later. [iron related]

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 23:44 | 6534490 Manipuflation
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That sounds good Yen.  I think you have my latest email addy.  But if not let me know.  I want to trade on that Russian ruble situation but I would value some perspective.  Have a great night and best of luck on your trades.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:08 | 6533957 alphahammer
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So, I see our friend "Dutchboy2015" got hit with the ban hammer and crept back in under a new handle. Good to know. Thanks. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:43 | 6533671 AlfredNeumann
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I won't be going to any prison, little boy.   But you might be if caught fucking 3 year old boys.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:07 | 6533752 Dickweed Wang
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Ditto . . .

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:41 | 6533866 Buster Cherry
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Such brilliant pushback.

Put some real thinking into that , didn't you?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:07 | 6533951 Manipuflation
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I have a hanging chad on my ballot.  Now what?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:14 | 6533975 alphahammer
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I'm guessing that Mr Alfred E Neumann, distinguished citizen of the Netherlands and proud member of the party of cats and dogs will have an immediate therapy for you. Please don't wince if it involves some guy named Chad, your mother, three year old boys or baseball bats. He's troubled. Sunburned far too many times I'd say. Perhaps bathed too hot as a child is another explanation. 

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 04:30 | 6534844 Benjamin123
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Its the radiation. Theres radiation up there, the atmosphere shields us from it. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 22:11 | 6534225 Crocodile
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Ben Carson is the only person with integrity.  Trump will remove himself as in 2012 or be removed by "Murder Inc.".  You will get a choice between Bush or Clinton unless, by the mercy of God, we get Ben Carson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hxt7-wHZH8  (Listen carefully)

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:33 | 6533632 AlfredNeumann
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If voting made any difference they would ban it.

You know why election day is on Tuesdays in the USA?

Because that keeps the turnout down.

in most real democracies its on a Sunday when most people can vote.

They do NOT want a large turnout.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 19:54 | 6533708 nmewn
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"in most real democracies its on a Sunday when most people can vote."

Surely, you little weasel, you're not implying that the "Netherlands" is a demonocracy, are you?

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:00 | 6533728 Dickweed Wang
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Who gives a shit about Netherlands?  All that country is good for is weed/hash, heroin and hookers.  The guy's comment was about the USA and IMHO it was right on.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:05 | 6533743 AlfredNeumann
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weed,hash and hookers .  hahaha.  Most people only go amsterdam .  never visit the rest of the country.  Where I live , is protestant country and all stores are closed on Sunday and haven't seen any hookers, Muslims or weed .

Too bad Americans only go to Amsterdam which is a shithole 45 minutes from me and I haven't been there in 3 years.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 22:04 | 6534190 Crocodile
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Jesus will break you now or in the future.  How did the universe always exist as you stated?

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 01:32 | 6534679 AlfredNeumann
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Firefighters, Architects & Engineers Expose 9/11 Myths - Official Trailer Movie release date: September 11, 2015

Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3lPA5mayg

Fri, 09/11/2015 - 01:12 | 6534646 arrowrod
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Ain't it cold?  Really cold, and dark for six months.  With high suicide rates?  Am buying my ticket right now.  I can't stand warm balmy Florida, with it's low taxes.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:06 | 6533748 nmewn
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He tried to make some sort of fucking comparison not me sport.

The Netherlands is NOT a democracy and this country wasn't founded as a fucking democracy either. The Netherlands is a "kingdom".

The guy is a troll who has come back with another handle after getting wacked by Tyler. 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:08 | 6533758 AlfredNeumann
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Are you really that ignorant or are you just joking?

Well I voted here a few months ago.  paper ballots (we got rid of electronic voting ).  Fucking ballot was a mile long with abuout 10 parties and their candidates.  Wife told me to vote for animal rights party   so I did. LOL

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 21:52 | 6534137 Jam
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Aren't you considered a Refugee there in the Netherlands? Your vote probably doesn't count.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:10 | 6533762 AlfredNeumann
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You are another fucktard who believes in lots of myths.

Piss off MORON

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:17 | 6533787 alphahammer
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Good lord, look at those geniuses...circular firing squad... 

 

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:36 | 6533844 Buster Cherry
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Isn't it a Queendom?

At least it was when he starred in Cheech & Chong's last movie, where he played the flunky escort for the duo.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 22:03 | 6534183 Crocodile
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I do not think he is a troll; just a small boy in mom's basement; dad left a long time ago...we should pity him.

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:07 | 6533749 AlfredNeumann
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Well I voted here a few months ago.  paper ballots (we got rid of electronic voting ).  Fucking ballot was a mile long with abuout 10 parties and their candidates.  Wife told me to vote for animal rights party   so I did. LOL

Thu, 09/10/2015 - 20:38 | 6533853 nmewn
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lol...I rest my case, you don't even know who the Council of Ministers of the Kingdom are and you voted for the Dog & Cat Party to give "human rights" to animals?

I'm sure lions, tigers and bears (Oh my!) are amused at the prospect of antelopes, wildebeests and deer having a say in the whole affair but I doubt seriously it will have any effect on the outcome...lmao@U! 

 

 

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